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Plans for Expansion (OPEN)

Acalia
09-12-2007, 04:51
Acalian Imperial Ministry of Foreign Affairs
International Transmission



By order of His Imperial Excellency, Gaius Romar, the Acalian Empire is planning to expand its territory to the south-west area of its immediate surrounding region. The Acalian Imperial Government expresses a deep desire to add the cities of Irada, and Irshon to its dominion. And later the rest of the southern 'Free' cities.

Because the Empire wishes to remain on good terms with all sovereign nations, the Imperial Government is willing to hear any and all objections toward this move for expansion.

The targeted cities are circled in red on the attached map:

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All nations that aid the Acalian Empire in its goal of expansion will be granted exclusive economic rights in the Empire. These include but are not limited to: Free Trade, Access to Private Harbors, and Tax Cuts by the government when moving businesses to Imperial Cities.

Once military operations commence, they will be coordinated through the Acalian military base of Drahone near the city of Irada. After these two cities have been added to the dominion, all occupants of these cities will be treated as first class citizens. Not as prisoners of war. Those who resist will be detained and tried for insurrection of the Imperial Government. A magistrate will be selected from the loyal population of the city to govern it according to Acalian Imperial Law. The culture and society of these two cities are very similar to our own as they were once part of the much larger Sercaan Empire (as Acalia was). The only significant change will be the introduction of Patriarchal Church and its institutions. The people of the city may worship as they please, the implementation of the Patriarchal Church is not an attempt to replace local religious beliefs in any way, shape, form, or fashion.


Imperial Foreign Minister,
Aeteius Marcus
Errikland
09-12-2007, 04:58
To: the Acalian Empire
From: The Errikan Empire

Greetings.

While we Errikans certainly do not object to imperialism as a whole, we are curious about certain aspects of your own, which your clearing up could be quite helpful.

What are you to do with the local populations? Are those who do not resist to be given citizenship, or some other sort of legal status? How are you to treat all who do resist?
Are you to fully centralize power, or leave some localized power in these areas?
Are you to introduce your own systems and culture forcefully, not introduce them at all, or something in between?
Any other information which you think others should know?
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:03
To: the Acalian Empire
From: The Errikan Empire

Greetings.

While we Errikans certainly do not object to imperialism as a whole, we are curious about certain aspects of your own, which your clearing up could be quite helpful.

What are you to do with the local populations? Are those who do not resist to be given citizenship, or some other sort of legal status? How are you to treat all who do resist?
Are you to fully centralize power, or leave some localized power in these areas?
Are you to introduce your own systems and culture forcefully, not introduce them at all, or something in between?
Any other information which you think others should know?

OOC: I edited the first post to address what you asked.
Cookesland
09-12-2007, 05:05
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Official Diplomatic Communiqué

Greetings to the Acalian Empire, we wish to know the answer to one question. What say the people of the Free Cities concerning this?


Best Wishes,
Steven J. Andolor
Steven J. Andolor
Secretary of State
The United States of Cookesland
Kirav
09-12-2007, 05:06
The Soveriegn Kiravian Colonial Empire is willing to support Acailia in its expansion. Will Acailian settlers be sent in to demographically recreate a colony of the metropole, or will this expansion be a mere military occupation for exploit imperialism?
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:10
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Official Diplomatic Communiqué

Greetings to the Acalian Empire, we wish to know the answer to one question. What say the people of the Free Cities concerning this?


Best Wishes,
Steven J. Andolor
Steven J. Andolor
Secretary of State
The United States of Cookesland

Acalian Imperial Ministry of Foreign Affairs


TO: The United States of Cookesland

The wishes of the population in Irada and Irshan are irrelevent at this point in time. The Imperial Government of the Empire wishes to add these two cities to the Dominion of Acalia, this is all that matters right now. It is Emperor Romar's belief that life will be better for them under Acalian rule.

Imperial Foreign Minister,
Aeteius Marcus
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:12
The Soveriegn Kiravian Colonial Empire is willing to support Acailia in its expansion. Will Acailian settlers be sent in to demographically recreate a colony of the metropole, or will this expansion be a mere military occupation for exploit imperialism?

TO: The Sovereign Kiravian Colonial Empire,

The expansion of the Acalian Empire to include these two cities is simply political and economic. We are adding these two cities to the Empire for their own well being as well as the well being of Acalia.

Imperial Foreign Minister,
Aeteius Marcus
Kirav
09-12-2007, 05:14
TO: The Sovereign Kiravian Colonial Empire,

The expansion of the Acalian Empire to include these two cities is simply political and economic. We are adding these two cities to the Empire for their own well being as well as the well being of Acalia.

