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For a while now, the Holy Marsh has fought the enemies of the Righteous and Kind One with steel, fire, and faith. A central part of this comes from the IFVs that the military operates. While they have served us well and faithfully, we now look to the future. We use the Stryker, M2A3, and multiple mine resistant vehicles, but we now seek to bring all of the various needs under one program.
This is where we seek international help.
We are not experts in IFVs. We will need aid from expert military craftsman on this, and cost as well as reimbursement are not concerns of ours.
The following conditions must bet met:

- It must maintain above average speed for an IFV.
- It must maintain above average fuel economy for an IFV.
- It must have superb protection against IEDs, explosives, and small arms.
- It must provide the army with a dependable anti-infantry vehicle.
- It must be able to negate opposing helicopters.
- It must be able to carry at least eight Marsh infantry, crew not included.
- The chassis must be easily modifiable so we can make multiple variations.


The Holy Marsh will spare no expense in protecting His soldiers, and those that help us can count themselves amongst our dear friends.

For the Holy Marsh! Death to the Vile Lard!

I tought it was UAV.. nvm...

The Binarian Arms Exportation Corporation has a vehicle that suits all but one of your needs. The Crusader IFV. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13342940&postcount=16) It carries more troops than you require, is perfect for ubran warfare with its shortbarreled, HE, spewing 90mm cannon that can be elvated to a high enough angle to target helocopters if they are sitting relatively still. It is armored like a tank and can survive hits from any small arm we've encounter so far. The Crusader can also function as a command vehicle and call in fire support to destroy those pesky enemy postions that you can't quite reach.

The Holy Marsh will most assuredly look at the Crusader for short-term procurement, but what we seek now is a fellowship to investigate and develop a brand new IFV. As it stands, however, I must warn you that the Crusader's chances are slim: Much of the Marsh military's vehicles run on jet fuel, yours runs on diesel. We wish to keep logistics down.

However, the Crusader is still a fine looking vehicle and we are very gald you have brought it to our attention.

Edit: OOC: I should have mentioned and I do apologize, but we have modified the vehicles we have to run on the same fuel we use for our tanks. I should have said that, and I'm sorry. :(

FROM: Generalissimo Canarias
TO:The Holy Marsh

Personally we are not selling any IFVs however as one military man to another may i recommend the Ironheart (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533583&postcount=1) Armoured Multirole Tactical Vehicle. A few highlights of this vehicle is its amazing ability to be used for any role from IFV to APC to ATMG, if not more. As well it's amazing WATCHKEEPER system that can intercept incoming missiles and protect your valued soldiers.

You can learn more here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541320)

Thank you for your time
Generalissimo Canarias, Mokastana Army

OOC: Jet fuel? You nuts?

(OOC: No, I am not. That is what the turbine on the M1A2 uses. We have modified our IFVs to use turbine engines. They are far less useful in terms of fuel economy, but are faster. The fact that they hardly ever idle means the heat problem that the M1A2 has in urban environments is hardly a factor, and even if the problem was a s bad, it hasn't stopped troops in RL from using the M1A2 in urban environments. I have rambled, sorry.)

Mokastana, the marsh thaks you for your help in this matter. We shall look into that.

(OOC: No, I am not. That is what the turbine on the M1A2 uses. We have modified our IFVs to use turbine engines. They are far less useful in terms of fuel economy, but are faster. The fact that they hardly ever idle means the heat problem that the M1A2 has in urban environments is hardly a factor, and even if the problem was a s bad, it hasn't stopped troops in RL from using the M1A2 in urban environments. I have rambled, sorry.)

Mokastana, the marsh thaks you for your help in this matter. We shall look into that.

OOC No it don't it runs on Gas not Jet fuel

OOC: The tank can be fueled with diesel fuel, kerosene, any grade of motor gasoline, JP-4 jet fuel, or JP-8 jet fuel; the US Army uses JP-8 jet fuel in order to simplify logistics.

OOC:
nice wiki cut and paste. Actually Diesel, JP-8 and JET-A are all pretty similar and most engines designed to run on one of them should be able to use the other perfectly fine with a bit of tuning and some very small modifications, mainly to filters IIRC

Imperial isa: The Abrams uses a gas turbine which is a name of a type of engine and makes no reference at all to what fuel is actually used, the US army use JP-8 and the aussies use Diesel.

IC:

To: procurement office, Holy Marsh MoD
From: Jennifer Alexander, Crookfur Arms
Subject: IFV porgram

Dear Sirs,

At Crookfur Arms we have a long and envious history of working with our cusotmers to provide the best solution for thier requirements and have in the past been involved in several notable international joint porjects.

We would be msot interested in partnering with you to develope your own indigenous IFV design and as proof of what we cna bring to the table I would like to present our current catalogue:

http://s8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/

I look forward to hearign from you.

Kind regards
Jennfier Alexander
Head of Sales
Crookfur Arms.

OOC:
Imperial isa: The Abrams uses a gas turbine which is a name of a type of engine and makes no reference at all to what fuel is actually used, the US army use JP-8 and the aussies use Diesel.

OOC dam those books that only say gas turbine and not what fuel they use to run them

OOC:
nice wiki cut and paste. Actually Diesel, JP-8 and JET-A are all pretty similar and most engines designed to run on one of them should be able to use the other perfectly fine with a bit of tuning and some very small modifications, mainly to filters IIRC

Imperial isa: The Abrams uses a gas turbine which is a name of a type of engine and makes no reference at all to what fuel is actually used, the US army use JP-8 and the aussies use Diesel.

IC:

To: procurement office, Holy Marsh MoD
From: Jennifer Alexander, Crookfur Arms
Subject: IFV porgram

Dear Sirs,

At Crookfur Arms we have a long and envious history of working with our cusotmers to provide the best solution for thier requirements and have in the past been involved in several notable international joint porjects.

We would be msot interested in partnering with you to develope your own indigenous IFV design and as proof of what we cna bring to the table I would like to present our current catalogue:

http://s8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/

I look forward to hearign from you.

Kind regards
Jennfier Alexander
Head of Sales
Crookfur Arms.

OOC: Yes, I copied and pasted it from Wikipedia, but only because it was nice and summed up. I googled it first and got lots of info that was too spread out. And, at no time did I say that the M1A2 or indeed the IFVs I use couldn't use other types of fuel, I just opted to start my military off as in line with the American Army as I could.:P Besides, if we come up with enough vehicles that run i different fuels, then my request for it to run on the same as I do now wouldn't be needed.

To: procurement office, Holy Marsh MoD
From: Jennifer Alexander, Crookfur Arms
Subject: IFV porgram

Crookfur Arms,

We have reviewed your items and have decided that a partnership with your people is in our best interests. However, we must inform you that the Army has recently filled her need with the Ironheart vehicles. This procurement is then going to be for the Holy Warriors, which means less vehicles will be used. However, at the same time, that frees up the developers to use experimental technology that they normally would have been otherwise unwilling to develop due to time constraints.

With Regards,
Colonel-Cardinal Jacobsy Ellensburgh
Department Head of the Office of Procurement
Ministry of Defense