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OOC: Please note! This is Modern Tech. Please no deep PMT/FT aircraft.
IC:
$1 Trillion Grant in Aerial Competition
Multirole Stealth Fighter/Bomber

ViZion is looking to give a $1 trillion grant to the company that, within the next three (RL) weeks, submits, builds, and successfully tests the best aerial multirole stealth fighter/bomber.

Entry Requirements:
Production Rights: Two companies - ViZion World Corporation and the company that submits their aircraft - will hold production rights to the aircrafts entered. NO company or nation will be allowed to sell off or give up the production rights of entered aircrafts until July 30th, 2008 (RL).
Do Not Copy Another Aircraft Already on the Market: Should it be found you have copied another companies aircraft, you will be disqualified and will be required to pay $150 billion to the company you have infringed upon.
No Garantees Unless Winner: You are not garanteed anything unless you win. However, that is not to say your product is no good, and you may end up getting massive press on your aircraft through this.
Submitting Your Entry: Once you're ready, Telegram me and let me know. You can then send me information after I give you the email to send to.
Deadline: Sunday December 16th, 2007 (RL)

Beyond that, you're free to build the best aircraft you can! There will be a panel of judges to determine which aircraft is the best. After all points are determined, the company who produces the winning aircraft will receive this $1 trillian grant.

Regardless of winning or loosing, however, chances are, if you've built an excellent stealthy multirole fighter/bombers, there's no doubts this will draw tons of attention and press to your new aircraft for purchases.

Also, if you are interested in entering this competition, please post your plans for entering so as to help keep track!

Companies Entered (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13238922&posted=1#post13238922)

REMEMBER! The deadline is on Sunday, December 16th, 2007 Real Time!

We will be watching this as it progresses to see what aircrafts we may purchase for our airforce.

Companies Entered
None Yet
Company - Nation

OOC:

I take graphs from existing aircraft and add my own, due to lack of graphic capability. Hope this is approved?

IC:

http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/myst05.gif
Image from FAS.org from the Aurora Project. Most suitable design I found, and where I get most of my designs anyway

Attention
Anagonian Defense Aerospace Industries

ADAI will take this opportunity to expose a SECRET-X project that has been left to dust for a while now. Considering the design proposition, ADAI will take the challenge to design, construct, and assemble with success the XFB-01 Starscream Advanced Stealth Platform, or ASP. The design concept stages are underway and will involve the length, height, and width of the aircraft with consideration on MACH speeds to airframe resistance. Stealth considerations will be phase-two, with research studies already underway for another project that has yet to be completed. The third stage will involve a flight model project for live tests and combat actions. The fifth stage will be the final product and assumed protocol to your design specifications.

As of now we have considered an aircraft about Forty feet in length, sixty feet in width, and a height of fifteen feet for bomb space. These specifications are expected to change with computer simulations to airspeed and MACH speed stresses. This aircraft will be capable of Fighter activities, to a limit, but projected to have extreme use as a long-range stealth bomber. Design specifications will meet your requirements per your advise.

Area-X2, in an unknown location, will be creating the airframe and stealth technology to fit in both computer simulations and live testing to current Modern Tech radar, which shouldn't be too difficult. If you have any objections, inform us so we may withdrawal and consider this airframe for our own uses.

Thank you,
Robert Connistey
Chief of Military Experimental Activities

From: Ulan Fann
To: Government of Vizion

Ulan Fann would like to take up the challenge to produce an Aircraft for your country.

Signed, Ulan Fann
CEO of Ulann Fan Aeronautical Design Co.

OOC: Anagonia, that's acceptable, I just dont want people completely copying an F-22 or another persons work, maybe tweaking it a little, and then submitting - the physical design, if you're not that graphically-oriented, is fine, but the actual plane itself isn't. That's unfair to people doing their own work, as well as to ViZion with $1 trillion in hand for the winner...
IC:
Anagonia and Kansiov, we look forward to seeing both of your aircrafts when they're completely!

OOC: Anagonia, that's acceptable, I just dont want people completely copying an F-22 or another persons work, maybe tweaking it a little, and then submitting - the physical design, if you're not that graphically-oriented, is fine, but the actual plane itself isn't. That's unfair to people doing their own work, as well as to ViZion with $1 trillion in hand for the winner...
IC:
Anagonia and Kansiov, we look forward to seeing both of your aircrafts when they're completely!

OOC:

Understandable. The design presented is over eighty-feet in length and so forth. I plan on making a miniature with Anagonian products in it. Custom Stealth Research, and so forth. In the end I expect to loose, of course, considering the other NS players who can way outdo me. But I'll give it my best shot! I love modding stuff.

IC:

Response

We thank you and look forward to completing this design. If not for our united use, then our uses.

Thank you,
Robert Connistey
Chief of Military Experimental Activities

End

OOC:

Understandable. The design presented is over eighty-feet in length and so forth. I plan on making a miniature with Anagonian products in it. Custom Stealth Research, and so forth. In the end I expect to loose, of course, considering the other NS players who can way outdo me. But I'll give it my best shot! I love modding stuff.

