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The basic premise is this:

An international trade conference is being hosted by the Republic at a neutral system outside of national space. The ships of all who sign up arrive at the system - then an alien fleet warps in.

You would be RPing your pre-entry intership communication as well as your post-entry military response. Also, someone would be required to play the alien fleet - they could shape it and the pseudo-nation behind it however they chose.

Please post if you're interested.

EDIT: IC thread is here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=550168)

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I'm interested.

I might be interested.

semi interested

Same As Mini Miehm.

I'll gladly take the unknown alien role.

I'm interested.

Actually as a well known, beligerant alien race the Var would be more than willing to show up to the trade negotation. After all the Var are quite annoyed that you pesky Terrans keep on claiming Imperial territory as though you had some right to it.

Really, I need to re-introduce the Var after a fairly long slumber around here. We haven't been heard of since the Dozle war...

Interested

Interested

interestd, got the invite KOT

Nah, I'll alter my timeline so that this happens after the civil war. Could be cool to come under the auspices of the ITF, too.

We could have two alien fleets: Amazon and Lords of War.

And I invite-spammed everyone I thought might be interested, VS - except you; I thought you might not be interested in yet another war.

We could have two alien fleets: Amazon and Lords of War.

And I invite-spammed everyone I thought might be interested, VS - except you; I thought you might not be interested in yet another war.

True, although why would two alien fleets show up at the same point...

a)The Var are chasing the Amazonian 'psudo-race' because
i) We are annoyed at them (highly likely)
ii) We beleive they are attempting to steal from one of Great Houses
iii) They are a Ner race, and someone wants to make dinner out of them

b)The Var are in a long term psudo-war with 'psudo-nation'

c)Amazon is an Orc race...in which case we're trying to just wipe them and their ships out completely

d)They are Packleds and we're trying to recover a ship the've stolen. (Previously established in the Packled-T.O.Y thread)

*shrugs* Nothing like having the Hu-mans get stuck between the Var and those the Var do not like.

This seems rather interesting, count me in of course with so many people showing up im sure the aliens will have a large fleet, meaning a bigger response from us. should get good vary good once the battle starts up

Uh, Lord of War, I have no idea of what you just said in previous post...

As for why two would show up in the same place, if it's a big spatial hub or at a cosmological point of note, than it could be very likely, especially with what I was shooting at for my aliens.

Here were my ideas on the alien race. If it's in the better interest of having LoW as the aliens, I can revert to my normal Dominion and have them attending the conference, if neccessary.

My plan for an alien race is a group of technological-devoid aliens - completely eschewing technology. If you want, consider them a combination of the Yuuzahn Vong, the Vorlon, and Species 8472 (from SW, B5, and ST, respectively), and maybe a little bit of the Flood from Halo if I get ambitious.

Their goal is thus: Such aliens are either from (I'll let popular vote decide this one) another galaxy or from another dimension (depends if you like Vong or 8472 better, I guess). That makes them totally foreign and unlike anything encountered before. After having purged their own galaxy/dimension of life capable of sustained interstellar travel, the bio-aliens are moving on to our own galaxy/dimension to follow suit and continue their path of natural destruction. You could say conquest and extermination are their addictive drugs.

I'd probaly create some sort of factbook to outline all of what I'd say about the guys, but that'd be my gist of it.

Like I said, I can play my normal civ if that's better, too.

Uh, Lord of War, I have no idea of what you just said in previous post...

As for why two would show up in the same place, if it's a big spatial hub or at a cosmological point of note, than it could be very likely, especially with what I was shooting at for my aliens.

Here were my ideas on the alien race. If it's in the better interest of having LoW as the aliens, I can revert to my normal Dominion and have them attending the conference, if neccessary.

My plan for an alien race is a group of technological-devoid aliens - completely eschewing technology. If you want, consider them a combination of the Yuuzahn Vong, the Vorlon, and Species 8472 (from SW, B5, and ST, respectively), and maybe a little bit of the Flood from Halo if I get ambitious.

