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gonna attempt to use this thread to gather nations who use magic to power their toys. swordsmen, dragons, elves and other staples of the fantasy flavor.

come and post here to indicate that you are part of this multi-racial alliance. describe your country, tell us your main races and describe their uniqueness if they aren't the typical dwarf or elf as you find in many places.

use a mix of ooc and ic to describe yourself by referring to concepts found in other rpg books, you use magic like d&d or magic like warhammer or magic like harnmaster or whatever. be part of an alliance of like-minded people who desire to fight against evil criminals who disrespect governments like orcish hordes or rampaging dragons or even mad wizards.

if ever anyone wishes to start a fantasy thread then they can come in here to see first hand the ones who are interested in this genre. we shall call this alliance "Wizards Are Rulers" to distinguish from others who are non-fantasy. come in and whiz up an enchantment for all of us members.

Erm, I'll pass. Magic is an illegal entity in my nation.

You might have more luck in the NationStates forum. I hear they like all that stuff.

Speak for yourselves, folks. It was an honest offer, and there ARE folks around here who like to RP fantasy characters, even if it is among other things.

I don't really have a Fantasy Nation. I write for situations and using characters. The two are separate. Thus, you'll find posts from Marionetonia that have as characters a cyborg who's so completely cybernated that he's almost a brain in a jar, a turned demon, and an awakened (for lack of a better term) variant of the Borg Collective.

The turned demon is part of a pantheon of characters that I use in a fantasy setting. I alter him depending on the situation that I have to put him in. In his pure form, he's a powerful illusionist who, otherwise, can barely cast a fireball. He was inspired by the D&D style of fantasy, but I've RP'ed him in one Harry Potter sim. (Unfortunately, the threadmaster has since changed his threads to allow only characters who are humans. I find this to be racist and stuffy.) His name is Marvel. His species is the Red Gargoyle Demon. They're your typical devil--he, for example, stands six foot three, has small horns on his forehead and has a spaded tail and batlike wings. They differ from your standard demon in that the tail has a stinger on it that can inject a victim with a hypnotic narcotic venom. No one has yet RP'ed a character who wants to trap him and turn him into a living drug factory, but the possibility may yet present itself. The other difference is that, normally, the species reproduces by laying eggs inside the body of a host. Marvel has been altered. He can reproduce like a normal mammal. One of the things that I normally do is not have any FEMALES altered like he is, leaving him a species of one.

Marvel has had several different jobs during his lifetime. He started out as a librarian. This was when he was a human named Geoffrey Cole. Cole was impregnated, and Marvel acquired some of his knowledge and memories. He also acquired the man's love of his son and daughter, though, for obvious reasons, he doesn't let them see him very often. (I actually haven't ever had the opportunity to RP this aspect of him.) Then, after pupating, he left the human's body and moved on to the underworld. Red Gargoyles are a created species. They were bred to be intelligent infantry. The problem is that some of them are too intelligent for it. Marvel started in the Underworld Infantry, but was removed from it after he secretly captured one of the members of an opposing demon lord's army and, with a female of his species, tried to use it to start a family. Eventually, he was caught and, since he didn't have a breeding license, disciplined. He was also moved up in the ranks for having what it took to get away with it for so long. He became a Diplomat from Hell. :) :) :) That's right--sometimes a demon lord needs someone to feed misinformation to an enemy, to feign negotiations while engaging in subterfuge or just plain raising a good ol' fashioned horde to bludgeon the scumbag's skull in. And this is why Marvel's demon lord, a character by the name of SmashMouth, first developed the innovation of a Diplomatic Corps. While at this job, Marvel acquired certain negotiating and also magical skills. This is where he learned his illusion magic.

He left the underworld when SmashMouth decided that he knew too much and tired to execute him. He had a back-up plan. He was to be fed to an all-devouring demon by the name of Slaboflab--but he had secretly put a magic portal right in Slaboflab's gullet. As he was being sucked down, he opened the portal and...ended up in wherever-the-heck-the-RP-is-taking-place. (Love those names, BTW. SmashMouth, Slaboflab! Those are KEWL, if I do say so myself!)

I also sometimes use a character named Telsa, a female Red Gargoyle, and an electrical mage (couldn't resist considering the name), as a love interest.

When I have to contend with other characters who are much more powerful, I educate Marvel and make him a fairly powerful Battle Mage--though he never stops using basic-level spells.

He has two back stories after leaving the Underworld.

First, he took up living with a temple prostitute in whatever equivalent the RP has of the city of Gomorra. Though he became close with the human, he used his tail stinger to give her enjoyable interludes. At the time, he was unaware of the digestive enzymes in the venom. He learned the hard way. Then, he found that another demon controlled the temple, and had used him to deal with a temple prostitute who was to independent. He trashed the temple, exposing and killing the demon, and the city did not survive the turmoil that followed.

Second, he took to living as a farm hand for about ten years in the land of Yendor. It was during this time that he learned to pass as a human. One day, as he was plowing the fields, he noticed that things were too quiet. A troop of (other) Red Gargoyle Demons were attacking the town and trying to (and often succeeding to impregnate the townspeople. Together with the farmer and a few other friends, he moved the townspeople into the castle at Yendor Keep. Once there, he found out that the local ruler, a man by the name of Duke Rodney ("Rodney" is "Yendor" spelled backwards) was in league with the demons. It was during this time that he was completely turned and ceased to be a Creature of Darkness--though the process took many years. With the Court Sorcerer and a few other friends, he thwarted the Duke's evil plans. The few remaining demons carried him off and did who knows what (I'll leave it to your imagination) with him. And, from this, the underworld learned that he walked the place-where-the-RP-is-going-on. They have a policy against unlicensed realmwalkers, so...they sent a little Sanitation Detail--only about 10,000 troops. Its purpose was to turn Yendor, and especially Yendor Keep, which was built into an extinct volcano (Mount Yendor), into a little red smudge on the map.

So, with the help of the Court Sorcerer and a few others (as in just about everyone left in the castle), Marvel faked the eruption of Mount Yendor. And it worked--convinced that the town had met its demise, the Sanitation Detail returned to the underworld. This left the townsfolk healthy, happy and alive. Oh, and the Court Sorcerer, a corrupt, greedy man, ended up in the Duke's seat. When he tried to capture Marvel and turn him into a medical sample, Marvel spread his wings, took off and never looked back.

He's turned to good, but he's still a demon. He's high-strung (avian metabolism), short-of-attention and temperamental, and oh boy does he like to party. He can almost swim in a vat of alcohol (and would relish the opportunity to do so). He's also VERY, EXTREMELY loyal to his friends and known to do some pretty shifty stuff when the need arises. He makes his living as a bard or a trader, field hand or minor mage, sometimes swapping stories, songs and magic spells with the locals over a pint or two (or twenty) of stout drink. In one thread, another writer started it out with a SHOOTING contest (a battle, actually), so I had Marvel in a tavern and had HIS part of the RP start out with a BURPING contest. It was fun. And that's the point. Marvel is fun to be around. He's the life of the party, and he's one of the good guys. And, in a world of invincible sorcerers and rangers, he gets drunk and has hangovers. :) :) :)

And that's my main fantasy character.

I like this idea. Stop hating.

As a fantasy writer, I have many different characters. My favorite is Nasis Halfborn. Nasis, by the way, means the equivalent of "night" or "darkness" in ancient Sumerian.

Nasis's story is complicated. It begins with a war between the gods and the Nifilhim--also known as the Blackspawn. (I take a lot from the bible--great inspiration, even if its merit is only literary) There's a backstory to this, too, but basically the war went in favor of the blackspawn. They were led by a human king--once a noble Wanderer, now a twisted, perverse demi-god--named Luherim. No one could stop Luherim and his army, until Nasis stepped up and made a deal with the gods. He would destroy the King Luherim in return for unending life. So each time he died, he would be reborn, an agent of the gods.

There was battle. Nasis won. Luherim was killed, his spirit sent out into the Outer Dark andguarded by the giant Vogthde. The Gods bested the Blackspawn and locked them in a burning prison deep in the core of a faraway planet.

Fast-forward a whole Cycle of time. That's about nine hundred lifetimes. Luherim found his way past Vogthde and returned to Gaia, trhis time with an army gathered from all corners of the Existance. His goal: release the Blackspawn. The gods once again call on Nasis for help.
This life, however, Nasis is in love with a woman-mage named Saelethia. She betrayed him, cheating on him with her past lover. This was hard on him because she was the only person he ever trusted.
His life slowly taken over by anger and hatred, Nasis finds dark powers inside him, gifts from the gods. He's volatile and without concience, completey out of the gods' control.

Nasis trained as a Shade, an elite warrior. He works shadow-magic in addition to his godly combat skills. He has no heart and feels nothing for anybody. Living constantly on the boundary between good and evil, he serves only his own need for vengeance--not vengeance against anyone, just vengeance to feed his hatred of everything. He's an outstanding liar and can fake compassion well enough to break more than a few hearts.

Other characters Include Luherim, Saelethia, and Aetheria.

Excellent idea in my opinion. There's way too many strictly MT nations and the FT nations have a tendency to mock anything that isn't full of lasers and tachyons.

Of the 9 nations in my region, 5 of them would be considered fantasy. Wiccans, werewolves, vampires, devolved elves, etc. Sorcery and infernal beings along with rebellious angels are part and parcel of these nations. 'Normal' humanity is the exception in this region, not the rule.

