Achae-Ottonian Military needs new equipment!
Achae-Ottonia
28-02-2008, 03:31
As part of the on-going modernization project in the Empire, the Imperial Armed Forces need to replace their outdated equipment, and are looking for potential sellers of such replacements (late-Cold War or MT/PMT, no FT please). The following are needed:
Imperial Air Corps:
Air Superiority Fighter
Heavy Bomber
Stealth Bomber
Night Fighter
Reconassaince Aircraft/Drones
Imperial Army
Design for a standard artillary piece (recoilless rifle)
Transport Planes (Paratroopers, vehicles, etc.)
Tank-Buster Fighter/Tactical Bomber
Close-Support Fighter
Imperial Navy
Naval Fighter
Fleet Carrier
Light Carrier
Battlecruiser
Destroyer
Missile Frigate
Minelayer
Minesweeper
Fast Attack submarine
Ballistic Missile submarine
or
in short, the navy basically needs to be completely redone (from scratch if necessary).
There is a good chance of contracts being awarded. Please come foward with any designs you may have. Thank you. Please also name a starting price. We can work out the details from there.
Feel free to TG me about this.
The Beatus
28-02-2008, 03:53
To Achae-Ottonian,
We can offer the Bpv-123t Patrol Vehicle. A picture, and its specifications follow.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/Uno__1/BPV.png?t=1203287603
Length: 3680 mm
Wheel base: 2285 mm
Crew: 2 (+5 Passengers)
Armor: None
Armament: M2 Machine Gun
Engine: 15B-FTE 4.1 L (4104 cc) inline 4 16 valve OHV direct injection Turbo intercooled diesel engine
Speed: 130 mph (governed)
Achae-Ottonia
28-02-2008, 04:05
This seems acceptable, though I do have a question: is there a way to increase the vehicle's ground clearance a small amount? If so, is it possible to purchase it with that modification made, or will we need to implement it ourselves afterward.
Also, what would be a rough starting price (OOC: How many would I need for a good size army for a nation of 900 million?)
Achae-Ottonia
28-02-2008, 04:12
We will sell the vehicle as is, sorry. The price is apprx. $20,000 USD, we also wouldn't feel right recommending a number, as we would make it outrageously high in order to make money, and we do not wish to do that to you.
OOC: Could you make a suggestion for how many for OOC reasons? I don't really know myself how many... if you were just trying to say you didn't want to make a suggestion at all, sorry about my prodding. I just don't really know how much I should use. Trying to avoid GMing and stuff like that.
IC:
The price sounds reasonable. Please allow us some time to consider this. Thank you for your offer.
The Beatus
28-02-2008, 04:15
We will sell the vehicle as is, sorry. The price is apprx. $20,000 USD, we also wouldn't feel right recommending a number, as we would make it outrageously high in order to make money, and we do not wish to do that to you.
Achae-Ottonia
28-02-2008, 04:18
[OOC: It's really up to you, and how you structure your military, if you want allot of cheap, fast, unarmored, vehicles, than buy many, if you only want a couple hundred buy a couple hundred.
OOC: I gotta work on this. Sorry about this. Probably should have thought about it more earlier.
The Beatus
28-02-2008, 04:23
OOC: Could you make a suggestion for how many for OOC reasons? I don't really know myself how many... if you were just trying to say you didn't want to make a suggestion at all, sorry about my prodding. I just don't really know how much I should use. Trying to avoid GMing and stuff like that.
IC:
The price sounds reasonable. Please allow us some time to consider this. Thank you for your offer.
[OOC: It's really up to you, and how you structure your military, if you want allot of cheap, fast, unarmored, vehicles, than buy many, if you only want a couple hundred buy a couple hundred.
Yanitaria
28-02-2008, 04:32
Yanitaria has many designs for heavy duty APCs, IFVs, or armoured cars (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543091).
We also sell the AY-142 advanced assault rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13268839&postcount=8), and the AVM-43 Raquel (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13420455&postcount=100) MLRS (rocket artillery).
It should be noted that the AY-142 is about to receive a minor upgrade, and we would extend you the offer of converting any rifles you order to the new design at no cost.
