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the proud nation of sammy34 has sad news. up to 275 years ago our nation was a subject colony of the island nation of trushia.we over threw our oppessiors. then 50 years ago after ten years of struggle (started by the trushiaion government) we were able to invade and liberate the peoples of trushia. after nearly half a century of being a province of sammy34, the elected govener of trushia has declared our occupation is and was illeagle and that trushia is an independet nation. i ask the nations of the world stay out of what is an internal affer of sammy34. thank you: president hart.

Blah Blah Blah Condemn Actions By Sammy34 Blah Blah Blah Free Them At Once Blah Blah Blah Beware Armies Blah Blah Blah Good Day.

from: king otto of trushia.

to : all freinds of freedom.

for too long we have struggled for our oppressiors mining uranium for them. we ask for your support in this struggle. we offer (to all allies) a 50% discount on this vauable metal. as of now 75% of the home guard have pleged loyalty to my kingdom and disarming and/or suppression of the other 25% is proceding well. however only the costal guard cruiser JUTLAND has come to our aide. we ask for navel and air support.

Why are you posting this if no-one is supposed to pay any attention to it? Is that OOC or IC? Heard of something called grammar?
'over threw' is all one word.
'govener' is governor,
'independet' is independent,
'illeagle' is illegal,
'affer' is affair.
Read the stickies? Looked at other people's RPing to see how it's done?
And the post is so short and inconcise that I don't really know what is happening!

Please find a better title, learn to spell, learn to use grammar, and don't tell me you're one of those all-OOC people that don't know what OOC or IC is and who litters everywhere with their smilies. Good day.

OCC: Antigr did you know - THERE ARE PLACES IN THE WORLD WHERE ENGLISH AREN'T MOTHER TONGUE. So he have full right to do some misspellings.He just learning.Don't be nasty. OK??

the island lies about 12 miles off our eastern costline is roughly the size of the united kingdom. the major ports are st. john in the north and a number of smaller ports to the sw and east

ST. JOHNS TIMES HEADLINE:

His ryol highness King Otto has made a major announcement. "today i recived word that loylist abord the escort carrier Jim Brown have taken the ship," the king went on to say,"they have have made good their escape and have met up with the jutland". bouth ships are expected to make port later today in our fair city.

[OOC: Even if English isn't your mother tongue, Antigr is right. You could use better grammar and spelling; Mozilla Firefox has a built-in spell checker that checks most English words. Also, if English isn't your mother language, then post some things in your mother language! It makes things look authentic. For instance, a Chinese person speaks:

"When I was little, I didn't get to do blah blah blah. 对不对？ Then, 为什么你可以作呢？"

Y'know? At least make an effort. Read the stickies; they help a lot.]

OOC: Welcome to NS forums, did you read the stickies of the international incidents? They may help you.

the newley minted admiral jim lockhart looked at his new "fleet". how the King expect him to wage a war with just one smallish carrier and a destroyer? when asked king Otto had just smiled and told him to be at the dock at 6:00 am. well, here he was and nothing was happening. Jim had just decided that his royal higness was out of his mind when, a sudden massive eruption of water shot up about 200 yards off the dock. the eruption was followed by three more. when all haze had cleared what he saw made him smile. offshore were two trytion class missle subs, and one ashton attack sub. the missle boats had twenty nukes each and the attack boat would act as escort. the real prize however, was the other vessel. it was nonother then the Vincent James, a massive Regent class submersible carrier sporting unheard of array of planes and bombs. the only thin that Jim could think was "how long has this rebellion been being planed." then he laughed and went to see the king.

OOC: How do you do that? I can't get the script to appear properly...

president Hart steps up to the podem. "my fellow sammeians we have in the past four weeks attempted to talk Otto Putman, or as He calls himself "King Otto XXIII".these talks have not proven useful. we Do NOT reconize his kingdom. trushia has been a part of sammy34 in full for over fifty years. it has been twent-five years sence we removed the milatary govenor and reconized it as a state of our great natoin. how do they repay our kindness and friendship? they take the first chance they can to once again threaten our right to be a world power. this will NOT STAND!!! i have ordered our armed forces to take any and all preperations nessacery to make sure that trushia is NEVER a threat to us again. to this end, i have to say that the friend of our enemy is ALSO our enemy! any nation found to be in leage with trushia will have to deal with our mighty forces. thank you and goodnite.

Yes, that's how dyslexia is spelt. Wasn't trying to be mean. Ah, I have AS, people are mean to me for overreacting. *shrugs*

To: President Hart, Sammy34
From: Admiral Argan, CnC 2nd Fleet, Delkor
Subject: Civil War
Message:
By the order of Tironus, the High King, I am bringing my force to your aid. Here is my current battle plan:
-Combat Group 201 will be stationed outside of St. John and co-ordinate the blockade
-Combat Groups 202 and 203 will each blockade a smaller port.
Additional forces can be brought in as needed, as the 4th Fleet is on standby. Out.

(OOC: Navy Fleet List (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528624))

to: Admiral Argan, CnC 2nd Fleet, Delkor

from presedent hart of sammy34

subject: AID

thank you for your support, be advised that my director of spying has informed me that a Regent class submersible from an unknown power may be in the st. john area. this carrier has over 200 planes and can carry enough enough suppleis and ammo for two mounth at sea unsupported. as WE have NOT been advised by WHATEVER power sent it, we can only assume that it is now in trushian enploy. be on the look out for it and its support.

Seas of Sammy34

The submarine moved slowly, barely running above eight knots, using as little engine power as needed. Slowly but surely, the submarine moved towards the coast. There, it would drop of Pollis Team Six, who would set up surveillance booths around the small country. In case Theoroshia could, it would seize the chance and invade.

Not yet, however. Not yet.

tv reporter on a random street "this quiet port town was rocked just moments ago as an explosion hit the port where the 1ST fleet was preparing to launch to join the blockade of trushia as of right now.." looks off camera to the left "Jim Get That!" camra shifts to show a rolling green mist. reporter again still off camera, "oh my god, it's comming this way!!!" chokeing sounds "can't breath...AHHHH....." camra falls image fades.

-Onboard I.D.S. Venture, Flagship 2nd Fleet. Outside St. John-

Admiral Argan watched the sonar screen, "Are you sure that the message was correct?"
"Yes, sir," replied the radio officer. "I recorded it myself. A Regent-class submarine carrier."
"And you?" he asked the sonar officer.
"I agree, sir," the young man replied, "Sonar did pick up something, but it was too distant to get a clear reading."
"Very well." Argan stood up and moved to the center of the bridge. "Signal the Gondor: I want sonar bouys deployed right away. Light up the harbor."
"Yes sir."
"And have our submarines stand by to aquire the target. As soon as it's lit, fire a dummy torpedo. That should get their attention."

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Onboard the escort carrier I.D.S. Gondor, two V-18 helicopters began to warm up, as their rotors started to spin. The deck crews scrambled clear, and the helicopters lifted up into the air. A few minutes later, and they were over the harbor. The crews slid open the side doors and began to drop small canisters, each the size of a thermous. As each one entered the water, it began emitting sonar waves. Slowly, the crews flew over the entire harbor, then moved to cover the entrance. They stopped as they got near their own line of submarines. Mission completed, they headed back to the carrier to refuel and reload. If any enemy subs were in the waters around St. John, they'd find them...

(OOC: assume that my surface ships are plenty clear of the harbor, with the patrol subs forming a line accross the harbor entrance.)

president Hart sat behind his desk in the oval office and look into the camera, "peoples of the great nation of sammy34, i come before you today to confeirm your worst fears. three days ago an explosion took place in the port city of Benton where our first fleet was preparing to leve for the blockade line around trushia. the sourse of the blast was a supertanker in the harbor that sailed in under a nutrial flag. in side its hold was a massive amount of tr-17 nerve gass. over 14,000 of OUR FRIENDS AND NABIORS lost their lives! i tell you THIS WILL NOT STAND!!! as retaletation we have carreied out a massive fire-bombing of the trushiaian city of Euraisa. said city is currently in a huge fire-storm. our losses were hevay, but i think our point was made! may god save SAMMY34! goodnite."

Captain Banthos Watched the distruction through his parascope. He could see the cloud of gas slowly drift over the city. "What kind of war is this?" he thought outloud. "Do we have anything yet?"
"No sir," replied the sonar officer. "No contacts."
Banthos continued to watch through his parascope. His squadron, Combat Group 203, was in blockade position outside of Benton Harbor. But so far, no military ships had tried to penetrate their line. Ships under neutral flags were told to stay either outside the port or remain docked, but no military targets had been found...

to:Admiral Argan, CnC 2nd Fleet, Delkor

from: Admirl Layton cnc. sammy34 fleet operations.

we thank you for your actions in guarding our harbor in benton. what follows is a after action report for the gas attack. aside from the 14000 civilion deaths, 8000 fleet and army personal were eather KIA, MIA, or hospitalized. the 1st fleet suffered a loss of 25% of material and 67% lossof personial eather dead missing or disabled. expect the the 1st fleet is a compleat loss as a fighting unit. reaming men and ships will be deconetanimated and rolled into eather the 5th or 7th fleets. expect 3rd fleet to join the blockade of st. john soonest. furthermore be aware that the reports of the regent are as now still unconfermed, but one of our sonor enplacements picked up somthing moving 50miles south of your position 6 hours ago. be carful as this is OUTSIDE the blocked line>

the Titin (a bunker hill class attack sub) approched the blockaide lins. capt. kurntz knew that his was the first direct attack on the line, althoue the Vincent James had been able to slip out just as the the line was forming and was now along with one of the tritens that had been out on patrol at the time, preparing to strike at the enemies. his would be the signil that would set them off. as he approched the delkorian desrtoyer. "FIRE FULL SPREAD!!!" six torpedoes streaked out tword their target. "DIVE" the capton shouted and the boat started to go down and away. "Three exploisins sir!!!" sonor reported. now all that was left was the running and hiding.

"Admiral!" shouted the radio officer.
Argan looked up from his charts. "Yes, What is it?"
"Defender DA-25 was just attacked!"
"WHAT?!" Argan jumped up and headed for the bridge. "Report!"
The captain of the Venture turned to the admiral. "Sir, DA-25 reports explosions in their anti-torpedo nets. At least two hits. A third torpedo got through and damaged their rudder and propellers."
"Ship's status?"
"Disabled. I was going to call in a tug."
"No," Argan replied. "Tell them to drop anchor. Remain in position for the time being. We may need their air-defense weapons. Now, how did this enemy ship get close to us without being spotted by the sonar bouys?"
"The attack came from outside the blockade lines. We believe that the submarine was already out before we arrived."
"Get out boats after it!" Argan ordered. "They have fired the first shot. Now we are free to engage!"

Two subs, SPN-72 and SPN-75, had picked up the attacker on sonar and were giving chase. One was cruising near parascope depth, while the other moved along the bottom. Their goal was to catch the enemy sub in a vertical crossfire, and both moved into firing position. Barly a minute later, eight torpedoes from above and below, were heading straight for the target...

sixteen torpedos. sixteen, the captian knew his ship was doomed. "launch the bouy with the prepreared messages." he said. and waited untill the the confermation of the launch before taking the time to take one las breath before the end.........

the huge sub rested on the bottom its long-line antina floting just below the surfice. they waited for the word of the first attack on the blockade line.
"get the admrial it's here!" shouted the radio man. adm. Lockhart arrived and read the message.

to HMS vincent james

have engaged the enemy. outcome not entirely in our favor unable to conferm damage to blockadeing fleet. do DO NOT expece escape, good hunting.

from cpt. kurntz commanding hms titin.

the admrial made the anouncement to the crew. "prepair for operation polar strike we begin in 48 hours. may god forgive us." then he went to his maps and found the fastes way from his position to the DELKOR coast line.
soon fire would rain down on the allies of sammy34, teach them to interfear!!!!!

the triten BOSTOWN also moved, but tword sammy34, "why 34?" the captian wondered to himself as he prepaired the strike team. it was the same team that had captured the tanker for the "terroist" attack on benton. nothing like a little deception in war to clowd things. it had even affected the crew, it had made them laugh at the way his royal highness was playing the press. only president hart insisting that Otto XXIII was behind it kept them from praising the "heroes" of the "oppressed" people. well that voice would not be saying anything for long.

