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OOC thread for less clutter. IC thread here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13446877).

Order of Battle for Current Akimonadi Forces:
First Fleet
1x Hiryu-class Fleet Carrier (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13033481&postcount=98)
20x Ark Royal-class Aircraft Carriers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13225947&postcount=5)
30x Wasp-class Amphibious Assault Ships (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp_class)
65x Type 73 Battlecruisers (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1620&hl=)
50x Urrite-class Destroyers (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1837&hl=)
100x Type 07 Avisos (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542256)
75x Alfa-class SSNs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_class_submarine)
24x EXTERMINATVS D:<-class SSBNs (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1813&hl=)
60x Newcastle-class Corvettes (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1295&hl=)

Second Fleet
10x Ark Royal-class Aircraft Carriers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13225947&postcount=5)
10x Triumph-class Aircraft Carriers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13225956&postcount=7)
30x Wasp-class Amphibious Assault Ships
25x Type 73 Battlecruisers
20x Type 07 Avisos
10x Alfa-class SSNs
50x Harpers Ferry-class Dock Landing Ships (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpers_Ferry_class_dock_landing_ship)
50x San Antonio-class Amphibious Transport Docks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_class)

Invasion Forces
300,000 General Infantry
1000 M59 Russ Light Tanks (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13337652&postcount=262)
200 T-2 Decebal Main Battle Tanks (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8813565&postcount=35)
200 Fire Arrow Mk.I MLRS (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11109149&postcount=440)
50 Panzerjäger II Penetrator Anti-Tank Vehicles (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9445979&postcount=105)
240 M2 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Bradley)
350 KM 131 Beschützer Light Transports (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13000294&postcount=5)

Aerial Forces
200 AH-72F Viper-Foxtrot Attack Helicopters (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13289520&postcount=220)
200 F/A-121A Morgana Multirole Fighters (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13225110&postcount=190)
300 F-124A Bullwhip Air Superiority Fighters (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13239551&postcount=192)
25 B22 Heavy Strategic Bombers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=530912)
25 SB-22 Sariel Advanced Strategic Bombers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=484971)
200 Supermarine Storke Carrier-Based Fighter-Bombers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13163722&postcount=6)
25 Blackburn Blackadder MSE.2 Maritime Bombers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548087)
10 Blackburn Blackadder MSE.2R Refueling Planes
150 C-5 Galaxy Cargo Transports
50 AC-130 Gunships
Assorted Carrier-Based Planes [I'll try to iron this out later.]

TG for you

Well, there goes my motto!
(which I appropriately nicked off my homeland, anyway)

If we're playing with EA, then what good is all those ships? They're not going to fit through the Dardanelles. Also, I don't recognise your SSBN as real. You said it was for lulz; hence, I don't recognise it.

If we're playing with EA, then what good is all those ships? They're not going to fit through the Dardanelles. Also, I don't recognise your SSBN as real. You said it was for lulz; hence, I don't recognise it.

No one said anything about the Dardanelles...

On that note, TG.

Replied. Also, you may want to look at the military sections of my old and new factbooks...obviously my military is larger in comparison to both, seeing as to how my military is nearly always around 0.9%.

Anything new?

Various notes on the geography of Yanitaria:

Southern Yanitaria (Turkey and Thrace) is very hilly and mountainous, and cliffs mark most of the shore. Roads are narrow.

Many islands in the Aegean, most of them have observation posts that include an AA or AShM battery.

It's winter, so father inland you can expect lots and lots of deep snow. We are also experiencing one of the coldest winters in the last 8 years, with temperatures reaching -30 degrees Celsius on an extremely warm day, and -45 on average.

Anyways, as I told you, I won't be able to participate until I am done with my rewriting.

Why do people "tag" stuff, what exactly is its significance?

Tagging lets you keep track of threads you're interested in; they show up when you search your posts.

Because I use the search feature to find my posts and threads. Only threads won't show unless I posted in them. By tagging it, I can find it quickly.

