NationStates Jolt Archive

The Naval Observatory, according to the wishes of the President of The American privateer, has decided to place the progress reports on several Not-So-Secret projects here.

First off, we are proud to acknowledge that we have come up with a brand new vessel. Based off a combination of Iowa and Spruance Class hulls, the new vessel, dubbed IXMD-1, is built with four Tactical High Energy Lasers taking the place of the four turrets found on the Iowa Class Hull. Due to the expense of the systems, and the added weight from four of them, the IXMD-1 is outfitted with twin Spruance Class Hulls built into an Outrigger form for added stability in rough waters. The Spruance class hulls have been stripped down in terms of weaponry, with their heavy cannons gone. Due to it's role as a Missile Defense vessel, the IXMD-1 has had its VLS Missile Load-Out replaced with Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense Missiles.

Secondly, we are working on a dedicated THAAD platform based in the air. This system will be used to hover over the defended area. It is currently being placed into a Proto-type, designated YPZ-1.

This Airship has four sets of septuple launchers for the THAAD Missile System.

That is all for now, more information to come later.

First off, we are proud to acknowledge that we have come up with a brand new vessel. Based off a combination of Iowa and Spruance Class hulls, the new vessel, dubbed IXMD-1, is built with four Tactical High Energy Lasers taking the place of the four turrets found on the Iowa Class Hull. Due to the expense of the systems, and the added weight from four of them, the IXMD-1 is outfitted with twin Spruance Class Hulls built into an Outrigger form for added stability in rough waters. The Spruance class hulls have been stripped down in terms of weaponry, with their heavy cannons gone. Due to it's role as a Missile Defense vessel, the IXMD-1 has had its VLS Missile Load-Out replaced with Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense Missiles.

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If I am not mistaken, you have succeeded in creating a trimaran missile defence warship for use against theatre ballistic missiles. Why not simply adapt an ordinary missile cruiser or arsenal ship to fire anti-ballistic missiles such as the Patriot, Chetz, or more advanced versions thereof?

Further, the floating platform seems to be extremely vulnerable to long-range antiaircraft missiles...

Signed,
Fleet Admiral Carl Jenkins,
Kahanistan Republic Navy

If I am not mistaken, you have succeeded in creating a trimaran missile defence warship for use against theatre ballistic missiles. Why not simply adapt an ordinary missile cruiser or arsenal ship to fire anti-ballistic missiles such as the Patriot, Chetz, or more advanced versions thereof?

Further, the floating platform seems to be extremely vulnerable to long-range antiaircraft missiles...

Signed,
Fleet Admiral Carl Jenkins,
Kahanistan Republic Navy Kubras top scientists have a answer for this.

We have deduced that the missiles will get so scared upon seeing a laser defense system and will thus back to their home countries and explode. The panicked civilians will also be scared and their heads will asplode. We are 100% sure this is correct and we base this on the very convincing evidence of nothing.

If I am not mistaken, you have succeeded in creating a trimaran missile defence warship for use against theatre ballistic missiles. Why not simply adapt an ordinary missile cruiser or arsenal ship to fire anti-ballistic missiles such as the Patriot, Chetz, or more advanced versions thereof?

Further, the floating platform seems to be extremely vulnerable to long-range antiaircraft missiles...

Signed,
Fleet Admiral Carl Jenkins,
Kahanistan Republic Navy

We have several reasons for this.
1. The THAAD is THE most advanced system for ABM purposes
2. The Tactical High Energy Laser is capable for use against both Ballistic Missiles and Aircraft
3. This is designed for use on the Fleet level, meaning that we will not be building more than 15 of these ships.
4. The THEL is able to shoot down a missile and neutralize a chemical for much cheaper than a THAAD ($3,000 instead of $3,000,000)
5. The Trimaran is more stable, and is less likely to capsize in rough water or from weapons damage

We have several reasons for this.
1. The THAAD is THE most advanced system for ABM purposes
2. The Tactical High Energy Laser is capable for use against both Ballistic Missiles and Aircraft
3. This is designed for use on the Fleet level, meaning that we will not be building more than 15 of these ships.
4. The THEL is able to shoot down a missile and neutralize a chemical for much cheaper than a THAAD ($3,000 instead of $3,000,000)
5. The Trimaran is more stable, and is less likely to capsize in rough water or from weapons damage

OOC:Your points have some problems
1. Not on NS.
5. Trimaran Designs cannot turn as sharp as mono hulled ones, and have more weak spots against mines and torpedoes.

OOC: And how to you propose to power the lasers, which would have to be significantly more powerful than RL THEL for use against missiles and aircraft. Also I severely doubt you can put a THAAD radar system on this.

The YPZ-1 was floated out to the edge of White Sands. Inside, the crews checked over the systems, based off of the Hyperions, designated AZ-1 Hyperion. As they found them to all be in good condition, they maneuvered out to the test area.

As they did, Standard SAM missiles targeted the airship. They fired off, launching twelve missiles. The THAAD systems fired as the radar based in the balloon tracked the missiles.

The THAAD missiles fired, twelve in all. They spiraled outwards, and then zoomed off towards their targets. Eleven of them hit their targets, while the twelfth missed it completely.

"Control, Control! Abort Twelfth missile! Repeat, Repeat! Abort Twelfth missile!"

The missile neared the THAAD Airship, and detonated as it came into contact with one of the flares ejected by the balloon. As the rods expanded, they ripped through the central airbag, and out the other side.

The YPZ-1 floated there, and slowly sunk to the ground under its own power.

The crew departed the airship, and the controller commented, "Well, it almost worked!"

That drew a nervous laugh from the crew, who had all just lived through a terrifying moment.

The commander jotted down a note, telling the engineers to work on the target tracking, as well as the installation of an ABL in the bottom of the gondola.