The Delkorian 1st Fleet was steaming in formation, heading home after completing a training exercise (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549424). They were on a course that was almost, but not quite, a straight line between Delkor and Sammy 34. Admiral Darragorn was in his quarters, when he heard a knock at the door. "Enter."
Captain Daron (ooc: picture sean connory from Red October) entered, "You wished to see me?"
"Yes, please come in." Darragorn guestered to a pair of leather chairs. "I wanted to review the 'battle'. Very impressive, you had me totally by surprise."
"Thank you. It was a standard bait-and-switch manuver. I gave you a possible target, then attacked while you were distracted."
"But I knew it was a distraction."
"Until my third group moved in. You fell for the same trick twice in a row."
"Nevertheless, it was a brillient move. You demonstrated your skill in submarine tactics." He reached into his pocket, and removed a pin. "You are aware of the reasons behind this naval exercise."
"To provide our crews with needed experiance, of course," Daron replied.
"Yes," said Darragorn, "that, and to test the skills of one of our best officers." He stood up, and handed the pin to Daron. "Congratulations, Commodore Daron. You have shown that you are one of our best commanders."
Daron took the pin and held it in his hand. "Thank you, sir," he said after a moment. "I am honored."
"You will be transfered to a new command," said Darragorn. "The 6th Fleet."
"I thought there were only five fleets?"
"The 6th is heavely classified. It is made up of the 9 Omega-class missile submarines."
"I see," Daron thought about this for a moment. "I accept. On one condition."
"Yes?"
"I would like to take my crew from the Theta with me."
"Agreed." Darragorn saluted. "Good hunting, Commodor Daron."
Daron returned the salute, "And to you, Admiral Darragorn." He turned and left the cabin. Soon, he was back in the motor boat being ferried to his submarine...

then massive carrier broke the sea surfice 200 miles off delkor just long enough to launch two aircraft. one was a f-22 raptor fighter-bomber equiped with one pulse n-wepon. the other was a twelve-man foster transport chopper. bouth headed for the first fleet at 100 feet. the f-22 about ten miles in frount of the foster. at about 20 miles out the raptor broke for the celining and radar coverage of the enemy. the piolet knew that he was not comming home from this. planes from the first fleet were on him before he came within wepons range of the fleet, just as the first interceptor fired so did the f-22. the nuke shot up to 30,000 feet where it burst sending out a magnetic pulse that would temperaly disable the radar of the fleet just long enough for the chopper to slip by.

the chopper made it to about a mile off the coast before the crew landed on the floats and off loaded into a assult boat. they then diabled the floats and as the boat rocketed on to the beach the chopper sank. the hit team then doned their civies and disappered into the night.

meanwhile, vincent James turned back toward home waters.

(OOC: a little godmodding, but I won't complain...)

Flash message

To: Grd Admiral Mathious, CnC Grand Fleet
From: Admiral Darragorn, Cmd, 1st Fleet
Subject: Attack
Message:
We have just suffered from a nuclear-related attack. There are no reported casulties, or damaged vessels. A lone enemy aircraft used a high-altitude nuclear bomb to disable our radar systems with an EMP attack. The weapon was too small to cause any major physical damage. Enemy aircraft was shot down and destroyed. No damage to defending aircraft. Be advised: Radar picked up another craft heading for the coast, Possibly a helicopter. EMP disabled radar before positive ID could be made. Will continue back to port unless new orders are recieved. End of Message

The reply was swift...

To: Admiral Darragorn, Cmd 1st Fleet
From: Tironus, High King, Battleship Challenger
Subject: Attack
Message:
I am personally ordering the entire Imperial Navy onto High Alert. Continue on course, and take up a defensive position around Belfalas harbor. The 4th Fleet is being sent to reinforce the 2nd, while the 3rd and 5th Fleets will be deployed around Delkor. Please relay the following to Commodore Daron: Upon his return, he is to assume command of the 6th Fleet and proceed to Sammy34 at full speed for strategic deployment. Futher orders upon your return.
End of Message

OOC:Sammy, I have ignored you and your posts. Grammar and correct spelling is needed in NS. Good day.

[NB: I know somebody's going to waddle in and explode in a burst of generic rage, so I'll pre-empt them by saying even if Sammy is dyslexic, he's not being forced to write a post in one minute or in some sort of restrictive time-frame. Spellcheckers aren't perfect by any means, but they're much better than what he's produced.]

to the leader of delkor,

from president hart of sammy34.

am troubled by your report of the actions involving the second fleet. we think that the reason for the attack may be because the enemy may feel too week to hit you directly. they may have put a "black ops" team on your soil. five such teams have been reported to have 'gone over' to the other side. also we have had no luck in finding out where the Regant came from, but we now have been able to put a name to it. it is named after a fomer king of trushia "vincent james". furthermore be aware that spies state that King Otto has not been seen in some days. request that we bouth put a team ashore to locate and if need be eleminate 'HIS ROYL HIGHNESS'.your team would ofcourse be under your command. contact gen. fisher 1st army special corps. for details.

The following message was broadcast in the clear, with the hope that the rebels would intercept it...

To: Pres. Hart, Sammy34
From: Admiral Argan, Cmd 2nd Fleet
Subject: Plan of Action
Message:
Mr Hart. My forces in your waters have doubled with the arrival of the 4th Fleet. Also, I am expecting to be joined by the 6th Fleet. This is a group of ballistic missile submarines, armed not with nuclear weapons, but burst missiles. They detonate above the target and spread hundreds of explosive warheads accross a 2.5 mile radious, and will take out any aircraft below 5000ft. I suggest we begin negotiations via radio with these rebels, as the High King has ordered that any terrorist attack carried out on our home soil will be met with a missile strike on a possible rebel stronghold.
End of Message

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The young sailor watched the sonar screen, his hands pressed against his earphones. He was waiting for something, something he new he saw. Suddenly, there it was! A large contact, non Delkorian, tring to slowly move past the blockade line. It would have gotten away, if the young man wasn't so determined to find it. "Commander!" he shouted, "Contact! Bearing 327!"
"Positive ID?"
"Not one of ours! Looks big, possible that Regant-class sub we were warned about."
"Alright. End silent running! Bring the reactor up to full power! Flood the torpedo tubes and open launch doors! Signal the Fleet for support!" The crew rushed to carry out his orders, eager to strike at the enemy. The submarine SAN-15 started to rise off the seabed where it had been hiding, near the extreme end of the blockade line. Silence no longer needed, it ran up to full power, chasing after its prey, calling for others to join in the hunt. after a minute, three more subs, the SAN-18, SAN-24, and SDN-12, were also moving to intercept. Their prey would not escape again...

the admiral knew he was being hunted as soon as the sonor man spoke. he had three options, one was to turn and fight, the second was to surrender the third {the one he chose} was to run "CRASH DIVE!" he ordered' "PUT US ON THE BOTOM. RIG FOR SIELENT RUNNING!! LAUNCH DECOY TORPEDOES!" he had chosen this areia because of its depth and rocky bottom. it would take time, If they thought any of the three decoys were the JAMES, for the enemy subs to sort out where he had chosen to hide. time that he could use to possably get away. if not, he had orders to launch everything he had. eather way, he knew that his nations hope rested not in one regent, but in twelve men. six in delkor, six in sammy34. the hull made a grinding noise, "sir we're on the bottom!" the helmsmen reported. "ready all planes for emergency launch. also make make ready to blow the tanks." then he waited.

to: Admiral Argan, Cmd 2nd Fleet

from: Frank manson office of international affiers sammy34

i have been told that i am to handle the my nations end of the radio link with you as ambassador for delkor, and we are to attempt contact with King Otto. toward this end president hart and vice-president bosmen have told me to to inform you that nothing less then the return of all lands and property of sammy34 is acceptable. all other terms are up for negotation. contact me soonest with any questions or terms you wish be added.

To: Admiral Argan, Cmd 2nd Fleet
From: Commodore Daran, Cmd 6th Fleet
Subject: Orders
Message:
My force will be in the area in 8 hours. We will take up positions outside the three blockade lines and will await firing instructions.
End of Message

(OOC: Question, what is the max dive-depth of your sub?)

"Sir, contact lost!" reported the sonar officer.
"Blast! Hold position!" ordered the commander. "Scan the area! I want that boat found!" The hunting subs all stoped as, one-by-one, they lost contact with their prey. Knowing it was in the area, they would wait for it to reveil itself, then strike...

resting on the bottom the sub commander knew it had some time to spare if all went according to plan, it would not need to act for at least two days.

OOC: just a note, most military submarines operate up to depths of 800-1000 meters, max. My Theta-class subs, which are based on the russian's Alfa-class, have a max depth of 1300 meters, only obtainable due to their smaller size and titantium hulls. In fact, the Titanic rests about 2.4 miles down, and could only be reached by tiny 3-man mini subs, like Alvin and Mir. Due to your sub's large size, I would suggest a max depth of about 750-825 meters.

[How much, in metres, is 2.5 miles?]

Soviet Aissur, way to not pay any attention to similar posts like yours *looks guilty* and not bother to look at the explanation in any way!

OOC: 4022.5 meters

Or is this a privet party,
I've been skimming over most of the thread,
and reading the opening and closing closely.
So my first question is, could I join in the fun?
My country is smallish and I've yet to fill out
the details of their military,
but I am not a nit picker when it comes to
spelling or grammer.
Only RL tech and tactics.
That would be my second question,
Is this limited to RL tech?
And
Why don't you use a moderator to settle
the odd dispute about factors or capablities
of military gagits and what not?

id like to ask the same thing

the team scattered after entering delkorian lands. the idea was that over the next six hours the twelve men would use their fake papers to board seprate trains with the wepons being loaded by the 'contact' who had met them just off the beach. one of the last two men to board made a big mistake, he had forgotten about the pistol in his tote. as it was being stored over head the bag ripped and the gun fell and went off when it hit thhe floor killing a porter. thinking fast he grabbed the gun and said "GIVE ME ALL YOUR WALLETS". menwhile the transit police was reacting sending a squad tward the sound. as the soldier was trying to exit the train, the policemen were there to meet him. knowing he had no choice, he fired at the nearest hitting him in the chest.

the titin encountered no problems entering enemy waters the sammy34 navy was much smaller then the delkor navy and the loss of the first fleet in benton harbor had left a gap in the patrols as units were reshuffeled in responce. ferthermore, once the team was ashore they were able to use the extencive highway system to their advantage. severial spies were able to scure cars for them and no problems were incountered as they made their way to the captial. they knew that this mission was the most important of the war so far.

president Hart took one of the few breaks he allowed himself to look at his secudal for the next day. besides the usual he was to drive out to look at the damage in benton. the area had fineally been cleared of toxin. with the possabilty that an enemy carrier was in the region, flying was out of the question. break over, he called in his dirctor of THE CIA. "Well bob," hart said, "tell me you know what the Reagent is up to and where it is."

"no sir, but we have confirmed that the escort carrier is still bottled up in the harbor. they have apperently begun off loading the aircraft to shore bases."

hart shouted "DANMIT, we can't force a crossing untill we know what side that DANM sub is on. if it is nutrial, then FINE, if not we must sink it."

"Sir, at least we can still bomb them."

"the've moved EVERYTHING underground," the president retorted, "half that freaking island is living in some cave, subway, shelter or the've just moved into hell itself! we need to eather talk that idoit out of this madness, or force him to his knees. to do that we need boots on the ground!" he had never looked foward to a four hour car ride as much as he at that moment! still, the meating went on...............

[OOC: I know that this is all for fun, but please, even if you are dyslexic at least make the effort to make your posts look more organised. And since you are dyslexic, people will respect you more (or they should) for your efforts. I realise that you may confuse some words, such as "DAMN" with "DANM", or "meeting" with "meating", but at least try. Few will expect perfect posts, but it needs not be flashy. Consider your previous post, and what I interpret:

President Hart took one of the few breaks he allowed himself to have to look at his schedule for the following day. Excluding the routine, he was to drive out to look at the damage in Benton (city, I presume?). The area had finally been cleared of toxins. With the possibility of an enemy carrier in the region, aerial transport was not an option. With Hart's break over, he called in his director of the CIA. "Well, Bob," Hart said, "Tell me you know what the Reagent is up to and where it is."

"I have no knowledge, sir, but we have confirmed that the escort carrier is still bottled up in the harbour. They have apparently begun loading the aircraft to shore bases."

Hart shouted at him. "Damn it, we can't force a crossing until we know what side that damn sub is on. If it is neutral, then fine, but if not we must sink it."

