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Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization (APOC)

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Overview

The Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization is a large coalition of prominent nations whose goals are stated in the alliance title: the preservation of civilization, and to maintain the common defence against barbarian powers, and to spread by all means possible the light of civilisation. As war and political strife ravage across the globe, the nations of APOC have chosen to make their glorious stand. Nations once on the brink of full-scale war- with the potential to bring bloodshed the likes of which the world has never seen –have united in friendship under the APOC banner. As a result of this, the Alliance has at its disposal a near-infinite reservoir of financial, industrial, and military strength.

APOC consists of some of the worlds foremost military powers: Doomingsland, Praetonia, Questers, as well as noted martial nations such as Kampfers and Soviet Bloc. Combined, there is not a single theatre of war or speciality that united, APOC does not come out on top of. Just as the light of civilization and liberty is unstoppable, so are the armies and navies and airforces that safeguard it and keep the world safe from barbarian tyranny.


Members:

-The Imperium Doomanum
-The Questarian Empire and Commonwealth
The Questarian Commonwealth of Northford
The Sovereign Kingdom of Bruxella
-The Crown Commonwealth of Praetonia
Clandonia
-Neo-Prussian Parliamentary Dictatorship of Kampfers
-The Federal Republican Duchydom of Franberry
-The Chevrokian Republic
-ZMI
-The Armed Republic of Soviet Bloc
-No Endorse
-Cohenia
-Aralonia
-The Empire of Zukariaa
-The PeoplesFreedom
-Cotland

BREAKING NEWS

QUESTERS DECLARES ALLEGIANCE TO APOC:

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Praetonian (right) and Questarian (left) military representatives salute their respective flags after signing the APOC agreement

It has been revealed just less than ten minutes ago by Reuters that both Questers and Praetonia have signed the entry to the Alliance for Protection of Civilisation, which was refounded just under an hour ago. The snap decision between the two highly friendly governments was signed by the Praetonian representative in Jesselton and the Questarian Head of State, King-Emperor Alexander II, who has given himself a new title of “Defender of Civilisation.”

The two nations agreed to the full APOC charter and are expected to be accepted as members by Doomingsland shortly. It was reported that a similar event happened in Praetonia with a Questarian representative, with the flags being raised at precisely the same time. Furthermore, not only did King Alexander sign for Questers, he simultaenously made Northford, Azaha and Bruxella - Commonwealth States - members, too. More on this story as it comes in.

Official Kampferian Statement
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For too many years, Kampfers has stood alone in this world, minding its own. Now, as a great power has risen to near world dominance, we see fit to join in force with the rest of the free world in defense of our liberty. Now is the time to swear a new bod of allegiance. With all due fervor, the Neo-Prussian Parliamentary Dictatorship of Kampfers hereby confirms its membership into this noble organization known as APOC. Let the world tremble at the sounds of the allied forces of APOC!

Signed,
Fuhrer Richtoff

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Press Release, Axis Nova Office of Foreign Affairs, in response to the reforming of APOC

That the nation of Doomingsland, of all nations, should claim to be advancing the cause of civilization in any way, is quite a joke, and not a good one, at that.

Official Telrosian Federation Communique

We applaud the rebirth of this alliance, one which is direly needed in the coming times. We have seen war and death spread across our world, barbarism and ignorance destroying the foundations of knowledge and peace. We of the Telrosian Federation will stand for it no longer. As of today, Congress has unanimously signed into law the APOC Bill, which has granted President Freeman the power to enter the Federation into this alliance. We seek to aid the APOC in all ways, and will do what we can to further the cause of freedom.

OOC: Hope you don't mind. I also am still struggling on how to fully make my MT nation so....yeah.

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Official Statement from the Federal Republican Duchydom of Franberry

The Federal Republican Duchydom of Franberry hereby reveals that it has joined the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization. The Congress, Senate and President all met in a special session and ratified the full charter of APOC. Minutes later, elements of the Presidential Guard, the Guard of Franciscopolis, the 3rd Dragoons, the 5th Lancers, the 6th Curassiers, the 10th Curassiers, the 7th Paratrooper Brigade and the 21st Armoured Division paraded through the streets of Franciscopolis, as Air Force and Naval Air Command jets patrolled the skies above.

The Federal Republican Duchydom of Franberry shall join the noble crusade to preserve and spread civilization through the world. With the joining of such powers as Questers, Praetonia, and of course the re-founder Doomingsland, and further powerful nations expected to join, APOC will clearly dominate worldwide politics.

The President himself has dismissed remarks of "idiotic nations", in this case referring to Axis Nova, further reaffirming later that "it is a pool of ignorance and stupidity. Their idiotic thinking being displayed clearly when their office of Foreign Affairs exclaimed their views on the subject of APOC".


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Franberrian Officers salute the Franberrian flag and the APOC banner

"To maintain the common defence against barbarian powers, and to spread by all means possible the light of civilisation."
Alliance for the Preservation of Civilisation Reforms to create the World's Greatest Power bloc

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Representatives of the Crown Commonwealth (right) and the Questerian Empire (left) shake hands in Kingston, echoing ceremonies taking place all across the civilised world.
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From 'The Herald'
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"In that the Civilised Nations of the World, prefering as they do the freedom of sovereignty to pursue their own ends, have been spread diffuse for too long, connected only isolated alliances, and the loose bonds of personal fealty that exist between all Civilised Peoples, I join gladly with my Royal brothers in Questers and Doomingsland, and the sovereigns and elective heads of state of a great many other proud and ancient Peoples around the world, in commitment to our Common Cause. May everyone, wheresoever in the World they may be, be sure in their trust that the Crown Commonwealth stands for the values and ideals of our great communion. To maintain the common defence against barbarian powers, and to spread by all means possible the light of civilisation."

The King's words were met with cheers and applause as the ceremony affirming the Crown Commonwealth's allegiance to the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilisation came to a close in Kingston today, a scene that was echoed around the world. Representatives from all the APOC memberstates shook hands with the King and the assembled Imperial General Staff and Lords of the Admiralty. The event marked Praetonia's entry into an organisation that has been described by many as the most powerful assembly of countries that has ever existed. Assembled to promote the cause of the civilised nations, the Prime Minister heralded the organisation as "a necessary means of defence against the world's tyrannies, and a growing necessity in a world in which civilisation is challenged openly by fascist, bolshevik and feudalist powers.

King George IV was also presented with the title "Defender of Civilisation," by vote of both Houses of Parliament, emphasising the importance that the alliance will have in future Praetonian foreign policy. The Questerian sovereign, who has also adopted the title, is reported to be pleased that the two countries' growing unity has been so affirmed. The Government has issued a statement saying that areas for future APOC co-operation will begin to take shape over the coming weeks and months.

Official Chevrokian Communique
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Acting on behalf of the combined members of both sections of the Senate, other governing representatives of the Republic, and people of Chevrokia, I give allegiance of the Chevrokian Republic to the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization, such that we may fight to preserve liberty and justice in the world from the forces of tyranny and oppression. The Republic is committed to aiding her allies in APOC it whatever ways necessary to achieve the goals set forth by the founding members.

Sincerely,

Olav Jagland
President of The Chevrokian Republic and her Overseas Territories

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Office of the President
Presidential Palace
Zostar, Karshkovia


Acting on behalf of the People of Karshkovia I, President Vladimir Radchenko, give the allegiance of the Republic of Karshkovia to the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization. We believe in the goals set forth by the Alliance and lend our support to the preservation of liberty and justice in the world.

Karshkovia is willing to commit to defending the nations of the APOC as she would herself.

Signed,
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The Stuyvesant Times
FERRIN TO AZRAEL: SO LONG, OLD FRIEND

*picture of the Emperor Ferrin, with Maximus of Doomingsland, Alexander II of Questaria, and Olav Jagland of Chevrokia at the refounding of APOC. there is a visible sadness to Ferrin's face*

STUYVESANT, Federal District

The Times has confirmed the resignation of the Cohenian Imperium in the New Alliance Treaty Organization after the news that former ally of the Imperium, Automagfreek, would be sending soldiers and supplies to help aid and arm the terrorist faction known as Central Prestonia. According to Foreign Minister Rutherford Q. Beauregard, "I must say it is a sad day for Cohenian-Freekish relations. We figured the Freeks had the same ideology of the Prestonoid, a genus far worse than the Negroid - complete and total swine. I mean, on Beauregard's Belle in Rosbaninsland I do own several Prestoniod slaves, they can not be used for labour but they must be used for common servant jobs. I must declare that I normally do not enjoy beating my property as it does indeed lower the value on them, but a Prestonoid does not learn. After beating and beating, even by my negroe Thomas, they do not learn! They have threatened the people of the Imperium time after time again, and the Freeks were more than aware of this predicament."

Plans of a Cohenian lead offensive to stablize the Eastern Central Prestonian borders near Rosbaninsland were leaked somehow to the Prestonians, causing them to flee to the waiting arms of Azarael. Ferrin, in an earlier press conference yesterday, stated that he was neutral regarding Prestonian entrance in Gholgoth. But, when sketchy reports of Gholgothic influence in the Prestonian Terrorist Conflict (sources say that Prestonian terrorists were found armed with RAR-4 assault rifles, the same used by the ICA) came in, His Majesty changed to being somewhat against the Prestonians in Gholgoth.

The breaking point of His Majesty occured earlier today, when it was found that Freekish soldiers and supplies would be aiding Prestonian terrorist factions. The Resignation Act stated that peaceful coexistance between Freeks, Prestonoids, and Cohenians would simply be impossible. The only way for such peace to occur would be with the exit of Cohenia as a nation in the New Alliance Treaty Organization. The Resignation Act was unanimously approved by Parliament, with every vote by every region and territory supporting it. The Resignation Act also approved the joining the Cohenian Imperium into the Alliance for the Preservation Of Civilizations. "We feel", stated His Majesty, "that we can coexist peacefully with Doomanis, Praetonians, and Chevrokians more than we can with Aequatians and Prestonoids." When The Times asked His Majesty what he meant about the Aequatians, he stated that it would be the subject of a new Times article.

"Preservation of Civilization?"
Concordiant Indecision on New International Alliance

The Liberator English Language Edition, X/X/XX, taken from theliberator.co.sc, article written by Michael Aarika

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Riot police keep order among massive demonstrations in Donnet City in the Athulian Federation

From the halls of the Union Capitol in Ourund, fierce debate raged across the Senate floor, dividing liberal from liberal, communist from communist, nationalist from nationalist. The topic of Concordiant alignment and relations concerning the APOC alliance has turned the once pristine Capitol halls into a political slaughterhouse. The chaotic deliberations lasted nearly two weeks with nary a break for all but rest and refreshment. A veritable army of representatives of the mass media industry pushed against the police barricades, their frenzied attempts to enter the Concordiant seat of government stalled by the fierce and equally determined efforts of the Ourund Constabulary.

Their enthusiasm and desperation has been only fueled by the controversial and widely distributed images of three Socialist United Party Senators walking out of the front of the gates, the first expulsion of Senators from the Union Capitol seat since the Dock Riots of 1964.

The indecision and strife in the Capitol is reflected by that of the Concordiant's general population. Massive anti-APOC demonstrations occured in leftists havens such as Southport and Freeton, while a visiting Praetonian shore party was hospitalized after being seriously injured in a physical altercation with bar-goers in Cape Vladivostok. While conservative and nationalist power bases such as Osea and Eurusium show minor to moderate levels of backing for Concordiant entry into, or at least, support for, the newly forged international alliance, much of the Concordiant is undecided on what to make of this new development in international politics.

As such, both the people and government of the collective Concordiant remain effectively neutral on the issue, partly due to the stringent requirements for entry of the entirety of the Concordiant into an international defensive pact. As many know, the Concordiant herself is a military, political, and economic security organization, its member states numbering two dozen at the present writing, with the thriving Republic of Azaria as its youngest and newest member.

The debate, in absolute terms, is far from over. The dilemma of whether or not to join the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization is expected to carry through Senatorial politics for at least another week until a final decision can be made.

The Aiur Times
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"Emperor Conrad II Declares 'Zukariaa for APOC'"

Earlier this morning in Aiur, Emperor Conrad II publically stated that Zukariaa was "for APOC 100%". It was a startling move to the Zukariaan people, as the Empire has taken very little action on the political stage as of late, preferring to keep to itself and tend to it's economy after the Great War months ago. The Emperor stated that Zukariaa would be ready to help APOC at all times.

"We stand for the protection and betterment of civilization; we will defend civilization from barbarism and communism at all costs," he stated. The subject of Gholgoth came up briefly, with the Emperor blowing it off as unimportant,"Havenic matters are far more important than silly savages. My slaves are more important than they are."

Aiur officials stated that a large military parade would be taking place later today to celebrate the reformation of APOC.

~EditorsNameGoesHere, February 5th, 2008

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The Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization Reforms
February 5th, 2008


Earlier today it was announced that the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization, a controversial and often perceived as hypocritical supra-national organization, was to be reformed under the supposed leadership of Doomingsland, Questers, and Praetonia; however its ranks contain many former and new members to the organization. The announcement comes today somewhat out of the blue, with little buildup to the sudden ratification and rebirth of the Alliance.

Thusfar His Imperial Majesty's Government has declined to officially make a statement on the reformation of APOC, in line with most other NATO powers at the moment. However, after the closing of a session of the House of Commons, Madame Director Annadale was stopped in the central rotunda of the Imperial Senate building for a brief word on APOC.

"At the moment, I can't comment on behalf of the government.", Annadale was quoted as saying. "However, I can say on a personal level that I am very disappointed in His Majesty Emperor Ferrin of Cohenia and his decision to leave the New Alliance so abruptly."

Annadale declined to comment, however, on the decision by Gholgothic authorities to harbor Central Prestonia among their ranks. Although not openly negative, Cravno-Prestonian relations have never been openly favorable. Further comment by the government on these issues may be made at a later date, however for the moment it appears the Greater Continentian Empire has adopted a "sit and watch" ideology yet again.

The Tower of Destiny rose looming upon the night, standing tall above the many statues of Vruzanzan Square, many Hieratic or Patriotic, one in particular stood out, of an ancient figure, heavily garbed in flowing robes holding a sword high upon to the air, with other arm stretched out, as if to tough and hold a better time, of intimidating height and aspect it rose to the north west of the square, and had been a focal point of many a rally in the past few days as record levels of Novan Nationalism ensured that there were nigh on non stop rallies and demonstrations urging the government on in it’s course, cheering on the guardians of state, whose thus far unfailing vision, others were fastening a single small square of paper to this particular statue, an old Novan custom, said to send a message to the past, for times yet to come, indeed a thick layer was beginning to build up around the pedestal upon which the statue rest, yet curiously the plaque which honoured the statue was not obscured, and although written in Novan, this one was not unknown,

“Voronzel Jindrax,
Knight against the darkness, and bringer of Truth
Strength through our people, Truth through our Belief, Victory through our Unity, Never shall self sacrifice such as yours be forgotten, for those who do, and those who do not know shall fear your legacy,”

The Precise Slam of Military time echoed Throughout this momentous place, as Novan Soldiers marched in perfect time and step on patrol, not that of course there was anything to patrol against, the few foreigners within Novan borders were elsewhere, and they were of course fellow Gholgothian’s, nobody else of course had been allowed entry, and armed force had been brought to bear to those whose own arrogance thought they were exempt, with each step of the soldiers, the absolute authority of the Novan state, and the immense weight of history were made abundantly clear, this state had outlasted every empire in the world to date, and then some, a Nation in existence in one form or another from the time that Humanity evolved to walk o two feet, so gifted was this people that when other nations did not even grasp the concept of fire, this number of course did not include the Clandonians, which to this date still do not, decrying it as a Praetonian Imported Evil Voodoo Spirit.

The Stride of the soldiers advanced through the expanse, passing by statues from tie long gone, to times more recent, a littoral path through time, as the marched on, it was rumoured by some that this was in preparation for long planned operations, indeed this was lent credence, by the orders being dubbed, Victory March Preparation, of course it could be something else, as there were yearly Victory Parades, though they in general were in the latter half of the year, theory crafters would of course be heavy at work with them, but then again, you could never know, especially with the proceedings within that pivotal tower, rising as if to touch the skies and ascend the stars themselves drew up behind them, as if to protect the city from harm from some villainous threat from far flung seas.

“The vote is passed 12 for, 1 against, 2 Abstentions, The Economic Security Addendum shall be Codified into Directive Mdinight Tonight, which is in 5 minutes co-incidentally, and on that note I Adjourn this meeting, but before we depart I shall say a few words, with the Non-event that was the reformation of APOC, we now look set to be pitched against former allies, as they as usual have set themselves against our brothers, I must urge you all to give thought to those who will be caught in the middle, when the inevitable call to war from the warmongering outsiders is inevitably sounded, the last war of this kind was heralded with a warm up on several defenceless nations simply for target practise, and I urge you all to continue to be decisive in our actions, as is due our heritage, good night my friends.” The Surainister turned with a swish of tunic departing the high walled hall, it’s subtle blue glow limming gently as the rest of the council filed out deep in discussion with one another, apart from Izalien and Hugoro who followed behind the Suprainister, deep in discussion, for their task was not complete yet this eve, war and diplomacy, never truly rested in this war-torn world.

Last night the Council of Ministers passed a Addendum to the Economic Security Directive, as a result of this, the investments of Select Nations, among which rank Praetonia and Questers have been Annulled and given in stewardship to the Government, in addition to this Novan Citizenry and Interests have been recalled from said nations, in some cases under armed guard, in what has been noted as blatant disregard for foreign protocol, in adherence to Novan Civil Directive, It would also seem that these sweeping measures have had financial ramifications in which Ambitious Projects to rebuild the Technology aspect of the Questerian Market have been scrapped, causing panic in the world’s Stock markets causing stock in notable companies within that country hit their lowest since the end of the last war, the Praetonian Markets also saw a slight dip as stocks were sold en Masse in favour of what was considered more favourable investments within the nation of TheSilverSky.

These moves have been welcomed as a long overdue reaffirming of commitment to our fellows in Gholgoth. which, have repeatedly been on the receiving end of spectacular pathetic assaults by this notoriously shambolic group, while APOC itself has never had any significance, the destruction that it’s members, even before the officiating of this unholy alliance this group have taken a terrible toll on upstanding members of the global community, for ridiculous reasons such as having a Communist-esque National Anthem, even to annex a nation which expounded the virtues of Pacifism, launching a farcical invasion involving a horse, a drunken naval officer and an uptight aristocrat that reportedly went around brandishing the wrong end of a sword at people, oblivious to the fact that is was still within the hilt. It is the sincere hope of this reporter that the rulers of these nations are committed urgently to an asylum before they blight this world any further, though, it is however to be suspected that the insanity shall continue long into this cold winter night, in which the world now finds itself in. Juliar Phzigak, Novacom Broadcasting Covenant, Signal 10 News.

