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In this alternate history thread, there will be a large area of landmass of which you can stake a claim to terretory, the nations in this thread are not real life nations, but have the same area, land and forces etc. this is entirely coincidental.

There are several main armies for you to pick from;

You are not acting these forces, you are simply using their forces and land.


Team 1;(coincidently resembelling the allies of WWII)

-Poland

-United Kingdom

-France


Team 2; (resembelling the attackers of Poland)

-Germany

-Soviet Union

-Slovakia

I will pick first, I will be Poland,

I have;

Army:
39 Divisions
16 Brigades
4,300 Guns
880 Tanks
400 Aircraft


Navy:
5 Submarines
6 small Minesweepers
4 Destroyers
1 large Minelayer
1 Artillery training ship
2 Gunboats


Air Force:
5 Bomber Squadrons
2 Fighter Squadrons

Tell me who you want to be if you are interested, and if there are no forces left, you can pick a country to play as and I will tell you your force strengh.

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Please note that alternate history threads are not allowed on International Incidents: please read the stickies at the top of this forum before continuing. Note that one of the has a very large title "PLEASE READ: Concerning Alternate History Threads."

I have read it, and you cannot Role PLay real life characters etc. and were not doing that, this is a thread where players are using the forces and land etc. of the country concerned, they are not RPing as the country/ruler.

I don't believe that: you have the teams "co-incidentally" named after the main players of the 2nd world war in this, using the armies of the countries, the landmass of the countries... generally actually playing the countries. And if the title "Alternate History Thread" doesn't give it away...

I don't believe that: you have the teams "co-incidentally" named after the main players of the 2nd world war in this, using the armies of the countries, the landmass of the countries... generally actually playing the countries. And if the title "Alternate History Thread" doesn't give it away...

I suppose you got me there... But I stand by what I said, its just playing with the nations forces and land, so in the mean time, why not wind down a bit and play the thread?

Can't really, gotta do some work... may think about it later in the day.

OK tell your freinds :)

I will be Germany,

http://www.holocaust-history.org/short-essays/hitler-480.jpg

I have;

Army:
500 Divisions
10 Brigades per Division
3,300,000 (infantry) Guns
3,880 Tanks
10,000 Artillery
4,000 AA guns
800 Luftwaft Aircraft

Navy:
30 U-boat Submarines
25 small Minesweepers
40 Destroyers
5 large Minelayer
10 Artillery training ship
70 Gunboats

Luftwaft (Air Force):
12 Bomber Squadrons
20 Fighter Squadrons
160 Spy Planes

Others
Waffen SS (Schutzstaffel) - 500,000

I will send in 6 bomber squadrons to bomb your military targets. These bomber squadrons will be defended by 5 fighter squadrons.

I will then send in an army of 1,000,000 infantry, 1,000 tanks, 2,500 Artillery and 1,000 AA guns to invade Poland in a blitzkrieg war.

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/50779881.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=A8901846FCF105835EAC5F19D59D0F01284831B75F48EF45

Sorry for the picture of Hitler. I just thought that it was important to emphasize that this war was the idea of one evil person and not the will of the ordinary german people.

I'm sick of waiting for my other post to be checked by a moderator so I will just post the words without the pictures.

I will be Germany,

I have;

Army:
500 Divisions
10 Brigades per Division
3,300,000 (infantry) Guns
3,880 Tanks
10,000 Artillery
4,000 AA guns
800 Luftwaft Aircraft

Navy:
30 U-boat Submarines
25 small Minesweepers
40 Destroyers
5 large Minelayer
10 Artillery training ship
70 Gunboats

Luftwaft (Air Force):
12 Bomber Squadrons
20 Fighter Squadrons
160 Spy Planes

Others
Waffen SS (Schutzstaffel) - 500,000

I will send in 6 bomber squadrons to bomb your military targets. These bomber squadrons will be defended by 5 fighter squadrons.

I will then send in an army of 1,000,000 infantry, 1,000 tanks, 2,500 Artillery and 1,000 AA guns to invade Poland in a blitzkrieg war.

Sorry but u need to follow the orbat for this campaign, the Germans used;

56 divisions
4 brigades
9,000 guns
2,500 tanks
2,315 aircraft

I'm sorry about that. I didn't bother to read your post properly.

How many infantry troops do "56 divisions" and "4 brigades" have in them?

Sorry but u need to follow the orbat for this campaign, the Germans used;

Army:
56 divisions
4 brigades
9,000 guns
2,500 tanks
2,315 aircraft


Navy:
You have the entire German Navy at your disposal.


Air Force:
1200 Fighters
1100 Bombers
300 dive bombers


sorry for any inconvinience

Sorry but u need to follow the orbat for this campaign, the Germans used;

Army:
56 divisions
4 brigades
9,000 guns
2,500 tanks
2,315 aircraft


Navy:
You have the entire German Navy at your disposal.


Air Force:
1200 Fighters
1100 Bombers
300 dive bombers


sorry for any inconvinience

Are the "dive bombers" suicide bombers?

No there like stukas, interesting idea though, its your army, maybe you could order suicide bomber tactics if you want.

No there like stukas, interesting idea though, its your army, maybe you could order suicide bomber tactics if you want.

What are stukas?

OOC: Lets Begin

IC: As the German army massed on the polish border, the order was given for the entrenchment of 15 Polish divisions on the German/Polish border. Along with 400 tanks. with 5000 guns watchingover their positions.

Okay I've looked on wikipedia and I know what dive bombers are.

I will use them to provide air support on the battlefield - thus I will use them to bomb your Polish ground forces while you are fighting my German ground forces.

A bomber that "dives towards the ground at high speed, dropping its bombs onto the enmey, whilst diving they make a loud "whaling noise" and use this to scare the enemy.

Thanks.

What are stukas?

A bomber that "dives towards the ground at high speed, dropping its bombs onto the enmey, whilst diving they make a loud "whaling noise" and use this to scare the enemy.

OOC: First I will do some bombing raids.

IC: I will use some spy planes to find specified Polish military targets and to assess your anti-aircraft defence capabilities.

IC: I will then send a total of 600 bombers to bomb Polish military bases and airfields. These bombers will be protected by 300 fighters.

(I seldom do role play so please comment on my use of OOC/IC role playing terms.)

The Polish villages on the border are all evacuated and the citizens are sent to the city, the area from the border to warsaw is put under martial law.

IC means you are IN CHARACTER, you are the chracter in the thread, OOC means OUT OF CHARACTER, you are yourself in the real world. You seem to be getting the hang of it.

The Polish villages on the border are all evacuated and the citizens are sent to the city, the area from the border to warsaw is put under martial law.

IC: The geman troops will take over these villages when they arrive and will use some of the houses for storing supplies. Other houses will be used as temporary barracks and other houses will be converted into medical units for troops injured on the battlefield.

The entrenched polish forces put up a feirce resistance agianst the german forces but end up being pushed out the villages, they send 2 cavalry regiments on the counter attack into the german lines.

The cavalry sweeps down from the hills and crushes the german infantry under their hoofs, as they kick up the dust and stain the thirsty ground with blood, all was going well until they came across the german tanks.

IC: Some of my German divisons have been tranported to Prussia by sea and are getting ready to advance on Warsaw from the north.

OOC: Can I talk about other historical events such as the resettlement of German jews to Poland? (Not the holocaust of course as that only happened later on in 1942-45.)

OOC: we are now in real time, describe things as they happen.

i am joining as france.

what are my forces?

excellent so can i just say any old random stuff lol?

OOC: And yeah of course you can.

At the end of every month we will advance 1 year.

You guys know that you're not allowed to do that

i am joining as france.