Their goal is thus: Such aliens are either from (I'll let popular vote decide this one) another galaxy or from another dimension (depends if you like Vong or 8472 better, I guess). That makes them totally foreign and unlike anything encountered before. After having purged their own galaxy/dimension of life capable of sustained interstellar travel, the bio-aliens are moving on to our own galaxy/dimension to follow suit and continue their path of natural destruction. You could say conquest and extermination are their addictive drugs.

I'd probaly create some sort of factbook to outline all of what I'd say about the guys, but that'd be my gist of it.

Like I said, I can play my normal civ if that's better, too.

that's neat ^^

not bad idea AB i know i could throw a alien race in, however they would only be planetary so it wouldn't work out here for this type of creature

Thanks NC and Zaft, I'm trying to combine different races for a perfect storm, so to speak.

Well in my history the aliens i speak of are at peace with me and help protect the planet they live on....now if this battle expanded to a invasion of sorts this planet of mine could become a key battle ground on my front Alien vs alian, human and cybernetic organisms. Be a interesting battle on my end especially in close combat. This should be epic

Well in my history the aliens i speak of are at peace with me and help protect the planet they live on....now if this battle expanded to a invasion of sorts this planet of mine could become a key battle ground on my front Alien vs alian, human and cybernetic organisms. Be a interesting battle on my end especially in close combat. This should be epic

Works for me. I like epic.

Not epic fail, however.

Works for me. I like epic.

Not epic fail, however.

lol of course not, no one does but a alien invasion in which reinforcments are a long ways away so those on the planet have to fight until help arrives makes for a good classic

lol of course not, no one does but a alien invasion in which reinforcments are a long ways away so those on the planet have to fight until help arrives makes for a good classic

Tru dat. If I'm accepted, I'll make a lot of aliens, though...for a lot of good long fights.

After all, short little affairs are boring.

Tru dat. If I'm accepted, I'll make a lot of aliens, though...for a lot of good long fights.

After all, short little affairs are boring.

yeah if its over fast its just like "Well that was fun, same time next week?" long battles are more like "Well time to pick up the pieces"

Uh, Lord of War, I have no idea of what you just said in previous post...

As for why two would show up in the same place, if it's a big spatial hub or at a cosmological point of note, than it could be very likely, especially with what I was shooting at for my aliens.

Here were my ideas on the alien race. If it's in the better interest of having LoW as the aliens, I can revert to my normal Dominion and have them attending the conference, if neccessary.

My plan for an alien race is a group of technological-devoid aliens - completely eschewing technology. If you want, consider them a combination of the Yuuzahn Vong, the Vorlon, and Species 8472 (from SW, B5, and ST, respectively), and maybe a little bit of the Flood from Halo if I get ambitious.

Their goal is thus: Such aliens are either from (I'll let popular vote decide this one) another galaxy or from another dimension (depends if you like Vong or 8472 better, I guess). That makes them totally foreign and unlike anything encountered before. After having purged their own galaxy/dimension of life capable of sustained interstellar travel, the bio-aliens are moving on to our own galaxy/dimension to follow suit and continue their path of natural destruction. You could say conquest and extermination are their addictive drugs.

I'd probaly create some sort of factbook to outline all of what I'd say about the guys, but that'd be my gist of it.

Like I said, I can play my normal civ if that's better, too.

I was just throwing out ideas that came to mind. Having two species suddenly show up at a confrence for no reason other than 'showing up' usually reads poorly.

But I do like your ideas...the Var have been having some long term conflicts with 'long range' alien species in defending New Shiron (dead player). I suppose the Var could 'drop in' to investigate beleiving that their enemies had returned again.

I need to investigate your species ideas from above...

I was just throwing out ideas that came to mind. Having two species suddenly show up at a confrence for no reason other than 'showing up' usually reads poorly.

But I do like your ideas...the Var have been having some long term conflicts with 'long range' alien species in defending New Shiron (dead player). I suppose the Var could 'drop in' to investigate beleiving that their enemies had returned again.

I need to investigate your species ideas from above...