The Daily MiananOpinion/Editorial

APOC: 14 members, 2 incarnations, zero relevance
David Gregory

Today, the Imperium Doomanum announced again that it's forming an "Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization". Let's start just by analyzing the name - "Alliance". Okay. We have a fairly bizarre "alliance" here - combining the utterly totalitarian Doomanum with a relatively liberal state such as Aralonia sounds like a recipe for disaster. What the Aralonians for example could count on from this is utter domination by the huge powers - Questers (hardly the model for a liberal nation), Doomanum, and Praetonia in particular. The national ideologies vary wildly, to the point where I don't even know how people in these nations can stand to be under the same banner - Aralonia has been at war with Doomanum before. Questaria and Doomanum have butted heads in the past, these nations seem almost, well, randomly picked out of a hat.

Let's continue, shall we? "Preservation" is the second word, and it makes it seem like there's something to preserve. It sounds very profound, doesn't it? But the main question is, what exactly is APOC trying to preserve? Well, they're trying to preserve "Civilization", so let's look at both of those terms together - They want to Preserve Civilization. What civilization? The Doomani are hardly the bastions of civilization this alliance would make one think. With religious rule, one can be stoned for being a homosexual, a dissident, or pretty much anything that violates the bizarre religious tenants of the Doomani Catholic Church. Questers is no better - ethnic minorities and women have zero rights. Literally - zero rights.

These nations have been allied in a half dozen different flavors and combinations - the one common factor is that every single alliance has fallen apart. I see no reason to believe why this one will survive any longer than the previous. APOC itself is going through it's second incarnation, probably in response to a perceived Gholgothian threat. This itself is laughable, as the APOC nations seem to think Gholgoth is mobilizing for war when a Gothic Lord sneezes.

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Empire of Thrashia
Official Communique

To: Official Representative of APOC

Dear sir, it has come to the attention of his majesty Emperor Maximus Fiorria of this auspicious and powerful alliance and at his behest and the urging of several members of our government we wish to bid a placement amongst your august ranks and become a member of APOC.

Sincerely,
Gerrard von Erichs
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Foreign Ministry
Empire of Thrashia

Official United Trailer Parks Communication:

The Theocracy of United Trailer Parks wishes to make its decision know about its wanting to join the APOC, as the United Trailer Parks seeks to better the world as a whole.

Signed
Azuala The Head Associate
The Homeowners Association

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Open Deceleration
The Holy Reich hereby announces it full support and confirmation of entry into the APOC Alliance. Now the Holy Reich stands behind such legendary powers such as Doomingsland, Questers, and Praetonia! These nations have stood together with TPF in times of her most dire need. Now The Holy Reich has entered into brothership again with these nations among many others. Together we shall defeat any threat which opposes us! Forward into a better tomorrow!

Omar Pace has released an official statement regarding the reformation of APOC, as reported by an Imperial International Newslink reporter:

"I didn't even know they existed in the first place. From what I see now, I'm not impressed... Now stop bothering me and get the hell out of my office, before I have you detained."

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General Omar Pace

Official Announcement from the Army Asymetric Warfare Training and Operations Section

The Armed Republic applauds the creation of another large, excessivley armed alliance, along with the sure-to-come rapid proliferation of small arms around the globe... not that there weren't enough already. Thanks for making our jobs easier! Cheers!

"On behalf of the Republic of Vetalia, we humbly request admission to this alliance. Your combined military power requires a strong financial hand to support, and there are few creditors in this world with the assets or the sheer economic power of our state. Our acceptance will provide you with the finest tools of economic warfare in existence as well as a strong line of defense against the attempts by other states to cripple you and deprive your armies of their economic lifeblood. Vetalia can provide untold trillions of goods and services to your citizens and your army, some of the world's most advanced technological goods, a culture more than conducive to your goals, and, most importantly, a financial market laden with quadrillions in financial instruments and lines of credit."

"Our country has long needed to begin its realignment towards those states with the willingness to pursue progress no matter the cost, and we see this alliance as a necessary path for achieving this goal. Although we cannot offer anywhere near the military power as other members of this alliance, our technological base, infrastructure and sheer economic weight will provide a strong underpinning with which to pursue our economic goals."

"In the event that others wish to disrupt this alliance with punitive sanctions or other forms of coercion, rest assured that we will be more than capable of backing your currencies and ensuring that the military might of the APOC cannot be challenged. Civilization's lifeblood is trade, and all trade passes through Vetalian hands at some point along its journey. We ask that you consider this when considering our membership."

Here we go again. Since we've been through this whole song and dance already several years ago, I'm going to cut right to the chase here.

Once more the world is "graced" with the presence of the APOC alliance, a sordid group of lesser states who feel the need to group together under yet another banner for the reasons of opposing the "evil barbarians", which can only be interrepted as Gholgoth judging from their long track record of rhetoric. Last time around you nearly brought the planet into another World War with your petty squabbles about how our mere existance is such a threat to your way of life. Why you would choose to resurrect the bloated corpse that is APOC is beyond me, but perhaps I'm mistaken that Gholgoth is the glue that holds your alliance together and maybe you've found some other collective to shake your fists at.

Let me state that this incarnation of APOC is but a mere shadow of what it once was so long ago. In the past it consisted of some 25 member states, some of which were rather influential on the world stage from existing alliances (at the time) such as the now defunct Sovereign League and the dissolved CAD. When all was said and done and APOC crumbled under the weight of your leader's own egos, five of those in CAD who were APOC signatories ended up joining the ranks of Gholgoth (a single Gholgothan was also a signatory of APOC at the time), while one nation ended up joining NATO. In short, APOC actually 'helped' Gholgoth more than it could ever hurt it, and this time around looks to be no different.

The resurrection of APOC has already stirred up activity within NATO, who for years now has had no real need to exert itself since the victorious end of the Questarian Commonwealth war. So once again, APOC's existance is only helping Gholgoth and its allies. If this was your intention, then congratulations, you've succeeded.

But I'm curious as to why APOC has been reborn. I'm sure many of you will simply dismiss my statement as paranoia, but I refer to history here for insight. I cannot help but notice the same nations are running the show here. Praetonia, Questers, and Doomingsland, three nations who have made it a point to oppose Gholgoth and its allies, plus some of the usual tag alongs. Anyone who claims that APOC is not existing in order to form some kind of check against Gothic power is simply kidding themselves, because these three have historically opposed our peaceful regional brotherhood.

Though, we are disappointed that Doomingsland continues to allign itself with Praetonia, a sworn enemy of our Empire, even after Damien Dreadfire and Maximus put differences aside and made it a point to mend wounds. We are also disappointed in Questaria, whos new government seems to be oddly following in the footsteps of the old. We made honest attempts after the NATO/QC war to improve relations, including a joint operation into Nova Europa.

We are also saddened to see Cohenia sever its ties with Gholgoth and NATO, two moves that cannot be forgiven. We're sorry friends, but there is no turning back from the path you've chosen.

So again, the revival of a historically anti-Gholgoth alliance by historically anti-Gholgoth states troubles the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek, but not enough to consider APOC a serious threat. APOC is merely a shadow of what it once was, which in and of itself was never anything special. If perhaps this alliance has a new direction, then so be it. But we will remain vigilant and monitor your movements, though we doubt anything serious will come of them.

Oh, and before the Praetonian government gets their hands on this statement and blusters on as they always do: We don't give a shit what you have to say. You're all talk, no follow through, and we grew bored with your rhetoric years ago.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of International Affairs-

"On behalf of the Republic of Vetalia, we humbly request admission to this alliance. Your combined military power requires a strong financial hand to support, and there are few creditors in this world with the assets or the sheer economic power of our state. Our acceptance will provide you with the finest tools of economic warfare in existence as well as a strong line of defense against the attempts by other states to cripple you and deprive your armies of their economic lifeblood. Vetalia can provide untold trillions of goods and services to your citizens and your army, some of the world's most advanced technological goods, a culture more than conducive to your goals, and, most importantly, a financial market laden with quadrillions in financial instruments and lines of credit."

"Our country has long needed to begin its realignment towards those states with the willingness to pursue progress no matter the cost, and we see this alliance as a necessary path for achieving this goal. Although we cannot offer anywhere near the military power as other members of this alliance, our technological base, infrastructure and sheer economic weight will provide a strong underpinning with which to pursue our economic goals."

"In the event that others wish to disrupt this alliance with punitive sanctions or other forms of coercion, rest assured that we will be more than capable of backing your currencies and ensuring that the military might of the APOC cannot be challenged. Civilization's lifeblood is trade, and all trade passes through Vetalian hands at some point along its journey. We ask that you consider this when considering our membership."

"Be careful you do not forget the terms of the cease fire, Vetalian. You agreed to never stand against Crimmond or Gholgoth ever again, in return for my forces not leveling more of your cities and stripping your lands of resources... If APOC intends to become militant against Gholgoth, your nation may be seen as a target of opportunity. You're lucky I do not declare this intent to go against Gholgoth and start marching troops over your borders."

-General Pace

"Be careful you do not forget the terms of the cease fire, Vetalian. You agreed to never stand against Crimmond or Gholgoth ever again, in return for my forces not leveling more of your cities and stripping your lands of resources... If APOC intends to become militant against Gholgoth, your nation may be seen as a target of opportunity. You're lucky I do not declare this intent to go against Gholgoth and start marching troops over your borders."

-General Pace

"Our country would never go against Gholgoth. It would be nothing more than our death."

ooc: was this closed or open? If it was closed to new members it would nice if someone would have posted that instead of having others waste their time posting. If it was open, some kind of response would be good. Heck a response either way would be nice to have.

ooc: was this closed or open? If it was closed to new members it would nice if someone would have posted that instead of having others waste their time posting. If it was open, some kind of response would be good. Heck a response either way would be nice to have.

[OOC: We're talking about stuff, but at the moment we're considering only accepting members that we can keep in touch with OOCly via IRC. I'm not actually leadership though, so I don't know.]

[OOC: We're talking about stuff, but at the moment we're considering only accepting members that we can keep in touch with OOCly via IRC. I'm not actually leadership though, so I don't know.]

How about IM? Some of us don't do IRC well. :P

Official Document of the Solenian Empire

The Empire of Solenial would like to share it's interest in becoming a member of the reformed APOC. Thank You

Emperor Ryan Laing

Communique From the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization (APOC)

To: The Empire of Thrashia, The Theocracy of United Trailer Parks, The Empire of Solenial

We must respectfully inform you that the members of APOC have decided to reject your request for membership in APOC.



To: The Republic of Karshkovia, The Republic of Vetalia

At the present time, the members of APOC are conducting a more thorough review of your nation's qualifications with regard to your membership in APOC.

OFFICIAL IMPERIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

As the proverb goes, 'Those who do not learn from their past are condemned to repeat it'. The Imperium rather suspects that the wisdom of this does not escape the members of the reanimated APOC. The folly of those nations lies not in their ignorance of the laws of history, but in their poor memories. It may be recalled that the original APOC collapsed amid the conflict of egos sparked by Sovereign League and CAD leaders brought into one place. It does not take Promethean foresight to envision where, exactly, this alliance will be in time.

The Alliance for the Preservation Of Civilization. An impressive title, to be sure. One wonders, given the assembly of nations represented, what kind of civilization, exactly is being promoted. Is it the Catholic autocracy of Doomingsland? Is it the atavistic and antiquated culture of the Questarian Empire? Is it the imperialist monarchy of Praetonia? Is any of these fit to be preserved at all?

Another logical question would be, why must 'civilization' be preserved now? Was it not being preserved already? Was it threatened, and if so, what looming force could possibly have terrified such diverse nations as these into bonding? History teaches us that men such as the mighty Emperor Maximus of Doomingsland and King George IV of Praetonia fear nothing. What, then, could be so terrifying as to drive these would-be alpha dogs into the same pack? Gholgoth, as, unfortunately, must be expected, draws the barbs and insults of lesser alliances and nations, and truth be told it is not surprising that an alliance has been formed to counter it. What is surprising is the idea that the Lords of Gholgoth can be overcome by this motley array. As Lord Azrael has already announced, NATO is stirring, and Gholgoth stands ready as always...and then, of course, there is the lesson of history.

Through the years many have threatened or fought Gholgoth. The planet is strewn with their ashes. We do not destroy the wise; we destroy the fools who attempt to destroy us. The world would be wise to remember that not so long ago, a very similar coalition attempted to wage war against Gholgoth. Now that the Questarians have done the seemingly impossible, economically speaking, they fancy their chances again, it would seem. Now that Doomingsland has secured a reprieve from the Freeks and from Gholgoth, they would like to prove their strength. And they summon their puppets, pulling the strings in the opening act of history's greatest farce.

Gholgoth does not need your envy. Gholgoth does not need your fear. All your existence, as Lord Azrael pointed out, has ever done is feed Gholgoth. The Imperium itself was a member of APOC in its previous incarnation, under the reign of Lucifer, and we have learned the lessons of the past. Look around at yourselves, APOC. What do you stand for? What do you stand to gain? What will you do to achieve whatever goals you might have? Perhaps when you attempt to answer such questions, you will understand the path you have put yourself on.

Signed,
Abram Vidann, Minister of Foreign Affairs

Official Communique from the Capitalist Paradise of McPsychoville
viaticus planto universum volubilis

To all involved in the reformation of APOC, both for and against the alliance,

A little bit of knowledge really is a dangerous thing.

While our grasp of global history is not what some believe it should be, one look at the list of members involved is more than enough to convince one exactly how big an annoyance this alliance is going to be in the future. Franberry, a nation remarkably quick to spark off a war against Shazbotdom - one of the few we genuinely admire and fear - but not one with the fortitude to stand alongside the Eurasian Socialist Republic, their partners in crime, without attempting to convince a laundry list of others to do their dirty work for them. Kampfers, a state that almost makes us ashamed of being a dictatorship solely because we have to share a governmental designation with a nation that elects to run to the authorities and beg for sanctions at the first sign of offense. Doomingsland...really, just reading the press release that started this debacle off is enough to illustrate how irksome Doomingsland was, is and will be. Individually, these nations are minor annoyances - gnat bites, if you will - but together, when they can combine their military power and increase their sabre-rattling by a degree of many hundreds, this APOC is more akin to finding a cancerous tumour in one's vital organs.

We feel it safe to say that we disliked this alliance immediately. Most alliances are creating for no purpose other than serving the alliance creator or the perceived "elite" members, and this looks no different. Interesting points are raised by our fellows in the keep of the Warmaster, regarding the alleged goal of the APOC, but to us, it seems very much like the founding nations of this alliance have only just learnt what an alliance is. This is evidently not something built out of fine intentions to improve the world, that was made clear enough by the three rejections meted out. No, this is nothing more than a vulgar display of power, a group deciding to band together and telling the world "We're here! Bring it on!", and truth be told, it is nothing more than amusing. It will soon become an annoyance, when the nations involved elect to stick their noses where they have no place being, but for now, this all seems like a colossal joke.

To put this all simply, if the effect of announcing to the world's powers "APOC is back! Fear us!" was intimidation, you have failed.

Yours,
Brother-Captain Stian Ellingsen

Official Communique from the Capitalist Paradise of McPsychoville
viaticus planto universum volubilis

To all involved in the reformation of APOC, both for and against the alliance,

A little bit of knowledge really is a dangerous thing.

While our grasp of global history is not what some believe it should be, one look at the list of members involved is more than enough to convince one exactly how big an annoyance this alliance is going to be in the future. Franberry, a nation remarkably quick to spark off a war against Shazbotdom - one of the few we genuinely admire and fear - but not one with the fortitude to stand alongside the Eurasian Socialist Republic, their partners in crime, without attempting to convince a laundry list of others to do their dirty work for them. Kampfers, a state that almost makes us ashamed of being a dictatorship solely because we have to share a governmental designation with a nation that elects to run to the authorities and beg for sanctions at the first sign of offense. Doomingsland...really, just reading the press release that started this debacle off is enough to illustrate how irksome Doomingsland was, is and will be. Individually, these nations are minor annoyances - gnat bites, if you will - but together, when they can combine their military power and increase their sabre-rattling by a degree of many hundreds, this APOC is more akin to finding a cancerous tumour in one's vital organs.

We feel it safe to say that we disliked this alliance immediately. Most alliances are creating for no purpose other than serving the alliance creator or the perceived "elite" members, and this looks no different. Interesting points are raised by our fellows in the keep of the Warmaster, regarding the alleged goal of the APOC, but to us, it seems very much like the founding nations of this alliance have only just learnt what an alliance is. This is evidently not something built out of fine intentions to improve the world, that was made clear enough by the three rejections meted out. No, this is nothing more than a vulgar display of power, a group deciding to band together and telling the world "We're here! Bring it on!", and truth be told, it is nothing more than amusing. It will soon become an annoyance, when the nations involved elect to stick their noses where they have no place being, but for now, this all seems like a colossal joke.

To put this all simply, if the effect of announcing to the world's powers "APOC is back! Fear us!" was intimidation, you have failed.

Yours,
Brother-Captain Stian Ellingsen

[OOC: Who the fuck are you O_o?]

[OOC: Fran and ESR don't actively browse jolt or NS, so erm... that might be why...

keep that out of this thread though please.]

[I the fuck am a nation who doesn't like many alliances and dislikes this one more than most because of the way it's purported as being...searching for an appropriate example...er, the Marvel Ultimate Alliance OF Alliances? The Pro Bowl of Alliances? What I mean is it's supposedly boasting the cream of the NS world's militaries (which is clearly crap because it includes Kampfers, who is our version of Randall Wiems), and that's just not something we as a nation are very fond of. Alternatively, I the fuck am a nation with a big military who feels like picking a fight or two? I don't know, either seems to work and I like being able to participate.]

OOC: Karshkovia, we would request that you join our IRC channel and talk to us. A TG is on the way with the details.

McPyschoville, keep your OOC grudges out of our IC thread. Just because I reported you to the mods for continuous infractions doesn't mean you should try and intentionally harass me. I don't think you will find a receptive crowd here. Let me also point out that our nations have no IC interaction so technically you have no clue what I am like, unless you don't know that OOC is seperate from IC. Which it is.

Shazbotdom, please don't spam the thread. Send a telegram or contact them on MSN if you have an issue.

