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Here's the thread to sign-up for the Top Gun RP. It will be open until Saturday, Jan. 19th, 1200 US Central time.

Please include in your dossier flight experience, and for anyone else supplying an instructor, combat records. Also include the type of plane (real world) your pilot(s) usually fly. Other than that, its just a usual dossier, name/rank, age, etc.

Note: I will RP the initial orientation etc., and Cal, with your permission, I would like to be able to RP your instructor char. if I need to (of course, this is only severely if I need to for some unforseeable reason.

Thanks for joining and let's have a good semester!

OOC: You have my permission to RP him if you need to. Just tell me when, if it comes to that though.

Pilot #1
Name: 1st Lieut Daniel Gerald Hellingburger
Callsign: "Hellfire"
Age: 29
Current Assignment: 1st Air Wing USS Atlas
Flight Experience: 500 Hours F18E & F117
Confirmed Kills: 22

Pilot #2
Name: 1st Lieut Karen Marie Jenkins
Callsign: "Black Widow"
Age: 29
Current Assignment: 1st Air Wing USS Titan
Flight Experience: 550 Hours F18 E
Confirmed Kills 20


You may select either (or both) pilot for this school.

Gen5 Percy Fitz-Wallace
Council Of Commanders Chairman

Name: 2nd Lieutenant Anya Donskoy
Age: 30
Callsign: Raven
Current Assignment: 22nd Air Wing, Battle Roads Air Station
Flight Experience: 430 Hours
Principal Aircraft: SU-35
Confirmed Kills: 17

Pilot:
Name: Lt. Willie Deckard
Callsign: "Maverick"
Age: 32
Current Assignment: F-4H2 squadron leader, Marine Air Wing
Flight Experience: 400 flying F-4 Phantom II (modified avionics, gunpod, and such OK? Otherwise I'll try an Su-34 Fullback or Su-30MKI...)
Confirmed 'Kills':
8 F/A-130 'Stanza' Multirole Stealth planes in a single pass (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12809516&postcount=5)
F/A-103N (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/a_103_stanza.html)

WSO:
Name: 2nd Lt. Rick Armstrong
Age: 34
Callsign, Assignment, Flight times, and kill record is same

Pilot

Name: Lt. James Hunter
Callsign: "Archer"
Age: 26
Current assignment: 6th CAG, NNS Oasis
Flight experience: 200 hours F-18E and F-36 Gladius (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12169974&postcount=97)
Confirmed kills: 11 (exercise kills)

Bio: As one of the younger pilots assigned to the NNS Oasis, James Hunter showed great promise and aptitude during orientation exercies aboard the NNS Oasis. He participated in naval operations in the Nova Atlantic during the Trivalvian Green Revolution, distinguishing himself for his attention to detail and flying finesse when on CAP.

He was involved in the 'battle for the Atlantic' waged between Nationalist Trivalvian ships and the combined Loyalist and Naashan fleets, flying cover for a crippling attack on the enemy capital vessels. During the mission he scored two confirmed hits on enemy shipping with AGM-88 HARM missiles, hampering their ability to fire on attacking elements and undoubtedly saving the lives of fellow pilots.

Not deployed to Nova Britannia during the TPF'ian war, he survived the brutal air attacks that effectively destroyed Naashan naval power in the region and has become something of a talisman within his own Carrier Group; the closest thing to an ace that still remains in the fleet.

Pilot

Name: Lt. Anna Sharp
Callsign: "Angel"
Age: 29
Current assignment: Sussex AFB, Trivalvia.
Flight experience: 350 hours F-18E and F-40 Bird of Prey (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12078638&postcount=76).
Confirmed kills: 12 (8 exercise, 3 Questarian Hawker Cossacks)

Bio: Formerly assigned to the NNS Valiance, Lt. Anna Sharp excelled in air to air combat during exercises in the build up to the Nova Britannia war. Nicknamed "Angel" by her comrades due to her penchant for intercepting enemy missiles in flight, she quickly progressed up the ranks of pilots aboard the carrier and was among the first pilots to receive the coveted new F-40 Bird of Prey from Dartia.

During operations in the TPF'ian war, she was one of the first pilots scrambled to meet the Questarian bombers that would inflict so much damage on the Nova Britannia Taskforce, scoring three kills on retreating enemy aircraft. She also intercepted two enemy anti-shipping missiles with her remaining ordinance, but the Valiance was among those vessels sunk despite the brave efforts of its pilots.

Now based in Trivalvia with the remnants of her squadron, Anna Sharp was selected to travel to the Free United States and show that Naasha was still a significant air power.

Pilots

Pilot #1
Name: 2nd Lt Mikhail Soryu
Callsign: "Hammer"
Age: 36
Current Assignment: 22nd Fighter Group, UES Fort Grace
Flight Experience: 820 hours Yak-38(Original tester), 350 hours AV-88R Red Harrier
Confirmed Kills: 47 (10 Vs US, 34 vs DWV, 3 vs Unknown)

Pilot #2
Name: 1st Lt Ryoko Serizoa
Callsign: "Shamrock"
Age: 27
Current Assignment: 4th Air Wing, UES Granzon
Flight Experience: 460 Hours AV-88R Red Harrier
Confirmed Kills 20 (vs DWV)

Pilot #3
Name: Kyosuke Dowlln
Callsign: "Iron"
Age: 29
Current Assignment: 1st Air Defence Group, Jasonsgrad Air Center
Flight Experoence: 350 Hours F-16 Block 60
Confirmed Kills: 13 (vs DWV)

United Commonwealth Royal Air Force Pilots

Personnel Rank & Name: Captain Lewis 'Sheriff' Johnston
Age: 32
Service Branch: Navy
Current Assignment: 305th Flying Bulls Squadron, HMDS. Victory Carrier Based
Aircraft: F/A-18 E & EA-18G Growler
Flight experience: 375 hours
Confirmed kills: 3
Bio: Enlisting after high school when he was 19 then enrolling into the Royal Military University, he was a promising leader and tactician in the sky. Although he my not fly the best, he knows what your going to do before you even know.