Check out wikipedia for basics on each; it does a fairly good job. I can also put up a factbook for my race within the week if I'm accepted to give you a run-down on what you'd be looking at.

Just did, and I suppose a 'bio-tech' based race...rather than a 'mechanical technology' based race is an intresting concept.

The Var (LOW) would of course really not like any such race. Then again, they only like humans somewhat...

Just did, and I suppose a 'bio-tech' based race...rather than a 'mechanical technology' based race is an intresting concept.

The Var (LOW) would of course really not like any such race. Then again, they only like humans somewhat...

Sounds good to me - a xenophobic alien race and a predatory biological race. Leaves civilized galactic society as the Humans in AvP...

Which is always fun.

Count me in.

I'm all for this

been a while since i got into this sort of thing

Sounds good to me - a xenophobic alien race and a predatory biological race. Leaves civilized galactic society as the Humans in AvP...

Which is always fun.

Terrans...always getting underfoot everywhere...at least they are quite funny when they are mating...

Can I join? It's been awhile since I rp'ed on NS FT and I want to take my species of aliens for a test run. For those who like stats my factbook will be up soon so it shouldn't be a problem.

Everyone who wants to join will be accepted until the IC thread is opened - but, Mu, I need to know if you're playing aggressive or defensive. That is, invaders or defenders.

Amazonian Beasts, I can see the parallels with 8472 and the Flood there - but since I've never watched Babylon Five or read through the Star Wars Expanded Universe, I can't comment on the Yuuzhan Vong or the Vorlon.

BTW, all my characters look barely out of their teens, no matter what their chronological age - Peter-F.-Hamiltonite rejuve tech is so nice.

After having purged their own galaxy/dimension of life capable of sustained interstellar travel, the bio-aliens are moving on to our own galaxy/dimension to follow suit and continue their path of natural destruction. You could say conquest and extermination are their addictive drugs.

that would be the Vong

hmm this is shaping up to be really good, we have big and small players, perfect way a RP should be this way if the aliens pounce on the small guys we can help, they pounce on us big guys the little guys can band together lol

I guess my aliens will be part of the attackers (sounds like more fun to me), but I haven't gotten to designing bigger ships just yet. All I have is cruisers and destroyers, etc. nothing bigger. So I would be playing a supporting role unless I can pop out a battlecruiser design before the IC thread comes out.

Just have two questions; how big can our (the attackers) fleets be? and how far is this going to go? Will it just be an isolated incident or will this lead to invasions?

EDIT: I had some free time so I just finished a battleship design, but I'm still working out the details. So I think I can go all out when attacking.

oh i do hope invasion, because it means large fleets for a defender like me to fight of and be on par with. I mean AB would know i have massive warships armed to the teeth, not to mention Fighters, Gunships and mechs. So the fleets should make it a challange for us big guys but not so large the little guys are wiped out

This is shaping up to be quite interesting.

And how big would an average fleet be for you SB?

Everyone who wants to join will be accepted until the IC thread is opened - but, Mu, I need to know if you're playing aggressive or defensive. That is, invaders or defenders.

Amazonian Beasts, I can see the parallels with 8472 and the Flood there - but since I've never watched Babylon Five or read through the Star Wars Expanded Universe, I can't comment on the Yuuzhan Vong or the Vorlon.

BTW, all my characters look barely out of their teens, no matter what their chronological age - Peter-F.-Hamiltonite rejuve tech is so nice.

Little bit of a rundown - really I only included the Vorlon because of what I want to do with the ships of what I'm planning, so we can for practicality ignore them. The Vong I'm looking to put as one of the larger factors into the race I'm shaping around with right now - they're a fanatically religious group of alien conquistadores from another galaxy who, after purging sentient species in their own galaxy (before that, getting conquered by two droid races - fueling their hatred of machines), they get blasted up and have to leave, and head to the SW galaxy. There, they come in and basically decide to kill everyone. They lose.

Religious motives for the aliens is something I'm pondering on - I might make it a major part, or a non-factor. Still working out the kinks there.

