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The Mandalorian Task Force sailed due east, past the newly captured island of Great Britain. The turnover of the island from Neo-Ixanian territory to joint Grestonian-Maldorian territory had been a simple one. Yet, lust for more riches urged the Mandalorian war machine to press forward. Dark Admiral Raoul ordered a few military sorties, to learn of the enemy defensive positions.

"Everything is going as planned. A Leasathian fleet is going to invade from the south of Russia; we will take the north. Hopefully, Grestonian forces will assist in our push. By the time their allies arrive, we should have most of the major coastal cities under our control" Sub Admiral Mahmoud debriefed the patient Dark Admiral, who was now slowly pulling out a cigar.

"Continue, Admiral, what is the enemy strength?"

"Well, we are not 100% sure, yet our forces have the superiority. Although we will be making an amphibious assault, the Neo-Ixanians will be faced with two fronts. It will be a killer for them, sir."

"Excellent, give them one last chance to reconsider their actions."

"Yes, sir."


Heavily Encrypted Message to Neo-Ixania

This is your FINAL warning. Our fleet sails, and none of your allies will reach our fleet quick enough. If you wish to preserve some of Russia for Neo-Ixanian land, we can negiotiate. However, time is of essence. If we do not receive a response within one [1] hour, military operations will commence.

Allahu Ackbar.

~Dark Admiral Raoul.
-9th Mandalorian Task Force.
-Mandalorian Naval Command.

OOC: Let's post our Orders of Battle. I'll get my up next post.


THIS IS THE OOC THREAD NOW

OOC: For strategic reasons and for minor details, what season is it? I'm going on the assumption is summer: it's prime campaigning season. Please say so if I am wrong. Keep in mind harsh Russian weather and terrain conditions, no matter what the season. I'll post my order of battle ASAP. Just in case anyone doesn't know at this point, I'm on Ixania's side.

IC:
Field Marshal Hallestatd was pacing in the Russian grassland, wondering why he had been picked for this job. He was in the middle of freakin' nowhere, defending a colony of a foreign country, a colony that was, no less, in a place he had never heard of.

He hadn't seen this much mud anywhere. Even Aglaland (ooc: a neighboring country to Ottonia) wasn't this bad in the summer, and that place got pretty damn icy in the winters. Where does all this shit come from? he pondered.

His men were digging into the muddy turf, constructing trenches, artillary and AA gun positions, preparing to make assaulting the positions a nightmare. He would be relying on the Ixanian Airforce for airsupport; the Imperial Air Corps was in a bad enough shape without having its forces on foreign deployment. The new M-5B Grizzly Bear tanks were very heavy, and were significantly slowed by the mud. He could see why the Feldarians had developed the M-3B Coyote for their own and ILA use: it was much lighter and was having fewer problems in the mud.

Machine gun positions were being put up, as were mortars. The treaded versions of the army's rocket artillary were faring quite well; switching out the wheels had been a good choice.

Soldiers were complaining quite a bit. These were pretty crappy conditions.

A Commander(Major) in the armoured units approached him. "Sir, our Grizzly's are having a hard time moving in these conditions, sir. What should we do with 'em?"

The Field Marshal had been promoted to his position because of his problem solving skills. It was his forte. "Stick 'em at regular locations along the trenches; we can move 'em when it dries up, and until then it'll be suicide attacking the trenches."

"Yessir. How about the Coyotes?"

"Keep them in reserve, at central locations behind the lines; I want them ready to be rushed to any spot to provide extra firepower." He paused. "Also, have the means to pull the men back if necessary."

"Absolutely, sir."

The fortification process was going well. Attacking from the south would be a nightmare. Any attack from the Black Sea or Georgia would be difficult, to say the least. This would be interesting.

Nirvana, Federal District of Nirvana, Jayate - 10:00 AM Jayate Standard Time

Caeser Victor Octavian scratched his head. Only a few days after overthrowing the former President, and now he entered his country into a war. He was prepared, however, to win this war "for the sake of the innocents" as he had said in his nation-wide address regarding the war.

The Minister of Defense (Minister Iqbal Keyes) and the Minister of Urban Development (Minister Lawrence Ghablib) entered the Hall of Presidents - the official residence and workplace of the Caeser which was located in the capital, Nirvana.

"Sir!" said the two Ministers at once, and they saluted.

"Sit down" responded the Caeser as he returned their salutes. "We have to talk about this war. We must prepare, and we must defend our colonies"

Defense Minister Keyes spoke up; "Sir! We could have the Jayatian Guard defend our lands. Furthermore, we can have the settlements we have created so far turned into military bases and used as centers of operation"

Urban Development Minister Ghalib added; "Sir, I wholeheartedly agree with Minister Keyes. Also, we should hold off on sending Jayatian citizens to the colonies until the war is over"

"Yes, yes, I agree" responded the Caeser. "That is a good plan, Keyes. What do you suggest regarding the amount military we send?"

Minister Keyes thought for a moment, and then responded. "Well, sir, we could send another Brigade of Jayatian Guards for the Polish Territory. The Czechoslovak Territory is inland, and the enemy would have to cut through a sovereign, neutral nation or through our Polish Territory to reach it. Therefore, I suggest sending another Brigade of Jayatian Guards to the Ukrainian Territory and have them guard there. Keep General Jacobs in command of the Jayatian Guard Brigade in the Belorussian Territory"

"Hmm...Sounds logical. hat leaves us with 1 Brigade to defend the Jayatian Motherland, correct?"

"Yes sir" responded Minister Keyes. "However, we can also depend on the whole continent of Asia should the Motherland be attacked"

"And the attacking force?" asked the Caeser.

"Sir! I have a perfect plan for that"

Black Sea:

The Adnan fleet sailed closer and closer to the coastline of Ixanian-controlled Russia. The Leasathi fleet Admiral Hussein Johawar was reading a little on a record of the Erusean invasion of Route1, a very successful beachhead was established from it. He hoped to learn more on the Erusean tactics which had worked for them so well in that war. Intelligence had reported however that Neo-Ixania had recieved new shipments of military supplies from other Leasathi allies including Imperial Isa and Erusea. Why on Earth are our allies helping the enemy for. They must not know of our intentions.

The Adnan fleet moved forward through the Black Sea, and as he approached the coastline he had been notified that the fleet had come with one hundred kilometers from the shore.

"Launch our fighters," ordered the Admiral, "and prepare all of the troops for landing."

"Yessir!" replied his men.

On the deck of the two carriers, activity was bustling as MiG-29K Fulcrums took off from the Kuznetsov-class ships. Other ships had already began to fire missiles at the coastline targeting large buildings and anything that looks like it could make an effective garrison. Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters took off from several landing carriers made their way towards the coast to support the ground forces. Mi-8 Hips also took off carrying Republican Guard troopers from the Medina division to fastrope on the beach behind enemy lines. Yedinorog-class landing carriers launched their ZUBR hovercrafts which then made their way towards the beach. On board were Leasath's Medina, Nida, Hammurabi, and Nebuchadnezzer divisions. These shock troops would take the beach and establish a beachead for reinforcements to arrive.

Onboard the ZUBR, a platoon form the Nida division readied for the battle ahead.

"Okay men, this is it. Estimated time to departure is T-Minus one 10 minutes," said Sergeant Jahrid. He grabbed his AK-47 rifles and felt the extra magazines that were pocketed in his chest. The hard ceramic tin armor he wore was underneath. It would provide little real protection, perhaps taking a bullet or two, but still, it was better than nothing. "When we hit the beach," continued Jahrid, "there will be no time to kiss the ground. Get your rifle and start shooting! Is that understood?"

"Yes sir!" came the unanimous reply.

Private First-Class Khalid Al-Abraha gripped his RPG-7 launcher tightly, and had two RPG-7 warheads strapped on his back. He looked around at the other men carrying various weaponry, AK-47's, G3's, RPG-7's, RPG-29's, Dragunov sniper rifles, and a few AK-74U sub machine guns. The hovercraft moved onwards quickly at a steady pace, and moved towards the beach. Above them were the Mi-8 Hip helicopters which were to fly into Neo-Ixania's Russia low and fast, to move into the city to cause havoc for Ixanian forces...

Back at Babylon Air Force Base in Leasath, long range strategic bombers, the Tu-22M2 variant, began take off checks to head towards Ixanian Russia to begin bombing campaigns there. The fleet itself was going to launch it's landing forces as soon as it could clear any opposing naval power and threatening shore defenses.

OOC: Current map:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Link557/europe6.jpg

Black Sea:

The Adnan fleet sailed closer and closer to the coastline of Ixanian-controlled Russia. The Leasathi fleet Admiral Hussein Johawar was reading a little on a record of the Erusean invasion of Route1, a very successful beachhead was established from it. He hoped to learn more on the Erusean tactics which had worked for them so well in that war. Intelligence had reported however that Neo-Ixania had recieved new shipments of military supplies from other Leasathi allies including Imperial Isa and Erusea. Why on Earth are our allies helping the enemy for. They must not know of our intentions.

The Adnan fleet moved forward through the Black Sea, and as he approached the coastline he had been notified that the fleet had come with thirty kilometers from the shore.

"Launch our fighters," ordered the Admiral, "and prepare all of the troops for landing."

"Yessir!" replied his men.

On the deck of the two carriers, activity was bustling as MiG-29K Fulcrums took off from the Kuznetsov-class ships. Other ships had already began to fire missiles at the coastline targeting large buildings and anything that looks like it could make an effective garrison. Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters took off from several landing carriers made their way towards the coast to support the ground forces. Mi-8 Hips also took off carrying Republican Guard troopers from the Medina division to fastrope on the beach behind enemy lines. Yedinorog-class landing carriers launched their ZUBR hovercrafts which then made their way towards the beach. On board were Leasath's Medina, Nida, Hammurabi, and Nebuchadnezzer divisions. These shock troops would take the beach and establish a beachead for reinforcements to arrive.

Onboard the ZUBR, a platoon form the Nida division readied for the battle ahead.

"Okay men, this is it. Estimated time to arrival is T-Minus one 1 minute," said Sergeant Jahrid. He grabbed his AK-47 rifles and felt the extra magazines that were pocketed in his chest. The hard ceramic tin armor he wore was underneath. It would provide little real protection, perhaps taking a bullet or two, but still, it was better than nothing. "When we hit the beach," continued Jahrid, "there will be no time to kiss the ground. Get your rifle and start shooting! Is that understood?"

"Yes sir!" came the unanimous reply.

Private First-Class Khalid Al-Abraha gripped his RPG-7 launcher tightly, and had two RPG-7 warheads strapped on his back. He looked around at the other men carrying various weaponry, AK-47's, G3's, RPG-7's, RPG-29's, Dragunov sniper rifles, and a few AK-74U sub machine guns. The hovercraft moved onwards quickly at a steady pace, and moved towards the beach. Above them were the Mi-8 Hip helicopters which flew in low and fast, and moved in to land its soldiers in the city to cause havoc for Ixanian forces...

