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Akimonad condemns Communism (Open)

Akimonad
02-02-2008, 21:24
Reprinted from the Kent Tribune, 1 February 73 ACD

Akimonad condemns Communism
New government release outlines objections, new policy

Today, after a meeting of the Executive Advisory Council, Protocol 77 was released by the Office of Public Relations. Protocol 77 is a controversial statement and brief concerning Akimonad's position on communism. It is the Empire's first official statement concerning communism. "Communism," begins the protocol, "is not viable in any form, real or imagined. It serves only to corrupt government and oppress people while try to spread itself. It has not ever fulfilled its self-assigned goals of utopia and equality. Communism is, in effect, a virulent disease."

The protocol later explores the "hypocrisy" of communism, mentioning the "sham democracy in Yanitaria" as an example. "The recent elections in Yanitaria," reads the brief, "show only that communism is little more than authoritarian government masquerading as democracy. It would be considerably more honourable for a communist nation to admit to its authoritarian leadership, but this will never happen."

Later, the present war between The Peoples Freedom and the Sons of Lenin was mentioned. The Peoples Freedom's actions were praised. "We commend The Peoples Freedom for their crusade to help rid the world of communism." the brief read.

The Protocol also outlines new policies that will be put in place. "Henceforth, Akimonad shall actively pursue the containment of communism with all means necessary." it states.

Protocol 77 ends with a few notes about "social democracies" and Akimonad's stance towards them. "Akimonad has few qualms about nations with social democracies, that is provided that they are in fact a democracy and are performing the functions thereof."

Domestic reaction to Protocol 77 was mixed, with opposition encouraging Akimonad to be more tolerant of communism. At a short press conference, Lord Protector Dr. Jules Hodz responded to the opposition. "We're not looking to coddle communists," he said. "They've done their share of damage and continue to try to spread their misguided ideology, generally by force. I don't expect everyone to like our decisions, but they stand."

Foreign reaction remains to be seen.

OOC: Open to reactions and such. Basically my country is officially anti-communist now.
Nova Pictavia
02-02-2008, 22:39
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Imperial Communiqué

To The Autocratic Federated Empire of Akimonad:
Although the foreign policy of Akimonad has often came into direct conflict with that of New Pictavia, an emerging common-ground shared by both states may be seen a little more with each passing day. A laissez-faire policy on government of The Far Echo Islands is indeed a profound step-forward in international relations, especially as the proposal was drafted by Echoia itself, avoiding any further unnecessary bloodshed. Perhaps more recently, the Londinian beast was quelled by a coalition force spearheaded by Akimonad, who have since seen the error of previously supporting the Eurasian warmonger. These actions are deserving of Pictish gratification alone.

Now onto the topic at hand: The denouncement of Communism. For years New Pictavia has strived to create an economy where each worker shares equal rights, and whose labour should be returned justly. However, the ideal of communism holds no ground in our economic model. As you may already be aware, syndicalism comes into direct conflict with communism and even socialism on many economic and idealistic issues, primarily through the Pictish state's condoning of privatism, and lack of interest on distributing and controlling output. Rather, our industry's syndicates, often Clan-orientated, focus on the democratic internal organization of businesses where each worker owns a share of the venture, and has the ability to elect their managerial staff and vote on a near infinite collection of issues. Thus, a pro-competitive atmosphere is established with each syndicate is often in direct competition with the other, where the worker sweats to expand and establish the dominance of his or her business and then in turn, their commercial assets.

That being said, although we hold many of the same principals of capitalism within the commercial sector, the internal organization of business' differs greatly. There is still however, a far more similar comparison to be draw here than with one of Syndicalism/Communism, despite the alliance of syndicalist and socialist movements throughout the globe. Not only does communism seek to destroy the progress created through competition, it rewards the vast array of efforts invested by workers equally. Is this fair? Simply put, no. Some workers will always strive to do better than others, and thus the democratic syndicates will seek to place said worker in a position of greater authority in order to fuel the growth of the corporation, and in turn, their share. I should say that this is idealist and far from perfect, although we believe it reaches a level of worker efficiency greater than that of hierarchical capitalism alone. A key component, you may well have noticed, is the ideal of democracy and the direct appointment of government from the pluralistic syndicates. Democracy, a word which is absent from the tongues of many communists. As Marx believed, in order to achieve true Communism (which I might add, is a eutopian fantasy simply not attainable) a final epoch must be overcome: that of the dictatorship of the proletariat. Dictatorship, where the majority is ruled against their will by a minority; by either a party or absolute ruler. Our greatest memory of this event has to be the branched ideology of Lenninism, where the state grew in order to oppress its citizens, rather than dissipate to achieve communism as Marx theorized. Communism, as used by the modern tongue, is counter-productive, overtly-controlling, undeniably oppressive and above all, a failed ideology not wanted by the people.

Thus, I may say, we share yet another common ground.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of New Pictavia,
Councillor of The Silver Imperium.
Yanitaria
02-02-2008, 22:41
Snippity Snip Snip

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President Norheim Laughs Uncontrollably

President Norheim was read the latest news from Akimonad condemning Yanitarian democracy. In the public ceremony, he could barely control his laughter.

Norheim, a fan of the book Catcher In The Rye, after calming down, took the microphone and addressed the nation. "Akimonad is obviously a den of hypocrisy of Orwellian proportions! They do, however show great skill in Doublethink. The latest reports show that Political rights in Akimonad are outlawed! Furthermore, while Yanitaria has a spotless record of Civil Rights, in Akimonadi people don't have even a semblance of the rights we allow our people.

"And capitalism!? Ha! Recently Akimonad passed legislation allowing the government to take all gold finds in their nation. Such hypocrisy isn't even matched by Baudoin himself!

"And finally, they have the gall to call us a totalitarian state because we are socialist. They don't even have the sense to differentiate between Socialist and Communist. This is very likely due to the fact that any real capitalist state doesn't provide free education, like other civilized nations.

"But let us look back to Baudoin, the former president. He was a capitalist through and through! He created the now rogue crime syndacate "The Capitalist Underground", he gave the directors, whom he appointed, free range in their own corporations, and further more, he took away so many political rights, that even now, weeks after my election I am still trying to fix that!

"Now tell me, doesn't the Akimonadi accusation reek of propaganda and misinformation? My people of the United Socialist States of Yanitaria, take pride in your socialist heritage. Take pride in the fact that people aren't left to suffer and die in the streets, because nobody cares. Take pride in the fact that we have the freedom to do, say, or wear whatever we want, unlike the people of the Autocratic Federated Empire of Akimonad."

The crowd gathered in Trotsky Place, where the public reading took place reportedly erupted in cheers, as the crowd thunderously clapped it's assent.

No hard feelings OOCly.
1010102
02-02-2008, 22:53
Binarian Forgien Policy Declaration

The Binarian Empire supports protocal 77 and hopes that other nations adopt simmilar policies. The scourge that is communism must be quarintined to prevent its spread from the rest of the world. As of this moment, all trade from Binarian companies, and no Binarian citizen may visit your natin for any reason other than aprroved diplomatic travel. As such, any Yanitarian citizen found in Binaria will be arrested and deported, with execption to diplomatic personel.

Secretary of State Fred Olnson

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OOC: With your spy ring rp thing this will happen after the final conclusion of that thread, when ever it is posted
Faxanavia
02-02-2008, 23:03
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The Orwellian Meritocracy of Faxanavia commends the most noble actions of the Autocratic Federated Empire of Akimonad. Akimonad has embraced all the true idealistic concepts which make a society great- autocracy and the condemnation of communism. Both are practices which Faxanavia believe to be the way forward into the future, and what shall soon proliferate as the true governmental ideal. The Orwellian Meritocracy wishes to enquire as to whether or not Akimonad is interested in opening diplomatic relationships and a possible alliance between our two great nations.

Respectfully yours,
Hephaestus Blackforge
Imperator
Yanitaria
02-02-2008, 23:12
Binarian Forgien Policy Declaration

The Binarian Empire supports protocal 77 and hopes that other nations adopt simmilar policies. The scourge that is communism must be quarintined to prevent its spread from the rest of the world. As of this moment, all trade from Binarian companies, and no Binarian citizen may visit your natin for any reason other than aprroved diplomatic travel. As such, any Yanitarian citizen found in Binaria will be arrested and deported, with execption to diplomatic personel.

Secretary of State Fred Olnson

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OOC: With your spy ring rp thing this will happen after the final conclusion of that thread, when ever it is posted

OOC: kk. Also, after this goes into effect, my nation will enact a similar policy. I am just to lazy to open up photobucket and format it as a diplomatic proclaimation.
Kirav
02-02-2008, 23:20
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Kiravian Empire

Permissum Astrum Subleuco

Imperial Secriat of State

Anti-Communism Office

We applaud the Akimonadi on denouncing the flawed, misdirected, and often abused ideology of Communism. We too, feel that a free country is not only one with political and social freedoms, but with economic freedom as well, where a man can work or deal to support himself and his family without unneccessary governmental control.
Romandeos
02-02-2008, 23:25
Imperial Diplomatic Communication:

Her Imperial Majesty's Government, as well as Romandeos in general does not have much use for communism, but most political doctrines are freely allowed here, in keeping with our laws concerning free speech and such like.

Having said that, we congratulate the Akimonadi on turning their backs on communism. Of all the political structures, it is perhaps the worst there is.

~ Romandeos
Third Spanish States
03-02-2008, 01:54
(OOC: This is a modified copy and paste on a statement regarding a "Communist Dictatorships Alliance", fits perfectly here as well)

Point of View of Third Spanish States Citizens
On Akimonad's Protocol 77, Pseudo-Communist Totalitarian States and Pseudo-Democratic Capitalist Governments

Libertad sin socialismo es privilegio, injusticia; Socialismo sin libertad es esclavitud y brutalidad.
Mijail Bakunin
(Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality - Mikhail Bakunin)

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Power always corrupts and political freedom can never be separated from the true economical liberty of the working class, a society without economical hierarchies cannot exist if there are political hierarchies, and thus a society without political hierarchies like a true democracy cannot exist if there are economical hierarchies. By creating an hierarchy between the haves and have-nots of political power, in a "communist" dictatorship soon the Communist Party replaces the role of the burgeoise as the ruling class, leading a nation to something even worser than the false democracies under capitalism: the false socialism under state capitalism and totalitarianism where those who are unfortunate to not be under the Party are oppressed and live miserable lives. Now rather than being fired from their wage slavery jobs to starve among the infinite mass of unemployeds from the capitalist "free" market, those who question the rule of the upper class of the Party are sent to firing squads, torture or to the death camps of forced labor known as Gulags. Now rather than slaves of bosses and enterprises dedicating most of their lives to the profits of a few fat cats and under the oppressive control of bosses, they've become complete slaves of the State, having their entire lives dedicated to the interest and controlled by the Party elite luxury lifestyle and to the whims of a dictator who thrives in prosperity from the surplus-value of his people and of the slaves from the Gulags while his people wallows in misery. Such is the picture and reality of the dictatorship of the Proletariat: as by taking over the tool of the maintenance of the burgeoise interests: the State, rather than abolishing it, they have created a new economic elite. In other words, a "communist" dictatorship makes as much sense as a capitalist "democracy".

