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A few months ago, reviews of the Army's mechanized arm showed it remarkably aging, weak in power, and unprepared for today's antitank weapons. This sketched an ironic picture for the Army: their M19 Warriors could pop 10 inches of composite, yet its own tanks can't hold up against the same. It was also concerned with its relatively small SAM batteries, and none of its tanks had a SAM rocket launcher.

The government then released a prize of 10 billion E$ for the leading design, covering total DPR for the tank.

To submit your design, please put it into this format:

Name of tank:
Name of Manufacturer:
Weight:
Height:
Length:
Width:
Speed
-Maximum:
-Normal:
-20% slope:
Engine:
Range:
Armament
-Primary weapon:
-Secondary weapon:
-SAM weapon
Armor:
Crew:

We will take a few designs, so as to not let one tank's weakness cripple the whole Army.

SAM rockets...on a tank?

Leave air defense to dedicated vehicles and towed platforms. Tanks should be destroying other tanks, not intercepting enemy helicopters and fast movers.

My Tank Desing (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529486)

Name of tank: M9-A1 Super-heavy tank
Name of Manufacturer: Eagle Dynamics
Weight: 89 tons
Height: 12 metres
Length: 32 metres
Width: 13 metres
Speed
-Maximum: 38 mph
-Normal: 26 mph
-20% slope: 22 mph
Engine: 2 AGT-1500 multi-fuel turbine engines
Range: 252 miles
Armament
-Primary weapons: 240mm Smoothbore cannon, 80mm mortar
-Secondary weapons: 30mm Auto-cannon, 2 Pintle mounted M2 BMGs, 2 Quad linked MG-3 side sponsons
-SAM weapon: 2 RIM-7 Sparrows
Armor: Chobham Re-enforced steel plating
Crew: 10 (Commander, Driver, 9 gunners)

Is there a version of the M9 with a diesel? We really like diesel because it doesn't crap out in the shit terrain we have.

Specifications – SoL GNC5 “Iron Curtain” Main Battle Tank, People's Republic of North Calaveras Key DataCrew 3 (Driver, Commander, Gunner) DimensionsLength (With Gun Forward) 15.76mHeight 2.34mWidth 3.66Weight 64.59 tonnesGround Clearance 54cmGround Pressure 12.3psi PerformanceMaximum (Governed) Speed* 82 kphCross Country Speed * 58.3 kphSpeed, 10% Slope * 26 kphSpeed, 60% slope * 11.1 kphAcceleration * 0kph to 32 kph in 6.8 secondsRange 700 km (590 km at operational cruising speed) ManoeuvrabilityVertical Obstacle Crossing 74 cmTrench 300 cm (10 ft)Suspension Hydropneumatic ArmamentMain Armament 120mm calibre smooth bore cannon, M256 L55 (40 rnds)Secondary Armament 2 x 14.7mm machine guns, LY60 (650 rnds each) on powered remote rotary mounts.2 x TPFMI MkII “Helios” BVR ATGMPowerPropulsion Twin-turbocharged 1,700 HP (1,275 kW) V10 diesel (at 2400 RPM.)Transmission Hydrokinetic automatic transmission (4 fwd gears, 2 rvse)Power-to-Weight Ratio 26.32 hp/t Armour and ProtectionArmour Type 4340 Steel, 3rd Gen Chobham, ERA.NBC Protection LYMkII CBRN overpressure system.Missile Countermeasures Lyran InfoWar Mk III laser-based ATGM CMD

SAM rockets...on a tank?

Leave air defense to dedicated vehicles and towed platforms. Tanks should be destroying other tanks, not intercepting enemy helicopters and fast movers.

Yeah, but our tanks have been doing this for decades. The dedicated SAM platforms tend to get totaled in the mountain battles. This is why we use tanks as batteries.

Name:SoL GNC5 “Iron Curtain” Main Battle Tank
Producer:People's Republic of North Calaveras

Key Data

Crew: 3 (Driver, Commander, Gunner)

Dimensions-
Length (With Gun Forward): 15.76m
Height: 2.34m
Width: 3.66m

Weight 64.59 tonnes
Ground Clearance: 54cm
Ground Pressure: 12.3psi

Performance-
Maximum (Governed) Speed*: 82 kph
Cross Country Speed*: 58.3 kph
Speed, 10% Slope*: 26 kph
Speed, 60% slope*: 11.1 kph
Acceleration*: 0kph to 32 kph in 6.8 seconds
Range: 700 km (590 km at operational cruising speed)

Manoeuvrability-
Vertical Obstacle Crossing: 74 cm
Trench: 300 cm (10 ft)
Suspension: Hydropneumatic

Armament-
Main Armament: 120mm calibre smooth bore cannon, M256 L55 (40 rnds)
Secondary Armament: 2 x 14.7mm machine guns, LY60 (650 rnds each) on powered remote rotary mounts.
SAM turret (?):2 x TPFMI MkII “Helios” BVR ATGM