The ZUBR's hit the beach and unloaded its fighting forces quickly. The 30mm guns on top of the hovercrafts would provide supporting fire to the landing forces. The Hammurabi and Nida divisions had their T-72 tanks which moved from the hovercrafts onto the land, into the cold weather outside. Leasath would keep its forces as far south as they can in Russia, in the oil fields, the main priority of the operation. The light and nimble T-72 tanks were suited for winter conditions and they had powerful 125mm guns and good armor as well. BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles and BTR-80 armored personnel carriers hit the beach as well, being amphibious they did not land via hovercraft. Mi-24 Hinds flew overhead and so did the Mi-8 Hips at very low altitude while MiG-29's flew much higher up.

Back at Babylon Air Force Base in Leasath, long range strategic bombers, the Tu-22M2 variant, began take off checks to head towards Ixanian Russia to begin bombing campaigns there.

OOC: in war RP's, it is usually advisable to give details regarding the numbers and makeup of your forces when conducting an attack.

OOC: in war RP's, it is usually advisable to give details regarding the numbers and makeup of your forces when conducting an attack.

OOC: I know how to RP, and I RP stories not the "500 A-10's, 200 F-22s, and 400 M1 tanks attack your city... Muahahahah"

But thank you anyways

Black Sea:

The Adnan fleet sailed closer and closer to the coastline of Ixanian-controlled Russia. The Leasathi fleet Admiral Hussein Johawar was reading a little on a record of the Erusean invasion of Route1, a very successful beachhead was established from it. He hoped to learn more on the Erusean tactics which had worked for them so well in that war. Intelligence had reported however that Neo-Ixania had recieved new shipments of military supplies from other Leasathi allies including Imperial Isa and Erusea. Why on Earth are our allies helping the enemy for. They must not know of our intentions.

The Adnan fleet moved forward through the Black Sea, and as he approached the coastline he had been notified that the fleet had come with thirty kilometers from the shore.

"Launch our fighters," ordered the Admiral, "and prepare all of the troops for landing."

"Yessir!" replied his men.

On the deck of the two carriers, activity was bustling as MiG-29K Fulcrums took off from the Kuznetsov-class ships. Other ships had already began to fire missiles at the coastline targeting large buildings and anything that looks like it could make an effective garrison. Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters took off from several landing carriers made their way towards the coast to support the ground forces. Mi-8 Hips also took off carrying Republican Guard troopers from the Medina division to fastrope on the beach behind enemy lines. Yedinorog-class landing carriers launched their ZUBR hovercrafts which then made their way towards the beach. On board were Leasath's Medina, Nida, Hammurabi, and Nebuchadnezzer divisions. These shock troops would take the beach and establish a beachead for reinforcements to arrive.

Onboard the ZUBR, a platoon form the Nida division readied for the battle ahead.

"Okay men, this is it. Estimated time to arrival is T-Minus one 1 minute," said Sergeant Jahrid. He grabbed his AK-47 rifles and felt the extra magazines that were pocketed in his chest. The hard ceramic tin armor he wore was underneath. It would provide little real protection, perhaps taking a bullet or two, but still, it was better than nothing. "When we hit the beach," continued Jahrid, "there will be no time to kiss the ground. Get your rifle and start shooting! Is that understood?"

"Yes sir!" came the unanimous reply.

Private First-Class Khalid Al-Abraha gripped his RPG-7 launcher tightly, and had two RPG-7 warheads strapped on his back. He looked around at the other men carrying various weaponry, AK-47's, G3's, RPG-7's, RPG-29's, Dragunov sniper rifles, and a few AK-74U sub machine guns. The hovercraft moved onwards quickly at a steady pace, and moved towards the beach. Above them were the Mi-8 Hip helicopters which flew in low and fast, and moved in to land its soldiers in the city to cause havoc for Ixanian forces...

The ZUBR's hit the beach and unloaded its fighting forces quickly. The 30mm guns on top of the hovercrafts would provide supporting fire to the landing forces. The Hammurabi and Nida divisions had their T-72 tanks which moved from the hovercrafts onto the land, into the cold weather outside. Leasath would keep its forces as far south as they can in Russia, in the oil fields, the main priority of the operation. The light and nimble T-72 tanks were suited for winter conditions and they had powerful 125mm guns and good armor as well. BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles and BTR-80 armored personnel carriers hit the beach as well, being amphibious they did not land via hovercraft. Mi-24 Hinds flew overhead and so did the Mi-8 Hips at very low altitude while MiG-29's flew much higher up.

Back at Babylon Air Force Base in Leasath, long range strategic bombers, the Tu-22M2 variant, began take off checks to head towards Ixanian Russia to begin bombing campaigns there.

OOC: in war RP's, it is usually advisable to give details regarding the numbers and makeup of your forces when conducting an attack.

OOC: Personally I'm curious how did such a fleet get past the Bosphorus so easily. Of course, we haven't even heard from Caprilusa who holds said passage, so... :rolleyes: Post coming up later.

Black Sea:

The Adnan fleet sailed closer and closer to the coastline of Ixanian-controlled Russia. The Leasathi fleet Admiral Hussein Johawar was reading a little on a record of the Erusean invasion of Route1, a very successful beachhead was established from it. He hoped to learn more on the Erusean tactics which had worked for them so well in that war. Intelligence had reported however that Neo-Ixania had recieved new shipments of military supplies from other Leasathi allies including Imperial Isa and Erusea. Why on Earth are our allies helping the enemy for. They must not know of our intentions.

The Adnan fleet moved forward through the Black Sea, and as he approached the coastline he had been notified that the fleet had come with thirty kilometers from the shore.

"Launch our fighters," ordered the Admiral, "and prepare all of the troops for landing."

"Yessir!" replied his men.

On the deck of the two carriers, activity was bustling as MiG-29K Fulcrums took off from the Kuznetsov-class ships. Other ships had already began to fire missiles at the coastline targeting large buildings and anything that looks like it could make an effective garrison. Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters took off from several landing carriers made their way towards the coast to support the ground forces. Mi-8 Hips also took off carrying Republican Guard troopers from the Medina division to fastrope on the beach behind enemy lines. Yedinorog-class landing carriers launched their ZUBR hovercrafts which then made their way towards the beach. On board were Leasath's Medina, Nida, Hammurabi, and Nebuchadnezzer divisions. These shock troops would take the beach and establish a beachead for reinforcements to arrive.

Onboard the ZUBR, a platoon form the Nida division readied for the battle ahead.

"Okay men, this is it. Estimated time to arrival is T-Minus one 1 minute," said Sergeant Jahrid. He grabbed his AK-47 rifles and felt the extra magazines that were pocketed in his chest. The hard ceramic tin armor he wore was underneath. It would provide little real protection, perhaps taking a bullet or two, but still, it was better than nothing. "When we hit the beach," continued Jahrid, "there will be no time to kiss the ground. Get your rifle and start shooting! Is that understood?"

"Yes sir!" came the unanimous reply.

Private First-Class Khalid Al-Abraha gripped his RPG-7 launcher tightly, and had two RPG-7 warheads strapped on his back. He looked around at the other men carrying various weaponry, AK-47's, G3's, RPG-7's, RPG-29's, Dragunov sniper rifles, and a few AK-74U sub machine guns. The hovercraft moved onwards quickly at a steady pace, and moved towards the beach. Above them were the Mi-8 Hip helicopters which flew in low and fast, and moved in to land its soldiers in the city to cause havoc for Ixanian forces...

The ZUBR's hit the beach and unloaded its fighting forces quickly. The 30mm guns on top of the hovercrafts would provide supporting fire to the landing forces. The Hammurabi and Nida divisions had their T-72 tanks which moved from the hovercrafts onto the land, into the cold weather outside. Leasath would keep its forces as far south as they can in Russia, in the oil fields, the main priority of the operation. The light and nimble T-72 tanks were suited for winter conditions and they had powerful 125mm guns and good armor as well. BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles and BTR-80 armored personnel carriers hit the beach as well, being amphibious they did not land via hovercraft. Mi-24 Hinds flew overhead and so did the Mi-8 Hips at very low altitude while MiG-29's flew much higher up.

Back at Babylon Air Force Base in Leasath, long range strategic bombers, the Tu-22M2 variant, began take off checks to head towards Ixanian Russia to begin bombing campaigns there.

OOC: First post in and you are already god modding.

You Did Not:
1) Allow N-I to RP picking up your ships on radar. Believe it or not, N-I's defenses aren't blind.
2) Allow N-I to RP any naval action. You assume that N-I allows your ships right up to his/her coast. You skip over naval patrols, battle groups, submarines, and random civilian boats.

You Did:
3)Get as close as thirty kilometers from shore. Shore guns have a range of 60km, and cruise missiles, such as the tomahawk, can go up to 2,500km. A real military has air patrols, naval patrols, hydrophones, and all sorts of things that allow them to detect incoming fleets.

Also, this is just a personal gripe, but neither of you assumed that N-I called in allied fleets when this mess first started. If you can get fleets there, why can't N-I's allies?

Also, Lord Sumguy is totally correct. You really ought to give numbers and details about your troops.

Army of Umberphallia
Acting as Auxiliary Allied Army for Ixanian Colonial Forces

Commanding Officer: Field Marshal Frederick Hallestatd
Second-in-Command: Major General Alenic Weyser

Infantry (180,000 men):
All unit strengths are full.

XXXI Corps (151st-155th Legions) (30,000 men)

XXXII Corps (156th-160th Legions) (30,000 men)

XXXIII Corps (161st-165th Legions) (30,000 men)

XXXIV Corps (166th-170th Legions) (30,000 men)

XXXV Corps (171st-175th Legions) (30,000 men)

XXXVI Corps (176th-180th Legions) (30,000 men)

Armoured (30,000 men, 400 tanks):

26th Armoured Division (3,000 men, 40 M-5B "Grizzly"* heavy battletanks)

27th Armoured Division (3,000 men, 40 M-3B "Coyote"** Main/Medium battletanks)

28th Armoured Division (3,000 men, 40 M-3B "Coyote"** Main/Medium battletanks)

29th Armoured Division (3,000 men, 40 M-3B "Coyote"** Main/Medium battletanks)

30th Armoured Division (3,000 men, 40 M-3A1 "Phalanx"** Main/Medium battletanks)

31st Armoured Division (3,000 men, 40 M-5B "Grizzly"* heavy battletanks)

32nd Armoured Division (3,000 men, 40 M-3A1 "Phalanx"** Main/Medium Battletanks)

33rd Armoured Division (3,000 men, 40 M-3A1 "Phalanx"** Main/Medium Battletanks)

34th Armoured Division (3,000 men, 40 M-3A1 "Phalanx"** Main/Medium Battletanks)

35th Armoured Division (3,000 men, 40 M-3A1 "Phalanx"** Main/Medium Battletanks)

*For stats, use M1 Abrams main battletank
** For stats, use Leopard2 main battletank
An additional note: the difference in naming between the Coyote and Phalanx is mainly a regional one; the M-3A1 Phalanx is used in Achaea, while the M-3B Coyote is used in Ottonia. They are, however, effectively the same.

