NationStates Jolt Archive


The Roman Empire Enters Imperial Age

Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 08:58
As the Roman People gain power and authority in the world, and steadily approach a population of 1 billion and beyond, it is made evident to the Emporer of Rome that the Empire gains strength and might. Through the self determination of the Roman People, the same People rise to the ranks of a Super Power.

On account of this, therefore, the Roman Emporer looks at a map of the world and sees primarily places which do not belong to the Empire. Therefore, the Roman People extends to all nations, especially new nations, the option to subjugate themselves to Her authority as a Vassal State.

The Vassal shall gain protection from invasion and the military backing of the Roman Empire, whose military might at this point is quite extensive. Oh yeah, and I won't invade you.

In turn...


The Vassal acknowledges the Roman Emporer as supreme sovereign.
The Vassal relinquishes the right to declare war.
The Vassal submits Itself to Roman Law.
The Vassal permits the Roman Empire to house troops within Its borders.
The Vassal permits the Roman Empire to establish military bases within Its borders.
The Vassal shall commit 20 percent of Its military might to the whim of the Roman Emporer
If the Roman Empire is attacked, the Vassal shall completely commit Its military might to the defense of the Roman Emporer.
The Vassal shall declare the Catholic Faith to be the Official State religion within Its borders.
The Vassal shall move to the region Rome and Her Vassals (The Pass is Rome)
Central Prestonia
08-12-2007, 09:34
OOC: It's generally unwise to give passwords to regions out in a PUBLIC FORUM. Just thought you might like to know.

IC:

Official Prestonian Communique

How utterly ridiculous. The nation of Gens Romae is one which cannot stand without aid from the gaggle of idiots known as the Corporate Alliance, and yet expects that newly formed nations will flock to her protection. I remind the Emperor that three years ago his nation was caught with it's pants down in a joint Presto-Aurum Doman invasion, and were it not for a treaty negotiated by it's master the Griffencrest Corporation, Rome would be a Prestonian colony. I highly suggest you drop your naive intentions of gaining an empire without a fight, and go about imperialism the normal way. Of course, if the Emperor is too afraid of a repeat of his last war, that is understandable.

To the younger nations of the world, I say this. Do not buy into the Roman offer of protection, for it is little more than an excuse for the dogs of Rome and the Corporate Alliance to rape and exploit the resources of a developing nation while returning nothing.

With Utmost Contempt for the Roman Scum,
HM King Steven I, By the Grace of God and Constitution King of Prestonia
Questers
08-12-2007, 12:37
[OOC: Who the fuck would become a vassal of a 1 billion nation which offers no advantages whatsoever?]
Carbandia
08-12-2007, 13:00
Yawn, yet another small nation with delusions of grandeur. Go back to playing in your sand box.
-Unsigned
Allanea
08-12-2007, 13:04
[LIST]
The Vassal acknowledges the Roman Emporer as supreme sovereign.



As the former Emperor of Greater Prussia, Alexander Kirillovich Kazansky refuses to become a vassal of a nation where people cannot properly spell.
Lyras
08-12-2007, 13:14
Oh yeah, and I won't invade you.

*laughs*

Bring it.
Aleos
08-12-2007, 14:08
Aleos. Central Command.

The underground city was unusually silent as all but the essential equipments were turned off for maintenance operations. The dim light of the illumination system revealed empty streets and even the usually crowded turbo lifts were waiting for users.

But appearances can be deceiving. In the office of the High Commander, Braca was examining together with his foreign affairs officer the communique of a nation claiming the name of the Roman Empire.

"The conditions are good," the voice of his officer permeated the silence.

"Yes, they are," Braca impassively replied without lifting his eyes from the document.

"Then I shall put forth a reply."

"Do so."

===

Official Statement.

Our nation has received the manifesto emitted by the Emperor of Gens Romae and has determined that it is in agreement with the spirit and terms of the treaty. We however like to point out that a few mistakes were made in the editing but we were quick in correcting them. Therefore we send you the proper version of the treaty.


