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OOC: See here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=546851) and here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547720&) for background information.

Twelve knots from Karshkovian Waters

Captain Jake Takashi stood on the port bridge wing of the Resolute (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13293024&postcount=233) class cruiser TCS Astute and surveyed the dense fog that surronded his ship. The Astute was moving slowly through the fog, Takashi thought still hadn't figured out how fog banks formed this far out to sea in these waters but he was sailor not a scientist. The ship's massive SPY-510 and SPS-506 radars were inactive, only her low powered SPS-180 navigation set was on and it only had an effective range of 100 knots. At this speed, in this fog, and running silent the Astute was a ghost, which made her mission of scouting the area near Karshkovian waters much easier.

The Astute had detached from the Furies Battle Group early yesterday morning for a solo run up to the Territorial Boundary for a quick look. The Karshkovians had recently sunk a foreign freighter near their waters and had already tried to track the Battle Groups with one of their subs and had been less than pleased when two F/A-39s had lit up one of their ship's with their RADAR a couple of days ago.

Takashi saw the other ship just before one of the look outs next to him did.

He grabbed the wing mic and began barking orders to the bridge.

"Conn, Actual - Haystack (code name for unkown surface contact) spotted, bearing 231, range 1,800 yards. Set General Quarters throughout the ship."

"Actual, Conn - Aye."

Takashi was already in the bridge and donning his flak vest and helmet before the reply was completed.

Throughout the ship mean (Tolvanic warships do not carry female crewmen) were racing to man their action stations. In CIC, the TAO (Tactical Action Officer) of the Watch watched as his console operators prepped their boards and readied the ship's weapons. Missiles guidance systems were warmed up and fire control RADARs were prepped, but not activated. In the ship's main gun mount, 140mm shells were passed up the Mark 140 and the mount crew were preparing to bring the weapon into action if needed.

Less than three minutes after the call to GQ was issued all stations reported manned and ready and Takashi picked up the short range radio's mic and began speaking.

"This is Astute Actual, I am a cruiser in the Navy of the Commonwealth of Tolvan. State your identity."

ooc: Knot is a unit of speed, equal to one nautical mile per hour, but not used as a distance measurement. Just helping out.

1 kilometers from International Waters inside Karshkovian Waters
Karshkovian Flag Ship, Karshenko


This is Astute Actual, I am a cruiser in the Navy of the Commonwealth of Tolvan. State your identity.

Captain Sergei Volgask was livid...again. The Tolvan cruiser was 800 meters or so from Karshkovian waters and enticing him to a confrontation, which he was not going to back down from.

"General Quarters! Bring all weapons online and spike the Radars! Bring the cannons to bear! I want a firing solution for our torpedos, Sunburns and cannons and I want it yesterday! Get those Sukhois overhead, double-time!"

Volgask grabbed the radio handset and spoke back to the Tolvan ship, "This is Captain Sergei Volgask of the Karshkovian Naval Flagship, Karshenko. You are too close to our national waters and we demand you move your vessel away."

The Udaloy-class guided missile destroyer (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/1155_1.htm) slowed to combat speed while SS-N-22 Moscit missiles were warmed in their launch tubes, SA-N-9 and SA-N-11 SAM missiles were also warmed and readied. The twin AK-130 DP 130 mm guns were loaded and they swiveled quickly towards the Tolvan cruiser. Type 53 torpedoes were slowly made ready in their side-launch tubes. The cruiser was well within their range of 19km at 45knots. Their 305 kg warheads were made ready but not armed as of yet.

The Udav anti-torpedo system and several anti-aircraft systems came operational as well.

Within two minutes the ship was bristling with armed weapons, pumping out the maximum power on it's ECM and ECCM systems.

OOC: In Tolvanic parlance knot and nautical mile are used interchangeably, Knot is much less unwieldy than nautical mile, besdies we all know the military what military can't turn into an acronym it abbreviates.

TCS Astute

"He's an arrogant little fuck isn't he?"

The OOD couldn't help but smile at Takashi's statement.

"Doesn't he know out badly he's outclassed? Any damn fool with a copy of Jane's or the Internet can find the open specs on a Resolute and know a single Udaloy II is seriously outmatched."

"Conn, ESM - Contact now desiginated Sierra 18 has lit off her jammers."

"ESM, Conn - Acknowledged."

Takashi turned to the OOD, Mr. Lynch our friend has been kind enought o show us her guns, return the courtesy.

"Aye sir."

