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Hey, this is the new OOC thread for the current affairs in Cripistan. Please put all OOC chatter pertaining to this matter here.

Original Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543238), Second Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=544241)

Errikland, would you contribute to my little surprise special op thing? I know you've read the posts, but I want to make sure you can participate. I just started it to peek your interest, I won't take action until you allow me too per Character Gaming Mumbo Jumbo. :D

Anyways, yea, it might be interesting? Get both Orbath and you involved, and I could fully RP my Soviet Legion with a backstory.

Thank you Erik :).

Errikland, would you contribute to my little surprise special op thing? I know you've read the posts, but I want to make sure you can participate. I just started it to peek your interest, I won't take action until you allow me too per Character Gaming Mumbo Jumbo. :D

Anyways, yea, it might be interesting? Get both Orbath and you involved, and I could fully RP my Soviet Legion with a backstory.

What did you have in mind? My time will be limited tomorrow and the next day, but I am nigh free on Friday and I should have plenty of time on the weekend.

What exactly is happening? Cripistan keeps making new threads.

Thank you Erik :).

No problem. We've been needing one of these for some time.

EDIT: Now I don't have to worry about any more of these re-posts, as all such posts for both threads will go on this thread:

OOC: New maps, showing the districts of the colony: Blank (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Errikland/NS/Maps/cripistan_erkdetl_02.png), and Geographic (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Errikland/NS/Maps/cripistan_erkdetl_01.png).

This political organization is not purely based on population, though that certainly is a factor, if you look at the massive desert ones in comparison to the smaller river valley ones. Even if they vote to leave the Empire, they may wish to keep this organization, as the Errikan development--from infrastructure to various political organization--is based around it, and keeping it would allow them to effectively take advantage of that.

I intend to make a couple more, including information such as population density, Errikan settlement, and Errikan investment.

What exactly is happening? Cripistan keeps making new threads.

He had two, and we had a lot of OOC chatter, so I made this OOC one for the chatter in both of them. I think he had some other ones elsewhere, but they have been inactive long enough to not matter right now.

What did you have in mind? My time will be limited tomorrow and the next day, but I am nigh free on Friday and I should have plenty of time on the weekend.

Perhaps a long-based RP that would end in the foundation of an NAP? I would like to fully RP the characters, you would be able to, and I would be able to scare some people.

Plus we could go to the verge of war, and maybe it would end in the total cooperation of uniting Cripistan, or whatever you had in mind. Anyway, it would be up to you. I just want to officially enforce the Soviet Legion as a legitimate organization in RPing from now on.

I also have a heavy work load on me, I'm a bobcat driver in my recycling plant, so I don't have much time either. We can make one post a day, or how ever many we could manage. You see how much time I have, lol.

Perhaps a long-based RP that would end in the foundation of an NAP? I would like to fully RP the characters, you would be able to, and I would be able to scare some people.

Plus we could go to the verge of war, and maybe it would end in the total cooperation of uniting Cripistan, or whatever you had in mind. Anyway, it would be up to you. I just want to officially enforce the Soviet Legion as a legitimate organization in RPing from now on.

I also have a heavy work load on me, I'm a bobcat driver in my recycling plant, so I don't have much time either. We can make one post a day, or how ever many we could manage. You see how much time I have, lol.

That sounds very interesting, and I am always in need of character development, particularly in things that don't cease to exist (remembers Nuk). Count me in.

I can completely understand your time constraints, what with my rapidly approaching finals and other RL issues, so I will be quite understanding (especially being that I will require just as much understanding in return ;) ).
Besides, some wait will probably mean we can force ourselves to devote the proper level of time to each post, getting a well developed story.

That sounds very interesting, and I am always in need of character development, particularly in things that don't cease to exist (remembers Nuk). Count me in.

I can completely understand your time constraints, what with my rapidly approaching finals and other RL issues, so I will be quite understanding (especially being that I will require just as much understanding in return ;) ).
Besides, some wait will probably mean we can force ourselves to devote the proper level of time to each post, getting a well developed story.

And you will get that understanding. Thanks man.

Now, Orbath, post damnit!

