NationStates Jolt Archive

Alright, my efforts in FT RP so far have been unsuccessful for the most part-- usually I get an opening post going, some subsequent stuff, then things go away forever. My latest attempt, with US, has more or less fallen flat on it's face due to writer's block.

As such, I think I need to rethink my concept a bit. I'll lay out what I currently have and what I want to do, and hopefully some of you folks can provide some input.

Current backstory, in a nutshell: FT Axis Nova came out of the NS War II RP (most people here probably don't remember that, but it was an all-tech war RP done by Hataria that turned out reasonably well). As things were going rather against my side before the RP stalled, I decided to extrapolate off of that: Axis Nova would have been actually destroyed due to losing this war. The majority of the population would have had their consciousnesses digitized and stored in specialized servers, and those remnants left alive would have fled using Star Destroyers given by Casseopiea Galaxy. Due to this, they would have become massive xenophobes. Oh, and since the ships that destroyed Axis Nova were going to be Star Destroyers, the Axis Novan remnants would have a mad-on for Unified Sith for no reason just because he used them.

There are several problems with this:

1. Not really a very good 'origin story'. The RP in question was more silly than serious in any case. and no one ever really tried orbitally bombarding my nation.

2. Xenophobia is not conductive to interacting with people. It's good for NPC antanogists, but it's not good at all for actually RPing with other people.

3. Casseopiea Galaxy doesn't exist anymore (I think TIOR is gone too, he had control last I heard).

4. Star Destroyers arn't capable of intergalactic flight.

5. Tech issues: the stuff I use/used is not in any way related to Star Wars and considering my backstory involved reverse engineering a tech base from said star destroyers... yeah.

What I want to keep from this is making the FT Axis Nova some sort of 'exile'/'wandering' nation without anything in the way of planet-based facilities, and the population mostly being stored bodiless in computers (this was also an excuse to RP with a much lower population than my NS page indicates). One of the things that I had planned to do was make a big deal about how there would be no easy way to get folks back out again into bodies. Of course, the original bodies would be long gone...

There are also some other, more minor issues, mostly based around revising my technology. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=447907) I wanted (and still do want) FT Axis Nova to be more of a 'low-FT' nation-- ship designs are mostly all Earth Alliance stuff from Babylon 5, with no gravity generators, universe-spanning FTL, and no FTL comm, stuff like that. Currently, I have a mishmash of EA ships with Freespace 2 beam cannons, Gundam SEED defensive systems, and random additions, carrying really wierd strike craft. I want to reduce this issue significantly and bring them back to being in a more 'canon' state, at least initially. That part I can mostly handle myself, though I could definitely use more sources for such things sides efni.org and b5tech.com

Basically what I'm looking for here are comments and suggestions on what to do with regards to backstory and so on and so forth. In all honesty, character RPs are usually not my strong point-- I am quite good at describing technical stuff and not so great at describing people.

Battlestar Galactica is an example of low tech FT.

They have FTL drives but still use non-energy based weapons, have no replicators and need tillium fuel for their ships. Combine this with B5 ideas and you'll be onto a winner.

If you want to be xenophobic people could come to you. It'll be simple for someone to run into your planet or a ship that needs help inside your star system.

Given the nature of the Neo Kirisuban exploration ships thats the most likely way we could make contact.

To rebuild a population its possible to tap into anime type ideas. There's cybernetic bodies which look like the real thing in 'Ghost in the Shell'.

Well, you could do what I did, but take a different path with it. I pulled a Halo, and had a massively powerful alien race come in and begin invading, slaughtering, taking everything. In my nation, we reversed engineered their technology, improved it, and then fought them back.

In your case, you could have taken a large fleet and fled, while others remained behind to hold them off and give you time, and then you could go from there.

Hows that?

good inspiration helps once and awhile for your tech needs, I come up with new things all the time by asking "okay what do I need? want? and have to destroy?"

basically to build from the ground up you should look for the bare needed stuff

Frigates- lightly armed patrol of your own space

Destroyers- Moderately armed usual the work horse of a fleet

Cruisers- step up fire power wise from the destroyer more cost but better firepower and so on

battleships- heavy capital ship less of these would be in your fleet

carriers- capital ship carrying fighters/bombers and/or gunships

Support ships (IE supplies): these are your fuel, ammo and supply shipments simple as that

now thats basic and i know your no noob my sugestion would be make a carrier hybrid out of some classes, like a carrier/battleship hybrid so you have fire power and support from aircraft.