IC:

Response

We thank you and look forward to completing this design. If not for our united use, then our uses.

Thank you,
Robert Connistey
Chief of Military Experimental Activities

End
OOC: heh, hey, even if you loose, 2 nice things: One is you get the publicitity and some possible buyers assuming it's good and two is just havin some fun on the creative side...
IC:
Robert Connistey,

I am sure it will be of usage to both of our nations should it be a quality product - and we are sure it will be. Good luck!

President Kilo

OOC:

Well, you might have come in the right time, I'm working on the F-5X project now. A "slight" change of F-5/F-20, you've perhaps seen the talks on the /d/. The result would be a light fighter.
Are you interested? I planned it for Jan 2008, but can speed up a little, maybe.
OOC: Why not? Assuming "slight" is in quote for a reason - heh - go ahead and enter if it you've got the time to finish it by Nov 16th... :)

OOC:

Well, you might have come in the right time, I'm working on the F-5X project now. A "slight" change of F-5/F-20, you've perhaps seen the talks on the /d/. The result would be a light fighter.
Are you interested? I planned it for Jan 2008, but can speed up a little, maybe.

OOC:
Well, it will still weigh within 5000-8000kg empty, and still fly within Mach 2.2. That's where the visible heritage will end, small size will be used to full advantage.
So would such light fighter be interesting, or are you looking towards something heavy?


That still won't be my final domestic version, as that is not something that can be done in a month, but then I guess you aren't going to build the whole hydrogen supply logistics for one fighter - improvements in my later version will come from using LH2. Most other features will be present in the jet-fuel variant as well.

After a few days of talks, the small aerospace company, Advanced Aerospace, has decided to enter into this high-stakes competition in its first forte of military aerospace, pinning its military aircraft hopes on a single plane that could help to determine the future of air superiority.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c197/USCMC/nationstates/SequoiaSAE.jpg

Sequoia Aerospace Systems official sales solicitation

SAe Systems LLC formally responds to the Request for Information issued by the ViZionian government and announces its intention to enter our F-26A Tempest air domination fighter into the ViZionian Multirole Stealth Fighter/Bomber competition.

UPDATE
Anagonian Defense Aerospace Industries

So far tests have gone...less than satisfactory. The XFB-01 Starscream design has shown promise in the simulation area. Already a model for use in the artificial environments has been decided and approved. Area-X2, if you recall in our last communication as being the research field, has taken the mantel of constructing a very early-stage flight model for use. This flight model has suffered catastrophic failures so many times we have had to go back and rework our designs.

It is a sad note to tell you that so far we have had little to no success in the Engine designs. While we decided to go with a new engine, much like the Air-Breathing Scramjet Engines used by advanced Air Forces today. For operational purposes, we have purposed an unmanned as well as manned design, with the manned being a toned-down version of the Scramjet.

So far, with preliminary construction on the XJE-SuperJet engine going smoothly, simulated tests show a next-to-perfect replica of the Scramjet propulsion's. But these are only tests, and therefore can't be used to prove anything. Area-X2 has taken the responsibility to construct and mount the new XJE-SuperJet Engine onto a test model so we can experiment and abuse the new design to its limit. We have decided this will be the best way to go until we can figure out why so many catastrophic failures have been happening to the Starscream airframe.

Sincerely,
Robert Connistey
Chief of Military Experimental Activities

The Aeronautics division of the Pontus Corporation of Elgregia will submit plans for your tender. We will offer two variants of the Y-9 Eliminator. One will be modified for use on aircraft carriers.

Component tests are already underway at the Elgregian homeland and at the Jules Verne Space Center on Springfield Island. We can offer split site production to facilitate ease of deployment rapidly to various theaters of operation.

We will forward diagrams before the closing date but we can tell you in the meantime that the following features will be available:

computerisation: fibre optic cabling for enhanced in aircraft data transfer; data host function and GBic transfer to other aerial platforms; mini-AWACS function; "glass cockpit" instrumentation
airframe/engines:100% composite material; 0% radar profile; strengthened leading edge root extensions; forward-swept swings and canards on carrier version; variable geometry intakes and exhausts for STOL and cobra maneuvers; supercruise; 2 x 42000lb turbofans
weaponry:recessed guns behind trapdoors fore and aft using a bonded propellant igniting away from the plane to reduce heat emissions; recessed AAMs (of your choosing)

We look forward to supplying you with our diagrams

We would like to direct you to the diagrams of our proposed fighter.

Main view:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd314/Elgregia/Eliminator_stol.gif

Side view:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd314/Elgregia/Eliminator_side.gif

As you can see, it is an unusual design with swept forward wings and canards.
We have decided to merge the land-based and carrier versions into one STOL vehicle with the following characteristics:

computerisation: fibre optic cabling for enhanced in aircraft data transfer; data host function and GBic transfer to other aerial platforms; mini-AWACS function; "glass cockpit" instrumentation

airframe/engines:100% composite material; 0% radar profile; strengthened leading edge root extensions; forward-swept swings and canards on carrier version; variable geometry intakes and exhausts for STOL and cobra maneuvers; supercruise; 2 x 42000lb turbofans

weaponry:recessed guns behind trapdoors fore and aft using a bonded propellant igniting away from the plane to reduce heat emissions; recessed AAMs (of your choosing)

We can of course begin manufacturing immediately.