Let's get some kind of thread going..............

How could you hold this party and not expect the muri to crash? Factbook! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537021)
You'll have to forgive some references to FT, but that's been the only arena in which we've been allowed. Ignore everything that's not fantasy.
Edit: Upon reading, there's just a few references to spacefaring in one post that indicate we ply the seas of space-so ignore nothing

Well my nation is not "fantasy" but I could try out some roleplay thingie. I just try to promote my nation's religion which is a martial art to strategic exploration to get to paradise. Wondering how elves or other non-human races would develop their war style. Imagine a nation of mer-folk (underwater breathing dudes) with some kind of water-based martial art.

I suppose if I decide to add more "mystical" element to a martial art, I can make my nation quite "fantasy" they would gear themselves with large scale battle magics.... like transforming an army into a forest by day so that they can march at night and they grab the nutrients from the ground that they are planted on so they don't have to carry food or water when they go raiding. Something my nation would have in its "fantasy" version. I suppose I could describe more at a later date.

Never lived in farm country, eh?

Pardon me for stepping in like this, but the idea that an army can march through a field and collect enough nutrients from the soil to keep from going hungry is slightly at odds with the laws of nature.

Mind you, I think that your idea is original and innovative--it's just not very feasible. Please do not confuse this attempt at constructive critique with berating an imaginative writer.

Basically, there's not enough energy in the soil and the sun to give your soldiers the kind of boost they'd need. Plants can appear to hold a lot of energy, but it takes them MONTHS to build it up, and they don't move. Herbivores are constantly eating--and they feed off the plants that have already concentrated the available energy. The transformation might REDUCE their needs, but, unless they were transformed into other species (a kangeroo mouse, which never urinates, comes to mind), they'll still have to bring food and water with them.

The Eternal Undead Imperium of Deatharon is already very fantasy oriented considering they are all undead creatures that seek to feast on the flesh of the living. The Necromancy of the Liches and Necromancers of Deatharon would probably be almost legendary at this point. I mean the Imperium has access to characters and organizations like this:


Mavis Delasano an epic level Lich that has been chosen by the Dark Goddess herself to spread death and destruction throughout the world. Mavis is one of the Chosen and as such has access to a lot of her power but as a drawback it causes a massive energy drain and can even destroy Mavis’s physical form if he is already in a weaken state when summoning the Goddess’s power…


Lichen Emperor Antonio Von Antheron I the reigning monarch of the Eternal Undead Imperium of Deatharon, His powers are epic level easy and he is constantly guarded by several elite soldiers called the Imperial Black Cloaks. The Imperial Black Cloaks are an organization made up of high level Liches, Vampires, Ghouls, and Necromancers that protect the Emperor from his many enemies.

Ragthkoul: A Powerful Undead Dragon that has managed to blend necromancy with his own dragon biology to become an unstoppable undead monster. He is by far one of the most fearsome creatures residing in the Imperium….


Alysria Val’Cora: The Vampire Duchess of Black Gate the Second largest city in the Imperium she is a powerful warrior/necromancer and has access to several legions of undead warriors…


The Shadow Blade Assassins Guild: The near mythical assassins guild that employs the undead to assassinate their enemies for their clients making them a deadly enemy to cross…

This nation is fairly fantasy Magic is prevelent but in an unusual form.

My mice are basically magic-infused mice however they don't cast spells or traditional magic.

They basically construct magic items and that's all they do.

Specialising in illusion and transformation (playing soccer against humans is hard to do as mouse-sized mice).

My own nation is based upon a federation model. Each race has its king and they run their internal domestic issues independently of each other and there is a federal government that deals with a centralized army combining the different racial capabilities and they deal with foreign affairs. So each elf tribe would have its king or ruler, wood elf vs sea elf etc... Each dwarf, halfling, gnome, human and other races would have their own regional king that deals with local issues but then there is an over-arching federal agency which promotes unity and trade within its borders and speaks with one voice in international affairs.

We have underwater races and cloud-living races as well as your typical standard d20 system races. Very multicultural, although we may not have undead or demonic races as others have mentioned. It would be interesting to note the economy of such a nation? Do they produce anything? I suppose they may hold interesting livestock (thinking of Rifts' Vampires).

I'm not joining any alliances, but I can humor you by giving some information on the Ashen Empire of Ermor, which I've resurrected by using this nation. I gave away the actual nation Ermor which is why I'm using this one right now.

Well, basically, it's an ancient empire which fell to Death a long time ago as a direct consequence of the unchecked desire for power of the nation's mages, and it has been a domain of undeath ever since. It is "run" by the Lich Queen. She's, in a way, a representative of the Lord of the Underworld in the NS realm - which would be because she is at her position because the Lord willed it. The Ashen Empire's view on nations like Icecrown Glaciar and Deatharon is that, well, they are childish mockeries of the Empire and of the will of the Lord. It is the Empire's duty to either force them to align themselves to their true gods - the Lord of the Underworld, who wills their existence, and the Lich Queen, who will rule the realm of the living once the Ashen Empire's work is done... Or to destroy them like the dogs they are should they refuse.

Undeath is not to be taken lightly - especially not by those who are such. It is not just a cheap way of gaining immortality!

What else? Ermor has been in Future Tech since early 2004. Does not use regular power sources for its ships nor power armor but rather those of its own. Those things would tap into the unholy energies of the undead and use that for power, which is another way of saying "no one else can use them, neener neener". The magic base I use is that of the game series Dominions, although I often do not restrict myself to it and create things of my own somewhat in its spirit. I have a bunch of characters which I use which includes the Lich Queen, but I won't name them here.

Things like that.

I wade into Fantasy sometimes, since I love creating it so much.

Shame there isn't much of an active community on II. Whenever a (closed world) rp does start it always soon dies due to inactivity, and open ones (I think) never seem to get the random replies that MT and FT does.

I prefer National rps, though. More creativity that way, methinks. I tend to create ones on the spot, no consistent one that I often use really. I've played Racist Draconian, Demon Worshipping, and Semi-Demon Nations in my time.

Yep. Not really a fellow for the whole 'Holy Divine Human Kingdom of Freedonia' type of idea. Baddies all the way.

I'm not interested in joining in, and I keep a minimum of believability preferring low fantasy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_fantasy) elements, specially of the Dark Fantasy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_fantasy) subtype over High Fantasy.

Does Steampunk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk)(More known as "Alternate Tech" in NationStates) with some Dark Fantasy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_fantasy) elements based in Slavic mythology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_mythology) count? For now it's relegated to background though as I'm still developing further concepts for my main Early PMT nation, its Near FT version and for another MT+1 nation I have. Though I already elaborated a very simple basis, as the simplest premise for Soviet Steam is:

"What if the Russian Revolution happened 45 years earlier, in an alternate Earth where steam powered technology has advanced much more, Nikola Tesla became a famous weapons engineer, myths became reality and usually magic-based traditional governments, like monarchy and theocracy, clash with usually technology-based revolutionary governments, like republic and socialism?"

Still most technology will be based in real late 1800s tech, with a few prototypical expensive automatons (http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~jaeger/visualMedia/images/electricMan.jpg) and airships (http://www.daydalus.net/img/09-06-2007/airship.jpg) used sparingly due to extreme maintenance costs and which main military function is power projection...

About mythical beings, there will be Baba Yagas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Yaga), the three prophetic birds, among them the Gamayun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamayun), the Firebird (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebird_%28Russian_folklore%29) and others.

Not to break up everyone's creative flow, but i think we have enough nations here to start a fantasy RP. I don't want to be a part of any alliance, but like Weccanfield said, most (closed world) RPs tend to fall kinda flat. If everyone here participated, we could have a pretty good one. Just an idea.

I'm not joining any alliances, but I can humor you by giving some information on the Ashen Empire of Ermor, which I've resurrected by using this nation. I gave away the actual nation Ermor which is why I'm using this one right now.

Well, basically, it's an ancient empire which fell to Death a long time ago as a direct consequence of the unchecked desire for power of the nation's mages, and it has been a domain of undeath ever since. It is "run" by the Lich Queen. She's, in a way, a representative of the Lord of the Underworld in the NS realm - which would be because she is at her position because the Lord willed it. The Ashen Empire's view on nations like Icecrown Glaciar and Deatharon is that, well, they are childish mockeries of the Empire and of the will of the Lord. It is the Empire's duty to either force them to align themselves to their true gods - the Lord of the Underworld, who wills their existence, and the Lich Queen, who will rule the realm of the living once the Ashen Empire's work is done... Or to destroy them like the dogs they are should they refuse.

Undeath is not to be taken lightly - especially not by those who are such. It is not just a cheap way of gaining immortality!

What else? Ermor has been in Future Tech since early 2004. Does not use regular power sources for its ships nor power armor but rather those of its own. Those things would tap into the unholy energies of the undead and use that for power, which is another way of saying "no one else can use them, neener neener". The magic base I use is that of the game series Dominions, although I often do not restrict myself to it and create things of my own somewhat in its spirit. I have a bunch of characters which I use which includes the Lich Queen, but I won't name them here.

Things like that.

It would be interesting to see how you would RP with a character of mine called The Metal Man. He was a man, but was abducted by aliens and heavily cybernated. One of the aspects of his character is that he dampens all forms of magic. Prophesies do not apply to him; the most powerful spells cast on him are mostly ineffective; he can't teleport--he has to go the long way.

