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The 1st Aggresive-Defensive Alliance of Nations Military Olympics


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OOC Disclaimer

- This is a closed thread to all non-ADAN (Aggresive-Defensive Alliance of Nations) nations, and is open to ADAN only, both AAN and DAN segments. While some OOC opinions and constructive criticism are welcome, outsiders are not allowed to participate in any of the events and the judging board will be of ADAN members only.

The ADAN is an MT/EPMT (Modern Tech/Early PostModern Tech) alliance and it's latest thread is linked here (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548021).

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Welcome to the very first Aggresive-Defensive Alliance of Nations military olympics, a place for the ADAN's AAN and DAN segments to flex their military muscle in every genre in the comparitive safety of a massive secret military camp of some sort in an undisclosed location.

Some of the many 'contests' to be held over the next month or so could include some of the following;

- A Demolition Derby with tanks,
- Dogfights,
- A Three-Weapon marksmanship course, involving long range precision shooting, precision combat driving, and possibly shooting while figure skating a Main Battle Tank on ice.
- Hand-to-Hand, bare-fisted combat
- Bayonet fencing
- Shot-put with hand grenades, clout putting and distance. Clout speed-shooting with heavy artillery.

And possibly, if time permits;

- A snowball fight
- A mascot assasination competition
- A Jeep race
- Paintball-Defibrillator-Hockey

The 'contests' will be judged on 'who survives' and the most damage caused, godmodding exempt. Before entering a contest, a very brief writeup for the object used in the contest should be submitted.

First of all, however, Roll Call.

Say 'yo'!

I am Interested!!! Yo!!!

yo!

*looks left, looks right*
*sees no referees*
allright yo

Here of course...
Oh... right.. "yo"...

OOC:

I would normally, but I have lots of work and I am having trouble keeping up with the threads I am already involved in. Sorry.

Hmmm. What is this contraption?
*presses button*
Singing and dancing spews from the mysterious machine, with the only audible lyrics being:
"Yo."

OOC: Geez... You have lost it(and it's funny). Are you sure you aren't force fed pudding through a hole in your throat? OMG dogfighting? Do you think you are funny? Are you a former NFL quarterback? In jail?

6 yos, including me. I say we give a three-day wait for the others, and then we start.

Yeah?

You all got a statblock or writeup or something for what you'll be entering in this?

Precision driving- Handbrake parking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niiyn_sPfFg)

Competition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVq5-RMcxVE)

And now with an M2 Bradley IFV... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc5tDpwjMGU)
And a Leopard 2... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfHbJ0H4uvg)

Uhh...sure...I guess I can lend my attention...

Some of the many 'contests' to be held over the next month or so could include some of the following;

- A Demolition Derby with tanks,
- Dogfights,
- A Three-Weapon marksmanship course, involving long range precision shooting, precision combat driving, and possibly shooting while figure skating a Main Battle Tank on ice.
- Hand-to-Hand, bare-fisted combat
- Bayonet fencing
- Shot-put with hand grenades, clout putting and distance. Clout speed-shooting with heavy artillery.

Some of the events are a bit in disorder...

NS world geography... Now that would be mean...

2 days...

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Okay, raise you hands here if you want to do geography.

*avoids eye contact...hunkers down in chair*

I'll get a list of what I want to do when I damn well feel like it....which oddly enough will be when I'm done with classes for today

Well, HT, look at all those willing volunteers...

1 Day...

I'll be AFC for the weekend, freezing myself in an igloo and such...

You know, crazed camping stuff after 'Hunter' came through and dumped over 24" of snow this week...

And don't even try to raid my house while I'm away, I'll track your footprints back to your hole while you sleep...

That or you shovel the house out, which evens things out... I suppose... I mean, if you want to do a week's worth of honest work in two days, why not?

0 Days!

Wait over. I think the demolition derby will be fun first. What will it be, tanks moving around firing at each other or what, HT?

I like the tank derby idea :)

In that case, we might need to make sure there are some ground rules put in place so that one guy doesn't come in with a Mammoth Tank when going up against some Grasshopper...

MBTs, standard size. So will they be crashing into each other or fighting as well?

SUBMIT YOUR WRITEUPS.

Interesting problem with the "should we use standard tanks?"
http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1730

In short, not really, use what you'd feel comfortable using.

If it's something with heavy armor and big gun, it'll lose the race...
If it lacks armor, it'll ultimately get wrecked...
If the gun simply isn't a good shooter, it'll be fail on the firing line...