Artillary (40,000 men, 240 Rocket Artillery, 100 Field Guns, 400 Flak Guns):

26th Mobile Artillery Division (4,000 men, 40 Yanitarian Arms AVM-43 Raquel Rocket Artillery, henceforth referred to simply as "AVM-43 Raquel" (OOC: Remember selling me those, Yanitaria?), 40 Mounted Flak Guns)

27th Mobile Artillery Division (4,000 men, 40 AVM-43 Raquels, 40 Mounted Flak Guns)

28th Mobile Artillery Division (4,000 men, 40 AVM-43 Raquels, 40 Mounted Flak Guns)

29th Heavy Artillery Division (4,000 men, 25 FG-4 "Basilisk" Field Artillery pieces*, 40 Flak Guns)

30th Heavy Artillery Division (4,000 men, 25 FG-4 "Basilisk" Field Artillery pieces*, 40 Flak Guns)

31st Mobile Artillery Division (4,000 men, 40 AVM-43 Raquels, 40 Mounted Flak Guns)

32nd Mobile Artillery Division (4,000 men, 40 AVM-43 Raquels, 40 Mounted Flak Guns)

33rd Mobile Artillery Division (4,000 men, 40 AVM-43 Raquels, 40 Mounted Flak Guns)

34th Heavy Artillery Division (4,000 men, 25 FG-4 "Basilisk" Field Artillery pieces*, 40 Flak Guns)

35th Heavy Artillery Division (4,000 men, 25 FG-4 "Basilisk" Field Artillery pieces*, 40 Flak Guns)

*The FG-4 Basilisk is a 140 mm field gun, and most are fairly old. It is quite powerful. Also, the Flak guns are just plain old AA guns. Nothing special.

OOC: Also, a few things.
1) Leasath, you're coming up against my men anyway. I'm helping to guard the south, specifically the Black Sea area and the Ukraine, coincidentally where all of those oil fields are.
2) Yanitaria, when did you come in? Just out of idle curiosity.

OOC: Here are my military details. I'm not too sure about Naval Details (i.e. amount of personnel on each type of ship), so please fill me in if I've made a mistake.

IC:

Defense Minister Keyes' suggestions were carried out by the Caeser. Already, he had sent off the 2 Jayatian Guard Brigades (the 3rd Brigade was already in Poland Territory) who would reach their destinations by air or by sea. The soldier/marines were being sent in Jayatian Carrier Ships (specifically designed for soldiers), albeit this would be a slow process (each brigade would take a week to reach shore).

When there, the Jayatian Guards would report to their assigned Territories and build military bases so that Jayate will have a center of operations in Europe and thereby respond faster to threats and to military urgencies.

Total Jayatian Guards deployed: 3 Brigades totaling 20,000, spread out in Jayatian Colonies to build military bases

A Squadron of the Jayatian Navy were sent to patrol and secure the Mediterranean Borders of Jayatian Territories and to provide support. The Squadron consisted of:

2 Battleships
1 Aircraft Carrier
1 Destroyer
1 Submarine
Total Jayatian Naval Personnel deployed: 100,000, spread out along the Mediterranean

Meanwhile, the Jayatian Army was sent for the main part of the war - to secure and kill all enemies along the Neo-Ixanian-Jayatian Borders of the territories and to, if needed, chase after the enemy should they invade Neo-Ixanian Russia (but first, getting the permission of Neo-Ixania to do so). This is their mission, though their objectives may change throughout the course of the war. Here are their numbers and details:

1 Division of 15,000 soldiers, spread out in Jayatian Territories to support the Jayatian Guard and give them cover as they do their mission
1 Theater of 250,000 soldiers, spread out along the Neo-Ixanian-Jayatian Territorial Borders, and as a potential invasion force
(The Division and the Theater are further divided into other Army groups)
100,000 Men and women each for the Division and Theater for logistical purposes
Total Jayatian Soldiers deployed: 365,000 soliders

Furthermore, the Jayatian Air Force was deployed to patrol Jayatian Territorial and Border skies and to engage enemy aircraft. Their objectives may change throughout the course of the war. Here are their numbers:

1 Air Force Command of 400 aircraft, spread out in Jayatian Territories to patrol and protect Jayatian skies
1 Air Force Command of 400 aircraft, spread out along the Neo-Ixanian-Jayatian Territorial borders to patrol and protect the hostile skies
400 Men and women of various organizations for logistical purposes
Total Jayatian Air Fighters deployed: 1,200 Aircraft (1,000,000 people)

Total Number of Jayatian Military Deployed for the War: 1,865,000 Men and Women of Jayate's Armed Forces and Homeland Army

OOC: As the war progresses, there will be more Aircraft and more soldiers (and possibly more Navy) as I am currently building military bases. These military bases will allow Jayate to send more people (including natives) and to send them faster since it won't be a long trip to the frontlines.

OOC: Hey Erusea I sent you a TG.

OOC: First post in and you are already god modding.

You Did Not:
1) Allow N-I to RP picking up your ships on radar. Believe it or not, N-I's defenses aren't blind.
2) Allow N-I to RP any naval action. You assume that N-I allows your ships right up to his/her coast. You skip over naval patrols, battle groups, submarines, and random civilian boats.

You Did:
3)Get as close as thirty kilometers from shore. Shore guns have a range of 60km, and cruise missiles, such as the tomahawk, can go up to 2,500km. A real military has air patrols, naval patrols, hydrophones, and all sorts of things that allow them to detect incoming fleets.

Also, this is just a personal gripe, but neither of you assumed that N-I called in allied fleets when this mess first started. If you can get fleets there, why can't N-I's allies?

Also, Lord Sumguy is totally correct. You really ought to give numbers and details about your troops.

There are different styles to RP... In every single one I have been the participates make a story, but if you wish I will post numbers. Give me a second on that.

Secondly, I have not posted that his defenses have not detected my ships nor that my ships are undetectable. Now that is why I have to wait for his post, for him to reply. I only stated the protocals of my military and what they do, for example, the hovercraft's 30mm guns would provide supporting fire while landing forces would move out to engage. Also, it is up to him to post his defenses engaging me it would be Godmoding to post that his defenses were attacking me while I was landing. I have to leave that to him.

OOC: so, you are both Neo-Eurasia and Leasath?

OOC: so, you are both Neo-Eurasia and Leasath?

Done intentionally because it seems akward to say I am experienced when my account says I have about 40 or so posts.

I use multiple nations yes, but you cannot say I am puppet wanking as I am only using Leasath for this war.

There are different styles to RP... In every single one I have been the participates make a story, but if you wish I will post numbers. Give me a second on that.

Secondly, I have not posted that his defenses have not detected my ships nor that my ships are undetectable. Now that is why I have to wait for his post, for him to reply. I only stated the protocals of my military and what they do, for example, the hovercraft's 30mm guns would provide supporting fire while landing forces would move out to engage. Also, it is up to him to post his defenses engaging me it would be Godmoding to post that his defenses were attacking me while I was landing. I have to leave that to him.

No, it's god modding because you are magically 30km off of Ixanian shores, which plain out won't happen with out some sort of intervention.

It's god modding because you are basically saying "Ixania's shore defenses have not detected nor engaged me until I am literally knee deep into artillery range."

You probably would have been detected before entering the Bosphorus, seeing as how it is extremely easy to put a spy boat there, and constantly monitor traffic there. Failing that, your ships could have been detected 1000km away from the nearest radar station, or by Ixanian submarines in international waters.

The fact that you didn't allow Ixania to RP detecting your ships, or reacting at all is god modding.

No, it's god modding because you are magically 30km off of Ixanian shores, which plain out won't happen with out some sort of intervention.

It's god modding because you are basically saying "Ixania's shore defenses have not detected nor engaged me until I am literally knee deep into artillery range."

You probably would have been detected before entering the Bosphorus, seeing as how it is extremely easy to put a spy boat there, and constantly monitor traffic there. Failing that, your ships could have been detected 1000km away from the nearest radar station, or by Ixanian submarines in international waters.

The fact that you didn't allow Ixania to RP detecting your ships, or reacting at all is god modding.

Please read the European Colonization thread. My fleet has long since approached Neo-Ixania since our ultimatum. He refused to take any action. Furthermore HE CAN'T TAKE ACTION BECAUSE HE HAS NOT BEEN ONLINE. I am doing my part now I am waiting for him to do his. Thank you for your input now please let's get on with the RP.

OOC: I have to say I concur with Yanitaria here. Especially since the Aegean has recently been something of hot-spot due to the now-calming dispute between yours truly and New Chalcedon, so there was bound to be at least some mention of a vast fleet creeping up towards the Bosphorus. And also because I distinctly remember stationing listening posts in the islands as soon as the colonization of Greece began. But that's just me.

Please read the European Colonization thread. My fleet has long since approached Neo-Ixania since our ultimatum. He refused to take any action. Furthermore HE CAN'T TAKE ACTION BECAUSE HE HAS NOT BEEN ONLINE. I am doing my part now I am waiting for him to do his. Thank you for your input now please let's get on with the RP.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and I read through pages 4-8, and now I have to say, that you are simply bending the truth.

The last post having anything to do with military movements states:

http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/leasath__3.jpg

TO:Empress Anastasia II of the Ixanian Empire and Grand Duchess of Hanslow
FROM: Leasathi Generalissimo Abdul Kadar
RE: re:re: Proclamation
ENCRYPTION: HIGH

You have chosen war against the face of a giant. It is your fault that you will loose land and people. I will have the Grand Duchess of Handslow in Leasathi hands in a week. You cannot stop what you have no brought to yourself. As our friends in Erusea would say, "Вы все всё равно скоро сдохнете." You will all soon die anyway.

Allah hu Ackbar.

Signed,
عبد عند
Abdul Kadar
Generalissimo of Leasath

In the seas, the Adnan fleet was full of activity as the military forces prepared themselves for a landing inside of Russian Ixania. The military's planes on the carriers were ready to take off and launch their strikes to soften the landing for the naval infantry. All hell would break loose in Russia.

OOC: I will wait for Mal to start since I think we agreed to start the war in a two front theater of operations.

Before that, you had specified that your ships were several hundred miles away, which is an acceptable distance.

However, you magically went from several hundred kilometers away to just 30km, which is indeed a god mode. Neo-Ixania doesn't control the seas several hundred kilometers away, and so really can't do much about your fleet being out there. However, anything in between that, and you are in definite range of radar, AShM, planes, submarines, naval patrols, and such.