Good, you have the French Foreign Legion under your command, your reamining forces are left in france in case of a german attack.

You guys know that you're not allowed to do that

Read all the first few posts and you will see why this has taken advantage of several loopholes

ok then will do

A link to a good map to help everybody follow what is going on with the invasion of Poland.

http://biega.com/museumAK/poland40.jpg

The cavalry, knowing they cannot defeat tanks, dismount their horses and head for cover, they then call in reinforcements in the form of their own tanks, soon a battalion of polish tanks have arrived and are locked in feirce combat with the german armour.

Ok i'll join i'll be the USSR

The cavalry, knowing they cannot defeat tanks, dismount their horses and head for cover, they then call in reinforcements in the form of their own tanks, soon a battalion of polish tanks have arrived and are locked in feirce combat with the german armour.

IC: The Germans call in air support to help in the battle and soon about 10-20 dive bombers are helping to bombard the polish tanks from above.

(100 dive bombers in total have been allocated for the war with Poland.)

IC: 200 German tanks and 8 infantry divisions with artillery are now crossing from Prussia into Poland's northern territory.

the french froeighn legion launch a counter attack for the side on the german forces coming from prussia. they come in the form of 3 companies

ooc: Is there any chance I could RP as just the Polish Air Force? I have extensive knowledge of it's aircraft and tactics and it would be interesting to play.

Polish Fighters move in to intercept the dive bombers and soon a large battle is raging above the feild, vapor trails stain the sky, the tanks still blasting muddy holes in the earth...

ooc: Is there any chance I could RP as just the Polish Air Force? I have extensive knowledge of it's aircraft and tactics and it would be interesting to play.

Ye u can take over the air force, i command the army and navy.

Polish Fighters move in to intercept the dive bombers and soon a large battle is raging above the feild, vapor trails stain the sky, the tanks still blasting muddy holes in the earth...

OOC: Glad to hear it, Can I edit this post?

Ok i'll join i'll be the USSR

33 divisions
11 brigades
4,959 guns
4,736 tanks
3,300 aircraft

IC: I have also sent 15 infantry divisons with 1,000 tanks and 2,000 guns to cover the Rhineland region just in case of a French invasion.

(The Rhineland is a part of Germany that borders with France.)

Another 200 tanks are deployed to the east alongside 4 divisions and 200 guns and entrench deep into the ground,

OOC: Glad to hear it, Can I edit this post?

uh-hu

IC: I have also sent 15 infantry divisons with 1,000 tanks and 2,000 guns to cover the Rhineland region just in case of a French invasion.

(The Rhineland is a part of Germany that borders with France.)

you have no limit to homeland troops, the limit was on ur invasion force.

Polish Fighters move in to intercept the dive bombers and soon a large battle is raging above the feild, vapor trails stain the sky, the tanks still blasting muddy holes in the earth...

OOC: Ignore this post, instead

IC:

Flying several hundred feet above the Dive Bombers and their escort, were eight PZL. P11's of Army Poznan's no.131 Squadron. The small fighter may have been slower and packing less firepower than the Me109 but it was far more manourverable, thanks to it's gull wing design and it could a lot of punishment before being destroyed.

Taking advantage of the oppurtunity, three of the P.11's broke formation and dived on the Stuka's formation, firing in bursts aheasd of the Dive bombers before pulling out of the way. The others dived on the fighter escort, pulling up behind them and firing small bursts from their twin machine guns before turning away for another attack.

Another 200 tanks are deployed to the east alongside 4 divisions and 200 guns and entrench deep into the ground,

The USSR sends 500 bombers and fighters to attack Polands eastern defences. Polish forces are displaced by the strafing so the USSR commits 736 tanks, 959 guns, 5 divisions and 2 brigades to the region to spearhead an invasion.

france sends 50 battalions with 800 tanks into the rhineland after two hours of bombardment by 500 guns the germans occupying the rhineland are dazed and have lost many troops and tanks due to the bombardment throwing debris everywhere causing huge confusion.

OOC: Hold on, you can't say his forces have been devastated by bombing, that's the job of the Rper, you have just godmodded.

i didnt, i said they were displaced not destroyed ie shaken up a bit

Cheering at the sight of the dive bombers being thrown of their backs, the polish tanks make a final charge on the german armour, but the morale was short lived, in the ecstacy of the moment the polish cavalry also charged the tanks, none survived, the battle was long and soon the german forces where weak and wearing thin.

The USSR sends 500 bombers and fighters to attack Polands eastern defences. Polish forces are displaced by the strafing so the USSR commits 736 tanks, 959 guns, 5 divisions and 2 brigades to the region to spearhead an invasion.

OOC: Hold on, you can't say his forces have been devastated by bombing, that's the job of the Rper, you have just godmodded.

The USSR sends 500 bombers and fighters to attack Polands eastern defences. Polish forces are displaced by the strafing so the USSR commits 736 tanks, 959 guns, 5 divisions and 2 brigades to the region to spearhead an invasion.


The polish recon aircraft see the soviet spearhead and split their forces, keeping large forces of tanks and slodiers on the flanks, and an understrength battalion in the middle to keep the russians on the hook.

The polish recon aircraft see the soviet spearhead and split their forces, keeping large forces of tanks and slodiers on the flanks, and an understrength battalion in the middle to keep the russians on the hook.

OOC: I thought I was RPing the Air Force?

OOC: I thought I was RPing the Air Force?

Sorry about that, you can edit if you want.

Sorry about that, you can edit if you want.

No it's alright, DO you mind if I RP the Luftwaffe as well? That'll make it a bit more interesting

No it's alright, DO you mind if I RP the Luftwaffe as well? That'll make it a bit more interesting

No, id rather the germans kept the luftwaffe.

the 3 french foreign legion companies who countered the attack from prussia have split the attack force in two one half carried on the other is in viscous combat with the FFL causing large amounts of casualties on both sides.

The Polish forces, now on either side of the russian spearhead, plough into the rear of the exposed flanks and begins pushing forward into through the russian lines.

The polish recon aircraft see the soviet spearhead and split their forces, keeping large forces of tanks and slodiers on the flanks, and an understrength battalion in the middle to keep the russians on the hook.

The Polish forces, now on either side of the russian spearhead, plough into the rear of the exposed flanks and begins pushing forward into through the russian lines.


The USSR forces break formation, and unorganized fighting breaks out throughout the Russian lines in a desprate attempt to repel the Polish attack.
Fighters from the previous attack are possitioned above the Russian lines to defend from Polish air to ground attacks.

OOC: Ignore this post, instead

IC:

Flying several hundred feet above the Dive Bombers and their escort, were eight PZL. P11's of Army Poznan's no.131 Squadron. The small fighter may have been slower and packing less firepower than the Me109 but it was far more manourverable, thanks to it's gull wing design and it could a lot of punishment before being destroyed.

Taking advantage of the oppurtunity, three of the P.11's broke formation and dived on the Stuka's formation, firing in bursts aheasd of the Dive bombers before pulling out of the way. The others dived on the fighter escort, pulling up behind them and firing small bursts from their twin machine guns before turning away for another attack.

IC: 20 of my German fighter jets will now be sent to fight your PZL. P11's. Another 20 have been kept in reserve in case of another attempt to intercept our bombers.

france sends 50 battalions with 800 tanks into the rhineland after two hours of bombardment by 500 guns

IC: I will send in air support with 50 dive bombers, which will this time be protected by 100 fighter jets.

Cheering at the sight of the dive bombers being thrown of their backs, the polish tanks make a final charge on the german armour, but the morale was short lived, in the ecstacy of the moment the polish cavalry also charged the tanks, none survived, the battle was long and soon the german forces where weak and wearing thin.

