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I'm posting to see if there's any interest in a Top Gun-style RP. It will be hosted within my country (the Commonwealth of Free United States) and will be structured around the curriculum of the real Top Gun. As an FYI, fans of the movie will be sorely disappointed. That movie does not accurately portray combat fighter pilots, which is what I hope this RP will.

The faculty will be Rped by myself and anyone who wants to send instructors. I ask that all instructors be true aces and veterans to be applicable. Mainly, we need attendees; this is for any nation who wants to train up its fighter pilots, AF/Navy/Marines are welcome to attend. Mercenaries/anarchists et al. will not be accepted.

If there is interest, I will post a sign-up thread and post more information from there. I am open to all suggestions and am ready to answer any and all questions.

This sounds like it could be a really good idea. How many pilots are we allowed to send. ICly could we work out some sort of pilot exchange program?

Also, would be using aircraft designated by Free United States for the purpose, or would we be bringing our own planes?

I'm posting to see if there's any interest in a Top Gun-style RP. It will be hosted within my country (the Commonwealth of Free United States) and will be structured around the curriculum of the real Top Gun. As an FYI, fans of the movie will be sorely disappointed. That movie does not accurately portray combat fighter pilots, which is what I hope this RP will.

The faculty will be Rped by myself and anyone who wants to send instructors. I ask that all instructors be true aces and veterans to be applicable. Mainly, we need attendees; this is for any nation who wants to train up its fighter pilots, AF/Navy/Marines are welcome to attend. Mercenaries/anarchists et al. will not be accepted.

If there is interest, I will post a sign-up thread and post more information from there. I am open to all suggestions and am ready to answer any and all questions.


I will send John Arnold, who was an ace in the Khilistanian Civil War, and various other wars, including the Lerasian Detainment Conflict, and the Conflict with Firehelper. He has a total of 37 kills, so I think he qualifies.

This is in OOC of course.

OoC:I am interested in joining this (I do not know much about fighters though, I hope that won't be a problem).
Hopefully this will allow me to get a foot into the roleplaying that goes on on this forum (I'd love some suggestions on how to get started)

OOC: Okay, say, my guy flew F-15K's for a long while, and then before that flew F-4F's, and he also flew F-16Bs, if those fit in your plans, that's what he is type rated in..

Accepted Cal. just remind me in the actual sign-up (lol). and this is all ooc, btw.

i am accepting two pilots each, 'cause i think a squadron would be too hard to manage, and two gives a flight lead and a wingman.

Training planes will be worked on. this is all MT. i'm thinking F-15DJ trainer variants (pilot and instructor pilot) and moving on to F-15F Strike Eagles (a proposed single-seat variant). Also, FA-18E/F for naval/marine pilots or Rafale-Ms. Maybe the EF-2000 Eurofighter.

As for 'aggressor' planes, Mig-21s, Mig-29s, Su27-37s based on 'level,' (ie. how long they've been training).

The idea of bringing your own planes...would give me a way to gauge one's country's assets and needs. give me a feel for your forces, and i can work on it.

Interesting that I was thinking when I signed on about how bizzarely air combat is portrayed on NS sometimes, high performance fighters shooting at each other with their cannons for example, just about never happens in real life. Hopefully with some veteran instructors and a good few participants, my love of fighter combat will be rekindled.

My carrier pilots used to use F-18E's and the replacement F-36 Gladius fighters I now operate are fairly similar. I'd be sending a rookie pilot, fresh out of flight school, who I could hopefully develop to include in future roleplays. I'd be happy to send along an F-36 but I figure it would probably be easier in the long run to have everyone using F-15's or F-18's and so eliminate the technical one-upmanship that is bound to occur.

OOC: Could I send a Cazelian as well as a Kal'Har pilot? The Cazelian flies F/A-11Bs (My customized F-14) and the Kal'Har flies an F-5 Tiger

I might be interested, but I'd want to see a decent RP quality. Not to nitpick but I've developed a high standard for RPs I'm involved in.

I'm up for this RP. My air force uses the F-15I Ra'am (F-15E with Israeli avionics).

I'll sign up once you have the thread up. I also rp as a bigger nation as well, but I like rp'ing as a smaller one (it's more fun in my opinion) and I'm not to proud of my first "nation". So don't be fooled by the one post thing. If we are bring our own aircraft then my character (who will be a trainee) will be using a MiG-29S-13. If not, then any other aircraft you think is best is good enough for me.

OOC: Actually if my guy comes, he'll be bringing a F-9 Barracuda, the first really practical Calizorinstani fighter, which looks like a mix of a F-9 and a F-23, with the specs of a F-16 or a AIDC Chung Kao.

idk what I'll bring, perhaps my new fighter if I can ever be arsed to finish it.

