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The Shrouded Country OOC Thread

Zoingo
17-02-2008, 16:30
As promised, viola! :)
Zoingo
17-02-2008, 16:41
As per the first ooc comment, I would like to make myself clear with Faxinavia that what i ment to say is that New Songdo is a loyalist city, meaning lots of Loyalists....as in the entire city has them.....
Faxanavia
17-02-2008, 16:44
As per the first ooc comment, I would like to make myself clear with Faxinavia that what i ment to say is that New Songdo is a loyalist city, meaning lots of Loyalists....as in the entire city has them.....

OOC: Right. I figured that out. Faxanavia is basically going against both loyalists and rebels, though. We're trying to drive them out of the city. That ok?
Zoingo
17-02-2008, 16:45
If anyone also needs to use the map there is one

HERE (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newpicturefe9.gif)

and loyalist stronghold areas (rest are predominately rebel)

HERE (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newpicturewithdotsbg2.gif)

Please note that their is a slight error in the fact that New Songdo should also be surrounded by dots.
Lord Sumguy
17-02-2008, 18:49
OOC: so who borders you, other than Greal?
Zoingo
17-02-2008, 23:00
I guess you can border me as well, and I need a person to the NW to be across the sea from me...which I think is part of South Calaveres....

And one more person borders me to the SE..

and Fax...I believe that driving out everyone in the city basicly doesn't mean that you have captured it.... :)

also, does anyone feel that I should just let Red Tide "invade me" (leave him alone in his own fantisy world)?

Attention, you do not need to use OOC: because this is an ooc thread.....thank you your a great audience!
Lord Sumguy
17-02-2008, 23:36
Attention, you do not need to use OOC: because this is an ooc thread.....thank you your a great audience!

woops.
Red Tide2
18-02-2008, 00:17
also, does anyone feel that I should just let Red Tide "invade me" (leave him alone in his own fantisy world)?


EXCUSE ME!?

I have legitemately entered this RP, give me one legitimate reason why you should ignore me?
United kingdom2
18-02-2008, 00:26
Is it alright if I joined in?
Vetaka
18-02-2008, 00:42
1) Zoingo, I am led to believe by your Nationstates Homepage that you are in a region called Sumguys Allies is that just an OOC Arrangement or does it have IC Precedence? If it has IC impact that wouldn't your Allies and Sumguys Fleets be able to intercept a Red Tide Invasion before it made landfall on Zoingo Soil?

2)Red Tide2 which side are you supporting in this conflict? Also Zoingo is the Thread Starter and I was always led believe that he has Mod Power as to who is involved in what is essentially his RP. But thats just what i've been led believe.

3)Vontanas, my guys are elements of Vetakan Defence Force Special Opeations, Their orders are to monitor Buy & Sell Inc activites within Zoingo and if required do what they can to intervene and or facilitate the means for Vetaka to deploy large scale conventional forces.

4)Lord Sumguy your government seems to be setting the pace and making executive decsions regarding the IC situation. Who is on your side and who ain't?
Lord Sumguy
18-02-2008, 00:45
1) Zoingo, I am led to believe by your Nationstates Homepage that you are in a region called Sumguys Allies is that just an OOC Arrangement or does it have IC Precedence? If it has IC impact that wouldn't your Allies and Sumguys Fleets be able to intercept a Red Tide Invasion before it made landfall on Zoingo Soil?

2)Red Tide2 which side are you supporting in this conflict? Also Zoingo is the Thread Starter and I was always led believe that he has Mod Power as to who is involved in what is essentially his RP. But thats just what i've been led believe.

3)Vontanas, my guys are elements of Vetakan Defence Force Special Opeations, Their orders are to monitor Buy & Sell Inc activites within Zoingo and if required do what they can to intervene and or facilitate the means for Vetaka to deploy large scale conventional forces.

4)Lord Sumguy your government seems to be setting the pace and making executive decsions regarding the IC situation. Who is on your side and who ain't?

I'm actually for neither the loyalists nor rebels, but am going to declare the nation under temprorary Hegemonic control and set up a new capitalist democracy under the supervision of the alliance as a whole. Upon the establishment of a new stable government, I will leave Zoingo and he will regain complete control of the nation.

the region has no IC relevance
Vetaka
18-02-2008, 00:51
I'm actually for neither the loyalists nor rebels, but am going to declare the nation under temprorary Hegemonic control and set up a new capitalist democracy under the supervision of the alliance as a whole. Upon the establishment of a new stable government, I will leave Zoingo and he will regain complete control of the nation.

the region has no IC relevance


I see so you basically want to further Hegemonic Interests? So if the region has no IC relevance who does Zoingo border and is their an IC region Map?
Lord Sumguy
18-02-2008, 01:04
I see so you basically want to further Hegemonic Interests? So if the region has no IC relevance who does Zoingo border and is their an IC region Map?

Yes, but at the same time I am also trying to benifit Zoingo as much as possible.

There is no region map, it is an entirely arbitrary region. Zoingo borders Greal, myself, and Soutern Calaveras.
Red Tide2
18-02-2008, 02:14
2)Red Tide2 which side are you supporting in this conflict? Also Zoingo is the Thread Starter and I was always led believe that he has Mod Power as to who is involved in what is essentially his RP. But thats just what i've been led believe.

