OOC: Help with future tech
Sel Appa
08-03-2008, 06:42
I've never done future tech. Only a bit of modern awhile back when I actually RPed. Now, I'm a majority Generalite, but also do the NS World Cup. I'm thinking of setting up an RP, possibly offsite (which isn't really relevant), and want to know how future tech works. What technology there is, what can be done, what standards are used. The RP will take place in the solar system around 2200-2500AD. Can anyone point me where to look or tell me what I might want to know? I tried NSWiki, but it wasn't much help.
Thanks :)
Anagonia
08-03-2008, 07:07
Well, basically, future tech is what YOU want it to be. It is the only tech where YOUR imagination has no limits. You can create a world, or worlds. You can be any person, or persons. You can tell the tale of one individual or a thousand people. You can do space battles, or you can do skirmishes.
It's totally up to you.
Its also up to you to see the limits. If you role played with a group of people under one specific majority of tech, say Star Wars for example, then providing technology and ships that match that grade would suffice. Perhaps throw in a few Star Trek ships just for giggles, and there you go!
But ultimately its up to you to decide what future YOUR nation has, and what future YOUR stories encompass. If you want, like earlier said, to rp with a group of people, consult your peers on the matter and decide what basis for a civilization is good for you. Ascended beings are almost always looked down upon, because of godlike potential. But everything else, from aliens to Hell-Borne Apocalyptic Beasts of Death is fine, so long as it doesn't kill someone with one swipe!
Make it fair, like you do with other role plays. Play for fun, not as a contest. Entice criticisms to improve your potential. Just be a team member in the vast majority of story writers and you can learn so much more. Basically, Future Tech is what you decide, and what you make of it, especially when done for fun.
Hope that helped!
-Anagonia
Draconic Order
08-03-2008, 07:10
You can check out my factbook in my signature. I use technologies from a dozen games/tv/movies.
DO Info. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8381392#post8381392)
Gaian Ascendancy
08-03-2008, 07:20
If you go by most standard Sci-fi conventions and apply NS standard nation goings, if on a larger scale, then you have a basic idea of what you own nation can be like. You'll find pretty much every known Sci-fi convention and alteration found in NS FT. From Star Wars and Star Trek to sci-fi games and anime can be found here in FT.
It really does come down to your own imagination of how you want your star empire/republic/empire-empire to become as. As long as you don't come into a thread from the outset with a thousand ships or something, just to get attention, then with time and growth, you too can have your own realm made to your own liking.
Be sure to have a good plot too, since FT is rife with large scale plots. (Pretty much the one actual rule for good FT, no matter how much assets you justify. Something more cardinal to me, than even worrying about godmodding and wankery. If the plot isn't good, then the rps won't be. Might as well play GalCivII (Galactic Civilizations II) on open mode. )
And saying that, be sure to have fun doing it. Having made your own star civilization through your own words is a rather satisfying feeling. Be sure to describe as such in enough detail, with enough pride with the fun added.
And be sure to separate OC and IC separate, since some of the blokes around here can be purty passionate with their posts.
In the end, said over and over, it comes down to what 'you' want your realm to look like Sel Appa. Did I mention fun? Oh good... =>>=
Gaian Ascendancy
08-03-2008, 07:33
Humankind Ahb is around, he's directly rping with me in my threads and plot. =^^=
Dontgonearthere
08-03-2008, 07:35
First off, I've no doubt that some are going to show up later in this topic shouting something along the lines of:
NO ITEMS, FOX ONLY, FINAL DESTINATION.
Dont listen too closely to them.
As has been mentioned, NS FT is basically what YOU want it to be.
I myself have opted for something somewhere between the 'hard' and 'soft' sides of NS FT, essentially confining myself to reasonably sized ships, a minimal use of giant robots, and so forth, except where I feel like it ;)
You'll find that lots of people base their tech off of something. To name a few I've seen recently, aside from the ever-present Star Wars, we've got Warhammer 40k, Total Annihilation, and many anime varients (Crest of the Stars (Humankind Abh, if he's still around) and Gunbuster (moi), off the top of my head).
As to what can and cant be done...thats defined by what you think you can get away with.
I myself very recently converted most of the mass of my home galaxy into a black hole with the assistance of a seventy kilometer long colony ship that was converted into a drednaught partway through its construction.
Certainly not something I would drop into the middle of a developed RP, naturally, but a fine plot point in my opinion.
So yeah, tl;dr:
Do what you want. Somebody will yell at you if youre doin' it rong. That or decide your idea is actually pretty neat and throw something back at you.
Gaian Ascendancy
08-03-2008, 07:40
He's been one of my standards for 'such' a long time, since I started FT rping here. Ahb's been one cool dude. =^^= Busy one too as of late in RL though. More than one fun NPC war with him, fun as they were.
Dontgonearthere
08-03-2008, 07:42
Humankind Ahb is around, he's directly rping with me in my threads and plot. =^^=
Good to know. I dont recall ever actually RPing with the man, but I have vauge memories of enjoying his posts :P
Anagonia
08-03-2008, 07:45
Good to know. I dont recall ever actually RPing with the man, but I have vauge memories of enjoying his posts :P
Ignites the "Humankind Abh" light signal in the night sky
Gaian Ascendancy
08-03-2008, 07:56
Eh, can't help people when they ditch a thread, RL is a bastard anymore. And you'll hurt the wall doing that Dontgonearthere, poor wall. =<>= For me, as of late, seems like using the TG a bit, has become like being the annoying neighbor that won't go away. Still, when you need a plot to be moved along like I 'really' need to, there's few other ways in NS.