IC: I have my second line of reinforcements ready. These troops will take over the front line while the troops who were injured from the previous battle will be moved to medical units away from the front line.

the 3 french foreign legion companies who countered the attack from prussia have split the attack force in two one half carried on the other is in viscous combat with the FFL causing large amounts of casualties on both sides.

The Polish women and children in the capital, Warsaw, are all evacuated into the country. Men are expected to fight.

No, id rather the germans kept the luftwaffe.

OOC: Fair enough

Over the Soviet Columns, nine of the slow and sluggish P.23 Kara's started their bombing runs. They were targeting the Soviet Armour especially and began to drop their payloads onto the lines of Soviet Tanks.

IC: My German forces from Prussia are also meeting fierce resistance in the north as expected. Reinforcements for the northern front will not be possible immediately as our main focus is on the eastern front line.


one of the FFL companies splits in an attempt to hit the germans stuck in the corridor from behind. they hit them with everything they have got and slowly the germans begin to go crazy and lose all order they become easy pickings for the rest of the FFL.

IC: 20 of my German fighter jets will now be sent to fight your PZL. P11's. Another 20 have been kept in reserve in case of another attempt to intercept our bombers.

OOC: Jets? Is this a joke?

IC: My German forces from Prussia are also meeting fierce resistance in the north as expected. Reinforcements for the northern front will not be possible immediately as our main focus is on the eastern front line.

The USSR forces break formation, and unorganized fighting breaks out throughout the Russian lines in a desprate attempt to repel the Polish attack.
Fighters from the previous attack are possitioned above the Russian lines to defend from Polish air to ground attacks.


The polish Machine gunners on the tanks fire at the aircraft, and await air reinforcements as they move through the lines.

OOC:This is your Standard Fighter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me109)

The polish Machine gunners on the tanks fire at the aircraft, and await air reinforcements as they move through the lines.

Russian tanks began to re-organize and take formation before delivering a counter attack to the polish tanks.

OOC: Jets? Is this a joke?

OOC: Oh excuse me. By "Jets" I simply mean fighter planes. In this case they would have been propellor driven. Using the word "Jets" is just a habit a got into.

Sorry, by jets I meant propellor driven planes.

one of the FFL companies splits in an attempt to hit the germans stuck in the corridor from behind. they hit them with everything they have got and slowly the germans begin to go crazy and lose all order they become easy pickings for the rest of the FFL.

OOC: GODMOD!
You can't say his forces have lost cohesion, It's his job to say that, not yours. You say what you have done, he says what the effect is. That's the way it works.

OOC: soz pal haha
IC: two FFL companies drop into warsaw in an attempt to help holp the lines. the planes also dropped extra guns, ammunitions and light anti tank weapons these are to equip men who have stayed behind to help fight for their country against the german tyrany.

OOC: chill out stress head

Russian tanks began to re-organize and take formation before delivering a counter attack to the polish tanks.

The polish tanks are retreating, but since they have attacked from the rear they are driven back into USSR, soon they have nowhere to go and end up in a rearguard action and are sourrounded by russian tanks.

IC: 20 of my German fighter jets will now be sent to fight your PZL. P11's. Another 20 have been kept in reserve in case of another attempt to intercept our bombers.


OOC: and did you forget to RP the damage to your planes, I said I attcked them

the FFL begin to plant mines around the main roads to halt any attack for a small amount of time.

The polish tanks are retreating, but since they have attacked from the rear they are driven back into USSR, soon they have nowhere to go and end up in a rearguard action and are sourrounded by russian tanks.

The superior soviet T-35 tanks procede to open fire on the surrounded Polish armour, before heading North East with the rest of the invasion force to the city of Wilno to try and establish a base of opperations.

OOC: Guys, I know you're all new to this but Fuckin' Hell!

OOC: soz pal haha
IC: two FFL companies drop into warsaw in an attempt to help holp the lines. the planes also dropped extra guns, ammunitions and light anti tank weapons these are to equip men who have stayed behind to help fight for their country against the german tyrany.

The unarmed civilians are equipped with the weapons and begin to entrench into the city, all roads are blocked as the german forces sourround the city...

OOC: What do you know about the T-35?

They were the USSR's heavy tank during the inter-war period

The superior soviet T-35 tanks procede to open fire on the surrounded Polish armour, before heading North East with the rest of the invasion force to the city of Wilno to try and establish a base of opperations.

The polish tanks are defeated, the citizens are evacuated and 2 cavalry brigades await the enemy at wilno.

The superior soviet T-35 tanks procede to open fire on the surrounded Polish armour, before heading North East with the rest of the invasion force to the city of Wilno to try and establish a base of opperations.

OOC: What do you know about the T-35?

They were the USSR's heavy tank during the inter-war period

OOC: So you know that only about 30 were built and they were so mechanically unreliable that they broke down as soon as they left Moscow? And that they were so poorly armoured that standard AT guns could penetrate them? And they got bogged down in any material that wasn't completely solid?

Out of curiousity, what do you all know about your forces? Arms, Tanks etc, etc?

The polish tanks are defeated, the citizens are evacuated and 2 cavalry brigades await the enemy at wilno.

The Soviet T-35 begin to accelerate towards Wilno
followed by the rest of the invasion force, in an all out attack.

OOC: So you know that only about 30 were built and they were so mechanically unreliable that they broke down as soon as they left Moscow? And that they were so poorly armoured that standard AT guns could penetrate them? And they got bogged down in any material that wasn't completely solid?

Out of curiousity, what do you all know about your forces? Arms, Tanks etc, etc?

did i say t35 i meant t34 sorry

OOC: alversia what the hell is your problem? it is a game so why are you taking it to a serious level and takin the fun about it? i thought so.

did i say t35 i meant t34 sorry

OOC: The T-34 was not developed in sufficient numbers to do anything until late 1940! Your most common tanks are the T-26 and BT series.

That was my dive bombers that you attacked, not my fighter planes.

OOC: I said I attacked your divebombers with three fighters and the rest jumped your fighters

one of the FFL companies splits in an attempt to hit the germans stuck in the corridor from behind. they hit them with everything they have got and slowly the germans begin to go crazy and lose all order they become easy pickings for the rest of the FFL.

The german forces advancing from Prussia realize that the northern offensive has been a faliure and would like to retreat but are now surrouded. The last hope is to call for help from the Prussian reserve militia.

The Prussian reserve militia will launch a couter attack against the FFL company that attacked the German forces from behind.

The cavalry conceal their horses outside the city limits and hide in the streets and alleys of wilno, awaiting the russian advance.

Unaware of the hidden lancers the T-26'S move into Wilno a few minuits ahead of the infrantry divisions.

OOC: and did you forget to RP the damage to your planes, I said I attcked them

That was my dive bombers that you attacked, not my fighter planes.

The Soviet T-35 begin to accelerate towards Wilno
followed by the rest of the invasion force, in an all out attack.

The cavalry conceal their horses outside the city limits and hide in the streets and alleys of wilno, awaiting the russian advance.

OOC: Leekistan, are you aware of the Polish Army's situation at this time regarding Troops and Tanks?

And RP, are you familiar with the German tactic of Blitzkrieg?

50 bloch MB.162 bombers are sent with 100 C.714 fighters as an escort out to slow the advancing russian forces they disrupt roads and hit the russian armour but the damage is unknown.
the militias counter attack comes as a great suprise to the FFL 2 companys turn and gets into a viscous firefight with them whilst the remaining company ramains firing into the stranded germans. 20 C.714 cyclones lay multiple short bursts into the germans giving the FFL a little support.