Officially, I am for the Loyalists, that's just a cover. After the war's over, my nation won't withdraw from the territory its captured until its taken everything of value to my economy.

Also, yes he is the thread starter, but the thread has not been declared closed, nor was it declared closed before I entered. And, furthermore, he actually RP'd with me at one point. So that makes every move I have made legitimate. I want to see if he has a legitimate reason for ignoring me.
Zoingo
18-02-2008, 04:11
EXCUSE ME!?

I have legitemately entered this RP, give me one legitimate reason why you should ignore me?

For several things, most probamaticly....uh...well, to put this from a logical standpoint.....the more "OMG! GO INVADE HIM.... :mp5::mp5::mp5:" type of person is not exactly what I was looking for in this thread. Don't get me wrong, you a great rp'er Red Tide, but you wouldn't exactly fit in this chapter, maybe later you can get your chance, but not today.....does that sound reasonable or logical at all from your standpoint? (suming it all up....your slightly over agressive for this revolution, though I hear Greal is about to go through a bloody one..huh?..huh?) ;)

As for everyone else, not trying to devalue the rep you have built up on NS.....just saying that Red Tide is very very active and agressive in rp's


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UK2, your enterance is debatable, talk to LS first....
Red Tide2
18-02-2008, 04:23
...

Hmm, I think I see your point.

Problem is, if I dont get involved now, there may be no room left to get involved later...

Ah, well, how about I limit my advance?
Lord Sumguy
18-02-2008, 04:25
UK2, your enterance is debatable, talk to LS first....

Im fine with him entering.
Vontanas
18-02-2008, 18:49
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Hmm, I think I see your point.

Problem is, if I dont get involved now, there may be no room left to get involved later...

Ah, well, how about I limit my advance?

Don't stand for this. Zoingo is fragmented, shattered, weak. Your nation thrives on war, annexation, and basically destroying weaker nations. Everything LION or the Hegemony doesn't secure, annex. Which reminds me, I've been meaning to annex some land.
Faxanavia
18-02-2008, 19:00
I've been thinking, and I'm planning to withdraw troops from New Songdo. Zoingo, is there an area/ city which is currently in combat that I could secure?
Zoingo
19-02-2008, 01:48
I've been thinking, and I'm planning to withdraw troops from New Songdo. Zoingo, is there an area/ city which is currently in combat that I could secure?

Shure....well, in a sense...but populace wise, most of them will probably leave to other 'more secure areas'.
Zoingo
19-02-2008, 01:49
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Hmm, I think I see your point.

Problem is, if I dont get involved now, there may be no room left to get involved later...

Ah, well, how about I limit my advance?

Point well taken...maybe taking it a bit slower on me for the just reason that I have the internet as fast as getting a new US president elected ;).
Red Tide2
19-02-2008, 23:50
Zoingo, you wanted me out, TFU over there just got me out. I hereby retcon any involvement in this thread.

Everybody else: The last time I saw The Fedral Union RP in Modern Tech, he ignored some people after they legitametly retaliated against the Fedral Union when he launched a strategic nuclear first strike on Axis Nova. He then tried to retcon the entire thread saying: 'Everybody in this thread is ignored for dogpiling and wank...'

Funny thing is, dogpiling is not a legitimate excuse to ignore(indeed, on NS if you launch a strategic first strike, you can be garunteed to be ignored) and there was absolutely zero wank on either side. He was just trying to weasel his way out of RPing the consequences and because of that, I refuse to have anything to do with him.

If you need the proof, I have to look for it.
Vontanas
20-02-2008, 00:13
Zoingo, you wanted me out, TFU over there just got me out. I hereby retcon any involvement in this thread.

Everybody else: The last time I saw The Fedral Union RP in Modern Tech, he ignored some people after they legitametly retaliated against the Fedral Union when he launched a strategic nuclear first strike on Axis Nova. He then tried to retcon the entire thread saying: 'Everybody in this thread is ignored for dogpiling and wank...'

Funny thing is, dogpiling is not a legitimate excuse to ignore(indeed, on NS if you launch a strategic first strike, you can be garunteed to be ignored) and there was absolutely zero wank on either side. He was just trying to weasel his way out of RPing the consequences and because of that, I refuse to have anything to do with him.

If you need the proof, I have to look for it.

Neither launching strategic first strike nukes or dogpiling are necessarily bad, it's just that they often are executed poorly. For example, I had a nation, Nova Brittanica, that executed an attack. First, a conventional 'warning shot' was sent at an enemy encampment in British Londinium. They, being the Sovereign League, thought that it was nuclear, and reacted as such. Soon, NB's days were numbered, and so they launched everything they had at eight nations to try and make them suffer. NB was obliterated by some ninety-four gigatons, and NB's missiles were mostly shot down, except in one nation.

Anyways, we both followed on, and proved that strikes can work on a large level.

The same goes for dogpiling. The only problem here is there is simply so many nations fighting that it becomes confusing, but it is possible to work out.

And oh yeah, I'm retconning my actions in this thread. No hostile B&S action here, and no LION RRF. From me anyways. I simply don't have to time to do this RP anymore.