Mu: I'm planning for a very large fleet for my attackers, if for nothing more than to cause havoc and force a strategic war. Overall, I was planning on invasion for attacking aliens.

it comes to mind that at the moment, all my ships are Stargate ships...though i plan to make a few custom types based around the many types of techs...

My ships are mostly Star Trek based :D

Mu: I'm planning for a very large fleet for my attackers, if for nothing more than to cause havoc and force a strategic war. Overall, I was planning on invasion for attacking aliens.

So, a twenty (not counting support ships) ship fleet is okay for a hit and run attack force? Also, are the attackers working together or is this a free for all killing spree (that sounds sick)?

My ships are mostly Star Trek based :D

My ships are all hard sci-fi. They obey scientific laws, etc. and they don't have anything "too" unrealistic about them. Of course they aren't completely realistic, but they don't have things like force fields or a cloaking device. :p

Well i got my patrols which is 1-3 ships, i got small task forces which can be 4-20 ships, and it goes on and on till the end at a Tactical Assault Fleet at 1500+ ships.


Of course sending 1500 ships to every little thing is uneconomical so fleets over 400 are usually on home defence unless a big threat. So average fleet send out of my territory for military goals is 20-40 ships with maybe 10 or less being large capital ships rest would be smaller ships.


My tech on the other hand gets complex its BSG,Gundam, E7, TA(game), some concepts from Planet side and star wars, mixed with my own original concepts, designs, and ideas

Hmm... I am interested. Mainly because Vuhifell and Kostemetsia are in here, and I know both of them to be grand players. You too, Amazonian ;)

I'm just a little careful here... I play Northern Rangeria mainly as an MT country, but I couldn't resist when Kostemetsia basically just gave me a fleet to play with, whee! ^_^

So... a Terran nation with constitutional monarchy and a few budding colonies in the Prates Cluster. Industrious, hardworking men and women taking their first steps into a greater universe.

Ty, NR ;) Expiramenting with FT is always great for a first test in a controlled situation such as this one - where you've got little to really lose and much to gain in the realm of FT RPing.
Additionally, I'll probaly intentionally target the bigger players like Zaft, if for no other reason than the law of large numbers.

Mu: 20 for a hit-and-run I think would probaly be fine as an aggressor race. Depends what class of ship you're using, as well - 20 fighters, obviously, would be totally insufficient, while 20 dreadnoughts would naturally be overkill. My overall fleet size is going to be in the multiple thousand range.

Me, a grand RP'er? Heavens no! *hides behind low self-esteem*

And anyway, with most of the major players in this RP having ratified the ITT (throws in shameless self-promotion); maybe the trade deal can happen at an ITF conference?

Well, sure... Spit Break, if you wouldn't mind playing the part of a nation signing the Interstellar Trade Treaty? I, Vuhifell, Northern Rangeria and Alversia have already signed.

Also, I can probably safely call up 250-500 ships; a third of the Commonwealth Navy.

mtuli thousands.........ooo challange for me lol prepare the fleets for combat!

though certainly a small amount of ships considering my unofficial numbers in the ship area, i could say, maybe 100-500 from Nebarri Prime for this...depends on what i decide to put into it

EDIT: puppet talking...

I can probaly start on a factbook by tomorrow if we're going ahead full-steam here. I'll make it spartan enough to be a quick-enough read, rather than the epic I'm writing as my own factbook...

Mu: 20 for a hit-and-run I think would probaly be fine as an aggressor race. Depends what class of ship you're using, as well - 20 fighters, obviously, would be totally insufficient, while 20 dreadnoughts would naturally be overkill. My overall fleet size is going to be in the multiple thousand range.

AB thanks for the help. I'm pretty rusty and I feel like a newbie, but thats what I get for not being on for over a year. :headbang: I love this emotion.

My fleet would probably be made up of:

3 Battleships
5 Cruisers
8 Destroyers
4 Patrol Cruisers

Giving a total of 20 ships, but I was thinking of adding a Carrier or two. You know, for a stand-off platform to launch smaller craft and maybe even deploy medium size ships. However, at looking at these fleet numbers, I might want to think about sending bigger ships if not more ships into battle...

