NationStates Jolt Archive


In search of Advanced Weapons

Bedouin Raiders
22-03-2008, 22:39
To: All interested nations
Concerning: New advanced weapons

The Military High Command is in search of new weapons to replace our older weapons. We will accept all applicants and will review their weapons and decide which one to purchase. The winner of each category will recieve a $15,000,000 bonus for their entry. Here are the weapons we are looking to replace(included is the size of the order that will be given to the winner. Price of each weapon will be considered. Entries are required to have specs with them.)

Assault Rifle:
-Weapon to be replaced is the AK-74
-Required Specs:
Ammuntition used
Barrel Length
Weapon Weight
Clip Size
Rate of Fire
Range
Sights
-Order to be placed is 100,000 copies

Light Machine Gun
-Weapon to be replaced is the M-60
-Required Specs:
Ammunition used
Barrel Length
Rate of Fire
Weapon Weight
Belt length
Clip Size(if applicable)
Range
Sights
-Order to be placed is 30,000 copies

Light Anti-Tank Weapon
-Weapon to be replaced is the RPG-7
-Required Specs:
Range
Warhead Size
Launcher Wieght
Rate of Fire
Sights
-Order to be placed is 10,000 Launchers and 100,00 Warheads

Sub-Machien Gun:
-Weapon previously used is the Uzi
-Required Specs:
Ammunition used
Range
Rate of Fire
Weapon Weight
Clip Size
Sights
-Order to be palced is 50,000 Copies
1010102
22-03-2008, 23:03
The Binarian Amrament Exportation Corporation can provide the weaponry, you are interested in upgrading to.

Assualt Rifle:

M-12 Export Assualt Rifle
Weight: Weight 1.97 kg (empty)
3.756 kg (loaded, with sling)
Length 736 mm
Barrel length 475 mm
Cartridge: 6.6 mm x 49 mm
Action: gas operated, rotating bolt
Rate of fire: 550—760 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity: 900 m/s
Max. Effective range: 350 meters
Maximum range 3600m
Feed system: 30 round magazine
Sights: Standard iron sight
Fire Modes: 3 round burst semi auto, Full Auto

Based on the M-8 Bullpup Battle Rifle, the M-12 is designed soley for export to nations in the grip of civil strife. It is a lighter, cheaper version made of stamped steel and as few moving parts as possible. This allows for easy cleaning and disassebly.

Price
Rifle-1,000 USD
Ammo: 600 USD per 1000 rounds
DPR
Rifle-300 million USD
Ammo-N/A

The M-12 Export Assualt rifle is designed around the 6.6x49mm round. This round is designed as a compromise between the range of 5.56x45mm NATO and the stopping power of the 7.62x39mm Russian.




Anti-tank Weapon:

M-4 Binar's Hammer
Length:
1.1 m (42.6 in) missile.
1.2 m (47.2 in) launch tube.
Diameter:
135 mm missile.
145 mm launch tube.
Weight:
18.21kg missile.
7.5 kg Launcher.
Warhead:
14 kg tandem shaped charge HEAT.
13 kg Fragmentation warhead
10 kg Incendiary warhead
Armour penetration (after reactive armor effects) >2600 mm
Reinforced concrete or brick >5,300 mm
Log and earth fortification: 14,100 mm
Range:
50 to 4500 m
Guidance system: Imaging infra-red guidance,

Launch Unit:
Passive target acquisition/fire control with integrated day/thermal sight.
Magnification 4x optical and 4x or 10x thermal.

Backround:
Named after the Acient Binarian God Binar, who is credited with founding the Binarian Nation and the first ruler of the Binarian People. He was the God of War, Conquest, Famine and Death.

PPU: 50,000 USD
DPR: 10 Million USD
Volzgrad
22-03-2008, 23:11
To: Bedouin Raiders
From: Volzgrad

Assault Rifle:
Name: CM-74
Ammunition: 7.62mm
Barrel Length: 317mm
Weapon Weight: 3.21kg
Clip Size: 30 round standard "banana clip" or 20 round officer clip
Rate of Fire: 750 rounds per minute
Range: 600 yards
Sights: ACOG scope, can be removed for close combat

The CM-74 is almost visually identical to the AMD-65 assault rifle (pic http://www.ultimak.com/pic5a.htm). It has a standard issue forward grip to increase accuracy and reduce weapon bob. All CM-74s have a folding stock which allows the CM-74 to be a sub machine gun as well. The CM-74 comes standard with a 30 round banana clip, but officers above the rank of lieutenant are issued a 20 round officer clip. The CM-74 comes equipped with a standard ACOG scope for firing on distant targets. The weapon is durable and extremely reliable (think AK-47 reliability). It can be easily manufactured since it is made of solid sheet steel.

Light Machine Gun:
Name: PMG-22
Ammunition: 8mm
Barrel Length: 658mm
Rate of Fire: 700 rounds per minute
Weapon Weight: 8 kg
Belt Length: 300 rounds
Clip Size: 100 rounds
Range: 1000m
Sights: Iron sights, can be replaced by an ACOG scope.
The PMG-22 is very similar to Russian light machine guns (here is a pic http://www.frontlineswar.com/?page=image&cat=weapons&image=RS_HM). It has standard issue iron sights, but an ACOG scope can be attached. The PMG-22 is very reliable and durable since it is made of stamped steel. It has a lower rate of fire than the CM-74, but makes up for it with its more powerful 8mm round. The PMG-22 usually uses 100 round drum clips, but a 300 round belt can be attached for more ammunition. Like all other Volzgradien equipment, the PMG-22 is easy to manufacture and maintain, but also deadly accurate and fast firing.
Leafanistan
22-03-2008, 23:36
General Resources Conglomerate

We at the General Resources Conglomerate greet and welcome the Bedouin Raiders. We humbly offer fine Leafanistani-made and Foreign-made Goods to help your esteemed nation defend itself.