50 bloch MB.162 bombers are sent with 100 C.714 fighters as an escort out to slow the advancing russian forces they disrupt roads and hit the russian armour but the damage is unknown.
the militias counter attack comes as a great suprise to the FFL 2 companys turn and gets into a viscous firefight with them whilst the remaining company ramains firing into the stranded germans. 20 C.714 cyclones lay multiple short bursts into the germans giving the FFL a little support.

OOC: The C.714 did not start in production until 1940

BOOM! BANG! CLATTER! SHAZAM!

The polish cavalry throw homemade explosives down onto the first tanks and leap from the windows onto other tanks and rip the lids off and masssare the bewildered crew.

Seeing the advancing tanks destroyed, the invasion force procedes to surround the city but not enter it and deploy its 959 guns before bombarding the city.

Unaware of the hidden lancers the T-26'S move into Wilno a few minuits ahead of the infrantry divisions.

BOOM! BANG! CLATTER! SHAZAM!

The polish cavalry throw homemade explosives down onto the first tanks and leap from the windows onto other tanks and rip the lids off and masssare the bewildered crew.

OOC: alversia to be honest i dont care. i am amazed how you waste your life trying to know all you can about all of the little details!

ye, i got the troop numbers of wikipedia for the invasion of poland in 1939.

OOC: What was their main tank then? What was their most important tank? What were their tactics? How did they mobilise? How mobile were they?

Can I just say that by other standards this RP is appalling in terms of mistakes.

OOC: Leekistan, are you aware of the Polish Army's situation at this time regarding Troops and Tanks?

And RP, are you familiar with the German tactic of Blitzkrieg?

ye, i got the troop numbers of wikipedia for the invasion of poland in 1939.

OOC: all i will say alversia is if you are all master of every war weapon ever why dont you write a book. however no body will read it u creep get a life!

Seeing the advancing tanks destroyed, the invasion force procedes to surround the city but not enter it and deploy its 959 guns before bombarding the city.

The soldiers are in high spirits after the defaet of the german tanks, and send a message to the air force to surveil the sourrounding area.

OOC: well guess what? NOBODY LIKES YOU GET A F**KIN LIFE INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING GET OUT OF YOUR PARENTS BASEMENT AND FIND A FRIEND.

The soldiers are in high spirits after the defaet of the german tanks, and send a message to the air force to surveil the sourrounding area.

After bombarding the city for a few hours the divisions begin to move in under the cover of darkness- equipped with bayonets mounted on their mosin nagants and PPSh-41 for close quarters combat. They vastly outnumber the cavlary.

OOC: What was their main tank then? What was their most important tank? What were their tactics? How did they mobilise? How mobile were they?

Can I just say that by other standards this RP is appalling in terms of mistakes.

OOC: If its to hot for ya get out of the kitchen!

OOC: If its to hot for ya get out of the kitchen!

OOC: Seriously, if you try to RP like this with anyone else you will be ripped to shreds OOCly. No one likes a Godmodder and this place is swimming with them.

The soldiers are in high spirits after the defaet of the german tanks, and send a message to the air force to surveil the sourrounding area.

OOC: What the hell does this mean?

After bombarding the city for a few hours the divisions begin to move in under the cover of darkness- equipped with bayonets mounted on their mosin nagants and PPSh-41 for close quarters combat. They vastly outnumber the cavlary.

OOC: There's a reason it's called the PPsh-41. It wasn't brought into service until late 1941 (Based on the Finnish Suomi Machine Gun, co-incidentally)

have a look in ur observer plains at the sourrounding area, and btw maybe well just rp amongst ourselves.:upyours:

The cavalry fight bravely, but are forced off the streets, they hide in the buildings and sewers...

the Soviet troops ( armed with mosin nagants and PPD-34/38 )begin to raid buildings and follow the Poles into the sewers to hopefully cut them off and corner them before they can regroupe and escape.

After bombarding the city for a few hours the divisions begin to move in under the cover of darkness- equipped with bayonets mounted on their mosin nagants and PPSh-41 for close quarters combat. They vastly outnumber the cavlary.

The cavalry fight bravely, but are forced off the streets, they hide in the buildings and sewers...

actually alversia it is send not sent so shut up and F**K off

can we get back to the battle now i want to know whats happening with the prussian militia lol

have a look in ur observer plains at the sourrounding area, and btw maybe well just rp amongst ourselves.:upyours:

OOC: Suit yourself, I was trying to help. Don't try and call other people's losses. Don't try and sum up a battle in two lines of text. Research your armies so you don't use weapons from the future or the past. Try and tell people were the attacks are. I hadn't a clue at any point were the Germans were in this RP.

BTW:
have a look in ur observer plains(Planes) at the sourrounding (Surrounding) area, and btw maybe well (We'll) just rp amongst ourselves.:upyours:

and

The soldiers are in high spirits after the defaet (Defeat) of the german tanks, and send (Sent) a message to the air force to surveil (Survey or scout) the sourrounding (Surrounding) area.

Hope you enjoy this RP, because if this is the way you keep RPing, its the last one you'll do.

hey Look Ive Rp'd Wring Its The Last Thing Ill Do, Erk! Its Killed Me, Get Out Man ;)

hey Look Ive Rp'd Wring Its The Last Thing Ill Do, Erk! Its Killed Me, Get Out Man ;)

OOC: Seriously, I want to help here. Take it from me, it's not pleasant to be blasted by the bigger RP'ers here when you respond to their massive post of an attack in twelve words :(
It's actually quite humiliating as well.

And what is 'Wring'?

the Soviet troops ( armed with mosin nagants and PPD-34/38 )begin to raid buildings and follow the Poles into the sewers to hopefully cut them off and corner them before they can recruit and escape.

The city is locked in gueralla warfare, the soldiers and civilians know the city like the back of their hand, but food is running out, they begin to feed on the russian soldiers and each other...

OOC: Seriously, I want to help here. Take it from me, it's not pleasant to be blasted by the bigger RP'ers here when you respond to their massive post of an attack in twelve words :(
It's actually quite humiliating as well.

And what is 'Wring'?

Take your standard QWERTY keyboard, hold it up, look fo the letter O, once youve found it, look one key to the left, it is the letter I, "Wring" is a typo my freind.

The city is locked in gueralla warfare, the soldiers and civilians know the city like the back of their hand, but food is running out, they begin to feed on the russian soldiers and each other...

Russian forces, digusted at what they see, procede to follow a shoot on sight stratergy and possition all of their forces in the eastern half of the city to try and defend against the canabalistic population. With orders to wait until the population of the city has died out, the Russians stand their ground.

Take your standard QWERTY keyboard, hold it up, look fo the letter O, once youve found it, look one key to the left, it is the letter I, "Wring" is a typo my freind.

OOC: You could have just said that, Y'know? No need for the patronising part in front of it.

IC: (Last one)

At the request of some random Polish Soldiers who had defeated a bunch of random tanks in some random part of the country, several Lublin R.XIII's were sent out to try and find the advancing German Armour columns and their supporting infantry. The Panzer I's, II's and III's had to be in the surrounding area somewhere but, for the moment, they evaded detection.

OOC: The planes are mine again.

IC: The polish air force drop supplies into Wilno, but before the poles can get to them the russians have seized the supplies.

With new the supplys, the Russians believe they have enough resources to mount an assault on the remaining population and advance into the western half of Wilno.

OOC: You could have just said that, Y'know? No need for the patronising part in front of it.

IC: (Last one)

At the request of some random Polish Soldiers who had defeated a bunch of random tanks in some random part of the country, several Lublin R.XIII's were sent out to try and find the advancing German Armour columns and their supporting infantry. The Panzer I's, II's and III's had to be in the surrounding area somewhere but, for the moment, they evaded detection.

OOC: don't come back.