[Intentionally harassing you would be coming in this thread for no reason other than to harass you. I'm trying to participate, the fact I can take shots at you is little more than an added perk.]

[I the fuck am a nation who doesn't like many alliances and dislikes this one more than most because of the way it's purported as being...searching for an appropriate example...er, the Marvel Ultimate Alliance OF Alliances? The Pro Bowl of Alliances? What I mean is it's supposedly boasting the cream of the NS world's militaries (which is clearly crap because it includes Kampfers, who is our version of Randall Wiems), and that's just not something we as a nation are very fond of. Alternatively, I the fuck am a nation with a big military who feels like picking a fight or two? I don't know, either seems to work and I like being able to participate.]

[Intentionally harassing you would be coming in this thread for no reason other than to harass you. I'm trying to participate, the fact I can take shots at you is little more than an added perk.]

(OOC: Take this crap out of thread, please, it's not doing it any justice at all.)

Panic grips Gholgoth regional alliance
Despite no mention of the alliance in any APOC statement, claims abound it is merely "a check against Gothic power"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Panic_of_1873_bank_run.jpg/300px-Panic_of_1873_bank_run.jpg
Utterly calm Gothic gentlemen: "The Bank of APOC hasn't stopped paying out yet, but if the run continues it's bound to sooner or later!" Cartoon by Randolph Edgeworth
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From 'The Herald'
Front Page

Gothic governments began issuing statements almost immediately after the news of APOC's reformation reached Gholgoth's shores in what the Government is describing as an "irrational panic". Almost entirely critical, they claim that the sole purpose of APOC's existance is to oppose the geography-based alliance, which has adopted a mostly pacific stance since the indecisive conclusion of the 4 Day War with the Questerian Commonwealth

The charge was led by the Greater Continentian Empire of Cravan, a country that formerly described itself as libertarian and led the principally free alliance GASN into a controversial alliance with Gholgoth. Although not a member of the Gholgoth alliance or a constituent of any of the Gothic landmasses, Cravan took particularly heavy losses against the Questerian Commonwealth during the 4 Day War and is believed to be concerned that it would be on the front line of any future war between the two blocs.

This statement was soon followed by more from other Gothic nations, including the region-alliance's de-facto leader, Automagfreek. Bolshevik Gothic country Novacom even ordered its sovereign wealth fund, which appears to control all the country's outward investment, to withdraw from Praetonian stocks, leading to a drop in industrial shares mitigated by a boost in the value of banks that were able to exploit the rush-sell to purchase at below regular market price.

The Lord Chancellor criticised the move as being based on "fault premises," and stated that "even if it were government policy to seize Gothic assets in Praetonia, it has no legal means of doing so in peacetime." The CPI also attacked the move, which it said was a poorly representative of the status afforded to property rights in the Crown Commonwealth, and defended Praetonia as "the premier site for secure investment."

Meanwhile, the government denied that there were any plans to change relations with Gholgoth, which have remained in a state of vigilant neutrality since the 4 Day War and Gholgoth's increasing isolationism, as well as the de-facto collapse of its sister alliance, widely thought of as a 'holding company' for extra-regional psuedo-members also headed by Automagfreek, the 'New Alliance' Treaty Organisation. It pointed to the fact that no government or APOC statements had even mentioned Gholgoth, and that there were no changes in Praetonian military deployments despite the fact that Automagfreek has moved significant numbers of troops to within striking distance of Praetonian sovereign basings in Central Prestonia.

Although the Government has stated that it has no desire to create "needless antagonism" between Gholgoth and either the Crown Commonwealth or APOC, the Prime Minister warned that "if increasing Gothic paranoia [is indicative] of a more general shift back in Gothic willingness to engage in military action" that the Crown Commonwealth must "take all possible steps to defend herself," and that assaults on the sovereign basings in Central Prestonia in particular "would be considered a general assault on the Crown Commonwealth, and all appropriate measures will be taken with our allies to ensure the maintenance of His Majesty's lawful sovereignty over his territories."

APOC is not without controversy, however, attracting the ire of the opposition Crown Loyalist Party for "ensuring that the Crown Commonwealth will become entangled in any future repeat of the 4 Day War." The same party also tabled an Early Day Motion in Parliament condemning Automagfreek for using the phrase "we don't give a shit" in a diplomatic statement.

ooc:
Shaz:
I have not gotten to sleep before 1:30 AM for the past two and a half weeks. This is finally catching up with me. I'll get a reply up sometime.


IC:
Fax machines across NS Earth roared to life, the old network of diplomatic linkages once again opening vast lines of communication between various nations. For, were it not for the Jolt Ordinances of 20XX, would we not be in far more desperate times? Were it not for the signing in 20XX, would the new Ordinances of 20YY have even been possible?

But there were some who clung to the old ways, clutching to the accords of 20XX and preventing its retirement. And among them, there was but one who faxed elaborate calligraphy, one who deemed to hand write every message, and one who signed not once, but twice.

Salutations, Brothers and Sisters of the International Community!

It is a grand day when I can once again stand side by side with my various counterparts to proclaim the existence of a grand Alliance; an alliance built around the concept of the advancement of the human condition past the primitive roots espoused by myriad international organizations. In its absence, the power of certain entities has unfortunately been allowed to expand unchecked; the unfortunate result of which being the increased degradation of order and stability through the several vast sections of NationStates Earth.

Such nations as McPsychoville, whose semi-literate leadership has proclaimed the right and ability to intelligently comment on the state of APOC, regardless of its inability and disinclination to fully comprehend the entire scope of both the original and current incarnations of the Alliance and its proto-forms, have grown far past the bounds that were previously set forth in inter-APOC discussions from the original iteration. Such unchecked expansion and inanity must be rapidly rectified if we are to quickly restore to NationStates Earth the Socio-Economic situation which pervaded for various instances throughout the various incarnations of APOC and its predecessors and roll back the advances made by the several factions championing such aforementioned inanity.

In light of the present state of global affairs across the entirety of NationStates Earth, the Glorious Military Junta of No Endorse and its attached Nuclear Commonwealth pledge support to the present iteration of the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization for the foreseeable future. We intend to eliminate the inferior sections of the greater Civilization of Mankind and return to its rightful place the reign of the intellect above the rein of the inane ideology espoused by many a faction in present times.

In the process of such, the vast military-industrial infrastructure of the Military Junta and its various colonies and protectorates is hereby opened to all members of the Alliance within reason. We are ready and willing to supply the necessary tools for excising the cancer of inferior thought and action, as well as the provision of troops and military expertise.

Atal Amner
Atal Amner
Prime Minister of No Endorse
Arch Leader of the Glorious Military Junta
Senior Director of Muncherian Affairs
High Commander of the Armed Forces
Praetor of the Nuclear Commonwealth
Lord-Protector of New Heisen and Surrounding Lands
King of the Greater No Endorse State
President of the Senate
Duke of Havia
Baron of Aerona
Bearer of the Razor of Ockham
Loyal Advocate of Darwin

OOC-This newspaper is a satirical one.

The Cake
Is it a lie?
http://www.maj.com/gallery/Humhum/HavenMapz/gorilla.png
A simple comparison of Omar Pace to its cousin Jojo the Gorilla from Aiur City Zoo.
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EARLIER this morning, several smelly nations claimed that the amazingly awesome alliance, APOC, was targetting them as its main enemy. This has created a collective curtain across the otherwise intelligent brain of Zukariaa. One factory worker was quoted as saying,"Why does Omar Pace think anyone cares what he thinks? The guy looks and acts like a gorilla." A gorilla indeed (see pic.). A short poll was taken on reactions to Azrael the Advocate's statement and the leading answer was,"Like father, like son; that guy is a nincompoop!".

Yes, we are aware that that is an extremely specific answer.

But aside from all of this, Gholgoth seemed to feel like taking the time to respond to something supposedly "unimportant" in long and insulting sentences involved. Automagfreek's supposedly freedom-happy light of the Earth member (aka Gholgoth) Crimmond's leader, Omar Pace, threatened to arrest his nation's reporters for simply asking about APOC. Either he's hiding something, or he actually isn't as nice as Gholgoth likes to claim. All of those,"Gholgoth is the prosperous happy area of the world" statements just don't seem to fit..

But then, maybe we're picking on these guys too much. Picking on gorillas and Azrael the Advocate could be comparable to picking on that one retarded kid that always sits at your lunch table in school even though you keep asking teachers to make him go away because he slobbers everywhere. You feel horrible for doing it sometimes. Sometimes..

Okay, thats harsh, but lets face it; the way these guys go about politics is all wrong. They don't watch things unfold like normal people, they immedietly jump to stupid conclusions. They don't ask nations to politely stop responding to their messages, or simply not send them to that nation; they tell them that they "don't give a shit" about that nation's opinions. Very mature.

The problem is that these gorillas and retards at your lunchtable are susceptable to the same problems. If you look into their eyes for too long they flip out and attack you. When speaking to their delegates (assuming the smell is controlled) you have to act like an autistic kid to keep out of eye contact or face the wrath of a gorilla, a retard, or hell; even a retarded gorilla. Lords know what happens then.

The point is; no, Omar Pace and no, Azrael the Advocate. We don't care about your opinions or your claims of self-importance. APOC hasn't claimed any sort of interest in Gholgoth at all. By jumping to conclusions you have made only yourselves look like idiots. Until next time, this is the Cake.

The Hudson Herald

APOC: Is it relevant?

By David Adams

HUDSON (AP)

With the reformation of the dubiously named "Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization" last week, the question has been repeatedly raised whether such an alliance is necessary or even relevant to the current world stage.

This "alliance," if it can even be called such, combines the Catholic theocracy of the Imperium Doomanum with the ultra-capitalist Praetonian Empire. Throw in the Questarians, who seemingly still believe it's the year 1960, and what you get is less an alliance and more a collective cluster, with no clear goals, leadership, or purpose.

Determined to get a wide perspective on this issue, the Herald posted a survey on it's website last week, shortly after APOC's reformation was announced. The results are clear, with 73% of voters viewing APOC as "irrelevant to current affairs."

This view was apparent at last week's press conference with President Aaron Preston, in which he briefly addressed the APOC situation. Preston was quoted as stating that APOC "seems to exist only for the collective circle-jerking of it's members," and added that "while the Prestonian Republic, and myself personally, hold great respect for member-states Kampfers and Velkya, I personally believe their intentions are misguided."

Responding to the criticisms leveled at his nation by the Cohenian Imperium, Preston responded with a blunt "I don't give a flying fuck," and went on to suggest that Foreign Minister Beauregard's hated of Prestonia stemmed from "deficits in personal anatomy."

Surprisingly, little comment was made on the issue of the two foreign military bases on Prestonia, with Preston stating only that "plans were in the works," with regard to them.

At any rate, it seems Prestonians as a whole have bigger fish to fry than APOC.

Technopolis Times
Editorial Section
Dora Johaninine

Praetonians Detached from Reality?

The Praetonian Government earlier on today branded our state as Bolshevik, once more highlighting how far removed it’s politicians are truly from reality, indeed it’s people as a whole have forgotten or have shredded their government definitions, and is a sign that the Praetonian Leadership is in fact Mentally Unstable, theories of which abounded even during the height of relations with this questionable Tyrannical Nation, in a Scathing reply to news of Criticism of his running of the economy, Beckett Jalenza Minister for the Economy had this to say, “The Praetonians have long since held themselves on a rose pedestal, if their economic theory was as sound as their arrogance they’d be an economy worth investing in, but quite frankly there not, what with their recent underwriting of Questarian wartime debt, which is last estimated to be in the Hundred of Trillion Novons, in addition to questionable investments in nations such as Kahanistan the Praetonian Economy has in fact been headed for recession for several years now, believe me when I say this, that the so called Praetonian Prosperity is nought but a carefully constructed hoax disguising governmental ineptitude and managerial mismanagement of criminal incompetence, and I advise all nations to invest in other far more stable markets such as Pactialia , Oceania, and our own Novan economy,”

It would seem that the Praetonians are most eager to prove the minister correct, for he and numerous other investors have revealed to who in fact their investments were sold to, in a surprise move to Barbarossa Corp, A leading Corporation registered in the Ryou Black Islands at what was estimated to be 7 times their market value, a tidy sum for finally having ended what has noted to have been a charity investment that had been intended to stimulate the Praetonian Economy as a personal favour to government officials, one Investor even going so far as mentioning that he had been offered several contracts just to invest in the Praetonian Crown.

Of more disturbing revelation is the absurd stance that the Praetonians intend to continue their unlawful occupation of sovereign Central Prestonian Territory after years of hotly contested occupation which have left this peaceful nation in ruins, already three weeks into the rebuilding of said nation there have been an ever increasing amount of reports of mass executions by the Praetonian Colonial Authority, and indeed many displaced children have died due to diseases which could have been cured easily had simple vaccinations and medical attention been delivered in time.

Even more disturbing is the recent discovery of several mass graves have been discovered, and upon Autopsy virulent new nerve agents were discovered, in what has been stated to be the true face of Praetonia, leading to massive condemnations from Humanitarian groups, indeed several rallies as of late have chastised the government for not taking further sanction against this genocidal regime, which seems hell-bent on war after an intensification of military aircraft into the contested territories, several of which were turned back after a massive display of force by Gothic air formations, the even worrying factor is the possibility of nuclear weapons on Prestonian soil which has at present been tersely denied by the Crown Government, but of course as we have seen in the past the word of this supposed crown is not worth the paper on which it has been disseminated.

It seems inevitable that the two power blocs shall come to arms as the Praetonian Government with their ever reliable Mouth Piece The Herald continues to spew anti-Gholgoth and indeed anti-Civilisation propaganda to the world, it is the sincere regret of the editorial team here at the Technopolis Times that good journalism is sullied by such a publication, and that the amount of poor journalism out there being subscribed to and in turn believed by the populace of Praetonia, a populace by now over-saturated with pro-government imperialist propaganda that they have last all capacity to reason the truth from the carefully crafted lies of the government, too bad in this case they couldn’t keep their story straight.

The Daily Mianan
Opinion/Editorial

I Checked And No, APOC Still Doesn't Matter
David Gregory

Wow - the editorial response to my earlier article "APOC: 14 members, two incarnations, zero relevance" has been fairly stunning. The largest newspaper in Praetonia has responded - sadly, not mentioning the Whyatican Empire or me by name, which is really quite sad. Selling more papers would be nice. So apparently, all of us folks in Gholgoth are supposed to be shaking in our metaphorical boots over the reformation of APOC. I can almost assuredly tell you that this is not the case - my utterly unscientific straw poll in my favorite coffee store, 7th Street Coffee, showed that 70% of the respondents had no idea that APOC was even relevant the first time. The greatest part of that poll was the mere fact that the Empire is a former member of APOC. This alone should show you how completely irrelevant the Alliance is; the three out of ten that did respond were mostly veterans that actually served with APOC troops in operations abroad.

Praetonian editorials and government releases keep trying to push that "No, really, we matter! LOOK AT US! WE'RE RELEVANT!". All I can say in response to that is "No, King George." APOC is talk - that is essentially it. The Whyatican economy and way of life will trudge on, ignoring the rather pretentious Praetonian newspapers. Hell, the only reason I ever saw the article in the first place is because of an article on a popular satirical website.

The following is a copy of an op-ed piece published on the website "www.KorronisHerald.com". All rights reserved.

"Bluster does not hide infidel deceits"
Praetonian 'Herald' speaks for its government

As, of course, is proper, very few of us read the newspapers of heathens, and since two days ago, when the Imperium announced its official condemnation of the new APOC, the subscriptions in Kregaia to the Praetonian 'Daily Herald' have dropped 95%; therefore, few people know that yesterday the 'Herald' published a front-page article in which it proclaimed Gholgoth to be in an "irrational panic" over the formation of APOC, and quoted a statement by the Prime Minister that "if increasing Gothic paranoia [is indicative] of a more general shift back in Gothic willingness to engage in military action", Praetonia would act to defend itself.

This is, of course, typical of those neo-colonial idolaters. The pattern is easily recognizable: first, to attack the credibility of Gholgoth, the 'Herald' proclaims official condemnations to be equivalent to widespread panic at the highest levels of government. Ignoring the fact that the Imperium does not fear APOC, this author prefers to focus instead on this illogical and hypocritical equivocation. If it were true, then Praetonia, for example, is in terrified disarray at the outbreak of riots in Kahanistan, seeing as the acting Prime Minister, Sir Thomas Redbridge, issued a strongly-worded condemnation of that not long ago.

Second, the 'Herald' attacks Gholgoth's foresight by innocently remarking that APOC was never mentioned as a counter to Gholgoth in any of the multiple public statements made until now. It is interesting that such manipulators of meaning and phraseology, like so many spiders twitching the threads of their web of half-truths, as the Praetonians, would accuse Gholgoth of reacting to statements that were not explicitly made. But a blind heathen child could pick out the truths in this matter, and interpret them correctly.

Central Prestonia, now a brother of Gholgoth, is threatened by a Questarian base in his territory. The Questarian Empire is essentially the twin of the Praetonian Crown Commonwealth, and both of them are members of APOC. A threat from one amounts to a threat from the other. Moreover, no conceivable threat in the world could provoke such diverse empires to assemble as have done so under APOC, save for the perceived threat that Gholgoth poses to them. This threat is, of course, imaginary: Gholgoth threatens nothing that does not attempt to threaten it. If Gholgoth did not provoke these nations to join together, I ask you, Prime Minister Redbridge, what exactly did? An alliance forms, to 'defend civilization', out of the ruins of its predecessor (which, as Kregaians well know, was indeed aimed at countering Gholgoth), and yet, if the Praetonians can be trusted, there is no cause for this at all. It is hardly necessary to add that no, the infidels cannot be trusted. Finally, let us examine the records of these nations. Doomingsland has been attacked by Gholgothan forces twice: once by Lord Dreadfire and once by our noble warriors under Lord Rahvin. Questaria was utterly crushed by Gholgoth and Gholgoth-aligned forces in the Four Day War, and now that they have suddenly rediscovered how economics work, they seem to be ready to prove (with an economy still swathed in scars from the multiple figurative surgeries required to prolong its existence) that they can, in fact, threaten our alliance, although history begs to differ. Praetonia fell along with Questaria, and by the mercy of Gholgoth alone evaded crippling damage to its much-lauded economy. This trio, unquestionably the leaders of the honorless and conniving cabal that is APOC, are equally unquestionably enemies of Gholgoth. But of course, as the Praetonians have so wisely instructed us, such facts mean nothing in the face of their simple statement: nobody has mentioned APOC as a counter to Gholgoth.