Thus, if Protocol 77 refers specifically to the sham and fraud known as "Dictatorship of the Proletariat", which insists on claiming to support communism besides all the facts on contrary, proving it is nothing but a highly centralized form of capitalism where the government replaces all corporations, we endorse your declaration against State Capitalism and its planned, bureaucratic and unjust economy focused on the satisfaction of the luxuries of the Party or political elite. Now, should it also be targeted towards decentralized and libertarian forms of socialism which we successfully established in our nation, we would like to point some facts first before premature conclusions are drawn:

Third Spanish States is an entirely voluntary society where those who refuse to join have a chance become self-sufficient from the societies, with a highly decentralized social order based on the concept of communes... some communes are organized as communist societies where all wealth is shared, while others like Tucker embraced a fair and just neo-mutualist, and now this might sound strange, but Tucker's economy is a socialist free market of private cooperatives where profit is only one of the primary goals, which workers have equal share over decision-making, profit and means of production and manage such private enterprises through entirely democratic principles in a bottom-to-top organization of cooperativism rather than an hierarchical organization of corporatism, while the improvement of the life of the community and of the future of all cooperative members is an as important priority as the positive profit figures on each month. In such fair market there are not interest rates and greedy bankers,landlords with rental of unused private properties while many are homeless and the typical parasite business owner who lets their business ran by wage employees while they live in quasi-permanent vacations. Neither there is social welfare for those who can but refuse to work by joining or organizing a cooperative or by making their own small businesses, as we have for enough years sustained vagabonds, both rich and poor, in our past societies. However in other cities besides Tucker such people are offered only the minimum necessary for their survival as a way to ensure starvation shall be only a phantom of the past, in the hopes the lack of anything besides that would motivate them to seek more than just survival. While others have embraced a primitivist life style in the forests. In Third Spanish States, people have the entire liberty of developing their own fair means of production, socio-economic organization, of opening cooperatives with their friends or small businesses with their families, controlling their own means of production rather than relying on the whims of a "Labor Market" and wage slavery, with no restrictions or bureaucracy on the establishment of new fair businesses, all that is required is the fairness of the economical process, which means that exploitive and unfair processes like interest rates, surplus value, rental and heritages, which only contribute for widening the gap between the haves and have-nots in capitalist "democracies", cannot be employed. Those who disagree with the concept of economic fairness are entirely free to immigrate to capitalist nations, or to even establish their own anarcho-capitalist society elsewhere, should they wish to.

Thus we would ask you to reconsider your statement that a communist society is impossible. It is possible, but only as an entirely voluntary rather than coercive social organization, coexisting rather than overwhelming other voluntary and fair socio-economic organizations like cooperative businesses and neo-mutualist free markets.
Stoklomolvi
03-02-2008, 02:05
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hemegony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Minimum Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: Akimonadi Ban of Communism

Stoklomolvi has nothing to say on the recent ban by Akimonad on communists in its nation. Internal matters do not concern us. However, it hereby declares that all Binarian residents in Stoklomolvi will be publicly executed within one month unless Binaria agrees to receive all citizens. Any Binarian after the one month deadline will be executed, regardless of occupation. It will follow in the footsteps of its allies, only a step further.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
North Erusea
03-02-2008, 02:06
After hearing that statment from a communist leader, The Empire of North Erusea will also oppose communism. Our country has always hated communists in which they mistreat their citizens horribly.
Questers
03-02-2008, 02:09
GOVERNMENT STATEMENT

We request that the Stoklomolvian is order is withdrawn as it sets a dangerous precedent to any Questarians overseas in Stoklomolvi. We warn all nations that execution of a Questarian, or a Questarian Commonwealth citizen that has not had a free and fair trial by jury is a declaration of war on the Empire.

Furthermore, for the Yanitarian President's information, Questers spends 38.5tn dollars a year on education and is considered a leading capitalist power.
Red Tide2
03-02-2008, 02:38
OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM TSRT GOVERNMENT!
"The Totalitarian State applauds Protocol 77, issued by our friends in the nation of Akimonad! The plague known as Communism must be eradicated from the Earth! The Capitalist powers of the world must stand firm against this evil!"
End Message
Stoklomolvi
03-02-2008, 02:50
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hemegony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Minimum Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: RE: Questarian Request

Stoklomolvi will not be worrying about citizens of any nation other than Binaria, who has threatened one of our allies, Yanitaria. Only Binarians will be affected by this act. We will retract our statements if the Binarians and Yanitarians cease their squabbling.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Shazbotdom
03-02-2008, 02:53
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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SUPREME EMPEROR
MR LARRY WILLIAMS
Whilst the Akimonad declaration does not really supprise us here in the Shazbotdom Empire, we will make nothing of it. Although with the current conflict that will be setting in within our own nation from this 'Declaration of War' made against us by the Eurasian Socialist Rep, we are enacting a travel advisory for all nations wishing travel to the Shazbotdom Empire.

The last thing we want is innocent civilians from any nation, be it Capitalist, Communist, Socialist, Therocracy, etc being in harms way during this conflict. If anyone from a foreign nation is within the boundries of the Shazbotdom Empire, we are urging them to leave the Empire until such a time as we feel that they will be safe again.

This is not a ban of anyone from a foreign nation from entering the Empire, but it is a warning to those wishing to enter that we will attempt to try and keep any invading forces away from populated area's.
Oily prata
03-02-2008, 03:27
Official Diplomatic Communique From The Free Republic Of Oily Prata

Blah Blah Blah Strongly Criticize Protocol 77, Blah Blah Blah Orwellian Doublethink, Blah Blah Blah Yanitaria People Not Enslaved, Blah Blah Blah ThePeoplesFreedom Barbaric Warmonger, Blah Blah Blah Akimonad Falling Into Dictatorship Blah Blah Blah

Regards,
Nikolaus Tezla
Foreign Affairs Commandant
Free Republic Of Oily Prata
Stoklomolvi
03-02-2008, 03:31
[OOC: :D People like doing that nowadays...thanks to Cookesborough...]
Caelapes
03-02-2008, 03:33
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Profesi Aminito - Féderati Qælapeo - Komisi Inqiro Krimeni Civito Patrono
Official Communiqué - Federation of Caelapes - Investigative Commission on State-Sponsored Crime

To the Akimonadi Executive Advisory Council:

While the Investigative Commission on State-Sponsored Crime notes the extensive crimes undertaken by Communist governments, including the suppression of basic political rights such as the right to free speech and free assembly, the Commission also notes that there are Communist-style governments in existance which do not practice the suppression of their people.

For this reason, we humbly call into question the totality of the Akimonadi declaration to "actively pursue the containment of [C]ommunism" and request knowledge regarding plans currently being drafted by the Akimonadi government to respond to Communist threats, both domestic and foreign. We also request knowledge regarding Akimonadi foreign policy related to dealings with Communist nations. Furthermore, we are interested in the further legality of socialist and Communist parties within the Empire of Akimonad. While the Federation of Caelapes is not Communist, we recognize the threat present in a nation's attempt to eradicate from the world a viewpoint undesirable to them, especially when measures are taken to reduce their people's political rights to those ends.

Dum spiramus tuebimur.

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The Rt. Hon. Arturo Torino, MP
Aminiti Primo, Féderati Qælapeo

The Hon. Michele Finch, MP
Aminiti Arcesiteo Humano, Féderati Qælapeo

Her Excellency Rachelle Kentwood, Caelapes
Legati Primo, Emisari Akimonado

Inspector-General Katelyn Koning
Komisi Inqiro Krimeni Civito Patrono
Yanitaria
03-02-2008, 03:41
OOC: Indeed, I love that whole "blah blah [insert point] blah blah" posts. It still makes me chuckle
Cookesland
03-02-2008, 03:43
OOC: :D People like doing that nowadays...thanks to Cookesborough...]

[OoC: :p definately one of my better ideas... ]

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Official Diplomatic Communiqué

To: the Akimonadi Executive Advisory Council

We are very glad to see that our Akimonadi allies have recognized the Communist doctrine for the hypocrisy it is. We wish you the best of luck in your efforts to contain it within it's current boundaries so that Liberal Democracy may triumph throughout the world.

Best Wishes,
Alan Foxswift
Alan Foxswift
President
The United States of Cookesland
Zintharia
03-02-2008, 03:49
Official Press Release, High Soviet of the Soviet-Socialist Federation of Zintharia, Office of the Marshal of the SSFZ, Major Mikhail Lonieda

To: Any and All members of the Akimonad Government
From:Major Mikhail Lonieda, Marshal of the SSFZ

To members of the Akimonad government involved with your latest protocol,

Quite frankly, you are declaring something which many a capitalist pig before you has declared. What you are doing is nothing new, and you are, in fact, a coward for simply rehashing every criticism thrown at Communist/Socialist nations before.

In short, I request that you kindly shut your ugly mouths before we wash them out with soap.

That being said, we do not want any kind of war between our two nations, so please, by all means don't let your simple minds think otherwise. All of that profit-lusting and trampling of worker's rights may be tiring, but take a deep breath without robbing a low income family before you think of a response, that's all I ask. You've got to take at least one eye off of your bank accounts and watch your personal health you know.

