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The president of The American Privateer was in an unusually good mood considering what she had been going through earlier. She and the President of the United States of American Planets had not gotten along well, primarily due to the fact that she had replaced Admiral Jack Ray as the leader. She had had too point out that the nation now known as The American Privateer had been disconnected long enough that there was no use in trying to re-unify the two nations, and they should just try to get along amiably as the Puddle-Jumpers went dimension hopping in search of technology for the vessels.

Now, the asteroid-world of New Tortuga was plush with new tech, and the re-built fleet was slaved to the asteroid and ready for the jump.

the FTL systems where spun up, and the asteroid-world led the rest of the fleet into the trans-universal space and back into the universe that the computers had dubbed Universe-17.

The ships returned to the Tortuga system, in high orbit over the world, to a rousing cheer that ripped through the ship. The crews where back home, and this time, they where gonna stay.

OOC: Its been a while, but I figured the time was right for a return. Note, we are returning to our old worlds

A team of Marines where dispatched to each of the worlds, due to fear of feral animals, ranging from zoo animals, to pets, to the military bugs that had been cloned under the surface of all worlds.

Alpha Company was dispatched to Port San Lucas, and were divided into squads and sent out along the main roads to clear the buildings one by one.

The teams where beamed down, weapons armed, and ordered to clear out the super talls.

Lieutenant Jameson led his platoon down the stairwell of a building, cautiously noting the entire layout. As the team reached the fifth floor down, a giant warrior bug, one of the many that had been cloned from Universe-572 (Starship Troopers), jumped out and rushed the Lt.

Ducking, the members of his squad lit the bug up, piercing it with blaster bolts. The team looked the creature over, and turned to look at each other.

"Roosevelt Actual, this is Lt. Jameson, 3rd Platoon, Alpha Company. We are going to need backup. There are bugs everywhere down here. Looks like they where busy since we left."

"Roger that Lieutenant, more forces are on their way."

In orbit, the Sovereign Class Super Star Destroyer beamed down numerous teams, all of them armed for bear.

In orbit over the world of Tortuga VI, New Tortuga sat in the sky again.

"Well, ain't this a sticky wicket?"

Down below, the surface was covered with bugs, along with the various dinosaurs and such that had been clone-bred into their colonies.

"Madam President, we do not have the manpower to retake the planet. There are only two real options, and one of them is not feasible."

"Admiral, are you honestly suggesting a Tri-Cobalt nuking of the planet?"

"Yes I am."

"Lets try the other option first," turning, the president activated a long range communication device.

"To all of our former allies, we are currently in need of assistance in re-claiming worlds that once where ours. If you can send any help, it would be greatly appreciated."

OOC: Can I intercept the message? I thought you had destroyed the surface of Tortuga VI with nukes burried under the surface?

OOC: Can I intercept the message? I thought you had destroyed the surface of Tortuga VI with nukes burried under the surface?

Go ahead

I had, but the bugs still survived. Remember, the cloning chambers where burried deep underground. New Shiloh on the other hand, was left alone, and thus we are clearing it by hand.

Oh, and if we can't get help, we are gonna use a cobalt nuke to burn away the atmo of Tortuga VI.

OOC: If we fight, no magic finding out about it like last time and happen stance packing up and leaving.

OOC: there is no need for packing right now, as we are still in our ships, and are still trying to reclaim our worlds

But the military will stay if combat is joined.

"Madam president, no response so far. It would seem that we are alone in this right now."

"Okay, Admiral, nuke it."

The locks where disengaged as the seven keys necessary to activate a Planet-Burner turned. The Cobalt-Nuke's silo opened, and the the asteroid turned to orient on the planet below them. There, the bugs looked up at the new moon, and launched plasma at the orbital.

As the plasma rained down on them, the people of New Tortuga retreated deeper into the asteroid.

The cobalt bomb launched at the planet, ready to detonate several hundred feat in the atmosphere...

OOC: Bump for involvement.

