NationStates Jolt Archive

FROM: Primary Admiral ALex Franshaw, Mokastana Navy
TO: Naval Dealers around the world


For Shoreline defense Mokastana is looking for a ship that can work well with our current Tomahawk Class (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538357&highlight=OK-PCL-1+Tomahawk+Class), patrol ship. Preferably one that can defend against modern navies as well as pirates.

As for a separate contract, we would like to find a suitable rifle for our marines and coast guard. One that can stand salt water for long periods of time as well as going threw sand and muck while still firing accurately and effectively. We would prefer it to be able to take the standard Mokan 7.62x54mm, however if you can provide reasoning as to why another round would be more effective, then by all means, do so. As a note the Marines are looking to distinguish themselves from the rest of the Mokan Military.

Thank you

STALWART MUNITIONS
A subdivision of Stalwart PMC.

DISCLAIMER
Stalwart Munitions, a subdivision of the Stalwart Private Military
Corporation (SPMC) is in no way responsible for the actions or
views of the SPMC parent company. Actions or views of the SPMC
or Stalwart Munitions are not associated or in any way connected
to the state of Agrandov, and Stalwart Munitions is not responsible
for these products or their usage after they have been shipped.

***


Primary Admiral Alex Franshaw, Mokastana Navy

Regarding your interest in a reliable and capable assault rifle, Stalwart Munitions feels obliged to recommend the AVIR Advanced Personal Weapon System. This rifle will easily exceed any criteria you have for an assault rifle, and will be released by DDI and SPMC very shortly. From a helical magazine of 50 rounds, the AVIR can offer single shots, rapid bursts or steady automatic fire out to 800 metres. The PDR and IAR variants offer a range of configurations for all situations, making the AVIR capable of filling every role in the standard squad.

The AVIR is pending release, and will immediately be accepted as the standard-issue rifle for the Agrandan military and large elements of the Doomani armed forces. Several high profile nations have expressed their interest in the weapon, although both DDI and SPMC are confident that the demand will be met.

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In recent trials, the AVIR was capable of firing over 10,000 rounds in succession, without cleaning. The compact and lightweight 6.7x35mm CTA round has stopping power that is exceptional for an intermediate cartridge, as it uses a 110 grain projectile. The weapon is fully ambidextrous, and has four attachment rails for use with extra equipment.

The AVIR is a clear choice for any serious military, and will capably serve for the foreseeable future and beyond.

Richard McGrah
Stalwart Munitions.

TO: Richard McGrah, Stalwart Munitions
FROM: Primary Admiral Alex Franshaw

We would like to make a few inquires about this fine weapon:

can the weapon can be modified to take 7.62x54mm rounds?
What is the advantage of the 6.7x35mm over a 7.62x54mm?
What are prospects of DPRs?

The reason I am asking about the 7.62s is simply because that is the standard round the Mokan Military and therefore we have stockpiles of them and production of a new round cost money, while your rifle is indeed remarkable we would like to ensure it is cost effective to use.

Thank you

STALWART MUNITIONS
A subdivision of Stalwart PMC.

DISCLAIMER
Stalwart Munitions, a subdivision of the Stalwart Private Military
Corporation (SPMC) is in no way responsible for the actions or
views of the SPMC parent company. Actions or views of the SPMC
or Stalwart Munitions are not associated or in any way connected
to the state of Agrandov, and Stalwart Munitions is not responsible
for these products or their usage after they have been shipped.

***

Primary Admiral Alex Franshaw, Mokastana Navy

The AVIR is unusual in that the rifle and the 6.7x35mm CTA round were designed in concert for maximum compatibility and the minimum number of potential issues. Therefore, to re-chamber the AVIR would require the outright replacement of many internal parts, and heavy modification to the exterior. An alternative magazine would have to be developed, and overall the costs and time involved in converting a single rifle - let alone a production line - are simply not economically feasible. The AVIR will not leave the 6.7x35mm chambering in the foreseeable future.

The 6.7x35mm CTA round itself has many advantages over the obsolete 7.62x54mm round. It is much smaller and lighter, which makes everything from manufacture, to transportation, to a soldier carrying it much easier. The round is vastly superior at close and medium ranges because of its soft recoil and the AVIR's rate of fire. A 6.7x35mm round would also be more accurate than the 7.62x54mm, with more modern ballistics engineering and design.

The question of Domestic Production Rights is still being considered by DDI and SPMC, but will likely require the purchase of a large number of AVIR rifles, followed by a 5% royalty charge on every rifle produced thereafter. This is still a concern however, and details are subject to change.

The purchase of the AVIR is facilitated HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=550850), where DDI and SPMC will keep an updated reference to the AVIR and your concerns when purchasing.

Richard McGrah
Stalwart Munitions.