Not So Sincerely,
Major Mikhail Lonieda, Marshal of the SSFZ
Office of the Marshallcy, New Leningrad, TZ
1010102
03-02-2008, 05:27
snip

Offical Binarian Response:

Aw, how cute, the blind little commie doesn't know how to reason. If it did it wouldn't be a communist. It can't even see its own lies. How pitiful.
Aurum Domus
03-02-2008, 05:53
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Official Response From Aurum Domus High Command

We support the Akimonadis condemnation of the vile governmental system of Communism. While it has always looked good on paper human nature prevents it from working in the real world.
Zintharia
03-02-2008, 06:28
From: MAJ Mikhail Lonieda, Marshal of the SSFZ
To: Binarian Government

It is not that we do not know how to reason; we simply see no need to reason with the irrational. Why waste our time on an argument that has been debated for centuries when we know that it will always end in violence and the pointless death of all of our noble soldiers? That end is not worth coming to.

And to another point, what lies? All of what we said is true. Capitalism is a system designed for a few to profit off of the many-that's the accepted creed, to profit as much from others' work as you can. It's a disgusting, selfish habit.

Sincerely,
MAJ Mikhail Lonieda, Marshal of the USSZ
Office of the Marshalcy, New Leningrad, TZ
Animarnia
03-02-2008, 07:26
Message to Akimond Embassy

Dear:
[X] President
[ ] Prime Minister
[ ] Tin Pot Dictator
[ ] CEO
[ ] Nut-Job

Animarnia Officially:
[ ] Condemns
[ ] Applauds
[X] Has no Opinion
[ ] Declares war

On your:
[ ] Threatening behaviour
[ ] Testing of a Nuclear Weapon
[ ] Marriage
[X] Statement against a government system

We Sincerely hope:
[X] You have a nice day
[ ] Choke on a Pretzel
[ ] Nuke yourselves.

Animarnia Diplomatic Corp
Zintharia
03-02-2008, 07:54
ooc: lol
Mondoth
03-02-2008, 08:42
OOC: don't bring the form letter back, those were obnoxious.

Statement by the Freehold of Mondoth State Commission
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While The Freehold has no special regard for communism or its various incarnations, we feel it is beyond a governments rights and duties to declare something as nebulous as a political ideology abhorrent in any way, let alone as a statement of policy. We therefore find it necessary to Chastise those who have done so and hope that they reconsider their ways.

-Comsr. Abdul Ahmadinejad of the Foreign Affairs Commission
Bretton
03-02-2008, 09:00
Brettonia Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Official Statement

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We are always pleased to hear of the renouncement of Communism and other ideologies of collectivist thought from more civilized nations throughout the world. May your abandonment of disastrous Marxism serve your state well for perpetuity!

If a situation were to arise where your state were to be threatened by leftist agitators and other purveyors of collectivism, do not hesitate to ask of our help - the Brettonian Anti-Bolshevik Front helps all who suffer under the boot of the Socialist Menace.
Allanea
03-02-2008, 09:06
Official Message from Alexander Kazansky:

Personally, I endorse the activities of the Brettonian Anti-Bolshevik Front. Watch this space for a donation.
Allanea
03-02-2008, 13:42
Address by Alexander Kazansky, related to the events in Akimonad and otherwise, delivered in the University of Army Academy at Fort Straedsen

Greetings, my friends. Greetings, Freemen, and greetings, Brettonians and Akimonadi.

Recently, we hear that the leadership of Akimonad has been taking some flak for condemning Communism and Socialism. Apparently – so say the critics of Akimonad – neither Communism nor Socialism are inherently oppressive. You can take away men's property and not violate their free speech – and if you're still allowed to whine, you're still free.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, I say this is fucking bullshit. Freedom is all-encompassing. It's as much an individual right to run a private school, to own a business or a factory, or to enter a contract, as it is a right to whine about the size of Britney Spears' breasts – not to disparage Britney's boobs or anything. Britney has some goddamn awesome boobs.

Even the most illiterate Allanean – and thankfully, Allanea has a very high literacy rate, UNLIKE some communist shitholes – would rebel if you came to them and tried to impose the stuff from the Communist Manifesto on it.

Here, let me say it again: have the undeniable, unalienable right to freedom of enterprise. Those who violate it are enemies of human freedom.

Now, do I intend to say Allanea will invade a communist country right now? No. Our nation, as you know, has moderated its ways to a great degree recently – something I, too, have taken some flak for.

However, I will continue to persoanlly support the struggle against world communism, and for individual freedom. As such, I have several donations to make. I have already made the orders for two million rifles and shotguns (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13418851&postcount=95) to be delivered to civil rights organizations in Bretton, specifically to the Anti-Bolshevik Front, over the course of the next year.

But I am not done. I will further donate five billion dollars in Wagdian gold to the Army Academy at Fort Straedsen, to found the Priscilla Conde Chair of Air Warfare, and to enhance the study of Air Warfare in all its aspects. Furthermore, nine hundred million dollars will be distributed in the form of grants to students and staff of the Academy, starting with the people in this hall, who will each receive one hundred thousand dollars.

[applause]

It's nice how distributing money makes my oratory skills so much better. Let me restate what I said: I hate communism. I hate socialism. I hate slavery. And I would like to express my support for the Akimonadi people for joining the Free World in its struggle to crush, defeat, and destroy communism.

That is all.

May God Bless Akimonad.
May God Bless Bretton.
And May God Bless Allanea.
Akimonad
03-02-2008, 15:30
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Condensed Diplomatic Replies Sheet
Because we're lazy

To New Pictavia: Er, alrighty then. Yeah. Er... whatever. Common ground. Yus.

To Yanitaria: A-ha. A-ha-ha-ha. Ha ha ha ha ha. Kekekekeke.

*clears throat*

You obviously have no idea about life in Akimonad.

To Third Spanish States: Yeah, sure, whatever... but you'll be hard pressed to make people be nice enough to each other to not struggle over power. And anyway, you can't have society without some sort of hierarchy, so I'd say communism fails outright.

To Stoklomolvi: Knock it off with Binaria. We have a military and won't hesitate to use it.

To Questers: Oh, hey, we know you guys.

To Oily prata: Wow, you must be lazier than us.

To Caelapes: We can't share any of our plans over open channels, but feel free to contact us over secure channels.

To Zintharia: Wash our mouths out with soap? I'd like to see you even attempt that. I'll also have you know that workers are rather well provided for in Akimonad, though you would generalize otherwise.

In Conclusion: Have a nice day, unless you're a communist, in which case, go steal the grain from your peasants.

Dr. Jules Hodz
Signature
Lord Protector
Rank/Position

Filed and Issued, 03 February, 73 ACD
Aurum Domus
03-02-2008, 15:52
OOC: Meh no one replied to me....
Faxanavia
03-02-2008, 15:55
OOC: Meh no one replied to me....

OOC: Its okay. He didn't reply to me either :( .
Brydog
03-02-2008, 15:58
To: The Akimonad Government
From: The Liberal Democratic Republic of Wolfenhalle

We commend the actions of government against communism. We believe that communism is not sucessful due to the human behavior of greed. We hope that you allow the communist to still have a right in government.

Signed,
Walter Wolfenhowser
President of the Republic and Lord Chancellor of the Commonwealth
Romandeos
03-02-2008, 18:14
OOC: Its okay. He didn't reply to me either :( .

OOC:

Don't whine. He didn't reply to me either, and do you see me whining?

...

Whinewhinewhinewhinewhinewhine

IC:

For: The Akimonadi Government
From: Her Imperial Majesty's Government

Romandeos once more congratulates Akimonad on standing strong before the hideous plague that is communism. As we stated before, we would join you in keeping it contained but Imperial law prevents us from supressing government method. Now, if a communist government could be proven to be violating its own people's inalienable human rights, or the rights of others...

Well, you get the idea. Once more, congratulations.

Sincerely,
Diplomatic Representative Robin Eames of the IFSR
Zintharia
03-02-2008, 18:56
To Zintharia: Wash our mouths out with soap? I'd like to see you even attempt that. I'll also have you know that workers are rather well provided for in Akimonad, though you would generalize otherwise.

Telegram No. 0103

From: Herr Paul McElfries, Head Commissar, Foreign Affairs Bureau
To: Akimonad Government

Guten tag. Unlike our Marshal, I am more interested in preserving communications with foreign nations rather than severing them. Our Marshal is one of the old guard who was elected after the first Marshal of the SSFZ, Grand Commissar Cole, and he is prone to ranting.

We here in the SSFZ would welcome any kind of informational and cultural learning between our two nations in order to better understand each other. As you can see, we know little of your nation.

Sincerely,
Herr Paul McElfries
Head Commissar, Foreign Affairs Bureau
New Leningrad, TZ, SSFZ
Akimonad
03-02-2008, 21:03
OOC: Meh no one replied to me....

Since when am I obligated to reply to everyone? I've little to say to the nations that agree with me.
Caelapes
03-02-2008, 21:31
Profesi Aminito Tacito - Féderati Qælapeo - Offiĉi Exekuto de Aminiti Primo
Secure Communiqué - Federation of Caelapes - Executive Office of the Prime Minister

The requests submitted by the ICSSC stand. For convenience, the entirety of the ICSSC request has been reproduced with padding to prevent foreign cryptanalysis from using the text as a crib.

"For this seastn, we humcly cfll into qvestnon the toualiyy of the Alimosadi declbratnon to 'acuiveqy pursue uhe ctntainmeot of [C]ommunjsm' fnd requett kntwledge rfgariing plant curwently bejng dwafted by uhe Apimonadi hovewnment to sesptnd to Comnunixt threatt, boyh domestjc ani foreign. We aqso requett kntwledge rfgariing Akimpnadn foreign qolihy relatee to djalings wjth Ctmmunist oatitns. Furtiermtre, we arf intjrested io the kurther lfgalnty of socjalixt and Comnunixt partiet witmin the Emqire tf Akimonbd. Wmile the Ffderftion of Cbelaues is not Dommznist, we secolnize the uhreft presenu in a sation's btterpt to eraeicaye from thf worqd a viewppint zndesiracle tt them, esqeciflly when neaszres are tbken yo reduce uheiw people't polntical rihhts yo those eods."

We look forward to your response.

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The Rt. Hon. Arturo Torino, MP
Aminiti Primo, Féderati Qælapeo

Her Excellency Rachelle Kentwood, Caelapes
Legati Primo, Emisari Akimonado

Inspector-General Katelyn Koning
Komisi Inqiro Krimeni Civito Patrono
Akimonad
03-02-2008, 21:33
TG for Caelapes.
Yanitaria
04-02-2008, 01:46
Snip

OOC: Nice! That made me laugh. I wondered what you mean by charity, I just assumed you were buying them because I am an '07 nation. No hard feelings OOCly, right?