Personnel Rank & Name: Lieutenant Sean 'Mojo' Highbourne
Age: 29
Service Branch: Navy
Current Assignment: 305th Flying Bulls Squadron, HMDS. Victory Carrier Based
Aircraft: F/A-18 E & EA-18G Growler
Flight experience: 170 hours
Confirmed kills: 0
Bio: Born from an Army family, he was expected to join with the Army, but the idea of flying caught his attention at a recruitment station in one of his local malls. After applying for Air Force, he was quickly transfered to the Navy, where several new carriers required more talented pilots. Constantly flying and pushing his aircraft to the limits, he is a foe to be reckoned with, but has much to learn.

I can add more info as need be and you can borrow the instructor when you need him.

Pilot (Trainee)

Name: 2nd Lt. (OF-1) Jake Tuner
Callsign: N/A
Age: 24
Current Assignment: 7th Training Wing
Flight experience: 150 hours in a MiG-29UBM and 12 hours in a MiG-29SMT
Confirmed kills: 0
Exercise Kills: 2

OOC: I know I've signed up, but here's my character's bio:

Personnel Rank & Name: Colonel John Arnold
Age: 47
Service Branch: Air Force
Current Assignment: 163rd Fighter Squadron, March AB
Aircraft: F-15K Strike Eagle (w/AESA upgrade), with 1,200 hours also in the F/B-22 Strike Raptor, also earlier flew F-4F ICE 2000's with the 144th Fighter Group.
Flight experience: 8,375 hours
Confirmed kills: 38, twelve probables, seventeen damaged.
Bio: He first tried to join the Calizorinstanian Navy, but was denied, and then he joined the Air Force at 23 years of age, first flying F-4E models with the 122nd Fighter Squadron at Norton AB, then going to the F-4F ICE 2000 model with the 144th, and then he went to the F-15D model at Luke AB, Arizona territory as a flight instructor.

When he was with the 122nd Fighter Squadron, they were activated on the mission against the Khilistanian Rebels, Operation Cobra Strike, in that war, he gained 17 out of his 38 standing air to air kills against Mig-29's and 27's.

Then, with the 144th, he got 6, in Operation: Eagle Raid, which was the second against the Khilistanian armed rebel forces. That is 23 out of the 38 standing air to air kills. He flew the F-15D model primarily as an instructor.

He flew the F-15E model during the first Calizorinstanian Civil War, shooting down 8 MIG-21 Lancer 2000s. Now, that's 31 out of 38, then the last seven were during the last Civil War, against the ancient MIG-15's of the "peasant" Red Star Air Force.

Name: Serilius Den'Ja
Callsign: "Panther"
Rank: Major
Age: 29
Preferred Aircraft: F-5 Tiger
Experience: 612 Hours of Training (ICFS)
Branch: Kal'Har Airforce, formerly IDMAC
Species: Kal'Har
Kills: N/A

Personnel Rank & Name: Lt. Phillip Katz
Age: 20
Callsign: Ghostrider
Service Branch: Air Force
Current Assignment: 138th Tactical Fighter Squadron, Rigley AFB
Aircraft: F/A-15 Cardinal, Pa-21 Fireman (future assignment when aircraft completed)
Flight experience: 841 hours
Confirmed kills: none
Bio: Entered Air Force Academy at age 16 after impressing recruiter in flight simulator. Records show that in this simulator he took down the lead flight instructor in a one-on-one dogfight in less than five minutes. Graduating at the age of 20, he was assigned to the 138th TFS based out of Rigley AFB. While at Rigley, he has flown several interdiction sorties against Rosbani aircraft violating the DMZ, though no shots were ever fired. Has shown himself to be a natural fighter pilot and quick learner, however in search of a challenge he has come to Top Gun looking to match up with the world's best.

Trainees

Rank & Name: Flight Sergeant Jack ''Mac'' Mackinnis
Age: 28
Unit & Service: Orbathain Air Force, 1st Fighter Flight, 16th
Aircraft Flown: F/A-16 Priest
Squadron
Flight Time: 610 Hours
Confirmed Kills: None

Jack joined the Air Force reserves at 16 and loved it. Upon turning 18, he transfered over to the regular force. During his training he scored top of his class on all tests. In simulated combat he shot down every classmate at least once, he himself never being shot down, not even by the instructors. After training he was posted to 1st Fighter Flight, where he flies air patrols over Orbath.

Rank & Name: Flight Sergeant Steven ''Showtime'' Sanchez
Age: 26
Unit & Service: Orbathain Navy, ONS Doom
Aircraft Flown: F-40 Bird of Prey
Flight Time: 578 Hours
Confirmed Kills: 0

Steven joined the navy originally to become a sailor. He served on board several warships, including Doom, as a radar operator. During his time on Doom, he made friends with several Navy pilots. He soon became hooked on the idea of flying. He spent nearly a year awaiting the chance to attend training. During training, he scored well on all his tests, getting top marks on most. After training he was posted to the ONS Overstrike, but was transfered to the Doom a year later. During his Naval career, he has flown hundreds of air patrols over Orbathain waters.

I'd like to sign up for aggressor training, if at all possible

Nomenclature: Major Vigdis 'Fader' Eriksdotter
Age: 27
Service: Kunglig Flygvapen av Velkya
Aircraft Proficiency: TA-32 'Vsvälja' general jet trainer, JAS-72 'Orn' tactical interceptor aircraft
Combat Squadron: 542 Taktisk Snappa upp Gruppen
Career Flight Hours: 5000+ hours
Confirmed Career Kills: Two Ni-81 'Marker' strategic intelligence aircraft (Arrutian Soviet Republics Strategic Aviation)

Nomenclature: Örlogskapten Mikael 'Dåre' Nilsson
Age: 29
Service: Kunglig Orlogsflotta av Velkya
Aircraft Proficiency: TA-32N 'Vsvälja-N' general navalized jet trainer, JAS-81 'Sparv' naval multirole strike aircraft, JS-62 'Gam' naval interceptor aircraft
Combat Squadron: 121 Orlogsflotta Snappa upp Anfalla Gruppen
Career Flight Hours: 7000+ hours
Confirmed Career Kills: One Mi-21 'Flapjack' naval fighter-bomber (Arrutian Soviet Republics Naval Aviation)

Pilots would like to be aggressor pilots. Preferably assigned with the Velkyans.