Yours,

Ministry of Commerce,
Federation of Elgregia

Red Star Heavy Industries
TO: ViZion
FR: Marcus Steele, Dir. Research and Development Div.
RE: Fighter/bomber multirole

>As head of Research and Development for Red Star, I would like to inquire as to whether a variant of an existing craft would be suitable for bid. We are currently working on such a multirole variant of our SF-01 Sleipnir aerospace fighter, which boasts trans-atmospheric capablities along with an aceptable payload and advanced avionics suite. Fuel usage is completely unnecessary as the fighter is powered by two Red Star TJ-2000/FW thermonuclear engines. We look forward to a speedy and positive response.
>

OOC: the fighter in question is an aerospace fighter, which means it also works in space. will this be a problem considering its MT, or do i just omit that part from my variant?

Red Star Heavy Industries
TO: ViZion
FR: Marcus Steele, Dir. Research and Development Div.
RE: Fighter/bomber multirole

>As head of Research and Development for Red Star, I would like to inquire as to whether a variant of an existing craft would be suitable for bid. We are currently working on such a multirole variant of our SF-01 Sleipnir aerospace fighter, which boasts trans-atmospheric capablities along with an aceptable payload and advanced avionics suite. Fuel usage is completely unnecessary as the fighter is powered by two Red Star TJ-2000/FW thermonuclear engines. We look forward to a speedy and positive response.
>

OOC: the fighter in question is an aerospace fighter, which means it also works in space. will this be a problem considering its MT, or do i just omit that part from my variant?
OOC: The space part is iffy, I'd go without it. I'll be asking for help from someone in the Draftroom to judge this with me, so that might be to much.
IC:
So long as you can get it to us tonight, we will consider it.

OOC: sorry, w/ work, I probably couldn't work on it and have it ready in a day...sorry

Fuel usage is completely unnecessary as the fighter is powered by two Red Star TJ-2000/FW thermonuclear engines.

LOL.

O_o, nuclear engines have been around since the '50s...what's wrong w/ that?

OOC: well, i found my plans, so i'll post them up in the hopes i can still bid (still working on the image, though)

VX-01 [Unnamed] Multirole Fighter
Wingspan: 16.0 m
Length: 18.2 m
Height: 6.5 m
Weight (w/o load): 25,000 kg
Engines: 2 Red Star TJ-2000/FW thermonuclear afterburning engines (40,000 lbst.) Vertically thrust-vectoring to 20 degrees @ a speed of 40 degrees a second.
Service Ceiling: 65,000 ft.
Max Speed (at height): 1450 knots
Max Speed (ASL): 800 knots
Range: Limit of pilot's endurance/unlimited
Number of hardpoints: 14: 2 wingtip; 6 underwing; 6 conformal fuselage; Plus four in internal bay
Armament: 1 x .30 five-barrel rotary cannon
Air-to-air: AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-120 Slammer, AIM-132 ASRAAM
Air-to-ground: AGM-84E SLAM Harpoon, RGM-165 LASM, JDAM, SOD (Stand-off Dispenser), SFFS

Comments: Developed initially as a carrier-based air-superiority fighter, the aerodynamics and flight characteristics made it a prime candidate for multirole purposes. The carrier variant (SF-01) boasts collapsible wings and a reinforced undercarriage. The Air Force variant (SF-01A) retains 70% of the parts of the 01, cutting down production costs. Both utilize an ergonomically designed cockpit and an avionics suite capable of tracking up to twelve targets at once, air and land co-currently. Computer systems connected to the pilot's helmet allows him/her to track targets outside the targetting cone of the fighter's system (visual acquisition). The VX contains all these features, with special recognition given to the modern need for ground-support roles.

OOC: again, i'll try to post the photo soon, and i hope this isn't posted too late i'll also answer any other questions this post didn't answer.

Have you made a determination ViZion?

O_o, nuclear engines have been around since the '50s...what's wrong w/ that?

OOC: On planes? Srsly? And anyway, they still need uranium fuel. Don't even say nuclear fusion, because that needs hydrogen and also won't be developed until PMT at least in RL...

I have only received 2 TG's - which was stated in the main post.

I ask that by Saturday night, I receive a TG w/ specs (and links to pics if you have them) to everyone who wants to be considered.

OOC: On planes? Srsly? And anyway, they still need uranium fuel. Don't even say nuclear fusion, because that needs hydrogen and also won't be developed until PMT at least in RL...

yes, seriously. except the concept wasn't fully developed because of issues of shrinking the hardware to fit onto a fighter platform. and it's not fusion, but fission, because fusion has yet to be achieved (except in the case of a hydrogen bomb). and i guess i missed the bid deadline, so this is pretty much a moot argument...

OOC: How about everyone who wants their plans graded just TG me so I know who and what to grade. Thanks. :)