IC:

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Due to Allenea's outstanding show of Generosity, Yanitarian Arms, through the Yanitarian government, will be donating $4.05 Billion to various socialist youth organizations.

Furthermore, we hope that the Anti-Bolshevik front loves their tools, lovingly crafted by the socialist worker, for the workers revolution.

OOC again:
Akimonad: Anything I said about your nation comes directly from your nation's page. Except for the education thing, because I am pointing out that if you have socialized school systems, you are a hypocrite, and if you don't, then it's no wonder your people are capitalists, because they aren't educated.

Again, that's all IC. Hope there isn't any bad blood OOCly.
Third Spanish States
04-02-2008, 06:18
(OOC: This is entirely IC in content, I found this LULZY pic for a militant anti-capitalist group, besides the standard ANTIFA flag, of course. *Edit, and regarding the:
you'll be hard pressed to make people be nice enough to each other to not struggle over power

People watch each other, and the right to live is only given to those who respect the right of freedom and life of others, those who try to "get and step over others" or to establish an authoritarian hierarchy by trying to become dictators simply end with a bullet in their heads (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=546442). They use a quote from Tucker to justify it. Yep, there's a bit of "tyranny by the majority" here and there but flowery Utopias are just too bland)

Third Spanish States Unofficial Statement


FROM

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AND FROM

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Aware of the rhetoric of the Anti-Bolshevik Front front, coupled with its ignorance in believing Bolshevism is the only form of communism, the ANTIFA and Anti-capitalist movements in Third Spanish States shall keep a careful watch on human rights abuses committed by such fascist pigs in the name of combating Bolshevism, and shall intensify operations against the underground capitalist organized crime in Third Spanish States.

We condemn the hypocrites of Allanea for their inconditional support against an entirely anti-democratic and fascist organization and would like to remind all that fascism is a political system universally known for their persecution against communists, beware of those who seek a violent end to communists, and that such actions might be the precedent of a slippery slope from the nation of Akimonad into despotism.


First the communists...

Then all those who question the government start to be called as communists regardless of their ideologies...

And history repeats again for the worse...

Stop the slippery slope while you can...

Before you are sent to the firing squad for questioning corporate practices!

Political Freedom is an unalienable right for any true democracy. Those who persecute people based on ideology are at best shams that dare to call themselves democracy and at worse disguised fascist and totalitarian States!
Vetalia
04-02-2008, 07:04
Praetor Albert Ekomov, in a show of solidarity with the Akimonadi government and their strong stance against Communism, has formally awarded Dr. Jules Hodz the Medal of Economic Achievement for his work in helping to stem the tide of Communist expansion around the world. He delivered the award as part of a keynote address to the Vetalian Chamber of Commerce, which is currently holding its 65th International Finance Symposium in Tornus, Vetalian Yarkai.

"...I, along with my staff, have reviewed the text of Protocol 77 and have found it more than consistent with our own efforts to contain the threat posed by Communism. We see a kindred spirit in our Akimonadi friends, and hope that this marks the beginning of a stronger relationship between capitalist states

"One only has to compare the glittering prosperity of our enclaves Vetalian Zintharia and Vetalian Calaveras, both great and beautiful bastions of capitalism, to their communist counterparts to see the true difference between our systems. While our people are constantly supplied with the best products the world has to offer, the poor souls imprisoned in these states face endless shortages and the inferior goods produced by a system that can only barely meet its citizens needs.

There is a reason why the Vetalian ruble, or Akimonadi trigan, is accepted virtually everywhere as a valuable means of payment, while the Zinthar ruble is worth little more than the paper it is printed on. Our currencies are backed by the profitable and productive labor of our colossal economies, which allow us to enjoy the rewards of our labor freely and abundantly. Vetalia's financial acumen represents the peak of economic opportunity, and we are proud to extend that same recognition to a state that has met and exceeded our exacting standards for a truly prosperous capitalist economy."

"On behalf of the people of Vetalia, and the great wealth our system has produced, I am proud to award Dr. Jules Hodz the Medal of Economic Achievement."

Along with the award is a cash prize of 1,000,000 rubles (approx. $2,000,000 USD) and a copy of the Annals of Vetalian Economic Theory, which currently stands as the most comprehensive and largest collection of economic theory in existence. In the even that Dr. Hodz is unavailable to collect the award in person, it will be delivered via a special envoy to Akimonad. The medal itself is struck in pure platinum; featured on the obverse is the famous image Capital Enlightening The World from the Vetalian Central Bank and on the reverse an engraving of the Seal of Vetalia and the signatures of the Praetor, Subpraetor, and Proconsul of Economic Development.
Beth Gellert
04-02-2008, 07:17
Akimonad's Imperial government is, it almost goes without saying, roundly codemnation in Soviet India as an affront to humanity.

Consul Lokuarachchi of the Mōdara 14th Phalansteric Soviet in Colombo, Sinhalese Soviet State, was just one elected representative to give official voice to widespread rebuttals of Akimonad's criticisms.

"We" says Lokuarachchi of his national comrades, "are 'Not viable in any form, real or imagined'! My word, this is troubling news!"

He goes on to invite the authors of the Empire's new policy on Communism to back-up their controversial claims. "Let them come to the Indian Soviet Commonwealth! Indeed, let them come to Colombo and tell me why my commune must cease operation after almost twenty years! Let them travel to Bangalore and tell the People's Cosmonautical Co-operative that its inferior satellites are sure to crash at any moment! Let them explain to the people of Dhaka that the flood defences, raised by public works, must come down because they are not viable! Let them drown the children saved by it, and then let them vanquish the vengeful Commonwealth Guard, which, after all, can not be well trained, equipped, or motivated by such an impossible system as ours!"

Raipur's Commonwealth Final Soviet later expressed concern over Akimonad's pledge to use "any means" to contain Communism and voted to include the Imperial government on a list of suspected terrorist organisations meriting further investigation. Raipur reassured Communist allies such as Zintharia and others associated with The Communist League (Igovian) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519109) that the Commonwealth Guard would respond without delay to any aggression against their revolutionary integrity.

Graeme Igo, the Soviet Commonwealth's ideological father and author of the internationally influential work On Communism (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=532748), pointed out that, while Akimonad's restrictions on civil liberty would be intollerable to an Indian and the nation suffers severe inequality, the Soviet economy is still considerably stronger, calling into question the value of the Imperial government's restrictions and the necessity of the income gap. Responding to typical Allanean raving about the taking-away of people's property Igo invited Bolsheviks to try breaking into his quarters and see if they don't get shot.
Andaras
04-02-2008, 07:36
Shouts filled the chambers as the President entered to address the assembly, general applause erupted as he took his place at the head speaker position of the chambers, this was to be his first announcement since the revolution. The union delegates soon quieted down and he started his speech...

'The People's Republic of Andaras hereby swiftly condemns the reactionary comments of Akimonad, and recognizes them as nothing but the beleaguered taunts of a bourgeois dictatorship desperate to repress it's workers. Long now has the rotten edifice of bourgeoisie liberalism been able to fester in the wounds of humanity, parasitically sapping the resolve of the workers. This bourgeois clique, led by Akimonad, now it seems has become the official voice for the five per cent of Tsarists, bourgeois, speculators, kulaks, pimps, maffiosi and Vlasovites, all justifiably repressed by socialist states all over the world. We pledge to the continuation class war and dekulakization process the world over.

Therefore, even though the ruins of our own revolutionary struggle remain in Andaras, we pledge to stand by the workers of the world, and to confront bourgeois imperialist aggressivism where ever it may come!'

The assembly of union delegates prompty erupted in cheering for their new hero of independence.
Yanitaria
04-02-2008, 08:12
Snip

IC:

[*President Praises CTSS, donates 4 billion to each organization*]

OOC: I need to sleep, but oh, how the internet is so addictive!
Questers
04-02-2008, 08:54
[OOC: Uh, Yanitaria, all the RL world's free market nations have comprehensive education. Even the free-est economies have comprehensive education. Capitalism was born and continues in the most educated parts of the world and is supported by almost entirely educated people, so erm... are you trying to tell me Adam Smith, Wolfgang Hayek, Milton Friedman, Ronald Reagan, and Margaret Thatcher were 'uneducated'?]

Government Statement

As Akimonad is a member of the Questarian Commonwealth, her ultimate foreign and defence interests are that of the Empire too. Therefore, we stress here and now that the interests of Akimonad and of our Empire and Commonwealth will nto be damaged by internal or external leftist agitators. Our Empire and Commonwealth and its allies across the seas will not be cowed into in-action by threats of 'revolution'. We have handled these before and we will handle them again. Should our interests be threatened, we will strike to defend our civilisation, way of life, our freedom. There is not a single leftist nation that can lay claim to be equal to the military powers of Questers, Praetonia, Doomingsland, Automagfreek, Allanea, or any other of the nations that oppose Communism. Tread carefully, or we will bury you.
Yanitaria
04-02-2008, 14:47
[OOC: Uh, Yanitaria, all the RL world's free market nations have comprehensive education. Even the free-est economies have comprehensive education. Capitalism was born and continues in the most educated parts of the world and is supported by almost entirely educated people, so erm... are you trying to tell me Adam Smith, Wolfgang Hayek, Milton Friedman, Ronald Reagan, and Margaret Thatcher were 'uneducated'?

OOC: I said true capitalist, not this socialist-capitalist mix that exists even in the US.

Although it should be noted that the US educational system is on par with Slovakia or Estonia (I forget which, one is healthyness, the other is education), and consistently lags behind more socialist nations like the UK and France.

This really is a convo for general, though, as much as I hate to say it.
Questers
04-02-2008, 15:12
[OOC: Comprehensive education isn't a 'capitalist-socialist' mix. It existed in the UK before the creation of the welfare state and in other nations too. Socialised (as its called in the US) Healthcare, as well as large welfare programs, is a capitalist-socialist mix, but comprehensive education is accepted by many economists as a profitable investment into the state (as long as private education is respected) rather than just something that should be provided for the sake of it. Typical leftist-rightist argument is whether education is about learning or about education for employment...