Assault Rifle:
-Weapon to be replaced is the AK-74
-Required Specs:
Ammuntition used
Barrel Length
Weapon Weight
Clip Size
Rate of Fire
Range
Sights
-Order to be placed is 100,000 copies

We offer for your consideration is the AK-165, a modern Kalashnikov Derivative chambered for the 6.5mm Grendel.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13012363&postcount=595
Automat Kalashnikova Model 6.5 Grendel: AK-165 Grendel

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8086/ak68sz8.jpg

Using the proven AK as the model for a new version chambered for the superior ballistics of the 6.5 Grendel, the AK-165 is the next generation of affordable, yet high quality rifles.

The AK-165 was designed to use the high performing qualities of Western arms with its 3 Picatinny rails, mounted left, right and top center, allow the use of dozens of after-market accessories like scopes, laser sights, or even advanced ballistic computer sights found on newer assault rifles, colloquially called 'SmartGun' systems. Its design is also meant to ease logistical concerns for militaries that are seeking a major arms upgrade without wishing to spend a lot of money retraining their men on the use of different guns.

The same proven Kalashnikov action and machinery is still present, ensuring that even armies with even basic understanding of how to use an AK-47 will be able to use the AK-165.

The new ammunition is what makes the AK-165 an exciting choice for armies seeking to advance themselves. The Grendel is an ideal middle ground between the 5.56 mm NATO and the 7.62 mm NATO and their Warsaw Pact counterparts the 5.45 mm R and the 7.62 mm R, taking the best attributes of each. It has a flatter trajectory and retains greater terminal energy at extended ranges than either of these cartridges due to its higher ballistic coefficient. Production rifles have consistently achieved sub–minute of arc (MOA) groups at test ranges out past 600 meters. All of this means the AK-165 will blow away your soldiers on its improved performance and will certainly blow away your enemies when they think they are safe.

Weight: 3.4 kg
Length: 943 mm
Barrel length: 415 mm
Calibre : 6.5 Grendel
Action: Gas operated rotating bolt with 2 lugs
Rate of fire: 700 rpm
Muzzle velocity: 765 m/s
Effective range: up to 600 m (area)
Feed system: 30 rounds bakelite magazines

400 USD

Light Machine Gun
-Weapon to be replaced is the M-60
-Required Specs:
Ammunition used
Barrel Length
Rate of Fire
Weapon Weight
Belt length
Clip Size(if applicable)
Range
Sights
-Order to be placed is 30,000 copies

For your light machine gun category, we offer either the PKP Pecheneg, which is a medium machine gun in the same vein as the M60 and is a belt feeding weapon.

The Pecheneg is borne out of Russian experience in Afghanistan and Chechnya suppressing insurgent forces. It is a forced air-cooling machine gun and can fire up to 600 rounds continuously before overheating. Its large round is effective over a kilometer away and can penetrate the soft cover of buildings insurgents typically use.

Caliber: 7.62x54mm R
Weight: 8.7 kg on bipod; 12.7 kg on infantry tripod mount
Length: 1155 mm
Length of barrel: 658 mm
Feeding: belt, 100 or 200 rounds
Rate of fire: 650 rpm
Effective Range: 1200 m
Sights: Iron,

However, because of its heavy weight, inability to effectively hip-fire and belt loading mechanism, we feel that the modern mobile military needs a solution that can either use clips or large drums for faster ammo changing.

For that reason, we offer the RPK-165, another Leafanistani-made modification to the RPK-74, which will bring the superior ballistics of the 6.5mm Grendel together with the reliability of the RPK series of weapons and share part commonality with the AK-165.

Another advantage is the RPK-165 can take all accessories (excluding underbarrel grenade launcher) that the AK-165 can accept.

RPK-165, Next Generation Light Machine Gun

http://www.imagepup.com/up/VJv1_1206223670-RPK74M.jpg

Sharing over 60% part commonality with the AK-165, the RPK-165 is designed to provide the powerful high rate of fire necessary in a light machine gun/squad automatic weapon, together with the superior ballistics of the 6.5mm Grendel, together in a proven design that uses clip loading mechanism to provide a fast swap. The advantages of clip loading is that it takes far less time to reload the weapon, and the trooper can also borrow clips from his partners.

Caliber: 6.5 Grendel
Weight: 4.7 kg empty
Length: 1060 mm
Length of barrel: 590 mm
Feeding box magazine: 45 rounds/30 round AK-165/75 round prototype drum
Rate of fire: 600 rpm

Price: 2,500 USD

For your consideration as entry into the anti-tank weapon category, we offer two choices again. One is the newest Israeli manufactured Anti-Tank Guided Missile, the Spike (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_%28missile%29).