At the OOD's order the Mark 140 swiveled rapidly to bear on the Karashkoivan ship. The '140 could fired 20 140mm HE rounds in just under a minute, more than enough to deal with an Udaloy II. But the main gun wasn't the only thing swinging to bear. The ship's aft Mark 8 "Linemen" CIWS swung to bear on the Karshenko, it's 30mm rounds were designed to kill missiles and aircraft, but they'd do a number on the light frigate they were facing now as well. In addition the ship's midship's mounted RIM-118 24 round RAM launcher was trained on Karshenko. The Mark 50's loaded in the port tubes were put into countertorpedo mode. Finally, four of foward VLS's 96 cells opened and the AGM-200 "Hammer" heavy anti-ship missiles were prepped for action, the range was very close for the big missiles, but with a speed of Mach 6, the Karshkovian would never get a chance to react if they were fired.

Once Takashi was satisfied all weapons were ready he picked up the mic again.

"Karshkovian vessel, Astute Actual - Granted I'm just a sailor and not a an admiralty lawyer, but nothing in Internaitonal Law says I am forbidden from coming close to your National Waters. I will remind you sure that have confronted and threatened a Commonwealth vessel in International Waters, it is you who should move away."

Takashi turned off the mic as the OOD returned from the Radio Room.

"Furies reports six F/A-39s in bound with Hammers and AMRAAMs. ETA, sixteen minutes."

OOC: I reviewed the cruiser's specs and they are too fictional. Too many missiles (384 SAM missiles?), too many torpedoes (96 launch cells?) and just way out of believability(11,600 Metric tons for all that?). To RP, I'd use the Virginia Class (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cgn-38.htm) specs for the cruiser, else I think we may need to rethink our RPing together. I'm a realistic RPer, not fantasy...sorry. There is no way that ship would be that weight unless you were extremely thin hulled and the missiles/torpedos were so small they were only a few pounds each (I.E. toys).

Not your fault but I only rp realistic weapons and weapon systems. There is no way the ship could be mounted with the systems described in the amounts described. There isn't enough room on the deck, nor below decks (given the specs described). Not your fault. Most of Aquantia's stuff isn't well thought out and quite unrealistic.

OOC: I reviewed the cruiser's specs and they are too fictional. Too many missiles (384 SAM missiles?), too many torpedoes (96 launch cells?) and just way out of believability(11,600 Metric tons for all that?). To RP, I'd use the Virginia Class (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cgn-38.htm) specs for the cruiser, else I think we may need to rethink our RPing together. I'm a realistic RPer, not fantasy...sorry. There is no way that ship would be that weight unless you were extremely thin hulled and the missiles/torpedos were so small they were only a few pounds each (I.E. toys).

Not your fault but I only rp realistic weapons and weapon systems. There is no way the ship could be mounted with the systems described in the amounts described. There isn't enough room on the deck, nor below decks (given the specs described). Not your fault. Most of Aquantia's stuff isn't well thought out and quite unrealistic.

OOC: Consider this RP closed and all ties between our nations retconned out of existence.

[OOC: Tolvan, that was rather harsh...]

[OOC: Tolvan, that was rather harsh...]

OOC: I have no interest in arguing the middling details of a vessel I didn't design, and since Karshkovia considers my entire Navy to be "fantasy" tech I see no need to continue this RP or any of the others.

I think it is now time for this thread to die.

[ooc: If that is what you wish. I was merely pointing out that the ship was unrealistic and there was no way it could work. Knock off the surface missiles down to 16-20, the cells down by half or so and the torpedoes down to 6-10, then it would be realistic in the cruiser-class. Your RP is fine, it's just that the ship itself is not only overpowered but wouldn't be able to fit everything suggested on the deck (nor stay afloat).

But if you wish, we can certainly cut ties. I'm a stickler for realism when it comes to military hardware as it affects how write my story and how my characters can react. It's not that I consider it fantasy...just the design is very poorly thought out. I wish you well in your endeavors, whatever they would be. No hard feelings on this end.

OOC: I have no interest in arguing the middling details of a vessel I didn't design, and since Karshkovia considers my entire Navy to be "fantasy" tech I see no need to continue this RP or any of the others.

I think it is now time for this thread to die.

[ooc: I had thought you had reviewed the design and specs before 'purchasing' it, hence were aware it was a poor, overpowered design for it's class (more like a light battleship?) But again, if you feel strongly that it is a realistic design compared to real-life ships, when we can agree to disagree and move on. Perhaps in the future we can work together in a more profitable RP.]

[ooc: I had thought you had reviewed the design and specs before 'purchasing' it, hence were aware it was a poor, overpowered design for it's class (more like a light battleship?) But again, if you feel strongly that it is a realistic design compared to real-life ships, when we can agree to disagree and move on. Perhaps in the future we can work together in a more profitable RP.]

OOC: My only issue was with the displacement, but I domestically produce the vessel so my versions displaces a little more, plus in Tolvanic service only a handful of the VLS cells carry "Quad-Packs", I favor a more rounded missile load out over the SAM heavy load detailed in the write up. All of which is moot since I "ordered" some new ships from another storefront today anyway, since it occured to me that having my whole Navy licensed from one place didn't make much since ICly.