Personnel Rank & Name: Capt. Melissa Gatz
Age: 24
Callsign: Nevermore
Service Branch: Naval Air Arm, Skyian Navy
Current Assignment: 1st Tactical Fighter Squadron, SRNS Ankaraa
Aircraft: F-33 Raven Air Superiority and Strike Fighter; ACI-73A(F-73A) AQVILA(Eagle); F/A-84 'Shadow' Stealth Air Superiority Fighter [Current]
Flight experience: 6,000+ hours
Confirmed kills: 3 Dogfighting Kills, 1 Long Range Kills [AWACs] 4 Probable Kills [Long Range AAMs into a mass of fighters].
Bio: Joined the Naval Air Arm Academy at Comberth Harbor at the age of 17 she participated in every major Skyian war in the last nine years due to her deployment in the 1st Naval Fleet [considered to be the front line elite of the Skyian Navy], including the Red Tide Invasion, British Londinium Conflicts, Nova Europan War, Czardazian Wars. She has participated in almost every mission type imaginable, escort, strike, air superiority, SEAD, etc.

Personnel Rank & Name: Capt. Kurtz Sagara
Age: 28
Callsign: Raven
Service Branch: Naval Air Arm, Skyian Navy
Current Assignment: 5th Tactical Fighter Squadron, SRNS Ankaraa
Aircraft: F-620 "Xeon" Air Superiority Fighter; F-33 Raven Air Superiority and Strike Fighter; F-63K Tengriy Definitive Air Superiority Fighter; ACI-73A(F-73A) AQVILA(Eagle); F/A-84 'Shadow' Stealth Air Superiority Fighter [Current]
Flight experience: 8,000+ hours
Confirmed kills: 2 Dog fighting Kills, 6 Long Range Kills [AWACs/Bombers] 8 Probable Kills [Long Range AAMs into a mass of fighters].
Bio: Much the same as above.

Name: Major Natsumi Ishihara, callsign "KANARIYA"
Age: 24
Branch: Tyrandis Federal Air Service
Aircraft: Qualified in MAKO trainer aircraft, TF-62 "Xeon" Air Superiority Fighter, TF-70 "Shukusei" Air Superiority Fighter
Squadron: 52nd Fighter Regiment, 556th Fighter Squadron
Flight Experience: 2880 hrs total
Combat Experience: 0 confirmed kills; flew numerous combat sorties during the ViZionarian Civil War

ok, for those w/o pairs, I will arbitrarily pair you with another pilot, one pilot w/ a lot of experience and one that has less experience. If anyone has any pairings that would be problematic (ie. sworn enemies) let me know and I'll make changes. This will be done once all sign-ups are complete. That means the real RP won't begin until then, so give me a couple days, please.

Orbath, this school is to train pilots in dogfighting skills. We don't have the time to train someone who has 0 flight hours. if you want, you can change his stats or switch him out, but zero experience is a no-no. Sorry for not explaining this.

Cal, let me know what exactly you want to be an instructor of, please.

And wow, I can't believe how many ppl have signed up! this is really amazing for my first RP. (gotta calm down).

Also, I wanted to run this idea by all of you. In the end, there is to be a pilot named Top Gun. In order to rank the pilots, there has to be some sort of system. I was thinking of weekly tests that I would post (5 mult. choice and 5 short-answer). does this sound completely ridiculous? I tihnk maybe it does, so lemme know if you have suggestions.

Pilot Name: Sango Karyuudo
Rank: Colonel
Age: 39
Callsigns: Hunter, Sophomore
Service: Terran Air Force, nominally assigned to the Terran Strategic Operations Command
Current Assignment: 184th Bombardment Wing, 4th "Shitotachi" (Apostles) Heavy Bomber Squadron
Past Aircraft: B-52H Stratofortress, B-2A Spirit, KJ-28 Ryugu-Jo
Current Aircraft: B-1B Lancer ("Bone"), name "The Emperor's Own"
Flight experience: 8,400+ hours
Confirmed aerial kills: 1 MiG-23UB (20mm M61 Vulcan Cannon, B-52H tailgunner position), 1 MiG-29SM (20mm M61 Vulcan Cannon, B-52H tailgunner position)
Confirmed ground kills: 48 armored vehicles, 118 unarmored vehicles, 17 air defense sites, 28 facilities
Biography: Colonel Sango "Hunter" Karyuudo is among the most experienced pilots in the Terran Air Force, and he has refused several promotions in order to remain in the pilot's seat of his beloved bombers. A former tailgunner in the venerable B-52H for the last 3 years of its service, following the removal of this position he was accepted for retraining as a pilot for the B-2A, then later moved to the B-1B Lancer program. He excelled in every aspect of training and quickly rose through the ranks until he became a Colonel, in command of the famous 184th Bombardment Wing.
Colonel Karyuudo has since then refused promotion to Brigadier General on 5 separate occasions, wishing to stay with the 184th, in particular the 4th "Shitotachi" squadron. He is notable as the only (and perhaps last) bomber pilot in the Terran Air Force to have gun kills, earned when he shot down pursuing enemy aircraft on two occasions as they closed on the "helpless" B-52. His other callsign, "Sophomore", is in reference both to his 2 kills and the fact that he has accumulated over a year in flight hours as a result of his insistence on constant training.
Regarded as an exceptional leader with the ability to create unusual tactics on the fly, he is well-liked by Terran High Command, who only hope that he'll act his age one day and accept a promotion.

Pilot Name: Eric Ren
Rank: Captain
Age: 28
Callsigns: Redout
Service: Terran Air Force, nominally assigned to the Terran Strategic Operations Command
Current Assignment: 184th Bombardment Wing, 4th "Shitotachi" (Apostles) Heavy Bomber Squadron
Past Aircraft: None
Current Aircraft: B-1B Lancer ("Bone"), name "The Emperor's Own"
Flight experience: 2,900+ hours
Confirmed aerial kills: None
Confirmed ground kills: 18 armored vehicles, 45 unarmored vehicles, 3 air defense sites, 5 facilities
Biography: Captain Eric "Redout" Ren is, for lack of a better term, one of Colonel Karyuudo's protégés. It is a position that he values very highly, and many expect him to mature into a fantastic commander...if he doesn't get himself, and everybody that he flies with, killed first.
He earned his callsign, "Redout", from a series of incidents where he pulled nearly suicidal nose-over dives to avoid enemy aircraft. The resulting series of experiences with high negative-g forces should have theoretically killed him, but after every examination he comes out the very picture of perfect health. He is renowned as one of the finest low-altitude bomber pilots in the Command, and more than one Systems Officer has requested transfer to another aircraft after deciding that Captain Ren flies "too low" for their joy of living. He has flown the same B-1B, nicknamed The Emperor's Own, for his entire career; this factor has apparently been a key part of his success.
Although he's a fantastic pilot, he lacks the innovation of his commanding officer; together, however, they represent one of the finest teams in all of Haven.