Light Anti-Tank Weapon
-Weapon to be replaced is the RPG-7
-Required Specs:
Range
Warhead Size
Launcher Wieght
Rate of Fire
Sights
-Order to be placed is 10,000 Launchers and 100,00 Warheads

The Spike missile is a multifunction missile with day and night action and via the Tycoon Digital Battlefield Kit it can link it and many other units together as one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpJZKrSACoA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCJYRLWF9cA

Range: 800 to 8,000 m depending on model
Warhead Size: 9 kg, Tandem Shaped Charge HEAT
Missile in canister: 33 kg
Launcher: 55 kg
Launcher + 4 missiles: 187 kg
Tripod: 3 kg
Rate of Fire: Ready to launch in 30 seconds, reload in 15 seconds
Sights: Command Launch Unit: Capable of: Infrared homing/Fire and Forget - Electro Optical (CCD, IR or Dual CCD/IIR), Passive CCD or dual CCD/IIR seeker
Price: 10,000 USD

However, if you wish to field a smaller reusable launcher in the same category as the RPG-7 we recommend you stay with your current launcher, which we do offer as the Chinese copy the Type 69 at a cost of only 400 USD.

Sub-Machien Gun:
-Weapon previously used is the Uzi
-Required Specs:
Ammunition used
Range
Rate of Fire
Weapon Weight
Clip Size
Sights
-Order to be palced is 50,000 Copies

For your SMG needs we recommend the G4 Machine Pistol, (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11219173&postcount=1) manufactured by Asperitas and sold by us via the General Resources Conglomerate Storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525224).

Caliber: .45 ASP Caseless Also Available in - (5.7/4.7x39 Caseless AS)
Overall Length Stock Extendde/Un-Extended: 25/11 Inches
Folding Stock Length: 1 foot
Barrel Length: 7.2 Inches
Muzzle Velocity: 2,905 FPS
Weight (Unloaded/Without Balancing Weight Rods): 5.5 Lbs
Rate of Fire: Fastest Clock: 2000 RPM
Normal Clock: 800 RPM
Magazine Size: 40 Rounds Standard Magazine, or 20 round ultra-compact magazine, or 140 Round Beta C-Mag, or 80 Round Extended Mag.
Modes of Fire: Semi-Auto, Full-Auto, Safety, and 2 Rnd Burst
Effective Range: 320 Meters
Sights: Iron, but any that can fit on its tactical rails
Price: 2000 USD
Leafanistan
22-03-2008, 23:41
EDIT: Double posted.
Bedouin Raiders
23-03-2008, 05:51
OCC: Will be updated regularly

Leaders so far:
Assault rifle-leafanistan AK-165
LMG-Volzgrad PMG-22
Light Anti-Tank WEapon-leafanisatan SPIKE missle
SMG-leafanistan G4 machine pistol
Volzgrad
23-03-2008, 06:10
OOC: The CM-74 costs $1000 USD, the PMG-22 costs $1200 USD, and the PPSH-88 costs $800 USD.

Sub Machine Gun
Name: PPSH-88
Ammunition Used: 5mm "shredder"
Range: 150m
Rate of Fire: 850 rounds per minute
Weapon Weight: 2.6 kg
Clip Size: 50 round drum clip
Sights: Iron, can be replaced with red dot sight
Design: http://www.davesguns.com/serverpics/UsedPage/KelTecRailDrum-01.jpg
An extremely fearsome addition to a soldier's close combat arsenal. With a 50 round drum clip, the PPSH-88 can absolutely blanket enemies with bullets. It uses a special 5mm "Shredder" round which is a standard bullet covered with fin like blades on the sides. The round is designed to impact the target then tumble inside their body for maximum damage. Even though the bullet has little armor piercing, the PPSH-88 can simply shred any opponent within 25 yards and cause significant damage to any targets further away. Like all other Volzgradien firearms, the PPSH-88 is reliable, easy to maintain, powerful, and durable. It is also easy to manufacture since it is made from stamped steel.
Roma V
23-03-2008, 06:24
LDI (Logistics Defense Incorporated) has heard you are seeking a number of different weapon types to replace your current standard issue weapons. Currently, we have a number of weapons available to suit your need for more advanced weapons.

To replace your Assault Rifles, we offer our most sought after weapon, the Jupiter TZ21 Carbine.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j..._02_t9m162.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2005
Maximum Range: 300 m
Weight: 3.8 kg (8.4 lb) empty, 4.3 kg (9.5 lb) loaded
Length: 33 in (838 mm) (stock extended)
Barrel length: 368 mm (14.5 in)
Rate of Fire: 700–950 round/min
Cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: Various STANAG Magazines.
Sights: Rear sights, brass deflector, forward assist and equipable with optical sights

The current price of the Jupiter TZ21 is $2,450 standard USD.

To replace your current Submachine Gun we have a number of weapons available to you.

Y43
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...3_09_mt-g3.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2001
Maximum Range: 200-300 m
Weight: 3.56 kg (7.8 lb)
Length: 720 mm (28.3 in) stock extended
Barrel length: 263 mm (10.4 in)
Cartridge: 6x35mm
Rate of Fire: 700 rounds/min
Action: Roller-delayed blowback
Feed system: 30-round detachable box magazine
Sights: Iron sights

The current price of a single Y43 is $1,600 USD

GT-15
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...802/sim520.jpg
First Working Prototype: 1987
Maximum Range: 25 to 100 m sight adjustments
Weight: 3.10 kg (6.83 lb)
Length: 830 mm (32.7 in)
Barrel length: 332 mm (13.1 in)
Cartridge: 9x19mm Parabellum
Rate of Fire: 900 rounds/min
Action: Roller-delayed blowback, closed bolt
Feed system: 15 or 30-round detachable box magazine
Sights: Iron sights

The single price of a single GT-15 is $1,950 USD.