You didn't even state that they had embarked. You simply stated that they prepared, which is not the same thing.

And thank you in advance for not typing anymore sentences in caps.

OOC: And then, if all that weren't enough, I have radar on a lot of my equipment, and seeing as I'm guarding N-I's Black Sea coastline, I'd notice. And you'd be eating artillery fire as you landed if I did that.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and I read through pages 4-8, and now I have to say, that you are simply bending the truth.

The last post having anything to do with military movements states:



Before that, you had specified that your ships were several hundred miles away, which is an acceptable distance.

However, you magically went from several hundred kilometers away to just 30km, which is indeed a god mode. Neo-Ixania doesn't control the seas several hundred kilometers away, and so really can't do much about your fleet being out there. However, anything in between that, and you are in definite range of radar, AShM, planes, submarines, naval patrols, and such.

You didn't even state that they had embarked. You simply stated that they prepared, which is not the same thing.

And thank you in advance for not typing anymore sentences in caps.

Thank you in advance for not underlining stuff.

Now then, see I am waiting for him to get online to post. I can't just go and say "My ships were being pounded by Ixania's defenses, or Achae-Ottonia's defenses," because that's their job. They RP their part. Please stop reiterating that point because I know perfectly well what you are trying to get across and there is just about nothing that I can do about that. All there is to do is wait.

Also, A-O you should write about your response to my post, your defenses should be attacking by now don't you think?

OOC: And then, if all that weren't enough, I have radar on a lot of my equipment, and seeing as I'm guarding N-I's Black Sea coastline, I'd notice. And you'd be eating artillery fire as you landed if I did that.

OOC: Yes, but artillery only has a range of ~60km, unless you count Anti-Shipping Missiles, which can attain ranges of 3000km+. As a note though, the radar on an artillery piece probably wouldn't go farther than the range of the artillery.

OOC: Yes, but artillery only has a range of ~60km, unless you count Anti-Shipping Missiles, which can attain ranges of 3000km+. As a note though, the radar on an artillery piece probably wouldn't go farther than the range of the artillery.

True, that, but can we go over that small little technicality and get on with the actual RP? Please?

OOC: How about Leasath just re-do his move and then we all wait for Neo-Ixania to respond unless Leasath's movements affect anybody else. It's pointless to talk about his first move if he took it back.

OOC: How about Leasath just re-do his move and then we all wait for Neo-Ixania to respond unless Leasath's movements affect anybody else. It's pointless to talk about his first move if he took it back.

Agreed, I will edit my post to remove the landing part since I understand that is a bit Godmode since in reality it does not give NI the chance to fight me with my Navy.

OOC: NE yet another TG. Important.

Thank you in advance for not underlining stuff.

Now then, see I am waiting for him to get online to post. I can't just go and say "My ships were being pounded by Ixania's defenses, or Achae-Ottonia's defenses," because that's their job. They RP their part. Please stop reiterating that point because I know perfectly well what you are trying to get across and there is just about nothing that I can do about that. All there is to do is wait.

OOC: Read my posts. You'll notice that I never once said "Oh, your ships could have gotten there, just so long as you RP taking shells." No, that is not it at all. I am saying that they cannot, and let me repeat this, can not be there, because they would have been intercepted.

I am saying that it is god modding because you deny neo the right to rp naval, air, or cruise missile retaliation before you get to with in 30km of the shore.

Now put your ships back, and properly rp them as sailing towards the russian coast, so that neo can rp what ever countermeasures he/she wants. If Neo says "I don't want/have anything to intercept your ships before they get to with in 30km of my shores" then you can RP your ships as 30km away.

Otherwise, you'll just have to RP them as heading towards the coast from several hundred kilometers away, and allow Neo the chance to stop them.

Neo asked me yesterday to get involved on Ixania's behalf, and so I have a vested interest in keeping this as fair and god mode free as possible.

Edit:

OOC: How about Leasath just re-do his move and then we all wait for Neo-Ixania to respond unless Leasath's movements affect anybody else. It's pointless to talk about his first move if he took it back.

That's what I have been asking for this entire time. Just move them back to several hundred kilometers away, like before, and proceed.

OOC: Read my posts. You'll notice that I never once said "Oh, your ships could have gotten there, just so long as you RP taking shells." No, that is not it at all. I am saying that they cannot, and let me repeat this, can not be there, because they would have been intercepted.

I am saying that it is god modding because you deny neo the right to rp naval, air, or cruise missile retaliation before you get to with in 30km of the shore.

Now put your ships back, and properly rp them as sailing towards the russian coast, so that neo can rp what ever countermeasures he/she wants. If Neo says "I don't want/have anything to intercept your ships before they get to with in 30km of my shores" then you can RP your ships as 30km away.

Otherwise, you'll just have to RP them as heading towards the coast from several hundred kilometers away, and allow Neo the chance to stop them.

Neo asked me yesterday to get involved on Ixania's behalf, and so I have a vested interest in keeping this as fair and god mode free as possible.

Your a little late, already done that =P

Furthermore please refer to Neo-Ixania as NI because Neo is my internet nickname and it confuses me, I might make a mistake with assumptions there...

Your a little late, already done that =P

Furthermore please refer to Neo-Ixania as NI because Neo is my internet nickname and it confuses me, I might make a mistake with assumptions there...

Read above, I edited my post, since I started typing it before any of those posts were there.

And I don't think it matters how I refer to Neo-Ixania. Obviously nobody else here is called neo (that I know of), and you obviously caught it. I think you are smart enough to guess who I am talking about (not trying to insult you or anything, that would be very rude of me).

OOC mmm i've had a fleet and ships in NI for hell of a long time now ,no way i would not have fired at you

OOC mmm i've had a fleet and ships in NI for hell of a long time now ,no way i would not have fired at you

OOC: traitor =P

Well, you have to post that they were in the black sea or something and post that they are doing so instead of crying over spilled milk and complaining more.

OOC: Erusea TGs.

OOC: traitor =P

Well, you have to post that they were in the black sea or something and post that they are doing so instead of crying over spilled milk and complaining more.
OOC
blame my ruler wife and other two Ixanian woman i have married to mains

oh and sorry i've lose all my ships list of what i had as i delete the hard drive it was on as it was only way to fix what going on with

State Department Communication
The Holy Reich urges and demands that the government of Maldorians immediately cease and desist combat operations against Neo-Ixania within 24 hours. Failure to comply with this request will led to the deployment of Prussian forces in accordance with alliance obligations with Neo-Ixania.

OOC: LS, and Yanitaria, wtf? There is a goddamn OOC thread. USE IT. I posted with the intent of having meLeasath, Northern Rangeria, etc post. I read the 1st page and already there is god-damn spam! Seriously! I am thinking about just RETCONNING this whole bloody thing. Nice first impression for the first-timers Yanitaria...;)


EDIT: I am making a new thread. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE SINGLE BLOODY IN CHARACTER POST BESIDES MY OPENING ONE AND TPF's!

EDIT2: And Leasath's...sorry...xD

EDIT3: Sorry...And some of the IC's on the 1st page...>_>

Rarely; if ever have we been on the same side as The Peoples Freedom; politically; however in this case; we must agree. The Fortress State strongly advises the Maldorian Leadership to stand down and stop this ‘Jihad’ of blatant and unchecked Muslim aggression against Neo-Ixania or face severe and swift consequences

Rei Arakawa, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Animarnia State Department

(Ooc Edit: Bugger...just consider yourself fairly warned for the new thread ?)

OOC: LS, and Yanitaria, please leave. There is a goddamn OOC thread. USE IT. I posted with the intent of having meLeasath, Northern Rangeria, etc post. I read the 1st page and already there is god-damn spam! Seriously! I am thinking about just RETCONNING this whole bloody thing. Nice first impression for the first-timers Yanitaria...;)

OOC: The OOC thread is not linked here, and I am not going to go sifting through every genocide and "lol I hate commies" post in jolt to find it when one is not mentioned.

In any case, I am on Ixania's side. Also, I don't give a damn what the first-timers think. If they can't RP properly, then I will point that out, so they can improve. That said:

IC:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/UNDComrade/Yanitaria/OfficialCommunication-1.png

The URPY will be supporting our ally, Neo-Ixania, in this conflict. Yanitarian Foreign Legion forces have already been moved into the area, along with elements of the Yanitarian Air Corps. We wish you the best of luck.

==================================
OOC: Er, bugger indeed. I suppose I'll just repost this announcement when the new thread is posted.

OOC: Greston get online.

Alright, I suppose we should have a reboot. I suppose this will be the OOC thread. And for God's sake, no 1 IC liners or posts just for bloody OOC crap. Please! Either that, or delete every OOC post in this thread and continue....>_> Doesn't matter, either way works.

OOC wait Russian Ixania a conloy is it not ? soooo :confused:

Okay, let's retcon this, start over, yes? There is more OOC crap than anything else here, just one big mis understanding.

It would be much appreciated if the link to the new thread could be posted here. Thanks.

HERE YA GUYS GO...

NO OCC CRAP THERE PLEASE

IC ONLY (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13572165#post13572165)

Wow dude MSN doesn't work, sorry about that. It no longer sends messages, it tells me: The following message could not be delivered to all recipients:
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Really gay, sorry about that

Wow dude MSN doesn't work, sorry about that. It no longer sends messages, it tells me: The following message could not be delivered to all recipients:
omg msn won't work

Really gay, sorry about that

Well...that hurt my feelings...>: (

Hey NE go here
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=553110

I reserved Israel and Iran for you.

Wow dude MSN doesn't work, sorry about that. It no longer sends messages, it tells me: The following message could not be delivered to all recipients:
omg msn won't work

Really gay, sorry about that

hey you still have it ,i'am keeping myself going with windows 2000 on a slow IBM that don't have it and i keep getting told i need to get on

Last thing, a person or thing of Leasath is LEASATHI, not LEASATHIAN. Thank you, and Mephras, for getting that right. Tis a good guess really.

oh last it's Imperial when i'am not RPing FT and you call my people Imperial's

IA imperial army
IAF '' air froce
IN '' navy

Black Sea:

The Adnan fleet sailed closer and closer to the coastline of Ixanian-controlled Russia. The Leasathi fleet Admiral Hussein Johawar was reading a little on a record of the Erusean invasion of Route1, a very successful beachhead was established from it. He hoped to learn more on the Erusean tactics which had worked for them so well in that war. Intelligence had reported however that Neo-Ixania had recieved new shipments of military supplies from other Leasathi allies including Imperial Isa and Erusea. Why on Earth are our allies helping the enemy for. They must not know of our intentions.

The Adnan fleet moved forward through the Black Sea, and as he approached the coastline he had been notified that the fleet had come with one hundred kilometers from the shore.