Ironically, I originally designed him as a vampire hunter. The concept--which no other author I know of is working on--is a good guy of High Science doing battle with bad guys of High Magic. Mind you, he does not hunt ALL vampires--in fact, he is an ally of The Theodore, who leads The Children of the Sun (vampires trying to end their curse).

Right now, I'm using him AND Marvel together in the "Fantasy World Redux" (or whatever) thread.

Anybody consider joining that rather than starting up another thread?

Oh, BTW, Dastardly Stench and Marionetonia are both owned by the same person.

Also BTW, there are existing fantasy threads that people may wish to join. There's a Fantasy World Sign-Up thread, which has at least two associated threads that I know of, "The Fall of Morthas" and "To Travel Lands Untraveled." There's also "Fantasy World II--the Remix." I don't know about the Fall and Travel threads--you'll have to check those out with Naasha--but I have a funny feeling that Kormanthor wouldn't mind some help in FWII.

Hello Marionetonia, you are correct that I wouldn't mind some help in Fantasy World 2. Here is a description of my countries beginnings and where my countries people originated from. This is a small part taken from Kormanthors Fact Page. After reading this you will realize that at least the original people of Kormanthor came from a Dungeons & Dragons planet called Toril which can be found in the Forgotten Realms. Others have joined our group since then because of our travel among the Stars, but our roots remain in Fantasy.


Kormanthor’s History

Early History

The Star Empire Of Kormanthor is a mixture of many races that came here from a world called Koril and beyond. Among the original immigrates were two nations of humans; Korilians & Raelians, two sub races of Elves; the Sun Elves & the Avariels or Winged Elves, the Gold Dwarves, & the Golden Dragon kind. The Korilians were natives of the Planet Koril ( which is located within the Taurus Dark Cloud )while the Raelians came to Koril from the Planet Velara in the Pleiades System nearly a century before the migration here started. The Sun Elves came from Kormanthyr & the Avariel from Silverymoon. The Gold Dwarves & the Gold Dragon kind from Unther which are all countries located on Koril. All arrived here by way of magical doorways called Dimensional Doors from Koril after which each race spread out to claim their own sections of our land. We found that the majority of countries on Earth were very far behind the Rael in technological areas and totally unable to cast magic of any kind. This gave us two very important edges on the rest of the new World that we were now a part of.

Pre-Modern Tech History

From the beginning we pooled our abilities for the good of all. After surveying the land and finding that our new land was a very large island continent protected by a ring of coral reef & mountainous terrain we began the task of building our cities and military. Our first defense completed was of Elven High Magic. The Sun Elves placed layers of magical wards around Kormanthor to make it invisible from those who would attack us from sea.
At the same time the Dwarves mined ores and other useful minerals that could be used for industrial applications and built the Dwarven City of Strakeln: Kormanthor’s City of the Under Dark … five miles under Essembra. It was in Strakeln that Deep Kore was founded as our underground military. The ores mined by Strakeln miners enabled the Rael to start building our tech level to include space travel by building our first spacecraft which was called the Pepsikore project because Pepsi Cola decided to invest in the space race.

Modern History

After we finished building our industrial base, we were able to start building weapons that were of superior quality and technology compared to most of our competitors. We continued to enlarge our communities to keep up with population demands while finding new places to spread out too without having to start a war with someone else. It was during this time that we discovered another new nation called Virgin Incursion. Seeing that we had a lot in common we exchanged embassies, signed treaties, and started a new region after the leaders of our old one started getting to greedy. Because of population demands of both nations we decided to build underwater communities, from this effort Aeloularea, the Pearl of Twilight and Eloukorae, Aquatic City of Kormanthor came into being.

Post Modern History

We realized we needed a cheaper way to get building supplies into orbit so we set out to design and build the now famous Space Elevator, as well as early forms of star going battleships to protect our space assets within the sol system. It was during this time that we began buying up space technology from other countries to use for space exploration while we designed our own systems. Teaming up with V.I. again we designed and built first the Asterkore Class Star Base then the first KorIncursion Class Starship.. The prototype of this class starship was the unfortunate ship that discovered the Alien Star City which was inhabited by a race of giant insectoid beings and was nearly destroyed in their successful attempt to gain advanced knowledge from the Aliens database and escape.. Between the knowledge gained from the KorIncursions mission and the knowledge gained at the starship graveyard found by the UTS Celestial Dragon which included a derelict dyson sphere we were able to make another quick advance in technology by reverse engineering all the ships found there. Being that the graveyard was also in easy reach of the Star Cities wormhole entrance we reasoned that the Dyson Sphere had once been a manmade haven for star travelers until it was destroyed by the Star Cites insect-like inhabitants. So we sealed the wormhole to the Star City with Elven High Magic so it could never be used again.

Future Tech History

From the knowledge gained in the starship graveyard we gained many new amazing pieces of equipment, the most amazing of all was the cloaking device that not only makes a ship invisible, but intangible as well. We also found a number of star charts within the wreaks of the graveyard. One of which lead us to a nasty little nebula called a Dark Nebula on the edge of the Milky Way where we discovered the wormhole to a lone solar system in the center of the void between the Milky Way Galaxy and the Andromeda Galaxy. Here we found a civilization of crystallized treelike beings living on one planet and a telekinetic race of giant snails on the another of five planets in that system. While we were there we were first captured by and escaped from the snails alien zoo by first convincing them we were too intelligent to be held as a animal in a zoo, and finally by helping them to capture a member of a race of continent sized beings that lives in the void itself which they wanted to put in there zoo. Because we were also able to find the answer to a sickness that had been plaguing the treelike beings we were shown the coordinates for another wormhole and given the technology for trapping the void creatures.. This second wormhole lead us to a region of space within the Andromeda Galaxy where we made first contact with and became allies of the Triadian Federation where we were given an entire planet to colonize … a planet called Adventura.
Meanwhile another starship, the UTS Silencer … discovered another wormhole near the center of the Milky Way that lead us to an alternate dimension, where we found Earth 5. After a failed attempt to colonize Earth 5 because of a pre warp civilization found there we decided to colonize their version of Mars where we built …“ Ivellios,“ the Cloaked City of Tomorrow, ( which is in reality a domed city sitting on a huge saucer section ) to await the day when Earth 5 is ready for first contact.
Since we are there for the long run anyway, we decided to explore the Milky Way 5 Galaxy. The first place we visited was a Planet Called Dante where we found ourselves in the middle of a full blown galactic war. Lucky for us the technology there was only post modern because while there we monitored a three member team of a group called the Wolf Dragoons hopping from planet to planet destroying enemy strongholds in the inner core of the system to defeat an evil group called the Hand Of Blake that was trying to take over the entire system for themselves.. The final battle was fought on a Planet called Terra where the Mech Warrior of the group took on and beat every mech they threw at him finally ending the war by killing the leader of the Hand Of Blake! This left a fully functional but empty City State on Terra, so after making first contact with the Wolves Dragoons we signed a treaty with the ruling houses of the Inner Sphere, we purchased all the old Hand of Blake bases there and founded the Colony Terra of the Inner Sphere insuring that the Blakes would never return because of technological superiority.
The UTS Silencer returned to Sol space to find it under attack and in danger of being over run by alien invaders. Finally after months of war the invaders were completely defeated by the allied forces defending Earth. One year later the UKS Dark Raven on maneuvers in a distant sector of the Milky Way with the UKS Vindictive & UKS Lexington received an emergency call for help. Eventually working with a group of ships that answered the call they were successful in defending the planet against another invasion attempt. Following this final invasion attempt we returned to Earth to find that a mishap with Elven High Magic had destroyed most parts of the country of VirginIncursion and transformed the survivors into monstrous aboritions. In the years since the destruction of VirginIncursion we have experienced a long period of peace in Galactic terms during which we have return to peaceful exploring, colonization and the design of new technologies such as Nanotech and a Starship capable of Time Travel. If only we could use our newest invention to save VirginIncursion from it’s undeserved fate.

Link to my Fact Page:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499883&highlight=Kormanthor

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Perhaps we should begin by opening Embassies, and see where it leads...

Not to break up everyone's creative flow, but i think we have enough nations here to start a fantasy RP. I don't want to be a part of any alliance, but like Weccanfield said, most (closed world) RPs tend to fall kinda flat. If everyone here participated, we could have a pretty good one. Just an idea.

I don't agree with your position because there are some very long running CLOSED RP's. Most " closed " world RP's only ask that folks apply for there place in the IC Thread on an OCC Thread. This is just a way to organize the RP's player characters and give them a place to talk out of character to each other.

Dastardly Stench;13333101']It would be interesting to see how you would RP with a character of mine called The Metal Man.

Well, considering that Ermor is Future Tech with an affinity towards magic... If magical effects don't work, they can double back to technology, possibly combined with magic which ends in non-magical effects. It's not like magically resistant beings are unknown to them, and their own domain has a negative effect on the use of magic (although it doesn't manifest much in them, as they cannot become fatigued and so forth).

As for vampires, the Ashen Empire views them as creatures closer to the infernal powers than the powers of the Underworld and as such things which need to be exterminated. The dead need not feed on the blood of the living.

And relating to the thread requests and whatnot, I don't think I will join any such thing. Due to things like... Ermor would be far beyond the capabilities of most fantasy nations due to them generally being of about medieval technology. Not to mention that I don't have hard time finding suitable future tech roleplays.

Perhaps we should begin by opening Embassies, and see where it leads...