Orbath, this school is to train pilots in dogfighting skills. We don't have the time to train someone who has 0 flight hours. if you want, you can change his stats or switch him out, but zero experience is a no-no. Sorry for not explaining this.

Also, I wanted to run this idea by all of you. In the end, there is to be a pilot named Top Gun. In order to rank the pilots, there has to be some sort of system. I was thinking of weekly tests that I would post (5 mult. choice and 5 short-answer). does this sound completely ridiculous? I tihnk maybe it does, so lemme know if you have suggestions.

Sorry, typo. I like the multiple choice idea because it puts us all on a level playing field.

The quizzes sound good by me. Several years spent playing every fighter-sim known to mankind and just studying fighter-culture in general will finally pay off.

ok, then. i'll pull all nighters to make up the weekly curriculums, then. i've decided to start classes as M-F. the first post will be a lecture. after that, pilots will fly out and practice the maneuvers they've learned/get instruction et al. so, for the most part, you just RP your char. learning the trade. if you make a mistake in your flying, either i or Cal will 'radio' you and correct you.

again, Cal, when you tell me what you wanna teach, i want to assign you certain days to teach. that'll take some of the load off of me. you can also submit what questions from your lessons should be on the test.

oh, and about the lectures. before we all fly off into the blue, you can ask questions from your 'instructors.'

Name: Major Natsumi Ishihara, callsign "KANARIYA"
Age: 24
Branch: Tyrandis Federal Air Service
Aircraft: Qualified in MAKO trainer aircraft, TF-62 "Xeon" Air Superiority Fighter, TF-70 "Shukusei" Air Superiority Fighter
Squadron: 52nd Fighter Regiment, 556th Fighter Squadron
Flight Experience: 2880 hrs total
Combat Experience: 0 confirmed kills; flew numerous combat sorties during the ViZionarian Civil War

wlecome. please let me know what real-world aircraft the TF-62 and TF-70 are comperable to, as those are the only aircraft i am allowing into this RP.

PS: um, i wanna post pictures and stuff up here, but for some reason, i don' have those options when i post replies. does nayone know how to fix this?

If the TF-70 is the fighter I remember, it's this (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=324) design, which is epic to the point that it is utterly incompatible with anything that will fly in the next 30 years or so. Beautiful, but hard to correlate with anything we have today.

If you get past the marketing speak, it has similar performance to an F-22 although with a smaller infrared and radar profile. The latter is pretty much negligible though in terms of practical value. Better avionics too, but this comes at the cost of insane maintenance requirements and expense. Mostly I took stuff that was supposed to be used in the ATF project, but never made it in because of rapidly escalating expenses.

ed: If it's going to be a problem, I can use the F/A-15 that the Candrian Empire is entering as well.

ok, for those w/o pairs, I will arbitrarily pair you with another pilot, one pilot w/ a lot of experience and one that has less experience. If anyone has any pairings that would be problematic (ie. sworn enemies) let me know and I'll make changes. This will be done once all sign-ups are complete. That means the real RP won't begin until then, so give me a couple days, please.

Orbath, this school is to train pilots in dogfighting skills. We don't have the time to train someone who has 0 flight hours. if you want, you can change his stats or switch him out, but zero experience is a no-no. Sorry for not explaining this.

Cal, let me know what exactly you want to be an instructor of, please.

And wow, I can't believe how many ppl have signed up! this is really amazing for my first RP. (gotta calm down).

Also, I wanted to run this idea by all of you. In the end, there is to be a pilot named Top Gun. In order to rank the pilots, there has to be some sort of system. I was thinking of weekly tests that I would post (5 mult. choice and 5 short-answer). does this sound completely ridiculous? I tihnk maybe it does, so lemme know if you have suggestions.

I'd like to be an instructor in the air to air, and the air to ground section also, seeing as how my guy has some air to ground kills also.

OOC: If you need more instructors I can always bring in one of my old timers and/or my current head-of-state, who's a decorated Air Force vet and former instructor and pupil at Cazelia's flight school.

If you get past the marketing speak, it has similar performance to an F-22 although with a smaller infrared and radar profile. The latter is pretty much negligible though in terms of practical value. Better avionics too, but this comes at the cost of insane maintenance requirements and expense. Mostly I took stuff that was supposed to be used in the ATF project, but never made it in because of rapidly escalating expenses.

ed: If it's going to be a problem, I can use the F/A-15 that the Candrian Empire is entering as well.

If ppl are going to use their tricked out NS planes I'd expect to be allowed to use the modified F-4H2 Phantom II in my nation's service.

Since I see:
(Many of the links are for lulz, and until proven otherwise are correct)
2 AV-88R 'Red Harriers' (May nerf down to AV-8 Harrier II stats)
1 F/A-15 Cardinals (may nerf down to F-15K stats)
1 "F-36 Gladious (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12169974&postcount=97)" (Not to be confused with the P-36 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-36_Hawk))
1 TF-62/70 (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=324) (May nerf to F-22 stats)
1 F-40 'bird of prey' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-40_Warhawk)
1 Jas-72 'Orn' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YF-12)
1 Jas-81 'Sparv' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-80_Shooting_Star)
2 F/A-84 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-84_Thunderjet) 'Shadow'

Middle:
1 F-16 'Priest?' (May nerf to F-16 Falcon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-16) stats)
1 F-4H2 Phantom II (May nerf to Su-30MKI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-30MKI) stats)


In the more typical lane we see:
4 F/A-18E Super Hornets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F/A-18E)
1 SU-35 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su-35)
2 MiG-29SMT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mig-29) (Aircraft carrier based MiG-29)
1 F-5 Tiger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-5_Tiger)
1 F-15K (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15K) or F/A-22 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-22)

W/o and /w/ nerfed stats
10/21 planes are NS grade 6/21
9/21 are confirmed RL tech 15/21
2/21 are somewhere in between 0/21

I think that at this point we're going about this in the wrong fashion. The point of Top Gun is to develop ACM skills, not to "win". For the purposes of these exercises, the candidates should all be piloting a single type of aircraft, while the instructors should all be piloting one or two different types of aircraft. Clouding this entire exercise with techno-speak, airplane stats and number crunching will inevitably lead to fingers pointing and the RP falling apart.