Accuracy, ROF, range, tracking rate, and penetration being all considered.

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That said, I'd submit an HT-106 heavy tank.
It may not be as heavy gunned or armored as the 108's, but it still has a central turret and good all-round armor.

Now I just need to figure out an olympic tank crew and pit crew /w/ CRV...
An HTD-108 would make a fine AVRE...

Are we using vehicles of our own design? Because to be honest I haven't created any. I'd rather mod a current MBT. On that note is this MT or FT...

Present. Sorry I am a bit of a geek at times.

EDIT: List coming.

Are we using vehicles of our own design? Because to be honest I haven't created any. I'd rather mod a current MBT. On that note is this MT or FT...

Seeing as this is an MT alliance, I'd guess MT. Doesn't have to be your own design, just whatever your army uses. If it's a RL thing, give a link to it's page. Note, however, that RL tanks are kinda crap on NS.

Yeah, I tend to run into that problem when I RP....However for this I think I'm going to modify one of the current MBT's to make it better

So submit a writeup, just tell us the differences.

Okay, can everyone submit writeups so we can start?

I'll be using an upgraded Chally-2.
Nothing too exciting, just the engine uprated from 1,200 to 1,500 hp, better rounds in the gun, improved Chobham armour. That sorta thing.
The gun is the same basic system, just with better targetting and rounds.

That's me and terror. Anyone else?

Simplest description of the HT-106 would be a 50 to 80 ton AMX-30 due to larger overall dimensions. Powerplant/suspension modifications resembling Strv-103 (900 HP Gas turbine + 350 HP Diesel on a CODLAG powertrain [600 hp compound shunt motor]).

105 ~ 125 mm main gun
20 ~ 35 mm Coaxial
Unspecified 24" ring or Pedestal mount

And yes, it'll be the Hurtian production version (HT-106C3) rather than the crazy Low-recoil Shelliegh 152 mm'ed "D" version and paper-turreted "E" artillery piece, or the promotional test vehicle which was all engine and no internal fuel, or crew anemities...

I'd like to bring three.

Likewise, I'd round out these behomoths with a few (three) HT-101F2 Medium Infantry Support Tanks, and nine HT-101APCs. For longer range artillery I'd try and slip through an HTA-108 and a pair of HTD-108s.

I shoulda just opted for the K2 + NKIFV...

Now for the un-twinked stat-block...

HT-106 "Heavy tank"

Engines: 350 Hp diesel/600 Hp electric motor, and 900 HP Gas turbine
Land speed: Limited to 45 mph (for safety, can be overridden to go faster in emergencies)
Suspension: Hydronumatic with leaf spring and later torsion bar assisted suspension

Maximum land speed on diesels alone: 25 mph
Cruising speed: 15 mph (road) 5 mph (cross country)

Mass: 50 to 80 tons
Range: Up to 300 Miles
Crew: 3

Armarment:
main gun: 125 autoloading with 36 rounds
co-axial: One 35 mm CC-35A cannons with 500 rounds + One 12.7 mm Kord HMG with 1500
Other: Over-barrel and side of turret mounted ATGM rails (5 ATGMs, optional), also function as hand-holds
Universal pintle mount

Standard Features:
-Front dozer blade
-Walk-in engine compartment access panel
-Tow-cables and hook mounts
-Quick-replaceable ammo magazines for autoloader
-Internal resserve space for additional ammunition
-Coaxial guns can be elevated independent of main gun above +65 degrees.
-'Smart' Laser Rangefinder and Fire Predictor, based upon Otagian 'Smartgun' scope.
-Thermal and UV Imagers
-Integrated GPS, accelerometer, and radio into ground Fire Control Unit, for rapid positional override of any compatable tank gun, artillery piece, or close-air-support
-A phone and PDA for infantry to obtain tactical information from tank commander both audiably and visualy.
-Underside crew egress hatch

Armor (not calulated for deflection)
Base: @ 50 tons
turret front: 750mm
glacis plate: 600 mm
sides: 500 mm
rear: 400mm
top: 350mm,
bottom: 300 mm

Max: @ 80 tons
turret front: 1100mm
glacis plate: 1000 mm
sides: 750 mm
rear: 600mm
top: 650mm,
bottom: 450 mm

I thought It'd be one tank per?

Colstream?
Deph?
Others?

i have to admit, i don't have my own MBT of some kind.