Seriously guys, I want somebody to get involved. 1010102, CoreWorlds, doesn't matter.

The bomb went off. In the sky, a second sun appeared briefly, drawing the attention of the bugs, before the planet's air erupted into flames. The firestorm ripped through the atmosphere, burning away the vegetation on the surface of the world. Soon, all that was left was a cloud of carbon-dioxide, sulphur, and particulate matter. The flames went deep, burning away the oxygen from within the cloning centers buried under the planet's crust.

OOC: Cobalt bombs don't work like that. Cobalt bombs are either dirty bombs( radioactive materials surrounding a conventional bomb) or a Salted bomb. A salted bomb is just one that produces many times the radioactivity of a normal thermonuclear device. So you either just made your entire planet a radioactive wasteland, and missed the cloning centers or had to use a big enough bomb to destroy the planet. More info (http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Nwfaq/Nfaq1.html#nfaq1.6)

OOC: Cobalt bombs don't work like that. Cobalt bombs are either dirty bombs( radioactive materials surrounding a conventional bomb) or a Salted bomb. A salted bomb is just one that produces many times the radioactivity of a normal thermonuclear device. So you either just made your entire planet a radioactive wasteland, and missed the cloning centers or had to use a big enough bomb to destroy the planet. More info (http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Nwfaq/Nfaq1.html#nfaq1.6)

Go watch Beneath The Planet of the Apes. That bomb is a form of a Cobalt bomb that ignited the atmosphere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beneath_the_Planet_of_the_Apes#Plot_summary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_device

It is stated in the Cobalt Bomb article, that the AO bomb was a Cobalt Bomb

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_Bomb

Go watch Beneath The Planet of the Apes. That bomb is a form of a Cobalt bomb that ignited the atmosphere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beneath_the_Planet_of_the_Apes#Plot_summary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_device

It is stated in the Cobalt Bomb article, that the AO bomb was a Cobalt Bomb

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_Bomb

That was a movie. Nukes do not set the atomosphere on fire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_nuclear_explosions

The energy released from a nuclear weapon detonated in the troposphere can be divided into four basic categories:

Blast—40-50% of total energy
Thermal radiation—30-50% of total energy
Ionizing radiation—5% of total energy
Residual radiation—5-10% of total energy
However, depending on the design of the weapon and the environment in which it is detonated the energy distributed to these categories can be increased or decreased to the point of nullification. The blast effect is created by immense amounts of energy, spanning the electromagnetic spectrum, with the surroundings. Locations such as submarine, surface, airburst, or exo-atmospheric determine how much energy is produced as blast and how much as radiation. In general, denser mediums around the bomb, like water, absorb more energy, and create more powerful shockwaves while at the same time limiting the area of its effect.

The dominant effects of a nuclear weapon where people are likely to be affected (blast and thermal radiation) are identical physical damage mechanisms to conventional explosives. However the energy produced by a nuclear explosive is millions of times more powerful per gram and the temperatures reached are briefly in the tens of millions of degrees.

Energy from a nuclear explosive is initially released in several forms of penetrating radiation. When there is a surrounding material such as air, rock, or water, this radiation interacts with and rapidly heats it to an equilibrium temperature. This causes vaporization of surrounding material resulting in its rapid expansion. Kinetic energy created by this expansion contributes to the formation of a shockwave. When a nuclear detonation occurs in air near sea level, much of the released energy interacts with the atmosphere and creates a shockwave which expands spherically from the hypocenter. Intense thermal radiation at the hypocenter forms a fireball and if the burst is low enough, its often associated mushroom cloud. In a burst at high altitudes, where the air density is low, more energy is released as ionizing gamma radiation and x-rays than an atmosphere displacing shockwave.

In 1945 there was some initial speculation among the scientists developing the first nuclear weapons that there might be a possibility of igniting the Earth's atmosphere with a large enough nuclear explosion. This would concern a nuclear reaction of two nitrogen atoms forming a carbon and an oxygen atom, with release of energy. This energy would heat up the remaining nitrogen enough to keep the reaction going until all nitrogen atoms were consumed. This was, however, quickly shown to be unlikely enough to be considered impossible [2]. Nevertheless, the notion has persisted as a rumour for many years.