I am open to exchanging embassies if any are interested, of course there would need to be ground rules written to protect both of our interest.

I am open to exchanging embassies if any are interested, of course there would need to be ground rules written to protect both of our interest.

True enough. I suppose this should go to a round-robin affair, where everyone interested tosses in their two cents' worth, and majority rules. What concept do we establish first, then? I suppose the first thing I'll agree to is the muri ritual for Summoning the Tall Man of Smoke Who Wears a Broad Hat should never be used, save as an in-joke.

I would like to suggest Arcanum's approach on Magic vs. Technology, because having a FT nation with meteor storm spellcasters and death stars would be too unbalanced, so I extracted this from Arcanum of Steamworks and Magick Obscura FAQ to explain what I mean:

Q: How do magic and technology work in Arcanum?

A: Magic and technology are opposites. Magic bends physical law to the will of the mage. Technology depends on physical law. And, in the fantasy world of Arcanum the use of technology reinforces physical law, countering the effect of magic.

The spell Stone Missile works by summoning a small rock out of thin air (physically impossible!), and then accelerating the rock to high speed along a finely controlled trajectory, merely by force of will (also physically impossible). In contrast, a gun takes advantage of several physical laws to achieve the same ends.

In Arcanum each use of magic weakens physical law, and each use of technology reinforces it. This dichotomy is directly built into the gameplay. To model this in a fun, and not overly complex manner, the state of physical law is tied to the people who change it. A practiced mage weakens the law, and that weakness of physical law becomes a part of the mage, following him wherever he goes. A studied technologist reinforces the law, and that strength of physical law becomes a part of the technologist, traveling with him.

I think using a similar approach to Arcanum's would make fantasy RPs much more interesting.

Do I count? My country is composed of Wolf People.

We're trying to set up a basis for fantasy interaction-Wolf People count as well as anyone else. My muri uses shamanism as their primary magic, with a few sorcerors and alchemists to round them out-perhaps we've some common ground with our shamans.

I'll be back to post in this, as, due to circumstances well within my control, I cannot right now.

I will say however, that I will be using a variety of races, including some I've made up myself, and two that are a variation on the standard dragon. I will be using magic in all its forms, and have technology powered by both magic and science, at the same time.

Yay, I'm telling my sis Kitsuneville.

I would like to suggest Arcanum's approach on Magic vs. Technology, because having a FT nation with meteor storm spellcasters and death stars would be too unbalanced, so I extracted this from Arcanum of Steamworks and Magick Obscura FAQ to explain what I mean:



I think using a similar approach to Arcanum's would make fantasy RPs much more interesting.

That's the point. I don't agree with Arcanum's approach at all. Anyone ever read the freely-downloadable books by Rick Cook? The ones where a computer programmer is teleported to a magical universe to help them bring the wildness of their magic under control?

The point of these books--and I go along with it entirely--is that magic is just another aspect of physics. The "rules" of magic are not THE SAME AS the "rules" of physics, but they can be viewed to operate similarly. One can even come up with "basic magical operations" and make larger spells by combining them. In this, spellcasting is very similar to computer programming. (Can you tell that I have a college degree in Computer Science?) :) :) :)

The Metal Man operates in a world of where magic is a part. Something in his physical make-up (there's actually a back story, but I won't bore you with it) prevents it from working as well around him.

Mind you, I'd like the opportunity to have the Metal Man work with the Good Guys of Ermor sometime. I think that they just might be good for each other--each helping to expand the other's horizons.

My Incomplete factbook can be located here http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12750625#post12750625 the main thing that makes Kath Jal different from other insect nations is the lack of a hive mind.

I would love to set up some sort of embasays or a UN of Fantasy nations, I also agree comlpetely with Weccanfield.

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I don't agree with your position because there are some very long running CLOSED RP's. Most " closed " world RP's only ask that folks apply for there place in the IC Thread on an OCC Thread. This is just a way to organize the RP's player characters and give them a place to talk out of character to each other.

You made me reconsider. That is true--you're right. But I still think that the people on this thread could start a really good fantasy RP, if we were so inclined.

I think the embasy idea is a good one.

you could try a rolemaster approach to magic which potentially includes alchemy, elementalism, psionics and soft tech magic as optionals. of course technology can also exist in this setting but its only found in old archaeological sites from a civilization over 200 000 years old which attempted to open up dimensional portals and poof, magic was introduced and society went poof for 100 000 years. now they are coming back.

not that my country is based upon that society, but it does include many magic styles as well as possible technology too.

i like the idea of an embassy. we could have it in a multidimensional tavern where every room in this inn is a nation's embassy which also has direct portal to its home. ambassadors meet in the common tavern room? sound cool? call the inn "Welcome All Residents".

With permission from my associate of the same region, I advertise my thread to sell through retail or purchase in bulk from manufacturers fantasy equipment. Thread is thus (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545963) May you have "Weapons Always Ready".

I am not strictly a fantasy nation but we can assume that I have portal access to fantasy dimensions. I do not sell non-fantasy items to fantasy-only nations.

I prefer the Runequest system-it's simple, flexible, and adaptable to both fantasy and high-tech. Rolemaster is a fun game, with a magic system second only to Power&Perils, but both systems have the flaws of waay too much paperwork.

My magic method is my own creation.

I've learned after several years of research and study, that all magic is, is highly advanced science, or rather, the control and manipulation of the universe itself on the Quantum Level.

Of course Stone rain looks like magic, stones don't normally appear out of thin air, but then niether do people teleport, and yet through the power of Quantum Entanglement, people can. Wiki it if you don't know what it is.

Of course we can't control it yet, we don't have the technology. "But Shadow" someone is probably saying, how does that explain legends like Merlin?

Simple, Evolution.

See, as is obvious in some insectoids, Evolution does happen, and can occur. Certainly its usually to adapt one to one's enironment. I have no doubts that if the world slowly got more aquatic, the insects would be the first to develop a method of underwater breathing.

Now, there are accounts of people experiencing life after death, when people have died and come back. I don't know quite where they are on the internet, but I do remember reading about them. So, that leads me to believe we exist in more than just three dimensions. Dimensions we cannot currently understand while we are alive. folks with supernatural/paranormal abilities, are the first steps in an evolutionary change in these other dimensions, a change that reflects in the three we can comprehend, and with these changes, comes better control of our environment, going beyond the simple sciences we have today, after all, we only understand about 1% of our universe in total.

And that, is magics greatest secret. Magic in and of itself, is a trick, an illusion, it just, doesn't, exist.

So, there you have it, my method of magic is nothing more than the control of the universe itself on a rather small scale. The more evolved you are, the more you can control. No paperwork, no math, the only limitation, is your own imagination. As one can see, I think too much.

Very like Eddings' "Will and the Word" system, and probably as well suited to this forum as any.

Ordo I agree that we could start a new thread easily with the people we have here. But only if the people here has the interest and motivation to start one and then continue to support it.

After Dark Ressurection, I'm up for anything, on pretty much any sort of a scale. Simple Embassy exchanges are great, for offical contact, but for something a bit more interesting, we could think up something else, such as one of my leaders main generals taking his, or her if I use one of my female generals, legions of soldiers and occupying some NPC nation, and then having an adventure like a storybook, where a small band of misfit cohorts travel the countryside gathering what they need for some sort of a superpowered spell and oust the general's forces, ending with an exiciting battle between the general and the good guys.

I don't mind, I genuinly enjoy playing the bad guy and losing over and over again.

About 40-60% of the population of my nation (All Humans) posess the mystical art of waterbending, controllong water, ice, steam, etc.

OOC: I got the idea from a TV show. The wikipedia article is HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterbending)

In fact, my capital city is made of ice, but other parts of my nation have a warmer climate and are part of the modern world.

Ever hear of Pikrete? It's ice with a little sawdust added. It's stronger than cement, and a LOT cheaper to make. At the end of WWII, the British were passing around the idea of making Aircraft Carriers out of the stuff.

Might be able to work it into your Ice City.

This sounds like a good idea. Are there guidelines to constrict how far we take some of our fantasy based species and technology?

Ever hear of Pikrete? It's ice with a little sawdust added. It's stronger than cement, and a LOT cheaper to make. At the end of WWII, the British were passing around the idea of making Aircraft Carriers out of the stuff.

Might be able to work it into your Ice City.

It's not needed. The capital city has the most concentrated population of waterbenders, and it has an extreme arctic climate. If anything breaks, they can quicky fix it. Thanks anyway

This sounds like a good idea. Are there guidelines to constrict how far we take some of our fantasy based species and technology?
Not as of yet-one of the purposes of this forum is to establish such.

After Dark Ressurection, I'm up for anything, on pretty much any sort of a scale. Simple Embassy exchanges are great, for offical contact, but for something a bit more interesting, we could think up something else, such as one of my leaders main generals taking his, or her if I use one of my female generals, legions of soldiers and occupying some NPC nation, and then having an adventure like a storybook, where a small band of misfit cohorts travel the countryside gathering what they need for some sort of a superpowered spell and oust the general's forces, ending with an exiciting battle between the general and the good guys.

I don't mind, I genuinly enjoy playing the bad guy and losing over and over again.

Hmmm... I knew an RPer that had a "Ministry of Shadow", he left though I'm wondering. Are you perhaps him? Probably better to TG "The Garbage Men"

After Dark Ressurection, I'm up for anything, on pretty much any sort of a scale. Simple Embassy exchanges are great, for offical contact, but for something a bit more interesting, we could think up something else, such as one of my leaders main generals taking his, or her if I use one of my female generals, legions of soldiers and occupying some NPC nation, and then having an adventure like a storybook, where a small band of misfit cohorts travel the countryside gathering what they need for some sort of a superpowered spell and oust the general's forces, ending with an exiciting battle between the general and the good guys.