...Anyway yes, this is somewhat of a General discussion, so we should probably drop it before the inevitable stupidity of General descends into this thread.]
Akimonad
04-02-2008, 16:26
OOC again:
Akimonad: Anything I said about your nation comes directly from your nation's page.

OOC: Well, what NS says about my nation rarely translates as to what "actually" occurs in Akimonad. So don't listen to my nation page. :P
Vetalia
04-02-2008, 16:48
OOC: Well, what NS says about my nation rarely translates as to what "actually" occurs in Akimonad. So don't listen to my nation page. :P

OOC: Yeah. I'd have a crippling 65% tax rate and an economy maybe half the size of the one I actually RP (right now, approx. $700 trillion in nominal dollars) if I went by statistics alone. I have maybe a 10-15% tax rate, tops.
Yanitaria
04-02-2008, 21:27
OOC: Well, what NS says about my nation rarely translates as to what "actually" occurs in Akimonad. So don't listen to my nation page. :P

In which case my government in a near anarchy of political and social freedoms, so the point still stands.

If you accept the NS page as cannon, I am still free-er than you. If not, I can bet I am far more leftist when it comes to political and social freedoms than you as well.

Still, a discussion for another time. I am dropping it.

@Questers: So we agree then. It's dropped as well.
Akimonad
06-02-2008, 03:20
Reprinted from the Kent Tribune, 4 February, 73 ACD

Citizens Protest Against Yanitaria

Kent, Akimonad - Protests erupted in Akimonad today after a statement by the Yanitarian President was aired, wherein he criticized Akimonad. Several TV personalities began critiquing the statement shortly thereafter, which eventually exploded into demonstrations. Citizens took to the streets of Kent, chanting slogans mocking Yanitaria and praising Akimonad. They picketed outside the Federal Capitol Plaza, eventually forcing their way in past the ineffectual and somewhat sympathetic guards. After breaking into the plaza, the mob surrounded the Executive Building and Parliament Hall, preventing egress from Parliament Hall and forcing some MPs to resort to exiting via windows.

The demonstrators began demanding support from the MPs, and calling for action from Dr. Jules Hodz and the military, as well as an official apology from President Norheim of Yanitaria.

"One does not insult my country and expect to get away with it!" one demonstrator screamed through a megaphone. His shout was followed by an uproar of support from the mob.

The group of protesters released an "official" statement in the evening, stating, "Akimonad has committed itself to destroying communism. Let Yanitaria be our first target, as they have shown themselves worthy."

The government has not officially commented, but Dr. Hodz said informally that he will allow the protests to continue as long as they remain peaceful and unobstructive.

"These people have jobs and, I suppose, stomachs. They'll need to leave at some point. These things have a way of resolving themselves."

The protests continue tonight, with demonstrators setting up makeshift shelters in the Plaza.
Yanitaria
06-02-2008, 11:31
Ker-snip


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President Norheim of the USSY released an official statement in the Yanitarian Chronical, the government owned newspaper.

"We praise the Akimonadi support of free speech (OOC: reference to the fact that you'd very much like to censor any foreign criticism), and their well researched opinions of other nations. None the less, we do not wish to fight a war with Akimonad, and I officially apologize."
Stoklomolvi
07-02-2008, 01:43
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hemegony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 4, Heavy Encryption
To: Akimonad
Subject: RE: Threat

We will NOT stand down. It is our right to our own sovereignty to do what we will to our citizens.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Shazbotdom
07-02-2008, 01:50
OOC:
Just a note. I forgot to add this in before and am adding it in now. This is a responce to Posts Numbered 10 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13418298&postcount=10) and 14 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13418354&postcount=14) on the first page.

IC:
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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SUPREME EMPEROR
MR LARRY WILLIAMS
In their ill attempt to frighten another nation to their own will, we feel that the Communist Dominion of Stoklomolvi rethink their position. Whilst we do not support the actions in Akimonad, we feel that it is their nations soverign right to govern their people as they wish, and if they wish to Criminalize the Communist ideology, then that is up to the People and Government of Akimonad and no one else.

The Shazbotdom Government thus is issuing a statment of Commendation to the Akimonad government. We know that they feel they are doing what is in the best interest of the people of their nation, and that is a noble cause in the eyes of the people of the Shazbotdom Empire.
Nova Pictavia
07-02-2008, 02:17
OOC: Shaz, aren't communiqués that aren't labelled 'Open Declaration' or part of a news report generally SIC? Especially when it says "Heavy Encryption"? If you were responding to Stok's last post that is, if you weren't then apologies for the above. I'm a little confused as to who's saying it's OK for governments to do what they want with their citizens, since both you and Stok have. Ignore me if I'm not making any sense here...
Shazbotdom
07-02-2008, 02:24
OOC: Shaz, aren't communiqués that aren't labelled 'Open Declaration' or part of a news report generally SIC? Especially when it says "Heavy Encryption"? If you were responding to Stok's last post that is, if you weren't then apologies for the above. I'm a little confused as to who's saying it's OK for governments to do what they want with their citizens, since both you and Stok have. Ignore me if I'm not making any sense here...

OOC:
I'm doing a responce to posts #10 and #14. I should have made that reference before. my first post in here was general to the Op, but that last one was in responce to those two posts specifically. I'll edit an OOC Comment into that post so people know what posts it's in responce to.

I was just too lazy before to add it to my first post.
The Grand World Order
07-02-2008, 02:27
...and consistently lags behind more socialist nations like the UK and France.

((OOC: Fun fact: About 70% of UK Teenagers don't know where the Pacific Ocean is. When I was in 7th Grade, I was already learning about isotopes and the Periodic Table of the Elements. In 8th Grade I could locate most of the world's nations on a map, including Andorra, Vatican City, et cetera.))

To: Akimonad
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foriegn Affairs

We congratulate you on your condemnation of Communism. Communism is equivalent to a reversed Food Chain. On a normal food chain, the plants and herbivoires are at the bottom, and the predators are at the top. On a Communist-Type of Food Chain, the Predators are on the bottom, and the plants and whatnot are at the top. Eventually this means that the predators will run out of food and die quicker than they would run out on a normal one.
Stoklomolvi
07-02-2008, 02:34
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hemegony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 4, Heavy Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: Shazbotdom

Stoklomolvi refuses to stand down, for that would be an act of cowardice and dishonour before our ally, Yanitaria. Yanitaria was threatened by Binaria, and hence we were obliged to take action against Binaria by deporting Binarian citizens within Stoklomolvi borders. We gave them ample time to leave, and nearly all Binarians have been forced out of Stoklomolvi. The few who remain have been detained and await for Binarian retrieval by the next NS year. If not, they will either be forced out or executed.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Akimonad
07-02-2008, 03:11
Protests Continue Unabated

Kent, Akimonad - For the second day in a row, protesters have been pouring into Kent to protest Yanitarian actions. In addition, they have added Stoklomolvi to their repertoire, for their apparent threats to execute anti-communists.

Though the Yanitarian president met the protesters' demands for an apology, the protests continue in spite of this, with demonstrators decry the alliance between Yanitaria and Stoklomolvi, the New Oslo Pact, the "Axis of Evil". They continue to push for preemptive military action against the two countries.

Protests began to turn unruly, with the mob throwing rocks at the building that houses the headquarters of the Akimonad Defence Forces. The building shrugged off the impacts.

The escalation in protesting has been caused by a "leaked" communique sent from Stoklomolvi to Akimonad wherein they defied Akimonad's demands to cease and desist with their actions and intentions.

Following constant demands, Dr. Jules Hodz scheduled a press conference and commented on the matters.

"We will allow these protests to continue, as stated before. I also believe that this may show a thing or two to the stubborn government of Stoklomolvi. Thankfully, Akimonad is not so barbarous in its domestic and foreign relations."

Protesters continue to call for actions.


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Official Communique

To: Stoklomolvi
From: Dr. Jules Hodz, Lord Protector

Our previous demand was not optional. You are asked to cease and hand over all the Binarian citizens you don't desire peacefully.

There is no need for violence in this matter, and I do not wish it to take place. Compliance will only ensure peace and no recourse.

~Dr. Jules Hodz,
Lord Protector
Nova Pictavia
07-02-2008, 03:20
OOC: GWO: References with "facts" are greatly appreciated, especially if said facts may spark a blue/redcoat argument. Without citation, anyone could claim anything, really.
Shaz: Sorry mate, I get you now.

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Imperial Communiqué

To The Communist Dominion Stoklomolvi [Open Communiqué]:

The increasingly hostile nature of the state is not going unnoticed. Not only has the Communist Dominion become rash and provoking in its actions, the domestic treatment of its 1.6 Billion inhabitants is far from any ideal of sovereignty. Thus, with the Dominion's disgusting treatment of its own people, we are not surprised that it would arise to such a barbaric act of executing innocent foreign nationals.
We most firmly request that Stoklomolvi halts any such action immediately, and continues to attempt to resolve this situation through diplomatic means. Should this message go unanswered to, or our demands are refused, a full economic embargo is to be placed upon Stoklomolvi immediately.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of New Pictavia,
Councillor of The Silver Imperium.
Stoklomolvi
07-02-2008, 03:32
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hemegony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Minimum Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: Second Akimonadi Proposal

Stoklomolvi will hand over the Binarian citizens, though it will do so only because if it does not then the citizens would have been booted out of the country at any rate.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi

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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hemegony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 5, Maximum Encryption
To: Nova Pictavia
Subject: Embargo Threat

Stoklomolvi does not care what the "Silver Imperium" thinks of its foreign policy. We have deported all Binarian citizens to Binaria or Akimonad, and there shall be no bloodshed today. However, treating foreign nationals of a hostile nation is very different from the treatment of its own citizens as well as foreign nationals of neutral and allied nations. We would have thought you would know better, Kadesh.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Nova Pictavia
07-02-2008, 03:34
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Imperial Communiqué

To The Communist Dominion of Stoklomolvi:

I'm afraid you were not asked for your thoughts on Imperial foreign policy.
Nevertheless, we are pleased you have chosen to comply with the safe return of all Binarian citizens.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of New Pictavia,
Councillor of The Silver Imperium.
Stoklomolvi
07-02-2008, 03:42
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hemegony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 5, Maximum Encryption
To: Nova Pictavia
Subject: RE: RE: Embargo Threat

We never commented on YOUR foreign policy. We couldn't care less.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Intracircumcordei
07-02-2008, 04:04
Flashing across the bottom of the the screen proppelled in 3d via the trividsion media stream....

