NationStates Jolt Archive


Declaration of War

Njudung
17-12-2007, 03:56
We, the united tribes of Muscovy have met in a great þing and have concluded that the North is their ancestral right. The other nations have spoiled it. They have polluted the clean bright snow and ice with poison and their savaging of the Earth's face and Sky melt the lands we once hunted. We thus declare war on the corrupters and demand that all peoples leave at once all land up to 60 degrees longitude including Greenland, the Kamchatka penninsula and the Aleutian Islands. Anything less than full cooperation will be met with violence.
Shansekia
17-12-2007, 04:01
OOC: It's not good to start RPing with a war against such a large group. It's NEVER good to declare war on a large amount of people. Start off with some peaceful RPing, grow a nation that can support an army sensically (5% of your population is the de facto max). And not everyone RPs to an Earth geography anyway...
The Beatus
17-12-2007, 04:08
Two Bums on the street, the City of the Blessed

Bum 2: Oh, you hear, so tiny nation called Njudung, has declared war on us.

Bum 1: Wow, really? Wow, well this is what that $1.6 trillion USD defense budget comes in handy for.

Bum 2: Yeah, I doubt they could even afford one of our battleships, never mind the 50 we have. I just think its funny they think they can challenge us.

Bum 1: So what is the government doing about this, "declaration?"

Bum 2: They are paying any attention to it. They've determined that it has no bearing on future government plans, and I quote, "Our experts have determined that it is unlikely these people are capable of reaching our nation, and if they do, the stand no chance of doing anything more than dieing.

Bum 1: Well thank the Great Bob we live in a nation that cares about defense.
Epsilon Halo
17-12-2007, 04:08
Hey, now, my country is in a 23-island archipelago in the Arctic Ocean, and I don't want a bunch of spear-wielding tribal Siberians in my backyard. Besides, I'm 18.4 times larger than you and I have a fully-developed modern military+discipline. Think twice before you throw those flint spears at assault rifles.

OOC: Great way to leave a first impression.... declaring war on frickin' everyone.....
Epsilon Halo
17-12-2007, 04:26
Two Bums on the street, the City of the Blessed

Bum 2: Oh, you hear, so tiny nation called Njudung, has declared war on us.

Bum 1: Wow, really? Wow, well this is what that $1.6 trillion USD defense budget comes in handy for.

Bum 2: Yeah, I doubt they could even afford one of our battleships, never mind the 50 we have. I just think its funny they think they can challenge us.

Bum 1: So what is the government doing about this, "declaration?"

Bum 2: They are paying any attention to it. They've determined that it has no bearing on future government plans, and I quote, "Our experts have determined that it is unlikely these people are capable of reaching our nation, and if they do, the stand no chance of doing anything more than dieing.

Bum 1: Well thank the Great Bob we live in a nation that cares about defense.

My version:

In the meeting room of Complex 90, Rho Halo Island, Epsilon Halo:

General of Army (GA):Njdung has declared war on us.

Admiral of the Navy (GN): Damn those scrappy little countries...

Commandant of the Air Command (GC):Stupid too, they're not bombing us. They should have a flotilla of 52's if you want to take out a 6th of the globe.

GN: Declare war on them? We still have 80% of the Army, 95% of the Command, and 85% of the Navy. Even with the fighting in Greal, we could take them out.

GA: I doubt they could put up much resistance. They can't afford one of our Paladins, and that's from 1971.

GC: Where a 20 trillion e$ GDP and the perfect draft system pays off.

GN: They don't have a navy in the first place. They make a raft, put somebody in with a gun, and call it a battleship.

GA: Let's just declare war. We'll attack during breakfast and finish by dinner.

GC: A single bomb should do it.

GA: Great. Bloodless. Wastes only the $1,000 spent in getting that bomb. Do it.

GN: Sure.

GC: What the hell.