Nukes do not ignite atomospheres. Even if they did, you would have made your planet uninhabitable. Terraforming couldn't happen because you wouldn't be able to produce enough nitrogen to create a nitrogen. To create planet wide fission of nitrogen like i said earlier, you would have to a bomb with a yield many thousands if not millions of times the size of the worlds current arsenal in a signle bomb.

That was a movie. Nukes do not set the atomosphere on fire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_nuclear_explosions




Nukes do not ignite atomospheres. Even if they did, you would have made your planet uninhabitable. Terraforming couldn't happen because you wouldn't be able to produce enough nitrogen to create a nitrogen. To create planet wide fission of nitrogen like i said earlier, you would have to a bomb with a yield many thousands if not millions of times the size of the worlds current arsenal in a signle bomb.

We are not creating planet-wide fisson. Instead, we are trying to actually burn away the atmo. Yes, I know that this will make the world uninhabitable, but with the Genesis Files stolen from the Federation data banks, we might be able to fix the problem by using the device on a single world.

Besides, the world is primarily used for military testing, its why we had all those nukes buried under the surface in the first place.

We are not creating planet-wide fisson. Instead, we are trying to actually burn away the atmo. Yes, I know that this will make the world uninhabitable, but with the Genesis Files stolen from the Federation data banks, we might be able to fix the problem by using the device on a single world.

Besides, the world is primarily used for military testing, its why we had all those nukes buried under the surface in the first place.

That is the only way to do that.

That is the only way to do that.

OOC: Go watch Fantastic Four, Reed Richards states that with a hot enough flame, then the atmo could catch fire.

Also, on the old wiki, I stated that Totuga VI had a slightly higher Nitro and Flamable Gas concentration than earth, thus lowering the ignition threshold.

IC: A platoon of Rad troopers descended to the Planet's surface in LAAT/i Gunships that had been hardened for the role. As they descended, the ship was forced to fly via nav points due to the high concentration of soot in the atmosphere.

Arriving at the canyon, they found the air down here to be clear, and almost entirely Carbon-Dioxide.

The ship landed at the Cloning Facility's Dockport, and the troopers made their way in, A280's raised. A few bugs were found, lingering on as they tried to eat the Rad Troopers. A few short bursts to their central nervous system ended that, and the bugs died with darkened eyes.

The Rad Troopers made their way to the Cloning Chamber, and pulled out the vials containing DNA samples for the complete stock. Each species was a full cargo crate in size, justified by the desire to maintain Genetic purity and prevent inbreeding.

A Gallofree Medium Transport, one of very few left in service, landed at the Dockport. The Rad Troopers co-ordinated a group of Cargo Haulers that moved the crates onto the ship, and then lifted them into orbit, where they would be delivered to the Titan and Genesis Projects.

OOC: Go watch Fantastic Four, Reed Richards states that with a hot enough flame, then the atmo could catch fire.

OOC; NEVER, ever base an argument on realism from a movie. I'm not saying that its not possible, what I'm saying is that the planet will be destroyed if you try and use nuke to burn off the atomosphere. yes it will still be there, just impossible for life to ever live there again, even with a new atmospehere, the planet will be so irradiated it won't matter.

OOC; NEVER, ever base an argument on realism from a movie. I'm not saying that its not possible, what I'm saying is that the planet will be destroyed if you try and use nuke to burn off the atomosphere. yes it will still be there, just impossible for life to ever live there again, even with a new atmospehere, the planet will be so irradiated it won't matter.

OOC: Lol, funny. Anyways, this is why we are going to be testing Project Genesis on that planet, after dumping the nano-bots known as the "Japanese Miracle" into the atmo.