Personally about 90% of the ships i have are a carrier/________ hybrid making sure i have a good wide array of support for a ship.

Weapons wise you have choices, Energy or Ballistics?

Energy you got lasers, PDL's, plasma cannons ext...

Ballistics you got missiles, rail guns, cannons machine guns, and other kenetic energy weapons

its really up to you what weapons you use

You could always goof off in Icewind Dale with Auman, Xenonier, Derscon, The Island States, and myself. We're rewriting our history from scratch, though the active RP is at the year 1902 at the moment. We'll get back to FT with a common well thought out and hopefully plothole free history soon enough.

While I do not trust it 100% everything I do is base off of it. Lots of numbers, but explained in simple words. This site is for everyone.

http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/index.html

Come and see the wonders of the universe!

Some Star Trek stuff is fairly low-tech (not the replicators and all, but matter-antimatter, for instance - that's not just low-tech, it's feasible), so that's not a bad option to look into. Babylon 5 is a great hub, as is Halo's UNSC and bits and pieces of the Covenant (obviously not the ships, but things like the wheeled Choppers and the like). Parts of Gundam Seed aren't exactly the most advanced stuff in the world, or if you bastardized Transformers you could probaly make it work with Artificial Intelligence (or as automated war machines).

I don't intend to go away from using EA stuff; I brought up the technical stuff mostly to point out one problem with my RPing (as of just now I have returned the thread to more or less canon B5 stuff).

The way I want to do things is start off with my nation -already- in space-- not being kicked off a planet, but already kicked off/left/whatever, if that makes any sense.

Yeah that makes sense, your basically a people without a home

Exactly-- and what I need to do is figure out why. It doesn't need to be the Silmarillion, but it does need to be better than what I have.

You could always goof off in Icewind Dale with Auman, Xenonier, Derscon, The Island States, and myself. We're rewriting our history from scratch, though the active RP is at the year 1902 at the moment. We'll get back to FT with a common well thought out and hopefully plothole free history soon enough.

That's a horrible idea.

That's a horrible idea.

Care to explain why?

Care to explain why?

Well, firstly, you would be interacting with Auman, which s a horrible idea in and of itself. Secondly, RPing with the lot of them is VERY similar to RPing with a coherent version of TFU and Sephrioth, threads so suffused with wank as to be utterly unplayable. They are very much NOT the Hard(ish) FT you desire to play.

You could always make one of those cases where some kind of failed FTL jump or something (doesn't matter what caused it, what matters is that something caused it) made a fleet of your "nation" disappear from their own dimension/whatever and show up here on the NS scene. Then you could play around with that as much as you want; was it a fleet full of people who were kicked out of the homeworld(s) of your supposed nation who had this massive failure happen or some military fleet or what? That way, even the year it happened wouldn't really matter, and you could write whatever you want about their past. :p Flesh it out from scratch rather than revision anything.

Sure, that kind of thing doesn't work for everyone, but it's a way to get things started without having to worry about things like where they came originally right off.

You could always make one of those cases where some kind of failed FTL jump or something (doesn't matter what caused it, what matters is that something caused it) made a fleet of your "nation" disappear from their own dimension/whatever and show up here on the NS scene. Then you could play around with that as much as you want; was it a fleet full of people who were kicked out of the homeworld(s) of your supposed nation who had this massive failure happen or some military fleet or what? That way, even the year it happened wouldn't really matter, and you could write whatever you want about their past. :p Flesh it out from scratch rather than revision anything.

Sure, that kind of thing doesn't work for everyone, but it's a way to get things started without having to worry about things like where they came originally right off.

Speaking of playing around, check your TGs. >.>

Just as I was about to reply to your TG, the NS site stopped responding. :eek:

Weird.

Just as I was about to reply to your TG, the NS site stopped responding. :eek:

Weird.