So war was declared. Njdung, all you base are belong to us.
Nistolonia
17-12-2007, 04:32
"Incoming sir." The intel analyst working glanced over at his boss, who was stretched, catlike, in his chair, half asleep.
"erm?" muttered the chief, sleeply.
"It appears we've just been declared war upon."
"What??" The chief, now fully (well, mostly), awake, jumped to his feet.
"The nation of Njudung apparently has declared war on most of the world. However--"
The chief cut him off. "What are their capabilities?"
"Well sir, their defense budget is about...ah...nothing. The rest of their budget is...well...similar."
"Ah." The chief fall back into his chair. "Well, make note of it. I'm sure when the rowboats hit our shores we'll know who it was. Wake me up if something interesting happens"
Greal
17-12-2007, 04:34
OOC: I'm 271.2 times bigger then you Njudung, are you sure?
Shansekia
17-12-2007, 04:38
OOC: C'mon guys, I'm sure he's got the idea, and is checking out some other threads. quite a few of us wanted to do this when we first started RPing, I'm sure.
Theoroshia
17-12-2007, 04:40
OOC: I knew installing the Anti-Bow and Arrow Defense System would come in handy. Take that, modern science!
Nistolonia
17-12-2007, 04:43
OOC: True, true. He's not as rude as most of these new warmongerers.

To Njudung:
Since you have an entirely new nation, with a fragile economy and 5 million citizens, its probably best if you don't declare war on the world just yet. Browse the other threads here, look for something more your size (maybe not war...something diplomatic, perhaps). Then maybe advance up to something larger. But declaring war on the Great White North is probably a good way to get all the big, angry countries to do nasty, unspeakable things like invade, even if you are a big country.
I suppose my advance boils down to: Take it easy
imported_ViZion
17-12-2007, 04:57
Njudung, please retract your threats. It will only make problems worse for you. Should you be willing to do so, we would be interested in aligning with your nation and assist you in building up.

Thank you,

President Tanner Kilo
Shansekia
17-12-2007, 05:02
OOC: Njudung, you've started an OOC thread fad in a IC topic
Jenrak
17-12-2007, 05:05
Two Bums on the street, the City of the Blessed

Bum 2: Oh, you hear, so tiny nation called Njudung, has declared war on us.

Bum 1: Wow, really? Wow, well this is what that $1.6 trillion USD defense budget comes in handy for.

Bum 2: Yeah, I doubt they could even afford one of our battleships, never mind the 50 we have. I just think its funny they think they can challenge us.

Bum 1: So what is the government doing about this, "declaration?"

Bum 2: They are paying any attention to it. They've determined that it has no bearing on future government plans, and I quote, "Our experts have determined that it is unlikely these people are capable of reaching our nation, and if they do, the stand no chance of doing anything more than dieing.

Bum 1: Well thank the Great Bob we live in a nation that cares about defense.

The Jenrakian Amalgamate laughs at your nation's terrible economic webbing, when such apt and knowledgable people are homeless.
Stoklomolvi
17-12-2007, 05:12
[OOC: Jenrak, The Beatus was making a joke. Njudung, my nation is also based in Russia; you may want to reconsider your threats.]
The Grand World Order
17-12-2007, 05:15
To: Njudung
From: The Grand World Order Arctic Circle Alliance

To the nation of Njudung; The Grand World Order Continential Divisions of North America and Asia are directly targeted by your threat, and the city of Magna Polis lies near the said area. As such, your nation will be used as a live-subject training force. As six Provincial Protection Garrisons lay waste to your forces, remember that war is never a good way to start your nation.
Jenrak
17-12-2007, 05:15
[OOC: Jenrak, The Beatus was making a joke. Njudung, my nation is also based in Russia; you may want to reconsider your threats.]

OOC: I am fully aware of that. However, making a joke ICly doesn't mean that I should respond jokingly.
Shansekia
17-12-2007, 05:22
OOC: This thing has reached 2 pages of OOC posts.

It's a new fad!
The Grand World Order
17-12-2007, 05:23
OOC: This thing has reached 2 pages of OOC posts.

It's a new fad!