Your wish is my command :p. I'm interested as well but I'm wondering what my role would be in such a thing?

Your wish is my command :p. I'm interested as well but I'm wondering what my role would be in such a thing?

Um, like, the guy who helps me kick my own ass? LOL!

Fair enough

Fair enough

Or the guy who gets in alliance with me after kicking my ass per my own foot kicking it the first time, you know? WE COULD CONTROL THE WORLD!

But yea, thats basically what you would do, and you would play a heavy part, I assure you.

What do I do now?

Thanks for making OOC thread. It really helps. BTW, anything you need me to do?

Sorry for not posting yet, i had to read what was going on in the other threads. Anyway, Orbath and Erikkland, would you like the census to start now, or at a later date?

Thanks for making OOC thread. It really helps. BTW, anything you need me to do?

No problem.

We're eventually going to need you to decide how the Cripistanis in Errikan Cripistan vote; we have arranged for there to be a vote, in due time, of these Cripistanis to decide if they want to leave the Empire or stay in it.

Btw, here are some new maps:
Population Density (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Errikland/NS/Maps/cripistan_erkdetl_03.png), by district. The darker the red, the denser the pop. Note that this does not necessarily accurately depict actual population density, as they may all be on the very corner of a district or otherwise spread unevenly; look to the geographic map to get ideas as to how they may be distributed.
Errikan Investment (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Errikland/NS/Maps/cripistan_erkdetl_04.png), by district. The darker the green, the more investment. Note that, like population density, this may not be thoroughly accurate with details, for the same reasons. Also, due to the very high level of investment, even the lighter districts have had a good amount.

Older maps available in an above post.

I might make a couple more, one probably being about Errikan settlement.

If any of this conflicts with your desires, Cripistan, it is your call.

Sorry for not posting yet, i had to read what was going on in the other threads. Anyway, Orbath and Erikkland, would you like the census to start now, or at a later date?

No problem; Anagonia and I were just discussing the same matter, only with ourselves.

Whatever is good for you.

I'm ready for the census whenever, the only other thing I've got going currently is my advance into the CRU territory. BTW Cripstan, whenever you get the chance, I understand you can be busy, can you reply to my attacks on the CRU.

Excellent maps BTW. Well as you guys came up with the idea of a census, ill do it whenever it is convenient for you and Orbath.

I'm ready for the census whenever, the only other thing I've got going currently is my advance into the CRU territory. BTW Cripstan, whenever you get the chance, I understand you can be busy, can you reply to my attacks on the CRU.

Ok, when Erikkland is ready, we'll start the census. Ill go make a post of the CRU event.

Excellent maps BTW. Well as you guys came up with the idea of a census, ill do it whenever it is convenient for you and Orbath.

Here is what we will ultimately need:
Total Number of People; this would be overall and, if you would be willing to, per district. If you want to do the per district numbers, then it should probably reflect the population density map; if you want, I can do the per district number based on your overall number.
Gender, Ethnic, and Religious Breakdown; this doesn't have to be too specific, it could just be like half men, half women, this percent that religion, this percent another one, and all Cripistani except like a dozen Maxtopians, or something like that. If you want to do a by district division as well, that would be great; if not, I would be happy to do it.
Any Other Useful Info; as the name suggests, just anything else you think to be important--political beliefs, favors who, dislikes who, whatever.

EDIT: I forgot to say that Urbs Cripistan (shown on the map as the tiniest district) is a very large city, so be sure to factor that in if you are going to do the district by district statistics. If not, then I will take care of it.

Here is what we will ultimately need:
Total Number of People; this would be overall and, if you would be willing to, per district. If you want to do the per district numbers, then it should probably reflect the population density map; if you want, I can do the per district number based on your overall number.
Gender, Ethnic, and Religious Breakdown; this doesn't have to be too specific, it could just be like half men, half women, this percent that religion, this percent another one, and all Cripistani except like a dozen Maxtopians, or something like that. If you want to do a by district division as well, that would be great; if not, I would be happy to do it.
Any Other Useful Info; as the name suggests, just anything else you think to be important--political beliefs, favors who, dislikes who, whatever.

