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The following are the top of the line technologies in weaponry in the Republic of Roma V. With the expiration of a deal between the Roman Military and the arm manufacturer, LDI (Logistics Defense Incorporated), they have put their exclusive designs on the market for sale with other nations. These designs are not for sale anywhere else but here and are utilized by elite infantry forces in Roma V's military.

SMGs:
Y43
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/large__06_12_2005_23_09_mt-g3.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2001
Maximum Range: 200-300 m
Weight: 3.56 kg (7.8 lb)
Length: 720 mm (28.3 in) stock extended
Barrel length: 263 mm (10.4 in)
Cartridge: 6x35mm
Rate of Fire: 700 rounds/min
Action: Roller-delayed blowback
Feed system: 30-round detachable box magazine
Sights: Iron sights

GT-15
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/sim520.jpg
First Working Prototype: 1987
Maximum Range: 25 to 100 m sight adjustments
Weight: 3.10 kg (6.83 lb)
Length: 830 mm (32.7 in)
Barrel length: 332 mm (13.1 in)
Cartridge: 9x19mm Parabellum
Rate of Fire: 900 rounds/min
Action: Roller-delayed blowback, closed bolt
Feed system: 15 or 30-round detachable box magazine
Sights: Iron sights

MP54
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/-x7.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2001
Maximum Range: 200-300 m
Weight: 3.56 kg (7.8 lb)
Length: 487.68 (19.2 in)
Barrel length: 146 mm (7.7 in)
Cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Rate of Fire: 700 rounds/min
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: STANAG magazines
Sights: Iron sights, red dot sight

Lotari 24
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/large__18_02_2008_18_42_alphabasic.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2006
Maximum Range: 50 - 100 meters
Weight: 3.5 kg (7.7 lb)
Length: 470 mm (18.5 in)
Barrel length: 260 mm (10.24 in.)
Rate of Fire: 600 round/min
Cartridge: 9x19mm Parabellum, .22 LR, .45 ACP, .41 AE
Action: Open-bolt, blowback
Feed system: 10 (.22 and .41 AE), 16 (.45 ACP) 20, 32, 40 and 50 round magazines
Sights: Rear sights

AKR-47
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/large__01_03_2007_13_59_type68d.jpg
First Working Prototype: 1990
Maximum Range: 300 m
Weight: 3.8 kg (8.4 lb) empty, 4.3 kg (9.5 lb) loaded
Length: 870 mm (34.3 in)
Barrel length: 415 mm (16.3 in)
Rate of Fire: 600 rounds/min
Cartridge: 7.62x39mm M43
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: 30-round detachable box magazine; compatible w/ RPK 40-round box, 75-round drum magazine.
Sights: Adjustable iron sights, optional mount required for optical sights

MR3
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/1010079a-1.jpg
First Working Prototype: 1999
Maximum Range: 100 to 400 m sight adjustments
Weight: 3.5 kg (7.7 lb)
Length: 720 mm (28.3 in) stock extended
Barrel length: 260 mm (10.24 in.)
Cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Rate of Fire: 600 round/min
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: 30-round detachable box magazine
Sights: Iron sights

Assault Rifles:
Jupiter TZ21 Carbine
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/large__28_01_2008_15_02_t9m162.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2005
Maximum Range: 300 m
Weight: 3.8 kg (8.4 lb) empty, 4.3 kg (9.5 lb) loaded
Length: 33 in (838 mm) (stock extended)
Barrel length: 368 mm (14.5 in)
Rate of Fire: 700–950 round/min
Cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: Various STANAG Magazines.
Sights: Rear sights, brass deflector, forward assist and equipable with optical sights

Sniper Rifles
S15
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/jgoz6v.jpg
First Working Prototype: 1992
Maximum Range: 1000 to 1300 m sight markings for area targets
Weight: 4.30 kg (9.48 lb) unloaded with scope
Length: 1,135 mm (44.7 in) stock extended
Barrel length: 620 mm (24.4 in)
Rate of Fire: N/A
Cartridge: 7.62x54mmR
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: 10-round detachable box magazine
Sights: PSO-1 telescopic sight and iron sights with an adjustable rear notch

M54
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/m107--image03.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2005
Maximum Range: 6800 m (1800 m effective)
Weight: 14 kg (30.9 lb) (unloaded)
Length: 1220 mm (57 in)
Barrel length: 737 mm (29 in)
Rate of Fire: N/A
Cartridge: 12.7×99mm NATO
Action: Recoil operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: 10-round detachable box magazine
Sights: 10x telescopic

All weapons do not come equipped with mods. Terrorist groups and known extremist countries need not apply.