Hey this is great, in my nation my air force has been neglected and 'i' need to try pilots, plus i want to see how people RP a proper air force

i will send a 'few' pilots and RP as one

edit: i will send two pilots, i would like to fly FA-18E/F as that is like my air force/navy/army primary plane

(( I'm interested in this RP, though my nation uses Su-33's for their navy if I were to bring my own aircraft. Would this be a problem?))

ok guys, reading through the posts...

ppl will arrive in their own craft, but for the purposes of a uniform training regimen, i will assign planes. once we're towards the end of training, pilots will be returned to their aircraft and supplement their training to meet the needs and specs of their fighters. i'll post the sign-up thread soon and it will close in...three days from it opening(?).

just fyi, most of what i know from the air force i have from friends and Ace Combat. i'll do my best to research the real Top Gun and portray the military as professionally and accurately as possible.

and i'll leave you w/ some of the ppl you'll meet from my country/school.
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Tentative CFUS Personnel

Advanced Fighter Weapons School, Neiflheim ADB, CFUS

CADF (Air Defense Force) Personnel
Brig. General Nikolai Goborev, CO
Colonel Marko 'Meteor Kamarov, Base Adjunct
Lt. Colonel Dmitri 'Blue Crow' Polenin, 5th Air Wing, 15th Tactical Fighter Squadron (lead flight instructor)
Major James 'Mad-hatter' Madzen, 5th Air Wing, 15th Tactical Fighter Squadron, XO

CMDF/CMMC (Maritime Defense Force/Maritime Marine Corps) Personnel:
Commander Marta 'Gidget' Ross, CAW-7, VF-41 'Black Aces'
Captain Alex 'Magellan' Frost, 5th MEU, 23rd Air Cavalry Squadron

ok, just letting y'all know how i organize/name ppl and stuff. the sign-up will be up...tomorrow. i'll do it in class ^_<

The sign-up thread is up. This thread will become our OOC planning center for curriculum, et al.

here's the sign-up link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13375796#post13375796

I've been lurking for a while now, and I have a question: As a general rule, all of my country's fighters are two seaters. May I send two pilot/navigator teams as students?

I'm wondering if I'd be allowed to deploy a B-1B aircrew for this exercise. They could operate as part of the aggressor squadron and give trainees valuable experience in hunting down a low-level, high-speed strategic bomber, while acquainting themselves with the capabilities of aircraft not in Terra's inventory.

I think being a FT nation might be a problem in this thread although.

The Neo Kirisuban federation does keep fast agile shuttles which when armed with phaser cannons count as fighters.

Would I be able to take part?

Neo, if you can adapt to an MT environment, i'd allow you to send personnel, otherwise, i would have to say no as it is not fair to the countries that only have MT. my country has early FT (Macross/Gundam) but i would like all persons to follow the same training regimen.

Ancient and Holy; that is an interesting concept. givem e some ideas and i'll look it over. really, this idea intrigues me.

imota, that is acceptable. the navy/marine element uses FA-18E/F hornets. the F variant is a two seater. as long as your pilots like taking directions from 'squids,' they're fine. also, send four men if you please, allowing for a lead and a wingman.

all right. now just sign up @ the thread and you'll be on your way.

I can send a pilot (or two) provided they can be provided with a suitable MT aircraft. If they can fly a FT agile shuttlecraft a modern jet fighter shouldn't cause them any problems.

Terra was formerly an island nation, and because of the limited space available has traditionally placed a much larger emphasis on air- and naval-power than her ground forces. The Terran Strategic Operations Command relies on heavy bombers to make up a significant portion of their capabilities, and as a result Ancient Terra has some of the best-trained air crews in the region.

The B-1B, in particular, is a good candidate for use in the Top Gun program because it boasts the carrying capacity of more conventional heavy bombers (like the B-52) while retaining fighter-like speed and agility. Her radar and GPS systems allow her to map out terrain and threats very effectively, and with a good crew she can get very low and sneak in undetected. While not a stealth aircraft per se, the B-1B has a fairly small radar cross-section, so she's tricky to track.

The B-1B also possesses some impressive Electronic Countermeasures, which can make her hard to lock-up. I feel that the high-speed, low-level penetration capabilities, combined with her ECM, will make her tough to find and kill, and her speed and maneuverability might allow me to pull a couple of tricks that most pilots won't have seen before.

This would probably require clearance to go below the normal "hard deck" (minimum altitude) allowed during most training exercises, so a run through an uninhabited mountainous region would be recommended.

A sample mission could task the Top Gun participants with seeking out the B-1B as it transits to attack, without telling them the path of the aircraft, merely the general direction it is coming from. From the moment the order to scramble is given, the pilots would have perhaps an hour to seek out the B-1B before it can drop a load of dummy bombs on its target (preferably a prefabricated shelter or a line of obsolete military vehicles). This would encourage participants to cooperate in order to locate the elusive bomber and to overcome the ECM jamming, and give them experience in defending a target. To increase the difficulty aggressor aircraft could accompany the bomber or close on the target from other directions, giving practice in intercepting and identifying targets, as well as adding an element of air combat maneuvering to the otherwise mundane task of shooting down a bomber (once locked-on, anyways).

Other exercises could include seeking out and destroying long-range cruise missiles (launched from the B-1B) inbound on a target, and cooperating with AWACS aircraft to coordinate an intercept. I of course wouldn't expect to participate in most combat scenarios, as the primary purpose of the Top Gun school is to further skills in Air Combat Maneuvering, but the chance to gain experience in attacking bombers is something that many nations lack, and could be an interesting diversion from the tedium of dogfight after dogfight.

My nation is prepared to provide full support for these exercises, including a variety of dummy ordinance, jet fuel and even aerial refueling tankers and AWACS if your forces are somewhat strapped for cash. :)

ancient and holy, that mission is a very good idea. plz sign-up. also, the training facility is complete w/ a large area for weapons training purposes. (think of the real Top Gun an the ordinance ranges near it). support craft and even aircraft will be provided by the CADF. (we also use B1B bombers, along w/ Tu-160s, Tu-90s and B-52s).

Thank you, I'll be glad to participate. As the B-2B is a 4-man aircraft I intend to bring a full flight crew, although I'll only actively RP the Captain and Copilot to keep things simple. :)