"Sir, at least we can still bomb them."

"They've moved EVERYTHING underground," the President retorted, "and half that freaking island is living in some cave, subway, shelter or just Hell itself! We need to either talk that idiot out of this madness, or force him to his knees. To do that we need our boots on the ground!" He had never before looked forward to a four hour car ride as much as he did at that moment! Still, the meeting went on...

That's how I viewed it. I'm probably just rambling now, and if you wish me to begone, I will do so. Please, though, try to improve the readability of your posts; while I understand your plight, it makes for a better experience for all. I apologise if you are offended.]

OOC: just a note, most military submarines operate up to depths of 800-1000 meters, max. My Theta-class subs, which are based on the russian's Alfa-class, have a max depth of 1300 meters, only obtainable due to their smaller size and titantium hulls. In fact, the Titanic rests about 2.4 miles down, and could only be reached by tiny 3-man mini subs, like Alvin and Mir. Due to your sub's large size, I would suggest a max depth of about 750-825 meters.

OOC: Sammy34, I'm not trying to be a critic. I'm only talking logically. A 2.5 miles max dive depth for that large of a submarine is a little on the far-fetched side. Use my above suggestion. It is a bit more realistic, and believeable. If you want to continue with a 2.5 mile depth, I'm game. Just note that in future RP's, others may complain that you are godmodding, as a carrier-battle submarine that large that can go that deep can avoid almost any kind of attack. Just something to keep in mind for the future...

The officer fell to the ground, as another pulled his own sidearm and fired at the attacker. Three more officers, all in 'RailRoad Police' uniforms, ran to the group, weapons drawn. "Drop your weapon and surrender!" one shouted, as they surrounded the attacker. The wounded officer crawled away, his chestplate still smoking from the impact...

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To: Pres. Hart, Sammy34
From: Commodore Daron, Cmd 6th Fleet
Subject: Bait
Message:
As I understand the situation, you need to convince the rebels to come out of hiding in order to defeat them. Therefor, I offer a suggestion. Give me a position of one of their basses or hideouts, and I will fire a single burst-missile. The damage will force them out, in which case a second missile will neutralize them. Your thoughts?
End of Message

(ooc) delkor, i think your suggestion makes sence. i think 850 is ok.

the black ops solder knew he had to act. he put the gun under his chin and.........

captain jubjub was still confused....... hearing that his ship would be going to the coast of Sammy he had asked his commander why. All the commander had said was ........ "the tzar said so" which seamed it make sense tzar Zachary 1st was usually rite when he plained something but he did not get it get it. fighting with them was one thing but then he heard they where helping the rebels, zachary hated rebels he only officially became tzar 5 years ago when he stomp the last rebel leader (of the old zerabithean empire) face to the ground. he had heard the news 4 weeks ago, now near the coast he was to have the zss zachtar attack a sammy 34 army bace with 2 groups of 3 jets. as he gave the final countdown he hoped to himself that "the tzar was rite"...............

"sir," the radar man called out, "contact 158 miles offshore. looks like two groups of aircraft!"

col. muttern stepped up to the screen. "Where the HELL did they come from?"

"Don't know sir, must be a carrier out there!" the solder responded.

"How could they get that close and who sent them? last report had the brown in port and delkor was chasing that danm sub out near their waters." the col. exploded,"corse and heading on those contacts."

"Sir contacts now 126 miles offsore at mach. 2. heading sw directly for Hartley marine base."

"launch the alert aircraft! wepons free on contact! Alert the president before he leaves for the coast." muttern ordered,"@#$% this war!!"

to: tzar Zachary 1st of German zerabithea

from : king Otto of truisha

your offer of help is accepted and the people of my new nation will do what we can in support of your efforts.

Will redirect an old ( 1980's) Bulk Cargo ship with a manifest listed
as farm Machinery to move course to thirty miles off shore as it passes
the Coast line of Sammy34.
On board the foreward hold there is a sophisticated electronics measuring
suite.
They are listening to the chatter on radio and other unrestricted channels.
Searching for a reasonable explanation for the Cascade States to enter
into the battle without looking like they were aggressors.
The ship is also using passive and active sonar as well as civilian radar
to monitor ships and naval vessels in the area.
On the ground in Sammy34 half a dozen unarmed "observers"
are watching the media outlets in the country to see what it is going
to do against the rebels. They are carrying visa's or travel papers and
are not to engage in any capacity at all. Only to observe and then to
report back to their government.

To: Unknown Carrier
From: Admiral Argan, Cmd 2nd Fleet, Delkor
Subject: Identity
Message:
To the unknown carrier attacking Sammy34, please ID yourself and your mission here. Be advised that our 2nd, 4th, and 6th Fleets (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528624) are in the area, blockading three of the local ports. If attacked by your ship and/or aircraft, we will retailate against your vessel. You have been warned.
End of Message.

The Bulk cargo ship will move clear of any "hostile actions" and avoid
military vessels by atleast thirty miles if possible.
When contacted by any vessel, the captain will send a standard
message that they are a registered cargo ship carrying legal cargo,
and have no interest in any military actions.
Furthermore they will follow any actions which a military vessel with
regards to staying at a "safe distance".
The captain will release all information about who and where's and what's.
So there is no question that they are Not taking part in hostile actions.
( While listening in to radio broadcasts ) and sonar sweeps.

About the displacement of naval forces,
Could we have a map of some sort with the main land / island
and an idea of who's operating where?
And the sticky business bout' this sub, and how it's hidden from
Sonar arrays?
Just one of several questions in my mind.
( Can any one help us out here )

ooc: answers. the sub has some stelth functions, but as you might imanage somthing that size can't really be hidden too much. it relies mostly on an experienced captian and crew, also it uses open water more then being trapped in coastal waters.the idea is that it tries to avoid areas where they might be sighted. as to the the map, i will try to get one drawn up, but i really don't know much about that sort of thing. maybe one of you could help with that?

ooc: I believe that sammy34's sub is hidding by sitting on the bottom at the moment. If it ain't moving, we can't here it...

OOC: i agree we at lease need a map

soon the jets were back from the report jubjub got he learned that although 2 jets were shot down the attack was a success. the base was badly damaged and from a average persons view it would seam as if it was the first rebel victory in GZ (although it was the 2nd the other was the gas attack) and now he had orders to keep an eye on Sammy ship movements. "now" he said "now all that i can do is wait."................

OCC: With respect, just because a sub is NOT moving does not make it
"invisible" nor is it undetectable.
Passive sonar is Listening to the sound of an engine or other vessel.

Active Sonar is Looking For a vessel, by way of bouncing sounds from a point
OR points ( boats ) and listening to the replied echo's.
If an area does not bounce a sound back, Or the returning sound does not
match the ocean floors topography, than by way of adding up the facts a
Sonar crew can establish that "something" is making the sound dissappear.
Now the Reason stealth Aircraft work is because the air beyond the plane
is normally a void on radar, so the fact that "nothing" is bouncing the radio
waves back is how you avoid it.
Sonar is bouncing a sound from A to B, and If along the way it takes Less
time than it should, than there is something between you and the Sea floor.
By Hiding in one place, a submarine is only safe as long as no ship scans that
area.
Most civilian vessels ( large commersial ) have a sonar of say 10 to 30 miles
around the boat, by a mile or .5 deep.
Military vessels and some High end civilian vessels like research ships,
can sweep an area of 1 mile deep to 2 miles deep and 10 to 50 miles around
the ship.
A grid search pattern of naval vessels can ( say 6 ships) can search accurately an area of 50 miles wide by 1 mile deep at 10 to 15 knots...
If they used Towed Sonar arrays, they could almost double the search
area in the same time.
We don't need a map with scale down to the half mile,
we only need a blue blob, a green blob and a large brown and green blob.
Then it needs some grid accrossed it. so we can say I'm in Section A, grid
9...
Or something like that.
And an idea as to how many square miles are in one grid or section.
After that someone could fill in the cities and other points of interest.
But without the ability to say " I'm here, moving there" and " Joe moves
this way"
We're all going blind and trying to shoot each other without ever knowing
who's where.
I'm not riding anyone's back, but we do need some way to co-ordinate
what we are doing, and don't even need to tell each other what's going
on in detail until someone else has moved ahead.

OCC: With respect, just because a sub is NOT moving does not make it
"invisible" nor is it undetectable.
Passive sonar is Listening to the sound of an engine or other vessel.

Active Sonar is Looking For a vessel, by way of bouncing sounds from a point
OR points ( boats ) and listening to the replied echo's.
If an area does not bounce a sound back, Or the returning sound does not
match the ocean floors topography, than by way of adding up the facts a
Sonar crew can establish that "something" is making the sound dissappear.
Now the Reason stealth Aircraft work is because the air beyond the plane
is normally a void on radar, so the fact that "nothing" is bouncing the radio
waves back is how you avoid it.
Sonar is bouncing a sound from A to B, and If along the way it takes Less
time than it should, than there is something between you and the Sea floor.
By Hiding in one place, a submarine is only safe as long as no ship scans that
area.
Most civilian vessels ( large commersial ) have a sonar of say 10 to 30 miles
around the boat, by a mile or .5 deep.
Military vessels and some High end civilian vessels like research ships,
can sweep an area of 1 mile deep to 2 miles deep and 10 to 50 miles around
the ship.
A grid search pattern of naval vessels can ( say 6 ships) can search accurately an area of 50 miles wide by 1 mile deep at 10 to 15 knots...
If they used Towed Sonar arrays, they could almost double the search
area in the same time.
We don't need a map with scale down to the half mile,
we only need a blue blob, a green blob and a large brown and green blob.
Then it needs some grid accrossed it. so we can say I'm in Section A, grid
9...
Or something like that.
And an idea as to how many square miles are in one grid or section.
After that someone could fill in the cities and other points of interest.
But without the ability to say " I'm here, moving there" and " Joe moves
this way"
We're all going blind and trying to shoot each other without ever knowing
who's where.
I'm not riding anyone's back, but we do need some way to co-ordinate
what we are doing, and don't even need to tell each other what's going
on in detail until someone else has moved ahead.

ooc : the sub is using natural formations on the bottom to mask it.

the president was enjoying his ride out to benton, untill word of the air attack reached him. "Danm!" hart thought as his car took a conner on the road that ran along the pladin cliffs. "another attack by that danm sub? he thought to him self,"no, the delkor navy is chaseing it over 1000 miles away in their own waters." the escort carrier was still bottled up, so was it king Ottos rebels or was it some other power steping up. he was just turning his mind to who it could be when, the world went to hell. first the lead escorting suv vanished in flames. then the other escort stopped and deployed the ssu unit that was his personal guard. his diver floored the gas as the team engaged the unseen enemy. they had just cleared the flaming suv when his limo was thrown sideways by an explosin. the driver tried to regain control, but it was too late. the limo sailed out over the 150ft cliff and inpacted the water below.....

OOC: also, if a crew is unfamiliar with the topography, as mine are, they wouldn't 'see' the sub's mass standing out against the bottom. and, assuming that the sub is sitting in place, engines off, crew remaining silent, etc, you wouldn't here it anyway.

oh, and i'm waiting for that sub to do something before i respond...

Yes I do agree that the sub could be hidden for some time, but
it's HUGE. I did some rough calculating, and I'll post the figures latter,
but this thing is atleast FOUR times larger than an American Nimitz
class Carrier.
So Here goes;
Deck Measures in Feet, not Meters; 684ft x 108ft x 26.5ft
total dimensions are; length 1,092ft x 252ft x 39.03ft draft
max speed 32knots with a powerplant of 260,000 hp.
at a cost of 4.5 billion USD

It displaces 95,000 tons ( Surfaced )
and carries the following; Total
2 fighter squadrons of ( QT: 12 ) F/A-18C hornets ( 24 planes )
2 fighter squadrons of ( QT: 12 ) F/A-18F Super Hornets ( 48 planes )
1 Squadron of (QT: 4 ) E-2C Hawkeye AEW ( 52 planes )
1 Squadron of ( QT: 4 ) Viking Anti-sub patrol ( 56 planes )
1 Squadron of ( QT: 12 ) C-2A Greyhound Supply( 68 planes )
1 Squadron of HH-60 (QT: 6 ) helicopters ( 74 planes )

And it's 3,000 sailors to keep a ship,
and all of the point defence, communication equipment and
regular supplies.