I don't mind, I genuinly enjoy playing the bad guy and losing over and over again.

I have numerous forgotten realm characters, I could use one of them to help populate such a band of misfit cohorts if this idea is excepted.

Bazalonia, perhaps you shoul find and keep an eye on a thread called 'Dark Ressurection' It will explain the mysterious similarities...

But enough on that.

I have numerous forgotten realm characters, I could use one of them to help populate such a band of misfit cohorts if this idea is excepted.

Better and better. I know just the general to use too. The Queen, the bride of the leader. But like I said, AFTER, Dark Ressurection. I'll have a significantly larger army then.

Bazalonia, perhaps you shoul find and keep an eye on a thread called 'Dark Ressurection' It will explain the mysterious similarities...

But enough on that.



Better and better. I know just the general to use too. The Queen, the bride of the leader. But like I said, AFTER, Dark Ressurection. I'll have a significantly larger army then.

Ah, thought so... welcome back

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable for Magic. If it's not, it's not sufficiently advanced."

Paraphrasing the books by Rick Cook that I previously mentioned---

It is also true that any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology!

:) :) :)

Paraphrasing the books by Rick Cook that I previously mentioned---

It is also true that any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology!

:) :) :)

True-I've been using arcane mathematics to explain Gating for some time.:gundge:

If we went back to the Dark ages with a common lighter, I have no doubt we would be burned at the stake with our own lighter as witches. :)

Don't be ridiculous-they hanged witches then-burning didn't start until the Age of Reason.

Don't be ridiculous-they hanged witches then-burning didn't start until the Age of Reason.

But I like being ridiculous. Besides, considering the thread topic, does the time they burned witches really matter?

Well, depending on what the ground rules actually end up being, we could have a Ravenloft-style fantasy realm with widely differing cultures, races, and difficulties, all pulled hither and yon by conflicting darklords using everyone as puppets to effect their own escapes and/or dominance. That way, everyone gets a villain to deal with as well as a culture capable of spawning heroes.

My nation would be a perfect Ravenloft setting, I mean a land were the undead rule over the living. It is almost like Darkon to a weird degree…

Or Northern Europe, where the barrows of the dead held great wealth and dominance over the living, or any modern Vampire campaign, where the intrigues of the dead jockeying for social position manipulate the events under which the living exist.
Undead make great villains-like professional hitmen, you don't feel bad no matter what you do to them. Give me all-too human evils, so the players have to question their own morality-the medic buying cadavers for his researches, leading to the disappearance of the homeless, then the poor, then accelerating to better maintained cadavers-all for the good of Science. Forcing someone to weigh the results of the research against the repercussions is much more satisfying than a "quick fix".

I could whack up a quick map in AutoRealm if we're going to start something. I'd leave it vague, though, so we can still have our Volcanic Badlands and Ashen Wastelands, along with the picturesque valleys and that.

Or, here's an idea, perhaps we good have a region of fairly small human states for the baddies to generally bugger up, and change the initially friendly terrain to suit? I suppose the Gooduns would feature as the lesser evil or the regional power over the mountains, but so few people play good as gold empires on NS...

Well, my idea for the day.

My muri prefer mushroom jungles with lots of dinosaurs and giant insects, but we're kids at heart. Eight hundred pound carnivorous children with no societal taboos on the sentience of our food, but still kids.

The Arachnians prefer dark places, somewhat damp, to attract the insects they feed upon.

The Aquamarinians require a completly aquatic environment, and prefer one with a large coral reef.

Gareens are even stupider than they sound, and the only living beings capable of failing an I.Q. Test. It doesn't matter where they are, their still too damn stupid to do anything, which is why the Aquamarinians control them, so usually their found in watery areas, although they are still live soley on land, usually in desert like areas. I know the two requirements clash, but even the Sahara has The Nile.

The Magekillers could be of any race, but originally were human. However, as they all descended from the same man, they are also all related, however distantly, and thus may be a half-breed. They could be found anywhere and everywhere.

Not impossible at all. Large Sheltered Harbour (one clearly visible from space, crater perhaps?) near the Equator, coastal regions form a large rainforest, with large mountains just visible which prevent rain from heading to the other side with their height, which also have plenty of damp caverns due to being extinct volcanoes and in the path of dampness. On the other side of these mountains (fairly shallow range) is the desert, one that is easily accessible though conveniently placed paths through the mountains carved by glaciers from an Ice Age.

Anyone else up for highlighting what they'd like in their land? I'm not sure what I'll play as, I'll see what everyone else does.

Man if somebody didnt delete my nswiki nation page it be a whole lot easier. We're anthro dragons, we live in cities domed by glass because the entire country is covered in desert and no more than 20,000 people live in each city and also we have the worst weather in NS. We have no knowledge of magic other than making airplanes fly and boats float.

Undead make great villains-like professional hitmen, you don't feel bad no matter what you do to them. Give me all-too human evils, so the players have to question their own morality-the medic buying cadavers for his researches, leading to the disappearance of the homeless, then the poor, then accelerating to better maintained cadavers-all for the good of Science. Forcing someone to weigh the results of the research against the repercussions is much more satisfying than a "quick fix".

...which is why the undead also make great tortured-soul heroes. These, you care about, because they've overcome so much just for the good to shine through.

Since normal nations are predominant on NS, I made my nation a normal nation. I'd love to do some role playing with an RP nation. I'm cowriting a fantasy illustrated novel, so I've got plenty of ideas for stuff, especially a cool magic system.


I'll put some thought into it and create a factbook. I think i'll stick with a predominantly human society, and probably go a bit magitech, though not too much.

Not impossible at all. Large Sheltered Harbour (one clearly visible from space, crater perhaps?) near the Equator, coastal regions form a large rainforest, with large mountains just visible which prevent rain from heading to the other side with their height, which also have plenty of damp caverns due to being extinct volcanoes and in the path of dampness. On the other side of these mountains (fairly shallow range) is the desert, one that is easily accessible though conveniently placed paths through the mountains carved by glaciers from an Ice Age.

Anyone else up for highlighting what they'd like in their land? I'm not sure what I'll play as, I'll see what everyone else does.

My creatures I completly made up myself. I have others of course, but terrain is irrelevant to them, and some live in space itself. The map you described sounds about right for them all to get along.

Ordo Drakul's also. That would be but one region as well.

The Kath Jal only requires three things; Firtle land for growing spices, large amounts of Cinnibar, and lots of stone most likely from the same place as Cinnibar.

Oh and very few trees.

Following the trend...

I'd imagine my nation being in a rather steriotypical welsh-y landscape: Green fields below sharp rocky crags, with a jagged coastline. That kind of thing. Snowy winters, Stormy summers, with patches of warm, bright, sunny days here and there. Add some high snowy mountains in the background though. Also, some merepeople inhabited islands out at see would be cool.



What I was thinking of starting was just a campaign thread, where we all start with either a large army, or a pumped wizard, or something equivalently strong. Some of us would take goodies (elves, good humans, dwarves, and whatnot) and the rest would take baddies (dark elves, demons, undead, etcetera). That would be shorter, more manageable, and more fast paced (so less people dropping out) then a full nation rp. I'd love to do either though.

This is a rethink on my Arcanum idea of roleplay balance: don't technology and science require research to the point that a nation entirely dedicated to them wouldn't have the same time to learn magics as a nation entirely dedicated to the learning of magic? Therefore here is a new idea for avoiding uber-powered nations with both FT and High Magic:

I believe that for a good Fantasy or Multitech Setting you either focus your nation on mastering one of them or on being a "jack of all trades, master of none" and having inferior tech and magic compared to nations dedicated entirely to one of them.

Soviet Steam for example is basically entirely focused on Science and Technology to the point they even have witch hunts as they consider magic as a powerful tool to corrupt human beings and breed every type of exploiter.

So as an hypothetical example, it could be balanced to have in a MT-equivalent timeline PMT tech-dedicated nations with no magic, MT tech nations which also practice magic or 1800s PT or even behind nations almost fully dedicated on magic. Obviously each would have their own strengths and weaknesses in such example, and this could lead to uneasiness between them as well.

I think that with good enough RPers, that shouldn't matter, as making yourself too powerful counts as godmoding and is easily recognisable. I think that the main limit on how could your technology can be should be epoch rather than how good your magic is. I had planned to make my nation 1600s technology, so primitive gunpowder weaponry would be available, and while having the advantage of being usable by all people, is no match for a decent wizard's magic. How powerful your magic can be should be entirely judgement based. Otherwise, things will get rather stupid with tons of rules.

That's just my opinion though. Feel free to disagree.

Just set it up in your factbook and let the rules lawyers hash it out.
EDIT:regarding the map, I will need a volcano in my territory for religious reasons-my muri believe their progenitor crawled out of one from another dimension, birthing their race on the volcano god. It can be in contested territory, but it is sort of important.

I agree with Princes Gardens, it should be up to the player.Its taken me over five years to develop it, under many disguises, but I have finally learned self-control on these forums, as I am going to prove when I write The Book of Darkness.