OOC: omigod, omigod, hoo want chawklit pudeeng?
Shansekia
17-12-2007, 05:26
OOC: [girl"like"voice]we should, like, toTAlly move this thread to, like, general category, TOTALLY![/girl"like"voice]
The Grand World Order
17-12-2007, 05:30
OOC: [girl"like"voice]we should, like, toTAlly move this thread to, like, general category, TOTALLY![/girl"like"voice]

OOC: OMIGOD DAT WUD B GUD. YA, DAT WUD B GUD. REEL GUD. REEL REEL GUDLY.
Epsilon Halo
17-12-2007, 15:07
OOC: I knew installing the Anti-Bow and Arrow Defense System would come in handy. Take that, modern science!

So did I! And I also have Anti-Slingshot and Anti-Spear Portable shields (Kevlar barricade).
Epsilon Halo
17-12-2007, 15:12
My nation's.................................................................... (writer's block)
Njudung
18-12-2007, 00:56
Just quickly before I take over the most useles and barren part of the world I would like pose this question: can I not have fun? You are all like *high pitched and sarcastically whiny voice* "Nooo. You cant do that! Make you nation bigger! You cant mobilize an entire country for war! Noooooooob!" You know what I say to that? 1:Its a bleedin' RPG! ROLE PLAYING GAME! I'm supposed to act out a part and my part is this: tiny yet higly nationalistic/militaristic country in the middle of the north pole. 2: Attila the Hun mobilized his whole country against Rome and so can I.

So in summary: if you dont like unrealistic actions made in the spirit of me having a good time then.....uh.....go do....something..........else. Yeah.

P.S. Tribes of Muscovites have taken Greenland, North Russia, and alot of those tiny islands north of Canada. Ph3@r |\/|3. We now have even MORE snow.:D
pps im betting there are tons of countries in nation states that overlap. thank god for cyberspace
Njudung
18-12-2007, 01:14
To whoever wants to bomb us with a bomb
We have predicted this move and have set up a tactical flying-stuff-shooter-downer using the already existing north pole, another pole, a HUGE rubber band, and a walrus tusk. Phhthhhbbt!!!!:p

P.S. I'll be serious with anyone who wants to be serious but I was just being silly when I started this;)
P.P.S. Whats OOC?:confused:
P.P.P.S. Sorry about all the "P.S."s:rolleyes:
Epsilon Halo
18-12-2007, 01:19
Just quickly before I take over the most useles and barren part of the world I would like pose this question: can I not have fun? You are all like *high pitched and sarcastically whiny voice* "Nooo. You cant do that! Make you nation bigger! You cant mobilize an entire country for war! Noooooooob!" You know what I say to that? 1:Its a bleedin' RPG! ROLE PLAYING GAME! I'm supposed to act out a part and my part is this: tiny yet higly nationalistic/militaristic country in the middle of the north pole. 2: Attila the Hun mobilized his whole country against Rome and so can I.

So in summary: if you dont like unrealistic actions made in the spirit of me having a good time then.....uh.....go do....something..........else. Yeah.

P.S. Tribes of Muscovites have taken Greenland, North Russia, and alot of those tiny islands north of Canada. Ph3@r |\/|3. We now have even MORE snow.:D

Dude, then use this: :). please, use the friggin toolbar, for 133tn355's sake.
Epsilon Halo
18-12-2007, 01:20
Hey, you can't RP other nations' territories....:mad:
Yaybor
18-12-2007, 01:24
P.P.S. Whats OOC?:confused:

OOC means Out Of Character,
Nistolonia
18-12-2007, 01:28
Epsilon, calm down a bit. We were all misguided once.
OOC, as Yaybor says, means out of character. You use it to distinguish between roleplaying and talked to the other users. Like.

IC: Bob walked down the street to the building
OOC: I'll be away for the next 2 hours, so if anything happens to bob, use your common sense as to what he does.