MP54
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/-x7.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2001
Maximum Range: 200-300 m
Weight: 3.56 kg (7.8 lb)
Length: 487.68 (19.2 in)
Barrel length: 146 mm (7.7 in)
Cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Rate of Fire: 700 rounds/min
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: STANAG magazines
Sights: Iron sights, red dot sight

The price of a single MP54 is $1,480 USD.

MR3
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...1010079a-1.jpg
First Working Prototype: 1999
Maximum Range: 100 to 400 m sight adjustments
Weight: 3.5 kg (7.7 lb)
Length: 720 mm (28.3 in) stock extended
Barrel length: 260 mm (10.24 in.)
Cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Rate of Fire: 600 round/min
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: 30-round detachable box magazine
Sights: Iron sights

The price of a single MR3 is $2,100 USD.

Also, incase you are interested LDI has two sniper rifles available for you to purchase.

S15
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...802/jgoz6v.jpg
First Working Prototype: 1992
Maximum Range: 1000 to 1300 m sight markings for area targets
Weight: 4.30 kg (9.48 lb) unloaded with scope
Length: 1,135 mm (44.7 in) stock extended
Barrel length: 620 mm (24.4 in)
Rate of Fire: N/A
Cartridge: 7.62x54mmR
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: 10-round detachable box magazine
Sights: PSO-1 telescopic sight and iron sights with an adjustable rear notch

The price of a single S15 is $2,260 USD.

M54
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...7--image03.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2005
Maximum Range: 6800 m (1800 m effective)
Weight: 14 kg (30.9 lb) (unloaded)
Length: 1220 mm (57 in)
Barrel length: 737 mm (29 in)
Rate of Fire: N/A
Cartridge: 12.7×99mm NATO
Action: Recoil operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: 10-round detachable box magazine
Sights: 10x telescopic

The price of a single M54 is $2,670 USD.

We hope these prices are reasonable and you find these designs to be worth replacing your current standard issue weaponry.

Sincerely,
Ageous Echaus
CEO of LDI
Logistics Defense Incorporated
Catawaba
23-03-2008, 06:54
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The Armed Republic of Catawaba
An Official Communication from the Secretary for Foriegn Affairs, Lolimba Bevu
An Inquiry as to Bedouin Raiders' Military Expenditures

To Whom it might concern:

It has come to the attention of the government of Catawaba that you are now looking to update your national military. We find that utterly confusing because you have also stated that you are in the midst of a humanitarian crisis due to a poor crop yield. Our confusion stems from the fact that you sold Weapons of Mass Destruction to purchase foodstuffs, but now have millions to spend for defense.

We find this dubious.

From the heart,
Lolimba Bevu
Secretary for Foriegn Affairs.
Bedouin Raiders
23-03-2008, 14:45
TO:Catawabe
Concerning: WMD

I could have bought food but I felt like being creative to get food. I have a lot of money because my economy is great.

Leaders:
Assault Rifle-Roma V Jupiter TZ21 (still a little high priced but looks like a great gun)
LMG-Volzgrad PMG22
Light anti-tank wepaon-leafanistan SPIKE missle
SMG-Volzgrad PPSH-88
SaintB
23-03-2008, 15:10
STW Weaponry Incorperated would like to submit for your review entries into all three categories.

For the AR Category we would like to submit the Ares III (http://saintb.proboards78.com/index.cgi?board=aresar&action=display&thread=1194231530) or the more affordable Ares II (http://saintb.proboards78.com/index.cgi?board=aresar&action=display&thread=1194231405). They are both well made 5.56 mm NATO weapons also available in 6.5 Grendel.

For the Light Machine Gun Category we offer to you the Heracles LMG (http://saintb.proboards78.com/index.cgi?board=guns&action=display&thread=1194233572)

And finally for a sub machine gun we present for review the Medusa SMG (http://saintb.proboards78.com/index.cgi?board=guns&action=display&thread=1194232960)


We also beleive that you may wish to take a look at our moduler weapon system (http://saintb.proboards78.com/index.cgi?board=guns&action=display&thread=1196644687)
Scandavian States
23-03-2008, 15:45
..::Polaris Arms Inc Order Query Response::..
TO: Department of Defense, Bedouin Raiders
FR: Polaris Arms Foreign Orders Department
SUB: RE: Competitive Contract Tender

Polaris Arms is most pleased to submit firearms for the consideration of the military of the Bedouin Raiders. First we have the M56 sub-carbine, chambered in 4.85mm Imperial, to fulfill the need for a submachine gun; the strength of this weapon is that its weight combined with the cartridge's light recoil means that there is no felt recoil and an entire magazine can be accurately placed on target. Depending on barrel length requires, either the M57 carbine or M58 rifle should meet the needs of the Bedouin military; both are chambered in 6.25mm Imperial and have a much greater effective range than the AK-47. The M60 squad rifle should meet the requirements for a light automatic weapon; it is chambered in the same round as the two rifles and has an internal 300-round magazine.