Achae-Ottonia
28-02-2008, 05:17
One question regarding the AY-142: Can it be rechambered for another type of round? At the moment, all Achae-Ottonian weapons are chambered for the .385 Draco cartridge (this cartridge is unconventionally powerful compared to others in a .38 size), and it would be extremely costly to produce new types of ammunition.
I have taken a look at the AY-112 as well, and I was wondering what the merits of the AY-142 are compared to the older AY-112. (It should be noted that most things are an improvement compared to what are boys are carrying now: the Steyer (no relation to the Austrian firearms company) FM-4 (http://www.americanweapons.us/images/K98.jpg)(OOC NOTE:If that looks like a Mauser K98, that's because it is)
OOC: If you could tell me more about the .385 Draco I may have several small arms that could fit the bill. I could also offer you a utility vehicle, also in use with Aequatio. As to APCs / Armoured Cars I have several, including the BRA "Marauder" (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549270), which is a fairly heavy armoured car (~30t) though highly effective. I also participated in design of the Cerberus armoured patrol vehicle (Find it in the Aequatian Military Industries storefront) which is lighter and offers many of the benefits of Marauder in a smaller package with some troop carrying capacity. If you need something heavier than Cerberus, Aequatio's got some solutions, and I make use of the R-16ISC, which is a development I made on the Isselmerian L-16ISC, though R-16 features improved mine protection and increased range. However, same weapons and sensors.
I could also set you up for a recoilless rifle but I'd have to know exactly what you wanted there, and even then it's just easier and faster for you to use a real-world one, RPGs tend to be The Shit (/awesome) as is the Carl Gustav launcher (before anyone scoffs, look at the multipurpose capabilities of that weapon).
Any naval kit, go straight to Isselmere or Questers. I'm biased towards Isselmere, but that's just because I've been fielding his gear for a bloody long time.
Yanitaria
28-02-2008, 20:46
One question regarding the AY-142: Can it be rechambered for another type of round? At the moment, all Achae-Ottonian weapons are chambered for the .385 Draco cartridge (this cartridge is unconventionally powerful compared to others in a .38 size), and it would be extremely costly to produce new types of ammunition.
I have taken a look at the AY-112 as well, and I was wondering what the merits of the AY-142 are compared to the older AY-112. (It should be noted that most things are an improvement compared to what are boys are carrying now: the Steyer (no relation to the Austrian firearms company) FM-4 (http://www.americanweapons.us/images/K98.jpg)(OOC NOTE:If that looks like a Mauser K98, that's because it is)
It is possible to chamber the rifle for that round, but it will take extensive modifications, and would be quite expensive. Further, the recoil on an automatic of that caliber would be out of control, and it would very well have to be fired entirely in the semi-automatic mode.
Further the capacity would be low, and the new reciever would be extremely heavy, along with the heavier round.
For instance, the 7.62mm Soviet is twice as heavy as the 5.56mm NATO, even though its a gain of about 2mm.
The AY-142 is a much better upgrade, which uses a balanced gas system, and shaves off the kilos. It is lighter and MUCH more accurate.
The Binarian Armarment Exportation Corporation has a variety of Weapkns that fit your needs. Our Catalog is located Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=546708)
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 00:08
It is possible to chamber the rifle for that round, but it will take extensive modifications, and would be quite expensive. Further, the recoil on an automatic of that caliber would be out of control, and it would very well have to be fired entirely in the semi-automatic mode.
Further the capacity would be low, and the new reciever would be extremely heavy, along with the heavier round.
For instance, the 7.62mm Soviet is twice as heavy as the 5.56mm NATO, even though its a gain of about 2mm.
The AY-142 is a much better upgrade, which uses a balanced gas system, and shaves off the kilos. It is lighter and MUCH more accurate.
We wish to begin by purchasing 250,000 AY-142 assault rifles, chambered for their standard cartridge (6.5 x 39mm Grendel). We also wish to know how much it would cost to produce licensed copies of the AY-142 domestically by the Imperial Arms Fabrication Company. We also wish to know the specifications, if possible, of the 6.5 x 39mm Grendel cartridge so that we may produce it domestically as well. If you so desire, we are willing to pay for such schematics.