But now we've to put all of these supplies into a cigar that holds
2x as many planes, and support people. And keep it all water tight.
And have ballast tanks to submerge. ( 190,000 tons displacement )
Surfaced, and double that ( roughly ) to sink it. ( 380,000 tons )
All of those ballast tanks take up space and weight

A ship this large would only have a hand full of places where it could
hide on the sea floor.
I'm not saying you Could Not build it or Use it.
But it's limitations are so great,
once you do move it, the sound of it's engines would be astounding,
and it would take multiple nuclear engines, which would cause the water around
the boat to heat...
This would be visible by satellites or even boats in the area.
It would also need all of the accommodation's of a Nuclear submarine,
but would not I repeat NOT be able to engage in any ship to ship conflict
without sustaining nearly lethal damage in the battle.
Any damage to a Sub is serious, but an Air Craft Carrier Has to Have
Lots of Open room to keep planes and weapons...
Anyway my point is,
Yes we are working under the premise that this Is Real, and it is out
there.
It wouldn't take a genius long to work out how many holes in the Ocean
would be big enough to hide said behemoth, and How Fast Can It travel
submerged?
Then you draw a circle around the last point it was known to be,
mark off the distance it could travel every hour, and lay this over
a map of the sea floor.
With this boat moving submerged, it would cause the ocean to swell
( Unnaturally ) when it moved. And that too would be mappable by spy
Satalites.
this is exactly how we've hunted Subs for seventy years.

I am not trying to be mean, I like Subs, but if it's a RL game,
we've got to try and hold the theoretical limits of tech.

And I'm trying to Moderate as well as participate, so if that's an
issue to anyone else just tell me?

What is your government saying to it's population about the Civil war?

And what is the general feelings of the population about this war?

And what is your government's regulations about foreign national's
visiting your country?

Can they travel freely on public transport, or private transport's can be
rented?

How is information released to the public in your country?

Is there a free press or State News?

These are all things which my unarmed observers are looking into while
they visit Sammy34.

If there are laws or regulations about or against visitors from doing
/ watching / reading local media sources. I'd skip that part, recall
my people and continue on in the war.

Just trying to get some reconnaissance is all.

Is it possible for my cargo ship to land her cargo in a Sammy34 port?

Are your Navies engaging in " Interdictions" , Are they warning off civilian
vessels?

Or simply ignoring non-combatants?

I'm trying to avoid any unnecessary violence with everyone.

general leinpole had just entered the room when the meting started he went to his seat with 7 other top military personal then the tzar came in and the meting began..........

The Benevolent Dictator had taken an interest in the
plight of these poor rebels who were seeking freedom for
their nation Island.
It reminded him of the glorious beginings of his own nation which
had started with Vancouver Island and Seatle.
Now he saw an opportunity for his own country to spread the freedom
which his own enjoyed.
So he summoned up his military Generals and Top comanders,
and they hatched a plan.

OCC
I do need to know what other people are going to do about civilain
traffic in the area before I commit forces.

thankyou!

I would just like to sound off,
who's fighting FOR the REBELS and who's AGAINST the REBELS?

It's kind of confusing, and I don't want to end up shooting at someone
who's not my enemy.

I'm also having a horrible time, I've not been able to post in hours...
It redirects me each time but does not post the threads.

(OOC: I support the legitiment government of Sammy34, President Hart. Oh, and Cascade States, let's just let it go for now. I've been talking to him via TeleGram, and have it under control...)

General Transmission...

To: All ships in the waters of Sammy34
From: Admiral Argan, Delkorian 2nd Fleet
Subject: Blockade
Message:
To all ships in the waters of Sammy34. Do to the current civil war in the nation I am officially declaring this area a War Zone. All ports of the Sammy34 nation are currently under blockade by Delkorian submarine groups. All civilian ships are ordered to remain clear of Sammy34 harbors. Any ships that try to run the blockade will be warned off via radio, flag, and light signals. If a ship still tries to run the blockade, we will asume it is trying to resupply rebel forces and WILL be fired upon, without exception. This message will continue to repeat until the blockade is ended. All military vessels that enter Sammy34 waters MUST declare their intensions, or you will be labeled an enemy combatant and WILL be fired upon. This message will continue to repeat on all channels.

vice-president benjamin bosman: "my fellow sammieans. it is my sad duty to report that president harts motorcade was the victum of an apperent avalanch while on his way to inspect the benton area. no surviers have been found and the president renmains amoung the missing. therefore i have assumed the role of acting president and as my first act i intendto enter into talks with His Highness King Otto. the point of these talks will be to defuse the current situation between us. thank you and goodnite."

OOC: Cascade just as a friendly tip, write your sentences out to the full length of the line. Pressing enter constantly makes it have poor format and makes it hard to properly read.

OOC: wow plot twist oh and im helping the rebelsl

OCC: Not to be rude, and I haven't checked my nations messages
today,
but I don't think we've talked...
Have we?

I was reading over the other messages, and maybe I'm confused
( I'm on 7 cups coffee in one sitting and up for 16 hours ? )
But yea.

Just wondering what about those earlier questions I posed to the group...

Hay I remember The People's Freedom! I went to war with you! About two
years ago, under a different country ( which no longer exists... Sadly )

Oh, How's the map project? I look forwards to seeing the battle fields.

(OOC: Cascade States, two things. 1st, I tend to ignore those who complain about the way people RP, for I believe that if you don't like it, then find a different thread. Second, TeleGram me with all ?'s, and I will answer them.

OOC: Heh, wow. Two years ago I was a pretty big noob. What nation were you?

I was the Armed Republic of Indepenants,
There was a six ? Or Nine country war which you had
asked people to try and invade your country...
But I forgot to log on while I was Out of town and
they canceled my account.
Still that was a good war, are you moderating this too?
I've been talking to Sammy34 about some of the aspects
of this one.
But I think I've got a way to help everyone,

hay, I know you were working out a Map but said that
you didn't have alot of expirence with that..,
How do you feel about choosing a population number ( any # )
And then using Google Earth / some other map service to take
a real island and use it as the "rebel's Island" ?
It would save you much effort that way, and all the bits of roads,
towns ect would be done for you.

Just a thought that occured to us while making T-shirts last night.

If you'd rather make one up your self that's very cool too, but
I thought you might like to take an easier road.

Can't wait to hear what happend with the President of Sammy34.

First, let me apologize;
as I think I missread your earlier post,
It was Early in the morning ( my time ) and I think I read your
message wrong.
Second I always post on thread so everyone can read and evaluate
if I'm wrong. And I was.

I'm not after anyone, I was merely trying to help keep things
in the bounds of possiblity, and As everyone else is Okay for the
Sub, so am I.

No hard feelings ?

Cascade States.

Does anyone know what the population of this Rebel Island is?
Or
What the rough estimate of the Rebels would be?

I'm trying to build up some ideas as to how much of what I should
be sending them when I do enter on their side.
( Pending Sammy34's approval )

Thankyou,
Cascade States.

hay, I know you were working out a Map but said that
you didn't have alot of expirence with that..,
How do you feel about choosing a population number ( any # )
And then using Google Earth / some other map service to take
a real island and use it as the "rebel's Island" ?
It would save you much effort that way, and all the bits of roads,
towns ect would be done for you.

Just a thought that occured to us while making T-shirts last night.

If you'd rather make one up your self that's very cool too, but
I thought you might like to take an easier road.

Can't wait to hear what happend with the President of Sammy34.

ooc: the island is about the size of the united kingdom, so a similuar pop. [about 2mil.] is what i had in mind. they only became a provence of sammy34 after ten years of war, so it orignly had about 5.5mil. people.

That tells me alot, and is helpful !
Cool I'm going to plan some support and supplies now.
When ever you get a map up is fine, I've got enough to work with
for now.

Here Is The Map

the men where looking at a map. "there crafty thous rebels" leinpole said "yes" said anouther general. "how did they get it?" the tzar looked at them and said with a grin " its wasn't easy but now we have a idea of what to do" he looked at them all and said :ok hears what were going to do." 3 hours later the meeting was over and by tomorrow they would launch there first step to bring Sammy down...............

OCC:
Can you give us a scale? ( like 1inch = x miles )

Also for game purposes, can you tell me which if any ports are blockaded

So you Are supporting the Rebels?
If so could you tell me about the disposition of your forces at present?
If you wish to keep it a secrete, could you telegraph my country?

The Dictator had decided,
he called up 5 reserve Cargo ships and ordered them to be readied in 72 hours.
They would have troops called up, supplies registered and loaded.
Then the military planners would have three days to plan their activities.
The civilian observers were recalled home,
and a couple of reconnaissance planes to do fly overs of the island,
and territorial waters.
Also a KC refueling airplane,
a AWAC surveillance plane
and an escort of six F-35JSF fighters.

they were carefull in the flight plan to avoid national airspace, and
never got within fifty miles of any other nations Navy or Air powers.

yes im helping the rebels as for the other thing for the sake of the rp i will tell you some of it

1 aircraft career zss zachtar
2 destroyers (defending the career)
100,000 men active and ready to fight (but no yet)
250,000 reserves
250 jets
1,550 tanks active and ready to move (when told)

all other info id rather not say for the sake of the rp since they will be important for it.
note. im not saying that i have a non large army but if i was to invade now this is all i could send.

If I might suggest,
You'll need more than just tanks and infantry,
there's support and logistics to consider,
who's going to fuel your tanks, feed your men,
work on tanks when they get shot up...
Don't forget that there's a Huge Army, but only a few fighting men.
Most of an army is guys ( and girls) supplying the troops with food,
bullets and gas.
Otherwise, you'll get shot up and have no medics, mechanics, or
other essentials.
Thankyou for including me in your plan,
I will send you more on what I'm doing as soon as I can budget my
own country and military.

How long he lay on the rocky out-cropping, the man did not know. he only knew that he had to get out of the weather, it looked like rain was comming in. if he wanted to live long enough to be founnd he had to move under cover. going up was inpossable, he was in too rough of a shape to try the 50 degree incline, down while it would be painful was doable. so, down he went untill he came to a long white beach. "north or south?" he asked himself."not that it matters." bouth bein equil, he flipped a coin. "north it is" he said. ather a long time (he still was having trouble telling how long and his watch was a complete loss) he literly stumbled onto a rundown fishing shed. opening the door he entered then for the first time he really took stock of himself. he had a badly banged up, possably broken left sholder. his right forarm had what looked to be eather a bad 2nd or minor 3rd degree burn on the back hand side from wrist to elbow. his ears wouldn't stop ringing other then that, he only had a few minor cut and bruses. not bad concerdering what had happened. then he took stock of the shed. not that there was much, no food but there was a few rods and reels and a tackle box {he probly wouldn't starve}. he had a chair, a stove, fire wood, and....a radio. "Now we're talking",he thought. he turned it on:

"laides and gentlemen the vice-president" the voice said. "my fellow sammieans. it is my sad duty to report that president harts motorcade was the victum of an apperent avalanch while on his way to inspect the benton area. no surviers have been found and the president renmains amoung the missing. therefore i have assumed the role of acting president and as my first act i intendto enter into talks with His Highness King Otto. the point of these talks will be to defuse the current situation between us. thank you and goodnite."

"WHAT HELL????" The man yelled, "HAS EVRYONE LOST THEIR MINDS???"

Which country does King Otto run?

the Bulk cargo Ship makes it's was slowly down the coast between the two
land masses towards her next destination. A large port town on the West side
of Sammy34. The old engines slogging away, and the intelligence operators
inside the hold listening to the Vice-president's speech to his citizens of Sammy34. And continued to monitor civilian and military traffic of naval / air
forces in the area ( Radar 50 miles ) and ( Sonar 30 miles ).

OOC: Casscade states, are youe freighters running my blockade?

Otto is the thruisaion rebel leader, the large island provance that is just east of sammy34. DELKOR is,at my request, is engageing in a blockade. read my first post in this thread for a history. his capatial is st. john. also i had to make their main navial threat <the sub-carrier> an inpressive beast because they have almost no other navy. i had to come up with a way to make it plasuable that my navy and army just did'nt invade. that would have made the game much shorter then i inted for it to be. hope this clears up any outstanding uestions. if you have or eather post them or messige me. thank you!