AB thanks for the help. I'm pretty rusty and I feel like a newbie, but thats what I get for not being on for over a year. :headbang: I love this emotion.

My fleet would probably be made up of:

3 Battleships
5 Cruisers
8 Destroyers
4 Patrol Cruisers

Giving a total of 20 ships, but I was thinking of adding a Carrier or two. You know, for a stand-off platform to launch smaller craft and maybe even deploy medium size ships. However, at looking at these fleet numbers, I might want to think about sending bigger ships if not more ships into battle...

AB can vouce for me when I say you can't come up with a ship bigger then my Dagger class star dreadnaught. Theres a good reason I only have 3 of them wait till you know why hehehe. Thats a good starter fleet thought for the initial attack, once things kick up you'll need more. One thing you might want to do is have carrier/warship hybrid ships they pack the firepower you need and the air cover you want.

AB can vouce for me when I say you can't come up with a ship bigger then my Dagger class star dreadnaught. Theres a good reason I only have 3 of them wait till you know why hehehe. Thats a good starter fleet thought for the initial attack, once things kick up you'll need more. One thing you might want to do is have carrier/warship hybrid ships they pack the firepower you need and the air cover you want.

I'm not here for the big one. The best I'm going to do is act like a sneaky bug.

So what I'll most likely do is stay a good distance away from the battle. Send in some fighters, destroyers, cruisers, etc. ruin your day for awhile and run away until you stop chasing me. It won't hurt you much, but it will be annoying since your also dealing with the bigger guys as well. Plus I get to test out this missile I've been working on based off of the HARM missile.

However, I might bring in more ships as things heat up.

Hit and run not bad, I got plenty of toys to show off once this gets started hehehe. After all majority of my fleet (except patrol ships) are a carrier hybrid and carry fighter/mechs heh i'm all about hybrids these days it seems, they just come in handy

my assorted fleet for the moment:

Capitals:
10 Hiveship class Carriers
10 Aurora class battleships
8 O’Neil class Battleships
5 Necropolis class Battleships
2 Origin class Battlecruisers
4 Daedalus class Battlecruisers
30 Wraith class Cruisers
50 Ha’tak class Warships
10 Prometheus class Frigates
80 Al’kesh class Attack Bombers
1 Replicator Cruiser

Shuttles:
80 Puddle Jumpers

Fighters:
1,510 Death Gliders
755 Darts
755 F-302s

the majority of my listed statistics are here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=550143

questions, feel free to ask.

Hit and run not bad, I got plenty of toys to show off once this gets started hehehe. After all majority of my fleet (except patrol ships) are a carrier hybrid and carry fighter/mechs heh i'm all about hybrids these days it seems, they just come in handy

Yeah, but a ship devoted to a single job will always be better then a ship that is designed to do that same job as well as two other jobs. I believe it was once said by a wise old man, "battleships aren't made to shoot down fighters... They were made to shoot down the ships that launched those fighters." lol

EDIT: Is there an ETA on the IC thread or are we still planning things out?

The Commonwealth Navy is currently deployed at Dresdene VII, the First Territories Fleet is protecting the core-Commonwealth, and the Second Territories Fleet will provide military support after the aliens fly in. Each fleet (Commonwealth Navy inclusive) is precisely five hundred ships. Plus there's a Third Territories Fleet being formed to accommodate the spares. When that reaches five hundred, a Fourth Territories Fleet will be formed, and so on.

Starting IC thread now; all players who wish to participate after it's opened will have to sign up here and ask for approval. Link will be edited into topic post.

well, I'm not yet a member of the Interstellar Trade Treaty...but i guess i can take a shot at being interested in it...

Link's been edited in - feel free to post. Your initial destination is the ITF facility. And remember, you're only there for negotiations... :D

I am interested in a doing a FT rp, though I'm not sure whether this should be my first FT rp ever.