Dontgonearthere
08-03-2008, 07:56
He's been one of my standards for 'such' a long time, since I started FT rping here. Ahb's been one cool dude. =^^= Busy one too as of late in RL though. More than one fun NPC war with him, fun as they were.
Seems like everybody is busy IRL nowadays.
*Thinking back to the high school years, when I could spend all day on NS*
Good times.
Ignites the "Humankind Abh" light signal in the night sky
Abh-man? >_>
Speaking on a subject more closely related to the OP, I dont know if this is just me, but really, it seems like people ditching RP's is a lot more common in FT than MT RP. It happened in two or three threads a while ago when I first started posting with this nation after the 'original' DGNT stepped off.
I'd suggest getting people in via PM if possible, maybe pre-arranging a certain portion of the events in the RP if required, which would probably help the desertion rate somewhat.
<_<
brb, gonna go sit in a corner and bang my head on the wall a bit.
Anagonia
08-03-2008, 08:10
Your telling me, I can never Role Play in FT without something going to hell and everyone leaving. I mean...no one wants to Rp in FT anymore...not with me..
*sniffles*
Anyway, off topic.
Gaian Ascendancy
08-03-2008, 08:15
Fun ain't it. =^^= Once I get past my refugee explanation in my thread, I'll be opening it all up more, since I'll be playing a rebuilding neutral power for some NS time to come. That means a lot of trading and small scale Rps for me until I reach a certain strength point and all.
I'll sure need rping partners when that time comes. =^^=
Sel Appa
08-03-2008, 08:33
Well thanks to those that helped as much as they could. I wasn't sure how it all worked exactly...
I rp with two Ft nations- Tanara and Nova Nippon. I find it harder to get into a thread where I have no idea of the 'universe' background - Like the Ahb, or Ascended stuff - I had an Roomie that lived and brethed Warhammer 40 k and I really, really got tired of it, plus I didn't care at all for the universe, so I've stayed away from that.
These I know well enough to interact with, so I'm comfortable jumping into a thread with..
Macross- Robotech/ Battle Tech/ Star Wars/ Star Trek/ Bab 5- Rangers/ Andromeda/ Space Opera & Traveller gaming systems / David Webber's Honorverse, / David Drakes Hammers Slammers/ All of Heinlein/ DarkOver/ Laumers Bolo...my list is fairly extensive when it comes to books, movies, some tv shows, but almost no on line/ game box RP's or animes...
But what keeps me out of a lot of threads even when I know them - I don't want to fight a bunch of wars. I'm here to character play, play and expand a person / people and their culture. But some nations seem to be constantly at war, and since I'm not there for that, *shrug*
As far as tech, I mix and match stuff to suite me and the cultures I develope- I mix Star Wars Force ( but I don't emphasiss it, and it's really just a facete of psionics ) with some stuff taken from Webbers Honorverse, other concepts lifted from Trek, to the beauty of Diane Duanes novels. and so on.
Solar Communes
08-03-2008, 08:43
You'll find that lots of people base their tech off of something
Mine is a little based on Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, but mostly based on http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/index.html, on realism and on the following scientific laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Relativity (No FTL, with a single "plot device" sort of exception)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Inertia (No "dogfighting in space")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics (No infinite power sources)
With basically a single definition briefing what 99% of Solar Communes style of FT is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_sci-fi
Of course, it's up to you, but I really would love to see another RPer with a harder FT approach than usual. I'm not a big fan of taking stuff from pre-existing series, and I prefer designing my own instead(The "military" link on my sig has some examples)
Anagonia
08-03-2008, 08:46
Well thanks to those that helped as much as they could. I wasn't sure how it all worked exactly...
You see, we tried to help, but we saw all the awesome old rper's we used to rp with and started jabbering.
So...sorry?
And Gaian, I'd like that, just TG me.
Gaian Ascendancy
08-03-2008, 08:56
When the time's right, I'll probably do an open FT thread for people to jump in. TGing I save for hidden plot stuff to come across another Rper with beforehand to clear things up.
And for all that's interested, this is my web portal for my former full power Ascendancy prior to my current refugee 'plot timeline' I got going now, to see what I play(ed) around with. Just add a billion years of evolution, technology and whatnot, to arrive at what I got with me now, if in a hidden in a nebulae state and all.
http://www.freewebs.com/gaianknight/index.htm
I'm not a hard sci-fier by any means, rather I explore what's possible in FT, with what is at hand in NS FT. I don't like holding back with my imagination, in a universe that in RL as it is, is freaking huge to begin with. Saying that, I avoid wars with NSers for the most part, preferring NPC wars instead, and 'that' also is what I save TGing for greatly.
Still, I should have stuff to glean ideas from, given how long now I've done all this. =^^=
Sel Appa
08-03-2008, 23:15
You see, we tried to help, but we saw all the awesome old rper's we used to rp with and started jabbering.
So...sorry?
And Gaian, I'd like that, just TG me.
Nonono, you guys did help.
Draconic Order
09-03-2008, 06:39
I'd be ok with hanging out with you Gaian.
Playing Mass Effect has made me want to rp FT as well. I was about to make a similar thread when I saw this one lol.
Gaian Ascendancy
09-03-2008, 08:17
The more the merrier, as long as it's all done right. Go with the lay rules of NS FT here, and not my version of rules, and you won't go wrong. =^^=