:)

well theres more(like medics and all that) but id rather not tell you its like what i said i did not tell you everything and i wont

Oh, nope, I wasn't sure what the blockade was like.
If your ships demand it to move off the captain will do so, and keep as
far clear as your Navy declares.
( I wasn't sure that there was a blockade but I did ask a while back. )

Yes that clears up my questions about King Otto.
Thankyou.

From the Benevolent Dictator of The Armed Republic of Cascade States

Thankyou for letting us know some of your plans for troops.

We are gathering our forces to assist in helping the coming conflict
to a swift end.

Good luck and good hunting.

as he positioned his fleet to join the delkor navy,adrmeral archer looked over the 3rd fleets order of battle for the blockade. with just two carriers to cover four ports, he would be counting on the delkor to do alot more then he really liked. it wasn't that he did'nt trust them, no nation was a stronger supporter of sammy34 then delkor. it was just that sammy should'nt have needed the help to much was happening. things had moved too far and too fast for a rebellion that untill a few weeks ago had'nt even exesisted. on top of that,their FIRST attack they crippled the one force that had a chance of ending things quickly. it would take mounths to decon the ships of the 1st fleet and even longer to replace the personal lost. untill then sammy had only the carrier battle groups of the 3rd as power projection assests with the 7th being used as home defence/reserve fleet untill the reserve fleet could be taken out of mothballs.

The Air wing which was flying over the Ocean 100 miles off the Sammy34 Coast
took note of the naval deployment, and it's assets.

OCC ( can we find out roughly how many ships / their approx sizes? )

IC; These were reported back to the Home Land, and The Air Comander's
relayed the information to heads of other departments.

OOC: Click HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528624) for my Fleet Listings. My 2nd and 4th Fleets are blockading, their groups are spread out evenly between the three ports Sammy34 mentioned earlyier (will edit this with names in a moment). My 6th Fleet is holding postion outside Sammy34 waters, waiting for strike orders. My 1st Fleet was returning to Delkor when it was attacked by Sammy34's EMP bomb. I hope this clears it up a little...

Cascade States, as I am only blockading three ports at this time, you can get your ship into another port...

The Captain will return out to sea, as he has received orders to avoid a military
incident. And is going back out to Sea, but will go "around the Island" instead
of trying to turn around in the shipping lines. This will take a couple of days as the captain has reported Engine trouble and a faulty rudder.
He has asked for assistance from his Company's near by frieghters, and will
meet them On the West Coast in four days or less.
The Captain slows to ten knots and keeps two men on look out at watch
while they thread the space between the contested waters.

"After all these years," Bosman thought, "twenty years in the senate, befor that five as govener of third prefex and the last five as VEEP to that @#$^er HART." He had expended a llot of time and money to get into the presidents office and he had no intentions of wasteing it. everything he had done had been in the best intrests of the nation. lieing to them about what happened to hart really was for the best. if he had told the truth, their would be no way to turn back the tide of war. no, war was the last thing a nation as small as sammy34 could take..........

Cascade States Bulk Cargo ship is one day out from port.
The C.S. ship " Lead Zeplin" ( Lame I know, but needed a name )
Is a 50,000 GT, ship with a cargo hold of 30,000T. She is making about
10kts with Her Normal cargo plus about 10T of Repair equipment and materials.
Should be there in another 24hours, The Captain does not wish to make top
speed unless necessary.

The Cascade States Ship Lead Zeplin is 12 hours out from
meeting her counter part.
The Captain was informed that the other vessel was having more
trouble with it's rudder and had strayed in and out of civilian shipping lanes
and into the Naval blockade zone.
They had not lost all control yet and were still trying to head back out into
clear waters.

The two ships slow and come side by side.
Lines are set up and they draw together,
Now the business of fixing the broken parts can replaced.

OOC: I have been waiting for Sammy34, as there is nothing I can really respond to...

a truck came to the gates of the capital building of Sammy34 carrying cleaning supplies after a few min the truck was allowed in two men came in the building with the stuff then with no one looking they opened secret compartments in the bolls an boxs of cleaning stuff to reveal bombs they placed them carefully in the janitors room set them for 30 min and left. an hour later in the meting place they heard what they wanted to hear........THE CAPITAL BUILDING IS ON FIRE I REPEAT THE CAPITAL BUILDING IS ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

((OOC: God moding. Penalty 5 yards on the offence.))

OOC:um ok?

Seeing as that was totally uncalled for and random.

Three Hours Later, Jenkins Finally Saw The Royal Float Round The Conner, "houndog This Eyes, We're On." He Said To The Sniper. Then
Things Happened All At Once. A Palace Guards' Head Snapped Tward The Parking Garage And Dove Into What He Assumed Was The King Just As The Sniper Fireed.

The Team, Now Down To Eleven Worked Its' Way Into Position Two Weeks It Had Taken To Get A Line On The King. It Didn't Help That Their Sniper And Lean Computer Hacker Had Had To Blow His Head Off Shortly After Arrivial. It Had Been A Streach To Find The High Kings Location, At First They Had Heard That He Was On His Personal Battleship [i]challenger[i] That Would Mean They Would Have Had To Goto Plan B {blow Up The Palace}. Then They Had Heard About The Royal Return For Some For Parade Or Other. Now, They Were On A Hastly Set Up Ambush On The Route One Sniper (insted Of Two) On The Roof Of The Parking Structure Accross From As Jenkins (team Leader) Stood On The Street. He Was The Observier And Would Report On The Situation To The Ten Others Who Were Waiting To Help With The Get-a-way. Three Were With The Cars The Rest Were To Take Out The Phones And Power Gride To Add To The Confusion.

A high speed fiberglass boat was launched with a crew of ten men,
and several satalite uplink radios.
their purpose was to reach the Shore of the Contested Island, buy a car
and travel to a near by city.
The boat was carefully painted to be as unseen as possible, the big motors
were burried in the body of the boat with two huge mufflers to keep it as
quiet as possible. They had about five thousand ( USD ) in the local currency
to acomplish their task.
All they had to do was avoid the naval / air patrols.

OCC; My Surveillance airplanes Have returned to their bases. As have fighter
escorts. Hadn't put that in yet.

Capt. Henicy Was Tired, He And His Three Man Crew Had Been In The Air For Over Sixteen Hours.

"sir, Target!" The Ir Operator Said, "2 Miles S-sw.!"

"negitive Contact On Radar Sir!" Radar Man Simmions Interjected.

"@#$!", Henicy Erupted, "probly Another Danm Whale...." Here He Was Five Miniutes From Returning Home, "logg It And Leave It!"

"sir," The Infera Red Op.,mantel, Said "regs Say.........."

"listen John, You Want To Spend The Next Hour Chasing Blue Fish Farts Then You Get Out And [b]flap Your Arms.[b] Me And Bob Are Heading Back To The Big G!" They All Laughed As They Started The Return Flight.

At a max speed of fifty miles an hour, it would take about twenty five minuets
to reach shore. they hurtled over the swells with all the navigation signals
down. Once they reached shore it would take another ten to twenty minuets
for them to reach the edge of the Island's city Cooper. Where they would land the boat out of the way and go into town. Only two of the team would remain
to keep the boat safe and hidden.

I don't know how, but you could goto a thread where some has done that.
And ask them, it might save you alot of time.
I've no idea myself

Ooc: Can Anyone Message Me On How To Link Threads? I Need To Link My Fleet Numbers.

female reporter,"we're standing outside what remaines of the parliment building where congress was meeting to conferm vice-president boseman as the new prestdent." image of a building with a massive hole in the side and no roof." here is what we know, about thirty miniutes ago a van blasted it's way through the gates and rammed the main doors exploding inside the grand hall.vic...ahhh president bosman WAS NOT in in attendance having been taken to a secure location after the accedent that claimed the life of former president Hart. in a press relise, president Bosman called for calm and stated that the trusian king has claimed not to know who is responsable. i'm kim wong, snn."

Could you tell us where abouts your Fleets are with reguards to the East
and North and South of Thursia? I'm only asking For Non-classified information
the kind which planes could see and relay back.
My country has repositioned several Cargo ships in the area to go around the
Barrier Islands, rather than pass through the space between them and the
Blockade.

Could I find out where about's your fleet is with respect to the
East Coast Blockade?
I'm only looking for Non-classified information that my ships in the area could
see and relay back to HQ.
My two Cargo ships are headed South Now at Ten Knots 50 Miles South/ South
West of Cooper.

The Cascade States was redirecting their cargo ships with the "war"
or "police action" disrupting their shipping.
Hoping that the war would be over soon, they had several ships which had
been ordered to carry Consumer goods and Soda to the Island, they decided
to wait it out for now, maybe the Naval blockade would be lifted?
Meanwhile the captains dropped anchor North and West of the Barrier Islands,

the sub zss.baziri had just went back down into the water as captain glent was told they found something. glent looked down at the radar as a large dot appeared, and it seamed to get closer............

Hart knew now that the only way off the beach was into the city itself. he had been told it was clean now, but with the news he kept hearing he was'nt sure who to trust. he danm well knew he could'nt trust that fool bosman. "I knew i should'nt have let the party saddle me with that nut-job!" if he had'nt set me up, he sure knew how to take advantge of the hit attempt. yes, he was on his own untill he could be sure what was really going on and who was who. so, he carfully, painfully began to pick his way north.....

The little speed boat had landed that night on the Island, and now it was hidden
from air craft those with jobs did them.
two walked from the shore to a road with a pair of Mountain Bikes and
small framed backpacks. They headed North to the town of Cooper, once on
the road they made best speed to the town.
One person went South towards Prean, also on a Mountain Bike and backpack.
The Last person Got on a Small dirt Bike and geared up for a long ride into
the main town of the Island.
The cyclists would try and catch a ride with a local driver if possible.

OOC: God I want to throw up after reading this. Your grammar is horrible and the story doesn't even make sense.

GO home whinny uninvited country,
NO ONE LIKES A JOHNNY COME LATELY.

to: Cascade States

from : King Otto III of thruisha,

location: near St. John.

thank you for your help in bringing things with sammy34 to a head. the sale of the regant to us has ment that we are able to keep the enemy off our shores without using the nukes on the tridents. it is our hope that this siutation can be resolved withwout nuking sammy34 or its allies, but we make no promises. we are currently in negoations with the new president of sammy34 by radio and hope to use his own politacial ambitions against him and his country. bosman is a Fool and will be easy to menipulate. he thinks that he is our partner is this conspiracy, HA! HA! HA! we will deal with him in due time!

thank you, OTTO III

to: King Otto III of thruisha,

from : tzar Zachary I of German zerabithea

location:new tree city

greetings i have sent you this telegram to tell you that we are finally ready to attack. it has token longer to mobiles the army than i had anticipated, but we are ready. i will telegram Cascade States of my plan. All you need to do is keep them busy and i will give Sammy34 a taste of zerabithean military power ran by my best general we will not fail. So remember this day as the last peaceful day for a long time.

from president bosman sammy34 via King Otto III

subject: the plan

you will be relived to hear that all proceeds according to plan. as pur requist of king otto i have pulled our forces out of the port aurther area ,on our eastern cost,so your peace keepers can land without any trouble. all is well in hand the public has accepted that pres. Hart was killed in accadent and the hit team has made it to the extraction point near benton.

from King Otto III

subject: That FOOL in sammy34

Bosman actully thinks you are sending "peace keepers" to help him solidify his hold on sammy34. little dose he know that once your forces land, they will begin the devison of his nation between the two of us. by the time that their army knows what is happening we should have the sothern third of sammy in our hands. without effective leadership the rest of the nation will soon fall.

This message is hand delivered to his government's head quarters by
one of my messengers whom we dropped on the island a couple of days ago.
It is only handed to king Otto himself, and reads;
To King Otto,
Since the opening of hostilities our nation has expressed an interest in helping
your nation with the defence of it's Island home.
As well as continueing our tradition of trade with your people.
Our own Military leaders here in The Armed Republic of Cascade States
have been preparing a plan which might well tip the scales in your favor.
The first two parts have already been started,
but Now we Must wait for your aproval before we Can take Military actions;

Do you allow our nation's military assets ( for the the length of this war )
to be placed on your soil, away from civilian developments as much as possible?

Do you allow our nation’s military assets to be used against your nation’s enemies?

Please respond in Yes or No to our messenger as soon as possible,
Yours in Dictatoring,
Cascade States Benevolent Dictator.

Message Hand delivered from Cascade States Embassy in German Zerabithea to:

The head of foreign Relations branch of German Zerabithea. The messenger will ask to see Ztar Zachery I. And will wait if necessary, but that the message is of Great Importance to His and Our nation’s.