* The nation of Gens Romae acknowledges the Aleosite Supreme Commander as supreme sovereign.
* The Vassal (Gens Romae) relinquishes the right to declare war.
* The Vassal submits Itself to Peacekeeper Law.
* The Vassal permits Aleos to house troops within Its borders.
* The Vassal permits the Peacekeepers to establish military bases within Its borders.
* The Vassal shall commit 20 percent of Its military might to the whim of the Supreme Commander.
* If Aleos is attacked, the Vassal shall completely commit Its military might to the defence of the Peacekeepers.
Aequatio
08-12-2007, 15:43
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/aequatio.jpg

Official Statement from the Aequatian Republic State Department

The pathetic Roman theocracy your delusional emperor has fabricated for himself has absolutely no merit, power or authority within the international ring. This attempt at bloodless imperialism through fear of coercion is little more than a mask for your nation's true weakness compared to many before you who have failed miserably in the same ventures. To think that any nation would voluntarily subjugate itself to another, especially one who has not even reached a billion yet at this time, is asinine.

As your nation has well-overstepped its own authority, the Aequatian Republic feels obligated to showcase to your emperor and his parasitic citizenry what true imperialism looks and feels like compared to the pitiful existence they live now. However, we are also feeling merciful, against our best judgment, and offer this one reservation: Abandon your wishful thinking of any imperialist dreams now and you will go unpunished. Refusing to accept that simple option will surely be the last, foolish choice your emperor makes before the entirety of your nation is cleansed by punitive fires.

"Oh yeah, and I won't invade you."

We wish we could keep the same promise.

Signed,

Sacha Novoselic,
Secretary of State
Uiri
08-12-2007, 17:22
The North Parliamentary Republic of Uiri will agree to these terms:


Uiri permits the Roman Empire to house troops within its borders.
Uiri permits the Roman Empire to use military bases within its borders.
If the Roman Empire is attacked, Uiri shall commit 20% of its military might to the defense of the Roman Empire.


The Catholic faith is de facto state religion.
Uiri shall remain sovereign
Uiri shall keep the right to declare war.


Uiri expects Gens Romae to commit to these terms:


The Roman Empire permits Uiri to house troops within its borders.
The Roman Empire [ermits Uiri to use military bases within its borders
If Uiri is attacked, the Roman Empire shall commit 20% of its military might to the defense of Uiri
Gens Romae will move to the Pacific Islands region along with any nation(s) who have become vassals of said state.


The Roman Empire shall remain sovereign
The Roman Empire shall keep the right to declare war.

Oh, and we have over 4.25 million active soldiers/seamen/pilots. not including logistics. Don't cross us.
1010102
08-12-2007, 19:59
When the Binarian Emperor learned of the Gens Romae declaration, he reportedly said,"What a dumbass. Any nation that accepts this is a fool and deserves whatever results from it for their stupidity."
Aurum Domus
08-12-2007, 20:06
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7733/adofficialsealve7.gif

Official Statement From Aurum Domus High Command

Lulz, seriously gtfo nao.
Stoklomolvi
08-12-2007, 20:07
The people of Stoklomolvi collectively laugh at this petty excuse for an "empire".
The Grand World Order
08-12-2007, 20:39
The government of the Grand World Order, though the nation's population is outnumbered by about 9-to-1, believes that this is by far one of the most ridiculous proposals to date. Economic calculators cannot accurately determine a nation's military size, or it's training, or it's weaponry.
The World Soviet Party
08-12-2007, 20:45
We'll donate 1,000 Gold, 1,000 Rock and 1,000 Wood so you can construct a wonder. We've heard that if you keep it for half an hour, you automatically win the game.

Can I interest you in building some barracks as well, maybe a castle?
New Czardas
08-12-2007, 20:51
The Nation of New Czardas is overawed by the generous terms and glorious prospects of life under the Roman Empire, and hereby agrees to not only all of the terms listed, but also to donate all of its citizens to the Roman Empire as slaves, to augment the Roman Empire's defence budget with its entire GNP, and mow the Roman Empire's lawn and wax its car every other week in exchange for shiny trinkets and beads.
Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 21:00
The Nation of New Czardas is overawed by the generous terms and glorious prospects of life under the Roman Empire, and hereby agrees to not only all of the terms listed, but also to donate all of its citizens to the Roman Empire as slaves, to augment the Roman Empire's defence budget with its entire GNP, and mow the Roman Empire's lawn and wax its car every other week in exchange for shiny trinkets and beads.

Somehow, I think you are being sarcastic. :confused:
Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 21:04
The people of Stoklomolvi collectively laugh at this petty excuse for an "empire".