Regarding the "Raquel"-type Rocket Artillary, we wish to know if there is any benefit to having the leather seating stripped out, as we need to save money wherever possible. Furthermore, is it possible to make a deal allowing the Imperial Motors (State Company) to produce licensed copies of said Rocket Artillary domestically, to help meet demand? Either way, we wish to purchase 1,400 of these.
Correct me if I am wrong, to total of all this comes to (of purchases only, as any possible deals for licensing, if acceptable, need to be discussed):
AY-142 Assault Rifles: $512,500,000 USD -$7,685,000 = $504,815,000 USD (250,00 units)
($7,685,000 discount as order is over 100,000 units (15%))
"Raquel"-type Rocket Artillary: $8,400,000,000 USD (1,400 units)
Total: $8,904,815,000 USD
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 00:44
We will sell the vehicle as is, sorry. The price is apprx. $20,000 USD, we also wouldn't feel right recommending a number, as we would make it outrageously high in order to make money, and we do not wish to do that to you.
We wish to purchase 400 Bpv-123t's for field testing and to see what the troops think. If we like what we see, we are willing to purchase an additional 3,100 Bpv-123t's.
Correct me if I'm wrong, we owe you $8 million USD now, and if we decide to purchase more, an additional $62 million USD.
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 00:44
OOC: If you could tell me more about the .385 Draco I may have several small arms that could fit the bill. I could also offer you a utility vehicle, also in use with Aequatio. As to APCs / Armoured Cars I have several, including the BRA "Marauder" (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549270), which is a fairly heavy armoured car (~30t) though highly effective. I also participated in design of the Cerberus armoured patrol vehicle (Find it in the Aequatian Military Industries storefront) which is lighter and offers many of the benefits of Marauder in a smaller package with some troop carrying capacity. If you need something heavier than Cerberus, Aequatio's got some solutions, and I make use of the R-16ISC, which is a development I made on the Isselmerian L-16ISC, though R-16 features improved mine protection and increased range. However, same weapons and sensors.
I could also set you up for a recoilless rifle but I'd have to know exactly what you wanted there, and even then it's just easier and faster for you to use a real-world one, RPGs tend to be The Shit (/awesome) as is the Carl Gustav launcher (before anyone scoffs, look at the multipurpose capabilities of that weapon).
Any naval kit, go straight to Isselmere or Questers. I'm biased towards Isselmere, but that's just because I've been fielding his gear for a bloody long time.
We are interested in the purchase of 200 Maurader-type armoured cars for field testing to get a feel for them and to compare them against other offers. We need to pay you (correct me if I'm wrong): $ 1,046,000,000 USD.
One question:
1. Is there any way can I contact Questers or Isselmere(apart from TGing them)?
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 00:46
The Binarian Armarment Exportation Corporation has a variety of Weapkns that fit your needs. Our Catalog is located Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=546708)
We have perused your company's catalouge, and while we found it quite impressive, we are, at this time, turning down your offer. However, we will keep you in future considerations.
TO: Achae-Ottonian Purchasing Bureau
FROM: Lyran Governmental Trade Department
RE: New equipment
As per your request, we hereby submit our product catalogue (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541320).
Should you wish to purchase anything, please don't hesitate to ask.
Regards
Lieutenant-General Aleksandr
Director
Lyran Governmental Trade Department
Bredubar
Protectorate of Lyras
Yanitaria
29-02-2008, 01:28
We wish to begin by purchasing 250,000 AY-142 assault rifles, chambered for their standard cartridge (6.5 x 39mm Grendel). We also wish to know how much it would cost to produce licensed copies of the AY-142 domestically by the Imperial Arms Fabrication Company. We also wish to know the specifications, if possible, of the 6.5 x 39mm Grendel cartridge so that we may produce it domestically as well. If you so desire, we are willing to pay for such schematics.
Regarding the "Raquel"-type Rocket Artillary, we wish to know if there is any benefit to having the leather seating stripped out, as we need to save money wherever possible. Furthermore, is it possible to make a deal allowing the Imperial Motors (State Company) to produce licensed copies of said Rocket Artillary domestically, to help meet demand? Either way, we wish to purchase 1,400 of these.
