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The declaration of regional powers (FT open declaration)

The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 20:15
A video holo letter to all nations in the galaxy, and sector:

Preamble:
We, the government and people of the Terran Federation in order preserve protect, the rights of governments, the independence of nations, and the economic sanctity of our region and sector of space, here by propose this declaration and bill of law entitled the declaration of regional powers act.

Body:

The United Terran Federation Hereby Reserves the right, to expel any foreign power, attempting to destabilize, invade or otherwise harm any nation with in our sector without probable cause. Any such action will warrant a response by the Terran Federation In the form of force, diplomatic pressure, or economic pressure. This also includes excessive colonization for the sheer purpose of malicious intent, establishment of heavy military presences in order to repress sector independence, or destabilize current stability, Or the positioning of WMD against nations with in the quadrant for the sheer reason to cause alarm internal strife, or harm to national integrity.


The United Terran Federation, desires is to see the neighboring nations stable, orderly, and prosperous, any nation with in the sector attempting to wage an unjust warrantless war against nations with in this part of space, may ultimately require intervention by our nation, to prevent long term damage to sector integrity order and economics, as well as to prevent chaotic disorder and war from spreading to neighboring powers. If the government is unable to request help or is destabilized to the point of anarchy, The United Terran Federation shall exercise this right of intervention, however the UTF shall not involve itself in national affairs of quadrant nation, when its orderly and stable government requests no help. However if that government is threatening integrity of trade, economics, or UTF national borders, it shall be subject to regime change.

The United Terran Federation, shall not tolerate any contracted pirates with hostile intent towards trade and economic assets of the quadrant, nor shall it tolerate any nation funding such organizations shall find themselves under stiff penalty of economic diplomatic and military pressure, any non contracted pirates, acting alone attacking civilian and military targets shall be sought out and destroyed by the UTF.
Pirates when contracted by allies may have the right to continue operations in a just and warranted war against enemy combatants.


Allies of powers with in this sector are exempt of these rules, unless they are doing so with mal intent, and attempting to exert imperialist goals upon the quadrant. The United Terran Federation has made this doctrine up, in order to preserve and protect the people of its quadrant, and to prevent powers of malicious intent from attempting to exploit or destroy the independent nations of this sector.

Signed:
President Maxwell Odeassa, the senate of the Terran Federation. And secrtary of state bester kayborn
The Steppe Empire
03-04-2008, 20:57
From The Great Throne of The Great Khan of The Hyperborian Empire, Khan Alexandria.

We REFUSE to bow down to the wishes of a Mad man. Your nation is thinking Great Thoughts that only The Gods should have.

Therefore We declare a Travel Ban and a Embargo against The United Terran Federation. we will not go to War unless attack, and We will use Diplomatic ways to stop this Madness that you have started.
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 21:18
The Terran Federation would like to remind your nation, that we do not concern ourselves with your saber rattling, and we only wish to preserve the independence, of countries with in our sector to do what they want when they want.
The Steppe Empire
03-04-2008, 21:33
The Terran Federation would like to remind your nation, that we do not concern ourselves with your saber rattling, and we only wish to preserve the independence, of countries with in our sector to do what they want when they want.

On The Planet known as Earth, a People called the Romans said the same thing, only to enslave them and other nations Outside their Territories. You are not like the old Earth Nation of America, you are not all Powerful.

We are Fortifying our Boarders and Patroling them. If any of your Ships near us, they will be blasted out of space.

we do not seek war, and we shall not start this one.
Sharfghotten
03-04-2008, 21:34
From the department of forgien diplomacy

We refuse to listen to this drivel. before you begin making demands of he entire galaxy, consider the implications of your foolishness.

Sharfghotten has had its fair share of war. We do not hesitate to create another with you if you continue with your warmongering.
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 21:40
Response:

Warmongering? Your nation apparently sees what it wants to, my country is simply preserving the rights of its quadrants people and sectors nations, it does not demand the entire galaxy to fall under this doctrine, only a small iota of it , the UTF and its bordering nations fall under this, and you perhaps have gone mad as to think your nation would declare war against the UTF, and not suffer great peril for a political and military folly such as that.
Uiri
03-04-2008, 21:41
S/d w/ ;/| :mg'mw g/ 'mv/jx' gs:h w'xp\j\g:/m?
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 21:48
(ooc: what the hell?)
Neo Kirisubo
03-04-2008, 21:48
Prime minister Kayabuki and the Empress Fujiko had a conference about this matter at the Imperial palace.