EDIT: I forgot to say that Urbs Cripistan (shown on the map as the tiniest district) is a very large city, so be sure to factor that in if you are going to do the district by district statistics. If not, then I will take care of it.

Population- 160,200,000
Gender-90,500,000 Males 60,700,000 Females
70% of all people over the age of 18
Ethnic-
64% Arab
16% Caucasian
18% Hispanic
12% Black
Religion-47% Islamic
30% Christian
13% Baha'i Faith
7% Jewish
2% Catholic
1% Other
Other Info...
Average income
$34,000 Male
$26,700 Female

If you could do the breakdown by district, that would be great. Also for names, you can pick them. Since these people were divided before, they didn't really have names for where they lived.

Population- 160,200,000
Gender-90,500,000 Males 60,700,000 Females
70% of all people over the age of 18
Ethnic-
64% Arab
16% Caucasian
18% Hispanic
12% Black
Religion-47% Islamic
30% Christian
13% Baha'i Faith
7% Jewish
2% Catholic
1% Other
Other Info...
Average income
$34,000 Male
$26,700 Female

If you could do the breakdown by district, that would be great. Also for names, you can pick them. Since these people were divided before, they didn't really have names for where they lived.

Oh, just to be clear, as I now see I may have accidentally been misleading, these are the demographics for the whole of Errikan Cripistan (the area I occupy), not the whole of all Cripistan. I think you already did that, but I just want to be clear.

Oh, just to be clear, as I now see I may have accidentally been misleading, these are the demographics for the whole of Errikan Cripistan (the area I occupy), not the whole of all Cripistan. I think you already did that, but I just want to be clear.

I know the popluation seems to be a little much, but please consider that after the claims in the east, and the attacks on the CRU, people began to move westward. Then when Erikkland began investing in the region, people saw this as an oppurtunity.

I know the popluation seems to be a little much, but please consider that after the claims in the east, and the attacks on the CRU, people began to move westward. Then when Erikkland began investing in the region, people saw this as an oppurtunity.

Makes perfect sense.

Okay, ICly, this data is not yet compiled, as the guys are getting a census (to contain this very information) together right now (flexi-time). My leadership will need to have a meeting with your leadership right now to explain the matter, so we should go to the Cripistan Divided thread to do this.

I will divide up the data by region, this may take a couple days given my busy schedule, and put it all in the final census, provided you approve of it, which the government will release just prior to officially announcing the vote.

This work for everybody?

Makes perfect sense.

Okay, ICly, this data is not yet compiled, as the guys are getting a census (to contain this very information) together right now (flexi-time). My leadership will need to have a meeting with your leadership right now to explain the matter, so we should go to the Cripistan Divided thread to do this.

I will divide up the data by region, this may take a couple days given my busy schedule, and put it all in the final census, provided you approve of it, which the government will release just prior to officially announcing the vote.

This work for everybody?

It works for me. When you say meeting with "my leadership" which group do you mean? Khazel?

It works for me. When you say meeting with "my leadership" which group do you mean? Khazel?

Yup, and any other leaders of the Cripistanis in Errikan held territory.

i just read your C. Divided post, just post your people somehow contacting Khazel. That way he doesnt just magically know that he is invited.

i just read your C. Divided post, just post your people somehow contacting Khazel. That way he doesnt just magically know that he is invited.

Oh, that would make sense. :p

EDIT: Post edited.

This sounds really in depth and thats great, works perfectly for me. I have a few more questions for Cripistan,

What type of weapons did your government use before they were overthrown, ie, Soviet, American and are they in the hands of most of the rebels?

I ask because I'm trying to build each state its own military, and I need to know what they would already have available and what might turn up in future expansion throughout Cripistan.

This sounds really in depth and thats great, works perfectly for me. I have a few more questions for Cripistan,

What type of weapons did your government use before they were overthrown, ie, Soviet, American and are they in the hands of most of the rebels?

I ask because I'm trying to build each state its own military, and I need to know what they would already have available and what might turn up in future expansion throughout Cripistan.

They used earlier modeled Soviet weapons, also many rebels still have these wepons. The states i created( C. cripistan, CRU) were supplied with newer weapons.