Imperial Foreign Minister,
Aeteius Marcus

So, you won't be sending in settlers?
Cookesland
09-12-2007, 05:15
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Official Diplomatic Communiqué

How can one who does not live with them or even near the Free Cities claim to know what's in their best interests without consulting them? We must oppose any further expansion until the desires of the populi of the two cities is taken into account.

Best Wishes,
Steven J. Andolor
Steven J. Andolor
Secretary of State
The United States of Cookesland
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:15
So, you won't be sending in settlers?

No. It won't be necessary.
Kirav
09-12-2007, 05:18
Ah. Understood. Our methods of colonialism/imperialism usually involve settlement, but we do understand that some things are best left the way they are.

Our offer of assistance, however, is still up for the taking. What kind of help would you require?
Livria
09-12-2007, 05:19
Urcea Defence Supplies Corporation would like to enquire,if the Acalian Government needs any kind of military equipment for the expansion.

Thank you,

The U.D.S.C Management.
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:20
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Official Diplomatic Communiqué

How can one who does not live with them or even near the Free Cities claim to know what's in their best interests without consulting them? We must oppose any further expansion until the desires of the populi of the two cities is taken into account.

Best Wishes,
Steven J. Andolor
Steven J. Andolor
Secretary of State
The United States of Cookesland

The Acalian Imperial Foreign Ministry

TO: The United States of Cookesland,

The Acalian Empire will not have its desires hindered by the whining of population of two poverty stricken cities. The Iradian and Irshonite people will be better off under the yoke of Acalian Imperial Rule, if it can be called that. The only thing that changes for them politically is that their loss of the right to wage war on the other 'Free' cities. The Imperial Magistrate that will govern the cities will be elected by the very people of the cities with out Acalian interference.

Imperial Foreign Minister,
Aeteius Marcus
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:21
Ah. Understood. Our methods of colonialism/imperialism usually involve settlement, but we do understand that some things are best left the way they are.

Our offer of assistance, however, is still up for the taking. What kind of help would you require?

Initial occupation and pacification will be difficult, so the Acalian Empire could use Kiravian help in that matter.
Cookesland
09-12-2007, 05:22
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Official Diplomatic Communiqué

Still, will will oppose this action and defend the cities if need be until their opinion is taken into consideration. Have a nice day!

Best Wishes,
Steven J. Andolor
Steven J. Andolor
Secretary of State
The United States of Cookesland
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:22
Urcea Defence Supplies Corporation would like to enquire,if the Acalian Government needs any kind of military equipment for the expansion.

Thank you,

The U.D.S.C Management.

The Acalian Government need guns. Our military is poorly under-equipped for a potentially extended occupation of two large cities.

Imperial Foreign Minister,
Aeteius Marcus
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:24
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Official Diplomatic Communiqué

Still, will will oppose this action and defend the cities if need be until their opinion is taken into consideration. Have a nice day!

Best Wishes,
Steven J. Andolor
Steven J. Andolor
Secretary of State
The United States of Cookesland

::::INFORMAL LETTER TO STEVEN J. ANDOLOR::::
::::FROM THE DESK OF EMPEROR ROMAR::::

So be it.
Kirav
09-12-2007, 05:25
Indeed. Would 5,000 Imperial Urban Combat troops be sufficient?

By the way, could we have some information on these cities?

What are their populations?
WHat language do they speak?
What climate are they located in?
How are they defended?
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:30
Indeed. Would 5,000 Imperial Urban Combat troops be sufficient?

By the way, could we have some information on these cities?

What are their populations?
WHat language do they speak?
What climate are they located in?
How are they defended?

Most likely, but would be at all possible to place another 1000 troops in reserve at Drahone Military Base?

Irada has a population of around 398,000, and Irshon hovers around 450,000 to 500,000. Nearly a million people all together.

The language spoken is Sercaanian, from which Acalian is derived from. (Both languages are very similar to english.)

The climate is warm and humid during the summer, with mild winters.

They are defended only by city militia's.
Errikland
09-12-2007, 05:32
OOC: I edited the first post to address what you asked.

OOC: Cool.

No. It [settlement] won't be necessary.

OOC: There is no real IC way for my nation to know about this to comment on it, but it sorta begs it so I will add a little OOC commentary and go from there.