Finally, the eagerness of the 'Herald' is rather suspect. The paper seems to be rather interested in poking fun at the most powerful alliance on Earth, which is particularly odd, seeing as their position is exactly in line with that of the Praetonian government. For a culture devoted to countering the influence of the government with an inquisitive, free, and powerful press, the Praetonian media has a remarkable record of sticking to their government's official stance. A tiny paragraph at the end of the article that hastily describes opposition to APOC within Praetonia hardly registers as any kind of departure from the position of the government. It is obvious that the Praetonian media is shockingly corrupt, collaborating with the government to pump a single opinion, that of the aforementioned government, into the brain of every single Praetonian citizen, something that stands in direct opposition to their vaunted free culture, enshrined in their Constitution.

Will the Praetonians abandon such hypocrisy and corruption? Will they desist from impugning the honor and insulting the integrity of Gholgoth? Will they ask the Questarian Commonwealth to cease provoking Gholgothan nations by keeping a base on Gholgothan territory? Will they cease to lie, clumsily "concealing" their true purpose of assisting their government with the dissemination of propaganda and vile lies?

Of course not. So batten down the hatches and prepare for a bullshit storm of epic proportions, Kregaia. The Praetonians are in town.

Reprinted from the Kent Tribune

In Brief: Poll: Akimonad alienated by APOC-Gholgoth squabbling

Kent, Akimonad - A recent poll of Akimonad citizens has shown that an overwhelming majority - 81% - are fed up or otherwise annoyed by the continual disputes between the newly-reformed APOC and Gholgoth.

Further polls showed that 71% of those surveyed are disillusioned with the Questarian Commonwealth.

Many of those who were interviewed said they want to get Akimonad out of the QC.

Dr. Hodz was quick to respond to dispel any rumors.

"We're staying in the QC, for the time being. We are by no means supporting APOC, though. We have friendly relations with many Gholgothic nations, and APOC stands to destroy all of that. Should this pointless bickering continue, more action will be taken."

On the whole, Akimonad has maintained its typical isolation and apathy regarding international affairs.

The Goldton Post
APOC Potentially Dangerous says FAA Scott Oron

When asked about the reformation of Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization, Foreign Affairs Adviser Scott Oron, currently standing in for the High General, said that APOC is potentially dangerous and that he wouldn't be surprised if its reformation brought about another World War. It is hard to not agree with him, after all it is a conglomerate of powerful war like nations including the infamous Doomingsland and Questers. While many Aurum Domans look up to the Doomanis as powerful war lords don't forget that the Doomani have killed millions without any remorse. Questers is run by a corrupt monarchy that so far has failed to actually fix the mistakes of the pre war government. It is not unreasonable to think that these nations would start another World War. They all collectively hate Gholgoth and Gholgoth hates them. It is only a matter of time before APOC goes after the Gothic nations simply for being Gothic nations. The United Federation of Allied Nations is expected to throw their support behind Gholgoth in the event of a global conflict but only time will tell.

APOC's and Gholgoth's Penises - Who Really Cares?


Richard Wang
Tenarius, Siriusa

Only a few days ago, the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization (APOC) reformed, headed by nations such as Questers, Doomingsland, and Praetonia, all nations which the citizens of Siriusa know well. After all, it was only a matter of years ago that Questers and Doomingsland were in Nova Europa during the war with The PeoplesFreedom, and Praetonia is famous in Siriusa for its booming adult film industry.

Of course, not many people know what APOC does, or what it even is. APOC is, in a nutshell, an alliance of nations with a fancy name and a big dick to show off. The alliance claims to be "unstoppable," using the light of civilization and liberty as a simile of their power, which only helps to prove the size of its immense and manly cock.

This does, however, leave some glaringly obvious questions, such as: if APOC was so great, why does it have to b reformed, why are the Doomanis claiming to "keep the world safe from barbarianism and tyranny," just how big is this rumored penis, and, most importantly, who cares?

To answer the final and most important question, our very own Willy Johnson went out onto the streets of Siriusa to ask the citizens what they think. Rather unsurprisingly, only about 10% of the people polled actually knew what APOC was, and 80% of that 10% (that's 8%, for you mathematically challenged folks) hastened to change the subject to something more of greater interest, like watching paint dry and grass grow.

However, it does not appear that everyone in the world is bored by APOC. Quite the contrary, and much to the surprise of everyone in Siriusa who bothered to notice, Gholgoth has become quite defensive over the whole situation.

After a recent article from the Praetonian press, Gholgoth's members have grown quite defensive at the Praetonian's claims that the people of Gholgoth are quaking in their boots and Gholgoth's penis does not measure up to that of APOC. The Praetonian article prompted responses from Gholgoth members Central Prestonia, Novacom, Whyatica, and The Warmaster, supposedly four of the most phallically gifted nations in the Gholgoth regional alliance.

The four nations, in response to the "scathing" article, quickly published news editorials of their own, making various strong, manly statements such as such as, "Prestonians as a whole have bigger fish to fry than APOC," that a Praetonian fleet was repelled by a "massive display of force by Gothic air formations," "the Imperium does not fear APOC," "Questaria was utterly crushed by Gholgoth and Gholgoth-aligned forces in the Four Day War," and that Gholgoth is "the most powerful alliance on Earth." The heads of the Gholgoth alliance should be proud of its members valiantly defending the size of its penis against the nasty claims by the Praetonians.

Even more odd is the seemingly aloof, uncaring Whyatican statement, "The Whyatican economy and way of life will trudge on, ignoring the rather pretentious Praetonian newspapers," in an editorial that was published less than an hour and a half after the publishing of the Praetonian article, which leaves many people wondering if Whyatica is hiding something. Uncertainty? Perhaps fear, masked by bragging? Or, there is a chance that Whyatica's phallus is perhaps smaller than that of Praetonia?

But really, who gives two shits about Gholgoth and APe-cOCk? No matter who comes out on top, APOC or Gholgoth, it should now be fairly evident to the civilized world that the maturity of the two alliances has descended to that commonly found in a children's schoolyard, in which two gangs shout, "yes you are!" "No I'm not!" "Yes you are!" "No I'm not!" back and forth and therefore do not deserve half of the respect that they receive.

The fact that nations around the world look up to the nations involved in these alliances leaves me with little faith for mankind.


The views of Richard Wang do not reflect those of the Tenarius Times or Siriusa's government.

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War of the Words
APOC and Gholgothic Newspapers collide, and Gholgoth wins... In stupidity

If you have been reading any paper lately, you would know have seen the recent verbal sparring between the nations of Gholgoth and the recently refounded APOC. The various Gholgothic papers and leaders continue to dismiss APOC as a non issue, as simply a fad, yet the fact that they would spend their time adressing this issue so frequently and with such vigor in and of itself proves themselves wrong. APOC is relevant, and they know it.

The national leader of Central Prestonia, a new addition to the Gholgothic family and considered to be one of their less prestigeous members, spoke to his national newspaper this weekend. The Prestonian embassy was unavailable for comment on this issue, but we have confirmed that Aaron Preston has the average intelligence of a five year old Kampferian child. We are ashamed that our counterparts at the Hudson Herald were shameless enough to not filter his statements of his crude language such as "c----- j---". Secondly, all it takes is five seconds and a fresh search engine and he can clearly see that Velkya is not an APOC member state. I thought these national leaders were just fed sentences for their iterviews so they could look good, not bad!

Furthermore, the nation of Aurum Domus has proven yet again just how ridiculous it is. While they make outlandish claims that "The United Federation of Allied Nations is expected to throw their support behind Gholgoth in the event of a global conflict," they have no solid evidence besides that the nation of Central Prestonia, a member state, has joined Gholgoth. He fails to realize, however, that the nation of Kampfers alone is still allied to and maintains very close ties to the founding nations of UFAN, Wagdog and Vetaka, and that Vetaka is a member of the Questarian Commonwealth, and Questers is a part of APOC.

Finally, the Gholgothic papers make false claims about past events. For example, one states that "Questaria was utterly crushed by Gholgoth and Gholgoth-aligned forces in the Four Day War", which is blatant propaganda and nothing else. Questers dealth Gholgoth/NATO heavy blows, especially in the naval theatre, while fighting largely on her own during the Four Day War. The nation of Allanea lost over 5,000 tanks in one single air strike. The nation of Cravan had literally half of its Navy bottomed out on the ocean floor. The Questarians shot down the Kahn missiles of the enemy like there was no tommorow. Now, the Kahn's will be coming from APOC's side, as their creator, ZMI, has chosen to align itself with APOC. No, Gholgoth did not crush Questers. Besides, where is the glory in 10-12 nations ganging up and defeating one? There is none. Gholgoth gained no glory that day, and they never will. Until they stop wishing that APOC was irrelevant and insulting the various members, APOC will never be able to pursue its true goals: ridding the world of barbaric nations. Or, depending on the stance of the reader, perhaps that is Gholgoth. Perhaps APOC has come to save us all.

"Stand with those who stand in the Light, and you shall see those in the Dark stand with you." -Ancient Vantanian Proverb

President Zaphod Beeblebrox was the President of the Free Republic of Vantanas. Had he been the President of any other country, this would have carried some aura of power and respect, but not in Vantanas. In Vantanas, the person who was the most likable was elected president to serve as the figurehead of the Free Republic, a symbolic figure with absolutely no power at all. Most of the time, the President just delivered news from the National Assembly on their acts, reforms, bans, and the lot. The rest of the time he looked really cool, showing up at parties, driving around in the best of sportscars, and the occasional personal crusade to fix this issue or that. However, occasionally, he had to give important speeches.

Now was one of those occasions, and he swaggered to the podium in an outrageous suit (http://www.suavecito.com/images/Suits/zoot_suit_blueshark.jpg) through the drizzling rain. Flashing a small as white as white, he pulled his hair back through his golden hair, before leading the assembled press, observers, politicians, and statesmen in the nation anthem, Champions, March! When the song was finished, made unique by his alternating breathtaking vocals or out of sync singing, the massive Vantanian flag behind him vanished like a curtain, revealing the symbol of the APOC. It was to this background that Zaphod Beeblebrox gave his speech:

"Being for the benifit of the Free Republic of Vantanas, Civilization, and the Free World, I hereby submit the Free Republic's membership application to the mercy of the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilzation. Through fighting vicious barbarians in the recent, and quite bloody, Vante-Kroandon War, we have found a new, deeper respect to the marvels of Civilization, and the need for its protection from foes like Gholgoth, the Kroandons, and any other foe that may rear its ugly head. You see, I personally fought in the Vante-Kroandon War, in the Colony of Spire, and it was there that I realized how opressed parts of the world are. Stifiling communists, socialists, and fascists control the governments of too many nations, and they have a single minded passion to destroy that which is greater than them, the Free World."

"We may not be the strongest of the Free World, or present ourselves as remarkable in anyway. But know this: In every Vantanians heart, even immigrants, is the will of a national patriot, and the strength of a fighter. We have been promoting civilization where ever we could, fighting the barbarian hordes of Kroando in the Vante-Kroandon War, liberating the imprisoned people of nations like Route1 in the Highway War, purging the Communist disease from our noble race in the Steelhammer Wars, winning our rights in the War of Sovereignty and the War of the Proletariat, and spreading the Light of Civilization to dark corners of the world by establishing colonies. My friends, though we unfortunately could do little to fight in the legendary Questo-Gholgothic War, known to the rest of the world as the Four Days War, we supported the Hegemon of the Free World, Questers, with immigrant-soldiers and funds. And this support did not wain after the end of the war either, with our government continuing to send a steady flow of investments and money into the Questarian economy."

"With all of these things in mind, I hope that the leadership of APOC agrees to let us into their hallowed ranks, so that when the time comes, Vantanian soldiers may spread themselves to the farflung corners of NationStates to fight for the greatest Civilization. Thank you, and good night!"

"Liberty Upheld!"
Concordiant Independence Secured

Freebird Online, X/X/XX, taken from freebirdpress.co.sc, article written by Anita Coronado

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Concordiant Capitol Building Post Crackdown

Amidst a massive police dispersal of rapidly degrading rioting outside of the Capitol, the tempest inside the halls of our intranational government as finally subsided, and the Senate has cast its collective ballot to decide the political future of the Concordiant. On a vote of thirty six to twelve, a landslide victory in any book, the ship known as 'liberty' had weathered the storms of foreign interference. As of 12:00 PST May 3rd, 2028, the Concordiant officially remains free of the influence of the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization.

Accompanying this announcement (made public the following morning) were massed celebrations in the streets of liberal metropolises such as Donnet City, Southport, and our very own Ourund. While conservative groups are certainly not pleased by the ruling, they are more than happy to cut their losses in the face of friendly competition with their leftist rivals, as the Concord Cup football championship between the Eurusium Lionhearts and Southport Aqua looms closer on the horizon.

Roberto E. Diaz, an official spokesman for the Foreign Affairs Ministry, went on to the say of the fierce verbal and political battles between the Gholgothian nations and their APOC rivals.

"Of course, peace and harmony throughout the world should be the goal of all civilized nations, with the use of deadly military force presenting a weighty option of last resort. While, as our Senate has demonstrated, we shall remain neutral in the power dispute, we humbly ask all parties to return to the table of brotherhood and to be more diplomatic in their dealings with each other in the future."

Interestingly enough, to coincide with the press release of the statement, a large naval exercise involving warships of Concordiant Maritime Defense Command and the Royal Aralonian Navy (a member nation of the APOC alignment) was carried out in the Eastern Havenic Ocean, simulating what strategists refer to as a "foreign ingression from the southwest". The exact details, of course, remain classified.

LOL
As seen in the ILLIOR TODAY under Op eds, taken from opeds.ilnet.il/Schneider/2/6.htm

No, Basshunter’s newest album is not the topic of this editorial this week, but the absolute sillyness of all the asshatery of what has been dubbed by international affairs wankers as “COLD WAR: PART ∞.” The average Illiorian has no concept of what APOC truly is, and most think it’s some new sexually transmitted disease that was created by generations of inbreeding in some nutty nation such as Zukariaa. APOC is the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization. That pretty name really has nothing to do with the alliance’s actual purposes… well… as far as I can tell, because many of the member states’ versions of “civilization” differ so greatly that if they were to even attempt to “preserve civilization” they’d have to invade each other, enforce inquisitions to convert the heathens to their respective ways, and then have to deal with a thousand years rebellion.

Let’s take a look at what I mean: Praetonia and Doomingsland. In my humblest of opinions, Praetonian “civilization” can be summed up shortly as “perverted capitalist Darwinism” in which monopolies tend to run the state, as seen by their “king” who owns half of the economy. Doomingsland on the other hand can be described as a “fascist theocracy”, with their emperor’s belief that it is his personal mission to convert the rest of the world to Doomani Catholicism. Now, what would happen if these nations decided to try and “preserve” their respective “civilization”? It’s a question I’ve pondered ever since starting my research on APOC, or as one Siriusian author dubbed it “APe-cOCk” (quite hilarious in my opinion, although I would’ve liked to see one for Gholgoth), and I haven’t come up with the perfect answers. On the other hand, I do have some theories, but most end up with the world exploding as the Doomani Emperor and the Praetonian King squabble over who controls what, as religion naturally censors thought, which would seriously hurt innovation, which drives the economy.

But enough of my rantings and ramblings over the illogicals of this alliance, and onto the LOL factor of the week. APOC has earned my Lulzy award due to its complete overdoing of international reactions. Many Ape-cOCk nations have had their national mouth pieces come out and attempt to rebut “Gholgothian propaganda,” when in reality, only FIVE nations of Gholgoth have somehow responded officially. Five out of twenty-five… Hrm… that doesn’t seem like a consensus to me, and the last time I checked, Illior and her brethren were sovereign states and not a part of a collective controlled by some hegemonic and delusional asshat. Anyways, I asked a friend in the Illiorian National Governing Council about how this was going to be handled, and she essentially said “we really don’t give a ****ing ****. They could die and reform this alliance an infinite amount of times for all we care”. Hence why APOC gets the Lulz of the week: their delusional self importance on the world stage and overstatement of several sovereign reactions representing roughly twenty other sovereign nations falsely makes them completely deserving of this award.

Next week’s candidates: Pacitalian economists, Sarzonian Diplomats, Freekish Sentinels, Sodian slave owners or NATO.

Written by Jason Schneider with all research on Praetonia, Doomingsland and APOC done by twelve Guinea pigs, two Parrots and a Chimp operating computers with the use of wheel based electricity.

APOC Criticism Brings About Startling Media Revelations
Racine Journal Times
Matt Hastings

I'm sure by now the public is aware of the exchange of words taking place through media outlets across the world, particularly between those who reside here in Gholgoth and those whos nations have alligned themselves with this "APOC". Now, normally this reporter could care less about the specifics and simply inform the public of the talking points in a short column on the inside page, but over the past few days a shocking trend is taking place...foreign media outlets are acting more like government press corps.

Let's take for example the Praetonian 'Herald', which for years has fallen exactly in line with what the Crown both thinks and does. Obviously this is an example of state run media, as 'Herald' reporters rarely if ever openly disagree with decisions their leadership makes, instead favoring to bash their diplomatic rivals by regurgitating government rhetoric which routinely proves itself to be nothing more than flowery worded bluster. I could write a novel on the 'Herald' and its ultra-loyalist approach to its government, but let's move on down the line.

Then we come to reporter Richard Wang, who thinks that simply because papers within Gholgoth report on the same issue that all of a sudden our collective governments are expressing fear or concern. Excuse me sir, but where do you get off? Press within Gholgothan nations is unbiased and not tied to the government, and free reporting does not equal government fear. Please sir, tell me how this conclusion was reached. Only a small handful of official responses have been issued by Gholgothan authority, none of which address specific talking points from APOC rebuttals, but instead speak of APOC's existance as a whole. It may come as a shock to you sir, but our papers are not government mouthpieces.

Then we come to the Kampferian Daily Post, and an unknown author who succeeds at butchering and distorting the facts. The Post again makes the same assumptions as Mr. Wang that coverage by free media outlets equates to official government viewpoints, opinions, statements, or acknowledgements. The Freekish government itself has made but a single statement concerning APOC and has so far not issued further comment on the matter, but somehow conclusions are being drawn that because the media is following the story that somehow the Freekish government is both worried about APOC and foaming at the mouth over the clearly biased "reporting" (for lack of a better description). Apparantly the Post thinks that there should be but a single newspaper within Gholgoth, because if more than one within this multi-billion person region should report on it, clearly our government leaders are worried.