My earlier comments about availability will not be so accurate--I will, in fact, be swamped this weekend, what with a book to read, a research assignment to conduct, and plenty of finals to study for, so I will have little time for RPing.

My earlier comments about availability will not be so accurate--I will, in fact, be swamped this weekend, what with a book to read, a research assignment to conduct, and plenty of finals to study for, so I will have little time for RPing.

Thats sucks. And I thought high school was bad. Maybe being a freshman is a good thing.

The other two nations with claims on the map, the dark greenish color and the bright green color on the southern part of the map, are they still involved in this or can we assume their claims no longer exist?

Mayhap; I am unable to post due to my lack of knowledge over what has recently happened.

The other two nations with claims on the map, the dark greenish color and the bright green color on the southern part of the map, are they still involved in this or can we assume their claims no longer exist?

I believe the darkish green is Erikkland, but the light green is Osteria, who hasn't posted in over a month. So, i think we can asssume the claim no longer exists.

Mayhap; I am unable to post due to my lack of knowledge over what has recently happened.

Ah, well I guess I'll fill you in as best I can. Basically, things continued on as normal until Cripistan posted Neighbors Collide, a thread which focused on two rebel groups in the center of Cripistan locked in fighting. Two more nations became involved, Erikland, who colonized an area to the south and Greston, who currently supports the ''evil'' group, the CRU. His forces are unable to return home or be resupplied due to the blockade so have destroyed anything linking them to Greston and fight as the CRU. I have launched an assault into the CRU territory. If you have any more questions, please ask.

Oh and Orbath didn't cut the radio lines quik enough so my original forces are coming back. And the force currently there are actually CRU citizens. Born as Grestonians, but made a few cahnges so they could fight without having their homeland screwed.

Oh and Orbath didn't cut the radio lines quik enough so my original forces are coming back. And the force currently there are actually CRU citizens. Born as Grestonians, but made a few cahnges so they could fight without having their homeland screwed.

Good thinking. Also, the CRU recognizes the ex- Grestonians as citizens, so they are official citizens.(under CRU standards.)

Oh and Orbath didn't cut the radio lines quik enough so my original forces are coming back. And the force currently there are actually CRU citizens. Born as Grestonians, but made a few cahnges so they could fight without having their homeland screwed.

Radio lines? I'm not sure what you speak of. Also, where exactly are the rest of the troops, you RP'd them leaving and they wouldn't be able to get back through the blockade.

They are currently passing Preft's claim. They will be back to attack the blockade and save the CRU. God willing of course. And no that wasn't anti-semitic. If you read the thread for the ball I am hosting you would understand.

K gotcha. saw the thread and I get what you mean lol.... Merry Christmas.

Edit - Can you reply in Neighbors Collide?

And a Happy New Year.

Hey, sorry for the delays, but I've had finals *shoots self*

I'm not yet done, but I have a moment to breathe.

Here (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Errikland/NS/Maps/cripistan_erkdetl_dnum.png) is the map w/numbered districts, so as to make these numbers make sense. I have not yet given them names, but I have assigned populations (admittedly, I expected like ten percent of the total population we got, XD).

D# Population
1: 35,000,000
2: 7,240,040
3: 4,411,000
4: 4,509,000
5: 4,410,000
6: 4,280,000
7: 6,834,000
8: 6,829,720
9: 4,120,000
10: 6,834,440
11: 6,832,000
12: 6,859,800
13: 4,401,000
14: 4,120,000
15: 4,000,000
16: 4,100,000
17: 4,081,000
18: 3,809,000
19: 4,010,000
20: 3,800,000
21: 3,700,000
22: 3,730,000
23: 1,300,000
24: 1,310,000
25: 4,590,000
26: 4,362,000
27: 4,367,000
28: 3,770,000
29: 1,230,000
30: 1,160,000
All: 160,000,000

When do you want the vote to be, Cripistan? 'Cause we'll probably have to build up to it a little.

I'll do the vote whenever. Also, I haven't done anything like this before. So im not sure how to start, or lead up to it.

I'll do the vote whenever. Also, I haven't done anything like this before. So im not sure how to start, or lead up to it.