Update: Two new Sniper Rifles have been added.
Update: New submachine gun added.

The following are the top of the line technologies in weaponry in the Republic of Roma V. With the expiration of a deal between the Roman Military and the arm manufacturer, LDI (Logistics Defense Incorporated), they have put their exclusive designs on the market for sale with other nations. These designs are not for sale anywhere else but here and are utilized by elite infantry forces in Roma V's military.

SMGs:
Y43
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/large__06_12_2005_23_09_mt-g3.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2001Maximum Range: 200-300 m
Weight: 3.56 kg (7.8 lb)
Length: 1,037 mm (40.8 in)
Barrel length: 146 mm (7.7 in)
Cartridge: 6x35mm
Rate of Fire: 700 rounds/min
Caliber: 5.56 mm
Action: Roller-delayed blowback
Feed system: 30-round detachable box magazine
Sights: Iron sights

GT-15
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/sim520.jpg
First Working Prototype: 1987
Maximum Range: 25 to 100 m sight adjustments
Weight: 3.10 kg (6.83 lb)
Length: 790 mm (31.1 in)
Barrel length: 140 mm (5.5 in)
Cartridge: 9x19mm Parabellum
Rate of Fire: 900 rounds/min
Action: Roller-delayed blowback, closed bolt
Feed system: 15 or 30-round detachable box magazine
Sights: Iron sights

MP54
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/-x7.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2001
Maximum Range: 200-300 m
Weight: 3.56 kg (7.8 lb)
Length: 1,037 mm (40.8 in)
Barrel length: 146 mm (7.7 in)
Cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Rate of Fire: 700 rounds/min
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: STANAG magazines
Sights: Iron sights, red dot sight

Lotari 24
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/large__18_02_2008_18_42_alphabasic.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2006
Maximum Range: 50 - 100 meters
Weight: 3.5 kg (7.7 lb)
Length: 470 mm (18.5 in)
Barrel length: 260 mm (10.24 in.)
Rate of Fire: 600 round/min
Cartridge: 9x19mm Parabellum, .22 LR, .45 ACP, .41 AE
Action: Open-bolt, blowback
Feed system: 10 (.22 and .41 AE), 16 (.45 ACP) 20, 32, 40 and 50 round magazines
Sights: Rear sights

AKR-47
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/large__01_03_2007_13_59_type68d.jpg
First Working Prototype: 1990
Maximum Range: 300 m
Weight: 3.8 kg (8.4 lb) empty, 4.3 kg (9.5 lb) loaded
Length: 870 mm (34.3 in)
Barrel length: 415 mm (16.3 in)
Rate of Fire: 600 rounds/min
Cartridge: 7.62x39mm M43
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: 30-round detachable box magazine; compatible w/ RPK 40-round box, 75-round drum magazine.
Sights: Adjustable iron sights, optional mount required for optical sights

Assault Rifles:
Jupiter TZ21 Carbine
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/CB6802/large__28_01_2008_15_02_t9m162.jpg
First Working Prototype: 2005
Maximum Range: 300 m
Weight: 3.8 kg (8.4 lb) empty, 4.3 kg (9.5 lb) loaded
Length: 33 in (838 mm) (stock extended)
Barrel length: 368 mm (14.5 in)
Rate of Fire: 700–950 round/min
Cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Feed system: Various STANAG Magazines.
Sights: Rear sights, brass deflector, forward assist and equipable with optical sights

All weapons do not come equipped with mods. Terrorist groups and known extremist countries need not apply.



I want it

OOC: Roller delayed blowback is unreliable, better use a gas-operated system.

Also, the overall length for the first 3 weapons is too long. The barrel isn't just the part that sticks out of the weapon, it starts inside. Generally, on the average, the weapon is 2-2.5 times longer than its barrel. The first 2 SMGs also need longer barrels, perhaps 250mm.