Then we come to the distorted facts that the Post reports about the infamous 4 Day War, which the Journal Times followed closely. The facts are quite clear, the Questarian Navy entered Gholgothan and Freekish waters and immediately fell under a massive missile barrage, at which point it literally did an about face and retreated into international waters without returning fire. This is and of itself could either be spouted as a decisive Gholgothan victory, or an episode of massive incompetence on behalf of the Questarian Navy.

The Post also makes the false assumption that "ten to twelve nations ganged up on Questers", when it reality it was Questers that started the war. And ten to twelve is a grossly overinflated number, as only several NATO member states participated in the war. The Post also fails to note the mass bombing of London by the Allanean Air Force, the near economic collapse of Questers, and the riots that ensued after a mere four days of fighting. After four days the Questarian government capitualted and withdrew all its forces from combat theaters, and yet The Post claims that somehow Questaria is able to save face from this incident? Again, questionable journalism, since reality seems to have gone straight out the window for some people.

So, to my colleagues in this field, I urge you to use your pens more wisely. Think for yourselves and don't regurgitate what your governments say and think. Don't make the assumption that free journalism ammounts to national fear or panic, and the thousands of Freekish papers within Automagfreek all reported in some manner the events of recent days. Use your heads, that's why you're in this field in the first place.

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OOC: Guys, I'm extremely dissappointed in a lot of you. Since when do newspaper reports constitute government sentiment? Some of you seem to be blurring the OOC and IC lines here, and really, I would have expected better. There have only been 5 official government responses from 5 different Gothic nations (1 each, for those that don't catch on so fast), every other post has been a newspaper article, and yet some of you are blurring the line and assuming that we're issuing statement after statement on the matter.

Poor form.

THE SARIS CHRONICLE – SHORTLIST
The Nonagon, New Saris, Tarina Administrative Zone, Northern Aralonia

Today, the government of the Royal Sovereignty declared allegiance and aid to the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilisation, further cementing ties with external nations. Due to internal troubles in the Coercia-Permitere region of the nation, Aralonia has closed itself from external affairs, but now is beginning to muster its strength once again to the world at large. This comes months after a statement by Aralonian higher command that a military reduction became underway, though reports have shown that the military is phasing out its older goods for new war machines, instead of fully reducing. No Aralonian political leaders could be contacted about these events today.

Other news stories today are further death counts of Aralonian soldiers against Coercian rioters...

[totally half-assed, I know, just too damn tired to write anything good nowadays]

Zukariaa;13428318']OOC-This newspaper is a satirical one.

The Cake
Is it a lie?
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A simple comparison of Omar Pace to its cousin Jojo the Gorilla from Aiur City Zoo.
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EARLIER this morning, several smelly nations claimed that the amazingly awesome alliance, APOC, was targetting them as its main enemy. This has created a collective curtain across the otherwise intelligent brain of Zukariaa. One factory worker was quoted as saying,"Why does Omar Pace think anyone cares what he thinks? The guy looks and acts like a gorilla." A gorilla indeed (see pic.). A short poll was taken on reactions to Azrael the Advocate's statement and the leading answer was,"Like father, like son; that guy is a nincompoop!".

Yes, we are aware that that is an extremely specific answer.

But aside from all of this, Gholgoth seemed to feel like taking the time to respond to something supposedly "unimportant" in long and insulting sentences involved. Automagfreek's supposedly freedom-happy light of the Earth member (aka Gholgoth) Crimmond's leader, Omar Pace, threatened to arrest his nation's reporters for simply asking about APOC. Either he's hiding something, or he actually isn't as nice as Gholgoth likes to claim. All of those,"Gholgoth is the prosperous happy area of the world" statements just don't seem to fit..

But then, maybe we're picking on these guys too much. Picking on gorillas and Azrael the Advocate could be comparable to picking on that one retarded kid that always sits at your lunch table in school even though you keep asking teachers to make him go away because he slobbers everywhere. You feel horrible for doing it sometimes. Sometimes..

Okay, thats harsh, but lets face it; the way these guys go about politics is all wrong. They don't watch things unfold like normal people, they immedietly jump to stupid conclusions. They don't ask nations to politely stop responding to their messages, or simply not send them to that nation; they tell them that they "don't give a shit" about that nation's opinions. Very mature.

The problem is that these gorillas and retards at your lunchtable are susceptable to the same problems. If you look into their eyes for too long they flip out and attack you. When speaking to their delegates (assuming the smell is controlled) you have to act like an autistic kid to keep out of eye contact or face the wrath of a gorilla, a retard, or hell; even a retarded gorilla. Lords know what happens then.

The point is; no, Omar Pace and no, Azrael the Advocate. We don't care about your opinions or your claims of self-importance. APOC hasn't claimed any sort of interest in Gholgoth at all. By jumping to conclusions you have made only yourselves look like idiots. Until next time, this is the Cake.

[OOC: First off... you just made my day with this post. I was wondering when people would start commenting that he has the Neanderthal look going on.]

Omar personally pens a reply to the editors of 'The Cake'.

It has been brought to my attention by a Sergeant on my staff, whom obviously does not have a difficult enough workload or is slacking up on the job, of the 'news' story you have posted concerning my comments.

Your article brought a rare smile to my face. Not for the reasons you may think, but because I just love seeing the depths of desperation people will go to to insult world leaders these days. Especially one such as myself, who holds very little interest in what APOC does. The only reason I gave it a second glance was to remind the Vetalians that they are still being watched.

For your own entertainment, I have included this image of me setting fire to a printout of this article.

-General Omar Pace
Leader of the Brotherhood

Indeed the picture was there... but the editor probably wasn't expecting the comically oversized zippo used to do the burning.

United Trailer Parks International Mass Communique

Dear Leadership of the APOC,

In light of the recent declining of our admittance into your halls, the Homeowners association has issued the following statment:

As of this day the United Trailer Parks will be placing its alligances with the forces of Gholgoth, for any and all conflicts, declared wars, or covert operations that may be used against any and all APOC members and/or supporters. Futhermore, Trade is hence forth ceased with any APOC member or supporter and all trade good that may be within the nation of United Trailer parks will be siezed and sold without proper authority or permissions for the sole profit of the United Trailer parks.

In light of this announcment we humblly(SP) Offer our alligances to the Gholgoth Regional powers, if they so choose to accept us.

signed,
Azuala The head Associate
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Official Clandonian Response
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Open Declaration:

His Majesty's Government formally backs the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization and requests membership. In light of the recent rise in military tensions in Gholgoth following the Questerian purchase of IPN Northford. The Imperial Crown Kingdom stands by the shared values of the member states of APOC. For the preservation of the shared values of capitalism and laissez faire must be protected from those that wish to erode this values in the face of statist intervention and tyranny.


God Save the King



Prime Minister Sir David Sistilin


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Clandonia joins reformed APOC

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RAF B-22's, another two squadrons on route to IPN Northford

From the Warminster City Times
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Dramatic developments in the last forty eight hours have seen Clandonia join the newly reformed Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization, commentators are saying the reforming is due to the new threat that Gholgoth has decided to assert on the free world with the entry of rogue state Central Prestonia into Gholgoth's protective umbrella. Due to an old agreement between Praetonia and Prestonia, two bases were sold to Praetonia who recently sold one base to Questers, in order to help bring more allied aligned forces to influence the Gholgoth region which has had bases in APOC majority regions such as Haven for several years now. The Prime Ministers welcomed the formation of APOC in the House of Commons pledging the Crown Kingdoms support for the organisation. The War Office also releashed a statement suggesting an increase of 32 heavy strategic B-22 bomber aircraft boosting the Clandonian detachment to the Praetonian owned base. Several commentators have suggested there is now a genuine fear by Gholgoth nations for the 'bombers and navies of liberty' now in strike range of their homeland, offsetting the strategic imbalance caused by foreign bases in Haven. Clandonia itself has two areas of interest which are within Aequation influence, the Tristian Peninsula has seen its naval commitment increase with further four battlefleets and naval bomber sorties patrol the area around the Clandonian Arctic Territories and Volstad. What is of particular concern is the presence of Aequation forces on the islands of 'Aequatious Decca'. Clandonian commanders have begun moving equipment and in particular naval bombers to the area to remove any threat of invasion in the sparely occupied Northern counties. Some fear a world wide repeat of the Four Day War in which several APOC members were not involved, notably Aralonia, Praetonia and Clandonia, each with sizeable navies that could influence a future fight.

Leading Clandonian strategist, Retired Admiral Lord Dresfide who is a Professor and the respected Warminster School of War, Strategy and Intelligence said it would be foolish for people to shed off APOC now. "With the two most powerful navies, one of the most fearsome land armies and the economic empowerment of the member nations then it may be the first time that Gholgoth has faced a power check on such a unified level." Parties in the Commons met with mixed reaction, all parties condemned the brutal and common use of profanities in both national newspapers and diplomatic statements, House Leader Sir Micheal Timmins called order as the Chamber erupted in laughter when Liberal MP Darren Microft implied it was due to the barbarian nature of Freekish politics. Other MP's from the Clandonian Labour Party expressed shock at the entry into APOC with serious human rights violations alleged to continue in Doomingsland and the increased threat that Clandonia will now face with its entry. Labour MP's tabled a motion to investigate the entry but with HMG securely saying that membership will remain key to future diplomatic relations and allied foreign policy. Despite Gholgoth and its allies trying to dampen down the impact of APOC it has only increased interest and speculation, Foreign Office Minister Sir Alan Philips said "The Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization is here to stay, it will leave its impact on the world in the creation of a New World Order, one to create peace, liberty, freedom and free trade."

Kahanistan National News

Once again, our so-called protector George IV of Praetonia decides to show his complete lack of credibility among all right-thinking people of Kahanistan.

Praetonia, historically an ally of such nations as Questers and Doomingsland, now joins forces with the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilisation, members of which have attempted many times before to destroy little Kahanistan. A high-ranking general who wishes to remain anonymous stated that "it is absurd to expect an APOC state, a member of an alliance that has attacked our interests repeatedly, to act credibly as our protector. If it were up to me, we would withdraw from our treaty with them right now."

Similar views have been reported even among those who were previously friendly toward Praetonia, but now fear that their protector will betray them if it suits their interests. "This is not a conflict between socialism and capitalism," said Liberal Party senator Karim al-Mutar. "This is about advancing the interests of APOC states - G-d only knows what they are - at the expense of smaller nations."

United Trailer Parks International Mass Communique

Dear Leadership of the APOC,

In light of the recent declining of our admittance into your halls, the Homeowners association has issued the following statment:

As of this day the United Trailer Parks will be placing its alligances with the forces of Gholgoth, for any and all conflicts, declared wars, or covert operations that may be used against any and all APOC members and/or supporters. Futhermore, Trade is hence forth ceased with any APOC member or supporter and all trade good that may be within the nation of United Trailer parks will be siezed and sold without proper authority or permissions for the sole profit of the United Trailer parks.

In light of this announcment we humblly(SP) Offer our alligances to the Gholgoth Regional powers, if they so choose to accept us.


Quite frankly, we question the wisdom of United Trailer Parks' decision to immediately give allegiance to Gholgoth after being rejected for membership by APOC. It would appear that UTP sees only two sides to this situation. Other nations which we have had relatively stable relations with in the past, like The Federated Concordiant, decided that the best path for their nation was neutrality towards APOC and Gholgoth, and we had expected that your nation would take this path as well. However, we shall not concern ourselves on the matter, it is your nation's decision.

Peter Gregory
Secretary of State
The Chevrokian Republic

Technopolis Times
Editorial Section
Dora Johaninine
Yet More APOC Arrogance in Diplomatic Scandal
Surprise! Surprise! (Not!) The Clandonians put their foot in it as usual!

Earlier Today the Clandonians attempted to enter Central Prestonian Airspace and were chased away with threat of armed force when the Number 277-16B Tokontu Wing, intercepted the attempt to reinforce the Illegal facilities within this tortured nation, which is still recovering after decades on the receiving end of the so-called Praetonian Dream, which has left an estimated three quarters of a Billion dead from Ethnic cleansing under taken by the Praetonian Colonial Authority, with a further half a Billion in urgent need of humanitarian aid with the Praetonian partial withdrawal from this once prosperous nation.

“Once again the Cavalier attitude of the Clandonians worsens an already tense situation,” stated a member of the diplomatic corps earlier on today “this further attempt to concrete the illegal holdings within Central Prestonia is at appearance only the beginning, as history will show us this is merely the beginning of what will surely be an intense campaign of typical Clandonian Incompetence, we expect infiltrations within Prestonian organisations of individuals wearing party glasses with attached noses, as this has been the standard disguise of the Clandonian Secret Service, you may think I’m joking but it’s a cold harsh fact that they [The Clandonians] are highly incompetent in all fields which they undertake and have yet to independently of any external assistance succeed in any civilian, military or political undertaking to date.”

The Two bases in question have been identified to be homes to the last remaining Praetonian Concentration Camps within Central Prestonia, it is a wonder to all civilised people’s as to why the Praetonians would wish to preserve such bases, except for use as a Casus Belli, for war against Greater Gholgoth, which the members of APOC have in past assailed as the ultimate threat of their ultimately degraded and depraved “civilisations” unfortunately it would seem now more than ever with the war of words intensifying between the two power blocs to previously unseen heights as a result of this latest spanner in the works.

On a more amusing note to our readers is this ridiculous assertation that APOC is the driving force of Liberty, when indeed thus far all of it’s signatories more than likely do not possess such a word in their national vocabulary, yet their diplomts and reporters continue to make use of such high flown language to shore up what is evidently a crumbling home front, as even the largely brain washed sheep that they [the nations of APOC] call citizenry indeed, at last independent external review of their health services showed that accidents involving butter knives were at record levels, which can only highlight that the common APOC citizen is not fit to even spread butter upon a slice of toast

Once again a number of governments including our own have called for a peaceable solution to the situation yet the APOC governments seem intent on driving this situation to a head, in hopes, perhaps, of attempting to destroy the memory of the fate of the previous incarnation of APOC, whose bloody reign of Ethnic Cleansing, Civilian Bombings and in general war of terror. Which saw just under 2 Trillion civilians killed as a result of their supposed campaign for civilisation which as a result countless nations were wiped off the face of the planet and consigned to the annals of history for some perceived slight, however the APOC of this year has even less relevance than last time, as several nations realizing that history is tragically about to repeat itself, have chosen not to once more become a part of the Alliance for the Perversion Of Civilisation.

[OOC: :rolleyes:

Why oh why did we give up on such brilliant RPs after 4 Day War collapsed? A sarcastic question, of course, but oh how I wish many of the statements I had the misfortune to read in this thread since my last post were similarly lighthearted. Please, just read the following strings of words, and ask yourself if you would honestly expect to find them in a real newspaper:

Preston was quoted as stating that APOC "seems to exist only for the collective circle-jerking of it's members,"
Preston responded with a blunt "I don't give a flying fuck," and went on to suggest that Foreign Minister Beauregard's hated of Prestonia stemmed from "deficits in personal anatomy."
LOL [this unfortunate specimen was meant to be a headline(!)]
The average Illiorian has no concept of what APOC truly is, and most think it’s some new sexually transmitted disease that was created by generations of inbreeding in some nutty nation such as Zukariaa.
Ape-cOCk nations
Honestly. This sort of thing is simply crass, poorly disguised OOC jabbing through an IC medium. For downright irrational rudeness it beats Zukariaa's nationalist satire paper. I was frankly shocked to read it, and I seriously hope I do not have to do so again.

Then there are the lesser categories of stupidity, for instance the seemingly endless stream of newspapers criticising foreign newspapers for bias whilst themselves attaining ludicrous new heights of bias. This sort of thing is alright if you're writing a nationalist tabloid like the RL Sun newspaper, but I get the impression that these are intended to be serious broadsheets.

Look carefully, for instance, at how I wrote my own article.

The Kingston Herald is a publicly pro-government newspaper. This is its market niche. Just as middle class, professional Conservative Party voters in the UK pick up the Daily Telegraph to read on the train to their jobs as bankers, lawyers and so on, so do middle class, professional Liberal-Tory (the present governing party) voters pick up The Kingston Herald. The paper openly endorsed the LTs at the last election and encouraged its readers to vote for them. This is an established RL practise in Britain, and I presume in America.

I make no apology for this - I write pro-government newspapers rather than, say, Whig (second largest party) or Crown Loyalist (third largest) papers not because they don't further my OOC opinion as well or arent as interesting to do, but because they give more insight into what the government thinks and is doing, given that I simply do not have time to write one of each. Nor do I see this as some huge contradiction of Praetonia's lack of government power, quite the contrary - a majority of Praetonians do usually agree with the general ideology of the governments that they vote for (why else would they vote for them?), and the society is both culturally quite homogenous and does not tend to give the benefit of the doubt to historic adversaries. When you are viewing Praetonia's actions, don't think that you are looking at a carbon copy of 2008 America, think more along the lines of 1900 Britain.

However, there is a difference between this and writing an OOC personal attack that is framed in IC terms. The newspaper itself does not any make partisan statements (with one possible exception). Warmaster's article devotes a lot of time and attention to highlighting instances of bias in the Herald's reporting but, in fact, every single one of the biased statements ascribed to the paper was either a direct quote or an attributed paraphrasing of something a high ranking government member said. Of course the government is biased - it is an involved political actor - and it is simply ridiculous to suggest that a Praetonian paper should not report the actions of its own government, not least one that the paper in question overtly supports. Moreover, the Herald never "breaks character" and starts sounding like a foul-mouthed teenager rather than a national broadsheet.

The Herald's bias is actually far more subtle, and focused on the context in which things are reported and what is picked up and highlighted and what is given more/less time or importance. This is how real life news providers express their bias. It is the difference that you will immediately notice if you compare, for example, a FOX online article with a New York Times online article. Finally, although it may sound a little self-congratulatory, the 2 line note in the Herald that a major political party objects to APOC membership is the only statement indicating that the other side may have the slightest possibility of being in the right I have heard from either side.

I considered making a whole host of snide IC posts pointing this out in an insulting manner, and that is certainly what I have been inclined to do in the past, but frankly I derive no pleasure from an RP that is clearly mutually OOCly antagonistic. If the Gholgoth players and the APOC players are genuinely incapable of doing a diplomatic confrontation with a semblence of detatchment and rationality, there is not much point in continuing to clog this thread with it.]

OOC: Prae, you need to seriously take a step back here and chill out with the paranoia. First of all, none of us on the Gholgoth side are thinly veiling OOC insults in the form of IC posts, and I did a double and even a triple take when I read your post. Thus far we have kept the OOC banter to an absolute minimum because we are thus far enjoying the IC play and do not want to see it wrecked.