The Neo Kirisuban's actually resided in a Federal Union star system and certainly wanted to keep their neutrality and independance.

The Empress didn't see anything to worry her in the Presidents statement as they had close links already and certainly had no plans to invade other planets.

They also had other more pressing matters to deal with such as the Alliance of Imitated Worlds sudden interest in them. Having the Terran Federation round them was no guarantee of safety even with the powerful fleets their neighbour and ally had.
CoreWorlds
03-04-2008, 21:50
The High Council wishes to respectfully inform the Terran Federation that their saber-rattling may do nothing but make other nations laugh and ignore the directives as you are not as respected as you used to be. It appears to us that you intend to stomp on anyone you don't like and keep them from colonizing the Alpha Quadrant of the Milky Way.

P.S. This is in no way a scolding. It is merely an observation, from one Rebel to another.

P.P.S. You might want to make things clearer for all informed so that there's no misunderstanding from the younger nations.

P.P.P.S. Thanks for the cargo ships! :D
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 21:52
We shall take your advice in to consideration and perhaps make the provisions somewhat clearer to prevent, misunderstanding, if you read some of the lines within the provisions, we would need probable cause, reason and permissions to some extent to do most of the things declared.
Sharfghotten
03-04-2008, 22:00
Response:

Warmongering? Your nation apparently sees what it wants to, my country is simply preserving the rights of its quadrants people and sectors nations, it does not demand the entire galaxy to fall under this doctrine, only a small iota of it , the UTF and its bordering nations fall under this, and you perhaps have gone mad as to think your nation would declare war against the UTF, and not suffer great peril for a political and military folly such as that.

Whatever fancy words you use, the fact remains that if any of your military forces approach any of our territory, it will be instantly destroyed. Your saber-rattling has driven us to this, and believe us, we will carry out action. You will be surprised how many people join me if you attempt a counterattack.
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 22:03
You mean none? Seeing as the wording does not provide any hostile intent, only intent help and protect, your words mean nothing, it only shows political folly, and unwillingness to cooperate. I highly doubt your nation has the capacity to go to war against the UTF especially for such lacking reasons.
Telros
03-04-2008, 22:04
Anonymous Message. Source....Unknown

Well, what do we have here? Another pathetic democracy trying to enforce its "morality" on the stars? Pah, how pathetic. You fools know nothing of the realities of space, of relations between races, of how life goes on. You do not seek peace, you only seek to be the big guy pushing everyone around and making everyone indebted to you. Easier to manipulate, easier to control. Know this, if you ever dare to try and extend your pathetic "authority" into our domain of affairs, you will rue the day you had been born and had ever thought of such a sorry scrap of paper and false ideals.

For we do not take war lightly. If you seek to intervene in our affairs and attack us, we will see to it that the Terran Federation no longer exists.

Connection ended....Signal lost.
Sharfghotten
03-04-2008, 22:06
You mean none? Seeing as the wording does not provide any hostile intent, only intent help and protect, your words mean nothing, it only shows political folly, and unwillingness to cooperate. I highly doubt your nation has the capacity to go to war against the UTF especially for such lacking reasons.

the wording provides PLENTY of hostile intent. This nation was raised on war, please do not serve to further provoke. Our resources are widespread, our government spends an incredible sum of money on the armed forces. Intent to help and protect? surely it is preferable for a country to help and protect themselves?
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 22:09
A response was quickly tendered:

You dare not test, your theory on democratic governments? For the true folly lies within those who under estimate nations, its ashamed however, that many nations refuse to see the true goal of this, but they choose what they believe, we shall stick to our position to enforce the independence of nations with in this sector as humanity and humanoid entities , has as natural birth right to govern themselves any way they wish , free of outside influence. At any rate we wish to see you try and enforce your threat against the UTF. It would be amusing to say the least.
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 22:11
the wording provides PLENTY of hostile intent. This nation was raised on war, please do not serve to further provoke. Our resources are widespread, our government spends an incredible sum of money on the armed forces. Intent to help and protect? surely it is preferable for a country to help and protect themselves?


Simply put your nation attempts to violate sovereign territories with in this sphere of protection, without a viable reason or attack UTF assets , your government will no longer be the same.
Sharfghotten
03-04-2008, 22:12
A response was quickly tendered:

You dare not test, your theory on democratic governments? For the true folly lies within those who under estimate nations, its ashamed however, that many nations refuse to see the true goal of this, but they choose what they believe, we shall stick to our position to enforce the independence of nations with in this sector as humanity and humanoid entities , has as natural birth right to govern themselves any way they wish , free of outside influence. At any rate we wish to see you try and enforce your threat against the UTF. It would be amusing to say the least.