Correct me if I am wrong, to total of all this comes to (of purchases only, as any possible deals for licensing, if acceptable, need to be discussed):
AY-142 Assault Rifles: $512,500,000 USD -$7,685,000 = $504,815,000 USD (250,00 units)
($7,685,000 discount as order is over 100,000 units (15%))
"Raquel"-type Rocket Artillary: $8,400,000,000 USD (1,400 units)
Total: $8,904,815,000 USD
Your actual total is $7,575,625,000 (the 15% discount applies to the entire order). It has been approved
The DPR for the Raquel would cost 10,000 times the single unit price, while the AY-142 DPR (which include the 6.5mm Grendel, which is a RL design) will cost 1,000,000 times the single unit price.
The Raquel has leather seating for comfort and durability, but it can be replaced by other materials.
Finally, if you would like the wait, the AY-142 will be replaced by the AY-143 upgrade, which will be made available at the same price. Any of the AY-142s you purchase from us will be upgraded at no cost, but we urge you to wait for the AY-143 DPR to come onto the market.
The upgrade will include improved sights, an improved trigger group, lower bore height, an offset bayonet lug, an adjustable stock/cleaning rod. (OOC: Might have been a few things I forgot).
The AY-143 will be made available in a few short months (In RL, this weekend).
EDIT: The AY-143 will also be chambered for a more powerful round.
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 01:38
Your actual total is $7,575,625,000 (the 15% discount applies to the entire order). It has been approved
The DPR for the Raquel would cost 10,000 times the single unit price, while the AY-142 DPR (which include the 6.5mm Grendel, which is a RL design) will cost 1,000,000 times the single unit price.
The Raquel has leather seating for comfort and durability, but it can be replaced by other materials.
Finally, if you would like the wait, the AY-142 will be replaced by the AY-143 upgrade, which will be made available at the same price. Any of the AY-142s you purchase from us will be upgraded at no cost, but we urge you to wait for the AY-143 DPR to come onto the market.
The upgrade will include improved sights, an improved trigger group, lower bore height, an offset bayonet lug, an adjustable stock/cleaning rod. (OOC: Might have been a few things I forgot).
The AY-143 will be made available in a few short months (In RL, this weekend).
EDIT: The AY-143 will also be chambered for a more powerful round.
We can accept waiting for the AY-143. We also thank you for not allowing us to get ourselves overcharged by a calculating error.
We are willing to pay the $60,000,000,000 USD for the DPR for the "Raquel," and we will wait for the DPR for the AY-143 to become available.
*points to earlier post above...*
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 01:53
*points to earlier post above...*
Don't worry, I read it. I've been perusing the catalouge. At the moment nothing's really striking my fancy, though.
OOC: This gives me an idea!:D Read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=550726) thread. Would anyone mind if I came in and attacked a few ships going to Achae-Ottonia?
Yanitaria
29-02-2008, 01:55
We can accept waiting for the AY-143. We also thank you for not allowing us to get ourselves overcharged by a calculating error.
OOC: What is a DPR?
Domestic Production Rights
Imperial isa
29-02-2008, 02:02
OOC do you need a sniper rifle for you army
Sarrowquand
29-02-2008, 02:13
In addition to our previous talks would care to purchase and test some of our body armour and shock staves for a unit of your special forces.
We can sell you some of our previous generation MkIII full body armour for $30,000 a unit. Along with our I-23 (intermediate) Shock staves at $800 a unit.
Perhaps 200 units would suit your needs at $6,160,000
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I appreciate that these are not listed but I was bored and felt like sketching the stuff (I could scan these if you like)
We are interested in the purchase of 200 Maurader-type armoured cars for field testing to get a feel for them and to compare them against other offers. We need to pay you (correct me if I'm wrong): $ 1,046,000,000 USD.
One question:
1. Is there any way can I contact Questers or Isselmere(apart from TGing them)?
I'd prefer that you make the purchase order in the thread itself just to make things easier on keeping track of overseas use. That sum is correct, and once you make the post in the appropriate thread then consider it done, and I'll officially confirm it as soon as possible - may have something preventing me from doing it near-instantaneously after you post.
The Royal Shipyards of Isselmere-Nieland is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=484448), but I seem to be missing a link for the Questerian one. I'll send it along when I find it.