Complete specs can be found in our magazine (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=522384).
Bedouin Raiders
23-03-2008, 18:04
Current Leaders:
Assault Rifle- Jupiter TZ21(more popular with the test subjects), and M-57 pulse carbine(more cost efficent)
No changes otherwise
Leafanistan
23-03-2008, 18:10
Current Leaders:
Assault Rifle- Jupiter TZ21(more popular with the test subjects), and M-57 pulse carbine(more cost efficent)
No changes otherwise

The General Resources Conglomerate will offer free weapons training, explanation of how to make ammunition, and free cleaning kits via subcontractors through our wholly owned subsidiaries.
Leafanistan
23-03-2008, 18:28
Message from Major Dynamics

Hello, I, a representative of Sir Roger Majors, would like to offer our deranged products for your consideration. First for the Assault Rifle category:

Stg-XX 'Mjolnir' Heavy Trooper's Rifle

Designed for Terre Nationale to fulfill their deranged requirement for a next-generation rifle that can utterly devastate currently available Level III Body Armor, we created the Stg-XX 'Mjolnir' named after Thor's mighty, yet heavy hammer, to fulfill that requirement. This is chambered for the 8.00*55 mm 'Bolt' an experimental heavy intermediate cartridge that was rejected by the Leafanistani Army years ago. It was overkill and the then mostly conscript army couldn't handle the recoil.

Now it is reborn for a gas-operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs, balanced bolt-carrier/bolt group, also known as BARS, which reduces recoil significantly and allows for accuracy despite the powerful recoil. The body is made of heavy steel alloys and uses heavy durable plastics instead of the lighter ones to also reduce recoil. The overall heavy 8.2 kilogram rifle is a result of this protection.

It has two modes, semiautomatic, and 2 round burst. Full automatic was considered, but the extreme recoil presented by the 'Bolt' was too great for the shooter. It feeds from a 20 round clip to also reduce weight. The most unusual aspect of this weapon is the fact that instead of a grenade launcher on the bottom, there is a H&K MP7 PDW, with a 40 round magazine and the grenade launcher, 30mm, sits on top, below the 1.5x Red-Dot sight which rests on top of the carrying handle like on the G36.

Caliber: 8.00*55mm Bolt
Action: 2 Lug Gas BARS
Weight: 8.2kg
Overall length: 1037 mm
Barrel length: 450 mm
Magazine capacity: 20 rounds
Rate of Fire: Semiauto, 2 round burst

Secondary Weapon

Caliber: 4.6x30mm HK
Weight: 1.5 kg empty
Length: 300 mm
Barrel length: 180 mm
Rate of fire: 950 rpm
Magazine capacity: 40 rounds
Effective range: 200 meters

Top Mounted Grenade Launcher

Calibre: 30 mm
Weight: 1.3 kg
Length: 276 mm
Performance:
Muzzle velocity: 76 m/s
Rate of fire: 4-5 round/min.

Cost: $1,450 US

Finally, its counterpart in the Machine Gun category:

MG-XX 'Gungnir' Heavy Trooper's Light Machine Gun

Designed for Terre Nationale to fulfill their deranged requirement for a next-generation rifle that can utterly devastate currently available Level III Body Armor, we created the MG-XX 'Gungnir' named after Thor's mighty, yet heavy hammer, to fulfill that requirement. This is chambered for the 8.00*55 mm 'Bolt' an experimental heavy intermediate cartridge that was rejected by the Leafanistani Army years ago. It was overkill and the then mostly conscript army couldn't handle the recoil.

Now it is reborn for a gas-operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs, balanced bolt-carrier/bolt group, also known as BARS, which reduces recoil significantly and allows for accuracy despite the powerful recoil. The body is made of heavy steel alloys and uses heavy durable plastics instead of the lighter ones to also reduce recoil. The overall heavy 8.2 kilogram rifle is a result of this protection.

It has only one mode, full automatic. The most unusual aspect of this weapon is the fact that instead of a grenade launcher on the bottom, there is a H&K MP7 PDW, with a 40 round magazine and the grenade launcher, 30mm, sits on top, below the 1.5x Red-Dot sight which rests on top of the carrying handle like on the G36. All accessories can be removed but ship with weapon.

Caliber: 8.00*55mm Bolt
Action: 2 Lug Gas BARS
Weight: 10.2kg with integral bipod
Overall length: 1137 mm
Barrel length: 550 mm
Magazine capacity: 100 round belt or 200 round belt
Rate of Fire: Full automatic only

Secondary Weapon

Caliber: 4.6x30mm HK
Weight: 1.5 kg empty
Length: 300 mm
Barrel length: 180 mm
Rate of fire: 950 rpm
Magazine capacity: 40 rounds
Effective range: 200 meters

Top Mounted Grenade Launcher

Calibre: 30 mm
Weight: 1.3 kg
Length: 276 mm
Performance:
Muzzle velocity: 76 m/s
Rate of fire: 4-5 round/min.