I wouldn't laugh too hard if I were you. (http://www.sipan.org/~peter/NationStates/Tracker/index.php?nation=gens_romae&nation2=&nation3=&nation4=&nation5=stoklomolvi&nation6=&nation7=&nation8=&nation9=&nation10=) :p
Automagfreek
08-12-2007, 21:05
The Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek is pleased to announce that effective immediately, Gens Romae will now be annexed as sovereign Freekish territory. Any attempt to resist either politically or militarily will be prompty crushed, and appropriate...punishments served. Our first order of business in Freekish Gens Romae is to dissolve the pathetic "empire" that exists and install our own Chieftains to oversee local and national law and order.

Our second act will be to dissolve the Roman military, and any Roman soldier who does not turn in his weapons within 24 hours will be subject to public torture and execution. To make sure this transfer of sovereignty moves smoothly, we are prepared to send two of our finest Warchiefs and their accompanying forces.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4734/hartmanzx2.gif
Minister Hartman
-Minister of International Affairs-
Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 21:07
The Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek is pleased to announce that effective immediately, Gens Romae will now be annexed as sovereign Freekish territory. Any attempt to resist either politically or militarily will be prompty crushed, and appropriate...punishments served. Our first order of business in Freekish Gens Romae is to dissolve the pathetic "empire" that exists and install our own Chieftains to oversee local and national law and order.

Our second act will be to dissolve the Roman military, and any Roman soldier who does not turn in his weapons within 24 hours will be subject to public torture and execution. To make sure this transfer of sovereignty moves smoothly, we are prepared to send two of our finest Warchiefs and their accompanying forces.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4734/hartmanzx2.gif
Minister Hartman
-Minister of International Affairs-

You are aware that I am CA, right?
Carbandia
08-12-2007, 21:10
You are aware that I am CA, right?
ooc: And you are aware that you are talking to the head of Gholgoth, right?

@ Automagfreek:
Want a hand?
The Silver Sky
08-12-2007, 21:10
OOC: Guys guys, don't dogpile, let AMF do his stuff. :P
Vontanas
08-12-2007, 21:10
You are aware that I am CA, right?

You are aware that he is AMF, Gholgoth, and NATO, right? The CA is nothing to him.

EDIT: AMF, you have a TG.
Zackaroth
08-12-2007, 21:11
Your vaware that if you try bringing in the CA it could very well be the end of the CA :P
Automagfreek
08-12-2007, 21:11
You are aware that I am CA, right?



You are aware that we hold no reservations about engaging the entire Corporate Alliance, right? The CA doesn't scare us, and we do not even bat an eyelash at the mention of their name. As it stands now, the CA dare not trade blows with the Excessively Armed Empire by itself, let alone with all of Gholgoth behind it.

I suggest you cease your mindless yipping and enjoy your annexation.

-Hartman
Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 21:12
You are aware that we hold no reservations about engaging the entire Corporate Alliance, right? As it stands now, the CA dare not trade blows with the Excessively Armed Empire by itself, let alone with all of Gholgoth behind it.

I suggest you cease your mindless yipping and enjoy your annexation.

-Hartman

Maldorians is my chieftest ally. :D
Siriusa
08-12-2007, 21:12
Official Siriusan Communiqué
To: Gens Romae
From: Siriusa

lol wut?

Jacob L. Sirius
Royal Prince
Siriusa

OOC: Seriously, the CA isn't going to fight back. To be completely honest, you're not exactly so important to them that they'd fight back against Gholgoth. And Maldorians ain't about to get mixed up with AMF. Srsly.
Zackaroth
08-12-2007, 21:14
Maldorians is my chieftest ally. :D

OOC: Agreed. i've known Mandalrians for awhile. There smart enough to know when NOT to fight a war.
Imperial isa
08-12-2007, 21:14
I wouldn't laugh too hard if I were you. (http://www.sipan.org/~peter/NationStates/Tracker/index.php?nation=gens_romae&nation2=&nation3=&nation4=&nation5=stoklomolvi&nation6=&nation7=&nation8=&nation9=&nation10=) :p

and i would keep my mouth shut if i was you (http://www.sipan.org/~peter/NationStates/Tracker/index.php?nation=gens_romae&nation2=imperial+isa&nation3=&nation4=&nation5=&nation6=&nation7=&nation8=&nation9=&nation10=)
Vontanas
08-12-2007, 21:14
Maldorians is my chieftest ally. :D

Mal is also not suicidal. You can consider yourself annexed.
Aurum Domus
08-12-2007, 21:14
OOC: You are aware that he is Automagfreek and that the CA phails epicly at RPing, they only thing they win at is RP wanking.
Automagfreek
08-12-2007, 21:15
Maldorians is my chieftest ally. :D



Um....you say this like it is supposed to mean something to us? Perhaps your Roman brains just aren't developed enough, so I'll dumb this down you so can understand it.