"Launch our fighters," ordered the Admiral, "and prepare all of the troops for landing."

"Yessir!" replied his men.

On the deck of the two carriers, activity was bustling as MiG-29K Fulcrums took off from the Kuznetsov-class ships. Other ships had already began to fire missiles at the coastline targeting large buildings and anything that looks like it could make an effective garrison. Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters took off from several landing carriers made their way towards the coast to support the ground forces. Mi-8 Hips also took off carrying Republican Guard troopers from the Medina division to fastrope on the beach behind enemy lines. Yedinorog-class landing carriers launched their ZUBR hovercrafts which then made their way towards the beach. On board were Leasath's Medina, Nida, Hammurabi, and Nebuchadnezzer divisions. These shock troops would take the beach and establish a beachead for reinforcements to arrive.

Onboard the ZUBR, a platoon form the Nida division readied for the battle ahead.

"Okay men, this is it. Estimated time to departure is T-Minus one 10 minutes," said Sergeant Jahrid. He grabbed his AK-47 rifles and felt the extra magazines that were pocketed in his chest. The hard ceramic tin armor he wore was underneath. It would provide little real protection, perhaps taking a bullet or two, but still, it was better than nothing. "When we hit the beach," continued Jahrid, "there will be no time to kiss the ground. Get your rifle and start shooting! Is that understood?"

"Yes sir!" came the unanimous reply.

Private First-Class Khalid Al-Abraha gripped his RPG-7 launcher tightly, and had two RPG-7 warheads strapped on his back. He looked around at the other men carrying various weaponry, AK-47's, G3's, RPG-7's, RPG-29's, Dragunov sniper rifles, and a few AK-74U sub machine guns. The hovercraft moved onwards quickly at a steady pace, and moved towards the beach. Above them were the Mi-8 Hip helicopters which were to fly into Neo-Ixania's Russia low and fast, to move into the city to cause havoc for Ixanian forces...

Back at Babylon Air Force Base in Leasath, long range strategic bombers, the Tu-22M2 variant, began take off checks to head towards Ixanian Russia to begin bombing campaigns there. The fleet itself was going to launch it's landing forces as soon as it could clear any opposing naval power and threatening shore defenses.

Order of Battle:

Adnan Fleet:
2x Kuznetsov-class carriers (40x MiG-29K Fulcrum each)
3x Iowa-class battleships (3x Ka-29 Helix each)
7x Kirov-class battlecruiers (3x Ka-29 Helix each)
10x Slava-class cruisers (1x Ka-27)
14x Cassard-class AEGIS
12x Ghisha-class corvettes
15x Udaloy-class destroyers (2x Ka-27 each)
16x Neustrashimy-class frigates (12x Ka-27 total)
13x Krivak-class frigates
5x Akula-class SSN (nuke-powered attack submarines)
38x Yedinorog-class landing carriers (carrying landing forces)
66x ZUBR hovercrafts

Medina Division:
15,000 soldiers
100 T-72B tanks
40 BMP-2 IFV's
60 BTR-80 APC's
70 Vodniks
60 Mi-24 Hind helicopters
40 Mi-8 Hips

Nida Division:
15,000 soldiers
120 T-72B tanks
60 BMP-2 IFV's
60 BTR-80 APC's
50 Vodniks
100 Mi-24 Hind helicopters
20 Mi-8 Hips

Hammurabi Division:
15,000 soldiers
60 T-72B tanks
80 BMP-2 IFV's
40 BTR-70 APC's
60 Vodniks
80 Mi-24 Hinds
60 Mi-8 Hips

Nebuchadnezzar Division:
15,000 soldiers
40 T-72 tanks
25 PT-76 amphibious light tanks
40 BMP-3 IFV's
50 BTR-80 APC's
65 Vodniks
40 Mi-24 Hinds
40 Mi-8 Hips
20 SS-1 Scud Launchers

OOC:That was from the IC thread. What does he mean by "10 minutes away from departure"? Does he mean that they are 10 minutes away from launching the landing craft, or that the ships are still several hundred km away, and preparing to set sail?

Official Hegemonic Declaration:
By order of the Hegemon, the nation of Greston is commanded not to engage in hostilities agains the nation of Neo-Ixania, as is required by the Hegemony charter. Noncompliance will result in immediate expulsion from the Hegemony.

As Neo-Ixania has recently been accepted a member state of the Hegemony, Hegemonic states are authorized to send military forces to defend Neo-Ixania and it's colonies from invasion. Any nations seeking to conduct military operations agaisnt the state of Neo-Ixania and it's territories as a decleration of war agains the nations of the Hegemony, and will be responded to with military action. The Hegemony International Defense Force will be deployed shortly to Neo-Ixanian Russia for the purpose of defending it against any outside threats.

Lord Sumguy, Hegemon

OOC: I will post details of deployment either later tonight or tomorrow

you have no right sending in troops as Neo-Ixania not signed the Hegemony charter, you may have accepted them as a member ,but they still have to sign

OOC: My forces have been stationed in the Black Sea. They have been waiting, they have been closing in, they will need ten minutes to launch the ZUBR hovercrafts. Those are extremely large LCAC style machines that would hit the beaches.

Furthermore I question how many of these late 2007 countries are pumping out seemingly millions of what are claimed to be elite unites into warfare in a land far far away well after I have deployed my force, which has 60,000 infantry and i think less than a thousand or at least somewhere around that number in combined vehicles.

Yan you claimed to have sent 560 elite aircraft units yet that is a force even larger than what the United Kingdom's entire Royal Air Force is composed of. Are all of these countries little hellholes that are on economic collapse and forever in debt, that have these elite unstoppable fighting units that is very close to 2% of the populations, sending it to a far away land you are in no way affiliated with, against powers that can throw bodies at you and still win?

OOC: My forces have been stationed in the Black Sea. They have been waiting, they have been closing in, they will need ten minutes to launch the ZUBR hovercrafts. Those are extremely large LCAC style machines that would hit the beaches.

Furthermore I question how many of these late 2007 countries are pumping out seemingly millions of what are claimed to be elite unites into warfare in a land far far away well after I have deployed my force, which has 60,000 infantry and i think less than a thousand or at least somewhere around that number in combined vehicles.

Yan you claimed to have sent 560 elite aircraft units yet that is a force even larger than what the United Kingdom's entire Royal Air Force is composed of. Are all of these countries little hellholes that are on economic collapse and forever in debt, that have these elite unstoppable fighting units that is very close to 2% of the populations, sending it to a far away land you are in no way affiliated with, against powers that can throw bodies at you and still win?

OOC: How about you play your game and we play ours, hm?

State Department Communication
The Holy Reich urges and demands that the government of Maldorians immediately cease and desist combat operations against Neo-Ixania within 24 hours. Failure to comply with this request will led to the deployment of Prussian forces in accordance with alliance obligations with Neo-Ixania.

OOC: Thank you for your support, TPF.

Am I the only one a bit confused on placement of troops and fleets? My understanding has Greston and Maldorians in the North Sea, and Leasath in the Black Sea. It is also worth noting that the North Sea and Black Sea are rather large, and fleets could be right next to Denmark, or more near to Britain or the Netherlands, likewise in the Black Sea they could be near the Bosphorous, or bearing down on the Russian coast. I don't know if it's a huge problem, but I'd like to be clear, so there won't be confusion and fighting later, and to prevent accusations of godmodding.

Edit: Also, as to my troop numbers, I'm very new to this war RPing as well, although I'd suspect it'd be probably around 30,000, as our government was hoping for the best. A defensive fleet was moved into the straits, though again, it wouldn't be anything massive

OOC: My forces have been stationed in the Black Sea. They have been waiting, they have been closing in, they will need ten minutes to launch the ZUBR hovercrafts. Those are extremely large LCAC style machines that would hit the beaches.

Furthermore I question how many of these late 2007 countries are pumping out seemingly millions of what are claimed to be elite unites into warfare in a land far far away well after I have deployed my force, which has 60,000 infantry and i think less than a thousand or at least somewhere around that number in combined vehicles.

Yan you claimed to have sent 560 elite aircraft units yet that is a force even larger than what the United Kingdom's entire Royal Air Force is composed of. Are all of these countries little hellholes that are on economic collapse and forever in debt, that have these elite unstoppable fighting units that is very close to 2% of the populations, sending it to a far away land you are in no way affiliated with, against powers that can throw bodies at you and still win?

Like I said, you have not posted anything about moving in, so either get back out to several hundred kilometers back, and RP embarking.

Just so you even you can get this, here is a diagram (please note that the positions are hypothetical, and is just meant to give you a rough idea of the concept which you can't seem to grasp).

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/UNDComrade/Yanitaria/Ukraine.jpg

Notice how you totally skip pass the possible Neo-Ixanian fleet. Also, at all times you are with in cruise missile and aircraft range, which you never give a chance to attack you before you reach the shores.

Is that really so hard to get?

In any case, I do have more planes than the entire UK airforce. But guess what? The UK is not a military centered nation. Mine is. The UK doesn't have a billion+ pop. Mine does. The UK does not have trillions upon trillions of dollars sitting in their military budget. Mine does.

And I never said they were elite. However my soldiers are of high quality by virtue of the fact that I spend $500,000 per soldier equipping and training them, sacrificing numbers. They are also soldiers until retirement, so they have experience and plenty of training behind them.

In any case, so far I have 200,000 ground forces, spread out along the Ixanian coast. You have 60,000 that will attack in one area. You still come out ahead. But don't think that 200,000 is a lot, seeing as how I have 17 million men and women in my military (do the math, my military budget according to NS Dossier, divided by the average of $500,000 per soldier).

And then my military isn't even as big as his is, but my pop is similar in size (probably a little less), and I have a fair amount of defense money available. I only field a total of 2.5 million ground force personnel, alright, considerably less than 2% of 1 billion. And I've only deployed 250,000, and I MIGHT up it to 500,000. Alright? Not unreasonable.

BTW, Yanitaria, kudos on the nice visual. Good way to drive the point home.

And then my military isn't even as big as his is, but my pop is similar in size (probably a little less), and I have a fair amount of defense money available. I only field a total of 2.5 million ground force personnel, alright, considerably less than 2% of 1 billion. And I've only deployed 250,000, and I MIGHT up it to 500,000. Alright? Not unreasonable.

BTW, Yanitaria, kudos on the nice visual. Good way to drive the point home.

Thank you. I tried explaining before, but he didn't seem to get it at all. He consistently missed the point.

MY Defence budget is some $37 Trillion USD to put that in perspective.

May I make a surgestion? for easier managment when the actual fighting breaks out perhaps there should be two 'theatre' threads? the North Sea and Black Sea?

OOC: I'm posting this in the OOC thread because in reality, only my allies would receive this information.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13513105&postcount=7

Its that times 3.