Cost: $3,450 US

We thank you for considering us.
Bedouin Raiders
23-03-2008, 19:06
To: Leafanistan
Concerning: Advanced weapons

We would like to purchase the Stg-XX 'Mjolnir' Heavy Trooper's Rifle. We have decided it does not fit in any categories we have. We would like to purchase this because it is in a category of its own. We would like 1000 copies and to pay for the right to produce it ourselves. Thank you for bringing this weapon to our attention.
Leafanistan
23-03-2008, 19:13
To: Leafanistan
Concerning: Advanced weapons

We would like to purchase the Stg-XX 'Mjolnir' Heavy Trooper's Rifle. We have decided it does not fit in any categories we have. We would like to purchase this because it is in a category of its own. We would like 1000 copies and to pay for the right to produce it ourselves. Thank you for bringing this weapon to our attention.

Major Dynamics

Your order has been approved and we've secured domestic production rights for this weapon and its ammunition for only $550 million US.

Thank you for your business.

[END]
Scandavian States
23-03-2008, 19:32
..::Polaris Arms Inc Order Query Response::..
TO: Department of Defense, Bedouin Raiders
FR: Polaris Arms Foreign Orders Department
SUB: RE: Rifle Leaders

Countering the Leafanistani offer, we are willing to throw in a full set of accessories for every rifle ordered in the initial run, training on how to use the rifle and its accessories, plus complete tools and dies to manufacture ammunition, and cleaning kits come as part of the rifle. Also, we would suggest that if the carbine is ordered that the squad rifle be as well, since the two weapons share not insubstantial parts commonality and the same ammunition.
Bedouin Raiders
23-03-2008, 19:41
To: Scandinavian States
Concerning:Weapons

If we do adopt the M-57 it will be as a regular issue weapon. The M-58 would then be ordered in small quantities as a sharp shooter weapon.
I would like to know the cost of 90,000 rifles and rights to produce the
M-57. I would also like to knwo the cost of 10,000 M-58's and rights to produce the M-58.
Leafanistan
23-03-2008, 20:11
..::Polaris Arms Inc Order Query Response::..
TO: Department of Defense, Bedouin Raiders
FR: Polaris Arms Foreign Orders Department
SUB: RE: Rifle Leaders

Countering the Leafanistani offer, we are willing to throw in a full set of accessories for every rifle ordered in the initial run, training on how to use the rifle and its accessories, plus complete tools and dies to manufacture ammunition, and cleaning kits come as part of the rifle. Also, we would suggest that if the carbine is ordered that the squad rifle be as well, since the two weapons share not insubstantial parts commonality and the same ammunition.

Encrypted Message

The General Resources Conglomerate isn't beyond giving 1 million USD and a new sports car to every single member of the commission to adopt the AK-165, the RPK-165, and the parasniper variant we will unveil shortly the DMR-165.

[END]
Scandavian States
23-03-2008, 20:14
[*cough*It's Scandavian States, and it would probably be more appropriate to address your note to Polaris Arms, Inc since it is the corporation making the bid. At any rate, no matter.]


..::Polaris Arms Inc Order Query Response::..
TO: Department of Defense, Bedouin Raiders
FR: Polaris Arms Foreign Orders Department
SUB: RE: Anticipated Costs

Costs for the initial run of M57 carbines would run at 140,400,000 USD and the M58 rifles would run at 19,500,000. However, if you're looking for a dedicated marksman rifle, the M59 would probably be better suited to the task and at a run of only 10,000 wouldn't be much more expensive than the same run of M58 rifles (25,350,000 USD.) Production rights, which would include a copy of all blueprints, tools, dies, etc would run at 5,000,000 USD plus a 30% royalty on the production costs for each rifle produced domestically.
Leafanistan
23-03-2008, 20:27
[*cough*It's Scandavian States, and it would probably be more appropriate to address your note to Polaris Arms, Inc since it is the corporation making the bid. At any rate, no matter.]

OOC: Consequently it is also appropriate to be saying you are countering the Conglomerate's offer, not Leafanistan's.

IC:
DMR-165 Next Generation Designated Marksman Rifle

http://www.imagepup.com/up/Hxuy_1206299684-svu-a_3.jpg

Designed to share up to 50% parts commonality with the AK-165, the DMR-165 is unusual as it is a bullpup style weapon and even stranger, comes with a selective fire mode.

The basic action of the DMR-165 rifle is inherited from AK-165 rifle - it is a gas operated, rotating bolt design with 2 lugs. The unusual part of the rifle, inherited from the AK-165, is the ability to fire in full automatic. Selection of the mode of fire is determined by the pull on the trigger - short pulls produce single shots, and long, deliberate pulls produce automatic fire.

Due to the bullpup layout, the buttplate is attached directly to the receiver, the pistol grip and scope mount are moved forward. The barrel has been shortened and equipped with combination flash hider/muzzle brake device. An integral folding bipod is attached to special rod, which runs forward from receiver. This is done to relieve the barrel from stresses generated by bipod. The bullpup design and burst fire feature ensure that troopers with the DMR-165 are not singled out as 'snipers' and can provide effective automatic fire in a close quarters fight. Iron sights are standard.

The rifle ships with a 4x scope set up for ranges between 100m to 1500m thanks to the effective sub minute arc groups (MOA), and a 10 round magazine.