You can, of course, over time, win the hearts and minds of the local peoples and generally assimilate them into your people over a period of time. However, if they do not become fully part of your people, there is always the threat that somewhere down the line another generation will identify with themselves as a group and perhaps even get their own nationalist sentiment, which could spell costly problems. The more sure deal is settling your own people, already culturally and historically parts of your nation, there. They don't necessarily even have to ultimately replace the locals, as their settlement there, along with your administration, is more likely to assimilate them effectively.

Now this is when, were this IC, I would be listing IC examples of the Errikans doing such, but you get the point.
Livria
09-12-2007, 05:35
The Acalian Government need guns. Our military is poorly under-equipped for a potentially extended occupation of two large cities.

Imperial Foreign Minister,
Aeteius Marcus

See here what you need,and after that contact us.

Storefront
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13274174&posted=1#post13274174)
We will see what we can do.

Thank you,

The U.D.S.C Management.
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:35
OOC: Cool.



OOC: There is no real IC way for my nation to know about this to comment on it, but it sorta begs it so I will add a little OOC commentary and go from there.

You can, of course, over time, win the hearts and minds of the local peoples and generally assimilate them into your people over a period of time. However, if they do not become fully part of your people, there is always the threat that somewhere down the line another generation will identify with themselves as a group and perhaps even get their own nationalist sentiment, which could spell costly problems. The more sure deal is settling your own people, already culturally and historically parts of your nation, there. They don't necessarily even have to ultimately replace the locals, as their settlement there, along with your administration, is more likely to assimilate them effectively.

Now this is when, were this IC, I would be listing IC examples of the Errikans doing such, but you get the point.

OOC: There are reasons behind the Emperor's wish to expand so suddenly without taking the less risky path (as you described it) that have yet to be revealed. When this thing kicks off, all will be explained.
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:36
See here what you need,and after that contact us.

Storefront
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13274174&posted=1#post13274174)
We will see what we can do.

Thank you,

The U.D.S.C Management.

We will get back to you.
Kirav
09-12-2007, 05:36
Most likely, but would be at all possible to place another 1000 troops in reserve at Drahone Military Base?

Irada has a population of around 398,000, and Irshan hovers around 450,000 to 500,000. Nearly a million people all together.

The language spoken is Sercaanian, from which Acalian is derived from. (Both languages are very similar to english.)

The climate is warm and humid during the summer, with mild winters.

They are defended only by city militia's.

All seems in order. Our troops can function well enough in such a climate, although the summers may be a bit strenuous. We will consider placing the additional 1,000 men in Drahone.

To Errikland:

A settler imperialist! We are honoured to make contact with your empire. How go affairs in your colonies?
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:41
All seems in order. Our troops can function well enough in such a climate, although the summers may be a bit strenuous. We will consider placing the additional 1,000 men in Drahone.

To Errikland:

A settler imperialist! We are honoured to make contact with your empire. How go affairs in your colonies?

Alright. Feel free to RP your troops arrival.

They will be arriving at Drahone Base to be directed towards Irada. The base is very similar to Fort Clayton, Panama.
Errikland
09-12-2007, 05:43
[snip]
To Errikland:

A settler imperialist! We are honoured to make contact with your empire. How go affairs in your colonies?

Quite well! There has been little to no notable civil discontent, which is to be expected given our policy of extending our society, our people, rather than just our borders. This has not worked absolutely, our African territory being less than optimal for Errikan settlement, given its very tropical nature, but on the whole we are quite satisfied.

We take it that you too have such an empire?

EDIT:
OOC: Acalia, you wouldn't happen to have a map, would you? I am strongly considering aiding you, especially given the bonuses.
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:48
Quite well! There has been little to no notable civil discontent, which is to be expected given our policy of extending our society, our people, rather than just our borders. This has not worked absolutely, our African territory being less than optimal for Errikan settlement, given its very tropical nature, but on the whole we are quite satisfied.

We take it that you too have such an empire?

EDIT:
OOC: Acalia, you wouldn't happen to have a map, would you? I am strongly considering aiding you, especially given the bonuses.


The Map is in the first post, click on " ::::CLASSIFIED:::: ".
Alexandrian Ptolemais
09-12-2007, 05:49
To whom it may concern,

The Empire of Alexandrian Ptolemais is indifferent to the intentions of Acalia. We would like to offer humanitarian aid to the people of the area that are going to be invaded if this is necessary

Sincerely,

The Prime Ministers Office
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:50
To whom it may concern,

The Empire of Alexandrian Ptolemais is indifferent to the intentions of Acalia. We would like to offer humanitarian aid to the people of the area that are going to be invaded if this is necessary

Sincerely,

The Prime Ministers Office


To: The government of Alexandrian Ptolemais,

Our invasion is not malicious. The Acalian government does not wish to oppress the population of the cities. Merely intergrate them into the larger political structure that is the Acalian Empire.