I believe that the OP requested that we make use of real-life aircraft or their NS equivalents to establish a middle-ground, but I honestly don't see why we can't all just be happy with F-15s, F-16s or F/A-18s, for example. As a final "closer" to this RP perhaps it would be fun to deploy the bleeding-edge of each nation's air force, but for the purposes of training attempting to gain a technological advantage through your own aircraft just seems a little...petty.

I apologize to the OP; let's not hijack his thread. :)

FA 15 Cardinal + FA 16 Priest are both my designs.


Personnel Rank & Name: Lt. Col Lucas Rosales
Age: 37
Callsign: 'ROSIE'
Service Branch: CAF Forward Strategic Action Command FORSACOM
Current Assignment: A(A/G)(S4)A Air Combat Exercise School ACES
Aircraft:
T1 "Tryke" 101 hrs as per Basic Flight Training School
T4 "Robin" 102 hrs as per BFTS
T3 "Goblin" 157 hrs as per Advanced Maneuvers - BFTS
TOG-1 105 hrs as per Squadron Assimilation Training
F1 Bulldog 433 hrs
TOG-9 102 hrs as per SAT
F-9 Bishop 621 hrs
TOGA-15 - 121 hrs as per SAT
FA-15A/C/D/G 1,312 hrs
TOGB-15 1310 hrs ACES INSTRUCTION

Flight experience: 4364 hrs Total Flight Time, 688 Training Flight Time (OCU+Training, excluding instruction FT), 2366 hrs Combat Capable Flight Time
Confirmed kills: 2 Confirmed Kills (Frozopian Rebel MiG-29A Fighters via PCM-2, F-1 Bulldog)
Bio: Lucas Rosales, one of the few active CAF pilots with a kill to their credit, has served in the Air Force for nearly 19 years, seeing action in Frozopia before the end of hostilities. Rosales has been instrumental in the reformation of ACES flight school, having teamed with S4 to develop current Candrian doctrine, and to fit the mold of Candrian fighter pilots rightly to it. Heavily versed in theory, Rosales consistently preaches some of the more advanced air combat maneuvers aircraft like the FA-15 permit, procedures such as variations on the Herbst maneuver, kulbits, cobra turns and the "knuckle-ball slip" (a horizontal variation), many of which have proven useful in WVR-components of GRAND BANNER exercises.



Personnel Rank & Name: Lt. Ramille Devalencia
Age: 24
Callsign: "RED DEVIL"
Service Branch: CAF Forward Strategic Action Command FORSACOM
Current Assignment: 1121-11 SFS Melaias "WATCHMEN"
Aircraft:
T1 "Tryke" 104 hrs as per Basic Flight Training School
T4 "Robin" 101 hrs as per BFTS
T3 "Goblin" 152 hrs as per Advanced Maneuvers - BFTS
TOGA-15 - 137 hrs as per SAT
FA-D/G 752 hrs
TOGB-15 433 hrs ACES TRAINING

Flight experience: 1679 Total Flight Time, 927 Training Flight Time (OCU+Training, excluding instruction FT), 752 hrs Combat Capable Flight Time
Confirmed kills: 0 Confirmed Kills
Bio: The highest scoring pilot in the GRAND BANNER EAST exercises the past two years, Ramille Lucile Devalencia is part of a strong tradition of female pilots in the CAF. Ramille joined the CAF under the instigation of her grandfather, Juan Devalencia, one of the most decorated pilots in the war for liberation in '69 and one of the first instructers of ACES, then known as ECAC. His influence and first-hand experience no doubt aided in Ramille's incredible skills, and Ramille graduated ACES with honors, being attached to FORSACOM's 11th Strategic Fighter Squad, of the 1141 Strategic Group. Under the 11th, Ramille heads the fighter squads that are charged with protection of the Capital, WATCHMEN.


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I think we should just use a single spec plane, sorta like what Juums planned on doing a while back with the F4 knockoff.

*an Unt. Est. AV-88R Is just a AV-8 Harrier II, with new hardpoint for our mostly russian weapons. So for future refferance, It'll just be a Harrier II.

[blows loud coach whistle]

All right, I think I need to restate something here. People will arrive in their own aircraft, given clearance by NADC (Nat'l Air Defense Cmd) and land @ Neiflheim ADB. From then on, they will be ISSUED training aircraft, starting w/ F-20A Tigersharks and eventually to F-15E/Fs or FA-18E/Fs. Ancient and Holy has it right; this is not a pissing contest, merely a school for teachng ACM. But, as w/ real Top Gun, there is a person who is declared the 'winner.' This will be determined mainly through the WRITTEN TESTS given at the end of each course week. All support elements will be provided by Commonwealth forces.

Sorry I had to be a bit forceful, but c'mon guys, be reasonable.

[blows loud coach whistle]

All right, I think I need to restate something here. People will arrive in their own aircraft, given clearance by NADC (Nat'l Air Defense Cmd) and land @ Neiflheim ADB. From then on, they will be ISSUED training aircraft, starting w/ F-20A Tigersharks and eventually to F-15E/Fs or FA-18E/Fs. Ancient and Holy has it right; this is not a pissing contest, merely a school for teachng ACM. But, as w/ real Top Gun, there is a person who is declared the 'winner.' This will be determined mainly through the WRITTEN TESTS given at the end of each course week. All support elements will be provided by Commonwealth forces.

Sorry I had to be a bit forceful, but c'mon guys, be reasonable.

OOC: As an instructor, will my character be issued an aircraft along with the others, and since he's an instructor, he's not qualifying for Top Gun is he?