Caliber: 6.5 mm Grendel
Operation: gas-operated, rotating bolt with two lugs
Capacity: 10 round detachable box magazine or 30 round magazine from AK-165
Weight: 5.5 kg with magazine, telescope sight and bipod
Length: 900 mm
Barrel Length: 520 mm
Rate of Fire: 700 rpm

Price: 1200 USD
Bedouin Raiders
23-03-2008, 20:44
OCC: If we are getting all technical about what to call each other I wish to be adressed as Bedouin Military High Command Procurment Division Head of Operations.

Bedouin Raiders High command wishes to know what the production rights of the DMR-165 would cost. That is the only issue stopping the Conglomerate from taking the lead in Assualt Rifles. The DMR-165 is what we are looking for to meet the needs of our military from now into the future. We find the cost of the individual weapon to be excellent.
Volzgrad
23-03-2008, 21:53
To: Bedouin Raiders
From: Vladimir Vorkov, Head of Volzgradien Arms Incorporated

Even though your nation did not specify it, we would like to put forth our semi-auto shotgun for consideration.

Name: SA-41 "Laayats"
Ammunition: 10 gauge buckshot (special incendiary rounds are also used)
Weight: 3.5 kg
Barrel Length: 430mm
Weapon Length: 670mm (no buttstock)
Fire Rate: Semi-auto
Effective Range: 50 yards
Feed System: Box magazine
Clip Size: 10 rounds
Design: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Saiga-12_small.jpg
A feared and respected weapon and an absolute demon in close quarters. Unlike other combat shotguns, the SA-41 uses 10 gauge buckshot for extra power and spread. For special operations, one can use a special incendiary rounds for added damage. Since it is based on the CM-74's design, the SA-41 has very little recoil. It uses a special 10 round box magazine for quick reloading and a large ammo capacity. The SA-41 earned the nickname "Laayats" (Russian for dog bark) because of the sound it makes when it is fired. Like all other Volzgradien equipment, the SA-41 is reliable, easy to maintain, durable, and powerful. It is also easy to produce since it is made from stamped steel. The SA-41 currently costs $900 USD.
Bedouin Raiders
23-03-2008, 23:26
To: Volzgradien Arms Inc.
Concerning: Shotgun

Thank you for your offer hwoever we have recently adopted the AA-12 shotgun and are not in need of a shot gun. We would like to knwo the final cost of 50,000 PPSH-88's with cost of the right to produce it ourselves.
Volzgrad
24-03-2008, 00:21
To: Bedouin Raiders
From: Vladimir Vorkov

The final cost of 50,000 PPSH-88s is $40,000,000 USD. We will give you the rights of development free of charge since your nation is having a slight food shortage. Also, 30,000 PMG-22s costs $36,000,000 USD, the rights of development for the PMG-22 will also be free.
Intracircumcordei
24-03-2008, 01:02
To: B.R. MHC
Concerning: New advanced weapons

ICCD has a number of weapons which may be of interest to your purchasing program. However we would like you to consider the ignis iaculator aka IDEUS.

The system is a revised IAR. Some of the few notable changes to IAR models. One of these changes is that the rifle comes in multiple colours for different combat environments, as well as for personal taste and dress occasions. Ever sought some rifles for honour gaurd to be made of a gold coloured rifle, or one to match your flag? Most of the changes comes with new attachments and expanded survival slot packs. While it would be labourous to explain all the module attachments that can fit on both the IAR and the IDEUS none the less be assured that module attachments run the full gamut of EW systems. New Improvements have been in interface. Such as the self assembly mechanisms of new attachments. Around the edges of the systems an energy signal can be sent which creates magnetic action which is specifically tuned to the paired component for that location. This magentic capacity enables the component to be joined more easily and even acts to repell other components from being placed in that location. Not designed as a battle component as a seperate lowfield module is used to charge the components. The charge can be disipated, or passed on to specific ammo for various properties including magnetic tracking and SMARTGUN velocity varation, using other module attachments such as electromagnetic field arrays.

If you ever wonder how the grassy Gnoll occured or atleast would like to recreate it, having magnetic feild adjustable bullet and a magnetic field stream device in conjunction can make a bullet fly in multiple directions.

The #1 non cosmetic change in the IDEUS is that the system is now collapsable to be packed into an approximately 1 ft rectangle. The Dian Weapons Designers outdid themselves in the humour department getting tired of old useless storeaways they thought they'd give the conscripts / cadets a shovel at the same time as such they had a number of inverted edges be "sharp" further more the barrel attachment and handgrips allow it to be used as a spade, or when inserting a rifle or multiple rifle rods a shovel. Likewise the lower handgrip can be detached and attached around the barrel. Likewise the space can be used as a 4 lb hand weapon with a number of different configurations. Block rectangle, long rectange, and basic stock. The weapons firing chambers retain their atmosphere sealed chamber.

The rifle continues to be dual chamber, with module attachments. The internal wiring has been readjusted to be "contact conduits" using Dian Nano Technology for the various closed communication streams using Dian Electron Transport Carbon Tubules. There is a new communications transport system in R&D but the information behind it cannot be divulged.