To our friend Tzar Zachary I,
Most esteemed Sir,
Our Nation is now ready for the task at hand with regards to the two nations at war. We are only waiting for final approval from the leader ( our mutual friend ) of the nation. As soon as we have received the permission from The Authority we will start our operations. When ( If ) we do receive the GO Order, we will send you a heads up as we start.

From, The Benevolent Dictator of the Cascade States.

Message delivered to the Residence of the Person in charge of Foreign affairs
in the Sammy34 government. It is in the official envolope of our Government.
Sealed and labeled for the President of Sammy34, or his delegate (s) with
authority to conduct policy over military and trade.
the messenger will wait for a reply from the Sammy34.

To the leader of Sammy34,
We the Armed Republic of Cascade States have long enjoyed a good trading
relations with many nations via the oceans and air ways.
However, lately your nation's war with the island and your naval blockade
have disrupted our country's trading. And this annoyance to our Trading companies is becoming intolerable.

We are respectfully demanding that you withdraw ALL forces from this blockade,
and do not further hinder our shipping operations any farther.

If we cannot resolve these issues soon may be forced to take more aggressive
actions in order to restore our normal trading.

The Benevolent Dictator of The Armed Republic of Cascade States,

thought you would like to see what the regant looks like.

this how the benton attack went down

the mighty sub had waited long enough to be sure that the delkor ship were well out the area. slowly they maden their way back trushiaion waters. surfising just out-side the barrier islands, the sent up a small flight of f-22 raptors. the mission was to find and make contact with the cargo ship from Cascade States. they then would randeavue with it and take on supplies for a more extended voyage they could then report on the delkor opperation.

well guys it look like delkor has left us. 13 days no action on his account. :( guess we'll have to assume his forces are being withdrawn to his home waters after the attack on his high king.

OCC:oh well

to:Cascade States

from: tzar zachary 1st

hello i would be honerd to meat you. but first i must meat with my generals on the final plans of the operations how about we meet on a Wednesday the 26th? i can meat you on the battleship zss.leinpole.

I would be happy to meet with you at any time of your choosing,
on your Battle ship sounds like a wonderful plan, as we have no such
capital ships our selves. Our own military is based around less Massive
vessels, though we have seen them as quite a powerful symbol to a
Nation.
Wensday sounds very good, and will make plans for participation in the
coming actions seem less necessary now that Delkor's Navy is not responding
to any hails.
We look forwards to the gathering.
Cascade States

the city was abandonded. hart knew it would be, but he was hopping to get in contact with help. their was no way he could trust ANY fedral government offical. so, the true president of sammy34 made his was to the first fleet head quarters building and used their computers to plan. he looked-up his old friends from his governership of the northern reigon. they seemed to eather be on the run ,in hiding or in local jails. the only exception seemed to be his ex-collage roomate who was out at sea at the moment.he had to worn him luckly the man was a good friend and a computer nut. long ago they had set up a secure encripted e-mail account that he could access anywhere in the world. he sent him an e-mail warning.

to: Vice-adml. Bronsin Cnc research devision 2

from: PRESIDENT HART

reconigition code: ti alpha delta

reports of death greatly exaerated. Do NOT accept orders from ex-vice-president Bosman. acident was no acident need pick-up. am near the unfinished tunnel on the Benton side.

Our ships are stationed ten miles outside the blockade,
Around St. John and another set outside the barrier islands.

OCC; There are two Skycrane helicopters on board the larger cargo ships
to move freight. They can be contacted through normal radio channels.

to Cascade States ships near grand barrier island.

from : admerial commanding hms. vincent james

have taken up position 30 miles n of your position. flight deck is cleared and waiting for your choppers. looking forward to some fresh food for a change. also the jet-a fuel will be welcome as ours is of an infeerion grade.

Captain of A.M.S. Abolth,
Replying to Reagent Class Sub Captain,
We are deploying our Screens to detect Enemy subs;
will begin transfer of cargo's in ten minuets...
Have on board for you; 50tons fresh food fruit and meat.
As for jet fuel; we can supply 1,000 tons by oil tanker near by,
should be in position to transfer with you in two and half hours.
Limited Missile supplies, How much did you have in mind ?
Captain Out,

OOC: sorry for the delay. I had a last-minute work trip. Can someone give me a quick sit-rep?

Cascade States:
OOC: Click HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528624) for my Fleet Listings. My 2nd and 4th Fleets are blockading, their groups are spread out evenly between the three ports. My 6th Fleet is holding postion outside Sammy34 waters, waiting for strike orders. My 1st Fleet was returning to Delkor when it was attacked by Sammy34's EMP bomb. I hope this clears it up a little.
Also, I can't find the names of the three ports from Sammy34's earlier post. I believe they were his largest port, plus two other smaller ones. The sub blockades are at the entrances of the three ports. The surface ships and the 6th Fleet are holding position outside the blockade lines. Please give me the names of those ports, please.

ooc: remember it was trushia that attacked you and attempted the hit on your king. the names of the ports are cooper to the east, bangor in the west, and carvill in the south.

shall we make a time line for this?

from Vice-adml. Bronsin Cnc research devision 2

the following is a message i recived via secure e-mail

to: Vice-adml. Bronsin Cnc research devision 2

from: PRESIDENT HART

reconigition code: ti alpha delta

reports of death greatly exaerated. Do NOT accept orders from ex-vice-president Bosman. acident was no acident need pick-up. am near the unfinished tunnel on the Benton side.

am menuvering to effect pick-up. please advise of any forces avable to assist. do not advise cnc of third fleet untill loylty can be assertained.

FROM: HMS VENCENT JAMES.

AS WE HAVE NOT ENGAGED IN ACTIVE COMBAT AS YET, WAR STOCKS ARE PRITTY MUCH INTACT. AS SUCH, WE HAVE NO NEED OF ARMORMENT REPLACEMENTS AT THIS TIME. THE FULE AND FOOD ARE MOST WELCOME. WE PLAN TO BEGIN COMBAT OPERATIONS WITHIN 48 HOURS. OUR TARGET WILL BE THE PORT TOWN OF PORT ARTHER WE WILL PROVIDE AIR COVER FOR OUR FRIENDS "PEACE KEEPERS" AS THEY LAND. :eek:

The people of my contry has seen it in the newspapers, so i can without loosing anything show this message in puplic:

To: USSV FA P. Deepblue, Naval base 23QW65.
From: Department of war, Vordingborg City.

Engage combat with all the opressors, namely the fleet of Sammy34, You are permitted to use:
5 Nexus Class Nuklear subs (U-YELLOW234, U-YELLOW235, U-RED342, U-RED343 and U-RED344).
the 50 new DEEPRED Conventional Submarines.
All 5 Cuisers at your base.
Battleship BB King Valtemar Victory, Battleship BB King Valtemar The Great, Battleship BB King Valtemar Anotherday.
Use all destroyers and ligth ships in your base (but max 50)

Loose as few men as possible and DON't loose Battleship BB King Valtemar Anotherday, course it has just been repaired for several milions DKK after its last battle.

Onwards to the opressors!
//Department of war
Transmission ended.

I don't know if you've been paying close attention to this post,
but this is NOT a war you want your ships to get in on. This is likely
to be a brutal and hiddious campaign which will decimate multiple fleets.
And in the hands of a layman of Naval warfare it's likely to end in near
disaster for your forces. I am not laying any critical remarks on Sammy34,
or any of the other players in this.
I merely see a huge and bloody series of ship battles which will be costly
to those who have flung their forces into this conflict.
I've no idea yet what's going on with land forces,
But if you're new to the thread, I'd humbly suggest that you withdraw your
forces ( No harm, no shame ).

Captain of A.M.S. Abolth,
has his skycrane helicopters moving freight, at 20,000lbs per load,
and the cargo containters weigh 5,000lbs empty.
We can deliver; 30,000lbs ever half hour?
Refueling barge will have arrived about two or three hours after your
transmission.
Can move 10,000 gallons an hour, is only carrying 20,000 gallons.
Will await for your Nations instructions before we do anything about
entering into disputed waters.

I don't know if you've been paying close attention to this post,
but this is NOT a war you want your ships to get in on. This is likely
to be a brutal and hiddious campaign which will decimate multiple fleets.
And in the hands of a layman of Naval warfare it's likely to end in near
disaster for your forces. I am not laying any critical remarks on Sammy34,
or any of the other players in this.
I merely see a huge and bloody series of ship battles which will be costly
to those who have flung their forces into this conflict.
I've no idea yet what's going on with land forces,
But if you're new to the thread, I'd humbly suggest that you withdraw your
forces ( No harm, no shame ).

The glorious fleet of USSV is not taking orders from a small, immoral and corrupt capitalist contry, we will smash Sammy34 and you if you dont stop trying to giving orders to us!
And a ground battle will most likely be won by the great forces of USSV as there live 100 milions more in USSV than in your little "paradise" and we has whriten to our socialist brothers in the great nation of The Democratic States of TommyV who most likly will help us smash you and sammy34 unless trushia gets its independence!

Stop the empires!
//The Comrade in Charge
A. Holst
USSV

The glorious fleet of USSV is not taking orders from a small, immoral and corrupt capitalist contry, we will smash Sammy34 and you if you dont stop trying to giving orders to us!
And a ground battle will most likely be won by the great forces of USSV as there live 100 milions more in USSV than in your little "paradise" and we has whriten to our socialist brothers in the great nation of The Democratic States of TommyV who most likly will help us smash you and sammy34 unless trushia gets its independence!

Stop the empires!
//The Comrade in Charge
A. Holst
USSV

OOC: i agree with C/S it would cause much bloodshed and it would bore down the tread and also i consider C/S a friend and if you declare war on him ill do the same to you and im larger than ether you or Tommyv so i suggest you back off so we can have a nice rp. (ill be posting latter today i was just checking the tread when i saw this

...so we can have a nice rp. (ill be posting latter today i was just checking the tread when i saw this


Sorry to interrupt, but a good RP? I know that Sammy34 has a dyslexia, but at least capitalize the correct things. German Zerabithea, please read the stickies. Again, sorry to interrupt your post. Sorry to interrupt your post. Sorry to interrupt your post.

Sorry to interrupt, but a good RP? I know that Sammy34 has a disease, but at least capitalize the correct things. German Zerabithea, please read the stickies. Again, sorry to interrupt your post. Sorry to interrupt your post. Sorry to interrupt your post.

OOC: Hey im just trying to stop a argument from erupting so we can continue this rp. Sorry if i spelled something wrong but....... see this is what i was trying to stop from happening.

6 fiters caem out of skey and sweppt daywn and red leedr sed "main canun turn on and it fire lazor bulets pew pew pew they flew awai and get druncked

The glorious fleet of USSV is not taking orders from a small, immoral and corrupt capitalist contry, we will smash Sammy34 and you if you dont stop trying to giving orders to us!
And a ground battle will most likely be won by the great forces of USSV as there live 100 milions more in USSV than in your little "paradise" and we has whriten to our socialist brothers in the great nation of The Democratic States of TommyV who most likly will help us smash you and sammy34 unless trushia gets its independence!

Stop the empires!
//The Comrade in Charge
A. Holst
USSV

the trushinan admeril read the intercepted message and shook his head. " this is getting out of hand. they are going to make things much harder then we thought." he thought, " how are we to convince bosman to go along with things if they become involved?" he continued to think as the refuling began and the last chopper returned to its mother ship. " things really are getting out of hand."

OOC TO Vordingborg: Message me if you want in, maby we can find a way to fit you into the storyline.

Can we run another war in the future, and have it closed to the public?
Maybe password protect it?

Supporting the Island is cool so am I, as well as the German Z,
but you should have asked Sammy34 before jumping into
this thread,
as for TommyV,
you have to remember that this is a text based game,
and if someone launched an attack ( uninvited )all the
defending country has to do is say "IGNORE" and ask them
to stop posting.
People who's countries do not stop posts which are found
to be harassing have had their accounts canceled.
This is a nice little war but is already confusing enough,
I do not believe that it's RP would be better served with
more players, and more people who'd need to be consulted
with before any actions could be fairly taken in game.
If you'd like, there is a good possibility of another
war taking place soon. And it will be a point based system
so that everyone's forces are quantified and comparable.