AMF no scaredy of CA. No CA nation concern AMF. Maldorians want none of this.

-Hartman
Zackaroth
08-12-2007, 21:18
Zackaroth is now taking bets on how long it takes AutomagFreek to demolish the Romans. Prizes will be awarded to three with the closets times.

Robert Thur, Head of the Gambling Sector
Imperial isa
08-12-2007, 21:20
Zackaroth is now taking bets on how long it takes AutomagFreek to demolish the Romans. Prizes will be awarded to three with the closets times.

Robert Thur, Head of the Gambling Sector

with only a navy and army not long at all good sir
Gorkon
08-12-2007, 21:25
I wouldn't laugh too hard if I were you. (http://www.sipan.org/~peter/NationStates/Tracker/index.php?nation=gens_romae&nation2=&nation3=&nation4=&nation5=stoklomolvi&nation6=&nation7=&nation8=&nation9=&nation10=) :p

OOC: Why exactly do you keep quoting NSTracker at everybody as though it actually means something?
Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 21:25
Official Communication of the Roman Empire:

The Roman People would like it known to all parties involved that she would prefer complete obliteration to servitude, and, having an enormous defense budget, she has a very large arsenal of nuclear weapons, which she is not afraid to use in these circumstances. Please, send your armies...if you want to get glassed.

Sextus Augustus
Emporer of Rome
Maldorians
08-12-2007, 21:27
OOC: You are aware that he is Automagfreek and that the CA phails epicly at RPing, they only thing they win at is RP wanking.

OOC: @Topic: I hath returned!

@Aurum: Gtfo. now

Ok, this whole situation is out of whack. I am going to read all of these threads like 10 times before I know what I am getting myself into. Expect a statement soon.
The Grand World Order
08-12-2007, 21:27
I wouldn't laugh too hard if I were you. (http://www.sipan.org/~peter/NationStates/Tracker/index.php?nation=gens_romae&nation2=&nation3=&nation4=&nation5=stoklomolvi&nation6=&nation7=&nation8=&nation9=&nation10=) :p

Again with the economic calculators. You can't actually determine a military's size, because that would technically be god-moding.
Imperial isa
08-12-2007, 21:28
to Sextus Augustus

boy are you just full of BS as the only person here that would be glassed be you
Faxanavia
08-12-2007, 21:29
|Official Faxanavian Message|
On this day that such acts are to be created across all of the world, we do say to Gens Romae, in the eternal words of our founder, Charles L'Enphant I," Pwned!"

Zackaroth is now taking bets on how long it takes AutomagFreek to demolish the Romans. Prizes will be awarded to three with the closets times.

Robert Thur, Head of the Gambling Sector

I'm putting down for about 4 posts.
Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 21:29
Again with the economic calculators. You can't actually determine a military's size, because that would technically be god-moding.

It isn't technically god moding because you can't have an army if they are all dead from starvation.
Imperial isa
08-12-2007, 21:30
OOC: @Topic: I hath returned!

@Aurum: Gtfo. now

Ok, this whole situation is out of whack. I am going to read all of these threads like 10 times before I know what I am getting myself into. Expect a statement soon.

short run down GR thinks they can take over all of us and force us to go by their laws and so on
Automagfreek
08-12-2007, 21:31
Official Communication of the Roman Empire:

The Roman People would like it known to all parties involved that she would prefer complete obliteration to servitude, and, having an enormous defense budget, she has a very large arsenal of nuclear weapons, which she is not afraid to use in these circumstances. Please, send your armies...if you want to get glassed.

Sextus Augustus
Emporer of Rome


Again, we're not concerned. Since you love quoting defense budgets so much, let me make you aware that our defense budget is about 36 times that of yours. (http://www.sipan.org/~peter/NationStates/Tracker/index.php?nation=automagfreek&nation2=gens+romae&nation3=&nation4=&nation5=&nation6=&nation7=&nation8=&nation9=&nation10=) You possess no nuclear weapons that we cannot intercept with our massive ABM defenses, and if you 'really' want to get into a nuclear exchange with us, then so be it.

We advise our Roman colony to behave itself at once, for our patience is limited.

-Hartman
The Grand World Order
08-12-2007, 21:31
It isn't technically god moding because you can't have an army if they are all dead from starvation.