The cannabalistic population now are driven to madness, they charge the russian forces and begin ripping their soldiers apart in their sleep.

Soviet forces withdraw from the city before calling in a bombing run to level it to the ground.

OOC: don't come back.

OOC: Trust me mate, you couldn't pay to come back :upyours:
And as for Fort Johnson's post about three pages back. If I were to met you in real life, I can assure you I would smash your fuckin' face into the nearest wall.

Hope you enjoy your conversation gentlemen. It doesn't qualify as an RP and you lot are the most arrogant Bastards I have ever fuckin' met.

:upyours::upyours::upyours::upyours::upyours::upyours::upyours:

With new the supplys, the Russians believe they have enough resources to mount an assault on the remaining population and advance into the western half of Wilno.

The cannabalistic population now are driven to madness, they charge the russian forces and begin ripping their soldiers apart in their sleep.

can we get back to the battle now i want to know whats happening with the prussian militia lol

The prussian militia are only reserves with limited training and old assault rifles and so are no real match for the FFL. Therefore they can only do as much as try to help the other german troops retreat back north.

What happens is that the prussian militia are able to clear the area for retreat only after sufferring terrible losses themselves. By this time there is not much of a German army left to save.

Having cleared the way the prussian militia and remaining german assualt force call for air fighter support as they expect to be bombed as they retreat.

OOC: Trust me mate, you couldn't pay to come back :upyours:
And as for Fort Johnson's post about three pages back. If I were to met you in real life, I can assure you I would smash your fuckin' face into the nearest wall.

Hope you enjoy your conversation gentlemen. It doesn't qualify as an RP and you lot are the most arrogant Bastards I have ever fuckin' met.

:upyours::upyours::upyours::upyours::upyours::upyours::upyours:

Wahey!!!! See dat??? he wants to smash ur face in, ahaha ha ha omg waht a gay:p look thats what he wanted to do -------> :headbang:

Whoah guys, uh...these twelve word posts just don't cut it in RPs unless they pertain to something that can't be explained in depth.

Example, this:

The city is locked in gueralla warfare, the soldiers and civilians know the city like the back of their hand, but food is running out, they begin to feed on the russian soldiers and each other...


Should become something like this:


The city was in flames. Across the perimeter of *insert city name here*, rifle retorts, machine gun bursts, and grenade blasts were muffled by the deep barotone bass of artillery strikes. Fires rose steadily from burning buildings where shells fell with deadly precision, and tactical bombers struck from their perches high above the clouds.

Alexiyev Gustoski knew his home well. Cold biting at his hands, face, and body, he ran from rubble pile to rubble pile, grasping the metal and wooden stock of his PPSH submachine gun, keeping its nose down save it go off prematurely and give away his position.

"Where are those Russian bastards?" He thought to himself, looking down alleyways and into the air, seeking out tell tale tracer shots which may betray the locale of the enemy forces. He continued walking down the sidewalk of what had been once a roadway filled with shopping marts and restaurants where he had spent many a fun filled afternoon with his mates. They were dead now. They were all dead. Now he would avenge them.

Choosing a side alley, heading in an eastward direction, he pursued what he though he heard as near by weapons fire. He ran down as far as the path went, some thirty feet, then chose the following alley heading north. From there he saw a small squad of green-grey overcoat wearing Red Army troops, hiding behind a pile of rubble. In the center of the mass was another man, obviously a Commissar by the green brimmed hat atop his head and the large Red Star he wore within it. He was a large man, rotund with a big brown mustache and a brown great coat differing himself from his troops. The NKVD patch aside his shoulder further gave away his standing as an officer, and Alexsi moved closer, slowly. He was very close now, so close that he could see the fear in the young Russian's eyes as they fired shots into the streets which he could not see. He lifted the submachine gun's iron sight to his eye level, and pressed the hard wooden stock into his shoulder. He rested his head just atop the weapon's metal frame, and flipped the selected into automatic. As he squeezed the trigger and the weapon burst into terrible life, he knew that the poor Russians would never see it coming.

Events such as this occured all throughout the city, as the partisans made valiant stands against their Red Invaders. However, as supplies ran low and casualties rise, they turn to every opportunity they can find to raid food, even from each other....


While I think I could do better, that should give you an idea of how to conduct a post. Granted I don't know precisely whats going on in this RP, but thats the best assumption I can make as to what Leekastin's post was trying to say. Hope that helps! If you all want to do another RP similar to this one later, call me in and I'll help you blokes out. Also if you have any other questions, feel free to telegram me.

Whoah guys, uh...these twelve word posts just don't cut it in RPs unless they pertain to something that can't be explained in depth.

Example, this:




Should become something like this:


The city was in flames. Across the perimeter of *insert city name here*, rifle retorts, machine gun bursts, and grenade blasts were muffled by the deep barotone bass of artillery strikes. Fires rose steadily from burning buildings where shells fell with deadly precision, and tactical bombers struck from their perches high above the clouds.

Alexiyev Gustoski knew his home well. Cold biting at his hands, face, and body, he ran from rubble pile to rubble pile, grasping the metal and wooden stock of his PPSH submachine gun, keeping its nose down save it go off prematurely and give away his position.

"Where are those Russian bastards?" He thought to himself, looking down alleyways and into the air, seeking out tell tale tracer shots which may betray the locale of the enemy forces. He continued walking down the sidewalk of what had been once a roadway filled with shopping marts and restaurants where he had spent many a fun filled afternoon with his mates. They were dead now. They were all dead. Now he would avenge them.

Choosing an side alley, heading in an eastward direction. He ran down as far as it went, some thirty feet, then chose the following alley heading north. From there he saw a small squad of green-grey overcoat wearing Red Army troops, hiding behind a pile of rubble. In the center of the mass was another man, obviously a Commissar by the green brimmed hat atop his head and the large Red Star he wore within it. He was a large man, rotund with a big brown mustache and a brown great coat differing himself from his troops. The NKVD patch aside his shoulder further gave away his standing as an officer, and Alexsi moved closer, slowly. He was very close now, so close that he could see the fear in the young Russian's eyes as they fired shots into the streets which he could not see. He lifted the submachine gun's iron sight to his eye level, and pressed the hard wooden stock into his shoulder. He rested his head just atop the weapon's metal frame, and flipped the selected into automatic. As he squeezed the trigger and the weapon burst into terrible life, he knew that the poor Russians would never see it coming.

Events such as this occured all throughout the city, as the partisans made valiant stands against their Red Invaders. However, as supplies ran low and casualties rise, they turn to every opportunity they can find to raid food, even from each other....


While I think I could do better, that should give you an idea of how to conduct a post. Granted I don't know precisely whats going on in this RP, but thats the best assumption I can make as to what Leekastin's post was trying to say. Hope that helps! If you all want to do another RP similar to this one later, call me in and I'll help you blokes out. Also if you have any other questions, feel free to telegram me.



This guy makes sense, he controls himself lol, ye thanks for that.

OOC: My humble apologies but when someone posts these

OOC: alversia to be honest i dont care. i am amazed how you waste your life trying to know all you can about all of the little details!

OOC: all i will say alversia is if you are all master of every war weapon ever why dont you write a book. however no body will read it u creep get a life!

OOC: well guess what? NOBODY LIKES YOU GET A F**KIN LIFE INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING GET OUT OF YOUR PARENTS BASEMENT AND FIND A FRIEND.

I do tend to get rather annoyed. I hope you can forgive me, Leekastin

This guy makes sense, he controls himself lol, ye thanks for that.

Anytime mate.

@Alversia, using insults and ESPECIALLY those "angry" smilies are not helpful and simply bad form. If you want respect on the forum, be calm, patient, and most all, respectful.