I have Science, and I have magic, and I regularly blend them in new and exciting ways, I call it Magiscience, and it's its own techpath. Its hard to follow, but I'm doing it, yet I couldn't do it, If I had to shoot myself in the foot for one tech, in order to master another, or shoot myself in the foot, and not master either.

I'm cowriting a fantasy illustrated novel, so I've got plenty of ideas for stuff, especially a cool magic system.

Kewl. I edit novels for a publishing house. If you need some help, let me know.

Thought i might as well get my two fantasy nations on the boards.

The first is the Kingdom of Ice Forge, which is one fourth of the Forsaken Imperial Alliance. The nation is primarlily made up of a race of undead called the Turned, a race that breeds true on its own but can also Turn others. They focus on dark magics and enjoy demon blood merlots. They can easily pass for a human though they would rather not.

The other is the Empire of Azol Nerub. They are a nation of Undead Spider people based of of the Nerubians of WoW. They are also a part of the Forsaken Imperial Alliance.

Dastardly Stench;13350522']Kewl. I edit novels for a publishing house. If you need some help, let me know.

Out of curiosity what publishing house? Because i'm also trying to write fantasy and have developed a large world for some books (though writing and rewriting and writers block plauge me) and am really using this to hone my skills.

Out of curiosity what publishing house? Because i'm also trying to write fantasy and have developed a large world for some books (though writing and rewriting and writers block plauge me) and am really using this to hone my skills.

But for knowing I was an only child, I could've sworn you could be my twin brother.

Out of curiosity what publishing house? Because i'm also trying to write fantasy and have developed a large world for some books (though writing and rewriting and writers block plauge me) and am really using this to hone my skills.

Light Sword Publishing

Would it be considered spamming if I pointed out that the URL is

www.lightswordpublishing.com

?

:) :) :)

The problem with these Fantasy threads is they always peter out. I wonder why they can't keep going?

Don't ask me. I just TG'ed Naasha about "To Travel Lands Untravelled," and he told me to stop reviving it.

I'd really like to see Marvel get to the end of a story for once.

(Anybody else noticed the surprising regularity with which mine ends up being the last nation to post in a thread that I participate in?)

Well, I'm currently doing an "Among the Muri" thread I intend to see to the end, but it is a fantasy thread that ties into a handful of FT threads, under Clarke's Third Law for the convenience of the other players, and "The Beginning", which is the RP thread for the Inhuman League I proposed some time back-I believe Marvel was proffered there, too, but it's been a long time since the OOC thread was touched, and I don't remember correctly. Perhaps you're picking the wrong threads...

I can't do anything fantasy until Dark Ressurection finishes, even if I have to finish it myself, then I'll come back here ready to initiate a Fantasy based RP of such epic porportions, Jolt will have to give us our own forum sepreate from II just to contain it all.

But for knowing I was an only child, I could've sworn you could be my twin brother.

lol, always good to know i'm not alone out there. Any chance that you could give me some feedback on the fanfic im writing to hone my style? Its on Fanfiction.net and is called Rise of the Forsaken (under the Harry Potter category.) (Hope nobody minds this little part of the post!)

Dastardly Stench;13353984']Light Sword Publishing

Would it be considered spamming if I pointed out that the URL is

www.lightswordpublishing.com

?

:) :) :)

I don't think so. In fact i checked out the site. Its interesting. Once ive got some stuff done maybe i'll look into getting published by Light Sword. (though i'd have to ask some questions first.)

I can't do anything fantasy until Dark Ressurection finishes, even if I have to finish it myself, then I'll come back here ready to initiate a Fantasy based RP of such epic porportions, Jolt will have to give us our own forum sepreate from II just to contain it all.

Well when you do intend to start it sign me up! I've been looking for a good solid fantasy RP!

Oh and 100th post!

~The Kingdom of Ice Forge (Nationstate.net), Korraganitar the Nightshadow (on Fanfiction.net)

lol, always good to know i'm not alone out there. Any chance that you could give me some feedback on the fanfic im writing to hone my style? Its on Fanfiction.net and is called Rise of the Forsaken (under the Harry Potter category.) (Hope nobody minds this little part of the post!)



I don't think so. In fact i checked out the site. Its interesting. Once ive got some stuff done maybe i'll look into getting published by Light Sword. (though i'd have to ask some questions first.)



Well when you do intend to start it sign me up! I've been looking for a good solid fantasy RP!

Oh and 100th post!

~The Kingdom of Ice Forge (Nationstate.net), Korraganitar the Nightshadow (on Fanfiction.net)

I'll probably give it a looksy next time I feel like reading.

As for getting published, I want to get published by Tor. However, after remembering the advice of the great writers of yesteryear, don't ever give up your copyrights. Ever.


Back on less serious subjects, I envision a great War. MT and PMT have their massive wars, FT does too, why can't Fantasy have an Epic and far reaching war that will forever horribly alter and scar the face of NS as we know it?

I mean, I do have some plans and ideas, but you know, I have steps to take first.

What are your ideas? Let's have a brainstorm, should help me decide what exactly I'm going to play as.

What are your ideas? Let's have a brainstorm, should help me decide what exactly I'm going to play as.

Well, my idea is this: and that sums up the exactness and shear depth of my ideas. :D

Seriously, We all know I'm Ressurecting Warhaven, bringing back Kajeenith, and making him a backround figure not to be used unless someone asks for it. Literally and figurativly.

Anyways, his directives aren't hard to guess at, just as it isn't terribly difficult to guess at what Slaanesh of The Chaos Pantheon finds entertaining, or, maybe it is. Anyways, this existence around, instead of destroying everything, Kajeenith wants to make creation look like a massive block of swiss cheese (You know, the kind with holes in it), and rip several hundred thousand holes in creation of various sizes scattered at various points.

Now, there is a balance in all things, and a balance to all things. The first is the lesser balance, as it only deals with things that exist, and is comprised mostly of the forces of Life, Death, Good, Evil, Law, and Chaos. Everything else is simply a definition of how these forces interact, and there are pantheons of dieties that deal with nearly every faucet of existence, including keeping these six primal forces in balance.

Then there is the Balance to all things, which is simply whether or not something does, or does not, exist, and if things tip too far towards not existing, then it would throw the lesser balance out of whack and make things generally unpleasant for all concerned, which is of course, everybody.

Now, its not Kajeenith himself doing it, it is his minions, his followers, the people of Warhaven, and anyone else who chooses to side with destroying things, since they can, logically fill in these holes in creation with things of their own image, essentially re-creating existence how they want.

The whole point of this war, is to stop the followers of destruction, and restore the balance, or unbalance it and use your powers to re-write creation after your own path, and then fight off everyone seeking to restore it to normal. Kajeenith just simply wants to destroy it, but having obtained his goal of doing so once before already, he no longer cares if it exists or not, but must follow his own nature, and activly seek its destruction.

I can do my part in several diffrent ways, I just need some creative help in figuring out how. The possibilities are limitless.

I'll probably give it a looksy next time I feel like reading.

As for getting published, I want to get published by Tor. However, after remembering the advice of the great writers of yesteryear, don't ever give up your copyrights. Ever.


Back on less serious subjects, I envision a great War. MT and PMT have their massive wars, FT does too, why can't Fantasy have an Epic and far reaching war that will forever horribly alter and scar the face of NS as we know it?

I mean, I do have some plans and ideas, but you know, I have steps to take first.

Nice plans mate. Truer words have never been spoken regarding Copyrights. Though if you want to be kind to the readers i might look elsewhere besides Tor. They have a great rep and such giants as the WoT series and others, but the actual books have a habit of falling apart. Which really sucks for me, because my Hardcover Knife of Dreams was expensive and now its dying!

Well, my idea is this: and that sums up the exactness and shear depth of my ideas. :D

Seriously, We all know I'm Ressurecting Warhaven, bringing back Kajeenith, and making him a backround figure not to be used unless someone asks for it. Literally and figurativly.

Anyways, his directives aren't hard to guess at, just as it isn't terribly difficult to guess at what Slaanesh of The Chaos Pantheon finds entertaining, or, maybe it is. Anyways, this existence around, instead of destroying everything, Kajeenith wants to make creation look like a massive block of swiss cheese (You know, the kind with holes in it), and rip several hundred thousand holes in creation of various sizes scattered at various points.

Now, there is a balance in all things, and a balance to all things. The first is the lesser balance, as it only deals with things that exist, and is comprised mostly of the forces of Life, Death, Good, Evil, Law, and Chaos. Everything else is simply a definition of how these forces interact, and there are pantheons of dieties that deal with nearly every faucet of existence, including keeping these six primal forces in balance.

Then there is the Balance to all things, which is simply whether or not something does, or does not, exist, and if things tip too far towards not existing, then it would throw the lesser balance out of whack and make things generally unpleasant for all concerned, which is of course, everybody.

Now, its not Kajeenith himself doing it, it is his minions, his followers, the people of Warhaven, and anyone else who chooses to side with destroying things, since they can, logically fill in these holes in creation with things of their own image, essentially re-creating existence how they want.

The whole point of this war, is to stop the followers of destruction, and restore the balance, or unbalance it and use your powers to re-write creation after your own path, and then fight off everyone seeking to restore it to normal. Kajeenith just simply wants to destroy it, but having obtained his goal of doing so once before already, he no longer cares if it exists or not, but must follow his own nature, and activly seek its destruction.

I can do my part in several diffrent ways, I just need some creative help in figuring out how. The possibilities are limitless.