IC
Several Puddle Jumpers made their way into the atmosphere of the plane, and dropped their nanites. The "Japanese Miracle" was an old nanite, and could be dispersed over wide areas, concentrating on the location of the blast and then spreading outwards. As the first four made their pases, New Tortuga aimd at the planet, and fired nanite dispersal missiles at the planet's surface. Within five months, the planet would be free of radiation, and the Genesis Project was ready to be tested, the way it was meant to be tested.

On New Shiloh, the battle was taking much more time. This was mainly due to the restraint with which the Reclamation Teams where undergoing their hunts. The one good thing they could report was that one of the Klendathuan Brain Bugs had remained loyal, and had sent its bugs to assist the Humans that where hunting the beasts.

Meanwhile, aboard New Tortuga, the President watched as the Dimensional Gate opened up. Out came a ship that while small compared to the other vessels in the Republic's fleet was also extremely powerful. The USS Iroquios, purchased from the UNSC of the Universe now termed Universe-8, had twin MAC cannons, 28 Archer Missile pods, and 3 Shiva Nuclear Missiles.

As it glided through the gate, it turned to the New Tortuga, and a hail was sent out. The captain of the ship, a young Female Kel Doran, was nervous about contacting her Commander in Chief.

"Madam President, it would seem that the Forerunners have an Arc in this Universe as well. Thanks to Monitor-16807, we might be able to Program the Ark to send us a non-weaponary version of the Halos. If this is true, it would make a good shelter world in the case of attacks."

"Good, I want you to take a squad of Puddle Jumpers in search of it. Also, I am ordering the Mendicant Bias to join you with it's full Drop-Ship Complement, just to be safe."

"Madam President, what do you fear we are going to meet there?"

"Honestly? I fear that the Flood will be present in this universe. If there are Installations here, then I can see no other possibility. But, with all those Mechs, and all those tanks, you should be fine."

"Aye Aye, Ma'am." (Note: This will be more fleshed out in a different thread.)

um, WTF? Mix and match much?

um, WTF? Mix and match much?

OOC: Yep, the thing is that no use of a universe's technology precludes the rest. Not to mention, that we are Dimensional Jumpers.

For example, Zoids, BattleMechs and AT's coexist. Our SW ships have ST Holographic Projectors on all decks that are used for Ship Defense in case of Boarding actions. Their centerlines have been remodulated for the purpose of carrying MAC Cannons, and they bear Asgard Hyderdrive Engines.

Trust me, it works in NS.

As the marines slogged their way through the ground campaign, the High Command and the Congressional Comities on Transportation, Defence, Commerce and the Secretaries of Defense, Transportation, and Commerce where meeting with the president on a radical new idea for transportation.

The National Intelligence Director, Samson Bourne, was the first to speak. "Madam President, so far, our information leads us to believe that no other nation is using FTL drives similar to ours. The closest seems to be the Jump Drive utilized by those with the Technology of the Twelve Colonies of Kobol from Universe-19, though traditional FTLi systems seem to be able to prevent their technologies. Thus, the Republic Security Bureau has designed the following plan. We wish to place Stable Gav-Shadow FTLi systems throughout the Systems of The American Privateer, and thus prevent outside invasions. Also, we have suggested the creation of a Jump Gate Relay system, the ones we bought in Universe-14. This way, using the older Jump Gates, we could set up a strong point somewhere isolated in case of Outside attack."

Senator Sandra Oh, head of the Transportation Committee, stood up next. "The Transportation Committee has voted, 6-4, in favor of the Jump Gate Relays, due to the increased revenue from Jump Gate Tolls, and the cheaper ships that will be available via the lack of a need for FTL drives, meaning an increase in shipping."

Rebbecca St. James looked around, and saw the people nodding in favor of the system. "Any dissenters?"

The Secretary of the Treasury stood just then, and raised his hand. "I do not like this. I have estimated that the cost of this system would run up into the trillions for construction alone. Upkeep will cost billions. How can we be sure we will be able to afford the system?"