Soviet forces withdraw from the city before calling in a bombing run to level it to the ground.

The remaining forces are crushed under the payload of the artillery, the battle of wilno is lost...

With soviet forces having secured North east Poland they procede to go advance south to the city of Lwow

Whilst approaching Lwow, the Soviet troops encounter yet 10 Divisions of entrenched infantry on the other side of the river past brody, they begin to ready themselves for the battle to come,

Many are attending the chapel or writing home, The more strict officers are ensuring every last bit of polish equipment and weaponry is ready for use and the trenches and properly reinforced.

A young officer, Major Kamarov, was enjoying a personal favourate of gulasz in the officers mess when the news reached him of the Russian forces, he ordered the troops to hold the line, whilst he prepared himself for the fight to come.

OOC: See, this is much better than previous posts. I am asking for forgiveness for being an overbearing and arrogant B*stard. I was also wondering if I could take up my old post as PAF operator? If not, I'll understand perfectly. Apologies again.

Whilst approaching Lwow, the Soviet troops encounter yet 10 Divisions of entrenched infantry on the other side of the river past brody, they begin to ready themselves for the battle to come,

Many are attending the chapel or writing home, The more strict officers are ensuring every last bit of polish equipment and weaponry is ready for use and the trenches and properly reinforced.

An old officer, Major-General Kamarov, was enjoying a personal favourate of gulasz in the officers mess when the news reached him of the Russian forces, he ordered the troops to hold the line, whilst he prepared himself for the fight to come.

Whilst approaching Lwow, the Soviet troops encounter yet 10 Divisions of entrenched infantry on the other side of the river past brody, they begin to ready themselves for the battle to come,

Many are attending the chapel or writing home, The more strict officers are ensuring every last bit of polish equipment and weaponry is ready for use and the trenches and properly reinforced.

A young officer, Major Kamarov, was enjoying a personal favourate of gulasz in the officers mess when the news reached him of the Russian forces, he ordered the troops to hold the line, whilst he prepared himself for the fight to come.

Better, you're getting there. Build the character Major Kamarov. I want to know what he's thinking, what he's feeling, and when the battle starts, what he sees. But yes, this is a definate improvement. :)

(OOC: God, what happened while I was away? Seriously everyone, take a chill pill and heed these guys advice - if you want to make a nice RP, go into detail about what you are doing. As well as that, only say what your troops are doing, unless the person has already said what they are doing and you are repeating what they did (i.e., the opponent opens fire on you with a machinegun, and you roleplay your squads reaction to that machinegun fire.)
Secondly, if anyone starts hurling abuse, known as flaming, either ignore them or try to cool it down. If that doesn't work, then the moderators are just a forum away. I know how it feels, Alversia, but don't give in to flamebaiters and trollers.
I won't be joining for now, but I would recommend that everyone just take a deep breath before carrying on, and USE DETAIL when you do. Thankyou everyone for listening, as I know you will have, and have a nice evening.)

Knock yourself out, there all yours.

OOC: In that case, Where are they needed?
If you need to know anything about tactics or weapons of the era, just ask. I know I have been rather pushy up until this point but trying to keep it slightly realistic y'know?

OOC: See, this is much better than previous posts. I am asking for forgiveness for being an overbearing and arrogant B*stard. I was also wondering if I could take up my old post as PAF operator? If not, I'll understand perfectly. Apologies again.

Knock yourself out, there all yours.

IC: An update of German activities.

IC: With the Polish forces having retreated to Warsaw, German forces have tried to secure thier occupation of south east Poland with thier forces occupying cities such as Czestochowa and Cracow.

The Germans have suffered heavy losses on thier eastern front and have totally retreated on the northern front. But since the Polish forces have been tied down by the Russian invasion, the situation has allowed the Germans to eventually break through the Polish western line and secure most of south east Poland. This has given them time to bring reinforcements into the area.

They will now advance on Warsaw with renewed air support and with Waffen SS troops who are trained in guerilla street warfare.

OOC: By the way can I talk about other historical events such as the resettlement of German and Polish jews to Ghettos in Poland. (Not the holocaust as it happened later in 1942-45)

OOC: In that case, Where are they needed?
If you need to know anything about tactics or weapons of the era, just ask. I know I have been rather pushy up until this point but trying to keep it slightly realistic y'know?

Were going to need a bombing run on the Soviet forces attacking our 10 infnatry divisions on the western side of the river near Lwow. That is the main prioroty.

IC: An update of German activities.

IC: With the Polish forces having retreated to Warsaw, German forces have tried to secure thier occupation of south east Poland with thier forces occupying cities such as Czestochowa and Cracow.

The Germans have suffered heavy losses on thier eastern front and have totally retreated on the northern front. But since the Polish forces have been tied down by the Russian invasion, the situation has allowed the Germans to eventually break through the Polish western line and secure most of south east Poland. This has given them time to bring reinforcements into the area.

They will now advance on Warsaw with renewed air support and with Waffen SS troops who are trained in guerilla street warfare.

OOC: By the way can I talk about other historical events such as the resettlement of German and Polish jews to Ghettos in Poland. (Not the holocaust as it happened later in 1942-45)


OOC: ye, once you've got warsaw (if you do;)) you can put who you like there.

IC: The commander of Polish forces at Warsaw, General Nuemann, was nervous about the battle to come, he was nervous about the war, he was nervous of his family.

Nuemann was half German, his father had been a German fighter pilot in the first war, and he had live in the polish corridor, so became a polish citizen after the war. Nuemann was very fond of his father and proud to be his son, although he hoped his father wouldn't be angry or annoyed with his actions against German soldiers.

His father was awfully fond of Germany and the German military, but he was Jewish, and is extremely anti-nazi, he would want to fight Nazis, but never harm Germany.

General Nuemann snapped out of thought, he depolyed all soldiers in the area, he ordered the concealment of them all in the nearby farms and villages, and awaited the German forces...

Were going to need a bombing run on the Soviet forces attacking our 10 infnatry divisions on the western side of the river near Lwow. That is the main prioroty.

OOC: Fair enough

IC:

Upon the orders of HQ, twelve P.37 'Los', twin Engined Bombers set off from their airfields. Their destination were the Soviet spearheads trying to cross the river and attack the Polish forces defending the other bank. Along with these forces another twenty P.23 'Karas' would also be sent into attack at low level rather than the high level bombers. Overall support was to be provided by a dozen P.11 fighters and eight of their predecesors, the PZL. P.7 fighters.

Flying one of the Karas was St. Szer. Stanley Koblinski. Staring around him nervously for any sign of Soviet fighters as well as trying to keep in formation with the other P.23's he could only hope the Escort would be able to help them if the Russians attacked. Against the fighters, the PZL. P.23 would not last long. He swallowed hard, pushed the image of his wife and children at home in Warsaw and focused on the job in hand.

Above them, were the Los Bombers. One of the most modern Bombers in the world, these were also the most advanced aircraft available to the Polish Air Force. Flying the leading one was Aleksansder Gabszewiez. He was a veteran pilot, serving with the Russian Air Force during the First World War and then fought against the Ukraine and Russia during the 1920's. Now he was on a mission to protect his homeland and he wouldn't let her or his crewmen down.

Western Front

While the Germans continued their advance, more Kara and Los were sent desperatly against the advancing Panzers. They were trying to stop them long enough for the Ground Forces to build defences for Warsaw.

OOC: Is there anyway I could join in this thread, or is it closed?

OOC: Is there anyway I could join in this thread, or is it closed?

Ye you can join, erm we have a postion as Slovakia open, how does that sound?

OOC:Slovakia didn't play a major part in the conflict, and had 3 divisions available to attack from the south.