TO: Richard McGrah, Stalwart Munitions
FROM: Primary Admiral Alex Franshaw

I completely understand the situation of redesigning the rifle for that purpose. For the 6.7x35mm we would like to test it against many modern body armor to show that it is worth its size on the battle. Now mind you, given the size of the Mokan Military a purchase for the marines alone would be around 500,000 rifles, not to mention security around docks and ships. The reason we are looking for DPRs is out of protocol, Mokan requirements include DPRs on all military good as not to be reliant on foreign nation unless we have strong history with them.

Thank you

MilNet Joint-Ventures Exports

Aware of your need to upgrading your current need of a new rifle for your marines, the MilNet JVE, having already the necessary infrastructure for exports, presents to your nation to the assault rifle that has replaced the AK-107 AR in Third Spanish States Army, inheriting features and ideas from the AN-94, AK series rifles and from the H&K G11: The FA-65 Assault Rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13482328&postcount=2), which uses the 6.5x39mm caliber, a good intermediary between the 7.62mm and 5.65mm. Although the primary difference being the fact it is a lightweight weapon optimized for use with both telescoped polymer cased, which offers increased reliability, and caseless telescoped ammunition, which offers increased weight reductions, part of a homegrown Lightweight Small Arms Program, offering weight reductions of almost 30% for the polymer cased and of more than 50% for the caseless ammunition, allowing a soldier to carry a much larger amount of bullets than what he could carry of conventional brass cased ammunition, with the inherent logistical advantages of reduced weight and the possibility of using effectively a 56-round magazine. An ejection control port also allows it to permit both caseless and cased ammunition and allows a soldier operating it in semi-auto to control the ejection of the polymer cases from its chamber. It, like the AN-94, has a 2-round ultra-rapid burst mode for improved armor-piercing capabilities, while by having a recoiling barrel on its over-engineered internal structure, the FA-65 burst mode actually involves a recoil delay long enough to allow the second fired round to be as accurate as the first round rather than like in some other firearms which feature a burst mode, while obviously it has a full automatic and semi automatic fire mode as well.

Now if the military authorities of Mokastana are seeking another level of firepower and accuracy compatible with their currently used caliber, there is also a battle rifle available, a part of the Rifles Avanzados(Advanced Rifles) Series (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13482410&postcount=3), the RSA Battle Rifle, a high accuracy battle rifle with comparable accuracy to a G3A3, while being chambered for a larger 7.62x54mm caliber which still is lighter than a conventional 7.62x51mm due to the use of polymer as its case, besides its caseless ammunition variant, and regardless of all propaganda efforts to claim otherwise, has not become obsolete compared to intermediary calibers and is an excellent round for precision, designated marksman and sniper rifles as well which offers superior stopping power, maximum effective range and armor piercing capabilities, specially its tungsten-carbide AP ammunition type. Despite using emergent technologies like caseless ammunition, the RSA was proven to be more reliable than the H&K G3A3, specially for using an operation based in its design principles on the highly reliable, gas operated, rotating bolt action of the AK series instead of a roller-delayed blowback action. However, if price is not a problem, you might prefer its more expensive brother which is the RBA battle rifle, which uses a ceramic matrix composite liner for its barrel overwrap by a metal matrix composite, reducing significantly its weight with a barrel almost 50% lighter than a conventional steel lined barrel and with improved heat resistance, allowing much of the over-engineered internal components of the RSA to be removed or replaced with lightweight ones without reliability problems, and also for its reduction of weight to only 4.1 kilograms when empty and 4.7 kilograms when loaded with a 25-round magazine of caseless ammunition: the same weight of an empty H&K G3A4. Finally, should you initially choose the RSA but then prefer RBA in the future, the RSA can actually be upgraded and reconfigured to a RBA due to the large quantity of shared and standardized components coupled with the modularity of the Rifles Avanzados Series.

Believing the question of ammunition production costs and reliability will arise, I can safely grant, as a representative of the MilNet JVE, that we have developed a cheaper production method for caseless ammunition without any quality loss which makes it cost competitive with brass cases, while our designs are entirely optimized to be as and usually more reliable than an average weapon using conventional brass cased ammunition. We have tested and successfully developed caseless and polymer cased ammunition created for calibers up to the 7.62x67mm, also known as the .300 Win, and have more than a decade of experience with development and use of caseless and polymer cased ammunition.

Should this message draw any interest for a future contact, we can negotiate further regarding the quantities and needs of your nation. I can answer you any questions you might have regarding these mentioned technologies should you become interested, and I wish you good luck, to make the right choice for your nation needs in face of so many options and such myriad of information this modern world offers and that must be filtered before the important act of decision-making. Thank you for your attention. Regarding domestic production rights, something which I believe you would want to negotiate should this technology draw your interest, for internal use only, all the agreements are based on an one-time payment for a temporary domestic production right from one to ten years which would be more cost-effective than purchasing a similar quantity of these weapons, and with no royalties needed for production for internal domestic use only. We can discuss this further should you be interested, and we might as well offer you the entire DPR for the Rifles Avanzados Series, including not only the battle rifle, but several different precision, designated marksman and sniper rifles into a single, very cost-efficient package formed according to your needs. And perhaps we might even negotiate a lifetime or long-term domestic production rights for internal use for them as well, should you find it more cost-effective.