OOC: As an instructor, will my character be issued an aircraft along with the others, and since he's an instructor, he's not qualifying for Top Gun is he?

You're faculty, so no you can't win Homecoming King (umm, that's a metaphorical joke, but you get the idea, right?).

Since IPs will act as the Agressors, I was mainly going to place them in Agressor fighters, such as Mig-21s, etc. However, towards the end, the instructors, AND ONLY THE INSTRUCTORS, will fly their own planes, making it more challenging. Also, I'd like to have it one lesson a day, so could you handle TRs (Tues. & Thurs.)?

Prestonia, that would help me out a bunch. Give me a char. and what you want to teach and I'll add yuo to the faculty.

PS: since i'm a historian, my lessons will mainly focus on history of combat/real life scenarios taken from real world wars. I plan on my classes being MWF, but I will change it once me and the other instructors (Cal and Prestonia) figure out the loose ends.

You're faculty, so no you can't win Homecoming King (umm, that's a metaphorical joke, but you get the idea, right?).

Since IPs will act as the Agressors, I was mainly going to place them in Agressor fighters, such as Mig-21s, etc. However, towards the end, the instructors, AND ONLY THE INSTRUCTORS, will fly their own planes, making it more challenging. Also, I'd like to have it one lesson a day, so could you handle TRs (Tues. & Thurs.)?

Prestonia, that would help me out a bunch. Give me a char. and what you want to teach and I'll add yuo to the faculty.

PS: since i'm a historian, my lessons will mainly focus on history of combat/real life scenarios taken from real world wars. I plan on my classes being MWF, but I will change it once me and the other instructors (Cal and Prestonia) figure out the loose ends.

Ah, okay, that'd be very cool. I could handle TRs for sure, any MIG would do as an agressor plane.

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Makes sense to me, and I agree...

Though I would like vectored thrust and the use of off-boresight ASRAAMs in the upper tier aircraft.

Something like Yak-130s for mid-level and Su-30s for advanced?
(Though a T-38 would be OK)

And I'm still going to drag along a WSO though. If I absolutely have to split the pilot and WSO, then I will give them seprate planes with the more experianced pilot as wingman.

I can teach whatever you want/need me to. Character follows below:

Personnel Rank & Name: Col. Lewis Morgan
Age: 47
Callsign: Viper
Service Branch: Prestonian Air Force; Tactical Air Command
Current Assignment: 138th TFS, Rigley AFB
Aircraft:
T-38 Talon, F/A 15 Cardinal

Flight experience: 4,763 Hours
Confirmed kills: 24 confirmed kills, 17 probable, 5 damaged
Bio: Col. Morgan comes from one of the most prestigious fighter families in Prestonia. A fifth-generation fighter pilot, he grew up around fighter culture from an early age and by age 12 had earned his pilot's license. At age 17 he entered the Air Force Academy, where he excelled in all fields. At the tender age of 19, he was pulled from the Academy and pressed into the Fifth Presto-Granatian war, where he earned his first kills. Records show that within a month, he had become an ace. Throughout the course of the war he racked up an astounding 24 confirmed kills, becoming the highest scoring pilot in Prestonian history. At the close of the war he was assigned to the 138th TFS, where he has remained ever since. Among his notable pupils are Steven Preston and Micheal "Peewee" Douglas, both of whom exceeded fifteen kills. His current pupil, Lt. Katz, has been hailed as one of his best prospects to date. Despite his age, his fighting skills are without question and he still lives up to his callsign.

Ok, here's my tentative class schedule (lectures only):

Week 1

Monday
(Me) Intro. Flight Dynamics/Physics

Tuesday
Cal->Lesson on BFM

Wednesday
(Me) WWI: The Emergence of the Ace

Thursday
Cal-> More BFM

Friday
Prestonia-> Tactics of an Engagement

Hopefully by Saturday I'll have lesson plans made up.

Note: I will TG you, Cal and Pres, on what those titles mean, though I hope you already have some idea. Also, Colonel Morgan will be given an F-15F Strike Eagle (single seat).

Hurtful, if you don't want to split them up, there are some wingmen I can assign you to. I do want everyone to have the basic two-fighter flight, so once everyone's tallied up...I said this already, didn't I?

If they have to be split to fit in their planes then they'll be split to fit in their planes.

It depends entirely on whether or not 2 seaters are accomodated and if there is another Pilot/WSO team.
(My WSO's still had to learn to fly as co-pilot anyways, so he's fully qualified to fly lead, and the pilot has enough experiance in a pilot's seat to know how to aim and fire a missile himself in the event his WSO goes out)

If they aren't to be split though, I would like another 2 seater plane to be paired with them.

As there are noted differances between the engagement capabilities of a single and a double seater. Though a double isn't as good as 2 singles (in theory).

BFM = Basic Flight Mechanics (and how they relate to the stats on a plane), right?

We fly mainly one seaters but I do have two other pilots who I can send to be WSO's. I'm slightly confused as to if that is needed or not. Let me know.

Ok, for those w/ WSOs, the F/A-18F will be given to them for use. That is a two-seater Super Hornet. I'm not usre if there are other two-man teams though, so if Phil sends a team, i'll pair that team w/ Hurtful's, if that's fine w/ you all. I think it would be interesting to see two dif. ppl actually interacting in this environment.

BFM= Basic Fighter Maneuvers; though I guess Mechanics works too.

Ok, for those w/ WSOs, the F/A-18F will be given to them for use. That is a two-seater Super Hornet. I'm not usre if there are other two-man teams though, so if Phil sends a team, i'll pair that team w/ Hurtful's, if that's fine w/ you all. I think it would be interesting to see two dif. ppl actually interacting in this environment.

BFM= Basic Fighter Maneuvers; though I guess Mechanics works too.

It would be interesting but I'm not up for that, no offense to hurtful, I'll stick to the two pilots I'm sending, Black Widow will fly with Hellfire as her WSO. She won the coin flip.

Oddly, I'm actually enjoying the idea of splitting the Pilot/WSO into seprate planes.

My pilot is superb at controling a plane (Advanced fighter training), and thinks on his feet. However, he hasn't been given specialised aircraft weapons training (so he probly won't rely on his scopes too much).