Hmmmmmm, im not familiar with the names involved though i have always loved (and used extensivly) the concept of the balance in fantasy. I myself think that a most interesting way of doing things would be to have those holes occasionally end up sucking things in to fill them on their own i.e. a city from say.... my nation? Of course, im likely to have a character/race that seeks to restore the balance in the truest sense, which is to say the don't seek the retarded "Light side "bring balance to the force" by killing the dark side" stuff; they are well and truly Gray.

Not to mention Undead! Gatta love the Undead.

Balance is for people who can't believe normal people can handle overwhelming odds. The forces of Chaos hardly care if they overpower you, and there is no Oversight Committee to ensure things stay "fair". Evil will build to the point where it feels comfortable, then stride forth, not caring if it's "balanced" or not. I have a noblewoman in my nation who supports any attempt to tip power in her favor, and will doubtless eventually back the right horse to get enough power to menace my fair land. For now, her Poison Maidens and legions are enough to protect her with the odd foray, but not always...

Balance is for people who can't believe normal people can handle overwhelming odds. The forces of Chaos hardly care if they overpower you, and there is no Oversight Committee to ensure things stay "fair". Evil will build to the point where it feels comfortable, then stride forth, not caring if it's "balanced" or not. I have a noblewoman in my nation who supports any attempt to tip power in her favor, and will doubtless eventually back the right horse to get enough power to menace my fair land. For now, her Poison Maidens and legions are enough to protect her with the odd foray, but not always...


I think you mistook the concept of balance for the concept of fairness; in my nation at least they are vastly differant. The people in my nation have a saying: "The balance works in ways beyond mortality."

I'm both a fantasy and MT roleplayer, and I'm fairly active. I'm not usually involved in may fantasy threads because, I find they all die out and I tend to prefer MT. One of the reasons I think Fantasy threads die out is because they tend to be long, very long actually and the story often moves slowly and this doesn't appeal to everyone and they get bored or become inactive. Myself I like both slow and fast paced RPs, so long as their is a nice continuos amount of posting.

Balance is for people who can't believe normal people can handle overwhelming odds. The forces of Chaos hardly care if they overpower you, and there is no Oversight Committee to ensure things stay "fair". Evil will build to the point where it feels comfortable, then stride forth, not caring if it's "balanced" or not. I have a noblewoman in my nation who supports any attempt to tip power in her favor, and will doubtless eventually back the right horse to get enough power to menace my fair land. For now, her Poison Maidens and legions are enough to protect her with the odd foray, but not always...

Balance does not nessesitate the lack of overwhelming odds, niether do overwhelming odds dictate a lack of balance.

I'm afraid you've misunderstood the terms in which I use balance.

Lets put it this way, Law Versus Chaos, a long standing and well understood battle. Lets say that through some outside factor, Chaos ceased to be, leaving us with nothing but Law. Seems like it would be a blessing, right? having everything ordered and organised. It would take totalitarianisim to the extremes, for at its very nature, Law detests change, even to the point of stagnation. the entirety of the universe would grind to a halt, for it takes the powers of Chaos to allow for change.

But that does not mean a lot of Chaos is good either. If the situation was reversed and there was no more Law, then there would be no order by which things could keep from changing. Grass would become a tree would become an elephant would loose its skin and die a very agonising death all in the same instance to the same original object. Life would become unsupportable for mutation would occur too quickly for it to adapt which would leave only death, at that point even a scratch could kill instantly and all things began helplessly talespinning into oblivion. Concepts such as Good and Evil fly out the window as everything panics in its final moments of life, and with no more point to its continued being, death itself ceases to be taking the afterlife with it and everything comes to an abrupt halt because there is no more definition to existence.

If you want overwhelming odds, you'll have that aplenty, trust me.

And yes, there is such an oversight committee. The Chinese have known of it for centuries. it is of course, Taijitu, Yin and Yang. Each side carries the seed of its opposite. Within Chaos lies buried the seed of Law, and in Law, Chaos. If one becomes too powerful in its ways, it inevitably becomes its opposite, for is not too much law, Chaotic, and in extreme amounts of
Chaos, could one not cobble together a form of Law?
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Back to the original matter at hand, a Fantasy RP, in what way could the followers of Kajeenith follow his directives. Perhaps find the six ancient shrines and attempt to destroy them?

I myself think that a most interesting way of doing things would be to have those holes occasionally end up sucking things in to fill them on their own i.e. a city from say.... my nation? Of course, im likely to have a character/race that seeks to restore the balance in the truest sense, which is to say the don't seek the retarded "Light side "bring balance to the force" by killing the dark side" stuff; they are well and truly Gray.
Ice, I plan on letting people have a couple hundred void Nexus(Nexi, Nexuses, what's the plural of Nexus?) to work with, so long as they only use them on themselves and not another player, unless they work it out with said player and inform me in advance. (A Void Nexus is the gateway to the void)

I've just laid out the general concept, the meat and filler is something we all need to work on.

Solar Communes basic organizational principle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_order

Spontaneous order is a term that describes the spontaneous emergence of order out of seeming chaos. It is also a social theory that describes the emergence of various kinds of social order from a combination of self-interested individuals who are not intentionally trying to create order. Supporters of the theory tend to believe that spontaneous order is superior to any kind of order that can be created by a plan or design.

Hope it helps to bring some new ideas.

And there is an old motto which is: "Ordo ab Chao"(Order out of Chaos), and guess which organization this motto belongs to?

"Forces of Chaos" or "Armies of Chaos" can be considered oxymorons, as a "Forces" and "Armies" are one way or another a somewhat, even if minimally, organized group.

Well, I'm currently doing an "Among the Muri" thread I intend to see to the end, but it is a fantasy thread that ties into a handful of FT threads, under Clarke's Third Law for the convenience of the other players, and "The Beginning", which is the RP thread for the Inhuman League I proposed some time back-I believe Marvel was proffered there, too, but it's been a long time since the OOC thread was touched, and I don't remember correctly. Perhaps you're picking the wrong threads...

Just NOT the ones where the commander looks arrogantly on at his forces and launches another million missiles at his opponent. That was boring before I was born. And that was in 1964.

More news on what I may play. This is based from the Nicor I played in Scand's rp. And is subject to change.

I prefer to play as emerging powers rather than established ones. So most people will only know the people I play as, as the strange beasts that inhabit the once fairly nice lava ridden, ash covered and generally unpleasant valleys of the Maw Mountains and it's foothills.

Basically, a place no one wants to go. And this will be my inner sanctum. In which the Nicor begin to build a civilisation after a large burst of intelligence through the species.

More later, I have to go out now.

I'm almost done with Dark Ressurection, step 2, regathering all my forces and getting a homeland (The Book of Darkness). After that Kajeenith becomes a backround figure. I'm not saying I won't ever use him again, but I am saying he'll be like the top block of the american food pyramid, to be used sparingly, such as in a speaking role.

lol, just read through the whole thread. Interesting discussions.

I've had my fantasy nation in mind (all the details) for about a year-plus now, but I'm still trying to work up the willpower to write it all down.

Any chance something actually starts here?

Here's an idea. Who has the sort of empire that likes to claim vast swathes of harsh land, with nothing but a flag and a mention in some documents?

...and it's a time warp.

Anyhow, continuation of that post.

Basically, what your looking at is some not too dissimilar to the Zerg in basic principle - low tech, large nation that is stronger with it's many different species' 'talents' than in coin or technology. Obviously, I probably won't have a Kerrigan-clone or the traditional organic 'hive' architecture that is popular with Sci Fi (though the later is a possibility, I haven't got a clear picture of the races I'm aiming to rp as).

But I aim for them to be malicious, evil even. Probably associated a lot with shadows, lava, and ash.

Could I ask, would anyone have a problem with a demi-demonic race? Still with the listed features, but a more magical being than a normal one. Perhaps due to some Demonology cult they are stuck on this world, with a good deal of the power sapped?

lol, just read through the whole thread. Interesting discussions.

I've had my fantasy nation in mind (all the details) for about a year-plus now, but I'm still trying to work up the willpower to write it all down.

Any chance something actually starts here?

yes, and if not here, then somewhere else, but before the finish of 2008, I plan on starting a fantasy adventure. (Its just ashame I only have 354 days left to do it, if I could just have one more day.)

Here's an idea. Who has the sort of empire that likes to claim vast swathes of harsh land, with nothing but a flag and a mention in some documents?

...and it's a time warp.

Anyhow, continuation of that post.

Basically, what your looking at is some not too dissimilar to the Zerg in basic principle - low tech, large nation that is stronger with it's many different species' 'talents' than in coin or technology. Obviously, I probably won't have a Kerrigan-clone or the traditional organic 'hive' architecture that is popular with Sci Fi (though the later is a possibility, I haven't got a clear picture of the races I'm aiming to rp as).

But I aim for them to be malicious, evil even. Probably associated a lot with shadows, lava, and ash.

Could I ask, would anyone have a problem with a demi-demonic race? Still with the listed features, but a more magical being than a normal one. Perhaps due to some Demonology cult they are stuck on this world, with a good deal of the power sapped?

I don't mind. I have things of all types, demons, angels, fantasy creatures, real creatures that have been "altered" by living within The Void, a demi-demonic race sounds alright.

A race of undead that has actually gained the ability to breed would be okay, right?