Representative Hamilton Herrera

BUmp

Well, to replace your Tomahawk-Class, I suggest any of the following ships, all avaliable through Soviet Arms Corporation:

Romanov Class Boat (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12469656&postcount=259)
Bergstein Class Light Frigate (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12331908&postcount=41)

IC:

To: Primary Admiral ALex Franshaw, Mokastana Navy
From: Jennifer Alexander, Crookfur Arms
subject: Re: your request for Proposals.

Dear Admiral,

At Crookfur Arms we are currently developing specialised combat vessels developed from our range of affordable and effective patrol vessels. Currently no plans have been finalised so we like to offer you the chance to have a high level of input into the development of these vessels to ensure you are getting a solution that precisely fits your requirements.

We are concentrating our efforts on developing 2 of our existing platforms, the Erica class patrol vessel (http://z8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/index.php?showtopic=27) and the Jessica class Off-Shore Patrol Vessel (http://z8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/index.php?showtopic=50).

Currently an Erica class derived missile boat would carry 8-16 harpoon/exocet class missiles plus enhanced air defence capabilities while a Jessica class derived corvette would carry 16 narpoon class missiles and an enhanced artillery provision (msot like a 76-13mm gun).

If the above projects would be of interest then please do get in touch and we shall do our best to meet your needs.

Warm regards
Jennifer Alexander
Head of Sales
Crookfur Arms

one last bump before final contracts...

Note: purchases will be in the hundreds, if not thousands of ships, while rifle contract will be 100,000 at the minimum

bump?

FROM: Primary Admiral Alex Franshaw
TO: Soviet Arms Corporation

I must say that your Bergstein Class Light Frigate was exactly what i was looking for, if you could send my information on the missiles you would think go best with this ship then I believe we can come up with a very nice contract for 1,000 of these ships, and perhaps domestic production rights for replacement ships and parts, and not to mention weapons.


To: Jennifer Alexander, Crookfur Arms
From: Primary Admiral Alex Franshaw

Your Jessica Class Off shore patrol vessel seems like it can take care of our needs patrolling our Caribbean island chains, therefore we will order 5,000 if you can configure them to have the 16 harpoon missiles.

Thank you

OOC: Officially, and thankfully, the Hurtian government has no clue what your country does behind closed doors...

Nor what their own PMCs do behind closed doors for that matter...

I'd also suggest a brief look at Asgarnieu's Katana class. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12128167)
He does custom jobs at very little additional cost.

Now for me to try and have my cake and eat it too...

IC:

To: Primary Admiral ALex Franshaw, Mokastana Navy
From: Geraldo 'Chubbs' McGee, CEO of Hurtful Armarments Incorporated

We heard you were in the effort of finding some good rifles, nearly jam-proof of course, we may have what you are looking for...

Our line of LAR-655E2 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10892498&postcount=17)s, though not in the actual caliber you requested, we could make some, accomodations, to our production line to allow for a 7.62 mm barrel and a slightly modified chamber, bolt, and return springs to accept the weaker cartridge.

With a muzzle cover, the bolt closed, and the safety engaged, the gun is practically water-tight. And with various options such as a stainless steel construction and the ability to switch between closed and open bolt actions, makes it a wonderfully compact weapon of long range destruction, while maintaining its spectacular capabilities in any CQB scenario.

The base price starts at $250 each, plus the $50 replacement barrel, $100 customized trigger group. I suppose you'd like the user-friendly underbarrel grenade launcher option as well, integrating both weapons under the same trigger, at a mere additional $25 in addition to the custom trigger group.

Well.. that would be the cost if we hadn't had the foresight in producing these guns in various models to match different users. Thus, we can proudly present to you a LAR-754E4 with all the bells and whistles listed above for just $375 plus S&H.

Otherwise, we may sell you a DPR for the entire series for the low price of $50,000 provided 5% of the first guns produced are bought from us. You can't even purchase a decent car for that price, and here we are offering you one of the most essential ingrediants to your nation's protection against foriegn invaders.

Your friend in global arms deals,
'Chubbs'

FROM: Primary Admiral Alex Franshaw
TO: Soviet Arms Corporation

I must say that your Bergstein Class Light Frigate was exactly what i was looking for, if you could send my information on the missiles you would think go best with this ship then I believe we can come up with a very nice contract for 1,000 of these ships, and perhaps domestic production rights for replacement ships and parts, and not to mention weapons.


They can be modified to use any Anti-Shipping Missile currently in the market, be it "free" (as in RL models) or "Custom" (NS design).

They can be modified to use any Anti-Shipping Missile currently in the market, be it "free" (as in RL models) or "Custom" (NS design).

Very well, we will take them and use the standard harpoon missile and Lyrasian missiles on it.

Thank you

Very well, we will take them and use the standard harpoon missile and Lyrasian missiles on it.

Thank you

Order confirmed.