Or something like that.
Oily prata
18-12-2007, 01:36
Technically, The North isn't barren. Oil, Cod, Crab, the like are billon dollar industries.
Epsilon Halo
18-12-2007, 01:40
Cooling down... ventilation ducts opening *whirr*.... coolant pumps activated *swoosh, plunk, swoosh*......:p
East Ying
18-12-2007, 01:48
Dear Lord Of Utter Ignorance,
East Ying, being a devout nation, with colonies and mainline above your declaration of "My Own Land", have ceased to agree to your terms, and will not comply with such things. Our land is our land. You are utterly outnumbered by pro RPers and semi-pro rpers. You will loose any war you wage on us. We hope that this gets through to you, and you change your mind and actually make something peaceful, for example, you can make trade agreements, or ask to settle colonies. Until you actually are a well-known nation, at least in a region of 2, you will acomplish nothing by such posts as these. And that does not go to only you, but to all people that dare declare war as their first post.

To tell the truth, my first post, was about to be war. But instead, i believe it was somewhat of a trade agreement, if i can recall correctly. Take more time to RP, maybe go to a few stickies. But don't declare war until you know how to RP. On that note, i will leave you to think over your idiotic actions. I'm sure many will agree with me.
Stoklomolvi
18-12-2007, 01:48
I'm still sitting, still sitting, on that placid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door- wait that's the Raven. You should read the STICKIES and learn to RP CORRECTLY before attempting to WAGE WAR against the WORLD.
Njudung
18-12-2007, 02:01
ooc it started right but it degenerated. sorry

Due to people not liking what I've done and yelling at ME (as in the guy at the keyboard not my nation) I say two things. 1: if it really matters I will not declare war but just annex the part of the world I want and allow those already living there to go about their lives (you can aknowlege my dominion or not but no clubbing baby seals). 2: if I can't do what I want to in a fictional world without people acting like it's real then I see no reason to keep playing especially if a nation is as introverted as mine. Enjoy your GAME.
Anagonia
18-12-2007, 02:02
Remember: Stickies are your friend, and reading them will make your eyes bleed with joy and understanding!
Nistolonia
18-12-2007, 02:07
I know I spontaneously burst into song when i first read the stickies.
Honest.
Xiscapia
18-12-2007, 02:57
ooc it started right but it degenerated. sorry

Due to people not liking what I've done and yelling at ME (as in the guy at the keyboard not my nation) I say two things. 1: if it really matters I will not declare war but just annex the part of the world I want and allow those already living there to go about their lives (you can aknowlege my dominion or not but no clubbing baby seals). 2: if I can't do what I want to in a fictional world without people acting like it's real then I see no reason to keep playing especially if a nation is as introverted as mine. Enjoy your GAME.
*Kills two dozen baby seals*
What NOW?!!
Stoklomolvi
18-12-2007, 03:04
What if you killed them with a gun? Ahhh...

With all seriousness, set up a history for your nation, and still read the stickies.
Shansekia
18-12-2007, 06:13
OOC: LOL, annex everybody...that could turn this topic into IC. And we're SUPPOSED to act like it's real, it's called RP.
imported_ViZion
18-12-2007, 06:32
OOC: Guys, chill out and give him a break already, will ya? He MORE than gets the point... you guys should be helping him, not demoralizing him...
Hamilay
18-12-2007, 06:36
OOC: Guys, chill out and give him a break already, will ya? He MORE than gets the point... you guys should be helping him, not demoralizing him...

1: if it really matters I will not declare war but just annex the part of the world I want and allow those already living there to go about their lives (you can aknowlege my dominion or not but no clubbing baby seals). 2: if I can't do what I want to in a fictional world without people acting like it's real then I see no reason to keep playing especially if a nation is as introverted as mine. Enjoy your GAME.

Ah, I'm not all that sure that he does.
imported_ViZion
18-12-2007, 06:38
Ah, I'm not all that sure that he does.
OOC: I've been talking to him via TG. He gets it.
imported_ViZion
18-12-2007, 06:44
OOC: ^^ and regardless, if he did not get it, don't jump on him over it. Simply help him out to understand this better. And if he refuses to stop his declaration, then leave it to military action and enjoy the destruction of the enemy.