We have no interests in humane behaviour. Human rights of the enemy are irrelevant. Do not provoke us, and subject your troops to flesh eating virus bombs, planet destroying laser cannons, and the like.
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 22:20
We have no interest in what you do out in the Milky Way, do not test our resolve however by presuming we would let your fleet conduct unjustified military operations within our quadrant.
Sharfghotten
03-04-2008, 22:23
Out of curiosity, i would like to know your military strength.
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 22:26
(OOC: 1600 ships, 191 million people in my armed forces. out of those 1600 very high quality ships, I only have 600 capital ships and 1000 escorts)
Sharfghotten
03-04-2008, 22:32
(OOC: 1600 ships, 191 million people in my armed forces. out of those 1600 very high quality ships, I only have 600 capital ships and 1000 escorts)

I see. I have a stronger manpower, with around 400 million troops. I have 450 capital ships of varying classes, 50 superdestroyer ships (capable of planetary destruction), and 500 varying cruisers, frigates etc.
Uiri
03-04-2008, 22:35
(ooc: what the hell?)

(OOC: it is an ic message. Try and crack the code, lol)
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 22:39
(OOC: then your economically invalid your using 8.28 % of your pop as military, and god knows SSD’s aren’t fucking cheap, with the quality quantity rule one of my ships can take one a lot more of yours. if you still want to fight, you seem to want to be my guess but I doubt you'll come out the same way you are, I wont play the numbers game)
Sharfghotten
03-04-2008, 22:44
(OOC: then your economically invalid your using 8.28 % of your pop as military, and god knows SSD’s aren’t fucking cheap, with the quality quantity rule one of my ships can take one a lot more of yours. if you still want to fight, you seem to want to be my guess but I doubt you'll come out the same way you are, I wont play the numbers game)

A previous leader decided that our economy was best spent on military power, believing that with all the power we would gain conquering others, the money would return to us.

before we launched a galactic crusade the man died of heart failure, and we believed demobilizing all those troops would be a waste. So instead they are ready for war at all times whilst the economy is rebuilt.

I would liek to try my hand at an engagement, the worst that could happen is loss of life and equipment. And that we have in surplus.
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 22:49
(ooc: heh sure go for it, but considering no way in hell a nation even in FT could pull that off, keeping more than 8 % of their pop mobilized in a military…)
CoreWorlds
03-04-2008, 22:51
I see. I have a stronger manpower, with around 400 million troops. I have 450 capital ships of varying classes, 150 superdestroyer ships (capable of planetary destruction), and 500 varying cruisers, frigates etc.
OOC: A little on the wank side if you ask me, at least for the 150 superdestroyers (which I assume are similar in scale and firepower to the Super Star Destroyer). You shouldn't have more than one of those ships for every 100 ships or so. Still, I look forward to testing you in combat.

IC:

To the nation of Sharfghotten:

Let it be known that if you seek to attack the Terran Federation, the Imperial Republic will be more than happy to send reinforcements to deal with your foolish incursion. If you don't wish to feel the might of our Battlestars, Star Destroyers and assorted fleet-killing ships, then you'll do well to do nothing of the sort.
Sharfghotten
03-04-2008, 22:53
(ooc: heh sure go for it, but considering no way in hell a nation even in FT could pull that off, keeping more than 8 % of their pop mobilized in a military…)

(OOC: This nation is overtly exaggerated. most of our military spends their time on board ships, to allow for fast mobilisation ;))
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 22:58
The Terran Federaiton shall respond to any threat with equal force that that threat poses.
Sharfghotten
03-04-2008, 22:59
OOC: A little on the wank side if you ask me, at least for the 150 superdestroyers (which I assume are similar in scale and firepower to the Super Star Destroyer). You shouldn't have more than one of those ships for every 100 ships or so. Still, I look forward to testing you in combat.

IC:

To the nation of Sharfghotten:

Let it be known that if you seek to attack the Terran Federation, the Imperial Republic will be more than happy to send reinforcements to deal with your foolish incursion. If you don't wish to feel the might of our Battlestars, Star Destroyers and assorted fleet-killing ships, then you'll do well to do nothing of the sort.