Power/Propulsion: Twin-turbocharged 1,700 HP (1,275 kW) V10 diesel (at 2400 RPM.)
Transmission: Hydrokinetic automatic transmission (4 fwd gears, 2 rvse)
Power-to-Weight Ratio: 26.32 hp/t

Armour and Protection:Armour Type 4340 Steel, 3rd Gen Chobham, ERA.
NBC Protection: LYMkII CBRN overpressure system.
Missile Countermeasures: Lyran InfoWar Mk III laser-based ATGM CMD

I edited this able to make it easier to read for everbody... sorry, Calaveras.

Otherwise, It's a lot of stuff in a very small space. Can you make one that's 1m wider and taller? Otherwise, I think both are pretty close

Name of tank: The Divine Tiger
Name of Manufacturer: The Grand World Order Engineering Unit
Weight: 68 tons
Height: 8 feet, 5 inches
Length: Gun forward, 35 feet
Width: 13 feet
Speed
-Maximum: 50 MPH
-Normal: 48 MPH
-20% slope: 40 MPH
Engine: AGT-1500 multi-fuel turbine engine, Honeywell LV100-5 turbine engine 1500 hp
Range: 455 miles
Armament
-Primary weapon: Two 125mm Smoothbore Tank Guns
-Secondary weapon: One 75. Machine gun, One 50. Machine gun, One FHASAW Heavy Squad Automatic/Mountable Machine Gun
-SAM weapon: SAM? On a tank? You can hook one up on a Divine Tiger Extra Weapon Trailer, I suppose.
Armor: Chobham, about 4.5 feet at the thickest point
Crew: One commander, one driver, one gunner, two loaders, optional engineer seat.

---------------URCEA DEFENSE SUPPLIES CORPORATION - U.D.S.C ----------------------

U.D.S.C would like to present both it´s tank and the weapon to counter it.

Chimera

U-3A2 Main Battle Tank

The U-3A2 Main Battle Tank is a modernised upgraded of the now infamous Sherman,developed by Urcea.The tank has provided proven battlefield performance over six decades and has been continuously advanced and upgraded with advanced weapon control,ammunition,applique armour and increasingly powerful engines.

Armament:

The main gun is the 120mm L55 Smoothbore Gun with 38 rounds of ammunition. The gun is fully stabilised in the elevation and traverse axes, and is fitted with a thermal sleeve. Both gunner and commander are able to fire the gun and select the type of ammunition to be fired. The commander has a 12.7mm Browning M2 machine gun. A 7.62mm Rheinmetall M3 machine gun is also mounted coaxially on the right hand side of the main armament.
The tank has two smoke generation systems, an engine exhaust smoke system which sprays fuel into the exhaust manifold, and two six-barrelled smoke grenade launchers which are fitted on ether side of the turret.

Armour:

The turret is protected with second generation Chobham armour and is usually fitted with ERA for greater protection. A nuclear, biological and chemical (NBC) protection system is located in the turret bustle. The U-3A2 has a KE protection level of 380-520mm in the turret and 400-430mm in the Glacis. Against CE, the U-3A2 has a 850-1250mm in the turret and 570mm in the Glacis.

Fire Control & Optical Systems:

The tank is fitted with a Raytheon fire control system including an AN/WG-2 eyesafe laser rangefinder and M21 ballistic computer. The gunner's sight is boresighted with the laser rangefinder.The tank M21 fire control computer analises the type of ammunition,which has been selected.The gunner provides the input data for the air temperature and pressure.Other input data is downloaded from various sensors: the target range from the laser rangefinder and cant, crosswind, and inertial tracking rates from the gun stabilisation unit.This allows accurate engagement against moving targets while the tank is on the move.

Propulsion:

A Continental AVDS-1790-2C 12 cylinder air-cooled diesel engine provides 760 bhp at a rotational speed of 2,400rpm. The U-3A2 achieves a maximum cross-country speed of 10mph to 12mph and up to 30mph roadspeed. The cruise range is 312 miles.The vehicle is able to negotiate vertical steps up to 36 inches, gradients up to 60% and side slopes up to 30%. The tank can cross water up to 48in in depth without preparation and up to 90in in depth using the fording kit.

