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The Echoese Liberation: (OOC|Sign-up Thread)

Nova Pictavia
20-11-2007, 01:42
Abstract|Preamble:
This is the official OOC and Application thread for the IC thread entitled "Chasing Echoes" (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543595), which is a follow-on from the former Akimonadi declaration. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13229210&postcount=1) All OOC complaints and requests for entry into the RP should be directed here or via Telegram to myself or Akimonad, nowhere else. It should also be noted that there is a strong no OOC in the IC thread policy. No exceptions.

Rules of Engagement:
When regarding a dispute between a new member of the RP and an existing, the word of either Akimonad, Kirav, The Far Echo Islands or myself are final, with the only exception being an NS Moderator of course.
Although this is an OOC thread, it is directed only at OOC chatter for the relating conflict. No past arguments are permitted in this thread, take 'em out via a Mod or Telegrams please.
Those wishing to enter on behalf of an ally, be it QC, UC, CN or CAP et cetera, must still apply for entry here.

The Story so far:

The Far Echo Islands were ceded to Akimonad during the Echoese War of Northern Aggression.
Akimonadi occupation forces increase dramatically.
Key Echoese law is repealed by the Akimonadi.
The UC views Akimonadi-occupied Echo as a threat.
Violent protests spark the uprising of the insurgency.
The insurgency is brutally countered by Akimonadi forces.
The UC declares war.
The city of Augusta Nova is retaken by the insurgency.
UC-Akimonadi fleets clash.


Occupation Forces:
The Autocratic Federated Empire of Akimonad

Liberation Forces:
The Confederate States of The Far Echo Islands
The Kiravian Empire
The Pictish Imperium
The United Socialist States of Yanitaria
The Far Echo Islands
20-11-2007, 01:58
OOC: I have made a new map. With Coloruz and elevations, do not use the old map. I will have the new one up in minutes. Also, I know my first post is crap, but I need my leaders back in place, also Aki has a grudge against Davis for something I don’t know.

NEW MAPS:
Basic Political:
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/The_Far_Echo_Islands/Maps/tfeimappoli2sm.png
Basic Geographic:
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/The_Far_Echo_Islands/Maps/tfeimapgeo3sm.png
Cazelia
20-11-2007, 02:01
May I join on the Liberation Forces?
Vetalia
20-11-2007, 02:05
OOC: I occupy one of those islands, Australis or Dominiona I believe. My islands will be allied with the Akimonad occupation forces, of course.
Zoingo
20-11-2007, 02:06
I want to as well, allies need to stick together.
Stoklomolvi
20-11-2007, 02:08
I want to go on Liberation Forces as well; Zoingo-Beatus-Stoklomolvi alliance binds us to do so :p.
Lord Sumguy
20-11-2007, 02:08
OOC: I occupy one of those islands, Australis or Dominiona I believe. My islands will be allied with the Akimonad occupation forces, of course.

OOC: understandable, although I think you are forbidden by the GOOD charter to engage in warfare against members of any of the alliances that make up GOOD and vice-versa, at least officialy and openly.
Nova Pictavia
20-11-2007, 02:09
*Update*

Cazelia: What are your justifications for joining the war? Besides which i sincerely doubt you would be able to enter, considering that right now the tables are already turned against Aki. Nevertheless, he may say different...

Echo: Where about are your islands situated? (For example Pictavia is at the mouth of the Mediterranean)

Akimonad: Lord Sumguy and Yanitaria, both of whom have decent and valid IC reasons, also wish to join the liberation forces.

Everyone Else: Decisions will be made pending Akimonad's opinions.
The Far Echo Islands
20-11-2007, 02:21
Imagine the North Atlantic, but no Greenland, Seahorse is about the same place a Nuuk, and Kalashnikov is about the same as Havana, but a little more east.
Akimonad
20-11-2007, 02:24
I have approved Yanitaria for now. And that will have to be all (for now at least, don't panic) for the Liberators side, unless I get another ally, which I'm certainly NOT soliciting for.

That being said, I'm not insulting or being mean to any of you others by rejecting you. It's just that the tables need to be leveled. We're trying to improve on the many mistakes of the *ahem* last war.

My goal for now is to do some non-combat prelude. We can do some failed bargaining or whatever, or I might surprise you. ;)

As another requirement: You MUST compose a list of your forces (an ORBAT or OoB) and post it here. We'd like to know what everyone has and whether or not it's, shall we say, feasible for your nation. Or something like that. Don't bring a million planes in here, it's not going to happen. ;)
Akimonad
20-11-2007, 02:26
Also, Vetalia, were you planning on actually RPing? Because I think we were planning to leave your island alone, given your present situation with Crimmond.
Nova Pictavia
20-11-2007, 02:28
See "Military" in my sig for some basics. ORBAT will come before the combat erupts obviously. Aki: Do you want Vetalia included on your side just in case?
Akimonad
20-11-2007, 02:31
Aki: Do you want Vetalia included on your side just in case?