Also, as to the amount of ships, is there a list of the entire Akimonadi armed forces?

Tagging lets you keep track of threads you're interested in; they show up when you search your posts.

That's daft. All it does is clutter-up perfectly good IC threads, and as Stok says there's a subscribe amongst millions of other search features.

Yani, since there's a link in this thread to the IC, wouldn't it have made more sense if you "Tagged" this thread instead of the IC one? Or just subscribed?

It's not significant. It shows interest now, but there's the subscription feature; use it. Tagging was for the old forums, where you had to sift through hundreds of threads without the subscription feature.

On the account of weather, it's the hottest and most humid weather we've gotten in a while, and the ground is caked with abdomen deep level mud. The roads are better, though.

Stok, shouldn't we show a bit of unity when it comes to weather? It's very odd that somewhere along the border it switches from cold to hot.

That's daft. All it does is clutter-up perfectly good IC threads, and as Stok says there's a subscribe amongst millions of other search features.

Yani, since there's a link in this thread to the IC, wouldn't it have made more sense if you "Tagged" this thread instead of the IC one? Or just subscribed?

Millions of other features? I counted three.

A tag isn't that intrusive, and I don't like the subscription feature, because I don't like subscribing to every single thread I post in.

It's not significant. It shows interest now, but there's the subscription feature; use it. Tagging was for the old forums, where you had to sift through hundreds of threads without the subscription feature.

On the account of weather, it's the hottest and most humid weather we've gotten in a while, and the ground is caked with abdomen deep level mud. The roads are better, though.

Tag.
OOC: So, basically Picts and Akimonad are only invading Stoklomovi and Yanitaria, with Orbath as a third defender. You will not be attacking the rest of the NOP nations? Of which I am a socialist democracy.

I think I should be in here. I'm a (fairly, relative to the age of this nation) long-time ally of Akimonad and I've known about these plans for, as the telegram I posted says, 12 days. I'm not just barging in to dogpile. I know Socialism and Communism are different. Torino's just not really the kind of guy who would spend the time writing "the Communist state of Stoklomolvi and the Socialist state of Yanitaria" when he can use one or the other.

Depending on Yanitaria/Stoklomolvi wanting me in/out and what Orbath does in response to my letter, I'll be posting an ORBAT here sometime.

The "Ignint" thing was a joke. It's from a movie where a guy says "You think I'm ignint?"

Anyways, I think the sides are pretty much even with out another Billion+ nation added in. I'll go on the record as against it.


EDIT: ...must preserve 1,337 post count....

Edit for Oily: DAMN YOU! I want to be all like "YAY! FINALLY!" but not only will it clutter the thread more, but it'll mess up my count! You are so evil!

OOC: If you don't think you should be in here, you probably shouldn't.

OOC: Don' be ignint. Socialism is different than communism, and it clearly says that the RP is closed.


Received: 12 days ago I'm actually planning to invade Yanitaria and Stoklomolvi soon. And what I meant by "secure channels" was "LOL IRC PLZ".

Or something like that.


I think I should be in here. I'm a (fairly, relative to the age of this nation) long-time ally of Akimonad and I've known about these plans for, as the telegram I posted says, 12 days. I'm not just barging in to dogpile. I know Socialism and Communism are different. Torino's just not really the kind of guy who would spend the time writing "the Communist state of Stoklomolvi and the Socialist state of Yanitaria" when he can use one or the other.

Depending on Yanitaria/Stoklomolvi wanting me in/out and what Orbath does in response to my letter, I'll be posting an ORBAT here sometime.

...must preserve 1,337 post count....
SIGGED!

The sides aren't fair. As I've said, populations isn't the major factor in this war. Balancing out the populations does not balance out the military power as you know, as we can only transport a small section of our forces over (as I have pointed out).