Congratulation's to the Naval Observatory. Through the Near Earth Asteroid Program, we have tracked and located all the NEA's in the system. We have now set out to build a defense system. Therefore, I would like to announce the implementation of the Strategic Asteroid Defense System. This system, based around the THEL system, uses seven THEL's to fire a laser at an asteroid, disintegrating the system. The pieces are then targeted by the individual THEL's for further disintegration. Note: This system will be pointed into space, and will be programmed so that it cannot be re-directed, with a fully independent system built within. The Spartan will be fully insulated from exterior control.

OOC: If people disagree with this system, then I will refrain from launching it.

OOC: And how to you propose to power the lasers, which would have to be significantly more powerful than RL THEL for use against missiles and aircraft. Also I severely doubt you can put a THAAD radar system on this.

We are using experimental Fusion Reactors, five of them in total for the system.
Also, the THAAD system's radar is in full replacement of the normal radar system, as it is more powerful. Not to mention that this combines with twin AEGIS systems.

OOC:Your points have some problems
1. Not on NS.
5. Trimaran Designs cannot turn as sharp as mono hulled ones, and have more weak spots against mines and torpedoes.

1. Maybe, but it is the one I know the most about
5. These are stored in the center of a Fleet

We are using experimental Fusion Reactors, five of them in total for the system.
Also, the THAAD system's radar is in full replacement of the normal radar system, as it is more powerful. Not to mention that this combines with twin AEGIS systems.



1. Maybe, but it is the one I know the most about
5. These are stored in the center of a Fleet


OOC: you seem to pick and choose don't you? RL tech in MT NS is about 15 years outdated. While Fusion reactors are normally considered upper PMT(2050)

Wait. If you're using fusion reactors (which should be far more massive than equivalent fission generators anywhere but PMT. Or possible at all, for that matter), why are you still using THAADs and THEL? Especially considering that THEL is a chemical laser...

5. These are stored in the center of a Fleet
A) Then your fleet can't maneuver at any sort of speed.
B) You're putting what amounts to an oversized, under-armed PD cruiser in the center of a fleet? One would think it wiser to put it nearer to the edge, where it can actually do some good.

OOC: you seem to pick and choose don't you? RL tech in MT NS is about 15 years outdated. While Fusion reactors are normally considered upper PMT(2050)

We are using miniaturized versions of the Fusion reactors currently being experimented with in London. They are completely within the range of MT.

Wait. If you're using fusion reactors (which should be far more massive than equivalent fission generators anywhere but PMT. Or possible at all, for that matter), why are you still using THAADs and THEL? Especially considering that THEL is a chemical laser...


A) Then your fleet can't maneuver at any sort of speed.
B) You're putting what amounts to an oversized, under-armed PD cruiser in the center of a fleet? One would think it wiser to put it nearer to the edge, where it can actually do some good.

No, the British have been able to produce a Fusion Reactor. And, though it is bulky, it provides more power than an equivalent Fission Reactor.

And, while the ship would do more good on the outer edges of the fleet, the THAAD system has great range, not to mention that we are modifying a set of Cruisers and Destroyers for THAAD missile systems.

Also, while the THEL is a Chemical Laser, it is an advanced Chemical Laser, with more power than people think. All it takes to destroy a plane is the super-heating of the Plane's fuel tanks.

OOC:Eh no they haven't at least not one that is of any use. The UK has had experiment fusion reactors since the 1930s but none of them have produced any kind of usable output. Perhaps what you are reffering to is the funding recently granted to begin biulding a new experimental alser reactor which should be ready in about 7-10 years time. IF it works (and it is still a big IF) then to produce a viable comerical version would liekly take another 10-15years at which point they still aren't goign to be anywhere near "portable".

OOC:Eh no they haven't at least not one that is of any use. The UK has had experiment fusion reactors since the 1930s but none of them have produced any kind of usable output. Perhaps what you are reffering to is the funding recently granted to begin biulding a new experimental alser reactor which should be ready in about 7-10 years time. IF it works (and it is still a big IF) then to produce a viable comerical version would liekly take another 10-15years at which point they still aren't goign to be anywhere near "portable".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_European_Torus

Like I said, much smaller version of the system

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Well you did say London where as JET is in Oxford...

As it stands no fusion reactor is capable of even achiveing a power output that matches the amount of power put in, they belive 5-10x the input might be generated eventually but not within the next 10-15 years.

Basically you are stuck with fission reactors if you want to be modern tech. Fussion is fine in PMT as would decent solid state lasers be.

No, the British have been able to produce a Fusion Reactor. And, though it is bulky, it provides more power than an equivalent Fission Reactor.
...No, while bulky, it produces energy at a loss. JET's only rated at 16 MW of thermal energy, compared to an A4W's 208 electrical energy. Once you figure in an efficiency of about .25, you're only getting 4 MW out of the tokamak (for less than a second at that), and putting rather a lot more power to actually get the thing to work (roughly 23 MW, I believe). Reducing the size of a JET-type reactor is only going to reduce the amount of power you're getting out of it, as you're shrinking the reaction chamber.

Also, while the THEL is a Chemical Laser, it is an advanced Chemical Laser, with more power than people think. All it takes to destroy a plane is the super-heating of the Plane's fuel tanks.
THEL is made to take down short range WWII era rockets and artillery shells. Against a modern aircraft, which is a hundred times larger, coated in layers of thermal protection, and maneuvering unpredictably, THEL is going to be next to useless. Even against a modern AShM, it's going to have issues, due to high speed, thermal insulation, maneuvering, and the inability to get the beam to linger on one point for long enough to achieve a kill.

And this doesn't really address the question of why you have a fusion generator hooked up to a chemical laser.