( I've been talking with another guy who's trying to build a
point base for any one to use in the threads )

But please, do not seek to involve more nations in this
dispute, it will only anger the other people who are playing
now.

OOC: i agree with C/S it would cause much bloodshed and it would bore down the tread and also i consider C/S a friend and if you declare war on him ill do the same to you and im larger than ether you or Tommyv so i suggest you back off so we can have a nice rp. (ill be posting latter today i was just checking the tread when i saw this

I will be out from 5:00pm to 9 or 10pm with family gatherings, last minuet.
So feel free to post or telegram how you would like the meeting between
our leaders to take place, and I'll just fill in the details about my end of the
meeting.

Oh, and that was Pacific Standard Time, because I've no idea what
time zone everyone else is in.
Let me know if this does not work for you?

Supporting the Island is cool so am I, as well as the German Z,
but you should have asked Sammy34 before jumping into
this thread,
as for TommyV,
you have to remember that this is a text based game,
and if someone launched an attack ( uninvited )all the
defending country has to do is say "IGNORE" and ask them
to stop posting.
People who's countries do not stop posts which are found
to be harassing have had their accounts canceled.
This is a nice little war but is already confusing enough,
I do not believe that it's RP would be better served with
more players, and more people who'd need to be consulted
with before any actions could be fairly taken in game.
If you'd like, there is a good possibility of another
war taking place soon. And it will be a point based system
so that everyone's forces are quantified and comparable.

( I've been talking with another guy who's trying to build a
point base for any one to use in the threads )

But please, do not seek to involve more nations in this
dispute, it will only anger the other people who are playing
now.

i have thoiught it over and unless someone drops out, i agree with it. so this thead is officaly closed to new players. i will not change my mind so don't try to do it for me. also to any who has a problem with my spelling and gramor, keep it to yourself. the players have to read this thread YOU DO NOT!!!

OOC TO ALL PLAYERS:

thank you for playing with me i know i have a complated story so i will message you with the out come i intend to us to work tword. again thank you.

OOC: got it

the carrier zachtar moved in with 3 other carriers and 2 battleships. This was one of 4 ship groups including the command ship zss.prince of new ford, under the command of admiral glent. In about 3 hours the zachtar would launch the first wave of bombers to hit strategic points (including the capital) in which after a long bombing run, would sent paratroopers to their main target wile groups 2 and 4 head to the souther side of sammy34. where they will land troops and capture the 2 beaches, codenamed platypus and walrus. with group 1 heading to groups 2,4 and will hold the southern coastline until more ships arrive. Soon the first bombers (with small fighter escort) headed out into sammy34 to begin operation Sammy downfall.................

My actions are limited by conscience that I cannot act until I know that
Delkor is "In" or "OUT" of the actions.
Presuming that Delkor is IN, I will write an IC post.

The shipping companies of The Armed Republic of Cascade States
do now declare that this is an illegal military action.
And that Our ships are no longer going to sit idly by with cargo's while
your nations halt our trade.
We are as of this hour commencing the courses to enter Ports on the South,
West and North of this Island.
( It will take two to four hours before all of the cargo ships can enter ports )

"adrmeral archer " the radio man said as he walked onto the bridge, "sir, we just recived this from Cascade States."

The shipping companies of The Armed Republic of Cascade States
do now declare that this is an illegal military action.
And that Our ships are no longer going to sit idly by with cargo's while
your nations halt our trade.
We are as of this hour commencing the courses to enter Ports on the South,
West and North of this Island.
( It will take two to four hours before all of the cargo ships can enter ports )

danm, things were heating up.
"dispatch dds 125 and 157 to investigate those contacts near great barrier island. i think we'll find more then some innocent tankers. launch the CAP and perpare to meet contacts from outside the engagement zone also in form delkor command of our actions, they're going to be responding too and i don't want any frendly fire. orders to all commands are if any Armed Republic of Cascade States ships approch they are to be stopped and borded. if they resist then they are to be SUNK." there it was done.

the bombers returned and from the pilots reports they found out that they were able to cause some damage. but soon more bombers where out, not with bombs but with paratroopers heading for there target. wile groups 2 and 4 headed out for sammy34 southern coast to begin landing.

ON THE ZSS PRINCE OF NEW FORD.
admiral glent was on his command post. "so far every thing is going according to plan" he said with a grin "as long as after 2 months the rest of the ships come nothing will stop us from accomplishing are goals." admiral glent then went to the intercom and ordered some coffee. he was going to need it.

president bosman was beside himself as he exited the shelter. how could
German zerabithea make such a mistake? they had their landing zone, and King Otto promised that the government centers were off limits. this wad not how it was to go!!!! "i deliver independs and the give me the presidency," he told MR. Baker the head of the CIA," that was the deal!"

Baker thought he knew what was up and he did'nt like it.as a spy ,he thgought thought like one and he knew that loyties changed extremly fast. he had agreed to this stupid plan because bosman had planted some documents that if reviled would have led to the CIA heads exicution. now, the fool had gotten them into a shooting war! "damn," he thought, "should've let them SHOOT me!!!"

"adrmeral archer " the radio man said as he walked onto the bridge, "sir, we just recived this from Cascade States."



danm, things were heating up.
"dispatch dds 125 and 157 to investigate those contacts near great barrier island. i think we'll find more then some innocent tankers. launch the CAP and perpare to meet contacts from outside the engagement zone also in form delkor command of our actions, they're going to be responding too and i don't want any frendly fire. orders to all commands are if any Armed Republic of Cascade States ships approch they are to be stopped and borded. if they resist then they are to be SUNK." there it was done.

What are your boarding procedures?

How long until your ships reach my cargo ships?

What is Delkor doing about blockade running ships?

So here's a run down on the ships, those behind the barrier islands are
sitting behind the red and yellow islands just NW of the city of Carnival.

Ship list behind the barrier islands, as well as off the ST. John’s coast
Ship # 1, “The Popeye”
Small cargo ship Gross tonnage 6,400 Tons actual tonnage; 1,000 Tons
Carrying

Carrier Cargo ship “Dise Dicke Berta”
54,000gross ton ship, with 35,000 tons cargo

5,000 Ton Gross each (QT: 5 boats ) “The Squid Boat”, “The Harpoon”,
“Trawler of the Pacific”, “Gill’s Gillnet”, and “ The Salty Dog “
Each is hanging or trawling ten or so miles apart around “ Dise Dicke Berta”
Moving slowly, since there’s been no hurry to pull in a quick haul.

Research Vessels ( QT: 3 ships ) “ The Hood”, and “Olympia” and “Depot Bay”
Gross: 297 Tons Net: 202 Tons
Will lay a line of East to West of Hydro phones and magnetic Anomaly detectors on a cable which is 200 miles long. Starting just off the shore of Sammy34, outside of territorial waters. And a second vessel which will do the same in the far south of Sammy34 and it’s neighbor nation running the line upto The Island.

Pleasure Boats, “ M.S. Sea Otter”, and “Cormorant,”

Bulk Cargo ships, “ The Ugly Pony” and “ Coos Bay”

Also half a dozen
48' Otam Cigarette Heritage 45
Are playing between the large ships.

( I didn't post the pictures of them as it seemed needless. )

Ship list off the ST. John’s coast
Ship # 1, “Rocky”
Small cargo ship Gross tonnage 6,400 Tons actual tonnage; 1,000 Tons
Carrying

Carrier Cargo ship “Dise Dicke Berta 2”
54,000gross ton ship, with 35,000 tons cargo

5,000 Ton Gross each (QT: 5 boats ) “Narwhale”, “Sealion Sally”,
“Tubby‘s Trawler”, “Glory of Gibraltar”, and “Sea Cow“
Each is hanging or trawling ten or so miles apart around “ Thor‘s Horse”
Moving slowly, since there’s been no hurry to pull in a quick haul.

Research Vessels ( QT: 3 ships ) “ St. Helens”, and “Mt. Tabor” and “Cloverdale”
Gross: 297 Tons Net: 202 Tons
Will lay a line of East to West of Hydro phones and magnetic Anomaly detectors on a cable which is 200 miles long. Starting just off the shore of The Island, outside of territorial waters. And a second vessel which will do the same another fifty Miles passed
the disputed water boundary, and another fifty miles outside the second line. Starting dead North, running East, and then South East.

Pleasure Boats, “ M.S. Puffin”, and “Pelican,”

Bulk Cargo ships, “ Cape Ape” and “ Ocean Side”

Also half a dozen
48' Otam Cigarette Heritage 45
Are playing between the large ships.

president bosman was beside himself as he exited the shelter. how could
German zerabithea make such a mistake? they had their landing zone, and King Otto promised that the government centers were off limits. this wad not how it was to go!!!! "i deliver independs and the give me the presidency," he told MR. Baker the head of the CIA," that was the deal!"

Baker thought he knew what was up and he did'nt like it.as a spy ,he thgought thought like one and he knew that loyties changed extremly fast. he had agreed to this stupid plan because bosman had planted some documents that if reviled would have led to the CIA heads exicution. now, the fool had gotten them into a shooting war! "damn," he thought, "should've let them SHOOT me!!!"

NEW TREE CITY:

general bullbok knocked on the door of the tzars room. he herd a voice "come in" bullbok opened the door and came in. the tzar looked at him and said "wie
hello bullbok, i presume that everything is going ok in the invasion?" "yes well" he looked at his leader of 32 and about 6"2 "i must say me and the others (who knew of the deal) are wondering why you are doing this we were not supposed to invade them and so far you have not told us why!" tzar zachary looked at bullbok and sighed "pull up a chair" he said "i guess you deserve a explanation." bullbok sat and prepared to hear what his tzar had to say. "ok i have 2 reasons for this 1. bosman is an idiot,a pawn to what i have plained. and 2. hart" " but didint he die?"said bullbok. zachary smiled and said " thats what they said but i think he is still alive, i know him he is crafty and i think hes alive, so im shortening the plan." "but why hart?" bullbok said "because this plan has only one threat only one thing that can stop it. hart..........."

Within twenty minuets his crew had been made ready, and the other shipping vessels had reported to him that they too were ready. As his was the largest ship, he would take the leadership,
so he called for the Ships over 5,000t to spread out about five miles apart,

To port he ordered; “Narwhale”, and “Sealion Sally” To Starboard he ordered; “Tubby‘s Trawler”, “Glory of Gibraltar” And behind he called “Sea Cow“
For the first ship called “ Thor‘s Horse” as they had very good Sonar and would be fast enough to move around any new obstacles.
Then To port and Starboard would come Pleasure Boats, “ M.S. Puffin”, and “Pelican,”

Behind and To port and Starboard two miles From “Dise Dicke Berta 2” came; Bulk Cargo ships, “ Cape Ape” and “ Ocean Side”

Cargo ship “ Rocky” was hanging back to near last in the convoy.

The other 48' Otam Cigarette Heritage 45’s are running in and out the other ships, as they are cigarette boats, that’s what they are for.

Forming up in a sort of Diamond shaped convoy, and moving towards St. John at ten knots.

The research vessels will remain on station until they know what’s up for sure.
3 of the 48' Otam Cigarette Heritage 45 are playing around the Research ships,

Ship list behind the barrier islands,

Ship # 1, “The Popeye”
Is sitting Just North of “Dise Dicke Berta” about 20nm and is running Sonar and Radar.

Carrier Cargo ship “Dise Dicke Berta”
Is sheltered ten miles off shores of SW “red and yellow” islands
It is running a 3-D pulse Doppler Radar Reporting the weather every 5min
And Sonar is running passively. The crew is double shifts, one on duty the others on stand bye. There are 4 helicopters using dipped sonar to look for enemy subs 50nm North, South and West of “Dise Dicke Berta”

The “ski jump” has been cleared at the end of the deck. And all “assets” have been activated and are waiting

“The Squid Boat”, Is N NW of “Dise Dicke Berta” 10nm and is running their sonar actively,

“The Harpoon”, is N NE of “Dise Dicke Berta” 10nm and is running their sonar actively

“Trawler of the Pacific”, is S SE of “Dise Dicke Berta” and is just below the straits of “red and yellow Island” about 5nm from their shores. It too is running active sonar and radar.

“Gill’s Gillnet”, Is S SW of “Dise Dicke Berta” 10nm, And is running Sonar and Radar

“ The Salty Dog “ Is sitting 5nm S of “Dise Dicke Berta” and is running Sonar only

Research Vessels ( QT: 3 ships ) “ The Hood”, and “Olympia” and “Depot Bay”
Are reporting any “anomalies” magnetically or via hydrophones through satalite phone and radio broadcasts. If any Subs pass within 10 miles of the lines laid they will be triangulated apon by the sets of detectors.