In case you haven't noticed, few of us in Gholgoth RP as uppercrust gentlemen who mind their language and never insult anyone or use harsh words. In case you've been under a rock since 2004, you'd know that players like myself routinely rip others apart ICly but never let it slip into personal attacks. Either you've seriously lost faith in peoples ability to seperate OOC and IC, or you're simply not aware that the Gholgoth players are seasoned enough RPers to be able to be aggressive and insulting ICly and not take things personally.

Since you are taking this personally, then I'm seriously at a loss for words. If this RP isn't something you feel you can handle, by all means you're welcome to not take part. The rest of us are trading our IC barbs just fine and not bitching about it, in fact dare I say, we're having fun doing it.

If you honestly expected leaders and media from nations who hate yours to speak kind and nice, you're sorely mistaken. ICly you've put yourself in a position where we really don't like Praetonia, and much the way Rush Limbaugh insults his critics, we insult yours.

Quite frankly, we question the wisdom of United Trailer Parks' decision to immediately give allegiance to Gholgoth after being rejected for membership by APOC. It would appear that UTP sees only two sides to this situation. Other nations which we have had relatively stable relations with in the past, like The Federated Concordiant, decided that the best path for their nation was neutrality towards APOC and Gholgoth, and we had expected that your nation would take this path as well. However, we shall not concern ourselves on the matter, it is your nation's decision.

Peter Gregory
Secretary of State
The Chevrokian Republic

United Trailer Parks Mass International Communique

Official Reply:

Though you may have thought that our nation would take a nuetarl (SP) stance on this issuse, shows you know nothing of our people. We wished to join your Alliance, but was shot down, with no reason or explianation... Insulting. And such insults will not go unnoticed, nor will they hender us from obtaining glory.

Weather you wish to care or not... we shall see this travisty through.

Signed,
Azuala- Head Associate
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/hobbeeb/azuala.png

OOC: Prae, you need to seriously take a step back here and chill out with the paranoia. First of all, none of us on the Gholgoth side are thinly veiling OOC insults in the form of IC posts, and I did a double and even a triple take when I read your post. Thus far we have kept the OOC banter to an absolute minimum because we are thus far enjoying the IC play and do not want to see it wrecked.

In case you haven't noticed, few of us in Gholgoth RP as uppercrust gentlemen who mind their language and never insult anyone or use harsh words. In case you've been under a rock since 2004, you'd know that players like myself routinely rip others apart ICly but never let it slip into personal attacks. Either you've seriously lost faith in peoples ability to seperate OOC and IC, or you're simply not aware that the Gholgoth players are seasoned enough RPers to be able to be aggressive and insulting ICly and not take things personally.

Since you are taking this personally, then I'm seriously at a loss for words. If this RP isn't something you feel you can handle, by all means you're welcome to not take part. The rest of us are trading our IC barbs just fine and not bitching about it, in fact dare I say, we're having fun doing it.

If you honestly expected leaders and media from nations who hate yours to speak kind and nice, you're sorely mistaken. ICly you've put yourself in a position where we really don't like Praetonia, and much the way Rush Limbaugh insults his critics, we insult yours.

[OOC: I personally took Illior's as a joke, but IMO, given Nova's conduct on IRC, its quite obvious his was just an attempt at flamebait/veiled insult. That said, I personally find the other posts to be perfectly fine, so let's carry on the media war :D

Post soon.]

OOC: lol, media war]

THE
SPECTATOR
APOC RETURNS TO HAIL OF GHOLGOTHAN PRESS PROPAGANDA

Two days ago the reformation of the Alliance for Preservation of Civilisation, or the 'Preservation Society' as it has become known in Questers, sparked fury and spite from Gholgothan nations, who in typical fashion, assumed the worst and responded in a similar fashion. The state-controlled or influenced press of various Gothic nations began their vicious propaganda campaign shortly after, disseminating lies and slander against the honourable nations of the Preservation Society. It seems that, although APOC has made no message of harmful intent towards Gholgoth and has not even touched upon the minor regional alliance in any single State Announcement, the Gothic Governments felt it neccessary to, once again, poke their noses where it is unwanted. It appears that no amount of bloodshed will appease the Warlords of Gholgoth, for when they see something they take a disliking to their response is violent, predictable, but most of all quite worrying. If nations such as Crimmond threaten imperialism against peace loving capitalist nations such as Vetalia with threats as cruel as '[level] more of your cities and [strip] your lands of resources', what choice does APOC have but to arm itself to defend the Civilisation it has claimed to protect?

Most saddening is the propaganda barrage of a media response from Gothic nations that feel threatened by APOC's non-hostile intent towards their region. Firstly, the Hudson Herald, from a nation with the economic and military influence of a doormouse claim APOC's "irrelevence", despite the fact that two APOC nations have bases in strike range of their capital and likely have enough nuclear, biological and chemical weapons on those bases to lay waste to Prestonia before a response can even be suggested. Even their leader, quoted by their own press, shows his lack of charisma and maturity by naming APOC a "circle-jerk". Furthermore, the Freek Racine Journal Times claims that Questaria 'lost face' during the Four Day War, where a Questarian Battle Fleet sailed straight through Gholgoth without being challenged once by the Freek Navy (who quickly retreated for the duration of the war and didn't once attempt to engage the Questarian fleet) and was met by a two hundred mile long minefield and an inexhaustible supply of standoff shore launched weapons. Despite this, our Navy pushed through the minefield and did not even lose a single capital vessel. Not once did the Freeks show themselves in honourable combat against the Royal Navy, and so, if Questaria lost face during that conflict, it should be said that Automagfreek had none in the first place.

In fact, during the entire conflict, Questarian and allied forces were routinely victorious in the Sea, Land and Air. NATO naval groups rallied in the Strobovian Strait, to find their multinational task force from Cravan, Allanea, Azazia and Midlonia to crumple beneath the Royal Navy. Over London itself, despite after wreaking terrible havoc on the first day of the war, Allanea did not challenge Questarian air and artillery superiority, which wreaked havoc onto Allanean land forces. Kregaia, for all their ego, are incapable of resisting to provoke their opposition writers. Inventing words like 'neo-colonial' and throwing around the heathen-card, their "Korronis Herald" too repeats the claim that Questaria was 'crushed'. This begs an interesting question: Just how many Gholgothic nations are so military successful that they can declare APOC to be 'inconsequential'? Who precisely, in Gholgoth, with the exception of Aequatio, Automagfreek, Whyatica and Crimmond has successfully fought a military conflict? Even the previously unknown Novacomian paper the "Technopolis Times" claims Clandonian "incompetence" while there is no single sentence in their propaganda report that doesn't have a grammatical error of some form.

In response to APOC, Automagfreek began the shipping of troops into Central Prestonia. For such an apparently powerful nation, it appears odd that two small bases with not even a division of troops from just three nations warrants the ultimate paranoia from Gholgoth nations that they are about to be attacked. Aequatio maintains three bases in Questers - is APOC crying about these? Is Continentia? Is our Empire? No, because unlike Gothic politicans - who use terms like "don't give a shit" and "circle-jerk", APOC and Questarian diplomats and our nations in general have grown up. The Gothic press is wrong. Gholgoth is the force that does not matter here. They are the sixty year unemployed drug addict who still thinks he's doing his GCSEs. APOC is the midlife lawyer, the banker, the accountant or the rocket engineer who looks down with disdain at the older, yet considerably less mature and influential Gholgoth.

God Save the King.

OOC: Actually not a single ounce of one of my posts has been Flamebait, I have no intention of getting into an OOC Bitching fest, everything I have posted is by a journalist who is a particular firebrand in the past, whom I have resserected for this pretty enjoyable RP, none of it is an insult because it's based on IC viewpoints, in what is turning into more a propoganda war, as Prae himself has said, his paper is pro government, I am suprised somehow that somebody hasn't tried to spin that all of our papers falsely that all our papers are government owned, and the tone ICly isn't off OOC events, it represents a distinct chilling in opinions especially in the face of the situation on the ground in C_P.

Say it's Flamebait as you will, I tell you it is not after all we're all mature enough to not sink to flamebait.

United Trailer Parks International Mass Communique

Dear Leadership of the APOC,

In light of the recent declining of our admittance into your halls, the Homeowners association has issued the following statment:

As of this day the United Trailer Parks will be placing its alligances with the forces of Gholgoth, for any and all conflicts, declared wars, or covert operations that may be used against any and all APOC members and/or supporters. Futhermore, Trade is hence forth ceased with any APOC member or supporter and all trade good that may be within the nation of United Trailer parks will be siezed and sold without proper authority or permissions for the sole profit of the United Trailer parks.

In light of this announcment we humblly(SP) Offer our alligances to the Gholgoth Regional powers, if they so choose to accept us.

signed,
Azuala The head Associate
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/hobbeeb/azuala.png

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[OOC: I don't think you took a double or indeed triple take when you read my post, Automagfreek, because you have missed the point entirely. Whether or not there is IC animosity is neither here nor there - clearly from my own post it is apparent that Praetonia has dislike for Gholgoth as well so I hardly see how you could have come to the conclusion that that was my complaint (the fact that I did not at any point complain about it should also have rung bells). Not that that stopped the amateur psychoanalysis from being trotted out (no, the fact that I want to stop people taking the RP personally does not imply that I am myself taking personally), and the loaded "with us or against us" false dilemma:

"Either you've seriously lost faith in peoples ability to seperate OOC and IC, or you're simply not aware that the Gholgoth players are seasoned enough RPers to be able to be aggressive and insulting ICly and not take things personally." No, I do not believe that the Gholgoth players (or the APOC players, at whom my post was equally directed, nor indeed myself) are infallible, but nor do I believe that they have acted consciously in bad faith - if I did, why would I bother to appeal to the better judgement of the posters on the thread?

Indeed, my concerns are exactly the same as yours - I quote from ten or so posts up:

OOC: Guys, I'm extremely dissappointed in a lot of you. Since when do newspaper reports constitute government sentiment? Some of you seem to be blurring the OOC and IC lines here, and really, I would have expected better. There have only been 5 official government responses from 5 different Gothic nations (1 each, for those that don't catch on so fast), every other post has been a newspaper article, and yet some of you are blurring the line and assuming that we're issuing statement after statement on the matter.

Poor form.
[The emphasis is my own]

We have both stated that IC and OOC lines are being blurred, and that this should stop - I see no reason why we cannot agree on this point, without having to recourse to making essentially arbitrary judgements on the other's personal motivations, or implying that if they do not agree, that they are necessarily conducting a personal attack and do not respect the other as an RPer.

Media wars can be fun, but for them to work, we have to operate in a suitably detatched fashion. Of course no one expects Gholgoth to talk like British aristocracy, but "APOC "seems to exist only for the collective circle-jerking of it's members,"" are simply idiotic coming from a President, and do not even fit in with the style of past statements by the more ostentatiously feudal Gholgoth leaders. Similarly, the level of bias, invention and outright self-contradiction that has been going on in the newspaper articles on this thread (not on one side particularly more than the other) simply do not strike me, as a reasonable person, as believable - in fact, they remind me much more of an argument on the IRC channel. That is why I suspect that OOC feeling are coming into play, be it consciously or not, and there can surely be no objection to our being more self-critical and disciplined to keep this, as much as possible, to a minimum.

It will be a shame if your next post also takes the form of an attack - you are a reasonable and likeable person, and a very good RPer, so I really do not see your objection to my proposals.

EDIT: I don't think Nova was flamebaiting.]

OOC: Well, you just did what you accused me of, missing the point (which I didn't, I understand your point perfectly and object to what you feel).

The OOC portion you quoted from a previous post of mine was concerning people taking newspaper articles as government statements. Simply because there are a flurry of journalistic reports (however biased they may be) that come out from Gothic newspapers doesn't mean that there is "mass panic" in Gholgoth from our leaders. Truth be told there have only been 5 official government statements from 5 individual leaders from different countries, and 8 newspaper articles have been posted. I was seriously starting to see in peoples posts that they were mistaking these articles for official government statements, and such phrases as "Ghogoth leaders say they don't care about APOC but are continuing to talk about it" (to that effect, not an exact quote) are clear evidence that the line is being blurred.

Your "Panic Grips Gholgoth" title struck me as clearly blurring the line, because at the time there were only 4 statements from 4 individuals issued, as well as 1 news article. The opening line in your post "Gothic governments began issuing statements almost immediately after the news of APOC's reformation reached Gholgoth's shores in what the Government is describing as an "irrational panic"." strikes me as metagaming, because you're making it seem like unless we wait a real life week to comment on something, we're immediately wetting out pants and screaming objection into the night.

I have no problem with a media war, but look at it within the context. Our leaders issued a few statements and haven't said anything further about APOC, it's our media who's continuing to speak of it. And honestly, I think everyone is getting a little carried away dissing what other people write in the news. Would anyone really care what's printed in a local newspaper with only a few thousand subscriptions? Would journalists seriously spend time writing a rebuttal article over something in the "Backwater Times"?

I myself don't plan on posting anything, media or otheriwse, until something else happens that's worthy of attention.

Extract of Article written by Resident Columnist Danny Porter of the New Theeb Echo:

"Stand Firm"

By Danny Porter

The issue of the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization is set to become the Tribal Council and the Chieftains first major test in its capacity of handling international affairs and leading the nation through hostile times. With the reformation of APOC the balance of power that had stabilised so calmly in the aftermath of the 4 Days War is now once again very volatile and very unstable with potential sparks and flash points to war and conflict scattered far and wide in every corner of the globe.

With powerful nations banding together in groups one must look to history to see where the current path leads. On the eve of the second world war groups of nations formed large alliances and it ended in conflict that cost the lives of millions and Years later during APOC’s first incarnation millions more died through a reign of terror and tyranny. Whilst it is merely the opinion of this author it seems APOC is not “a New World Order, one to create peace, liberty, freedom and free trade." As one Clandonian Journalist put it but a New World Order that comes across as Nazi and Tyrannical one dedicated to furthering the strategic and financial interests of its members, a New World Order that throws such words as liberty and freedom without understanding its true meaning. Again looking back at history one asks how the nations of APOC justify standing for Freedom and Liberty when the Doomani have butchered and oppressed so many nations not to mention enslaved so many innocent people? When the Clandonians in their wisdom tried and failed to invade the Vetakan Dominion all those years ago?

With the Vetakan population polarised on the issue of APOC, one waits to hear the voices of the Chieftain and his Parceltongues on the issue. With successive Vetakan Republic Governments following a Pro Questarian Stance and with the first Tribal Council following the same line, one waits to see whether Vetaka will again follow in King Alexandria’s stride or if the nation will follow its traditional ethical stance and break ranks of the Questarian Commonwealth and stand firm in the face of the two faced APOC?

With political commentators and the population split on the issue, some of the more extreme Sociologists from New Theeb to New Helgan Universities have warned of turbulent political times for the Vetakan Chiefdom both at home and abroad.

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Official Statement of the Tribal Chiefdom of Vetaka:

The Tribal Chiefdom of Vetaka on behalf of the United Federation of Allied Nations wishes to make it clear that whilst Vetaka and the Federation is a relatively small Alliance in comparison to other groups if asked to do so by the Government of Central Prestonia. Vetaka alone if required will deploy Force to protect the Prestonian Civilian Population from Harm.

This statement should not be seen as threatening by the majority of nations especially our Questarian Brethren. It should be seen as a warning however to that of Clandonia Prime. Prime Minister Sir David Sistilin is a man without honour a man that called for the Genocide of my people because we stood against him. Need I remind the world that he is a man whom also talks about Honour and Freedom I will not be drawn into a debate but what about my peoples freedom all those years ago David?

The Clandonians attempted to invade Vetaka supposedly alone even though their is evidence and intelligence to the contrary that they had help from their Praetonian Masters. The Clandonians have tried for years to pick fights for with nations such as the Soviets and for years they have failed. Clandonia Prime is a nation without honour and without integrity.

I accept that Prestonia must abide by its agreements with Questers, Praetonia and Gholgoth but as per my Oath to Central Prestonia's People I will do what I can to protect them from harm.

Yours

Quicksilver

Protector of the Phoenix and the People
Honoured Chief of the Tribe of the White Phoenix
Tribal Chieftain of the Tribal Chiefdom of Vetaka
Supreme Commanding Adrmiral in Chief of the Vetakan Defence Force


OOC: For Referance my current Government is based on what I feel a North American Indian Tribe would be like if it where given rulership of a nation in the modern day. Also for referance during the Vetakan-Clandonian War, Clandonia called for the Genocide of the Tribe that currently rules Vetaka as such my current political leadership is very very Anti Clandonia to the point of Extremism.

APOC refounded? Government to side with new Gholgothian allies?
Imperator refuses to side with ex-allies!

The Battleford Metro Times.

News from sources deep within the government have confirmed suspicions that Izistan will not side with the newly refounded APOC, siding instead with local Gholgoth nations. The Office of the Imperator did not return our questions.

University students at Laurier-Morgan University in Battleford held a peaceful protest on Broadway demanding that the Imperator not side with APOC. It dispersed after several hours. Internal Security released a statement praising them for their compliance with local protest laws.

The Synod of the Izistani Reformed Orthdox Church and the United Cather Church issued proclamations calling for the end of APOC/Gholgoth tension. The Reformed Orthodox Synod also called upon all people of faith in APOC to "reject the unchristian teachings of the Doomani" and encouraged conversion to Izistan Reformed Orthodox.

Omar Pace steps to the podium, holding a stack of paperwork. "Well... the media of the world is certainly doing it's level best to provide the rest of us with toilet paper. Too bad it's already got shit all over it when it arrives." He sets the stack on the podium and looks at the camera. "There's so much shit flying around that I find it hard to sift through and find out whether APOC is hostile towards Gholgoth or not. Frankly, I really am growing tired of it."

I will say this once and only once... to all the media, governments and whoever else cares to listen... Gholgoth has been doing nothing but sitting on it's collective ass for a long time. That's what we do, until someone with more balls than brains comes along and starts chucking rocks at us. Then we smash them and afterwards go back to being dormant. A dormant Gholgoth is a good Gholgoth. An angry Gholgoth is a destructive Gholgoth."

Omar pushes the papers off the podium. "Now I'm starting to get just a tad annoyed with all this back and forth that gets no one anywhere... so I'll state it simply, using one of those handy-dandy traffic information signs."

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"Do what it says and we'll stay nice and peaceful. The choice is always yours, of course." At that, Pace stepped back and left the room just as the feed cut out.