Sandra responded, "Well, our projections indicate that the tolls on the gates will be more than enough to maintain it, and there is already a new Company, Nebula Transportation, that has come out stating that they are willing to actually run the systems for us. Thus, while we would own them, Nebula Transportation would actually run them."

The secretary shrugged, and spread her hands in a gesture of acceptance.

"Okay then, let's get to work. This gate system could be the thing we need to finally protect this nation."

The Beacons where going into place around the system. Each one had a Twelve Ly radius, and where each placed within four light years of the other. Thus, there was a 48 light year barrier around the cluster. The only way in was via an isolated Jump Gate located several hundred Light years from the cluster. There, it would take ten months without an FTL drive to reach the cluster, half that time with a Hyperdrive. Near the entrance, was a Sensor Station, dedicated to looking for intruders. A HyperPulse Generator sat near the sensor, ready to send out the information dealing with the incoming vessels.

The Jumpgate was only 300 meters in Diameter, specially designed to not allow the heavier battleships from entering.

Meanwhile, the first of the Jump Relay Gate Stations had been built. It possessed four gates, each of which was 800 meters in diameter, and a small space station for the purpose of monitoring Gate Traffic. The Relay Gates where built wide enough to carry all but the Sovereigns and Lucrehulks, making it easier for the military forces to be shifted around the systems without the need to activate their FTL drives, and thus saving the government a lot of money.

Elsewhere, the High Command began construction of a new Naval Yard. Named for the dry docks in Newport News, the Newport Dry Dock was the new primary naval base, supplanting John Paul Jones base over New Shiloh as the primary Naval Base for the military.

OOC: So what your saying is, is that you are blocking every signle type of FTL? Godmode.

OOC: So what your saying is, is that you are blocking every signle type of FTL? Godmode.

No, the FTLi system we use blocks most forms of FTL. Tesseract Drives, Wormhole Generators, Transwarp Travel, Phase Drives, and Universal Trans-Locators can all bypass our FTLi systems. However, they are not very common, with Warp Drives, Jump Drives, and Hyperdrives being the most common. No one I know of on NS uses those drives.

As the systems where put into place, the Eureka Maru, a freighter from Port San Lucas, was selected as the first to try the new system out. The gate to the Tortuga System opened, and the ship slipped into the event horizon. Inside the wormhole, the ship fired off a missile. This missile, containing special vacuum fire-works, raced towards the exit point, and erupted on the other side several days later. The cargo ship on the other hand, had to wait a full fifteen days to reach the other side and it's very own celebration.

OOC: Cargo ships do not have FTL, Passenger Liners do not either, though Passenger Ferries do, as they are used more like airlines than cruise ships. Also, for planet to planet travel within a system, smaller craft with FTL systems are used.

The Intallation was finished. Built upon the Ark, it was sent to the location of the Entry Gate, where it was transformed into a primal jungle. Dinosaurs mixed with monsters from all the worlds visited by the Gatherers. As they did so, the population eventually settled into an eco-system, and stability formed. herds of Hadrosaurs mixed with herds of saurapods, while Ceratopsians mixed in with Rhinos and mammoths. Land sharks and Dragons took to the dirt and air respectively, and several hives of Klendathuans where established on the Ring's primary continent. A set of fifteen space elevators descended from a massive spherical space station that sat in the dead center of the ring. Massive docks expanded away from it, as a full shipyard was built on the far side of the station from the gate. Once completed, the station would serve as a connection to the rest of the nation, and an Ellis Island Facility for those who would immigrate to the nation.

The science ship Beagle sat over Tortuga VI and oriented down on the planet. The vessel fired the missile on the planet, and the Genesis Torpedo was away.

As it impacted, the energy wave broke out upon the planet. The Nanites on the surface mutated as they were hit by the wave. The transformed, and began to generate radiation. Enough stayed the way they where that they where able to maintain the radiation levels. They began to be inhaled as the new creatures sprang from the ground. And thus, a new disease was born.