A race of undead that has actually gained the ability to breed would be okay, right?

interesting, and, okay with me, but then, I'm not one to ask, I'm okay with practically anything anyone could come up with, you'll have to try really hard to come up with something that isn't okay with me.

interesting, and, okay with me, but then, I'm not one to ask, I'm okay with practically anything anyone could come up with, you'll have to try really hard to come up with something that isn't okay with me.

So i could control Gargalsmurch the Giant Angry Continent of Doom?

So i could control Gargalsmurch the Giant Angry Continent of Doom?

Yes, because then I can legitimatly use Kajeenith's powers and combat Gargalsmurch and simply absorb the giant angry continent of Doom into the void, instead of exercising self-restraint and not using him in the RP.

Note, I did not say I would destroy Gargalsmurch, just absorb him into the void via an oversized Void Nexus and keep him trapped in there against his (your) will.

Now, if your done being silly, we can get back to legit business.

A race of undead that has actually gained the ability to breed would be okay, right?

While I have no problem with this, as a question, don't the undead reproduce by inducting others into their ranks?

Depends on the "undead." For example, in a short story that I recently had published in "The Edge of Twilight Magazine" (entitled "The Pregnant Vampire"), there is a race of vampires that reproduces by laying embryos in the bellies of host humans (sorta gives new meaning to the term "oral gratification"). They are "undead" in that the newborns take on the appearance and many of the memories of the host.

Well, will ya just get a load o' that.

Seems like I'm the only one of you "hardcore fantasy types" who's bothered to post in the thread in many, many days.

Looks like there's going to be another thread where I'm the last one to post in it--unfortunately.

(If you guys don't have the guts to finish a thread, why do you bother starting them?)

I am still fallowing the thread it had so many promissing ideas, way to get my hopes up, mabey we can rez the thread.

Dastardly Stench;13390599'](If you guys don't have the guts to finish a thread, why do you bother starting them?)

1) I just like teasing people :)

2) I thought somebody else was going to have started something by now.

3) If you really want me to, I can whip up a fantasy RP of some sort real quick like, and sic it on you when you least expect it. (I am watching you, you know. HEY! I saw that! :D:eek: )

I think we should all use this thread to discuss what kind of rp we want to do then make a fantasy RP the likes of which jolt has never seen.:D

1) I just like teasing people :)

2) I thought somebody else was going to have started something by now.

3) If you really want me to, I can whip up a fantasy RP of some sort real quick like, and sic it on you when you least expect it. (I am watching you, you know. HEY! I saw that! :D:eek: )

OOC:

1) Oh, no. I'm sooooooooo utterly crushed. :-P

2) You're starting things, alright... :-P :-P

3) I'm watching you, too. You should put that puny thing away.

:-P :-P :-P

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On a more serious note, we can always use the Mount Yendor thing if nobody else has any ideas. Wish that somebody would finish the Ardvada thread, though. We can use this thread to outline the basic plotline. It's the almost same thing as rolling out a new thread.

A quick glance at my muri factbook provides numerous scenarios in their history that would be adequate fare for a thread, and are sparse enough on details as to leave various scenes available with a wide variety of leeway-the destruction of the Holy Empire by Lord Death-on-a-Horse and his co-aggressor and rival Rufelza immediately comes to mind.

Now, if your done being silly, we can get back to legit business.

Ummm, yeah sorry...

'Fraid i'm not really familiar with these "Muri"... who are they? Also, we could also go for something of an "open" FT fantasy thread, i.e: something like one of the colonization threads that are big in MT right now except using our fantasy nations.

Wait a minute, a storm is coming!
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The nation of Itselzier, a nation long plagued by the forces of Chaos.
Queen Latvia, the 23rd has put out a call for help, begging for heros from foreign lands to help her end the chaotic Curse.

Enter your Hero/Heroine, do you have what it takes to defeat the source behind this Chaos, and restore her nation? The enemy is many, and the challange is great, but the rewards are greater...

You've been travling down the dreary muddy road, the light has faded, and the rain is gone. You think of turning in for the night, keep your strength fresh. Up ahead, you spy the Blue Boar Inn, the sign seems animated, this is just the smallest of Chaos effects.
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I have a whole list of NPC's and a Villain to go along with this quest idea.

I think what we are talking about is using this thread as a springboard for another fantasy rp.

I think what we are talking about is using this thread as a springboard for another fantasy rp.

That's what I just posted. We can hash out more details if people are intrested.

That's what I just posted. We can hash out more details if people are intrested.

Ok that's sorta what I thought might be going on, just a little bit of miss-information.

'Fraid i'm not really familiar with these "Muri"... who are they? Also, we could also go for something of an "open" FT fantasy thread, i.e: something like one of the colonization threads that are big in MT right now except using our fantasy nations.

The muri (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537021) are my charming little citizens-an Elder Race who have suffered greatly and endured. I may send one to aid that Queen, perhaps a young exorcist of the Ordo Boztakangi...

Yeah, yeah. Get the thread going and I'll send my pet demon to help get things moving along.

Some things I'm going to play by ear, I have a loose story idea in mind, with plenty of wriggle room for the unexpected.

The muri (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537021) are my charming little citizens-an Elder Race who have suffered greatly and endured. I may send one to aid that Queen, perhaps a young exorcist of the Ordo Boztakangi...

Well then The Kath'Jal (http://http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12750625#post12750625) will have to send over a Mantid mind mage and his Werneri bodyguard.

I will have this intresting new RP up tomorrow.

Well then The Kath'Jal (http://http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12750625#post12750625) will have to send over a Mantid mind mage and his Werneri bodyguard.

That link aint workin for me man.

That link aint workin for me man.

Sorry about that try this.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12750625

ITs up:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13398489#post13398489

Are we going to keep "The Chronicals of Ardvada" (try saying "Ardvada" three times fast) going?

Thought that this would be important:

When I brought my character into the "Latvia's Call" thread, he was straight out of hell.

His method of reproduction HAS NOT been changed.

I'm hoping to make a running gag out of him ALMOST getting some. :) :) :)

But someone should alter his anatomy sometime in this thread, before there's a problem.

I am predominately a FT through PT nation. However do like to dabble in magic. Some of you might have encountered one of my characters in some odd-ball rp that drowned. Either way I'd like to get in on this rp of your's Warhaven, if you'll take me.

As to how: I plan to have a war company of my nations troops get sucked into a portal at the behest of a semi-mad warlock who leads them in a quest to help turn the tide of mounting chaos. After being given that free trip to another world you can imagine how nice and benevolent my men will be towards the warlock. :D

Here is a link to my fantasy/pt nation: Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537584)

Dastardly Stench;13423579']Thought that this would be important:

When I brought my character into the "Latvia's Call" thread, he was straight out of hell.

His method of reproduction HAS NOT been changed.

I'm hoping to make a running gag out of him ALMOST getting some. :) :) :)

But someone should alter his anatomy sometime in this thread, before there's a problem.

Have I got a boss battle for him. If its true that hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn, and its also true that at certain times of the month, certain pre-existing conditions can make a woman's company unpleasant, then it must also be equally true that these same conditions are perhaps 10 - 100 times worse in a demoness. I think I'll make up just such an old, friend, for the first temple boss for Marvel, seeing as how everyone gets their own private boss in that temple.


I am predominately a FT through PT nation. However do like to dabble in magic. Some of you might have encountered one of my characters in some odd-ball rp that drowned. Either way I'd like to get in on this rp of your's Warhaven, if you'll take me.

As to how: I plan to have a war company of my nations troops get sucked into a portal at the behest of a semi-mad warlock who leads them in a quest to help turn the tide of mounting chaos. After being given that free trip to another world you can imagine how nice and benevolent my men will be towards the warlock. :D

Here is a link to my fantasy/pt nation: Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537584)

It would depend entirely on how many people, as I designed this to be a character based RP, however, a captain or some such with not more than 15 men following his lead should be ok.

Have I got a boss battle for him. If its true that hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn, and its also true that at certain times of the month, certain pre-existing conditions can make a woman's company unpleasant, then it must also be equally true that these same conditions are perhaps 10 - 100 times worse in a demoness. I think I'll make up just such an old, friend, for the first temple boss for Marvel, seeing as how everyone gets their own private boss in that temple.

Temple? What temple?

It would depend entirely on how many people, as I designed this to be a character based RP, however, a captain or some such with not more than 15 men following his lead should be ok.

Yea, there's only about seven of them. I'll post sometime today.

Well... My national animal is a dragon and I live in sheol.
So I think I pass.
Nflheim salutes You.

Dastardly Stench;13424415']Temple? What temple?

*points to the giant twisting Chaos Temple of Doom just over the horizon*
I've mentioned temples several times in the thread, there's three of them, and in each one, Listh'vis comes and attacks us again with an even more difficult creature, until the third one, when we fight him.

Yea, there's only about seven of them. I'll post sometime today.

Alrighty then. Currently we're all in a village getting ready to PARTY!

Hey guys, sorry to be so slow in replying, but i've injured my right hand by cutting the right middle knuckle tendon in an accident where i work. i can post a good reply by monday night when this huge splint is taken off. until then i'm stuck with my left hand.

Hey guys, sorry to be so slow in replying, but i've injured my right hand by cutting the right middle knuckle tendon in an accident where i work. i can post a good reply by monday night when this huge splint is taken off. until then i'm stuck with my left hand.

Sorry to hear about your accident.:( Glad it was just a tendon and not the whole hand, or arm, or worst of all, person.:(

Speaking as someone who endured the rigors of a heart attack last June, I sympathize! Boy, do I sympathize!!!!!!!