My WSO is an average pilot with a fast tactical mind, and knows ECM like the back of his hand. (He can fly, land, and take-off, but generally may not how to use VIFFing correctly in a dogfight, not that VIFFing is an option in this RP...)

Ah well, maybe they can practice both in singles and doubles?

F/A-18E's and F's eh?

It would be interesting but I'm not up for that, no offense to hurtful, I'll stick to the two pilots I'm sending, Black Widow will fly with Hellfire as her WSO. She won the coin flip.

ok, maybe school just tired me out an' i'm not thinking right...are you sending two pilots and their WSOs? because if you only send one 'plane,' i'll pair you up w/ someone. that's how it works.

PS: this is to all participants; you get that there are to be no "Maverick" types in this RP, right? In Real life, Cruise's char. woulda been brought up on charges, and would probably have been kicked out.

Note: If the callsign is Maverick, that's perfectly acceptable. I just wanted ppl to make sure hey knew this is supposed to be as close to Top Gun as we can get.

No sorry it's probably the way I'm putting it.

One Plane, One Pilot, One WSO. I originally had two planes (single seat) but if we're using two seaters my pilots will ride together. Make more sense now?

No sorry it's probably the way I'm putting it.

One Plane, One Pilot, One WSO. I originally had two planes (single seat) but if we're using two seaters my pilots will ride together. Make more sense now?

yesh, perfectly. though, like i said, i will pair you up w/ another plane. no one flies solo. if we have odd numbers, would you mind if we split them up? of course, that is only a contingency.

It appears to me this is going to be an "all American" aircraft school. How about those of us who use aircraft from, lets say Russia (like me)? It's unrealistic to say my pilots are trained in such aircraft since they have no experience with one (only the more experienced pilots do). Is it okay for my pilot to be a black sheep and use a Mig instead of a Hornet or what have you?

So... are they going to be using two-seaters or single-seaters? If it's two seaters, I have to dig up Dev's O and another ACES instructor for the role >_>

Again, there will be training of both single-seat and of two-seat fighters. It's really up to you what you want to do and how many ppl you can RP at once.

Mu, mostly, Agressors will fly Migs, but I can see how you'd want to use them. My AF also uses Migs and Sukoi's to supplement its NATO planes. So, you'll start w/ a Mig-21 and graduate up to a Mig-29 or better. Is that cool?

ok, change of plans. send two pilots. period. if you've already got four guys coming, we'll Ace Combat them (ie. unacknowledged). as it is, you can only take the tests once....so, yeah.

Sorry, two pilots or a pilot and a WSO?

pilots. We're gonna Ace Combat the WSOs/RIOs whatever (as in, they're there but not a factor).

Are we going to make it so that our pilots get to train with different wing-men to get used to addition and learn new styles on some missions?

Again, there will be training of both single-seat and of two-seat fighters. It's really up to you what you want to do and how many ppl you can RP at once.

Mu, mostly, Agressors will fly Migs, but I can see how you'd want to use them. My AF also uses Migs and Sukoi's to supplement its NATO planes. So, you'll start w/ a Mig-21 and graduate up to a Mig-29 or better. Is that cool?

Okay, thats cool. Can it be the MiG-21-9, the MiG-21-9 is basically a more modern version of the Mig-21, variant though? So that I can compete with the Hornets on fair terms? I know am not expected to fight against them in training, but it really sucks, and embarrassing, when your the last one to do everything from taking-off to trying to get a radar lock on an Agressor.

I'm game, but the pilots I am sending are part of the Karshkovian Air Commands 199th "Black Dragons" Su-33 squadron (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LDpm7kA0iWU). They are both ex-Russian pilots which have immigrated to Karshkovia. Captain Dimitri "Lev" Andropov and First Lieutenant Matryonan Bazhukov, the pilots which have recorded Karshkovia's only ground kill in combat (http://youtube.com/watch?v=4mUZ4zgvAvE) when they attacked and sank the Rawal Kah (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547720). Karshkovia has sent them to brush up on their training and learn how to teach student pilots a few tricks on becoming better air combat pilots.


Personnel Rank & Name: Captain Dimitri Andropov
Age: 39
Callsign: лев (or "Lion" in English)
Service Branch: Karshkovian Naval Air Command
Current Assignment: 199th TFS, военно-морская основа забастовки четыре (Naval Strike Base Four, Volograd)
Aircraft: Su-33
Flight experience: 3,139 Hours
Confirmed kills: 1 confirmed kill (ground)

Bio: Captain Andropov Pavlov is the son of a test pilot. After graduating from secondary school in 1990, he joined the Karshkovia Higher Military Aviation School for Fighter Pilots. He graduated with honors in 1996, receiving his Pilot-Engineer diploma.

Cpt. Pavlov served as a fighter pilot in the Soviet Air Force until 2000, when he left the military to enroll in the Ministry of Aviation Industry Test Pilot School. Upon graduation, he was assigned to his test position as an experimental test pilot at the Gromov Flight Research Institute and Russian Federal Space Agency. In 2007 he left Russia for various reasons and took Karshkovian citizenship.

He has helped in orgainizing the Karshkovian Air Command and is a valued member of it's military. His total flight experience includes more than 2500 flight hours (4000 flights) in more than 20 types and modifications of aircraft. He often performs in flight demonstrations and helping to train new pilots. When Pavlov is not flying, he enjoys spending his time mountain skiing or parachuting. He has one of Karshkovia's only ground kills in combat. He also holds the Karshkovian Cross of Merit.

He is the only Karshkovian who is a trained Russian Cosmonaut and is helping to head up Karshkovia's new space program.


Personnel Rank & Name: First Lieutenant Matryonan Bazhukov
Age: 39
Callsign: тигр (or "Tiger" in English)
Service Branch: Karshkovian Naval Air Command
Current Assignment: 199th TFS, военно-морская основа забастовки четыре (Naval Strike Base Four, Volograd)
Aircraft: Su-33
Flight experience: 3,095 Hours
Confirmed kills: 1 confirmed kill (ground)

Bio: Matryonan was born in 1969 in the city of Nizhny Tagil and graduated from secondary school in 1986. She began flying at an air club at the age of 16. She attended the High Air Force Pilot College at the city of Armavir from 1986 - 1989, graduating with the rank of Lieutenant to the Air Force Regiment. She served as a pilot with the Russian Air Force from 1990 until retiring from the service in 1999. She then spent three years attending the Test Pilot School in Zhukovsky and was admitted to pilot 15 types of aircraft, including all MiGs. Since 2003, she's been a training pilot at the Karshkovian Air Combat College. Matyonan is married to Captain Pavlov. Her hobbies are flying small aircraft, parachuting, and playing tennis.