YOU, don't determine another nation's military. The nation that owns the military determines the military's size. And also, you can't have an army if they're all dying because there aren't any hospitals/doctors.
Acalia
08-12-2007, 21:32
Official Communication of the Roman Empire:

The Roman People would like it known to all parties involved that she would prefer complete obliteration to servitude, and, having an enormous defense budget, she has a very large arsenal of nuclear weapons, which she is not afraid to use in these circumstances. Please, send your armies...if you want to get glassed.

Sextus Augustus
Emporer of Rome

Emperor Romar shook his head as he slowly read the report on the situation with Gens Romae...

"This will be the end of that man. And the end of his country... What a waste."

(OOC: It's Emperor, not Emporer.
Aurum Domus
08-12-2007, 21:33
OOC: Mal, gtfo nao, kthx bai

Oh and Gens, quit godmodding, if you can manage that you might gain some respect. My advice, surrender to AMF.
Siriusa
08-12-2007, 21:34
It isn't technically god moding because you can't have an army if they are all dead from starvation.

Lissen, Calculators are nice and all, but a lot of people here don't use them religiously. Furthermore, a large defense budget doesn't necissarily mean that you have a larger army. Also, don't be throwing your status with nuclear weapons about. AMF could probably easily glass a continent.

EDIT: I'm trying not to sound too bully-ish, I'm actually trying to give you sound advice. If your nation doesn't become more humble in a hurry, you're in trouble.
Acalia
08-12-2007, 21:35
Lissen, Calculators are nice and all, but a lot of people here don't use them religiously. Furthermore, a large defense budget doesn't necissarily mean that you have a larger army. Also, don't be throwing your status with nuclear weapons about. AMF could probably easily glass a continent.


Yeah, AMF could probably take on the entirety of Gens Romae's prescious CA by himself and be done in time for tea.
Faxanavia
08-12-2007, 21:36
It's sort of like watching a train wreck in slow-mo...
Any news as to what the CA's going to do?
Gens Romae, I think I'll reiterate- Calculators are nice, but they don't determine a huge amount. Step down, before you become another smoking wasteland that is left behind Automagfreek.
Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 21:37
And also, you can't have an army if they're all dying because there aren't any hospitals/doctors.

I have a tax rate of slightly over 30 percent. They can pay for that shit themselves.
Acalia
08-12-2007, 21:37
I have a tax rate of slightly over 30 percent. They can pay for that shit themselves.

What about unemployment? Doesn't matter how low your tax rate is if your entire nation is jobless. Also, sending your troops to die for no reason and then not paying for their health care makes your government look like a bunch of evil assholes.
Aurum Domus
08-12-2007, 21:37
So the logical thing to do here is surrender.
Questers
08-12-2007, 21:38
[OOC: GR, have you not considered how stupid it is to throw around weight that you haven't put on? You're a billion tommorow. You're not a superpower, by any standards, in fact, you're puny.]
The Grand World Order
08-12-2007, 21:38
I have a tax rate of slightly over 30 percent. They can pay for that shit themselves.

The thing about paying for that is that there is no money allocated to actually making medicine or having it imported, therefore, there is nothing to pay for.
Acalia
08-12-2007, 21:41
The thing about paying for that is that there is no money allocated to actually making medicine or having it imported, therefore, there is nothing to pay for.

A very good point. But of course GR will dance around the question and puff his chest up. We should do something about that. (I may be small, very small in fact, but I would love help teach a lesson in modesty to GR.)
Aleos
08-12-2007, 21:41
Official Communication of the Roman Empire:

The Roman People would like it known to all parties involved that she would prefer complete obliteration to servitude, and, having an enormous defense budget, she has a very large arsenal of nuclear weapons, which she is not afraid to use in these circumstances. Please, send your armies...if you want to get glassed.

Sextus Augustus
Emporer of Rome

Official Statement.

It brings us great sadness to witness this rebellious behaviour from our newest vassal. It seems that we were too generous with our offer for it to be discounted as such. Therefore we would like to inform the Gens Romae government that we will react with extreme force should this unbecoming behaviour continues.

We would hate to waste our precious resources sited in our newly acquired territory, but make no mistake, if you step the red line we will not be merciful.

Supreme Commander of Aleos.
Braca.
Questers
08-12-2007, 21:42
The thing about paying for that is that there is no money allocated to actually making medicine or having it imported, therefore, there is nothing to pay for.