@ Imperial Isa: i apologize for not updating the Hegemony creation thread, Neo-Ixania joined three days ago. Besides, he has been my ally since long before then. If that is not enough reason, then perhaps the fact that Greston Is (well, technically was) a Hegemony member is. And I have been in fact asked to help, though OOC'ly.

@ Imperial Isa: i apologize for not updating the Hegemony creation thread, Neo-Ixania joined three days ago. Besides, he has been my ally since long before then. If that is not enough reason, then perhaps the fact that Greston Is (well, technically was) a Hegemony member is. And I have been in fact asked to help, though OOC'ly.

if my post sound like i 'am pissed off i'am sorry but i'am for Neo-Ixania should have told me seeing our nations are connected, if the NI Homeland was attacked IC Valentina be pleaing to Carlos to send help and i have have poeple ,plane and ships moving in and out and OOC'ly i don't have all the facts which is not good

A bit of a dogpile, eh guy? Leasath sends 60,000 men and you guys send an uber-jillion...>_<. I suppose we can play the numbers game.

A bit of a dogpile, eh guy? Leasath sends 60,000 men and you guys send an uber-jillion...>_<. I suppose we can play the numbers game.


Ahem... I doubt all those forces are gathered en masse at the shores of the Black Sea.

Ahem... I doubt all those forces are gathered en masse at the shores of the Black Sea.

Yes, I'm aware. Defense in depth, eh? Anyways, with the thousands of your allied ships arriving, it will be a bit lopsided.

Yes, I'm aware. Defense in depth, eh? Anyways, with the thousands of your allied ships arriving, it will be a bit lopsided.

I am holding back a lot of my military power. Only sending two fleets, and 200,000 soldiers at first. And I may not even land reinforcements if I don't need them (why would anyone do that?)

I agree that those numbers add up though, once you have 30 nations on one side, and only 3-4 on another, but meh. Iraq had originally 49 nations involved, just on the NATO side.

Edit: Who's side is Jayate on? Posts are a bit vague.

Well, so far just a bell-ringer (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13573632#post13573632) from me for now since my posting time isn't unduly great lately. I'll go over my ORBAT notes and post that later in here, but I think I covered the basic overhead necessary in the post; the numbers sent have to do with a lot of doctrinal and organizational stuff on my own IC end more than anything else. But given as large is indeed large, for now they're just starting to go and appropriate time will of course be given for them to arrive; besides which to move a bit beyond the numbers game I'd be quite happy to entertain some recon/counter-recon fights once they start showing up. In any case, I'll be monitoring this thread accordingly so by all means ask what needs it.:)

No one's got a problem with me, right? I mean, the only relations I have with any of you is an embassy with N-I. >_>

Yay, another bandwaggoner!

Hmm....perhaps I shall look into this on the side of Maldorians...

Jesus Christ as if Ixania was some sort of celebrity half the world comes out of nowhere to defend him.

Plus I see we are going to have to play the numbers game since it was deemed appropriate by the Coalition to send nearly a billion men to hold back 60,000. Well, I am a 3.5 billion pop nation, and I AM capable of sending a hell lot of more fighters than I just did. Personally I am beginning to loose interest seeing that the enemy has enough men so that they can practically swim up to my invasion fleet and knock out my forces, from nations that came out of nowhere joining for OOC reasons.

Jesus Christ as if Ixania was some sort of celebrity half the world comes out of nowhere to defend him.

Plus I see we are going to have to play the numbers game since it was deemed appropriate by the Coalition to send nearly a billion men to hold back 60,000. Well, I am a 3.5 billion pop nation, and I AM capable of sending a hell lot of more fighters than I just did. Personally I am beginning to loose interest seeing that the enemy has enough men so that they can practically swim up to my invasion fleet and knock out my forces, from nations that came out of nowhere joining for OOC reasons.

No, it's just that N-I doesn't wank, and doesn't randomly invade people.

Well, you didn't really ask for Neo-Ixania's consent to invade him... though of course you knew you wouldn't have any opposition, since no-one wants to get a poor reputation...

Anyhow, can all those in the Fegosian Union (Zaheran, Mokastana), plus those on the side of Neo-Ixania stroll over to the Fegosian Union forum at www.z15.invisionfree.com/The_Fegosian_Union.

No, it's just that N-I doesn't wank, and doesn't randomly invade people.

OOC: Woah! You are saying that I, Leasath, AND Greston are wankers?

OOC: Woah! You are saying that I, Leasath, AND Greston are wankers?

Did I say that? No, I have no opinion on you and greston OOCly, though ICly you both are just greedy imperialists. Leasath, yes, but that's just beating a dead horse.

YEAH!

*Lights torch*

If anybody knew anything about tactics or strategy... then you would all know that numbers don't matter.

If anybody knew anything about tactics or strategy... then you would all know that numbers don't matter.

Amen to that. But unfortunately it seems this war will drag on forever because every move is contested.

Which is why the Fegosian Union need only deploy 24 000 men

numbers can have a psychological effect, after all hearing some yell "WERE OUTNUMBERED FIVE TO ONE" can be demoralizing. Though if you are the one doing the outnumbering and they are kicking your ass, then that can also be demoralizing. Tactically, all numbers mean is you have more pieces on the board. Psychologically, it's just another tool to fuck with the enemy....

Anyone sitting on a ridge told to hold the line will have second thoughts if they see a wall of enemy forces charging, especailly if they are the invaders.

Especially since the invaders have no real stake in the land. Combined with bombs dropping on their heads, and tanks roaring towards them.

In any case, like we have said, we have 5 times your force in the black see spread out all over the coast, and all along the boarders. You will likely outnumber us in the initial landings, so quite whining.

Some people seem to have forgotten how this whole thing started. It was never a fair fight. If there was truly an interest in "fairness" Greston would have never brought Maldorians in to threaten Neo-Ixania, who he is already larger than. But the second the numbers game is played by someone else, its unfair and annoying:rolleyes:.

And as to entering for OOC reasons, almost everyone I have seen has come into the RP under alliance obligations. Neo-Ixania has spent a large part of his NS time fostering IC friendships with nations, it is not surprising that his friends would support him against aggression, and it is not OOC.

Some people seem to have forgotten how this whole thing started. It was never a fair fight. If there was truly an interest in "fairness" Greston would have never brought Maldorians in to threaten Neo-Ixania, who he is already larger than. But the second the numbers game is played by someone else, its unfair and annoying:rolleyes:.

And as to entering for OOC reasons, almost everyone I have seen has come into the RP under alliance obligations. Neo-Ixania has spent a large part of his NS time fostering IC friendships with nations, it is not surprising that his friends would support him against aggression, and it is not OOC.

Actually I brang Maldorians in because are friends ICly and OOCly so I told him on AIM, do you want to share Ireland. He said yes and he threatened Ixania on his own. I haven't whine once I said the yeah part because I though Yani said I was a wanker but now I noticed it wasn't directed towards me.

Actually I brang Maldorians in because are friends ICly and OOCly so I told him on AIM, do you want to share Ireland. He said yes and he threatened Ixania on his own. I haven't whine once I said the yeah part because I though Yani said I was a wanker but now I noticed it wasn't directed towards me.

That's fair, I didn't mean to accuse you personally, as your posts don't seem to be complaining. I just think when people come in and threaten a smaller nation not interested in war for simply imperialist reasons, they should expect a large outcry.

That's fair, I didn't mean to accuse you personally, as your posts don't seem to be complaining. I just think when people come in and threaten a smaller nation not interested in war for simply imperialist reasons, they should expect a large outcry.

I get alot of that. I am not surprised that people jumped in to his aid but so many jumping in at once is kind of stupid. That is true overkill. but when we are imperialistic we should know to put up with that crap. So I will be glad to fight off this giant jumble of a bandwagon!

I get alot of that. I am not surprised that people jumped in to his aid but so many jumping in at once is kind of stupid. That is true overkill. but when we are imperialistic we should know to put up with that crap. So I will be glad to fight off this giant jumble of a bandwagon!

And yet you still keep complaining about it and insulting people who joined in. Mind you, I joined because I consider Neo-Ixania a close friend ICly, and I offered my aid to Mephras because I noticed we were on the same side and holding both sides of Skagerrak.

I considered asking Kostemetsia to join in as an ally, but he's 90% FT so that simply wouldn't have worked.

And yet you still keep complaining about it and insulting people who joined in. Mind you, I joined because I consider Neo-Ixania a close friend ICly, and I offered my aid to Mephras because I noticed we were on the same side and holding both sides of Skagerrak.

I considered asking Kostemetsia to join in as an ally, but he's 90% FT so that simply wouldn't have worked.

How is complaining. I haven't whined I have yelled at anyone I am just stating my opinion that having so many people come is a waste when there is such a small threat. Besides Kostemetsia is an ally of mine, close to be exact. He wouldn't fight againsy me. I haven't insulted one person OOCly. I don't care why you joined just shut your mouth and stop making up shit and getting annoyed that we declared a friggen war. It is part of the game so for you to get annoyed at it, say we are wankers, and then continue with a arguement that has been over is just plain annoying and stupid.

why dont we just stop bickering and get to the RP?

I've already offered that a few times I think, but whatever can we please get on with it.

I've already offered that a few times I think, but whatever can we please get on with it.

TG Neo Erusea about the Middle East CLaims thread.

In order to stop furthur lopsidesness I propose the RP be closed now for any additional supporters to NI, as for any furthur supporters to Mal, we should review and decide on a case by case basis.

The RP should continue, once Leasath corrects his godmode. If he fails to do so, I see no reason why any of us should roleplay with him.

I plan a defensive war. I don't plan to attack at all unless anyone attacks me first. As a matter of fact, I may betray Neo-Ixania. Jayate is acting in the interests of itself. But remember that this is an OOC post, so you didn't hear/read it in IC.

To Commander Zachary Halder

Hello dear sir. Would you like a tour of Hell before you go down to it? For you will definitely need one if you step into this conflict for in less than an hour you will find a bullet lodged into your throat doesn't heal easily and unlike the movie propaganda crap, the good guys don't always win. This would be an example of that.

OOC: Why are you sending a message to one of my Artillery officers? What he thinks doesn't mean squat to what happens with the rest of the Army; he's a comparative no-ranker. Just for future reference, Commander in my military is equivilent to Major. A Field Marshal is running the Army. Your also contacting officers on the wrong front, unless the Black Sea and the Baltic are magically linked somehow.

Ummm....so the Fedral Union's navy is already bearing down on Denmark and Norway?

Ummm....so the Fedral Union's navy is already bearing down on Denmark and Norway?

I think so...

OOC: Why are you sending a message to one of my Artillery officers? What he thinks doesn't mean squat to what happens with the rest of the Army; he's a comparative no-ranker. Just for future reference, Commander in my military is equivilent to Major. A Field Marshal is running the Army. Your also contacting officers on the wrong front, unless the Black Sea and the Baltic are magically linked somehow.