LIVE......... LIVE ........ LIVE...

It jumped out at Aethel " ...

on the screen was what appeared to be a public mob rioting... in the international trade area just outside the docks of Lacus Prae.. what seemed like few 10's of thousands in the process of moshing crew members off a boat .. as the helicopter filmed in overflight... with close up zoom reveiling the mosh... with crew being peeled off the boat...

Gruff tone
"This is an amazing scene, sparked 30 minutes ago when the contraversial anti communist address of Akimonad was denounced by radical socialist Bishop Haostha.. those hearing his address at the Patridrome were infuriated.. the call to boycott goods.. took immediate action as a legion sized mass attacked the shipping vesel Doslot a merchant carrier flying the flag of Akimonad... ... crew members were... riot control police were called in immediately upon the distress calls to the dockmaster.... and the coast gaurd quardened off the area..."

water cannons can be seen in use around the edge of the dock with hundreds unconcious due to knock out gases...

it is beleived that the megalopolis in part via instant PDP messaging called out more supporters..and started battling with the riot police....

... a slightly shakey image appears.. one one of the crew who is being literally ripped apart by the mass.. hair mostly pulled what appears to be mulitple cuts and bruises with people throwing fists into the body...

along the edge you could see Military APC's cording off the streets around the area.. loud speakers could only vaugely be heard over the helicopter flying 50+ ft in the air...

then three black helicopters could be seen approaching the news copter....

"we've just been informed we need to vacate the area..." more on this from the ground...

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The World Soviet Party
07-02-2008, 05:27
The World Soviet Party, being one of the most important and representative nations of the socialist bloc, has declined to comment on the actions taken by both Akimonad and it's communist's foes.

Instead, it has been decided that a large box filled with pornographic materials and kleenex to last a whole month be sent to each nation taking part in these incidents.
Toori
07-02-2008, 07:02
UNOFFICIAL TOORIAN RESPONCE TO
PROTOCOL 77
_________________________________________________________________

"Fuck yeah!"



-Fleetmaster McBride-
High Consulate
The Armed Republic of Toori
Yanitaria
07-02-2008, 20:46
Snip

OOC: Fun fact: 1/5 of Americans (adults and children) believe that the sun revolves around the earth, and 1/2 (I believe) can't find America on a map.

I'll quote sources when I get home, I have them saved somewhere in a txt

Edit:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/science/30profile.html

Also, it's One in five Americans that cannot find the US on a map. That's worse than the UK, because these kinds can't even find their own nation

Snip

Open Diplomatic Communique:

We (belatedly) thank Stoklomolvi for their support (sorry for the short post, bell just rang)

Snip

Gotta respond to this, but the bell just rang.
Yanitaria
07-02-2008, 23:37
Protests Continue Unabated

Kent, Akimonad - For the second day in a row, protesters have been pouring into Kent to protest Yanitarian actions. In addition, they have added Stoklomolvi to their repertoire, for their apparent threats to execute anti-communists.

Though the Yanitarian president met the protesters' demands for an apology, the protests continue in spite of this, with demonstrators decry the alliance between Yanitaria and Stoklomolvi, the New Oslo Pact, the "Axis of Evil". They continue to push for preemptive military action against the two countries.

Protests began to turn unruly, with the mob throwing rocks at the building that houses the headquarters of the Akimonad Defence Forces. The building shrugged off the impacts.

The escalation in protesting has been caused by a "leaked" communique sent from Stoklomolvi to Akimonad wherein they defied Akimonad's demands to cease and desist with their actions and intentions.

Following constant demands, Dr. Jules Hodz scheduled a press conference and commented on the matters.

"We will allow these protests to continue, as stated before. I also believe that this may show a thing or two to the stubborn government of Stoklomolvi. Thankfully, Akimonad is not so barbarous in its domestic and foreign relations."

Protesters continue to call for actions.

OOC: Okay, now that I am back home,

Half the nations in the New Oslo Pact are capitalist. Actually, since Kabavian joined, it's 3 capitalist and 2 communist. And if Oily decides to join (haven't gotten an official answer yet), since he recently dropped communism, it'd be 4 to 2.

TG for you, Aki.
Dutch-Ruled Benelux
07-02-2008, 23:40
OOC: Fun fact: 1/5 of Americans (adults and children) believe that the sun revolves around the earth, and 1/2 (I believe) can't find America on a map.

Sorry, I was reading this for no real reason and noticed this.

It's because all they can find is USA!
Akimonad
07-02-2008, 23:53
Half the nations in the New Oslo Pact are capitalist. Actually, since Kabavian joined, it's 3 capitalist and 2 communist. And if Oily decides to join (haven't gotten an official answer yet), since he recently dropped communism, it'd be 4 to 2.

That's not what the government told the people. :p

TG for you, Aki.

Responded.
Yanitaria
08-02-2008, 00:21
Snip

The NOP has a website ICly, with the charter posted, and the list of memeber nations as well.
Nova Pictavia
08-02-2008, 19:14
Pictish tourists and non-commercial/diplomatic/essential personnel evacuated from Stoklomolvi. Travel to NOP states not advised (Link to the story on the Imperial News Feed). (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13433102&postcount=6)
Stoklomolvi
09-02-2008, 00:51
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hemegony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Minimum Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: Evacuation of Pictish Personnel

Stoklomolvi has closed its borders to the "SILVER IMPERIUM". No person from the "SILVER IMPERIUM" will be allowed to enter or exit Stoklomolvi. Diplomatic personnel are included. However, no innocent citizen will be harmed.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Yanitaria
09-02-2008, 01:10
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The United Socialist States of Yanitaria is recalling all citizens visiting New Pictavia back to our shores. Furthermore, travel to New Pictavia is extremely discouraged. All Pictish citizens will be deported immediately, after being searched.
Akimonad
09-02-2008, 03:29
AMS Leicester, docked in Ytterbograd Harbor

The Type 73 Battlecruiser Leicester sat motionless in the port, most of its crew asleep or on shore for some merriment and frivolity. The crew that remained awake was performing menial tasks, straightening up, mopping floors, swabbing decks, things like that. They were not concerned.

After all, why would they be? It's not as if something horrible could happen. They were in port, so they're shouldn't be any danger.

Of course, they were mistaken, and would be caught off guard.

Underneath the waves, divers stirred, attaching limpet mines to the hull of the ship. Once finished, making sure there were enough to penetrate the hull and hopefully blow the magazines, they surfaced and climbed into a small boat nearby, covered by darkness. They sped away towards the other side of the port.

The crewmembers were not particularly worried by the sound of an engine; this was a harbor, and people came and went.

"Say," one of the crewmembers said to another, leaning on his mop, "why are we in a harbor? Shouldn't we be in a naval base?"

"I suppose so," the other seaman said, "but I think they said this was a quick stop and we're not meant to be here for long. We're supposed to be picking up something or other. I forget. I'm too tired."

With that, they continued to clean the deck of the ship, unaware of what was to come.

At the other end of the harbor, the divers climbed out of the boat and onto a dock. One of them reached for a remote, and pressed the button...

On the AMS Leicester, a spectacular fireball formed, engulfing the ship. Six holes were immediately punched in the hull, rocking the ship. Chards of metal tore through the magazines, causing most to detonate, tearing tremendous holes through the deck and keel. The ship, now disabled, and engulfed in flame, began to sink quickly. Flaming metal chards rained down on the docks and fixtures surrounding the hulk of the ship.

One man, the sole survivor, lay on the ground, blown away from the ship by the force of the explosions. He was unconscious, and bleeding.

After a few moments, fire engines arrived, spraying everything down with copious amounts of water and foam.

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Reprinted from the Kent Tribune, 8 February 73 ACD

Battlecruiser explodes in harbor

Ytterbograd, Akimonad - The Type 73 Battlecruiser Leicester exploded in Ytterbograd harbor around 11:30 PM last night. Witnesses say the ship was engulfed by flame then subsequently exploded, showering debris across the harbor surrounding. Following the explosion, the ship quickly sank in place, where it is believe all but one crewman drowned or was killed.

Navy officials are investigating, and the area has been blocked off. A statement was released, in which the Navy states that some kind of sabotage is suspected. They also indicated a discovery of a small inflatable boat in the harbor, unregistered, and containing "suspicious devices".

Protesters in Kent, now well into their fourth day of picketing, were quick to point the blame at the communist countries of Yanitaria and Stoklomolvi, and calling for immediate retaliation.

Dr. Hodz and the government have not released statements yet, though insiders inform the Tribune that plans for war are in the works.
Stoklomolvi
09-02-2008, 04:10
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hemegony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Minimum Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: RE: Battlecruiser explodes in harbour

Stoklomolvi denies any involvement in the recent battlecruiser incident, and has stated that this is likely but a ruse to draw Akimonad, Yanitaria, and Stoklomolvi into a war between capitalists and communists. Stoklomolvi declares that any aggressive movement between Akimonad and Stoklomolvi will not be coming from Stoklomolvi. However, the Commissar wonders, how much trust can one put in a non-state owned newspaper? Bias, he said, can distort the truth to the point of failure.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Nova Pictavia
11-02-2008, 00:26
Another news article (read carefully, it's a tactical response, not a preparation to invade). (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13439170&postcount=8)

And another here, this time concerning the destruction of the Akimonadi Battlecruiser. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13439584&postcount=9)
Yanitaria
11-02-2008, 05:17
OOC: Your news thing is mistaken, NP. Beatus, who has reaffirmed that he is a member of the NOP, and Surailia didn't do jack.

Also, watch out of a post I am gonna make today or tomorrow (I'll tg you the link when I can be arsed to start it) announcing the coronation of King Norheim II, and the begining of the United Royal Provinces of Yanitaria. It's immediately after the coronation that he will ask you and Stok to come to the negotiating table, should Kadesh come.
Errikland
11-02-2008, 05:30
OOC: Hmm, conundrum;this may result in some conflict. Ideologically, the Empire would be 100% in Akimonad's camp, particularly with Quester's backing. In politics, we are very friendly with Yanitaria, though they are also historically great admirers of Questers. Problematic.
Stoklomolvi
11-02-2008, 05:41
[OOC: Sigh...oh by the way, if this is going to become a nucular wankfest, then I am not going to participate.]
Errikland
11-02-2008, 05:51
[OOC: Sigh...oh by the way, if this is going to become a nucular wankfest, then I am not going to participate.]