I am interested, thats for sure

Hmmm... Just wondering. This takes place after the Vuhifellian Civil War, yes? Just trying to figure out what ships I can use.

Probably does lol, how far into the talks will we get before the attack?

AB can vouce for me when I say you can't come up with a ship bigger then my Dagger class star dreadnaught. Theres a good reason I only have 3 of them wait till you know why hehehe. Thats a good starter fleet thought for the initial attack, once things kick up you'll need more. One thing you might want to do is have carrier/warship hybrid ships they pack the firepower you need and the air cover you want.

Debatable. Unless it's a retardedly large steel penis, at which point, it's just a target.

Hmmm... Just wondering. This takes place after the Vuhifellian Civil War, yes? Just trying to figure out what ships I can use.

Yeah. We'll just assume, for the sake of the RP; that the civil war has been won by the Federation.

See here for ship class descriptions. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13471054&postcount=6)

My fleet will be made up of:
1 Galatica Class Carrier
3 Orion Class Battleships
6 Normandy Class Missile Cruisers
8 Prometheus Class Destroyers
4 Daedalus Patrol Cruisers

Total: 22 Capital Ships in total with god knows how many smaller craft like fighters, shuttles, etc. in their hangers.

See here for ship class descriptions. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13471054&postcount=6)

My fleet will be made up of:
1 Galatica Class Carrier
3 Orion Class Battleships
6 Normandy Class Missile Cruisers
8 Prometheus Class Destroyers
4 Daedalus Patrol Cruisers

Total: 22 Capital Ships in total with god knows how many smaller craft like fighters, shuttles, etc. in their hangers.


:o

several of your ships look like mine! :p

I think the most ships I could assemble in one fight would be slightly more than two hundred. Only half of those would be battleships though (By which I mean ships that can battle, as opposed to escort, etc, etc)

Are you attacking or defending?

Defending

:o

several of your ships look like mine! :p

Why do I sense there is going to be a lot of friendly fire in this battle. :eek: lol

I think the most ships I could assemble in one fight would be slightly more than two hundred. Only half of those would be battleships though (By which I mean ships that can battle, as opposed to escort, etc, etc)

Are you attacking or defending?

EDIT: Time warp for the win!

Data was scrolling across a number of screens in Sierra Control. The Cepheid cruiser was quickly directed (in standard binary code) to port 303, with a number of eyebrows being raised at the lifesigns appearing from the ship. 'Non-standard humanoids' (as the briefing officer had said) indeed.

Kostemetsia, I'm sorry if my post confused you, but I'm not docking. Or is "Cepheid cruiser" referring to someone else? In that case please ignore this.

I'm at a stand-off position getting ready to attack. I'll attack probably when things start to heat up or in the middle of the meeting. However, having one of my cruisers sneaking in as a friendly might be a good idea for the first strike with all the missiles the damn things carry...

So I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, but (once again if the "Cepheid cruiser" is referring to me which I think it is) can you edit your post?

EDIT: Sorry for the double post.

*looks over post* guess i haven't been cleared yet lol shame on the rest of you for keeping him so busy

A'ight, had a long day but startin' my intro post now. I probaly won't attack 'till a little later, but when I come you'll know it. Didn't get a chance to start up on a factbook/brief on the guys I plan to RP as, but when I find some time I will.

take your time AB, we are just all getting to the station

'Cepheid' refers to you. And just because you were directed there doesn't mean you're mandated to go there - for example, you can just send a polite denial message and continue on your trajectory.

Sounds good. Part of my posts are going to be recurring flashbacks to partially explain the civilization and individual characters I'm going to introduce, so these could get kinda long.

Kostemetsia is there any one greeting us? or do we just have a computer console with a map to the conference room waiting at the air lock?

think of it this way, in a sense we should loose this battle, i mean we are at the station peacefully and not prepared for full scale combat, we get ambushed by the alien fleet when we aren't prepared so we get our asses whooped we go home lick our wounds look hard at our tactics and strategies, and come up with a plan that might work. As AB pointed out some times the direct path is not the best path