[OOC: The OOC portion you quoted from a previous post of mine was concerning people taking newspaper articles as government statements. Simply because there are a flurry of journalistic reports (however biased they may be) that come out from Gothic newspapers doesn't mean that there is "mass panic" in Gholgoth from our leaders. Truth be told there have only been 5 official government statements from 5 individual leaders from different countries, and 8 newspaper articles have been posted. I was seriously starting to see in peoples posts that they were mistaking these articles for official government statements, and such phrases as "Ghogoth leaders say they don't care about APOC but are continuing to talk about it" (to that effect, not an exact quote) are clear evidence that the line is being blurred.

Your "Panic Grips Gholgoth" title struck me as clearly blurring the line, because at the time there were only 4 statements from 4 individuals issued, as well as 1 news article. The opening line in your post "Gothic governments began issuing statements almost immediately after the news of APOC's reformation reached Gholgoth's shores in what the Government is describing as an "irrational panic"." strikes me as metagaming, because you're making it seem like unless we wait a real life week to comment on something, we're immediately wetting out pants and screaming objection into the night.
Ah, I get it now - you agree that the OOC line is being blurred, just that you think I am the only one guilty of it, rather than it being a general occurance? What was the last thing 5 Gholgoth members issued statements about in the course of a day? If you can demonstrate it really is a regular occurance then you have a point... but I don't think it is. In any case, it was a paraphrasing of a quote from the PM, not a headline the newspaper invented, and the PM can be as biased as he likes. If you object to that, I hardly see how you can defend anything on this thread.

I have no problem with a media war, but look at it within the context. Our leaders issued a few statements and haven't said anything further about APOC, it's our media who's continuing to speak of it. And honestly, I think everyone is getting a little carried away dissing what other people write in the news. Would anyone really care what's printed in a local newspaper with only a few thousand subscriptions? Would journalists seriously spend time writing a rebuttal article over something in the "Backwater Times"?
I largely agree with this, but it's no reason not to put effort into realism. NS has seen enough poorly done media threads already.]

[OOC:
Ah, I get it now - you agree that the OOC line is being blurred, just that you think I am the only one guilty of it, rather than it being a general occurance? What was the last thing 5 Gholgoth members issued statements about in the course of a day? If you can demonstrate it really is a regular occurance then you have a point... but I don't think it is. In any case, it was a paraphrasing of a quote from the PM, not a headline the newspaper invented, and the PM can be as biased as he likes. If you object to that, I hardly see how you can defend anything on this thread.


OOC: Cute, but again, incorrect. I'm not attacking you, in fact I never stated that you were the only one guilty of what's going on, you invented that in your head. The first paragraph in my last OOC post was addressed to those on the APOC side who are taking what our journalists are saying as government truth. I was merely pointing out your shortcomings in the second paragraph, because for as vocal as you're being you yourself are as guilty as everyone else. Keyword there, everyone else.

And if I recall, the NATO/QC war saw a ton of Gothic posting off the bat, but at this point in time Gholgoth has never been more active. Yesterday we had about half the region in our IRC, and another quarter was logged into AIM.

OOC: Prae, for starters I think I'm safe in ignoring your first few points, because you didn't mention me.

Firstly, as to your point about bias. I understand your government is biased, in other words, that it agrees with itself. However, the tone of the 'Herald' article was unmistakable: by devoting about nine-tenths of its length to discussing the 'panic' (using the words of the government, true, but conveying the same point despite the quotation marks) in Gholgoth, the so-called 'de-facto collapse' of NATO, and other such subjects, it accomplishes the goal of attacking Gholgoth. Furthermore, it might be argued that your newspaper is simply reporting what the government has said: after all, the 'Herald' is technically only quoting officials, and not blatantly stating the government's ideas...but, again, by devoting practically the entire article to relaying the views of the government and slipping in a tiny blurb that was only half about opposition to APOC within Praetonia (are there no protesters in your nation at all?) your newspaper serves the purpose of conveying the will of the government to the people in a more trustworthy form (namely, a theoretically independent media).

As for opposition newspapers, nobody expects you to write three articles on the same event...however, I can't recall (granted, this is from memory, not from research) an instance where you did not write as the 'Herald' or, failing that, endorse the government's position through whatever paper you were writing as. You yourself state that the paper endorses the government: all well and good, but if one has never written as an opposing paper, you can understand, I hope, why your media comes off as extremely biased, if not corrupt, indeed.

It doesn't even require an opposition paper, simply an accurate one. Despite what has been pointed out, APOC is most definitely setting itself up in opposition to Gholgoth (and frankly, pretending this is not the case is a frank lie, transparent to any remotely-informed person. Since the liberal republics/constitutional monarchies/parliamentary democracies, whatever you are, of Questers and Praetonia should contain many such people, to print such a lie would result in a catastrophic loss of credibility), and yet, the entirety of your nations seem rather eager to come to grips with (arguably, I suppose) the most powerful assembly of nations in history. Nobody in these nations seems to remember the outcome of the last war, and despite the IC propaganda being thrown around, the fact is that Gholgoth won it. Furthermore, even if APOC were more powerful than Gholgoth, it would hardly be eager to fight an alliance so near it in strength, which would cost trillions and kill millions, more than likely; similar to how America is hardly foaming at the mouth to conquer China, or vice versa. And yet, despite all this, there are no reports of riots; no reports of protests; no reports of speeches in Parliament denouncing APOC as warmongering or needlessly provocative, and one wonders what the intelligent people in your nation think of all this. In liberal societies such as yours, they could not possibly all agree with the government, no matter how patriotic you think the England of 1900 was, and yet they seem to be doing nothing. Any IC realism would include their protesting, and any accurate newspaper would have to print news of such a thing, even if it was criticized. To omit such news entirely is something that a paper of the scale of the 'The Kingston Herald' would never make.

I'm going to ignore the bit about personal attacks because I haven't done such a thing: if anything, the article I wrote borders on unrealistically polite ICly. Kregaians do not appreciate heathens, especially those in direct opposition to their government.

Finally, as has been pointed out, this is NOT an official exchange. The Imperium made its position quite clear with an official condemnation and that was that. The op/ed piece that I posted later was hardly official, although it was in line with the government; this is because, unlike Praetonia, the Kregaian Empire makes no claim whatsoever to a free press. A paper as large as the 'Korronis Herald' cannot afford to break with the government, not only because the great majority of readers would be very displeased, but because the Imperium itself would then either have to force it back into line or destroy it utterly, either legally or by using proxies. So while your newspaper, realistically, must have a responsibility to print news of the protests surely going on in your liberal nation, in Kregaia, attending such protests could result in anything from a slap on the wrist to an agonizing death, and those who disagree with the Imperium (they do exist, especially among college faculty and such) largely keep their mouths shut and lay low; the ones among them inclined to protest volubly are either locked away or six feet under.

But if it were an official exchange, while insults might or might not be particularly appropriate (depending on the government), they would be entirely realistic, as AMF points out. He, for example, has a long history of writing posts as the foul-mouthed Minister Hartman, who curses when he feels it will achieve his goals. Those insults do not indicate that anyone is incapable of carrying on intelligent RPing. I don't regard this thread as intolerably unrealistic or insulting, or I wouldn't post in it.

Oh, and finally, Questers: your paper may simply be ignorant on this point, but if (as, excuse me, I suspect) you're pointing out your own views here, you would be dead wrong in suggesting the Imperium has never fought a successful conflict. You may recall that Kregaian forces defeated Czardas utterly in the Czardaian War; also, while the war in Groznyj is still going on OOCly, it took place before my IC present-time, and so far I have routed the enemy forces I have encountered and won every engagement; finally, while the war with Doom is pretty much inconclusive, and I'm still trying to find a way to realistically let it drop from an IC point of view, I wasn't being defeated (and in fairness, he certainly wasn't, either).

[OOC: Erm... I quite often RP opposition to the Government's actions, but just not this time, because there are some things pretty much all of your country agree on. However, there will be some student riots and such...

That said, I did not know that (I'm not sure if you know, but I'm SURE the Czardas war was retconned), but I don't think it matters with The Spectator.

I don't know if you have Tabloids in the US, and if you don't (or if they're not popular), then that would explain the lack of understanding amongst you guys as to the sort of newspapers that can be published. By Tabloid, I don't mean the size of the newspaper print, but the type of content. Tabloids are generally extremely populist.

The Sun for example, has printed headlines such as "TELL TONY HE'S RIGHT", "GAME OVER: Blair tells Saddam his time is up", "UNITED WE STAND: Britain and US defy wobblers on Iraq", and these are some of the tamer ones.

You might be surprised, but even intellectually written newspapers can have extremist points of view - example here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:The_Spect.jpg).

Alternatively, Praetonia might prefer writing The Herald because RPing media that supports the Government is a nice way of making a quasi-Government statement, because the media is more interesting to write and read than a load of Government statements, and the media can generally provide qualitative opinions, such as the ones you guys have fired at me about 4 day war. I find it highly unlikely that a Government would release something like that.

Also, Warmaster, when was the last time you RPed any dissent in your country? dictatorships (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2_EKx2KZ9A) have (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989) dissent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law_in_Poland) too (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2000/10/17/wzim17.xml), you (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Anfal_campaign#Violation_of_human_rights) know (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Czechoslovakia_%281968%29).

How do I join?

This could be beneficial to my long-suffering people.

OOC: Questers, I'm glad to hear you RP opposition, and I'm glad you will do so for this. That's realistic. To be honest, I was pretty much directing that particular point at Prae, but the more realism, the better. As for the war record, happy to set the record straight; and while the LIBERATION of Czardas was retconned (and rightly, I admit I acted like a fucking idiot), the initial invasion was not.

We do have tabloids here, but most of them are devoted to explaining why, exactly, Osama bin Laden's latest tape was made by aliens, or how Nostradamus's prophecies predict the Republicans will win the next election. But one can hardly compare such things to a serious newspaper such as 'The Kingston Herald'.

I'm not going to argue with you about the Four Day War (out of curiosity, why does everyone use '4' as opposed to 'Four'?); we disagree, I know I won't change your mind, and IMO the facts speak for themselves.

Finally, making a newspaper article, even an op/ed, does NOT replace a government statement, because using a newspaper to speak for your government is completely unrealistic. I agree that it can more entertaining, but it isn't more realistic, and that's the priority.

EDIT: I see you've added a bit here. I'd be glad to answer. The last time I RP'd dissent was last summer, when my nation concluded a spectacularly bloody war of succession with the most horrific battle in history, killing off a significant percentage of the Loyalists, Generians, and rebels involved, as well as laying waste to the capital. That should satisfy your curiosity. But smaller-scale dissents do happen; I just don't take the time to post a thread about a local priest adopting unorthodox beliefs or a factory worker secretly practicing Judaism, because not only would such stories be insignificant, they would end abruptly. One can spread heresy (and political dissent amounts to heresy) to a degree, but if the authorities find out, you are fucked. I need hardly add that the Imperium invests a great deal of effort in uprooting heresy, and besides, a population as thoroughly indoctrinated as the Kregaians largely police themselves: telling your wife you're considering conversion to Hinduism will usually result in her reporting you. So most potential dissenters know enough to keep to themselves. I might add that turning the spotlight on me simply because I RP a tyranny would be unproductive because I run things in a rather similar fashion to Doomingsland, your fellow APOC-ite. If you ask me the question, you might as well ask him, and both of us have a satisfactory answer.

Drasgard Times

APOC and total propaganda war
Article by: Juha Poro

Like most of my readers have probably heard, recently Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization (APOC) was reformed. Its most notable members are Doomingsland, Praetonia, Questers and ZMI. Currently it has 13 members but considering that alliance is rather young that may easily rise soon. Realistically speaking APOC is clearly very strong military force, although it still needs to be seen if it will actualy hold together through time. Its name, of course, is rather interesting. Especially funny is how Kampfers, which was long time high ranking member of UFAN, is now “protecting civilization” with Doomani slave traders. But what makes whole event really interesting is international reaction.

Official reactions have been rather ordinary, some Gholgothian powers, like Automagfreek and Kregaia have made rather negative statements about APOC, as expected, because many see APOC as counterbalance for Gholgoth/NATO block. Only from Crimmond came rather comical response, as General Omar Pace openly admitted to reporter, who he threatened to arrest, that he had no idea about such alliance. As Crimmond seems to be primitive dictatorship and police state I would suggest Mr. Pace to use “tools” avaible for him, and brutally(Freekish style) execute higher escelon of his intelligence service for failing to inform him in time. Although it is also possible that problem lies in Mr. Pace himself, in his retardation to be more specific. For good laughs I suggest all my readers who can find it, to read Zukaarian satirical newspaper The Cake.

Finally, among other official statements, I would had almost forgot it due irrelevance, is Prestonia. I must admit that the fact, that Prestonia was admitted to Gholgoth is still total mystery for me. Considering that Prestonia has very limited military capabilities, and the fact that it has Praetonian bases in its territory, I am still not sure is it some kind of attempt to create new Freekish colony, or Gholgothians just want a regional bordello. Those weak Prestonians, are now also speaking tough, especially their president comrade Aaron Preston. I can understand how children became head of state in monarchies, but even then there is usually some kind of regent. So that how someone who speaks like ten year old became president in supposedly democratic nation, is still confusing me, although readers who read my article about Wolfenhallen “democracy” know how things are with “democracy” in UFAN. Still, I am confident that in case of open conflict Prestonia would completely rely on their new allies, or end up same way as Kahanistan in the 4 Day War.

Real fun is in international “media war” as I would describe it. In their heated attempts to ridicule their opponents, participants also seem to be trying to demonstrate their own retardation. Firstly, from APOC side, Praetonia claims to be real capitalist nation with high freedoms, still for some reason Praetonian newspaper The Herald describes situation exactly like I would expect from some random undeveloped dictatorship state newspaper. From Gholgoth Kregaia has managed to prove that we are dealing with “1984” style police state with extremely efficient propaganda machine. I mean seriously, Kreigaia condemned APOC, and in two days subscriptions for Praetonian newspaper The Herald fall 95%? And that happened before The Herald made its ridiculously aggressive statement about “panic in Gholgoth”. Considering how primitive average Kregaian seem to be, person who’s thinking patterns are not guided by the government must be real rarity there. From that we can conclude that literacy is probably also rarity, although their government probably falsifies such statistics.

Throwing ball back on APOC side, some remember how questarian propaganda service failed to live up with expecations during the Four Day War. Well, it clearly has rised, atleast in newspaper front, for example The Spectator offers good old propaganda, especially well fit for larger uneducated masses. Another new trend is to pretend that APOC does not matter at all. In that field Prestonians were among the first, internet poll by The Hudson Herald concluded that 73% people see APOC, which members have bases in Prestonia, as "irrelevant". Obviously I am not going to buy it, those are Prestonians after all, even their President fails in acting tough. More likely scenario is that, for example, few Aequatians did set up some spammbots to vote at poll, and Prestonians were too incompetent to realize it. Claims about APOC irrelevance have also came from other Gholgothian media. Well, it does not look that bad, improvized polls in Whyatican coffee stores are not really accurate indicators, and I also doubt that majority of Illorians are dumb enough to consider APOC a Zukaarian sexual disease.

Most serious level of idiocy comes suprisingly from Siriusa, which is unaffiliated in current confrontation. Although after Prestonia joining Gholgoth I wouldn’t be suprized if even Cazelia would be accepted there. Its rather amusing that Siriusians accuse others in acting like children, then 90% of Siriusians did not know what APOC is. Seriously, do they all live in caves? Or are too poor to buy even simple newspaper? You know people, education is not so bad thing. Even here in Olmedreca, in country that most foreigners would describe as “isolationist”, and there only official statement about APOC was “we are following development of the situation” by some low level official, still majority of people have seen from news what APOC is. Siriusia really is just terribly primitive.

In conclusion even as I am writing this article media war continues. I believe that I was too harsh towards Mr. Pace from Crimmond. His just made statement, which I would quote here in full sentence, describes situation extremely accurately: “Well, the media of the world is certainly doing it's level best to provide the rest of us with toilet paper. Too bad it's already got shit all over it when it arrives.”

[OOC: as always, that newspaper article is not official position of Olmedreca]

OOC: Cute, but again, incorrect. I'm not attacking you, in fact I never stated that you were the only one guilty of what's going on, you invented that in your head.
My post was the only one you attacked.

The first paragraph in my last OOC post was addressed to those on the APOC side who are taking what our journalists are saying as government truth. I was merely pointing out your shortcomings in the second paragraph, because for as vocal as you're being you yourself are as guilty as everyone else. Keyword there, everyone else.

And if I recall, the NATO/QC war saw a ton of Gothic posting off the bat, but at this point in time Gholgoth has never been more active. Yesterday we had about half the region in our IRC, and another quarter was logged into AIM.
While you assert that it was a shortcoming, you havent demonstrated that that at all - you are saying that it was unreasonable for it to report a politician saying that Gholgoth was panicking because Gholgoth made "only" 5 government statements on the matter, even though you admit that the last time Gholgoth produced similar amounts of statements on an issue was at the start of a world war? I don't find that particularly convincing. I'm open to substantiated criticism, but I don't think that's an example of it. A better example might be the paper describing Novacom as "Bolshevik," which was neither a quote nor technically true, but I don't think the bulk of the post was unreasonable - indeed, I put in a certain amount of thought at the time to try to make it reasonable.

Firstly, as to your point about bias. I understand your government is biased, in other words, that it agrees with itself. However, the tone of the 'Herald' article was unmistakable: by devoting about nine-tenths of its length to discussing the 'panic' (using the words of the government, true, but conveying the same point despite the quotation marks) in Gholgoth, the so-called 'de-facto collapse' of NATO, and other such subjects, it accomplishes the goal of attacking Gholgoth.
The Herald is biased, just like every other paper in Praetonia - I explained all that in the original post.

As for opposition newspapers, nobody expects you to write three articles on the same event...however, I can't recall (granted, this is from memory, not from research) an instance where you did not write as the 'Herald' or, failing that, endorse the government's position through whatever paper you were writing as. You yourself state that the paper endorses the government: all well and good, but if one has never written as an opposing paper, you can understand, I hope, why your media comes off as extremely biased, if not corrupt, indeed.
I also explained this in the post - my objective in writing RP papers is not to be a model of objective journalism, but to provide a useful narrative on what is going through the heads of the people who make up and support the government position.

are there no protesters in your nation at all?
No. How many protestors were there in London about the Triple Entente?