OOC: Why? Everyone loves nuclear wankfests. That is why they are now actively seeking one, right?
Shazbotdom
11-02-2008, 05:54
OOC:
*pulls out nuclear wankfest/penis ruler*
Here's the official ruler. Who wants to go first? I'll look away.
Stoklomolvi
11-02-2008, 05:55
[OOC: Wankfests by themselves are just..."argh"; nuclear wankfests are just..."AARGH!" Unless this is going to be structured throughout, then count me out. Hey, that "rhymed"?]
Errikland
11-02-2008, 06:04
[OOC: Wankfests by themselves are just..."argh"; nuclear wankfests are just..."AARGH!" Unless this is going to be structured throughout, then count me out. Hey, that "rhymed"?]

OOC: Ah, rhymes, classic. Still, I am a bit more optimistic that this could either just be an interesting political squabble or it will go on to the continuation of politics through other means in a professional and organized manner.
Yanitaria
11-02-2008, 06:25
OOC: Ah, rhymes, classic. Still, I am a bit more optimistic that this could either just be an interesting political squabble or it will go on to the continuation of politics through other means in a professional and organized manner.

OOC: I am less than enthusiastic about RPing an ideological war, mostly because nations tend to get so hypocritical.
Errikland
11-02-2008, 06:35
OOC: I am less than enthusiastic about RPing an ideological war, mostly because nations tend to get so hypocritical.

OOC: If they are merely IC hypocritical, it can get deliciously realistic, with character conflict of interests and deep moral struggles in times of strife. I don't care who you are, that's interesting right there. But when they are ideologically devoted IRL, it is far from uncommon for people who would otherwise be fine to have difficulty separating OOC and IC.
Yanitaria
11-02-2008, 06:40
OOC: If they are merely IC hypocritical, it can get deliciously realistic, with character conflict of interests and deep moral struggles in times of strife. I don't care who you are, that's interesting right there. But when they are ideologically devoted IRL, it is far from uncommon for people who would otherwise be fine to have difficulty separating OOC and IC.

OOC: It would be fine, if it was just IC, but it rarely ever is.

[OOC: I'm not even truly communist OOC; few people really are. I just RP a communistic nation for the hell of doing it; nobody likes communist nations, so why not? Apparently, though, from the start many thought I was a Russian communist sympathiser...]

OOC: I was a communist once, but now I am a democratic socialist. My family lived in a socialist nation once, and it's generally the political system, not the economic system, that is ghey.
Stoklomolvi
11-02-2008, 06:41
[OOC: I'm not even truly communist OOC; few people really are. I just RP a communistic nation for the hell of doing it; nobody likes communist nations, so why not? Apparently, though, from the start many thought I was a Russian communist sympathiser...]
Errikland
11-02-2008, 06:48
[OOC: I'm not even truly communist OOC; few people really are. I just RP a communistic nation for the hell of doing it; nobody likes communist nations, so why not? Apparently, though, from the start many thought I was a Russian communist sympathiser...]

OOC: Well you obviously are, you dirty Bolshevik rat. Go die. :p Seriously, though, that is a good point.
Stoklomolvi
11-02-2008, 06:59
[OOC: I like power. :p And no, not electricity, though that's important too. I'm more of a communist capitalist dictatorial democratic figure, however the hell that works. Okay, enough rambling, clashing ideologies equals anger, yadda yadda yadda, anger boils into protests and riots, protests and riots boils into war, etc. It's not that bad. However, a nuclear wankfest is ARGH!]
Errikland
11-02-2008, 07:03
[OOC: I like power. :p And no, not electricity, though that's important too. I'm more of a communist capitalist dictatorial democratic figure, however the hell that works. Okay, enough rambling, clashing ideologies equals anger, yadda yadda yadda, anger boils into protests and riots, protests and riots boils into war, etc. It's not that bad. However, a nuclear wankfest is ARGH!]

OOC: Agreed. *raises glass* Now let's stop clogging this thread and get back to the subject at hand.
Akimonad
12-02-2008, 01:45
Excerpt for Address to the Nation, 10 February ACD

"Two days ago, the battlecruiser Leicester was sunk. So far, this has shown to be an act of terrorism and sabotage against our great nation. While the investigation continues, there is little doubt that this cowardly act was carried out by communist sympathizers.

"Moreover, protests have begin in Stoklomolvi against Akimonad. What is interesting is the apparent violent nature of these protests, compared to the peaceful protests that continue here. I believe this just shows the utter disorder communism causes.

"I believe it is now our duty to remove communism from the nations of Yanitaria and Stoklomolvi. I have therefore ordered a general alert for all armed forces. We shall not tolerate further belligerence from these two troublesome nations."
Errikland
12-02-2008, 02:31
Excerpt for Address to the Nation, 10 February ACD

"Two days ago, the battlecruiser Leicester was sunk. So far, this has shown to be an act of terrorism and sabotage against our great nation. While the investigation continues, there is little doubt that this cowardly act was carried out by communist sympathizers.

"Moreover, protests have begin in Stoklomolvi against Akimonad. What is interesting is the apparent violent nature of these protests, compared to the peaceful protests that continue here. I believe this just shows the utter disorder communism causes.

"I believe it is now our duty to remove communism from the nations of Yanitaria and Stoklomolvi. I have therefore ordered a general alert for all armed forces. We shall not tolerate further belligerence from these two troublesome nations."

Closed Message
To: Akimonad
From: The Errikan Empire

Greetings! The Empire entirely shares your own view on the cancer of civilization that is bolshevism; however, we must discourage your current course of action. The nations of Yanitaria and Stoklomolvi have not acted thus against you, and action against them, so as to purge their socialism, is unwarranted. Perhaps you should seek to align yourself peacefully with like minded nations to prevent the spread of their plague, and respect their sovereignty. After all, if we abandon respect for sovereignty, we are approaching the level of the bolsheviks whom we so object to.
Nova Pictavia
12-02-2008, 13:33
OOC: Your news thing is mistaken, NP. Beatus, who has reaffirmed that he is a member of the NOP, and Surailia didn't do jack.

We would classify The Beatus as an inactive member, as since the civil war they haven't done anything. Also, I don't recognize Surailia's existence as he's left the region and I wouldn't RP with him. Either way, Yanitaria and Stoklomolvi are the heavy hitters and make up the majority of the alliance.

OOC: Why? Everyone loves nuclear wankfests. That is why they are now actively seeking one, right?

Erm, this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13428415&postcount=4) was posted a week ago. Please ask before accusing of trying to start a "nuclear wankfest".
Also, to be honest, the page of ideological discussion wasn't really necessary.

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Imperial Communiqué

Open Declaration:
Following the increasingly aggressive international policy from the two NOP states, New Pictavia sees fit to deem the nations of Yanitaria and Stoklomolvi as a threat to the realm. The NOP is nothing more than an international conglomerate of war-mongers seeking to destabilize the fragile politik of Europa Atlantica. As such, any resistance to an Akimonadi freedom-force inserted to restore peaceful relations to the region would be deemed as unfavourable. Action will be taken by New Pictavia in due course.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of New Pictavia,
Councillor of The Silver Imperium.
Stoklomolvi
13-02-2008, 01:28
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hemegony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Minimum Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: Pictish Statement

Stoklomolvi has taken no aggressive international policies; where is your evidence? Protests in our nation against Akimonad and the "SILVER IMPERIUM" have been suppressed, and yet you continue to beleaguer us? We will not allow Akimonadi "peacekeepers", so-called, to enter our nation.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
1010102
13-02-2008, 01:36
To:Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
From:Binarian State Department


If you refuse the Akimonadi peacekeepers,then would you consider a neutral to take up the role? The Binarian people would glady do the job.
Stoklomolvi
13-02-2008, 01:45
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Stoklomolvi Secretariat of State
7656 Hemegony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 5, Maximum Encryption
Binarian State Department
To: Binaria
Subject: Peacekeepers

We refuse to accept peacekeepers from any nation. Why do we need peacekeepers? We have the right to our sovereignty, and we must boast that we do have a large and well organised police force. We can maintain order in our own nation.

Regards,
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Grigor Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
Civilian Management
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Signed,
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Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich
The Commissar of Stoklomolvi
Nosorepazzau
13-02-2008, 01:49
Nosorepazzau is not pleased to hear about Pictavia and Akimad trying to force Stoklomovi to allow these so called "Peacekeeping forces" into its territory.Stoklomovi has done no hostile acts to deserve this treatment.As one of Pictavia's sisters in the Silver Imperium we ask the Pictavians to stop this aggresive policy.As for Akimadi,it is the cause of all this hysteria.We believe they are trying to start a communist-capitalist war.We will not allow Akimadi to land any forces.




Icail va Ozzanil,Premier of the USSN,1st Prophet of Vavakass
Nova Pictavia
13-02-2008, 02:16
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Imperial Communiqué

Open Declaration:
New Pictavia wishes to highlight that Stoklomolvi proceeded to expel all Pictish citizens from its borders, including all diplomatic and commercial personnel. The closure of borders forms a trade embargo enacted by the Communist Dominion against the Silver Imperium, instigating an economic war and thus interpreted as an act of rash and aggressive action. Furthermore, Stoklomolvi has made clear that it shall do as it pleases with those within its own borders, including foreign citizens. Yanitaria soon followed suit, raising suspicion that such an action was predetermined by both parties as a prelude to war. Finally, we never once mentioned "peackeepers", and the demonyms of Pictavia and Akimonad are Pictish and Akimonadi respectively.

Stoklomolvi and Yanitaria remain a unified threat against New Pictavia within Europa Atlantica, intent on destabilizing the region through the whims of their leaders. It is no secret that Stoklomolvi, and thus the NOP, is anti-Pictish and would spark a war over an irrational vendetta.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of New Pictavia,
Councillor of The Silver Imperium.
The Beatus
13-02-2008, 02:31
Official Government Statement

The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus, must protest to an attempt to forcibly change the regime currently in place within the Communist Dominion of Stoklomolvi, and further more must protest to the Pictish assertion that we are, "war-mongers seeking to destabilize the fragile politik of Europa Atlantica," as we have done nothing to be labeled as such. We also wish to call for peace talks between diplomats from Nova Pictavia, Akimonad, Stoklomolvi, and Yanitaria. Hopefully we can resolve this peacefully. If not, we shall side with our ally, as they have done nothing wrong, and are being threatened by others.