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 02:57
OOC: This gives me an idea!:D Read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=550726) thread. Would anyone mind if I came in and attacked a few ships going to Achae-Ottonia?
I'm fine with it on two conditions:
A) Everyone else is OK with it.
B) The RP won't actually disrupt my modernization much (equipment plundered, etc. won't actually be lost).
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 02:57
I'd prefer that you make the purchase order in the thread itself just to make things easier on keeping track of overseas use. That sum is correct, and once you make the post in the appropriate thread then consider it done, and I'll officially confirm it as soon as possible - may have something preventing me from doing it near-instantaneously after you post.
The Royal Shipyards of Isselmere-Nieland is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=484448), but I seem to be missing a link for the Questerian one. I'll send it along when I find it.
Which thread is it that you want me to make the purchase in?
I'm fine with it on two conditions:
A) Everyone else is OK with it.
B) The RP won't actually disrupt my modernization much (equipment plundered, etc. won't actually be lost).
OOC: But the thing is some equipment would be taken. Or if you are okay with this you still receive the stuff even though we plundered it. Meaning we both get the same amount of it I guess because what would be the reason to plunder if we don;t get anything?
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 03:00
In addition to our previous talks would care to purchase and test some of our body armour and shock staves for a unit of your special forces.
We can sell you some of our previous generation MkIII full body armour for $30,000 a unit. Along with our I-23 (intermediate) Shock staves at $800 a unit.
Perhaps 200 units would suit your needs at $6,160,000
........................
I appreciate that these are not listed but I was bored and felt like sketching the stuff (I could scan these if you like)
I don't really understand what use my armed forces would have for shock staves, to be honest. I'll purchase a few just in case, but that's it. As for the what you've named sounds reasonable. Agreed.
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 03:03
OOC: But the thing is some equipment would be taken. Or if you are okay with this you still receive the stuff even though we plundered it. Meaning we both get the same amount of it I guess because what would be the reason to plunder if we don;t get anything?
I don't know. I'd rather not have wasted my money; this whole thing with modernizing my country I feel is going to get rather costly rather quickly. Provided I still get the stuff I paid for, provided it is alright with whoever's ships you'd be attacking, I'm alright with you getting what amounts to duplicates through a magic duplication/wormhole thing. I guess.
Achae-Ottonia: The link was in the original post I made, but here's another to the appropriate thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549270).
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 03:04
Domestic Production Rights
Sorry 'bout that. Forgot for a moment. Then I remembered, but couldn't tell you.
Imperial isa
29-02-2008, 03:30
ooc i have DPR to this Sniper Rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12992780&postcount=1)if you like i can do a ic post selling you some if you want some
Achae-Ottonia
29-02-2008, 03:53
ooc i have DPR to this Sniper Rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12992780&postcount=1)if you like i can do a ic post selling you some if you want some
Thanks for the offer, but I already have a sniper rifle in mind: refitted Achae-Ottonian army rifles. FM-4(378)'s are quite accurate and powerful weapons. However, I'll be sure to keep this offer in mind in the future. Thanks for taking part, as well.
Dostanuot Loj
29-02-2008, 04:31
To the Empire of Achae-Ottonia
If you are still in the market for heavy armoured vehicles, we may have a solution for you. Nineveh Armoured Works, a public design bureau located in the fine city of Nineveh in central Sumer, is a world leader in heavy armoured vehicles. We have a small number of such vehicles approved for export, including the widely acclaimed MCA-7E main battle tank, and a large number of vehicles based upon it which fulfill a number of roles. We are also constantly working on approval of export for other variants based on the chassis, and rlease them within our export venue as they become avalible.
We are sure that you will find everything you need for your heavy armour solutions, and if you have any questions or comments please do not hesitate to bring them to us.
- Nineveh Armoured Works Export Desk
Imperial isa
29-02-2008, 04:38
Thanks for the offer, but I already have a sniper rifle in mind: refitted Achae-Ottonian army rifles. FM-4(378)'s are quite accurate and powerful weapons. However, I'll be sure to keep this offer in mind in the future. Thanks for taking part, as well.