The biggest part of this system is that the IMP/IAR divide has been breached with the new intermodule operability. The front based and rear stock can be totally removed, removing the forward ammo chamber, and removing the rearstock to the point of the rear amo chamber. The new pistol grip then attaches over the rear ammo stock for a machine pistol grip. The machine pistol configuration is about 3lbs while the basic rifle frame is 4lbs. While not exactly a small machine pistol, more so a Sub Machine gun at just under 30cms. although larger than most pistols still runs in around the same length of large magnums such as the .357, although completely different in volume. The material of course allows more volume to be taken up with less weight. One issue of course is buck. Dian Security Forces utilize "arm braces" and combat armour which diffuses the buck of these weapons. It would be generally dangerous to fire these weapons with unprotected wrists with a single hand unless great strength existed to offset the nearly 50 calibre rounds, in multi shot bursts, while in single shot mode it would be equivilent to a magnum sized round.


I won't take up great time in going into full detail of the IDEUS; however have great pride in introduceing the latest of Dian State Weapons to the Global Market Place.

There are far more details to this weapon, and that is why it is the choice of the Imperial Gaurd, Lictor Servicemember and so many others.

The weapon is purchasable only on exclusive contract from the Divinus Imperium of Intracircumcordei. Custom orders may also be placed.

Price per basic stock is $500, without any module attachments, for order of 50,000 or more. $750/basic stock for oder to 10,000. $1000 for orders of less than 10,000.

All orders come with service contract and technical support, as well as training by Dian Weapons Advisors.

More information available on request.
Specific Details may be sent privately if specifics are not yet cleared for public release


Dian State Tresury, Arms Manufacturing Industry, Spokesperson for Dian State Enterprises.

Dathan Zurreih
Leafanistan
24-03-2008, 01:50
OCC: If we are getting all technical about what to call each other I wish to be adressed as Bedouin Military High Command Procurment Division Head of Operations.

Bedouin Raiders High command wishes to know what the production rights of the DMR-165 would cost. That is the only issue stopping the Conglomerate from taking the lead in Assualt Rifles. The DMR-165 is what we are looking for to meet the needs of our military from now into the future. We find the cost of the individual weapon to be excellent.

Encrypted Message

The General Resources Conglomerate will offer you the production rights for all 3 of the 6.5 mm rifles for a total of only $45 million USD.

[END]
Bedouin Raiders
24-03-2008, 03:21
OCC: Please post what I owe you fi you are the winner of a category

My Decision:

Assault Rifle-DMR-165 will be adopted for some Bedouin Special Forces and sharp shooters. The High command will purchase 10,000 copies and the rights to produce it.

M-57-100,000 Copies and rights to produce will be purchased

Jupiter TZ21-50,00 Copies and rights to produce will be bought for Bedouin Police

SMG-The PPSH-88 is the winner. The High Command will order 50,000 models and rights to produce will be paid for as well

Light anti-tank weapon: SPIKE missle. High command will order 10,000 launchers and 100,000 missles and will buy the rights to produce.

LMG-The Pmg-22. 25,000 copies and the rights to produce will be bought.

Other weapons That will be purchased to experiment with and consider adopting:

IDEUS-1000 copies and rights to produce will be purchased

MG-XX 'Gungnir' Heavy Trooper's Light Machine Gun-10,000 copies and rights to produce will be purchased.
Scandavian States
24-03-2008, 03:30
[You sure you want to mix and match like that, man? My rifle isn't the least bit compatible with Leaf's. I would suggest you go with a similar tech base for simplicity's sake, even if it means I lose out on this order. You'd only be hurting yourself otherwise.]
Roma V
24-03-2008, 03:58
Price

I am most thankful you took into consideration our weapon's capabilities and are glad to see it will go towards safe guarding Bedouin citizen in the hands of Bedouin Raider's capable police force. Currently, to purchase 50,000 units of the Jupiter TZ21 Carbine you will owe $122,500,000 standard USDs. Also to purchase rights to manufacture our firearm will cost you $15,000 standard USDs. We thank you for choosing LDI.

Sincerely,
Ageous Echaus
CEO of LDI
Logistics Defense Incorporated
Bedouin Raiders
24-03-2008, 03:59
I understand what you are getting at but each weapon has it benefits for the specific group getting it. In WWII the USA mixed and matched even more then this and we all knwo how that ended.
Leafanistan
24-03-2008, 04:17
I understand what you are getting at but each weapon has it benefits for the specific group getting it. In WWII the USA mixed and matched even more then this and we all knwo how that ended.

OOC: Well Japan mixed and matched the most and look how they went!

IC:

General Resources Conglomerate

We thank you for your business and have charged your account. Our shipping will commence immediately, and we will ship your order in one large package to save time.

[END]
Bedouin Raiders
24-03-2008, 12:57
$137,515,000 have been sent to Ageous Echaus CEO of LDI. It was a pleasure doing buisness with you.

OCC: It will work out for me. 8 personal cases of M-57 ammunition, 1 of DMR-165, and 1 of PMG-22 ammo to each squad. simple enough
Spec-ops will use the DMR-165 and police use the TZ21
Leafanistan
24-03-2008, 15:13
$137,515,000 have been sent to Ageous Echaus CEO of LDI. It was a pleasure doing buisness with you.

OCC: It will work out for me. 8 personal cases of M-57 ammunition, 1 of DMR-165, and 1 of PMG-22 ammo to each squad. simple enough
Spec-ops will use the DMR-165 and police use the TZ21

General Resources Conglomerate

Due to the purposes you have specified, we are including the 30 round clips.

[END]
Bedouin Raiders
24-03-2008, 22:29
To: General Resources Conglomerate

Thank you for doing this. It is greatly appreciated.