Limit involved soldiers/athletes per nation to about 50? 15?
Then allow them to carry whatever they please? (and would it include mechanics and support personel? [I say yes])

Or is there going to be another kind of limit?
Fuel? Horsepower? Tonnage? Ground pressure?

Note that Tonnage and Ground Pressure would be dictated by the host nation's infrastructure.

As I recall one military excercise (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502282)that had a very strict rule on tanks climbing the alps for fear of avalanche...
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I suppose I can cut myself back to 3 tanks (1 HT-106 and two HT-101 IFVs) a SP gun (HTA-108) and a pair of F-4H2 Phantom IIs with a total crew of 15. Maybe a few contractor's trailers to provide better living/working conditions.

And keep in mind, the bare-bones crew for such a deployment of machinery is considered 45...
And they'll have to also compete on stick-fighting, plus keep this equipment functioning under less than optimal conditions.

Too bad I can't deploy a MUHT... As that would require a crew of 30...

K, now onto the people I'll be sending... This is only a preliminary, since I'm not sure if all of them are still alive in my RPs...


General Mark Gatsby, 3rd Hurtian Royal Marine Brigade, decorated combat veteran
Major Stryker, 2nd Hurtian Royal Marine Brigade
Colonel Olga Yossarian, 4th Hurtian Royal Marine Brigade
Lt. Willie Deckard, HAAF Fighter Pilot
2nd Lt. Rick Armstrong, HAAF WSO
Lt Major Pyle Skivinski, Hurtian Army Resserve (Tank Commander)
*.* Hurtian Army Resserve (Driver)
*.* Hurtian Army Resserve (Gunner)
Sgt Ralph Hayes, Hurtful Outcomes Icorporated (Hurtian IFV Commander)
Cpl. Alexandria Sheppard, Hurtful Outcomes Incorporated, (Female Chitzi Sharpshooter)
Pvt. Adrian Vance, Hurtful Outcomes Incorporated, (Male Chitzi tank driver)
Pvt. Larry Gibbons, Hurtful Outcome Incorporated, (Male Khornate Infantryman)
L. T. Dunbar (CHIA Technical Consultant)
'Gorbechev' (CHIA Technical Consultant)
Barney Gumbal (Current director of CHIA operations)

Since I dont have my very own MBT design (yet), could i use a newly purchased M20 Mackall Battle Tank (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501027)? It's a foreign tank I just bought from Aequatio...assuming he confirms my order...

It's a fine tank, I remember buying some custom frigates from him...

Here's my write up for the demolition derby. For that though how many rounds will there be because that will depend on my decision on how much of what type to send.

Demolition Debry Squad 1
1 x TM-3 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529486) - DDSU Sparrow
1 x TM-3 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529486) - DDSU VainGlory

Demolition Derby Squad 2
1 x Jaguar MBT (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529576) - DDSU Agressor
1 x Jaguar MBT (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529576) - DDSU Orion

I think we should limit only the personnel like HT said, but contest should only feature specific equipment.

In this one, your nation's standard issue tanks or similar and recovery vehicles. Yes?

Fifty people per nation, then. yes or no?

For this course, we should have terrain such as high slopes, bridges only able to take a certain weight, and rivers, as well as marshes and swamps.

i concur. 50 personnel each nation and standard issue tanks.

I'll send 49 men then, plus a camera operator named 'Steve'.

I may ned to substitute the HTD-108 in place of the HTA-108 then for the bridges...

On the upside, now I have enough people to deploy a MUHT with...
*Deploys a MUHT for teh lulz*

And yes, it's standard issue to my special heavy artillery divisions...
Which I hardly ever used because there isn't much need for a 12" SPG or mobile ICBM launcher during COIN operations...

It isn't that fast, clocked at about 10 mph average...
Most cars idle at 15 mph...
The upside is that the PM section is almost all engine and finds itself moving large objects quite well. Think ARV or bulldozer duties...

The gun section can pretty much be moved and dropped off, acting as a tracked carriage of towed 12" artillery...

Then there's the ammo carriage, which also helps balance the huge barrel...

IIRC, the largest section wieghs 150 tons, the whole MUHT can come up to 300 to 450 tons fully loaded...

(The PM can tow one section at a time if need be, and have the barrel itself detached and dragged or attached to a special limber to divide the load into 4 groups, the barrel+limber being able to be towed by an HT-101 or an M939 [hard-surface only, after special accomodations])

I think I'll add three M939 trucks and a pair of M984s, because things get fugly when the HT-304 PM (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=74) gets stuck...