OOC did something like by modifying the sniper rifle into assault rifle, MG and 50. cal sniper rifle
Crookfur
29-02-2008, 22:48
To: Procurment Office, Department of Defence, Achae-Ottonia
From: Jennifer Alexander, Crookfur Arms
subject: An Introduction.
Dear Sirs,
It is with pleasure that introduce both myself and my Employer: Crookfur Arms, one of the world's oldest and msot respected suppliers of defence material.
At Crookfur Arms we pride ourselves on offering solutions tailored to our cusotmer's needs and always being ready to work with our valued cusotmers to provide them with the optimum solutions to thier defence requirements.
Our current catalogue can be found HERE (http://z8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/index.php?http://s8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/) and I would be obliged if you could find the time to examine it.
If you like the look of any of our offerings but feel they need modification to exactly match your requirements please do get in touch and we will be more than happy to discuss options with you.
Warm regards
Jennifer Alexander
Head of Sales
Crookfur Arms
Achae-Ottonia
02-03-2008, 05:20
To: Jennifer Alexander, Crookfur Arms
From: Jozsef Baross, Marshal of the Skies, Imperial Air Corps, and
Marshal Marcus Theodosius Regulus and Marshal Wilhelm Von Dredicburg, Marshals of the Imperial Legionary Army
We have looked at your catalouge, and we must say we are impressed. We wish to purchase 150 Goth gunships for field testing and to get troop feedback. If we like what we see, we will purchase an additional 250. For the 150, we owe you $1.8 billion USD. We will pay an additional $3 billion USD for the additional 250 if we are satisfied.
Sincerely,
Jozsef Baross, Marshal of the Skies, Imperial Air Corps
Marcus T. Regulus, Marshal of Achaea, Imperial Legionary Army
Wilhelm Von Dredicburg, Marshal of Ottonia, Imperial Legionary Army
Achae-Ottonia
02-03-2008, 05:27
To the Empire of Achae-Ottonia
If you are still in the market for heavy armoured vehicles, we may have a solution for you. Nineveh Armoured Works, a public design bureau located in the fine city of Nineveh in central Sumer, is a world leader in heavy armoured vehicles. We have a small number of such vehicles approved for export, including the widely acclaimed MCA-7E main battle tank, and a large number of vehicles based upon it which fulfill a number of roles. We are also constantly working on approval of export for other variants based on the chassis, and rlease them within our export venue as they become avalible.
We are sure that you will find everything you need for your heavy armour solutions, and if you have any questions or comments please do not hesitate to bring them to us.
- Nineveh Armoured Works Export Desk
OOC: Is there a thread to some information on said battletank, or a storefront? If so, could you please provide it?
Crookfur
02-03-2008, 14:39
To: Jozsef Baross, Marshal of the Skies, Imperial Air Corps, and
Marshal Marcus Theodosius Regulus and Marshal Wilhelm Von Dredicburg, Marshals of the Imperial Legionary Army
From: Jennifer Alexander, Crookfur Arms
Dear Sirs,
Many thanks for choosing Crookfur Arms.
Your intial order of 150 Goth gunships has been approved and the first 20 airframes should be with you in a month with a final delivery of 30 airframes taking place in 6 months time.
I do hope you find the Goth to be more than satisfactory and look forward to hearing from you you concerning the results of your evaluations. If there is anything else I can help with please do get in touch.
Warmest regards
Jennifer Alexander
Head of Sales
Crookfur Arms
Dostanuot Loj
02-03-2008, 22:43
OOC: Is there a thread to some information on said battletank, or a storefront? If so, could you please provide it?
OOC: Export thread is in my sig, but here it is again.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545305
Includes PIV-28 and 30 APC/IFVs based on the tank, and the TD-7 tank destroyer/artillery, also based on the tank.
Achae-Ottonia
03-03-2008, 04:26
OOC: Export thread is in my sig, but here it is again.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545305
Includes PIV-28 and 30 APC/IFVs based on the tank, and the TD-7 tank destroyer/artillery, also based on the tank.
Nothing strikes my fancy at the moment. I will consider though.
OOC:
Another option for tanks has occurred to me, however, and I am addressing this part to all:
Would anyone be willing to collaborate with me in designing a tank for domestic production, so that my whole military isn't foreign made/designed? It would be OOC collaboration, as I am not terribly well versed in designing military equipment. Part of the eventual goal would be to start an Achae-Ottonian Storefront. Please submit feedback on this idea.