OOC: Thanks for the critiques. I'll get right on fixing them.

OOC: Roller delayed blowback is unreliable, better use a gas-operated system.

Also, the overall length for the first 3 weapons is too long. The barrel isn't just the part that sticks out of the weapon, it starts inside. Generally, on the average, the weapon is 2-2.5 times longer than its barrel. The first 2 SMGs also need longer barrels, perhaps 250mm.
OOC: Since when is roller delayed blowback unreliable? The G3 and MP5 series are noted as being extremely reliable and those are roller delayed blowback operated.

OOC:
Susceptibility to fouling and dirt. Although that's not a great issue in cased rounds, still, even cased weapons face dirt, where gas-operated AK handles great.

Though really you're right, with every next NSD design being caseless I just automatically applied the same logic (I initially tried to use delayed blowback and faced that problem). Blowback should work fine with 5.56 NATO.

OOC: The GT-15 is also based loosely on the MP5 with a mix of the HK33.

OOC: A little longer with the weapon for the first one. You should generally leave 300-350mm behind the barrel for rifle ammo and full-sized stock, i.e. barrel length+~330mm.

OOC:Fixed again. Hope people start buying soon now that I've got them right. :p

OOC: Bumped in hopes people will want to purchase anything.

The Nation of Bedouin Raiders finds your wholesaleing weaponry to be hypocritical. I understand that WMd is much more dangerous htan these but these contribute more to violence through out the world. We are careful to who we sell weapons and we sell only a few. You on the other hand are selling small arms which can easily be sold again to terrorist groups. By doing this you are infact encouraging violence. We find this very questionable. Sell a very limited quantity of small arms, and we make no new deals for WMD. That is our offer to you.

Reply to Bedouin Raider's Complaint
We are not the sellers. LDI is the seller. Perhaps all the money in your education system has been misplaced and left you unable to properly read as we did mention the weapons are not being sold to terrorist organizations and aggressive nations as well. Arms manufacturing and exporting is a legitimate and economically beneficial business in which many nations participate and specialize in. The manufacturing and selling of WMDs however is frowned upon business and highly destructive. As for your suggestion there are already extremely strict regulations on the selling and possession of weapons in Roma V. The arms manufacturers have benefited our economy since our beginnings and thus we owe them for being an important part of Roma V's economy. We recommend instead of telling us how to manage our nation, you take a serious look at your own and realize it deserves more attention.

Sincerely,
Emperor Qaeus
Republic of Roma V

OOC: I'd also like to add, Bedouin, that it's very childish of you to come into my thread and try and act like the United Nation's Peace Keeper. Just because I pointed out holes in the fact your post about selling WMDs you decidedly came to my thread, one I put a lot of time, research, and effort into (unlike yours) and decide to act like you suddenly care about the state of the world when you're selling WMDs.

I also ask that next time you're going to pretend to be a hot shot anywhere on NationStates you use Firefox and utilize the built in spell check. Thanks.

To: Roma V Arms Industry Exports
Subject: Purchase

Congratulations on your opening. Having looked through your wares, I have been tasked with procuring some 6,000 Jupiter TZ21 Carbines

However, there is no price listed. Once prices are confirmed, we shall proceed from there.

Signed

David Woodward,
Ustian Defence Secretary

OOC: Those are very good... I have my own storefront that gets a lot of business in the DPI sector and in private designs. But thats not important, my selection is broad and therefore limited and people sometimes ask me what some other good stores are, I'll keep yours in mind.

Ustio North Procurement of 6,000 Item Number 62B

Thank you, we are most grateful to finally be a part of the international arms industry exporting and importing business. The Jupiter TZ21 Carbine is a design we took great pride in and we are glad other nations find interest in it enough to purchase it. The current price of a single Jupiter TZ21 Carbine is $2,450 United States standard dollars. Which would cost you $14,700,000. If you are interested in continuing the transaction please notify us. Thank you.