So, let it begin?

Seeing as this is a demolition derby, it'd be tanks only. What we all said earlier.

Can I deploy a nuke? Also I think we should make a second thread for the IC stuff.

*sigh*

None of the contests invove nukes, see first post. As IC has been posted here already, it's a bit late for a new thread..

So, let it begin?

Seeing as this is a demolition derby, it'd be tanks only. What we all said earlier.

Yes,

The trucks, jet fighters, heavy artillery and such are just support equipment, and that's what I'm sending for the whole competition, come whatever events may be held there.

Since a truck at a tank derby = "how do I suicide?"
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MILES/paintball Urban warfare LMS teamgame?
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And yeah, this is the de-facto OOC, so start up the IC hub/breakroom so we can show up and then get to work on a decent branch/mission/event intro.

I would also suggest, that since this is the OOC, that ALL OOC go here, leaving the IC as pure IC threads, which should keep Antigr from getting confused as he oft does.

You make that thread then, I have no time.

Up:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13498206

Sorry for the lack of IC, but it just felt wrong posting as you Antigr...

So this is just a tank derby? nothing else like a "tank contest"?

I very much hope that comes later.

Just remember the 50 person limit and that I'm sending a whopping 15 main-characters plus a several dozen supporting characters.

Edit: DANG YOU TIMEWARPING FORUMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So this is just a tank derby? nothing else like a "tank contest"?

I very much hope that comes later.

Just remember the 50 person limit and that I'm sending a whopping 15 main-characters plus a several dozen supporting characters.

Edit: DANG YOU TIMEWARPING FORUMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

o okay then...and DANG TIMEWARPING FORUMS

I'll send in 40 men/women...and some more vehicles/fighters or something

Meg, you do know the IC is up, right?

Antigr, what exactly is going to be done as people arrive?
And why did you have to airlift your force into your own country?

Why secret? The whole point of such a display of military prowess is for it to be public.

So, besides just a tank-race, what else?

Firstly, how many events?
Secondly, what kind of events?

And I thought 50 people per nation was the cap for the entire olympic competition.

I also thought the breakroom would be the IC hub for interactions outside of the competition, but somewhere along the way to/from them.

I suppose I've been involved in too many of these:

Black Ceribrum Operative Training:
BCOT OOC (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543614)
BCOT IC (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542022)
Walk in the Jungle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542555) (split off from main by post 44)
All Bullets Found Home (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543152)

Alpha team:
Alpha team OOC-signup (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545745)
Alpha team Breakroom (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547292)
-Mission 1- (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=546286)
-Mission 2- (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547958)
-Mission 3- (not yet started AFAIK)

I am confused on if the 50 person limit is just for the derby or the entire thing. But any way here you go:

Col. Steven Walker ~ Grestonian Military Representitive
Captian Ferris Track ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU Sparrow
Sgt. Richard Morris ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU Sparrow
Corporal Vincent Serick ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU Sparrow
Captian Jacob Hereb ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU VainGlory
Sgt. Harold Henry ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU VainGlory
Corporal Adam Stevenson ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU VainGlory
Captain Hans Gerig ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU Agressor
Sgt. Greg Right ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU Agressor
Corporal Andrew Tenet ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU Agressor
Captian Robert Orion ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU Orion
Sgt. Kevin Lelike ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU Orion
Corporal Michael Battoms ~ Demolition Derby Squad - DDSU Orion
Air Captian Jeremy Ferry ~ Dogfighting Compition Squad - N/A
Air Sgt. Dustin Gers ~ Dogfighting Compition Squad - N/A
Air Captian Bert Casside ~ Dogfighting Compition Squad - N/A
Air Sgt. Ronald Wald ~ Dogfighting Compition Squad - N/A
Air Captian Brian Winter ~ Dogfighting Compition Squad - N/A
Air Sgt. Ryan Haret ~ Dogfighting Compition Squad - N/A
Col. James Smoth ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Captian Rodrick Hek ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Sgt. Hack Verilos ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal David Lee ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Blake Gervik ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Christian Spacio ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Nick Toll ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Coporal Joel Periv ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Pt. Piere Meri ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Captian John Berrikins ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Sgt. Steven Ferrier ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Manny Michaels ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Derrick Caer ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Eric Icarus ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Joshua Wersor ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Jared Walker ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Pt. Lois Montan ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Captian Jameson Rogerts ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Lyle Hudtson ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Matt Huik ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Homer Damnser ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Jason Agemem ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Connor Kistern ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Pt. Alex Walk ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Captian Fred Armsteed ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Peter Ferity ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Bob Cumfer ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Liam Komal ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Joe Smokle ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A
Corporal Tyler Johnson ~ Infantry Compitions Squad - N/A


Okay so there is all 50 of them and their is Bob, Jake and Drake as the camera crew and will often times become little commentators from the Grestonian point of view, adding a little more humor to this tournement.