Pleasure Boats, “d”, and “Cormorant,” Slowed to 12kts, and are running full sonar sweeps S and SE of West side of the lower yellow island in the Barrier islands.

Bulk Cargo ships, “ The Ugly Pony” and “ Coos Bay” Are sitting Just West of the Lower “red and yellow” barrier islands. Both are running sonar and Radar.

Also half a dozen
48' Otam Cigarette Heritage 45
One of each cigarette boat is running a compass rose configuration to “Dise Dicke Berta” the other two are sitting 5nm’s West and South of her.

the XSSN used the flooded unfinished tunnel to sneek as close to benton as it could. when they broke surfice a marine platoon disembasrked and made way into the city. their mission was to find and rescur the "true" president. when the admeril. had odeded the mission. capt. john HART was the natural choice for team leader. after all, who better to get the man then his own SON?

to commander German zerabithea fleet:

from cnc vincent james.

have recived orders to support your landing near port arther. am to place myself under your over all command. will arrivie your position in 24 hours. await orders.

lt. hester of dds 125 readied his ship for bording action.

"still no responce skipper." the radio orperator said after the third call went unanswered.

"time to wake them up." hester said picking up the mic. "gunnery, FLASH THEM!" the foward 5 inch gun boomed and sent a shell across the bow of the
massive Cascade States cargo ship.......

You are firing warning shots at my largest ship behind the barrier islands?
If you use the name of which of my ships, that would help me describe
what I would do next.
Also I'd like to know you possition reletative to it ( North, south, East ect )
And your distance, I'm guessing that if you're boarding, and firing the warning
shots, it's too late to run ?

Also by the time your ships would have reached us, the cargo transfer would
have taken place, and the helicopters would have been returned to their anchors on deck.

the look-out on the dd125 reported as the hell landed on the other side of the massive ship. "sir the writing translates as the Dise Dicke Berta."

the 125's XO reported form his station, "skipper, according to records the Dise Dicke Berta. reportedly a Carrier Cargo ship masing about 54,000gross."

the lt. was more concerned with the ships choppers. they could have been offlonading all the time they were here and he would have no way to prove it. " increse speed to flank and come along side her."

the only place to board is on the aft section, beside the bridge,
as with the cargo boxes on deck it would be like a four story wall from the bridge to the bow.
So if you want to board, you've gotta do it from either starboard or port beside
the bridge.

The Captain sounded a call to his crew that all hands should be
sent to the armory if they had not already picked up their weapons.
That the Merchant Marines, and every other crewman was to report to
Boarding stations untill his word.
Merchant Marines were to meet inside the bulkheads and corridoors around
the control tower, Heavy weapons would be carried by the Marines, small
arms by the crew, to Meet half on Port, Half of Starboard.
And wait inside until ordered otherwise.

The Captain looked down from his bridge at the two small ships coming
to board him.
" Like hell I'm going to let a couple of puddle pirates' ships take my command,".

And saw that everyone was in place for the Boarding, Every one had body armor
and helmets, life jackets ( the inflating kind ) and what ever weapon they
had been issued by the Master of Arms.

" I want this done by the numbers, these boys are Sammy34's finest, so
threat them like it, I want all of you at ease until you are ordered out to
you stations. Take up positions and do not back down, Remember
to check with to officer of your quarter...,"
The Captain looked down the first column of men who were filling the bridges stairwell and hallways.

" IF things get hairy, and they start shooting, then take your places and
fire back. Otherwise, I'll see if we can sort this all out Bridge to Bridge.,"
He paused as he looked over the newest crew and continued;
"Now go to your stations.,"

And the men went to their places, Some were working their way down the
long corridors of cargo containers, a few men would pop into one box.
While others headed farther down.
All of the tech's went to their stations and watched Sonar
and Radar screens, monitored Radio and Sat links.

to: Dise Decka Berta

from: dds125

heave to and prepare to be borded. all crew are to be unarmed and in plane sight. you will have all logs out for inspection.

The Radio Crackles and a voice responds;
“ This is Seaman first class, Nevall Longfellow. I’m looking out at you boys, and ah, you’re kind’a close aren’t you? Um, the Captain’s not here it’s just me and the navigator and ships pilots. But I’ll tell him what you’re asking… As soon as I can find him. Say is it safe for you guys to be this close?,”
The radio turns off, Then moments later snaps back on,
“ This is Ship’s pilot, we are under orders from our company and country to make best speed for port. No offence, but How close are you guys? It’s not exactly parallel parking for us to, stop / turn anywhere.,” The voice slightly irritated at the order to stop and heave to.

My two ships earlier mentioned as " having rudder failure" and it's support
ship. Will have about reached inside the Port of Prean City about now.
Isn't there a fleet outside Cooper?
What about the St. John's blockade ?
I'm just curious as my ships up there are headed into that port as well.

the bomber came into sammy34 capital. It had took them awhile but they have reached their destination, as AT fire came hundreds of men came down as they started phase 2 of the invasion.

OOC: sorry about the short post ive been a little busy plus no one was posting but my necks post should be longer.

"watch your spaceing ensin," the capton ordered.

the helmsmen answered," eye sir." and adjusted his course.

"fire across their bow." the capt. ordered and the maine gun barked." not on the bridge my ass!"

hay all, starting this saterday night I'm leaving town; and will
not have any access to electricity or the internet.
( Helping teach a week long course in the woods )
will return a week from this Friday, sorry for the inconvenience,
If possible could there be a cease fire? What ever happened to Delkor?
Anyways; I apologize again for any upset this could cause to the game.
Cascade States,

"watch your spaceing ensin," the capton ordered.

the helmsmen answered," eye sir." and adjusted his course.

"fire across their bow." the capt. ordered and the main gun barked." not on the bridge my ass!"

On the bridge,
The Navigator, ship's pilot and a radio man were looking over the 300+meters
of deck when they heard the report of the destroyer's turret.

" They're SHOOTING?!", The Radio man was on his second haul with the ship and
had never been shot at since he left the Navy's Anti-piracy courses.

The Navigator Looked up from the instruments as he heard the shell cross the
bow.
Reports were coming in from the Radar opps room.

He pounded the overhead PA system which would reach all of the crew,
" Attention all hands, this is the Bridge... The Captain is NEEDED up here.
THEIR SHOOTING NOW!," His voice gave a slightly worried tone at the
end.

The Captain Swore as he was passing the last of his crew Everyone
else had reached their stations.
He hauled it up the stairs until he reached the bridge, the two Merchant
Marines saluted as he passed.

The Captain ordered a report,

"What's their range? And what have they done?,"

The Radio operator said.
" We told them you were talking to the crew... But he seemed to take
offense sir.,"


The Pilot explained, " They ordered us to stop, present all crew, our ships
logs and then they shot at us.,"

The Captain looked out over the bridge windows at the destroyers and
their guns.

He said, " Well I think their turret is bigger than the small arms we've got.,"
" Well then tell them We'll slow down and we can talk this all over.,"

The Radio operator got on and hailed the Destroyer.

The Ship Was Slowing Now. 125 Pulled Even With The Massive Cargo Carrier. Lt. Hester Knew That The Next Few Moments Would Eather Go Very Well Or very Badly. "lower The Boat!" He Ordered The Marines. There Werejust Six Of Them And Ensin Kratts Ageinst Up Ward Of Twenty Or More Crew. "i Hope This Goes Well." He Whispered.

Hay all parties involved,
I just got back into town last night.
Thanks for the break in the action.
( I will post my reply to Sammy34 in a few hours when I can stay online )
Cascade States,

As I've been out of it for a while,
has anyone talked to them?
And are they still participating in this thread?
I'm hoping the answer is yes to both.

The Ship Was Slowing Now. 125 Pulled Even With The Massive Cargo Carrier. Lt. Hester Knew That The Next Few Moments Would Eather Go Very Well Or very Badly. "lower The Boat!" He Ordered The Marines. There Werejust Six Of Them And Ensin Kratts Ageinst Up Ward Of Twenty Or More Crew. "i Hope This Goes Well." He Whispered.

The Captain got on the Loud Speakers as well as the radio when he flicked on
both switches from the bridge sets.

His voice was firm but not Threatening,
" To Sammy34 Destroyer, On what
grounds are you demanding to board my ship? We are a foreign, and WERE IN
INTERNATIONAL WATERS. Now that you have ordered us to slow you have
delayed our cargo delivery. If we are In your waters Now it is not our fault
since you ordered our course and speed changed.,"

He paused before continuing,
" If any hostile action is taken against this ship, Our Company will
take all possible actions against you in the World Assembly, And we
might request either friendly or Neutral forces to assist us in our defense.
I do not wish there to be any problems with our ships or nations,
Please allow us to return to our shedual.,"

Then the Captain turned off his mic' and asked the Comm Officer to
ready an emergency distress call and wait to send it. One was for
Military assistance, the other for any ship's or aircraft which could
render aid.

from dds 125: my orders are as follows.

to investigate all shipping in and aroung the barrier islnands. they are and have been part of my country for fifty years. i know this is contary to the WS's postion that they are nutral lands, but all peoples there are subject to our laws BY THEIR OWN CHOICE.xZ

The Captain mulled this over for a while before he came to his decision.

The Captain picked up the Radio and hit the loud speaker button; and messaged the Sammy34 Destroyer

" It is the belief of this ship's Captain that We are subject to the laws of the
United Nations with regards to the Open Oceans...
That our present position may now be within your territorial waters, but that
is only because we were ordered to do so by a military vessel.
We are returning to our original course and heading now, that if you have a disagreement with our Company or Nation's policies you should take it up with
the head of our Company, Nation, or the United Nations...,"

There was a pause before he continued;

" Since you are not acting in accordance with established International agreements with regards to Open Ocean and shipping laws. It is the opinion
of this ship's Captain that We Are Not required to open our Cargo manifest
to you here and now.
Your actions not following the Established laws of the Sea, we may regard any further hostile actions taken by you or your ships may be
seen as acts of piracy.,"

OOC: sorry

soon 2 platoons had landed near the capital building wile all over the capital troops were landing, there job was simple hold the capital for a couple of weeks then escape and cause trouble in the near by city's wile the landing force to the south would fight there way until they had control of all of southern sammy34. ltn.mores was near the capital buildings door as he ordered his men to wait for his signal, then he opened the door and threw a grenade.............

The news was reaching the Military leaders of The Armed Republic of Cascade States that their cargo ships and other assets in the area were some how
entangled with Military assets of the Sammy34 government.

The Cascade States Air force and Naval Commanders were gathering all
the information they could on the ships in that area.
Then using SAT photo images and local intell about what was going on.

Then the Army Commander of Off Shore Operations was notified,
he was told that he should mobilize the 1st Division Army Airborne and ready
the second and third divisions but to place the First Division ready and loaded
in Two days time.

The General of The Air Force was given the task of preparing an expeditionary
force to " Protect and preserve " Our shipping lanes in a war zone.

Three Hours later the Air force dispatched Two Squadron's of fighters and
Two KC-135's One AWACS and Two B-52's.

They will head out with the group arriving in maybe ten hours or less.

Ten Cargo ships have been ordered to hold position roughly 600 miles apart
in an East to West configuration.

The Coastal Air and Naval guard have been placed on High Active Duty
and are flying patrol missions at; 2,000 and 1,000 miles using ASW aircraft.
the State's Naval and Air Patrols will be at 500 miles and 250 miles.

All vessels from nations currently involved in the Sammy34 actions will
be asked to redirect their movements away from our national Coast line.
Any vessels which Must enter our ports will be asked to wait until their
ship's registry and cargo can be verified.
The Head of Cascade States Coast Guard apologizes and will be available
to reply to any nation which has concerns about this.

president hart knew that his time had come. since his son's team had rescued him from benton, he had made his way slowly to omega. omega was one of the underwater rearming platform that the 3rd fleet had been testing. now it was his capital in exile. after a week, they had made it to the place that they would most likey to do them some good, midway between trushia and sammy34. right in the combat zone. the armed substation was as safe a place as one could get in the hemisphere. equipped for stelth and armed to the teeth, he knew that now was the time to brodcast his message. "my fellow sammiens................"