Had no idea who he was but it said Commander so I message him. Didn't know. And also I am coming from a different position than MAl and Leastah.

No his is in the Baltic. I am in the Black Sea...

Just makin' sure and clearing that up. Thanks guys.

I think so...

Isn't that a bit of a godmod, for him to appear that quickly?

Isn't that a bit of a godmod, for him to appear that quickly?

Well, what else would have happened? I doubt you would have gotten an 'uber-fleetz0r' or something...>_>

Isn't that a bit of a godmod, for him to appear that quickly?

Not really, there is no way to tell how far his nation is from the conflict. He could be as far as Greenland for all we know, he could be as far as the moon seeing how large the NS world can be.

Also, I am retconning that my forces were ten minutes to deployment so that I can go on and engage Ixania's naval forces in the Black Sea several hundred kilometers out, seems fairer to him that way.

N-I, TG me any IM service you have please.

Isn't that a bit of a godmod, for him to appear that quickly?

Not really, there is no way to tell how far his nation is from the conflict. He could be as far as Greenland for all we know, he could be as far as the moon seeing how large the NS world can be.

Also, I am retconning that my forces were ten minutes to deployment so that I can go on and engage Ixania's naval forces in the Black Sea several hundred kilometers out, seems fairer to him that way.

Well, I would err towards it being a godmod in terms that he set out and then attacked in the same post, giving Mephras hardly any time to actually get a defense going. By contrast, I haven't heard back ICly from N-I yet so I'm not even inbound yet really; and after that there'll be a bit more time yet. Good that you're moving back to start from farther out though, since yes that is vastly fairer overall.

Still working up my own details, and it'll be a while until I show ICly in any case. TFU, TG, some things to work out if we're going to be on opposite sides here.

Well, what else would have happened? I doubt you would have gotten an 'uber-fleetz0r' or something...>_>

Not really, there is no way to tell how far his nation is from the conflict. He could be as far as Greenland for all we know, he could be as far as the moon seeing how large the NS world can be.


That wasn't exactly my concern. I had considered your (Maldorians) fleet to be off my coast somewhat, and had planned to engage with rather limited forces, but using the same logic, I could have called up at least something from my homeland, and any and all offers of support, which appeared before the post could be already in the straits, helping me fortify my lands.

That wasn't exactly my concern. I had considered your (Maldorians) fleet to be off my coast somewhat, and had planned to engage with rather limited forces, but using the same logic, I could have called up at least something from my homeland, and any and all offers of support, which appeared before the post could be already in the straits, helping me fortify my lands.

I'm after Northern Rangeria, not nessecarily you...But, oh well. War is war, eh?

Mephras, Maldorians...

Mephras, I sent you an IC message telling that Northern Rangeria will help keep Skagerrak tightly sealed. I'm still waiting response to that...

Wrong thread.

Imperial Scandinvan Decree

In assistance of our allies of Mokastana and Yanitaria we hereby declare that any attacks upon their forces shall result in a immediate and decisive Scandinvan against the nation of Maldorians.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida

Wrong thread...

And man, we are in the bloody GIA! Grand Imperial Alliance! I have it in my bloody, fucking signature.

God man! I thought we were cool *link to GIA* (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536941)

Is anyone currently in the Skagerrak or near it? Tell me now, because I'm about to ICly move into the entrance.

Mephras, Maldorians...

Mephras, I sent you an IC message telling that Northern Rangeria will help keep Skagerrak tightly sealed. I'm still waiting response to that...

I just tried to respond to everyone with one communique, although I'll go back and address your issues independently. Please bear with me, as i'm quite new to this military thing.

Article 2:
1. That all alliance members agree to honor the respective sovereignty and boundaries of other members.
2. That every single member shall their best to aide the other members of the alliance during cases of rebellion, invasion, or civil war. (This is subject to interpretation by the Governing Council.)
3. That no member commits any act of sabotage, war, or violation of sovereignty.
4. All members maintain diplomatic discussion with other members in the case of conflict, until it is appealed to the Governing Council.


"how about, you "remind" him about the treaty since really he is betraying his own charter" ~Leasath.

Scandinvans, I really don't get it.

Actually, could everybody on N-I's side please TG me their IM addresses?

Is anyone currently in the Skagerrak or near it? Tell me now, because I'm about to ICly move into the entrance.

Northern Rangeria is there for certain, blocking the passage and telling the Maldorians to piss off ;) And unless I've misunderstood completely, I had the idea that Mephras was also blocking said passage.

Northern Rangeria is there for certain, blocking the passage and telling the Maldorians to piss off ;) And unless I've misunderstood completely, I had the idea that Mephras was also blocking said passage.


What? You said you were in the Nowegian Sea!

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/3/3f/300px-Norwegian_Sea_map.png

Northern Rangeria is there for certain, blocking the passage and telling the Maldorians to piss off ;) And unless I've misunderstood completely, I had the idea that Mephras was also blocking said passage.

Good, posting! And TPF, I don't have IM D:.

EDIT: WAIT, WHO'S WHERE? D:<

What I understood is that Maldorians decided to go around the strait to the North. I am in the strait, blocking any entrance.

Good, posting! And TPF, I don't have IM D:.

EDIT: WAIT, WHO'S WHERE? D:<

Damn...I think I'm blind or something. I could've sworn Northern Rangeria was to the west of Norway.


EDIT: I am taking the NORWEGIAN SEA TOWARDS THE BARENTS SEA.

Intial Mokan Deployment:

Battle Division: (3)
20,000 Standard Infantry
1,000 APCs (12,000)
1,000 IFVs (8,000)
600 T-90S MBT
300 LY6 Werewolf Assault Guns
50 Iron Heart Command post
100 Shepard Ironhearts
300 AH-64D Apache Longbow
300 205mm Artillery (tri-mobile)
300 LY300 Multiple Rocket System
9,000 Transport Trucks

Air Attack Flotilla (3)
1x Nietzsche Class Super Dreadnought
2x Nimitz-class supercarriers
2x Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carriers
15x Arleigh Burke class destroyer
15xZumwalt-class destroyer
20x Hobart Class Air Destroyer
8x Seawolf Class Attack Subs
40 x RQ-8B Fire Scouts
10x CH-53 Sea Stallions
10 x HM1 Merlins
20 x SH-60 Seahawks
150x F-18 Super Hornets
100x Su-33s or F-35s
40x EA-18G Growler

Wolf Pack Flotilla (2)
20x Seawolf class attack submarine
5x Ohio Class Ballistic Missile Submarines

God man! I thought we were cool *link to GIA* (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536941)I am now in conflict, but I have two associate states fighting you and they were bound by alliances to enter the war so I am drawn into it. Also, since when do you count inactive alliances?

Wait TPF...get on IRC, that shall be mai IM D:<

Wait TPF...get on IRC, that shall be mai IM D:<

lazy!

I am now in conflict, but I have two associate states fighting you and they were bound by alliances to enter the war so I am drawn into it. Also, since when do you count inactive alliances?

1) What? That doesn't make sense. One side has some of your allies and well as the other side. So, you would intervene on one side and fight your own ally? Hypocritical?

2) The alliance may be inactive, but that doesn't mean it is terminated. I read the 3 pages and yes, there was talks of it being dead, but nowhere did I see you say, "GIA=Broken apart". I was proud to be part of the GIA, but now knowing that the leader and founder of the alliance turns against its own members, I am a bit...worried. A perfect example; the CA. We are dead as hell. But look, we still aid each other under the name of the CA. Dead? No. Alive? Yes.

Man, I was betrayed by my own alliance leader and the one who wrote the whole-damned charter...>_<


Also, I edited my post. Northern Rangeria, you can edit yours as well...

"how about, you "remind" him about the treaty since really he is betraying his own charter" ~Leasath.

Scandinvans, I really don't get it.

Well, I did ask him. And he's not committing an act of war unless you attack the territories of either Mokastana or I.

Oh, and btw, like I said earlier, my planes will be flying from his airfields in the colony there. Think of it as something like MiG Alley.

Well, I did ask him. And he's not committing an act of war unless you attack the territories of either Mokastana or I.

Oh, and btw, like I said earlier, my planes will be flying from his airfields in the colony there. Think of it as something like MiG Alley.

It is still hypcritical, nonetheless...And also, stop calling in more nations!

what a tangled web we weave, allies of allies fighting allies, hence leading to utter destruction. Im just glad the FU and the confederacy are on the same page, and to think I was about to ask to join ADAN...

1) What? That doesn't make sense. One side has some of your allies and well as the other side. So, you would intervene on one side and fight your own ally? Hypocritical?

2) The alliance may be inactive, but that doesn't mean it is terminated. I read the 3 pages and yes, there was talks of it being dead, but nowhere did I see you say, "GIA=Broken apart". I was proud to be part of the GIA, but now knowing that the leader and founder of the alliance turns against its own members, I am a bit...worried. A perfect example; the CA. We are dead as hell. But look, we still aid each other under the name of the CA. Dead? No. Alive? Yes.

Man, I was betrayed by my own alliance leader and the one who wrote the whole-damned charter...>_<


Also, I edited my post. Northern Rangeria, you can edit yours as well...I never even openly said war, I carefully worded it so as to say that I will measures against, quickly, and I am going through diplomatic channels.

*sigh*

Do we really have to argue about this? You ripped up your own charter in which you once protected. You permit "action" against your own ally, in which of Article 4 states that you would try to aid that nation....I don't get what we are arguing; we both know that you kicked, defiled, and embarrased the name of that alliance and those members in it...

Imperial Scandinvan Decree

In assistance of our allies of Mokastana and Yanitaria we hereby declare that any attacks upon their forces shall result in a immediate and decisive Scandinvan action against the nation of Maldorians.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida

1) What kind of action? Nukes? War? Send us $1 billion dollars? :D

2) You edited your post at 9:27 p.m....

What an interesting and devastating war this will be...

YIPPEE!!!

(tap dances on a land mine)

Sorry if I was harsh, The Scandinvans, it's just that all my so-called "allies" ditch me and turn sides against me. This damned bandwaggoning has to stop. I look at the thread, and *poof*, another nation helps out! What are the sides, like 4 to 100? Seriously guys, if you dolts want a war so badly, then have a bloody civil war, or invade yourself! >: ( Every day, another flock of "allies wanting to lend a hand" or "friends who hate bad guys!" arrive.

Yay, the Justice League is coming to stomp down on bad guys!!!!

>_>

YIPPEE!!!

(tap dances on a land mine)

OOC: Interesting enough :cool:

Im here because we the Fegosian Union declared support to Neo, then I see Yanitaria assisting, and that was every major alliance I am in. I was half expecting Anagor and OK-LA-HO-MA to show up...

Though this has already been gone over, I feel I should mention my reasons for involvement also.