Dostanuot Loj
03-03-2008, 05:19
OOC: If you're inerested in designing, and learning the tricks, sign up on the draftroom. It's an off-site forum where many of the top NS designers go to discuss their work, me included.
http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?
Some guides, and plenty of accessable information and people who know things you may need.
Achae-Ottonia
03-03-2008, 05:34
Thanks.
Achae-Ottonia
05-03-2008, 05:20
Bumpity bump bump
I believe several of my ships would very useful for your millitary.
Admiral Andarsen Class Heavy Cruiser (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13353505&postcount=17) For your battlecruiser requirement. The missiles that are used by the Admiral Andarsen, have the production rights included with a purchase of over 20 ships.
Halcyon class Attack Submarine (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13340089&postcount=6) For your Fast attack sumbmarine. Ditto with the torpedoes for the Halcyon.
Achae-Ottonia
05-03-2008, 23:01
To: the Binarian Empire
From: Hubert Von Grissem, Grand Admiral, Imperial Navy
While the Admiral Andarsen-class Heavy Cruiser does interest me, I feel I must comment on the ship's utter lack of conventional guns. We wish to know if such an issue can be readied, whether it be on any ships purchased with modifications made by you, made by us, or if such modifications would be totally incompatible. I also have noted that there is no starting price. Could you please inform us of the price of this fine ship, so we may consider it?
As for the attack submarine, we are still deliberating.
Achae-Ottonia
12-03-2008, 03:53
Following exhaustive work (OOC: i.e., looking up the Leopard 2 tank), the Phalanx tank is ready for service in the Achaean Armed forces!
OOC NOTES:
1) Is $11 million USD too cheap for a tank of this calibur (so I know how much to subtract from my military budget.)
2) I will be using the Phalanx (effectively a Leopard 2A5) in RPs as if it has an engine problem that, when the engine is overexerted, makes the tank liable to catching fire. Is this unreasonable?
OOC: What do you mean by no conventional guns?
4x Ak-130 130mm/L70 DP gun
Most cruiser gunsare dual purpose. It makes more sense than having heavy anti-ship guns, and heavy AA guns. link to AK-130 130mm/L70 DP gun (http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_51-70_ak130.htm)
EDIT: Price added
Achae-Ottonia
12-03-2008, 04:06
We wish to purchase 400 Bpv-123t's for field testing and to see what the troops think. If we like what we see, we are willing to purchase an additional 3,100 Bpv-123t's.
Correct me if I'm wrong, we owe you $8 million USD now, and if we decide to purchase more, an additional $62 million USD.
We certainly liked what we saw; we are willing to purchase the additional 3,100 Bpv-123t's, and we shall wire the $62 million USD to you.
Achae-Ottonia
12-03-2008, 04:07
OOC: What do you mean by no conventional guns?
Most cruiser gunsare dual purpose. It makes more sense than having heavy anti-ship guns, and heavy AA guns. link to AK-130 130mm/L70 DP gun (http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_51-70_ak130.htm)
EDIT: Price added
Oops. Missed that part. Sorry.
Achae-Ottonia
12-03-2008, 04:12
I believe several of my ships would very useful for your millitary.
Admiral Andarsen Class Heavy Cruiser (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13353505&postcount=17) For your battlecruiser requirement. The missiles that are used by the Admiral Andarsen, have the production rights included with a purchase of over 20 ships.
Halcyon class Attack Submarine (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13340089&postcount=6) For your Fast attack sumbmarine. Ditto with the torpedoes for the Halcyon.
A purchase of five Admiral Andarsen-class Heavy Cruisers has been approved, and we also wish to purchase DPR. I believe the total is: (Correct me if I'm wrong)
$1.25 billion for the five cruisers
$1.25 billion for the DPR
$2.5 billion USD total
Good doing business with you,
Hubert Von Grissem
Grand Admiral, Achae-Ottonian Imperial Navy
The order has been approved and as part of exportation deals, the DPRs of the missiles and other munitions deployed by the Admiral Andarsen. Have a nice day.