Perhaps we can put another RP together once we've retooled my military, I have a few other procurement projects in the works as well, and I have sufficient time to dedicate to a proper RP.

OOC: My only issue was with the displacement, but I domestically produce the vessel so my versions displaces a little more, plus in Tolvanic service only a handful of the VLS cells carry "Quad-Packs", I favor a more rounded missile load out over the SAM heavy load detailed in the write up. All of which is moot since I "ordered" some new ships from another storefront today anyway, since it occured to me that having my whole Navy licensed from one place didn't make much since ICly.

Perhaps we can put another RP together once we've retooled my military, I have a few other procurement projects in the works as well, and I have sufficient time to dedicate to a proper RP.

OOC: I'm all for that! Like I said, no hard feelings on this end and to be honest perhaps having our military duke it out wouldn't be the best idea since I only really have that warship at this time (I have a carrier battlegroup paid for but I want to RP that it is still nearly a 'year' away from being delivered. I like to slowly RP the rebuilding of Karshkovia and gradual strengthening of her into a superpower (MUCH later).

I see Karshkovia as a socialist democracy. A country that is lead (reluctantly right now) buy a level-headed President, and a kind Prime Minister. A mixing pot of people truly accepting of others, yet an undertone from some citizens of discontent with this change to democracy.

I'm going to let the cat out of the bag a little here. I have a story arc planned for the country and many stories I want to tell about it. I plan to have a war between a neighboring nation based on ancient disputes. I plan to have a political unrest and attempted coup. I have a story about Karshkovia headed into space. I want to build up the characters of the crew for the first shuttle missions so people are used to them before they head into space. I see Karshkovia then building the space station and later landing on the moon.

The biggest planned story is one I will have must include three or four other nations in a VERY closed RP. A hint is I plan to have a terrorist group (from one of the political parties that decides to take the country back to russia by force) take over a military base where a dismantled nuclear ICBM warheads are being stored before removal from Karshkovia....and the decisions made to stop the terrorists.

I hope that you would be willing to be a part of some of these stories. I like your rp and that is why I wanted to establish 'diplomatic ties'. I like long, RPed posts and you do them quite well.

[OOC: That reminds me; I have to go worry about our diplomatic meet again. Damn Notepad...cursed memory...]

[OOC: That reminds me; I have to go worry about our diplomatic meet again. Damn Notepad...cursed memory...]

ooc: lol! I actually was starting to write it up now figuring you had forgotten. Hehe. Anyway, if you get it up, I'll get a response on it right away.

OOC: I'm all for that! Like I said, no hard feelings on this end and to be honest perhaps having our military duke it out wouldn't be the best idea since I only really have that warship at this time (I have a carrier battlegroup paid for but I want to RP that it is still nearly a 'year' away from being delivered. I like to slowly RP the rebuilding of Karshkovia and gradual strengthening of her into a superpower (MUCH later).

I see Karshkovia as a socialist democracy. A country that is lead (reluctantly right now) buy a level-headed President, and a kind Prime Minister. A mixing pot of people truly accepting of others, yet an undertone from some citizens of discontent with this change to democracy.

I'm going to let the cat out of the bag a little here. I have a story arc planned for the country and many stories I want to tell about it. I plan to have a war between a neighboring nation based on ancient disputes. I plan to have a political unrest and attempted coup. I have a story about Karshkovia headed into space. I want to build up the characters of the crew for the first shuttle missions so people are used to them before they head into space. I see Karshkovia then building the space station and later landing on the moon.

The biggest planned story is one I will have must include three or four other nations in a VERY closed RP. A hint is I plan to have a terrorist group (from one of the political parties that decides to take the country back to russia by force) take over a military base where a dismantled nuclear ICBM warheads are being stored before removal from Karshkovia....and the decisions made to stop the terrorists.

I hope that you would be willing to be a part of some of these stories. I like your rp and that is why I wanted to establish 'diplomatic ties'. I like long, RPed posts and you do them quite well.

OOC: Sounds reasonable to me, I tend to prefer smaller "show the flag" style RPs over actual wars anyway since all mine seem to die out. Since our nations' relationship is shaped so heavily by this incident we're retconning I'd suggest we start a new thread in the near future establishing ties as a lead in to your planned story arcs.

OOC: Sounds reasonable to me, I tend to prefer smaller "show the flag" style RPs over actual wars anyway since all mine seem to die out. Since our nations' relationship is shaped so heavily by this incident we're retconning I'd suggest we start a new thread in the near future establishing ties as a lead in to your planned story arcs.

ooc: that worked beautifully for me

[OOC: Since I rarely start threads, and I don't have much say; the most I could do is post that Alexei (my Commissar) is waiting. Perhaps you could start it off with a plane landing and meet?]