Also, please leave the OOC chatter and "tagging" in the OOC thread, its ruining the flow of the thread and is quite rude when the OP specified it as an IC thread. When I said millions of features, I was referring to all the different search options as well. All the same, I really don't see what's wrong with tagging the OOC thread instead or just subscribing to it.

Finally, you can't get on at Caelapes for calling you communist instead of socialist when you believe that syndicalism = communism in Pictavia's case, apparently.

My assumption was that it was to be me, Yani and Stok vs NP and Akimondad, never have I heard Caelapes mentioned. Its not really up to me who is involved, I'm kinda just like a tag along, I think its more up to NP, Aki, Yani and Stok but could you let us know exactly who you plan on having involved?

The sides aren't fair. As I've said, populations isn't the major factor in this war. Balancing out the populations does not balance out the military power as you know, as we can only transport a small section of our forces over (as I have pointed out).

Also, please leave the OOC chatter and "tagging" in the OOC thread, its ruining the flow of the thread and is quite rude when the OP specified it as an IC thread. When I said millions of features, I was referring to all the different search options as well. All the same, I really don't see what's wrong with tagging the OOC thread instead or just subscribing to it.

Finally, you can't get on at Caelapes for calling you communist instead of socialist when you believe that syndicalism = communism in Pictavia's case, apparently.

Gosh, you are really bad at jokes? Chill, I know syndicalist is different from communism. Ever think that it's possibly a jab at you and aki claiming that my nation is communist? In any case I told him it was a joke already as well.

And anyways, Orbath doesn't tip the balance scale, because my military is very small compared to other nations my size, since my doctrine involves quality>quantity, so Orbath's troops (and note, he is governed by the same laws of logistics and practicality as you), It'll bring us up to the level of martial power as the two larger invading nations.

Finally, the reason I don't just tag the OOC thread is because then I'll have to check the IC thread every time I check up on the forums, and subscribing means that I'll have to go back and subscribe to every thread I am currently watching, and it may be that I miss something important like, for instance, my embassy thread, which will then go unupdated for ages. In any case tagging isn't such a big bother.

You can set it up so that threads are automatically subscribed to when you reply to them, and there's a "subscribe to thread" right under Thread Tools at the top of every thread.

But whatever, enough arguing about tags.

I have troops, and embassies in Stok, and Yanitaria, when you all invade, apparently I'm not allowed to be involved, so my troops aren't leaving those bases, which means they will stay under my control, also, my embassy better not get damaged, any Beatusian casualties, means that I will have to get involved, and my troops will shoot at anyone approaching a base they occupy, that are not allies, fyi.

OOC: I was reading through my recent posted in the IC thread and I thought it looked as if it had IC feeling mixed in. I just want to make sure everyone knows that my posts in the IC thread contain purely IC feelings. OOCLY, I remain neutral towards NP and Aki.

Well, this is poised to engulf a lot more people (though I've never had this problem before. >_>).

That said, should this require more people (>_> again.) what would the four other people originally involved* say to it?


*That is, Yanitaria, Stoklomolvi, Nova Pictavia and Orbath.

If it is a war, you can't prevent nations who would be effected or have reason (such as 'terrorist' attacks) from joining. If it becomes an EA-wide war then I guess that is what it becomes, right?

In OOC, Akimonad and the "Communist" Dominion of Stoklomolvi are very similar. We both suppress our people's civil and political rights and have strong economies. We also are both...capitalist...what...

I'm like a Russia; huge land, few people, and lots and lots of conscripts (even though I give each soldier like $200,000). On the note of weather, it could be cold mud...

My ORBAT looks like this:

161,734,356 Military Policemen
12,659,205 Infantry + support

Too lazy to write everything out :p . They're spread out, though the infantry are along the borders.

If it is a war, you can't prevent nations who would be effected or have reason (such as 'terrorist' attacks) from joining. If it becomes an EA-wide war then I guess that is what it becomes, right?

Er, no, I can, since this is NS and not RL. If it's closed then you can't join without permission.

Er, no, I can, since this is NS and not RL. If it's closed then you can't join without permission.