[OOC: Um, the Government doesn't have to pay for everything. You know, its a little thing called private enterprise, the foundation of any real economy?]
Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 21:42
The thing about paying for that is that there is no money allocated to actually making medicine or having it imported, therefore, there is nothing to pay for.

What part of "Private Business" do you not get?
Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 21:42
A very good point. But of course GR will dance around the question and puff his chest up. We should do something about that. (I may be small, very small in fact, but I would love help teach a lesson in modesty to GR.)

I will n00k you.
Acalia
08-12-2007, 21:42
What part of "Private Business" do you not get?

The medicine must still be produced or imported. Private Businesses can only do so much.
Automagfreek
08-12-2007, 21:43
OOC: Alright, stop the bickering and get back to the RP please....
Acalia
08-12-2007, 21:43
I will n00k you.

Go ahead, I'll just ignore it.
The Grand World Order
08-12-2007, 21:43
What part of "Private Business" do you not get?

Yes, because the private companies are going to come around to save the government's poor dying soldiers in another country without exploting the hell out of it first.

Also, lol:

Meanies are picking on me! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=544815) CA, assemble! :eek:

And about nuking Acalia. Since my country is pretty much spammed with uranium, nukes come cheaper than usual. And besides, you've already got enough nuclear-enabled countries against you to vaporize your country beyond glass.
Questers
08-12-2007, 21:44
The medicine must still be produced or imported. Private Businesses can only do so much.

Erm, private business MAKES the medicine and sells it to people. Why is it that you think that the State has to produce medicine?
Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 21:46
The medicine must still be produced or imported.

Yes, by Private Businesses. What, are you going to say that I can't have any Coca Cola because I don't have Coca Cola funds in the government?
Acalia
08-12-2007, 21:48
Erm, private business MAKES the medicine and sells it to people. Why is it that you think that the State has to produce medicine?

A private business cannot possibly make enough medicine to help all the poor and sick in the civilian and military populations (this will be even more pronounced if GR starts getting the shit bombed out of it) and I doubt that a private business could possibly allocate the funds neccesary to produce and then ship the medicine to the front lines. (As was pointed out by The Grand World Order). And the private business will most likely shoot the price up on medicine in order to make a profit thus making it harder for the soldiers to buy the medicine needed. Exploitation at its finest. (Also pointed out by TGWO)
Acalia
08-12-2007, 21:48
Yes, by Private Businesses. What, are you going to say that I can't have any Coca Cola because I don't have Coca Cola funds in the government?

Point taken.
Praetonia
08-12-2007, 21:49
Erm, private business MAKES the medicine and sells it to people. Why is it that you think that the State has to produce medicine?

look m8, medieicen dsnt wrk if caplists do it.
Aurum Domus
08-12-2007, 21:50
OOC: Quit arguing about stupid economic bs, Gens just surrender already, its either that or your nation turns to the finest glass on the NSWorld courtesy of AMF
Gens Romae
08-12-2007, 21:50
A private business cannot possibly make enough medicine to help all the poor and sick in the civilian and military populations (this will be even more pronounced if GR starts getting the shit bombed out of it) and I doubt that a private business could possibly allocate the funds neccesary to produce and then ship the medicine to the front lines. (As was pointed out by The Grand World Order). And the private business will most likely shoot the price up on medicine in order to make a profit thus making it harder for the soldiers to buy the medicine needed. Exploitation at its finest. (Also pointed out by TGWO)

Ah, I see now. Well I have no reason to say that it isn't included in the military budget. I have a budget of around 7 trillion US dollars. I have 20 million men (including logistics). That means that each man is afforded about 350,000 US dollars. I'm pretty sure that can afford medical care. :D
Faxanavia
08-12-2007, 21:51
Ah, I see now. Well I have no reason to say that it isn't included in the military budget. I have a budget of around 7 trillion US dollars. I have 20 million men (including logistics). That means that each man is afforded about 350,000 US dollars. I'm pretty sure that can afford medical care. :D

Um...What about, you know, everything else? Planes? tanks? Artillery? or do you just have an army of 20,000,000 men walk across oceans to fight?
Praetonia
08-12-2007, 21:52
[OOC: Seriously, stop bickering pointlessly OOC. Gens Romae has to make an IC post, be it to surrender or to organise a defence.]
Acalia
08-12-2007, 21:52
Ah, I see now. Well I have no reason to say that it isn't included in the military budget. I have a budget of around 7 trillion US dollars. I have 20 million men (including logistics). That means that each man is afforded about 350,000 US dollars. I'm pretty sure that can afford medical care. :D