Specifications:

Crew: 4
Length W/Gun: 19ft 4in or 5.89m
Height: 9ft or 2.74m
Width: 8ft 7in or 2.62m
Weight: 39 tons
Ground Clearance: 18 in
Ground Pressure: 12.28 psi
Performance:
0 to 20 mph-15 secs
Maximum Speed: 35 mph
Maximum Cross-Country Speed: 12 mph
Maximum gradient: 60 per cent
Cruise Range: 312 miles
Obstacle Crossing Vertical: 36 in
Obstacle Crossing Trench: 102 in
Fording Depth Without Kit: 48 in

Armament:

Main Gun: Rheinmetall 120mm L55 Smoothbore Cannon
Stowage Of Primary Ammunition: 38 rounds
Coaxial Weapon:7.62 mm M3 machine gun
Commander Weapon: Browning M2 .50BMG
Smoke Grenade Launcher: M-239
Engine: Air-Cooled 760 Bhp Diesel Engine
Fuel: 378 Gallons

Price: $1.6 Million USD Per Unit

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Bellerophon

U.D.S.C AT-9 Portable Anti-Tank Grenade Launcher

Image (http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4440/lawks7.png)

Primary function: Light Anti-Armor Weapon
Manufacturer:U.D.C

Specifications:

-Launcher:AT-9 L.A.W

Length:1,020 mm (40 inches)
Weight(Complete System):6.1 kg (13.5 pounds)
Aiming Module:Hensoldt NMT-6 Aiming Module With Laser Rangefinder And Incorporated Infrared/Night Vision And Thermal Imaging

-Rocket:84mm High Explosive Anti-Armor Warhead

Caliber:84 mm
Muzzle Velocity:290 mps (950 fps)
Length:460 mm (18 inches)
Weight:1.8 kg (4 pounds)
Minimum Range Training:30 meters (100 feet)
Combat:10 meters (33 feet)
Arming:10 meters (33 feet)
Maximum Range:2,100 meters (6,890 feet)
Maximum Effective Range:300 meters (985 feet)

Penetration: 400 mm of rolled homogenous armor
Time of Flight (to 250 meters): less than 1 second
Muzzle velocity: 950 feet (285 meters) per second
Operating temperature: -104 to +140° F (-40 to +60°C)
Ammunition: Rocket with shaped charge warhead
Unit Replacement Cost: $1,400.00

Price: $1,100.00 USD

Both Available At Our Storefront : Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13274142&posted=1#post13274142)

---------------URCEA DEFENSE SUPPLIES CORPORATION - U.D.S.C ----------------------

U.D.S.C would like to present both it´s tank and the weapon to counter it.

Chimera

U-3A2 Main Battle Tank

The U-3A2 Main Battle Tank is a modernised upgraded of the now infamous Sherman,developed by Urcea.The tank has provided proven battlefield performance over six decades and has been continuously advanced and upgraded with advanced weapon control,ammunition,applique armour and increasingly powerful engines.

Armament:

The main gun is the 120mm L55 Smoothbore Gun with 38 rounds of ammunition. The gun is fully stabilised in the elevation and traverse axes, and is fitted with a thermal sleeve. Both gunner and commander are able to fire the gun and select the type of ammunition to be fired. The commander has a 12.7mm Browning M2 machine gun. A 7.62mm Rheinmetall M3 machine gun is also mounted coaxially on the right hand side of the main armament.
The tank has two smoke generation systems, an engine exhaust smoke system which sprays fuel into the exhaust manifold, and two six-barrelled smoke grenade launchers which are fitted on ether side of the turret.

Armour:

The turret is protected with second generation Chobham armour and is usually fitted with ERA for greater protection. A nuclear, biological and chemical (NBC) protection system is located in the turret bustle. The U-3A2 has a KE protection level of 380-520mm in the turret and 400-430mm in the Glacis. Against CE, the U-3A2 has a 850-1250mm in the turret and 570mm in the Glacis.

Fire Control & Optical Systems:

The tank is fitted with a Raytheon fire control system including an AN/WG-2 eyesafe laser rangefinder and M21 ballistic computer. The gunner's sight is boresighted with the laser rangefinder.The tank M21 fire control computer analises the type of ammunition,which has been selected.The gunner provides the input data for the air temperature and pressure.Other input data is downloaded from various sensors: the target range from the laser rangefinder and cant, crosswind, and inertial tracking rates from the gun stabilisation unit.This allows accurate engagement against moving targets while the tank is on the move.

Propulsion:

A Continental AVDS-1790-2C 12 cylinder air-cooled diesel engine provides 760 bhp at a rotational speed of 2,400rpm. The U-3A2 achieves a maximum cross-country speed of 10mph to 12mph and up to 30mph roadspeed. The cruise range is 312 miles.The vehicle is able to negotiate vertical steps up to 36 inches, gradients up to 60% and side slopes up to 30%. The tank can cross water up to 48in in depth without preparation and up to 90in in depth using the fording kit.