Indeed.

Anyways, I am restructuring my military, but at the moment, I can tell you that my professional military is something like 13 million, but may increase if it takes too long to finish the military portion, and the bare minimum of the cultural portion, of the rewrite.

Police are a bit odd. The professional police, or Gendarmerie, make up half of the police in Yanitaria, equaling 8 million. The other half is the unpaid volunteer portion, or the Civilian Police Corps, who only serve 2 days a month, and 2 weeks a year. They usually provide their own equipment, and are compensated for their service and weapons in their taxes.

@Aki: Is the force in your ORBAT your total force for the entire conflict, or will you increase it after landing? Also, what is your entire military's head count, for reference?

@Aki: Is the force in your ORBAT your total force for the entire conflict, or will you increase it after landing? Also, what is your entire military's head count, for reference?

I plan on increasing it. And total number should be about 67.7 million.

TGs for Stoklomolvi.

I can still benifit on the high seas...right? Even If im not planning to get involved....

Gosh, you are really bad at jokes? Chill

I am "chilled" (and as I have said before, telling someone to "chill" repeatedly does not often have the effect of avoiding an argument), it is merely a statement of fact and my own opinion, not a personal attack. In the spirit of this not boiling down to petty flamebaits, lets not bring this kind of stuff into the thread.

OOC: I was reading through my recent posted in the IC thread and I thought it looked as if it had IC feeling mixed in. I just want to make sure everyone knows that my posts in the IC thread contain purely IC feelings. OOCLY, I remain neutral towards NP and Aki.

I'm presuming you mean OOC feelings mixed in. I assure you I can distinguish between the two, as there are plenty of people I have gone to war with whom I like OOCly. I write fiction, from the perspective of the nation who I play as. Nevertheless, I feel this has also turned this way, especially relevant with my above comments. Fighting someone ICly doesn't mean you have to fight them OOCly, and should you do so you can still argue your point politely without sarcasm. All in all, it makes the RP more enjoyable for everyone if there are no OOC stresses involved, and that's what I hope for.



That said, should this require more people (>_> again.) what would the four other people originally involved* say to it?

I would be interested in allowing the Beatus into the war, since he seems eagre to pparticipate, in return for Caelapes (Noting of course, that Caelapes can only get so many forces over, and Beatus is already in the theatre concerned).

That said, should this require more people what would the four other people originally involved* say to it?


*That is, Yanitaria, Stoklomolvi, Nova Pictavia and Orbath.

Bump. I need responses, people! :p

We are discussing it, and still need to hear from one person.

*cough*

...Most complex thing ever?

No, just took some time to hear from the last person.

We have decided that we would like to keep it at the current number of combatants, with no new additions.

Since this thread is closed, and therefore I cannot take part in the war, would it be possible for me to support Yanitaria and Stoklomolvi financially and with supplies such as food, weapons and ammo?

I am sure Stok won't mind, and I know I wouldn't turn down finacial help, but I have no problem leaving the decision up to Aki and NP. I've already squirreled away insurgent weapons in several nations, but TWSP weapons would allow for better variety.

My rewrite includes the USSY becoming the URPY. That's why I used my new, prettier (by a tad bit)

Basically, I am posting this as an alternative, because the second round of SATs are coming, along with TAKS tests, and I really have to get going. Hopefully it won't conflict too much with my "sitting around reading web comics and ruling a fictional nation time", but if it does, it's likely that posts by me will be very short.

And given that my list of things to design for my army is still long, and I've only gotten to the history portion of my rewrite, it's likely that this thread won't go anywhere soon.

So by pursuing a diplomatic end, we might be able to finish before my first study group meeting on Saturday morning. Further, it can set up a cold war type conflict between the SI and NOP in EA, which would be interesting to watch unfold.

If an invasion does occur, I will probably not take part in it. However, I have embassies in Stok, Yanitaria, Beatus, and HOB. I will keep control of said embassies.