Yours Truly,
Ageous Echaus
CEO of LDI
Logistics Defense Incorporated

Reply to Bedouin Raider's Complaint
We are not the sellers. LDI is the seller. Perhaps all the money in your education system has been misplaced and left you unable to properly read as we did mention the weapons are not being sold to terrorist organizations and aggressive nations as well. Arms manufacturing and exporting is a legitimate and economically beneficial business in which many nations participate and specialize in. The manufacturing and selling of WMDs however is frowned upon business and highly destructive. As for your suggestion there are already extremely strict regulations on the selling and possession of weapons in Roma V. The arms manufacturers have benefited our economy since our beginnings and thus we owe them for being an important part of Roma V's economy. We recommend instead of telling us how to manage our nation, you take a serious look at your own and realize it deserves more attention.

Sincerely,
Emperor Qaeus
Republic of Roma V

I read it. Nations can easily buy from you and secretly turn around and sell them to terrorists. How would you stop that? You can argue that infact proliferation of small arms is more dangerous than proliferation of WMD. Who in their right mind uses WMD? Now who in their right mind doesn't use small arms in their military or organization?

OCC: I am just being an antagonist dictator. It is so much more fun doing that then being an ethical democracy or something like that. Just being a villian. Don't take much of what I say seriously.

OOC: Shameless bump.

To: Emperor Qaeus
Concerning: Jupiter TZ 21

I am willing to give up all excess WMD that is unsold as of now for a large shipment of this weapon.

President S.A. Smith

Zeus TZ21's for WMDs

While normally I would accept your offer I feel your money could be better spent at the moment on rejuvenating your populace with food and water instead of purchasing weapons. Until you've stabilized your economy, we will have to respectfully decline your offer.

Sincerely,
Emperor Qaeus
Republic of Roma V

As a new and fragile Empire we are in dire need of a weapons program and are aproaching you first for the procurement of such artilcules as are available, for the most part small arms and non nuculear/biological munitions are all that are required. I do not know exactly how this works and we are not a large or rich Empire. Although we may not be your atipical democracy we do not consider our selves extreamists, we are not war like but do believe in the availability of a self defence force as well as an internal policing agency. We shall be looking forward to your answer.
The office of the ministry of imports/exports
The right hounourable Wheelan Deal

Arms Funding for Weapons Program

First off let me thank you for looking to LDI (Logistics Defense Incorporated) for funding weapons to your growing military. When Roma V was first founded they too looked to us to fund their young military and now they are battle ready and constantly on alert equipped with LDI weaponry to protect their country. We can offer you our stock at discounted prices and will also establish an LDI factory in the Empire of Die ReichTotenkopf to help arm your nation if you would like.

Yours Truly,
Ageous Echaus
CEO of LDI
Logistics Defense Incorporated

TO: CEO of LDI
FROM: Calvin Brown, Secretary of Defense

We wish to purchase 5,000 of the M54 sniper rifles since we are lacking in sniper rifles and only have the standard affair of assault rifles and need the rifles for specialist training. We are willing to pay almost any price and are looking for new arms manufacturing industries in our nation. Normally we have very strict control of all manufacturers in our country but we'd be willing to make a special exception if you supply us with some weapons.

I won't be spending any money in this deal. Just getting rid of WMD in exchange for new weapons. My food problems are solved. I ahve recieved enough aid to support my nation until our own food sources are producing again which will be soon.

TO: CEO of LDI
FROM: Calvin Brown, Secretary of Defense

We would like to purchase 5,000 of the M54 sniper rifles for specialist training. We would also like to open our borders with a special offer for your company. Normally our government ruled by the great and mighty leader Commander Tzeneth, may he rule forever, would control and manufacturers within our borders but in exchange for other smaller arms we would open our borders for any and all factories you wish to build in any city except Galalera, our capital and let you have full control. You are a very powerful company and we think you know your business best.

In Response to Bedouin Raider's Request

While we were going to accept this deal so we could disarm your weapons and melt them down into constructive materials we have checked your ad where the sale of your WMDs was announced and noticed you have sold all of them to another nation. Thus the deal is no longer applicable and if you wish to procure LDI's weapons you'll need to purchase them.

Respectfully Yours,
Emperor Qaeus
Republic of Roma V

I do have an ad out for a small arms competetion to replace my out dated weapons. If you enter this competition with resonable prices I am sure you will win. It would be very profitable for you.

((Bumped))