We should probably just set an IC date (very relative, like "one week from now," not "the first Tuesday of November," so as to fit into flexi-time comfortably), then have a little publicity buildup, maybe some people's reactions, then a formal vote, by district, the results of which will be your decision.

I have an idea. We can create a poll. We'll add the backround ifo., and everything. That way whatever happens, there won't be any accusations of favoritism. what do you think? Also ill set up an end date. That way it doesn't go on forever.

I have an idea. We can create a poll. We'll add the backround ifo., and everything. That way whatever happens, there won't be any accusations of favoritism. what do you think? Also ill set up an end date. That way it doesn't go on forever.

If it is a poll, won't it be the opinion of the international community, not the Cripistani people? After all, they are from you; really, I think that it should be your decision. Just like most nations' public opinion is decided by the nation's RL controller.

If it is a poll, won't it be the opinion of the international community, not the Cripistani people? After all, they are from you; really, I think that it should be your decision. Just like most nations' public opinion is decided by the nation's RL controller.

Yea, true. I just wasn't sure if you thought a poll would be cool, just for the interesting aspect of it.

As for your fears of accusations of favoritism, if your citizens vote in favor of Erikland, I'm not going to jump up and scream ''Thats not fair!''. The census was brought on by my governments IC views. OOCly, I can see Erik has put quite a bit of effort into this, is a great Rper and I would actually like for the vote to swing his way.

Yea, true. I just wasn't sure if you thought a poll would be cool, just for the interesting aspect of it.

Perhaps it would be good to have a seperate election thread, once the election officially gets going, and have a poll that would gather international opinion, but not be binding in any way. What do you think?

As for your fears of accusations of favoritism, if your citizens vote in favor of Erikland, I'm not going to jump up and scream ''Thats not fair!''. The census was brought on by my governments IC views. OOCly, I can see Erik has put quite a bit of effort into this, is a great Rper and I would actually like for the vote to swing his way.

Alright. I just wanted to make it fair. But if neither of you will be upset, thats great.

So, what do you both want to do for the vote? Have a seperate thread, do it here, or one of the other current threads?

A seperate thread with a poll to allow for international opinion but no actual bearing on the vote. I'd also recommend that we close this to anymore people. Also, can you post in Neighbors Collide?

I would really recommend keeping this to one thread...

EDIT: Woo! 1337 posts!

As for your fears of accusations of favoritism, if your citizens vote in favor of Erikland, I'm not going to jump up and scream ''Thats not fair!''. The census was brought on by my governments IC views. OOCly, I can see Erik has put quite a bit of effort into this, is a great Rper and I would actually like for the vote to swing his way.

Aw, thanx. I'm blushing.

Actually, I'm not a girl. But you get the point.

Alright. I just wanted to make it fair. But if neither of you will be upset, thats great.

So, what do you both want to do for the vote? Have a seperate thread, do it here, or one of the other current threads?

A seperate thread with a poll to allow for international opinion but no actual bearing on the vote. I'd also recommend that we close this to anymore people. Also, can you post in Neighbors Collide?

I would really recommend keeping this to one thread...

EDIT: Woo! 1337 posts!

I personally think it would be best to make a separate "election" thread, which can easily be connected through this OOC thread (I can infinitely edit the first post, linking whatever is necessary; muahahaha and all that).

Congrats on the leetness.

Um, can Cripistan and Greston reply in Neighbors Collide.

Hey Guy's, it's me!

Yea, I've been working eleven and ten hour days recently and I haven't had enough time to post or update my NS, now I have some time, just a bit.

So, can someone send me a telegram or post here on an update to the situation so far? I'd like to get back into the game.

Thanks a bunch! IRL just kept me away for a while!

Sorry to butt in but since this does have somewhat to do with the rp, Crip are you going to do anything with Kuur Island anymore? I last remeber your goverment was still pissed at me that i killed all your troops on the island though i havent kept up with your current rp so I don't know if that still stands or not.

Sorry to butt in but since this does have somewhat to do with the rp, Crip are you going to do anything with Kuur Island anymore? I last remeber your goverment was still pissed at me that i killed all your troops on the island though i havent kept up with your current rp so I don't know if that still stands or not.