True, but why would you do that. A defense budget is supposed to be for just that: Defense. By including medicine in a defense budget you are potentially taking away funds from more vital areas of your nations defense. Money doesn't just grow on trees you know.
Alversia
08-12-2007, 21:52
Is GR still trying to kill everybody? :rolleyes:
Acalia
08-12-2007, 21:52
Is GR still trying to kill everybody? :rolleyes:

Yes.
Faxanavia
08-12-2007, 21:53
Is GR still trying to kill everybody? :rolleyes:

Unfortunately.
New Alamancia
08-12-2007, 21:54
As the Roman People gain power and authority in the world, and steadily approach a population of 1 billion and beyond, it is made evident to the Emporer of Rome that the Empire gains strength and might. Through the self determination of the Roman People, the same People rise to the ranks of a Super Power.

On account of this, therefore, the Roman Emporer looks at a map of the world and sees primarily places which do not belong to the Empire. Therefore, the Roman People extends to all nations, especially new nations, the option to subjugate themselves to Her authority as a Vassal State.

The Vassal shall gain protection from invasion and the military backing of the Roman Empire, whose military might at this point is quite extensive. Oh yeah, and I won't invade you.

In turn...


The Vassal acknowledges the Roman Emporer as supreme sovereign.
The Vassal relinquishes the right to declare war.
The Vassal submits Itself to Roman Law.
The Vassal permits the Roman Empire to house troops within Its borders.
The Vassal permits the Roman Empire to establish military bases within Its borders.
The Vassal shall commit 20 percent of Its military might to the whim of the Roman Emporer
If the Roman Empire is attacked, the Vassal shall completely commit Its military might to the defense of the Roman Emporer.
The Vassal shall declare the Catholic Faith to be the Official State religion within Its borders.
The Vassal shall move to the region Rome and Her Vassals (The Pass is Rome)




The sovereign peoples of New Alamancia refuse to acknowledge the existence of this false empire. We encourage all freedom loving nations to join us in taking a stand against such blatant coercive imperialism.
Imperial isa
08-12-2007, 21:58
ooc i wish i could use one of my FT Destroyers it make the job of turing GR in to glass so easy
Acalia
08-12-2007, 21:58
ooc i wish i could use one of my FT Destroyers it make the job of turing GR in to glass so easy

Go ahead and do it. I won't object. I don't think anyone would, GR clearly needs to be taught a lesson.
Alversia
08-12-2007, 22:00
ooc i wish i could use one of my FT Destroyers it make the job of turing GR in to glass so easy

Good idea, an FT Dreadnought might join you at that :D
Acalia
08-12-2007, 22:00
OOC: That would be nice, but he's FT.

OOC: Future Tech could be squeezed in. Just make a bullshit post about aliens stepping in to rid the world GR before he irritates anyone else.
Alversia
08-12-2007, 22:02
OOC: Future Tech could be squeezed in. Just make a bullshit post about aliens stepping in to rid the world GR before he irritates anyone else.

Independance Day!! :D
Acalia
08-12-2007, 22:04
Independance Day!! :D

Yeah, only just him, not us too.
Alversia
08-12-2007, 22:05
Yeah, only just him, not us too.

Obviously
Acalia
08-12-2007, 22:05
Obviously

Duh.
Zackaroth
08-12-2007, 22:05
OOC: Ok guys that ENOUGH. Let GR make his IC post.
Acalia
08-12-2007, 22:06
OOC: Ok guys that ENOUGH. Let GR make his IC post.

Alright.
Imperial isa
08-12-2007, 22:08
Good idea, an FT Dreadnought might join you at that :D
ooc no need one 40k Torpedo is the size of a Saturn V , so just a number of them and it's good bye
Alversia
08-12-2007, 22:12
OOC: Ok guys that ENOUGH. Let GR make his IC post.

OOC: He can if he wants

Alversia calls on all repectable nations to form a coalition against Gens Romao aggression.
Acalia
08-12-2007, 22:12
OOC: He can if he wants

Alversia calls on all repectable nations to form a coalition against Gens Romao aggression.

I'm in. My nations military is so small its useless. But you can use my various military bases as a launch point for invasions in Gens Romae.
The Grand World Order
08-12-2007, 22:16
I'm in. My nations military is so small its useless. But you can use my various military bases as a launch point for invasions in Gens Romae.