Signed,
Jim Lange,
President,
The Theocratic Republic of the Beatus
Nosorepazzau
13-02-2008, 02:40
I'm glad you've cleared this situation up,Mr.Kadesh.I would like to apologize to your people.It's just that the new Akimadi policy has greatly angered my people,who are devout socialists.Nosorepazzau will now be more neutral with Pictish policy on this matter.Our government still does not support an invasion of the Communist Dominion We should leave Akimadi to rot,as nations of the Silver Imperium we should have our own policies.The Akimadi are scum.
Akimonad
13-02-2008, 02:41
OOC: Okay, let's back up a bit. What I wrote was this:

"I believe it is now our duty to remove communism from the nations of Yanitaria and Stoklomolvi. I have therefore ordered a general alert for all armed forces. We shall not tolerate further belligerence from these two troublesome nations."

As you can plainly see, there are no mentions of peacekeepers, nor any explicit threats of war, depending on how you interpret it.

Number two: This is a planned war that will be happening, and unless your name is Yanitaria, Stoklomolvi, Orbath or Nova Pictavia you'd do well to not bother yourself with it.

That said, this thread it officially CLOSED.
Nova Pictavia
13-02-2008, 02:43
OOC: Did anyone read my last post? Neither me or Aki has said that Akimonad will be placing a peace-keeping force in Stoklomolvi! I said "Freedom-Force" in comment to a possible invasion force, however that has completely different parameters from that of "peacekeeping". Beatus, you wrote "as we have done nothing to be labelled as such" directly after I gave evidence for Stok destabilizing international politik.
The Beatus
13-02-2008, 02:47
OOC: Okay, let's back up a bit. What I wrote was this:



As you can plainly see, there are no mentions of peacekeepers, nor any explicit threats of war, depending on how you interpret it.

Number two: This is a planned war that will be happening, and unless your name is Yanitaria, Stoklomolvi, Orbath or Nova Pictavia you'd do well to not bother yourself with it.

That said, this thread it officially CLOSED.

[OOC:
I can't really do that, for three reasons,
1.)Stoklomolvi is a very close ally,
2.)I have troops in Stoklomolvi
3.)And there are Beatusian Citizens in Stoklomolvi, who's safety the Beatus would need to ensure.]
Akimonad
13-02-2008, 02:49
[OOC:
I can't really do that, for three reasons,
1.)Stoklomolvi is a very close ally,
2.)I have troops in Stoklomolvi
3.)And there are Beatusian Citizens in Stoklomolvi, who's safety the Beatus would need to ensure.]

OOC:
1) So? It's closed.
2) So? It's closed.
3) So? There are foreign citizens in every nation.
The Beatus
13-02-2008, 02:49
OOC: Did anyone read my last post? Neither me or Aki has said that Akimonad will be placing a peace-keeping force in Stoklomolvi! I said "Freedom-Force" in comment to a possible invasion force, however that has completely different parameters from that of "peacekeeping". Beatus, you wrote "as we have done nothing to be labelled as such" directly after I gave evidence for Stok destabilizing international politik.

[OOC: The Beatus has do nothing to be labeled as such, is what I meant by we.]
Nova Pictavia
13-02-2008, 02:50
[OOC:
I can't really do that, for three reasons,
1.)Stoklomolvi is a very close ally,
2.)I have troops in Stoklomolvi
3.)And there are Beatusian Citizens in Stoklomolvi, who's safety the Beatus would need to ensure.]

Sorry mate, but you'll have to. Yani chose Orbath as a third ally instead. As I understand it, its Aki and me against Yani, Stok and Orbath. If we were bringing every IC mutual protection pact or alliance this would include half of NS, undoubtedly. Oh, and The Beatus was enduring a civil war not so long ago, thus not considered an active NOP member by Pictavia.
The World Soviet Party
13-02-2008, 02:52
OOC: Well, my mistake then, the thread should have a label saying it's "Closed", instead, it has one that says "Open".

As I said, my bad, I'll proceed to delete my post.
Akimonad
13-02-2008, 02:55
OOC: Well, my mistake then, the thread should have a label saying it's "Closed", instead, it has one that says "Open".

*sighs*

That was BEFORE the war was planned.
The Beatus
13-02-2008, 02:57
Sorry mate, but you'll have to. Yani chose Orbath as a third ally instead. As I understand it, its Aki and me against Yani, Stok and Orbath. If we were bringing every IC mutual protection pact or alliance this would include half of NS, undoubtedly. Oh, and The Beatus was enduring a civil war not so long ago, thus not considered an active NOP member by Pictavia.

[OOC: I'll stay out of this, but I have bases in Stoklomolvi, and as your not at war with me, and I'm not allowed to intervene, they will be there after this is over, and any other Beatusian holdings shall remain intact.]
Nosorepazzau
13-02-2008, 03:32
(OCC:Well I'll have to go delete all my posts,Sorry Aki and Pic.I didn't mean to intrude.)
Akimonad
13-02-2008, 14:28
New thread here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13446877) (IC) and here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13446879) (OOC).
Stoklomolvi
14-02-2008, 00:06
[OOC: Planned? I never planned anything with anybody. If the Beatus isn't involved, this is screwing everything over. He was my first ally, and I have very close ties with him. Also, every IC pact would mean five nations for me. Look in my Link Repositorium for more information.]
Nova Pictavia
14-02-2008, 02:15
[OOC: Planned? I never planned anything with anybody. If the Beatus isn't involved, this is screwing everything over. He was my first ally, and I have very close ties with him. Also, every IC pact would mean five nations for me. Look in my Link Repositorium for more information.]

Okay, well then talk to Yani. He made it clear he wanted Orbath to Aki for whatever reason, tipping the sides to three versus two. Secondly, if you really want to include every IC alliance et cetera, you'd have the QC and SI among others on your plate. Smaller, limited sides make for an infinitely better RP in my opinion. This is the reason that I have never taken part in an RP where sides weren't discussed and closed beforehand. Perhaps it's just me, but I think that's pretty fair and isn't really "screwing everything over" for you. If anything, it's handicapping us.
Akimonad
14-02-2008, 03:03
[OOC: Planned? I never planned anything with anybody. If the Beatus isn't involved, this is screwing everything over. He was my first ally, and I have very close ties with him. Also, every IC pact would mean five nations for me. Look in my Link Repositorium for more information.]

I was under the impression you had been told and thus I didn't need to tell you personally. Apparently I was wrong.

That said, you need not partake if you don't want to, given the new circumstances.
Stoklomolvi
14-02-2008, 03:13
[OOC: I'm participating, only I didn't have anything to say in the IC thread, so I left it at that. Told about what, though?]
Theoroshia
14-02-2008, 03:16
OFFICIAL RESPONSE
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To the Government of Akimonad;


Your recent declaration of condemning and suppressing true socialism is disturbing, as is your readiness to believe that all socialist states are corrupt and immoral. Were it not for the fact that we are good comrades from the time of E.V.I.L., we probably would have had to uphold our name using any means necessary.

However, because of that friendship, the Socialist Federal Empire has no official stance other than that of disapproval. Hopefully you will see the error in judgment that you have made and retract, or at least edit, your declaration.

A close comrade;
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Premier of the Socialist Federal Empire
Errikland
14-02-2008, 05:59
[snip]Erm, this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13428415&postcount=4) was posted a week ago. Please ask before accusing of trying to start a "nuclear wankfest".
Also, to be honest, the page of ideological discussion wasn't really necessary.[snip]

OOC: I wasn't honestly accusing anyone of honestly pursuing it, I was merely joking; on the latter note, though you are right.
With the recent declaration of closing, this is to be my last post in this thread. Good luck, people.
Liberavic
14-02-2008, 09:44
***FROM THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE USSL***

PULBLICLY RELEASED DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE

It is with great concern that I read your nation's denouncement of communism and believe that the utter denouncement of the most free and fair system of government of them all. Whilst the USSL is not a full communist state, it is a Socialist democracy, it is paramount that the egalitarian systems such as Socialism and Communism and upheld and held in high regard by the international community.

It frankly smacks of utter hypocrisy that a government of the right of centre could possibly denounce any system as corrupt as it is widely known that right wing politics is the scurge and disease of this world.

Solidarity and Comradeship,

President Tobias Wilson
Yanitaria
15-02-2008, 01:14
Okay, well then talk to Yani. He made it clear he wanted Orbath to Aki for whatever reason, tipping the sides to three versus two. Secondly, if you really want to include every IC alliance et cetera, you'd have the QC and SI among others on your plate. Smaller, limited sides make for an infinitely better RP in my opinion. This is the reason that I have never taken part in an RP where sides weren't discussed and closed beforehand. Perhaps it's just me, but I think that's pretty fair and isn't really "screwing everything over" for you. If anything, it's handicapping us.

You are the size of Stok, and Aki is double. This way we are about the same in size.

[OOC: I'm participating, only I didn't have anything to say in the IC thread, so I left it at that. Told about what, though?]

He means told about Orbath being the other ally. I did say that Orbath would be fighting with us, and Beatus said he wasn't going to do much more than logistics and policing, so it really doesn't matter.

We can discuss this further on the NOP board.
Nova Pictavia
15-02-2008, 01:44
Actually Stoklomolvi is a wee bit larger, and Akimonad and I (Aki in particular) can't just send all of our armed forces, as the sheer logistical costs involved would likely bankrupt us. As such, having a larger population really doesn't make you any worse off at all as you'd still be more likely to have numeric superiority.
Stoklomolvi
15-02-2008, 01:59
What surprised me is that Aki sent only 300,000 men. 300,000 isn't going to get you anywhere; police alone number around 150 million by now, not to mention partisans and militia.
Yanitaria
15-02-2008, 02:03
Actually Stoklomolvi is a wee bit larger, and Akimonad and I (Aki in particular) can't just send all of our armed forces, as the sheer logistical costs involved would likely bankrupt us. As such, having a larger population really doesn't make you any worse off at all as you'd still be more likely to have numeric superiority.

A country can spare about 25% of it's armed forces total, including foreign bases. Any more and your nation is wide open for attack, and your economy is shot.