1) Extremely close ties to Yanitaria - I'm talking like my government would be willing to allow Orbath to nearly crumble before it didn't help Yanitaria, Orbathians are fiercely loyal to their nation and allies.

2) Greston's Involvement - My government has been looking for revenge on Greston for various secretive attacks that occurred in another conflict. I was staging an assassination attempt but the war thread that was being used as a front collapsed.

Oh and TPF, no IM either, sorry.

Why don't you stop fucking whining Mal? Its fair game, you invade somebody you better expect to deal with allies. God, no wonder I don't do random roleplays anymore, they all turn into whiny, noobish, bitchfests like this one. The wank here is appalling, and if I were N-I i'd ignore.

OOC: Interesting enough :cool:

yeah aerosmith popped in my head and it fit...(song is Rag Doll)

*slaps head*

This is exactly what I mean. It's not that I don't want you guys in, it's just that there is absolutely no organization whatsoever. People who wish to help either side should TG me or Neo-Ixania. It's just that this lack of organization is what causes all this OOC strife and IC confusion *of which I just encountered*....Now good-night!

lazy!

Are you on? And do you know wut channel I speaketh of?

Sorry if I was harsh, The Scandinvans, it's just that all my so-called "allies" ditch me and turn sides against me. This damned bandwaggoning has to stop. I look at the thread, and *poof*, another nation helps out! What are the sides, like 4 to 100? Seriously guys, if you dolts want a war so badly, then have a bloody civil war, or invade yourself! >: ( Every day, another flock of "allies wanting to lend a hand" or "friends who hate bad guys!" arrive.

Yay, the Justice League is coming to stomp down on bad guys!!!!

>_>Relax kinda of my fault for not presenting a clear argument and reasoning.

Also, I was planning on kinda of forcing a peace due to the fact two of the warring factions are my allies and I am bigger then a large number of the nation involved put together.:p

Also, I plan on calling a peace confrence where the only thing allowed would be the withdrawal of troops and other forces.

Hey TPF. Wow glad to see that I'm not the only Christian around here in this Godforsaken forums of NationStates. Not to mention another Republican...

Why don't you stop fucking whining Mal? Its fair game, you invade somebody you better expect to deal with allies. God, no wonder I don't do random roleplays anymore, they all turn into whiny, noobish, bitchfests like this one. The wank here is appalling, and if I were N-I i'd ignore.

Seriously, man, shut up. If you wanted to complain, you could've IMed me, eh? It seems that whenever I am, you seem to be...A bit odd, eh? When I was against the NPE, boom, you show up and try to attack my homeland *and fail*. I join Nova Europa. Boom, you arrive... Wank? I've seen one slight argument between Leasath and Yanitaria. Now, if you don't mind, we have an RP to complete.

Hey TPF. Wow glad to see that I'm not the only Christian around here in this Godforsaken forums of NationStates. Not to mention another Republican...

Yeah. General. *Shudders*

Seriously, man, shut up. If you wanted to complain, you could've IMed me, eh? It seems that whenever I am, you seem to be...A bit odd, eh? When I was against the NPE, boom, you show up and try to attack my homeland *and fail*. I join Nova Europa. Boom, you arrive... Wank? I've seen one slight argument between Leasath and Yanitaria. Now, if you don't mind, we have an RP to complete.

Cause you wanked. But that's then and there. This is here and now.

Sorry if I was harsh, The Scandinvans, it's just that all my so-called "allies" ditch me and turn sides against me. This damned bandwaggoning has to stop. I look at the thread, and *poof*, another nation helps out! What are the sides, like 4 to 100? Seriously guys, if you dolts want a war so badly, then have a bloody civil war, or invade yourself! >: ( Every day, another flock of "allies wanting to lend a hand" or "friends who hate bad guys!" arrive.

Yay, the Justice League is coming to stomp down on bad guys!!!!

>_>

So it's cool for you to attack someone much weaker than your combined alliance to attack someone, but when the tables are turned, you are allowed to call foul?

And you call Scand a hypocrite.

Dude, just suck it up and RP, or back out. Choice is yours. We've already closed it to any more of NI's allies, with provisions to allow anyone allied with you.

Though this has already been gone over, I feel I should mention my reasons for involvement also.

1) Extremely close ties to Yanitaria - I'm talking like my government would be willing to allow Orbath to nearly crumble before it didn't help Yanitaria, Orbathians are fiercely loyal to their nation and allies.

2) Greston's Involvement - My government has been looking for revenge on Greston for various secretive attacks that occurred in another conflict. I was staging an assassination attempt but the war thread that was being used as a front collapsed.

Oh and TPF, no IM either, sorry.

I'll remember that, Orbath.

like I said earlier; spliting it up into two theatre's is the best option at the moment IMO so while Greston and Mal + whoever invade from the north (One Thread) the others invade from the south (another thread) since I think that NI has enough defenders in the south anyway yes?

First of all, Mal, when an alliance such as GIA goes inactive for a very long time then most sane RPers consider it dissolved. Posting a notice about disbandment due to inactivity would be self-defeating.

Secondly, I see you've resulted to your usual tactics when you're at an IC disadvantage, and let me say that it's quite pathetic.

Thirdly, I am amused how you have mad the opposite points in the past to the points you are making now.

And lastly, speak for yourself sometime rather than pointing fingers and blaming others.

lolwut aki's here!

Yeah. General. *Shudders*

Well, that makes three of us then.

And Mal, it really is kinda silly to try and invade someone that is several times weaker than you, then get angry because they call on their allies for help. The fact that Neo-Ixania has a ton of allies is a result of how he RP's his nation, and an advantage that he should be able to use. It's rather illogical to attack someone and then get offended when they do something outside of the narrow path that you expect them to IC'ly take.

Reactions like this are part of the risk of being the attacker, and sooner or later you are going to have to accept that an overwhelming response against your military aggresion is going to happen once in a while.


nice to see you around again, Aki.

I believe that, having made my offer to NI in the original "colonisation thread", and having had it accepted by NI, that I am permitted to join.

As if you can keep me out, Maldorians. FYI, there are two reasons that I have taken NI's side: one, I don't like bullies (you and Leasath fit that definition to a T). Two, NI and I have something of a IC history - our empires have notably similar RPing flavours (his is Russian, mine is Byzantine, the whole reason I got into trouble w/NR over Greece). And three, you can't invade other nations and then cry "foul" when people come and help them. If you were to note the sizes of the nations, it's a few BIG nations vs. lots of smaller ones. I believe that I'm the largest of NI's allies, and I'm about 1/4 your size.

Also, I was planning on kinda of forcing a peace due to the fact two of the warring factions are my allies and I am bigger then a large number of the nation involved put together.:p

Also, I plan on calling a peace confrence where the only thing allowed would be the withdrawal of troops and other forces.

I'd be OK with that and even proposed it. In fact I doubt many on Neo Ixiana's side want this war, but if forced, we'll fight. Ix already made concessions by surrendering Britain, I fail to see why he should submit and surrender Russia too.

nice to see you around again, Aki.

I've been around, I've just been lurking.

A'ight, it's all cool. I thought my argument made sense, but apparently not.. I'm fine with whatever you guys send.

I have a fleet traveling north at the Norwegian Sea. Any opposing forces there or can I just start an assault at Archangelsk?

I'd be OK with that and even proposed it. In fact I doubt many on Neo Ixiana's side want this war, but if forced, we'll fight. Ix already made concessions by surrendering Britain, I fail to see why he should submit and surrender Russia too.

I fail to see why we can't just invade Britain as well, and take it back.

Seeing my shock force is badly outnumbered I guess I should prepare to send a much larger force.... Now I'm just wondering how I will pull off the Crimean invasion with a good majority of Ixania's allies posted there....

Seeing my shock force is badly outnumbered I guess I should prepare to send a much larger force.... Now I'm just wondering how I will pull off the Crimean invasion with a good majority of Ixania's allies posted there....

You are not outnumbered. At any one landing site you could choose, you'll outnumber the force there. All you need to do is blitz a concentrated position and move inland while the Yanitarian, Mokastani, and Ottonian troops shift to react.

In any case, by the time your new force gets there, we will have many more soldiers on the ground.

*face fualts, bangs his head on the wall* Can we Please! for the love of that lesbionic whale that is roise odnell, get back to the bloody rp!.

All i see is blah blah blah bitching and not solid story writing or rp, I've posted I expect some one to respond. All this bitching is just making you guys look bad.

you can call it mokan for short

Gah... sorry for this, but I seem to remember someone mentioning a board for Neo-Ixania's allies. I can't remember on which thread I saw it in... So, where to go?

http://z15.invisionfree.com/The_Fegosian_Union/index.php?

Is this what you were looking for?

Yup, that's it.

Thank you.

God can we please stop with this damned bitching. Okay so now how many, I've counted four, people have told Mal the same exact thing that you can't invade then call foul when they get aid. He knows, I know, jsut please shut your bloody mouth!

I fail to see why we can't just invade Britain as well, and take it back.

I asked for Britian and me and Ix did that diplomatically so for you guys to attack would make you guys look exactly what you are supposedly fighting against in this thread.

I asked for Britian and me and Ix did that diplomatically so for you guys to attack would make you guys look exactly what you are supposedly fighting against in this thread.

While I don't really care if Great Britain is returned and would really just be happy if everything stopped as it is, I feel this is a tinge dishonest. He ceded control of his Great Britain colony under threat of invasion by two larger nations. It wasn't exactly a friendly agreement, and was done in hopes of avoiding war, a promise that wasn't kept. It was, as the Russian invasion is, aggression. I suppose an agreement is an agreement, and again, I'd be happy if current territorial claims were recognized and this whole thing would disappear, but I think this needed to be pointed out.

To The Fedral Union: I'm still working on my post, as I said earlier in this or the other thread, even though I'm not completely happy with the one post appearance at my shores.

God can we please stop with this damned bitching. Okay so now how many, I've counted four, people have told Mal the same exact thing that you can't invade then call foul when they get aid. He knows, I know, jsut please shut your bloody mouth!


Whoa, no need to get all bent out of shape over it, I doubt anyone had malicious intent.

Remember, when all is said and done, it is still just a game. We are all here to enjoy a good RP, so let us focus on that, rather than bicker over details.

Perhaps we could just retcon the entire RP in order to avoid more arguements.

Perhaps we could just retcon the entire RP in order to avoid more arguements.

That, or have a bit more order and organization...

That, or have a bit more order and organization...

If we retconned it, we could start it all over again. Discuss it between us and try to come up with something acceptable to all.

If we retconned it, we could start it all over again. Discuss it between us and try to come up with something acceptable to all.

Don't worry, Gres and I have one more post.

Don't worry, Gres and I have one more post.

Are you pulling out then? Is your jihad over?

Are you pulling out then? Is your jihad over?

Yes, at least Gres and I are...unless of your ally members gets a little "trigger-happy"