Anyway, people, chill out. People should help guys like this - they could be your best ally in the future, or a great rival. After all, having a great rival is better and much more enjoyable than doing what's been done: basically beating on the guy instead of helping make him better. I never understood why people always do this.
One World Alliance
18-12-2007, 07:13
OOC: ^^ and regardless, if he did not get it, don't jump on him over it. Simply help him out to understand this better. And if he refuses to stop his declaration, then leave it to military action and enjoy the destruction of the enemy.

Anyway, people, chill out. People should help guys like this - they could be your best ally in the future, or a great rival. After all, having a great rival is better and much more enjoyable than doing what's been done: basically beating on the guy instead of helping make him better. I never understood why people always do this.

I agree, poor guy just wants to have fun. You guys should have RP'ed your nations as having begged him to reconsider his actions, as they would have likely led to his defeat, not bombard him with a barrage of criticism about how fledgling nations shouldn't play with the "big boys."

However, to Njudung , I do suggest that you start out with some peacekeeping missions, before you pull out the big guns and start taking on the big dogs. :D


My nation is devoted to peace, and I would be more than happy to help you out with roleplaying peacekeeping activities, or perhaps engaging in military combat with other new, unsuspecting nations. (Keep in mind, since my nation is devoted to peace, I would not be assisting by means of RP capability, but I could help you out behind the scenes).

Anyways, I hope you utilize your nation to its fullest extent here in NS, and I hope you have a blast doing so! After all, that is the entire point behind NS, to just have fun mate.
imported_ViZion
18-12-2007, 07:15
I agree, poor guy just wants to have fun. You guys should have RP'ed your nations as having begged him to reconsider his actions, as they would have likely led to his defeat, not bombard him with a barrage of criticism about how fledgling nations shouldn't play with the "big boys."

However, to Njudung , I do suggest that you start out with some peacekeeping missions, before you pull out the big guns and start taking on the big dogs. :D


My nation is devoted to peace, and I would be more than happy to help you out with roleplaying peacekeeping activities, or perhaps engaging in military combat with other new, unsuspecting nations.

Anyways, I hope you utilize your nation to its fullest extent here in NS, and I hope you have a blast doing so! After all, that is the entire point behind NS, to just have fun mate.
Very true. lol

Anyway, Njudung, as said in the TG's, I'm more than willing to help you get better. :) And, I know there's alotta people on NS that are willing to - just to bad most people who posted in here simply jumped on your shit.
The Philippiniada
18-12-2007, 14:36
http://sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php?nation=Njudung
Defence (0%): $0
Law and Order (0%): $0


ooc:declaring war to the world would be a bummer... :sniper::mp5::gundge:
hehehe
Shansekia
18-12-2007, 23:59
OOC: I was trying to be helpful...

IC:

We at the Commonwealth of Shansekia urge you to stand down and rescind your war declaration. Your small nation is at no odds ready to fight out some of the massive military giants out there. (In fact, our too) We wish you best of luck in raising your world standing and doing some good.

Good luck,
Minister Cyran Dagg of Foreign Affairs
Nistolonia
19-12-2007, 16:34
OOC:
Well, Njudung, since this is NationStates, there really isn't a hard and fast rule as to what "Earth" is. Some people play with real Earth, most don't worry about it. So, your nation, despite being "small" could have land that is equivalent to the size and climate of the north. Whether it really is Siberia and Upper Canada or something else is up to you, but the important thing is that you started out with it, rather then declaring war on the world to get it.
Now, I know you say that this is a game, supposed to be fun, blah blah blah, and that's true. But without the balance, as it were, of countries size and defense budget, wars would be impossible to roleplay well without really good RPers who just want to have fun. I don't know if I could do it. So if you have a relatively small defense budget, you'll have a small, reasonably trained and equipped army, or a larger, but poorly trained and equipped army, as opposed to some of the big nations here, who have defense budgets in the trillians. (The US has a defense budget of 9.5 billion, I have one of 25 trillion, some have more then that)
The game isn't fun with people going "I have 30,000 tanks called the M-602, and its like twice as good as the M1A2 Abrams, and they shoot mini-nukes..."
I'm a bit tired now, I hope that made sense.