Despite what has been pointed out, APOC is most definitely setting itself up in opposition to Gholgoth (and frankly, pretending this is not the case is a frank lie, transparent to any remotely-informed person. Since the liberal republics/constitutional monarchies/parliamentary democracies, whatever you are, of Questers and Praetonia should contain many such people, to print such a lie would result in a catastrophic loss of credibility), and yet, the entirety of your nations seem rather eager to come to grips with (arguably, I suppose) the most powerful assembly of nations in history.
APOC has made no moves towards "coming to grips" with Gholgoth (I assume that's what you mean), aside from Clan moving troops in to defend his own base. No one in HMG is proposing war with Gholgoth - in fact, the Prime Minister specifically said that APOC had not changed HMG's policy on Gholgoth. If it was proposing war, then yes there would be serious opposition.

So while your newspaper, realistically, must have a responsibility to print news of the protests surely going on in your liberal nation
The Kingston Herald has no responsibility except to its shareholders. It could publish that 1+1=5 and not be breaking the law. That is what a free press means.

EDIT: Btw since this OOC stuff has gone on a lot longer than I originally intended, could we get ti split into a seperate thread?

Hmm, why does this sound V.oppressive (APOC I mean)? Not that that's a bad thing...

OOC:

Jesus Christ, keep the OOC shit out of here. THANK YOU.

My post was the only one you attacked.

The Herald is biased, just like every other paper in Praetonia - I explained all that in the original post.


I also explained this in the post - my objective in writing RP papers is not to be a model of objective journalism, but to provide a useful narrative on what is going through the heads of the people who make up and support the government position.


No. How many protestors were there in London about the Triple Entente?


APOC has made no moves towards "coming to grips" with Gholgoth (I assume that's what you mean), aside from Clan moving troops in to defend his own base. No one in HMG is proposing war with Gholgoth - in fact, the Prime Minister specifically said that APOC had not changed HMG's policy on Gholgoth. If it was proposing war, then yes there would be serious opposition.


The Kingston Herald has no responsibility except to its shareholders. It could publish that 1+1=5 and not be breaking the law. That is what a free press means.

The point, as you may have discerned from the latter bits (which you almost entirely ignored), was that your newspaper is so biased as to be completely unrealistic. If the United States organized an alliance directly aimed at containing and countering China, countless people would riot and/or protest. To follow this particular metaphor, the New York Times (here representing 'The Kingston Herald') would not print news of such dissent. Such a scenario is ludicrous. Even in 1900's England, with a populace much less given to protest than the US, there would be significant enough protests that they would HAVE to be reported.

Which brings me to my next point. You cannot seriously believe that the legal responsibility and the practical responsibility of newspapers are the same. Yes, 'The Kingston Herald' can print that King George IV or Lord Azrael has never satisfied a woman; yes, they can print that uranium toothpaste is exceptionally healthy; yes, they can print that Jews carry numerous congenital diseases lethal to Gentiles. But that is, of course, utterly ludicrous for a paper that is profitable, widely distributed, and respected, and wishes to remain so. Yes, it has no responsibility except to its shareholders...but those shareholders expect reliable, reasonably unbiased, informative news. And omitting the protests that, realistically, should be going on in your nation is itself unrealistic enough to irritate those stockholders a great deal.

About people protesting, and the Entente metaphor: a bit flawed, because this is the sequel to a previous war. A better metaphor: if there had been a 'World War Zero' before WWI, during which London had been razed, Britain humiliated, and her economy ravaged, accompanied by the defeat of France and Russia, THEN we are brought to a realistic metaphorical portrayal of the present day (the Triple Alliance is, of course, Gholgoth, and the defeated Allies are Questers and her allies). And in that situation, I very much doubt the Allies would be willing to form another Entente (APOC). In short, as I've pointed out, your people should not be so supportive of your governments' provocative diplomacy when they have already suffered stinging defeats at Gothic hands.

As for coming to grips with Gholgoth, I believe I have already demonstrated (I certainly hope so) that APOC exists to counter Gholgoth. History teaches us that such alliances (a la the Triple Entente, intended to counter the Triple Alliance) can rarely perform such a function without 'coming to grips' militarily.

All in all, and I am NOT using this as an OOC barb to try to make myself feel superior, it looks to me that you simply quoted the passages you had an answer to, and ignored the rest, and the overall point along with it.

Puppet Leader of Vojvodina-Nihon announces reformation of RWC
by Sam Jones

In an entirely unexpected move today, Puppet Monarch Alistair I announced the reformation of the Right Wing Collective, a long-defunct but powerful alliance of nations dedicated to preserving socially and economically conservative policies, but criticised by many due to its inclusion of genocidal fascist states.

"The re-emergence of [the New Alliance Treaty Organisation], formerly one of our most powerful enemies, has indicated that there is an ever greater need for RWC to make its appearance upon the world stage," His Puppet Majesty said in a press conference. "It is time once again for right-wing governments to take a stand for national sovereignty and self-determination." Alistair went on to quote from the original RWC charter. "The people in our alliance have the right to do as they please in their domain. Who are YOU to judge about ones politics and/or policies? ... To some, this alliance may seem like an ultra right wing nazi paradise. I must remind you, this is not the case."

While the majority of nations formerly members of the Right Wing Collective and its successor alliances have long since departed the world stage, retreated into isolation, or changed their ways and allegiances, Alistair hopes to recruit a new and enthusiastic group of anti-communist and pro-sovereignty nations to his cause, provided that those nations are within elite circles of communications and trade in which Vojvodina-Nihon already participates.

Asked whether the recent reformation of the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilisation, another alliance at one point also opposed to NATO, had in any way affected his decision, Alistair I scoffed and waved a hand dismissively, "Balderdash and horsefeathers!" The sovereign on strings, however, did point out that the inclusion of several former RWC states in the newly reformed APOC, such as Doomingsland, make the possibilities of an alliance between the two reemerging alliances a greater possibility.

Among the most vocal critics of the refounding have been John Smith, a college professor. In a sarcastic letter to Alistair I, Mr. Smith stated in part, "Ah, here we are again. The days of reforming alliances. I suppose next week the Comintern will pop up again, GDODAD will reappear from the depths of the sea, and Metus or APTO will have to step in to resolve the crisis. I'm betting on a NWO victory!" In an interview, Mr. Smith said, "NATO and APOC are both relics of an age when cowboys-and-indians foreign policy dominated the world. Do we really need yet another reminder?"

The announcement comes as especially unexpected because Vojvodina-Nihon was never a member of the RWC.

"Stand with those who stand in the Light, and you shall see those in the Dark stand with you." -Ancient Vantanian Proverb

President Zaphod Beeblebrox was the President of the Free Republic of Vantanas. Had he been the President of any other country, this would have carried some aura of power and respect, but not in Vantanas. In Vantanas, the person who was the most likable was elected president to serve as the figurehead of the Free Republic, a symbolic figure with absolutely no power at all. Most of the time, the President just delivered news from the National Assembly on their acts, reforms, bans, and the lot. The rest of the time he looked really cool, showing up at parties, driving around in the best of sportscars, and the occasional personal crusade to fix this issue or that. However, occasionally, he had to give important speeches.

Now was one of those occasions, and he swaggered to the podium in an outrageous suit (http://www.suavecito.com/images/Suits/zoot_suit_blueshark.jpg) through the drizzling rain. Flashing a small as white as white, he pulled his hair back through his golden hair, before leading the assembled press, observers, politicians, and statesmen in the nation anthem, Champions, March! When the song was finished, made unique by his alternating breathtaking vocals or out of sync singing, the massive Vantanian flag behind him vanished like a curtain, revealing the symbol of the APOC. It was to this background that Zaphod Beeblebrox gave his speech:

"Being for the benifit of the Free Republic of Vantanas, Civilization, and the Free World, I hereby submit the Free Republic's membership application to the mercy of the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilzation. Through fighting vicious barbarians in the recent, and quite bloody, Vante-Kroandon War, we have found a new, deeper respect to the marvels of Civilization, and the need for its protection from foes like Gholgoth, the Kroandons, and any other foe that may rear its ugly head. You see, I personally fought in the Vante-Kroandon War, in the Colony of Spire, and it was there that I realized how opressed parts of the world are. Stifiling communists, socialists, and fascists control the governments of too many nations, and they have a single minded passion to destroy that which is greater than them, the Free World."

"We may not be the strongest of the Free World, or present ourselves as remarkable in anyway. But know this: In every Vantanians heart, even immigrants, is the will of a national patriot, and the strength of a fighter. We have been promoting civilization where ever we could, fighting the barbarian hordes of Kroando in the Vante-Kroandon War, liberating the imprisoned people of nations like Route1 in the Highway War, purging the Communist disease from our noble race in the Steelhammer Wars, winning our rights in the War of Sovereignty and the War of the Proletariat, and spreading the Light of Civilization to dark corners of the world by establishing colonies. My friends, though we unfortunately could do little to fight in the legendary Questo-Gholgothic War, known to the rest of the world as the Four Days War, we supported the Hegemon of the Free World, Questers, with immigrant-soldiers and funds. And this support did not wain after the end of the war either, with our government continuing to send a steady flow of investments and money into the Questarian economy."

"With all of these things in mind, I hope that the leadership of APOC agrees to let us into their hallowed ranks, so that when the time comes, Vantanian soldiers may spread themselves to the farflung corners of NationStates to fight for the greatest Civilization. Thank you, and good night!"

OOC: Buried in the Media War and OOC. A response eitherway is all I need.

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OOC: Karshkovia, we would request that you join our IRC channel and talk to us. A TG is on the way with the details.

OOC: Tried the other night but it was late, last night I was on a date so I'll try again tonight.

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The Republic of South Africa desires to gain entry into this noble Alliance and join in it's just cause. May the forces of tyranny and barbarism quake before the might of the combined forces of the APOC!


~State President Blair
Mr. James Grey, Foreign Ministry of the Republic

Tyrian Times
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ALLIANCE FOR THE PRESERVATION OF CIVILISATION FORMED - EXPERTS ASK, "WHAT CIVILISATION?"

BILLIONS OF HUMANS in several foreign countries today found themselves abruptly thrust into the arms of new comrades as the 'Alliance for the Preservation of Civilisation' was formally announced in a bluster of spin and false truths. Apparently the rebirth of an alliance of old, few appear to have heard of its previous incarnation.

Although there are numerous nations staking their honour (or lack thereof) with the APOC, only three are noteworthy - routinely referred to as the "Terrible Trio" by the infamously light-hearted Clan Leader of Zukatha, Klarr Viletooth. Doomingsland, Questers and Praetonia form the core membership of this new band, which promises "to maintain the common defence against barbarian powers, and to spread by all means possible the light of civilisation."

Humanthropologists at academic institutions across Tyria, however, are perplexed.

"These three nations, while sharing an absence of honour equally, exhibit entirely different cultures and traditions to each other," Vignar Wildfang, leading humanthropologist at Lion's Arch University, commented shortly after the announcement reached Charrian eyes. "While slight similarities may be drawn between the cultures and governments of Questers and Praetonia, for sure, we fail to see where Doomingsland would integrate. For all their bluster about 'barbarism', tis Doomingsland that fits such a label most aptly according to the Charrian definition of the term at least, and the others are not far behind them. Surely, their first target must be themselves?"

Wildfang's peer in Ascolonia College of Sciences, Jurr Mottleskin, also commented: "In my opinion, civilisation is just as deficient as honour in all three of those countries, and yet now they proclaim to be qualified to spread it? Could these three total opposites even agree on what constitutes 'civilisation'? An alliance of ideals, between opposites whom have previously gone to war over their differing ideals, seems destined to bring even more dishonour to all parties than already exists. It is scientific fact that humans simply lack the willpower necessary to coexist with such differences for long periods of time. More proof of that fact is sure to follow now."

Member nations of Gholgoth, the highly controversial human-dominated alliance which finds little support beyond the Council of Clans chambers, have already decided that APOC represents a direct challenge to their power bloc. Minister Hartman of Automagfreek stated in his own spin-littered announcement, "anyone who claims that APOC is not existing in order to form some kind of check against Gothic power is simply kidding themselves." This statement, and those like it, fuelled the more eloquent masters of spin in Praetonia to decide that this meant that "panic grips [the] Gholgoth regional alliance."

With both sides so seemingly clueless as to the others' intentions, and threats of war being arbitrarily thrown around at such an early stage, major Charr supremacist groups in Tyria are already calling for the dissolution of all ties to Gholgoth.

"We should not be involved with affairs that are so clearly the concerns of humans," leader of the inter-clan 'Charr Forever' extremist group, Haetrik Ripclaw, announced over the groups' private radio network. "They fight not for honour, but for greed. They lie. They cheat. They attack from behind. They are without honour, and we must leave them to their petty squabbles immediately! Support your race! Call for your Clan Leader to be de-elected NOW!"

Public interest in external affairs remains assuredly low, but opinions have flowed from all major political groups with the notable - and quite predicable - exception of the government itself. Indeed, this publication was forced into pressing the Council of Clans for a statement, and one was given.

"The United Clans of the Charr remains neutral on this matter," the mighty Bonfaaz Burntfur, so-called 'Protector of Honour', said late this afternoon. "We have no vested interest in the acts of any of these nations, and frankly believe this latest development to be short-lived at best anyway. They have no sense of honour and conduct themselves accordingly, and as such no honour may be gained on our part by waging battle against them. Nor does any manner of diplomatic contact exist between us. So far as the Clan Leaders are concerned, they may form and break alliances with whomever they so wish - so long as it is not us."

Suitably uninterested, the Council of Clans retains its recent policy of non-interference and informal isolationism in the face of massive human ignorance, thus restoring their honour in the eyes of many.

Ever entertaining, we also sought out the opinion of Clan Leader Viletooth, someone whom has become something of an informal columnist for our paper.

"I think it would be amusing if the UCC petitioned to join this so-called Alliance for the Preservation of Civilisation," he commented. "Surely, such an act would confound both sides. And they absolutely could not refuse our membership, lest they reveal that they have no real interest in civilisation at all. For, what campaign could ever hope to spread civilisation without Charrian guidance? Or, for that matter, Charrian ale?"

Drub Gorefang, the Clan Leader of Heerkak who has famously and fiercely opposed allegiance to Gholgoth since it first began, quickly responded to our request for a statement: "This is why we should avoid contact with humans, Gholgoth in particular. They make enemies without cause, have no respect for honour, and drag us into meaningless conflicts which surely displease the Great Gods of Fire. Clan Heerkak continues to oppose our association with them. The formation of APOC will show you why, in time, I am sure."

While it seems unlikely to us that APOC will survive the test of time, or that a battle with any meaning will emerge from its formation, one thing is certain - it has reawakened the age old argument that has occupied the Council of Clans and the general population for years: should Charr continue to interest themselves in the outside world?

Georgetown Times

Georgetown - At a minor policy speech before the Oceania Institute earlier this afternoon Foreign Secretary Gavin Astley addressed the reformation of the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilisation. Mr. Astley emphasised the need for a "constructive dialogue" between the alliance and NATO, each alliance host to states that fought on both sides of the NATO-Commonwealth War. Mr. Astley also asserted that such dialogue could be founded upon the "select shared values" between "specific states" amongst both alliances.

Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Deveraux refuted Mr. Astley's claims in a statement issued to the press. Ms. Deveraux cited the decision by the Government to promote discussion with APOC as "an action tantamount to surrendering to the warmongers and barbarians." Ms. Deveraux's statement rested upon the United Kingdom's involvement in the NATO-Commonwealth War, a participation that halted Commonwealth advances but at a great cost. Part of that cost includes the drop in the Prime Minister's approval rating, at a post-election low of 46% according to this paper's latest polls.

Several recent polls of Oceanians indicate that APOC resonates in the broad Oceanian consciousness with 60-70 percent of respondents recognising the name with fewer able to identify significant members or policies. More surprising, the same polls pointed to a fall in Oceanian recognition of NATO. While such recognition remains high, especially given the loss of life in the recent war, 10-15 percent were unable to identify with NATO.

Sniper Country Stands With Gholgoth Allies

John Philips today released a statement regarding the supposed threat of APOC against Gholgoth. In the statement, Philips stated that should the threat evolve into something greater than a media war, "necessary action will be taken by Sniper Country and our Gholgothan allies."

The media war, which has raged for several days now between newspapers and other media outlets throughout all nations involved, has been looked on with disdain by many in Sniper Country. While Sniper Country may be considered one of the more peace-loving nations in Gholgoth, threats against the region are not taken lightly by the Senate. Phillips was quoted as saying, "Damien Dreadfire knows our policy: You call, we haul." Whether this statement was with regard to the weight behind the Sniper Country name or militarily is not known.

With the media in a frenzy and no real actions taking place, things are being persued as normal today in the Senate. However, with the ever-present threat of war constantly looming over the Great Region of Gholgoth, one can only be wary of the days ahead.

[Gotta get to class. All I have time for right now. Hope it works.]

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Federal Assembly Votes "Yes" To Join APOC

The Federal Assembly today has voted "Yes" to enter APOC. A Coalition of Democrats and Socialist beat the Liberials and Christians by a majority vote of 334 of of 605. "APOC, has the Military might, and the ability to lead Kansiov into another stage of prosperity." commented Yuoki Gureski, MP for the Northern Territories, "maintaining a Civilized Kansiov must be a top priority, and who knows, under APOC the Prochnyian situation could get better." However on the other side of the table, MP Boris Yaksov said, "ever since the hostage Crisis, the Democrats have always argued about a more Hawkish Policy. But they forget what are the bad things a Hawkish policy brings, and joining Imperialistic APOC will worsen the situation. The Kansiovian Government is becoming Imperialistic, that is completely unwise."

The heated debates almost sparked off a fight within the Assembly, but the final vote will still count. An application to join APOC by the Kansiovian Government and Legislation. Yuri Shapliov, leader of the Christian Democrats noted, "a complete disgrace in Kansiovian History." It is unlikely that a referendum will be held for this matter, but the application to join APOC still stands.

Official Application from the Federal Kansiovian Republic
To The APOC

The Kansiovian Government has followed her constitution in regards with this matter, and would like to join APOC to fight uncivilized and unjust Anarchic societies that will hinder Kansiov Economically and Politically.

Signed,
Ruslan Baristiev, Minister of Foreign Affairs.

Official Communiqué

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To whom it may concern,

After long and careful consideration, the Realm of Cotland has reached the conclusion that its long-held stance of neutrality may pose a serious risk to the national security of the Realm now after the Realm has returned to the arena of international politics and has started to get its bearings again.

In light of this, the Realm of Cotland has resolved to commit itself to an alliance in the search for allies that may help the Realm if, God forbid, the Realm should find itself in need of assistance as a result of an assault from a foreign nation-state.

Therefore, the Realm of Cotland hereby formally seeks admittance to the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization. If admitted, the Realm pledges to fullfill its obligations as an alliance member to the best of its ability.

[signed]
Haakon VIII
King of Cotland