I'm in! I loved that movie, plus I'm a real air-aficionado.
Havn't been in many wars, plus we're still a youthful nation. not many experienced pilots.
Pilot 1
Name: Lance Corporal Kenzi Nintoro
Callsign: Complex
Age: 24
Current Assignment: Sanghea Conflict
Flight Experience: 168 hours F-22B Raptor, 44 hours F-14 Tomcat
Confirmed Kills: 3

Pilot 2
Name: 1st Private Noiri Rellington
Callsign: Blaze
Age: 22
Current Assignment: Sanghea Conflict
Flight Experience: 47 hours F-14 Tomcat
Confirmed Kills: 0

:D! Anyway, I'll be lurking for updates.

yesh, perfectly. though, like i said, i will pair you up w/ another plane. no one flies solo. if we have odd numbers, would you mind if we split them up? of course, that is only a contingency.

I'll take him as me wingman...

And yes, 'Maverick' is the assigned callsign (they get rotated to prevent people from figuring out when a good/bad pilot is in the air by callsign alone, plus to hide their active military callsigns)

And the guys assigning it saw too much "Top Gun" and had a sick sense of humur...

lol hurtful ^_^

Mu, you'll get a Mig-21bis, as the other pilots will recieve F-20A Tigersharks (I assume they're compatible). Each week, you'll graduate to better planes. Eventually you will recieve advanced fighters.

Welcome rofl and Karsh. @ 1200 US Central, the sign-up is over. Sunday will consist of Meet-and-greet/ceremonies @ Nieflheim. Classes start on Monday w/ me.

Also...the tests will consist of two questions from each section covered the previous week, and will be posted after the last lecture is posted on Friday. The tests will be 10 questions; 5 multiple choice amd 5 short-answer. Cal and Pres, i'll need the questions for your sections TGed to me by thurs. at the latest. thanks you two.

Updated my initial signup post to include a second pilot.

Ok, the sign-up is CLOSED. Today and tomorrow I will be tallying up the participants and tying up the loose ends. classes start Monday. For logistical purposes, each week will be posted separately. Look for me posting Sunday night, probably...

Computer decided to die after I went and cleared some essential files...
(Not that it ever worked as intended for the past few years)

So I may or may not be able to post again by monday.

that's ok, hurtful. we'll save you a seat...and someone will share their notes.

OOC: Cheers to FUS for finding a free spot for me

Pilot
Name: Captain Adrian Winters
Callsign: Wildcard
Age: 26
Current Assignment:Operation: Crossbow (Sanghea Conflict), Sorceror Squadron
Flight Experience: 500+ Hours F-15S/MTD & F-16XL, & 10 Hours SR-71 Blackbird
Confirmed Kills: 15

sorry. maybe if this goes well, i'll have a second semester. it certainly would be nice if i could train up ppls air forces. i simply can't make exceptions.

to all of those who did sign up, please go here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13384455#post13384455

also, CST (US Central time) is 7 hrs behind GMT, which is what's used on the forums. i hope y'all can compensate for this, as i love this thread, but will not kill myself posting.

sorry. maybe if this goes well, i'll have a second semester. it certainly would be nice if i could train up ppls air forces. i simply can't make exceptions.

to all of those who did sign up, please go here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13384455#post13384455

also, CST (US Central time) is 7 hrs behind GMT, which is what's used on the forums. i hope y'all can compensate for this, as i love this thread, but will not kill myself posting.

Sounds good. Unfortunately i'm currently on a high alert status so my pilots are kinda getting all the training they're gonna get at the moment!

Would you like us to RP arriving in our aircraft, or should we assume that we're already there?

OOC: Cheers to FUS for finding a free spot for me

Pilot
Name: Captain Adrian Winters
Callsign: Wildcard
Age: 26
Current Assignment: Sanghea Conflict, Sorceror Squadron
Flight Experience: 500+ Hours F-15S/MTD & F-16XL
Confirmed Kills: 15

until i RP the ceremony, you can certainly do so. though if you psot after it, assume you were there and RP as if it is the post-ceremony party/whatver.

Most likely they'd arrive in bulk via some outdated airliner, unless you like leaving a bleeding edge fighter unattended in a forign military base.

So...

Who wants to split a ride on an MV-22?
(A C-130 seems to be a waste for such a smal number <60)

Edit: Computer blowing again at full steam *shovels in a bit more coal*

OOC: My apologies FUS, I assumed that my crew would be cleared for some more radical maneuvers given their position more as "guest" aggressors than trainees. I never came within 80 knots of the sound barrier, even in the dive, and B-1Bs routinely operate at nearly 700 knots at low altitudes when conducting terrain-following bombing runs (on full afterburners). There are videos of B-1Bs and even a couple B-52s "bouncing" over a mountain on final approach to their target during training. If you're up high in a large aircraft like the B-1B and an SA-21 paints you from 100 miles away, unless you have SEAD very close-by your best bet it to get very low, very fast, and pray that there's not more AA waiting on the ground to turn on and knock you out.

A typical B-1B training mission includes a pair of aircraft during anything from a 3 to 5 hour mission, although admittedly nearly an hour is spent practicing aerial refueling, and then much of the rest of the time goes to practicing maneuvers and various procedures. An hour or more is typically set aside for time on the bombing range, and the pair will coordinate in order to overwhelm various defenses that can be simulated at will by the range controllers.

I mistakenly assumed that I was operating over unpopulated areas, and that I'd have clearance to familiarize myself with the terrain. If you wish, I will edit my post. :)

Wow i didn't even see the new thread, i wasn't really looking for it, i usually keep to my subscription page when I'm in enough Rps, again my bad

edit: im just going to assume my pilots flew in in their F/A-18E