Yea, thats over with. If you have an idea for a thread, ill RP, but after that whole thing, new states have been formed, and all the old leaders are gone. So they really dont have anything to do with Kuur.

Hey Guy's, it's me!

Yea, I've been working eleven and ten hour days recently and I haven't had enough time to post or update my NS, now I have some time, just a bit.

So, can someone send me a telegram or post here on an update to the situation so far? I'd like to get back into the game.

Thanks a bunch! IRL just kept me away for a while!

Hi!

Well, the election that we arranged to have is going to happen, though there is no solid date yet, and there may be a thread w/a poll to gather international opinion. Not much has gone down on that subject, though I have the census data (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13306690&postcount=46).

I have not, however, closely followed the stuff in Neighbors Collide, so you will have to get that information from someone else.

Btw, merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas and happy new year!

Yea, and, I won't be posting much. Holiday work at the plant. Sorry guy's! Please leave my territory alone...

....or I might make two-page posts about Armageddon! lol.

bump

BTW Merry Christmas, and Happy Holidays!

Better late than never, eh?

Hey, happy New Year!
Ah, that was actually a good year. Hope this one turns out as well (my getting into college and one of my favorite candidates winning the presidential election come to mind as possible pluses).

So we want to go forward with the election (and that other thing, once Anagonia is free again)?

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Yea...

Dude, we should create a forum for ourselves, because right now were mainly just talking a lot! Lol.

I second that notion. We should move onto invisionfree.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Yea...

Dude, we should create a forum for ourselves, because right now were mainly just talking a lot! Lol.

I second that notion. We should move onto invisionfree.

To be honest, the thought has never crossed my mind. Would it just be a 'Cripistani Affairs' forum?

OOC: Good idea I guess, but would it be mainly for OOC or would we actually use the forum for IC?

Honestly, I don't really see the need; this is exactly the sort of thing that the forums are for, role playing the nations and coordination of said role play. Additionally, I am unclear as to the cannoninity of such offsite RPs.

Yea, just thought I throw it out there.

OOC: So is everyone back now? I mean, back to making IC posts? Oh and when are we going to get the results of this census?

Orbath, I'm gonna leave my territories to you. I don't have enough time to rp here anymore, so basically finish the job. Lol.

Anyways, this comment submits and confirms that all Anagonian assets have now left Cripistan for home.

The State of Guardia is an independent country, and will still have the protection of Anagonia.

Thanks for the good time guy's!

OOC: A new President has been elected and my nations policies are shifting. My nation is going to become much more focused on defense. Rather than war, I'm going to be doing quite a bit of economic expansion and diplomacy. Because of this, my new President has opted to remove all troops from Cripistan ASAP. He doesn't want to just leave out of the blue, so I'd be interested in a discussion between an Erik rep, a rep from each state, reps from several of the rebel groups and maybe a few reps from outside. If your interested in being a part of this, let me know.

OOC: A new President has been elected and my nations policies are shifting. My nation is going to become much more focused on defense. Rather than war, I'm going to be doing quite a bit of economic expansion and diplomacy. Because of this, my new President has opted to remove all troops from Cripistan ASAP. He doesn't want to just leave out of the blue, so I'd be interested in a discussion between an Erik rep, a rep from each state, reps from several of the rebel groups and maybe a few reps from outside. If your interested in being a part of this, let me know.

Yeah, interested.

I pronounce this set of RPs to be dead.

I pronounce this set of RPs to be dead.

Oh noes. OH NOES!

I pronounce this set of RPs to be dead.

I actually think Cripistan will come back, he went away for a few days to a week not that long back and came back. Anyway, I'm going to create an IC thread for our discussions and if he doesn't show, I guess we will still have to decide how things worked out. I'll post a linky in a few.

Linky http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13423177#post13423177

Sorry, guys, i had my computer fixed, and didn't have threads saved to favorites anymore. So where are we?

We are in the thread above your post. Btw, perhaps we could arrange the election issue for Errikan Cripistan, as it has been a while (in no small part due to my own frequently inability to get on in a timely manner, admittedly).

Good to have you back.