Imperial Foreign Minister,
Aeteius Marcus
Livria
09-12-2007, 05:53
We will get back to you.

We know you will..

The U.D.S.C Management.
Errikland
09-12-2007, 05:55
The Map is in the first post, click on " ::::CLASSIFIED:::: ".

OOC: Oh, yes, of course, I knew that! I was just testing you! :D
Acalia
09-12-2007, 05:55
OOC: Oh, yes, of course, I knew that! I was just testing you! :D

I totally believe you, man. ;)

This shall be continued tomorrow.
Errikland
09-12-2007, 17:48
SIC:

The Errikan Empire henceforth endorses your expansion. We would like to begin shipping you fuel and foodstuffs at bottom-of-the-barrel prices, and can supply you with the small arms and munitions of your choice. Should you so require, we can also give you heavier support, in the form of logistical transport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Expanded_Mobility_Tactical_Truck).
Livria
09-12-2007, 17:53
SIC:

The Errikan Empire henceforth endorses your expansion. We would like to begin shipping you fuel and foodstuffs at bottom-of-the-barrel prices, and can supply you with the small arms and munitions of your choice.

OOC:Thats our job.
Errikland
09-12-2007, 17:59
OOC:Thats our job.



OOC: Sorry, I was just saying that I would give, rather than sell, him some, should his invasion require it. It was not my intention to undercut you, and I assure you that this is just a short term thing (for the invasion itself).
Livria
09-12-2007, 18:06
OOC: Sorry, I was just saying that I would give, rather than sell, him some, should his invasion require it. It was not my intention to undercut you, and I assure you that this is just a short term thing (for the invasion itself).

OOC:Ok then,no problem.
Errikland
10-12-2007, 01:34
OOC: To answer your question in your IC thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=544938), Acalia, yes, we are still in, but we are awaiting your confirmation that you want us to begin supplying you as described above, as well as a definition of what sort of small arms you wish for us to supply to you (it wouldn't do to have all different sorts of weapons; the logistics would be a nightmare).
Kirav
10-12-2007, 01:43
Quite well! There has been little to no notable civil discontent, which is to be expected given our policy of extending our society, our people, rather than just our borders. This has not worked absolutely, our African territory being less than optimal for Errikan settlement, given its very tropical nature, but on the whole we are quite satisfied.

We take it that you too have such an empire?

EDIT:
OOC: Acalia, you wouldn't happen to have a map, would you? I am strongly considering aiding you, especially given the bonuses.

Indeed we do. And we too are ill-suited to the tropics.
Errikland
10-12-2007, 02:01
Indeed we do. And we too are ill-suited to the tropics.

It would seem that this is not an uncommon problem for temperate imperialists.

OOC: I am, at this point, assuming that Acalia is accepting my aid, being that he has no reason to turn it down, and going ahead and shipping. I still require him to say what sort of small arms he requires, though.
Kirav
10-12-2007, 02:20
It would seem that this is not an uncommon problem for temperate imperialists.

OOC: I am, at this point, assuming that Acalia is accepting my aid, being that he has no reason to turn it down, and going ahead and shipping. I still require him to say what sort of small arms he requires, though.

Quite so. Most of our colonies range from Mediterranean to Subarctic in terms of climate, although we do have several small polar colonies, most notably Kiravian Antarctica. We deal with the cold much better than the heat.
Shazbotdom
10-12-2007, 03:10
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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
While we do not feel that this is a nessicary step in the expansion of your nation, we will take no actions against your nation until we feel that these people are being abused. This abuse will consist of anything that we feel is damaging to their physical, emotional and spiritual well being. If we feel that these three main well beings are being abused in any way, you can expect the intervention of the Shazbotdom Marine Corps and the Shazbotdom Imperial Navy.
TheAlexanderianSkies
11-12-2007, 01:37
Alexanderian Skies Department of Foreign Affairs

Some of my trusted contacts in your area has informed me that the balance of power in your region is about to be upset by your recently planned invasion to city states to the south of your border. While we think it is noble of you to try to impose a better life on the peoples of this land we must be sympathetic to the wills of its people. Having been an occupied city state at one time ourselves we know the trials of the small free cities you wish to invade. As of now our Global Expeditionary Force is on alert to move into the region at the first signs of abuse of its people. In the event of the above-stated abuse our armies will deploy to the aid of Cookesland and the people of the free city states of Irada and Irshon.

Luke Manning
Head of Foreign Affairs