OOC: You could let him play as the Luftwaffe? Or the Red Air Force? perhaps

Warsaw was now of adequate defending strength to hold the Germans of for some time but it wouldn't be long, General Nuemann strolled through the outer city limits, where he had grown up as a child and his main line of defence was based, he was ready to put his life on the line for this city./

OOC: You could let him play as the Luftwaffe? Or the Red Air Force? perhaps

We'll let him decide.

OOC: ye, once you've got warsaw (if you do) you can put who you like there.

IC: The commander of Polish forces at Warsaw, General Nuemann, was nervous about the battle to come, he was nervous about the war, he was nervous of his family.

Nuemann was half German, his father had been a German fighter pilot in the first war, and he had live in the polish corridor, so became a polish citizen after the war. Nuemann was very fond of his father and proud to be his son, although he hoped his father wouldn't be angry or annoyed with his actions against German soldiers.

His father was awfully fond of Germany and the German military, but he was Jewish, and is extremely anti-nazi, he would want to fight Nazis, but never harm Germany.

General Nuemann snapped out of thought, he depolyed all soldiers in the area, he ordered the concealment of them all in the nearby farms and villages, and awaited the German forces...

IC: If you will fight a guerilla war then you give us no choice but to bomb and blow up any farms and buildings in our way where Polish forces are thought to be hiding.

As for Nuemann's jewish father, he'd better then hide away if he wants to evade detection by the gestapo after Poland is fully occupied.

(I'm sorry. Perhaps talking about events other than the war itself is not really appropriate. I don't want to role-play any persecution of the jews. I just want a good war game.)

Western Front

While the Germans continued their advance, more Kara and Los were sent desperatly against the advancing Panzers. They were trying to stop them long enough for the Ground Forces to build defences for Warsaw.

IC: This will hold the Germans back for a bit of course.

Our renewed air support means that our bombers will try to help take out ground resistance and our fighters will help to take out air resistence.

Warsaw was now of adequate defending strength to hold the Germans of for some time but it wouldn't be long, General Nuemann strolled through the outer city limits, where he had grown up as a child and his main line of defence was based, he was ready to put his life on the line for this city./

OOC: Maybe a tiny bit more detail here. For example, how many troops are defending the city? Is there armour? Snipers? Artillery? Something like this:

Warsaw's Defences was now of sufficient strength to hold the Germans for some time. 55,000 (OOC: I assume?) troops of various various divisions and Armies had been assembled under General Nuemann's command and now he paced through the outer limits of the city. Where he had grown up. Where he would die if necessary.

From his current position he could see Polish 7TP Light Tanks hiding around street corners or hidden by camoflague. He could also see snipers setting up their rifles in the various buildings that built up on either side of the street.

He also knew there were machine gun posts build up in various strongpoints in the city, and anti-tank artillery dug into the ground to stop the German Panzers. Mines had been laced by the thousand throughout the city in an attempt to force the Invaders into corridors of death.

General Neumann knew he had given Warsaw her best chance to defend herself. The rest was down to the common Pole...


Like I said, this is just a little more helpful for the German's Rper as he knows how many troops he's facing, what weapons they have and how well defended the city is. This way he can give a more detailed post in relation to his own losses and attacks. Hope this helped.

OOC: I'll join as the Luftwaffe. I'll have to start posting later though. I have a lot of work to do for some tests I've got coming up next week in History, Mathematics, and some other classes. Once I've got a little more work done though, I'll begin pounding you Poles into the ground with the might of my mighty Junkers close air support craft ;)

OOC: And my mightly PZL P.11s will blow you out of sky :p

OOC@Leekastan: It's not a problem just remember that small details make everyone's life easier.
BTW: Thought you might want to read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7TP
It will help

OOC: I'll join as the Luftwaffe. I'll have to start posting later though. I have a lot of work to do for some tests I've got coming up next week in History, Mathematics, and some other classes. Once I've got a little more work done though, I'll begin pounding you Poles into the ground with the might of my mighty Junkers close air support craft ;)

OOC: Maybe a tiny bit more detail here. For example, how many troops are defending the city? Is there armour? Snipers? Artillery? Something like this:

Warsaw's Defences was now of sufficient strength to hold the Germans for some time. 55,000 (OOC: I assume?) troops of various various divisions and Armies had been assembled under General Nuemann's command and now he paced through the outer limits of the city. Where he had grown up. Where he would die if necessary.

From his current position he could see Polish 7TP Light Tanks hiding around street corners or hidden by camoflague. He could also see snipers setting up their rifles in the various buildings that built up on either side of the street.

He also knew there were machine gun posts build up in various strongpoints in the city, and anti-tank artillery dug into the ground to stop the German Panzers. Mines had been laced by the thousand throughout the city in an attempt to force the Invaders into corridors of death.

General Neumann knew he had given Warsaw her best chance to defend herself. The rest was down to the common Pole...


Like I said, this is just a little more helpful for the German's Rper as he knows how many troops he's facing, what weapons they have and how well defended the city is. This way he can give a more detailed post in relation to his own losses and attacks. Hope this helped.

Ye, sorry, I was in a rush.

IC: If you will fight a guerilla war then you give us no choice but to bomb and blow up any farms and buildings in our way where Polish forces are thought to be hiding.

As for Nuemann's jewish father, he'd better then hide away if he wants to evade detection by the gestapo after Poland is fully occupied.

(I'm sorry. Perhaps talking about events other than the war itself is not really appropriate. I don't want to role-play any persecution of the jews. I just want a good war game.)



IC: This will hold the Germans back for a bit of course.

Our renewed air support means that our bombers will try to help take out ground resistance and our fighters will help to take out air resistence.

OOC: Nuemanns father will be captured by the gestapo to add a bit of a personal vendetta to the storyline, meanwhile lets get underway with the fighting...

Nuemann stood atop the steeple of a church in his local neighbourhood, he watced as the sun rose on the beauty that is the city of Warsaw, he knew the beauty couldn't last once the Germans arrived.

A soldier called up to him;

"Sir!"
It was his orderly, Cpl. Nikolai Rudinski, or "Nik" to his fellow soldiers.
"Sir, we have located the German Forces, they are approaching the City!"
Nuemann paused a moment, took a deep breath, his heart felt heavy, and he called back down,
"Tell the troops to make ready Corporal."
"Yes Sir."

IC: This will hold the Germans back for a bit of course.

Our renewed air support means that our bombers will try to help take out ground resistance and our fighters will help to take out air resistence.

OOC: Sorry to cut in again, but how many of my planes have you intercepted? What have you intercepted them with? Something simple like this:

Over the German Columns, Me109's and Me110's ruthless patrolled the skies to protect the Tanks from maruading Polish Bombers. At the same time, German bombers stepped up their efforts to ease the passage of their troops by pounding the Polish Lines. One such raid included twenty Stuka Dive Bombers and an escort of twenty-five Me109 fighters

That way I can RP the damage to my bombers and it lets me post an interception and dogfight between your bombers and my fighters.

And try and take things a little slower, you have got from the German border to Warsaw in less than 150 Posts, at this rate the RP will be over before Wanderjar can post.

Your call Reformed Populistania...

[OOC: Sorry to probably repeat what has previously been said, but a ruling of the moderators has outlawed all alternate history threads in the NationStates boards. Please, move off-site if you wish to continue, for it is only a matter of time before the mods pop in and close this thread.]

[OOC: Sorry to probably repeat what has previously been said, but a ruling of the moderators has outlawed all alternate history threads in the NationStates boards. Please, move off-site if you wish to continue, for it is only a matter of time before the mods pop in and close this thread.]

OOC: This thread was to show new players how to do things. Don't worry about it.