Antigr, what exactly is going to be done as people arrive?
And why did you have to airlift your force into your own country?
Why secret? The whole point of such a display of military prowess is for it to be public.

Airlift 'cos it's actually a military base and grounds that I've used in a few RPs past...on an Antigran island somewhere.
Secret only in location, nothing else is secret. hey, put it down to officials being afraid someone will waltz in with a cherry bomb and destroy it.

Greston, 50 people for the entire thing. Derby just features the tanks.

*Silently mouths out "Six... fighter... pilots..."*

Why is no-one post-posting?

Dunno, maybe because they'er franticly trying to invent 50 character bios in an attempt to win, thinking that it'll give them an advntage in the RP.

And neither is having the best tank-wank on the thread.

Which isn't really true...

Winning, at least OOCly, is making a quality RP with what you have, making sound tactical decisions, putting the thoughts onto E-paper, and accepting the losses that resault for the silliest of reasons, or handling when people don't grasp what you are trying to say your men are doing or if you believe they are overestimating their own capabilities (or underestimating yours).

What you send, without knowing exactly what to expect, that is, with what you consider a balanced force, can tell a lot about your RPing strengths, weaknesses, style, and strategy.

I just simply dug up survivors from some previous threads (generally a view of the chars I make that live through battles), added maybe 2 new guys to show the guys that generally don't make it out of the landing-craft, and called the rest 'filler'.

Greston gets random names easy, and fits them into a rigid heirarchy (mine is much more 'fluid'). And he apparently likes his infantry and air-force in large quantitues.

Meg is still a 'fresh slate' nation, meaning he can either invest money into all NS, partial NS, or just all RL weapons.

I don't remember Antigr's style...

Asgarnieu was a navy-air force fellow
Carb was something of a tank
Wanderjar loved his spec-ops, heh, they got stuck in a marsh...
TWSP does things the soviet way, spam spam and moar spam until either the enemy dies or you run out of troops... Or until he gets bored. He's learned some nasty mindgames though...
Leaf's posts invovle hats catching fire evey 10th post.
Blackhelm, the king of plot-twists
Undershi subjugates his victims to torture, shock, and awe, but can be easily overpowered by better shock+awe+surprise, mostly surprise.

That and they may have missed the link to the IC gallery...

I have no style, though I crave naval stuff and land-based is good too.

*Crack Nuckles*
Allright...boys and girls of the Dynamic Revolutionary Olympic team, if you would kindly step on board this aging, yet highly safe c-47 we can be on our way.
*Plane labors into air*
*2 minutes later plane crashes, olymic team resorts to cannibalism to survive instead of just walking the 30 minute to get back to the airport*

Errrrr, right....I think I might have to pull outta this one....it seems my team has, well, eaten it's self...

I think a rallying, inspirational Antigran saying is in order:

"How much wood would wood chuck chuck he'd chuck as much wood as he could because he is a wood chuck"

*Crack Nuckles*
Allright...boys and girls of the Dynamic Revolutionary Olympic team, if you would kindly step on board this aging, yet highly safe c-47 we can be on our way.
*Plane labors into air*
*2 minutes later plane crashes, olymic team resorts to cannibalism to survive instead of just walking the 30 minute to get back to the airport*

Errrrr, right....I think I might have to pull outta this one....it seems my team has, well, eaten it's self...

"I remember when that happened to me. Aye it felt like yesterday. Me an me squad 'ere goin' off to 'Nam and sure as hell as it were we'se damned crashed. There be guts and bones and blood every 'ere that be true. I's had to fight off me ol' buddies with a ragged shoe I's stole from the dead, cold corpse of my pa. 'En I walked off and walked though those god foresaken 'Nam jungles. It wasn't till I came upon an ol' Micki Dees when I knew I forgot to take my penicillin dat 'ere monrin'."

Dead, then?

That's what I am guessing.