It is the ever-monsterous brother of the NSUN...dun-dun-dun..

Hmmm...I'd say RP with me, but 1. I'm divvied into too many RPs as it is, and 2. we'd end up going to war within minutes. XD

Just as I was about to reply to your TG, the NS site stopped responding. :eek:

Weird.

It's working again now.

It's working again now.

How can you be so sure?

Well, firstly, you would be interacting with Auman, which s a horrible idea in and of itself. Secondly, RPing with the lot of them is VERY similar to RPing with a coherent version of TFU and Sephrioth, threads so suffused with wank as to be utterly unplayable. They are very much NOT the Hard(ish) FT you desire to play.

Says the guy who disappeared from NS entirely for the greater part of a year after he was forced to play by the rules that he himself had set for ship quality and being outnumbered.

So, how's that post coming?

It's working again now.

Yep, I noticed that too and sent my reply. Had to rewrite it because I forgot to copy the old one somewhere (and I managed to close the window where it was).

its NS, site dies once and awhile just need to let the techies kick the server a couple times to get it working

Says the guy who disappeared from NS entirely for the greater part of a year after he was forced to play by the rules that he himself had set for ship quality and being outnumbered.

So, how's that post coming?

I left because I used to work from about 5:30 am, until between 3, and ten PM. That being said, it was at most a few months(say, 3-4 max) as I simply gave up interacting with you and your ilk, because you're all pains in the ass with no sense, and I had no freaking time, or desire to read your eyebleeding wank. Moving on, I started RPing again in...september-octoberish, under a different name. Now, unless you're going to lie through your teeth and say that you're anywhere near a reasonable tech level, and not simply wanking like a teen with a free Pent, I believe this is settled. If I'm unwilling to play with you because you wank, I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say Axis Nova isn't either, he has higher standards, as a rule, than I do.

I left because I used to work from about 5:30 am, until between 3, and ten PM. That being said, it was at most a few months(say, 3-4 max) as I simply gave up interacting with you and your ilk, because you're all pains in the ass with no sense, and I had no freaking time, or desire to read your eyebleeding wank.

Funny, we were using the rules for that RP that you yourself had set. The only problem is that I'm better at playing by those rules than you are. You owned yourself with your rules lawyering and OOC whining and can't even be man enough to admit it it.

Funny how it's only wank when it's being used against you. It's also funny how you're the only person in the history of NS that can't pull together a single post in the span of four months because of a day job. All of us on my side of the table had jobs too, you know.

Detracting from the issue at hand, I think. We wouldn't want to put Axis Nova off of FT with this lovely little show of bickering and insult, would we?

Detracting from the issue at hand, I think. We wouldn't want to put Axis Nova off of FT with this lovely little show of bickering and insult, would we?

Of course not. I simply can't allow someone to get away with such slander and cowardice.

*Whacks MM and Bryn Shander into orbit with my paper fan of doom*

"MM and Bryn no baka! Take your argument somewhere else!"

Now that that's done, I'm looking forward to what you produce, Axis Nova, and to RPing with you again. It was fun at NS Wars and it'll be fun again.

*punts MM and Bryn Shander out of his thread*

Basically what I'm looking for here are comments and suggestions on what to do with regards to backstory and so on and so forth. In all honesty, character RPs are usually not my strong point-- I am quite good at describing technical stuff and not so great at describing people.

War breeds technology. Think of all the advances in human history. Wars push forward technological advances.

Now...you want your race to be nomads? Perfect. Write a backstory that a huge war happened. Invasion perhaps? Civil War? Bloodthirsty dictator that took every effort to defeat? Either way this war would have ruined your homework, (Think Titan A.E. for a moment, although less overdramatic and animated.) and forced your people to take to the stars, living in ship colonies and the like.

Due to lack of home and specific resources and such, your ships should look like pieced together components of tons of different ships. No two should be alike. If a ship needs repaired, you go find or buy parts at a Tatooine-like market.

If you want to go that route, I think it would be a cool part to play. Your people could be "searching for a home" or simply content with living like space cowboys. Up to you, of course, but you said you wanted ideas.