[OOC: Sorry to probably repeat what has previously been said, but a ruling of the moderators has outlawed all alternate history threads in the NationStates boards. Please, move off-site if you wish to continue, for it is only a matter of time before the mods pop in and close this thread.]

Go and read the beggining and see how this avoids those inconviniet rules.

Go and read the beggining and see how this avoids those inconviniet rules.

OOC: Right enough though, I reckon your days are numbered :p

[OOC: Go read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528525) and see how it does violate those "inconvenient" rules.]

IC:


"The Poles are in full retreat," Noted Hermann Göring, commander of the Luftwaffe, to himself. "Excellent, the Heer has done it's job." He paced about the war room at the Headquarters for the Oberkommando der Luftwaffe.

"What are your orders, herr Kommandant?" Asked one of the Air Marschals present.

Göring turned to the man and smiled. "My friend, we are going to pound those bastards into oblivion. Order the tactical bomber units to hunt down all fleeing enemy formations and destroy them. Once this has been achieved, we'll begin flying sorties over Warsaw and bomb enemy positions. Have the recon fliers head over the enemy locales so we can prepare bomb target lists for our pilots upon their return. Meanwhile, continue having the fighters fly air superiority sorties across the front. Do not allow any of those Poles to bomb our formations. The partisans have been fierce, I'm told. Well they've yet to experiance the full wrath of the mightiest Air Army to ever sail the skies! Keep our Close Air Support fighters moving across the front as well, hitting enemy positions and killing off their formations. We want to make them so weak before they reach Warsaw that they cannot hope to stand against the might of the Wehrmacht." He turned away from the map and then said, "Make it happen, gentlemen. Let's end this war."


Across the front air units pursued their Polish foes as they fled from German panzers. Heinkel 111 and Dornier 17 tactical bombers dropped dozens of heavy ordinance upon retreating infantry and armoured formations, and Ju-87 Close Air Support craft dropped bombs with precision onto enemy units as well. On this day, the fields of Poland would be littered with burning bodies and smoking hulks of metal.

IC:


"The Poles are in full retreat," Noted Hermann Göring, commander of the Luftwaffe, to himself. "Excellent, the Heer has done it's job." He paced about the war room at the Headquarters for the Oberkommando der Luftwaffe.

"What are your orders, herr Kommandant?" Asked one of the Air Marschals present.

Göring turned to the man and smiled. "My friend, we are going to pound those bastards into oblivion. Order the tactical bomber units to hunt down all fleeing enemy formations and destroy them. Once this has been achieved, we'll begin flying sorties over Warsaw and bomb enemy positions. Have the recon fliers head over the enemy locales so we can prepare bomb target lists for our pilots upon their return. Meanwhile, continue having the fighters fly air superiority sorties across the front. Do not allow any of those Poles to bomb our formations. The partisans have been fierce, I'm told. Well they've yet to experiance the full wrath of the mightiest Air Army to ever sail the skies! Keep our Close Air Support fighters moving across the front as well, hitting enemy positions and killing off their formations. We want to make them so weak before they reach Warsaw that they cannot hope to stand against the might of the Wehrmacht." He turned away from the map and then said, "Make it happen, gentlemen. Let's end this war."


Across the front air units pursued their Polish foes as they fled from German panzers. Heinkel 111 and Dornier 17 tactical bombers dropped dozens of heavy ordinance upon retreating infantry and armoured formations, and Ju-87 Close Air Support craft dropped bombs with precision onto enemy units as well. On this day, the fields of Poland would be littered with burning bodies and smoking hulks of metal.

Far from it, the failure of the Luftwaffe to hit the airfields on the first day meant that they had allowed the Polish Air Force to withdraw to hidden airbases scattered throughout the countryside.

Almost every German air attack was met by PZL P.11's and PZL. P.7's wherever possible. They used their superior manourverablility to position themselves in the sun and then dive on the formations of vulnerable and sluggish Divebombers before turning and engaging their fighter escorts.

The Medium bombers suffered the same fate, jumped by Polish Fighters, who used their smaller planes to position themselves and hit the Bombers head on, where they were less well armoured.

At the same time, more P.23 and P.37 Bombers targeted the German columns, suffering appalling losses to AA fire and the fighter escorts but they still bravely and valiently tried to carry out their mission.

Far from it, the failure of the Luftwaffe to hit the airfields on the first day meant that they had allowed the Polish Air Force to withdraw to hidden airbases scattered throughout the countryside.

Almost every German air attack was met by PZL P.11's and PZL. P.7's wherever possible. They used their superior manourverablility to position themselves in the sun and then dive on the formations of vulnerable and sluggish Divebombers before turning and engaging their fighter escorts.

The Medium bombers suffered the same fate, jumped by Polish Fighters, who used their smaller planes to position themselves and hit the Bombers head on, where they were less well armoured.

At the same time, more P.23 and P.37 Bombers targeted the German columns, suffering appalling losses to AA fire and the fighter escorts but they still bravely and valiently tried to carry out their mission.


The dive bombers suffered immensely, being slower than their Polish adversaries. However the enemy forces engaging the German bombers would find themselves in dire straights. Gun towers from the bombers erupted into fire as they churned out massive levels of weapons fire. Superior German BF-109s and FW-190s soared with them, cutting apart the inferior Polish units as they feebly attempted to fight the He-111s and Do-17s. If the Poles thought they could take on the Luftwaffe, they would be sadly mistaken. And this mistake would cost them dearly in terms of man power and machines.

OOC: FW190's didn't come into service until 1941
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_190

IC:

While the Stukas were hit as hard as promised, the small and manourverable Polish Aircraft managed to evade the majority of the fire from the poorly armed He-111's and Do-17's. In dogfights, the Poles were not at as much as a handicap as the Germans had been led to believe, true they were not as fast or as well armed as their German counterparts but they were more manourverable and they could take a hell of a lot of punishment.

While some of the fighters engaged the German escorts the rest dived out of the sun to fire a burst at the enemy then dive down out of the war and prepare for another run at the Germans.

OOC: I am in Ireland so I am in different time zone to those of you who are in the Unted States.

Also I just wanted to say that I am sorry if my role playing wasn't very detailed or imaginative but I didn't really know what was expected since this is the first time I've done role play.

Okay, back to the story.

IC: Outline of the situation.

1) The German ground forces have occupied the south east of Poland and are trying to get to Warsaw, but are meeting fierce resistance along the way.

2) The German dive bombers were moslty destroyed by the Polish fighers, but we are now bringing in AA reinforcemnents.

3) The last German army that tried to advance from the north was driven back by the French Foriegn Legion (FFL). Now a new army is in Prussia to try advancing from the north for a second time.

IC: Details of the Warsaw situation (1).

The German ground forces only had limited success in bombing out the geurillas in the farms and villages and themselves suffered heavy losses. However one area has been cleared for advance and a so it being well guarded in the hope that they will not suffer a counter attack by enemy guerillas.

IC: Details of the situation in the Air (2).

There are few dive bombers now left to reinforce the losses and so short-range air support will not be avaliable to the Germans for a while now. There have also been some ground casualties due to the explosions of falling aircraft out of the sky. However renewed support from ground AA guns is on its way to aid the front line. This will hopefully hold back the Polish fighters so that bombimg by the Germans bombers will become possible again.

IC: Details of the Northern advancement (3).

We have ready with us another 10 battalions and 300 tanks with 500 guns. Instead of advancing straight to Warsaw from the north we will this time try to secure territories in north and north east Poland. In this area are the cites of Torun and Bialystok. Capturing these cites will be a step forward in our fight against the Polish guerillas.

Well. . . interesting that a mod hasn't noticed this yet

Well. . . interesting that a mod hasn't noticed this yet

No need, theres no problem with it.