I'm in too. My entire military is pretty much a reserve, so they all have normal jobs and whatnot, but have equipment waiting for them if they get deployed. Also, what tech level is GR?
Aleos
08-12-2007, 22:17
OOC: Problem solved (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=544857) courtesy of Aequatio, so stop spamming the thread.
Derscon
08-12-2007, 22:21
Official Declaration

We recognize our Freekish ally's claim to Gens Romae as legitimate, and no longer recognize the Roman Emperor as the legitimate governing authority in the Roman lands.

While Derscon is a member of the New Alliance Treaty Organization, and it would be perfectly acceptable to send forces to aid the Freekish Empire, we will not insult the capabilities of the Freekish Empire, and will stay out of the conflict.

As Gens Romae once attempted to assassinate several members of high importance in the Greater Prussian Empire, up to and including a Cardinal of the Catholic Church in service of the Ridgian and Prussian Government, the Roman "Empire" is no friend to Derscon or Prussia.

Dies iræ! dies illa
Solvet sæclum in favilla
Teste David cum Sibylla!
Shazbotdom
08-12-2007, 23:08
OOC:
haha. He pritty much declares war upon the world and then he runs to the CA for help. A little news flash for you, most of the membership of the CA are not that active at all. And anyways, I agree with everyone else. AMF could roll over your nation easily and there's not a damn thing the CA could do to stop him.



SHAZBOTDOM MINISTRY OF BEING A PAIN IN THE ASS
We laugh at this attempt of Gens Romae to force it's ideology onto other people and we will give our support to The Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek if they so wish to have it.
Brellach
08-12-2007, 23:29
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/brellach.jpg
ROYAL COURT OF BRELLACH

Greetings;

It escapes Her Wisdom and my own wisdom as to how so much potential blood has been scheduled for shedding over what is, quite sincerely, nothing. Perhaps, a retraction on the part of the guilty party and a verbal warning on the part of the respondent parties will help to keep the ground dry and free of blood for yet another day?

Most sincerely,

Fellis Jessina
Most devout Royal Advisor of Her Court,
Queendom of Brellach
Alversia
08-12-2007, 23:33
People's Republic
Alversia
Foreign Ministry

Following the attempted threats and the potential loss of live, Alversia joins Brellach in calling for a peace conference before innocent blood is spilt over very little.

Prime Minister Hanlon
Ackmanistan
09-12-2007, 00:39
Ackmanistan High Command

A darkened room, warded by electronic safequards. Outside the locked double doors stand a pair of Ackmanistan's finest soldiers; supremely fit, well-trained, lethally armed. No-one is interrupting this meeting.

Around the table sit the men and women by whose word the nation stands or falls, their faces lit only by the eerie glow of their monitor screens. At the head of the table, the nominal leader speaks.

"Are we all agreed then?"

Around the table, murmurs of agreement, a nod here and there. Upon all faces there can be seen but one expression; grim resolve.

"From the beginning," continues the leader, "we have prepared for this day. Despite our membership in the United Nations, there will always be threats from without, and we can rely on no-one ..." He pauses and glares around the table. Unflinching eyes meet his, and he nods in approval, "... no-one to fight our battles for us." He sits once more. "Prepare a nominal force; land, air, sea. Include a detachment of infiltration and sabotage specialists. You know the drill."

===

To: Alversia High Command
From: Ackmanistan

Troops have been prepared for dispatch when and if they are required for assistance against the territorial aggression of Gens Romae. Await your reply.
Zanski
13-01-2008, 00:26
GR, for the benefit of yourself and for others, just don't get yourself in a situation you can't get out of easily. I did... with the same people, but I made a plausable explanation and ran away. I don't intend to do that again.

GR, don't make my mistake, go away and next time, do some research before you attack a nation, because you might (and have) end up attacking a whole alliance.
Stoklomolvi
13-01-2008, 03:28
[OOC: Gens Romae has been deleted, and all history retconned. I request a locking of this thread.]
Alversia
13-01-2008, 03:36
[OOC: Gens Romae has been deleted, and all history retconned. I request a locking of this thread.]

OOC: Right enough? He's gone?
Stoklomolvi
13-01-2008, 04:00
[OOC: Forever.]
Alversia
13-01-2008, 04:07
[OOC: Forever.]

OOC: Yippee! :D :D :D Who got rid of him?
Stoklomolvi
13-01-2008, 04:17
[OOC: Apparently, a mod DEAT'ed his nation for breach of TOS, or something along that sort.]