OOC: *edited for reasons of retardedness*

IC: I will be back with an ally. If you truly wish to intervene, I cannot stop you.
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 23:07
ally what ally?)
Sharfghotten
03-04-2008, 23:09
ally what ally?)

Coreworlds says he's going to assist you, so it's only fair if we bring someone along.
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 23:32
It seemed for some odd reason things were coming to a boil, nations who should be grateful wanted blood, however the UTF was confident in itself that it could win over any conflict thrown its way the government and the people were looking at the event as sort of a wakeup call of the volatility of inter stellar diplomacy.
Sharfghotten
03-04-2008, 23:36
It seemed for some odd reason things were coming to a boil, nations who should be grateful wanted blood, however the UTF was confident in itself that it could win over any conflict thrown its way the government and the people were looking at the event as sort of a wakeup call of the volatility of inter stellar diplomacy.

Our nation is not afraid of training its troops. Please, clarify your above statement. We will continue this.
The Fedral Union
03-04-2008, 23:38
(ooc that was an ic thought no message to your nation Im just waiting for your post, I have to go to class soon so when you post TG it to me)
CoreWorlds
04-04-2008, 00:42
Coreworlds says he's going to assist you, so it's only fair if we bring someone along.
I'd say that it's better not to throw allies willy-nilly around, otherwise it just becomes a numbers game that detracts from the story. The important thing, win or lose, is how you play the game. Besides, it's not like I would send my entire fleet at you. Just a task force at best, no more.
Hyperspatial Travel
04-04-2008, 01:15
We would like to take the time to note that, regardless of this declaration, the Union has simply stated it will be acting in the way all other nations act. That it has reserved some "right" to interfere with the affairs of other sovereign nations is no more than any nation does, or has done.

It is noted, however, that this "right" is enforced only by the fleets of the Union. If the strength of your fleets fail, do not expect the universe to rearrange the very stars in order to recognize your morality.

- Mallus Exaionae, Emperor of the Realm
The Steppe Empire
04-04-2008, 18:16
Some Planet in The Alpha Qraudrut.

a Simbal-sui, a Hyperborian Scout Craft, was near The Planet takeing reading for a good area for something they were doing;

a Colony in The Alpha.

The Hyperborians wer still expanding their Empire, and Colonizeing worlds were Part of The Expandion of The Hyperborian Star Empire. The Empire saw this Colony as the start of Expanding out of The Qraudrat it was in and into new Space.

and This was also a Protest against The Union's declaration.

They wanted no one Colonizeing The Alpha, they thought wrong. The Hyperborians would Colonize the Alpha and make it part of The Empire.

The Scout Craft finished the Readings and left, The Planet was good for Hyperborian Living.
Anagonia
04-04-2008, 18:55
Open Message from the Galactic Federation Congress
In response to the sector declaration

Our friends of the Terran Federation,

While it is just and lawful for you to orderly protect your borders, the Galactic Congress of the Federation hereby states that it does not need your "babysitting" to properly defend itself, nor its interests. Whether or not we engage in wars should be our own business, and so long as those wars do not inflict upon your Sovereignty, we see no reason for you to openly declare your intentions to oversee our actions. We respectfully submit to you to mind your own business.

We do not seek hostile relations, nor do we seek hostile intent. However, we will not have a Foreign Power dictate to us what is right and what is wrong. Only our People can decide that, with the assistance of their respected Elected Officials and Leaders to voice their opinions to the Congress and Office of the Presidency. While we understand we are in the same alliance of the Interstellar Trade Federation, and you are allowed to enter our borders with a military presence, you are not allowed on the basis of compromising our Sovereign Authority.

Be reminded of this, and our diplomatic and political relations will go a long way. Stray from this, and the starting of a Cold War between our two governments could be in the future.

As always, you are welcome into our Borders, as is your people. But do not, under any circumstances, seek to dictate our way of life. This is our open declaration, and warning, to you. While we respect you, we do not see you as competent enough to lead our People as only they can lead themselves. Please take note of this in future declarations.

Yours truly,
The Galactic Congress of the United Federation
Represented by Chief of the Federal Congress

Message End

OOC:

No, I'm not poking anything. This is purely an IC response.
Otagia
04-04-2008, 23:18
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The Regency stands by the Terran Federation in it's declaration. Such action can only serve as a stabilizing factor in the region, and should be considered an admirable cause. Therefore, the Regency has set aside the Asher battle group as a gesture of good faith, and to assist in protecting economic interests in the quadrant.QUETZAL
Regent Absentia of Otagia