Specifications:

Crew: 4
Length W/Gun: 19ft 4in or 5.89m
Height: 9ft or 2.74m
Width: 8ft 7in or 2.62m
Weight: 39 tons
Ground Clearance: 18 in
Ground Pressure: 12.28 psi
Performance:
0 to 20 mph-15 secs
Maximum Speed: 35 mph
Maximum Cross-Country Speed: 12 mph
Maximum gradient: 60 per cent
Cruise Range: 312 miles
Obstacle Crossing Vertical: 36 in
Obstacle Crossing Trench: 102 in
Fording Depth Without Kit: 48 in

Armament:

Main Gun: Rheinmetall 120mm L55 Smoothbore Cannon
Stowage Of Primary Ammunition: 38 rounds
Coaxial Weapon:7.62 mm M3 machine gun
Commander Weapon: Browning M2 .50BMG
Smoke Grenade Launcher: M-239
Engine: Air-Cooled 760 Bhp Diesel Engine
Fuel: 378 Gallons

Price: $1.6 Million USD Per Unit

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Bellerophon

U.D.S.C AT-9 Portable Anti-Tank Grenade Launcher

Image (http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4440/lawks7.png)

Primary function: Light Anti-Armor Weapon
Manufacturer:U.D.C

Specifications:

-Launcher:AT-9 L.A.W

Length:1,020 mm (40 inches)
Weight(Complete System):6.1 kg (13.5 pounds)
Aiming Module:Hensoldt NMT-6 Aiming Module With Laser Rangefinder And Incorporated Infrared/Night Vision And Thermal Imaging

-Rocket:84mm High Explosive Anti-Armor Warhead

Caliber:84 mm
Muzzle Velocity:290 mps (950 fps)
Length:460 mm (18 inches)
Weight:1.8 kg (4 pounds)
Minimum Range Training:30 meters (100 feet)
Combat:10 meters (33 feet)
Arming:10 meters (33 feet)
Maximum Range:2,100 meters (6,890 feet)
Maximum Effective Range:300 meters (985 feet)

Penetration: 400 mm of rolled homogenous armor
Time of Flight (to 250 meters): less than 1 second
Muzzle velocity: 950 feet (285 meters) per second
Operating temperature: -104 to +140° F (-40 to +60°C)
Ammunition: Rocket with shaped charge warhead
Unit Replacement Cost: $1,400.00

Price: $1,100.00 USD

Both Available At Our Storefront : Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13274142&posted=1#post13274142)

Hmm... this one is taking the lead.

Hmm... this one is taking the lead.

OOC: If I may criticise... the weight of that tank is insanely light. Russian tanks, considered light by western standards, weigh around 50 tons. Western tanks usually punch around the 70 ton level. I doubt that tank would be able to handle the weight and kick of a Rheinmetall 120mm.

It's not a real tank, or a viable choice. For crying out loud, it's based on an M4 Sherman!

State Department Communication
Hello. We have received word of your request to find and field a new main battle tank. While we wish we could offer you our own tank, it is currently still in the prototype stage. Instead we would be willing to sell you up to 15,000 of our surplus Nakil (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=478771) tanks, upgraded to the GU variant. We will sell each tank for six million dollars, they are in good overall condition and we can provide logistical training and support for an additional two hundred thousand dollars per tank. Please get back to us.

OOC: If I may criticise... the weight of that tank is insanely light. Russian tanks, considered light by western standards, weigh around 50 tons. Western tanks usually punch around the 70 ton level. I doubt that tank would be able to handle the weight and kick of a Rheinmetall 120mm.

It's not a real tank, or a viable choice. For crying out loud, it's based on an M4 Sherman!

OOC:Don´t pay attention to him.Urcea built this tank,and the feasibility issue has already been discussed with the prevailing opinion that the tank is indeed possible to manufacture.Or else,how could we have them at our warehouse?

Thank you.

The U.D.S.C Management.

Don´t pay attention to him.Urcea built this tank,and the feasibility issue has already been discussed with the prevailing opinion that the tank is indeed possible to manufacture.Or else,how could we have them at our warehouse?

Thank you.

The U.D.S.C Management.

ooc and you Livria should learn not to post a ic to a ooc post

ooc and you Livria should learn not to post a ic to a ooc post

OOC:I know i shouldn´t but in a way his OOC post is as IC active as a IC one.

ooc: that tank has to be a joke. There is no way that you could squeeze in a 120mm gun (unless it's a howitzer) on a tank of that size.

ooc: that tank has to be a joke. There is no way that you could squeeze in a 120mm gun (unless it's a howitzer) on a tank of that size.

OOC:We are only resellers/producers of the tank.The one who invented it was Urcea,so if you need explanations TG him.

ooc: I do not need a explanation, he needs to realize that that design is a piece of god forsaken junk. And so do you.

OOC:I know i shouldn´t but in a way his OOC post is as IC active as a IC one.

ooc as long as you know ok then carry on

OOC:I know i shouldn´t but in a way his OOC post is as IC active as a IC one.

OOC: It was OOC, so you should respond in kind. The fact that it is advice regarding an IC decision is irrelevant.

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