No, not until I have a definite answer.

Yo CFEI: Please change those map pictures to URL links as they are breaking the board. Thanks and whatnot.
Stoklomolvi
20-11-2007, 02:31
Actually, I'm not going to join. Just too many threads to look over in one day, and I'm too lazy :p.
Nova Pictavia
20-11-2007, 02:35
Aki: Seconded. Scroll bars have a tenancy to make me freak out and twitch a little. Incidentally, where is the Akimonadi homeland?

Kirav & Yani: Same goes, just wondering where your homelands are based too.

Stok: (You don't know how hard it was for me to resist 'Stocky' there) Understood. You are sill more than welcome in the "Only the dead..." thread.
Akimonad
20-11-2007, 02:37
Aki: Seconded. Scroll bars have a tenancy to make me freak out and twitch a little. Incidentally, where is the Akimonadi homeland?

It's around about the same latitude as the Falklands, but in the Pacific. If that makes sense. I need to upload my new map.
Zoingo
20-11-2007, 02:42
I know that I am not approved yet, but if I am, I only plan to have a small peacekeeping force over there in helping with the liberation

Approximate #'s

75,000 troops
3,500 tanks
150 Jet Fighters
25 ship fleet made up of:
5 Battleships
10 Destroyers
7 Submarines
3 Cruisers
Nova Pictavia
20-11-2007, 02:45
Sorry, but its unlikely anyone will be joining us until the tables look a little fairer for Akimonad.
Zoingo
20-11-2007, 02:54
Sorry, but its unlikely anyone will be joining us until the tables look a little fairer for Akimonad.

That is my point, Im just presenting the things nessecary ahead of time so that I won't have to do it later IF im approved when the tables are better for him.
Jagada
20-11-2007, 02:57
Howdy, and before you ask, no Jagada won't be joining. Its mainly my voice on the forums since well ... Jagada sucks. Anyway, I have recently created a nation called Stormic, and it won't be able to post on the forums since I never got that 'approval' e-mail. Besides, I believe new nations have to wait for a mod to approve of their first ten posts before they can go on their own.

Thus, I'd like to simply use Jagada to post for now, if thats alright.

Valid In-Character reasons are simple but not exactly original. Stormic has been a country isolated for centuries, its never fought a 'real' war, save against bandits and rebels from time to time, but nothing major. Stormic itself is more or less a nation-size verison of modern Southern USA, and its almost sterotypical of it too -- with beer drinking, hick-ish ideas, redneck attitudes and such. This isn't some half-baked nation either, hopfully my ideas for it will kick off sooner or later.

My IC reason is simple, Stormics love a good fight, nothing but a good 'slobber-knocker' will do for them. Stormic is located roughly 300 miles off the modern day coast of South Carolina, so its probably close to this conflict. Stormic would have heard about how badly outnumbered Akimonad was and decided to lend some support. All Stormic would probably provide, tops, is 50,000 troops with armor and logistical support, maybe some aircraft too, but thats it.

This means that Stormic forces could guard maybe one of the island chains, or maybe just one of the big islands, relieving Akimonadi forces to help defend other areas. Also, even though Stormic hasn't been in a war, that doesn't mean they will roll over for the first guy in a camo outfit with an assault rifle. Life in Stormic is rather laborous. Imagine the southern boy who never goes to school, and works in a steel mill his whole life -- thats the basic lifestyle of Stormic people. Very hick-ish, like I said. Doesn't mean they are stupid either, just smart in a different way.

Either way, the idea is out there and if Akimonadi looses, I'd rather no one try to just slam me with their 1,000,000 man armies. Once I loose in the Echo Isles, I'll probably withdrawl. Gives me some RP experiance, expands my story on Stormic, relieves Akimonad to some degree also.

To help ensure everything goes smoothly -- by the time this RP gets really underway Stormic will probably be about 10 mil pop, so for the RPs sake, can we say its 10 mil now and keep it at that until the end of the RP?
The Far Echo Islands
20-11-2007, 03:12
Doesn't mean they are stupid either, just smart in a different way.

OMG, one of the best quotes evar!

as for your entry, I'll think about it and confer with my fellow rpers in this matter.

and I shrunk the maps, if you cannot read these, the larger versions are still in my fact book. (click the link that says 'The Confederate States of the Echo Islands' [aka the first one] and it will take you there.]
Kirav
20-11-2007, 03:21
Aki: Seconded. Scroll bars have a tenancy to make me freak out and twitch a little. Incidentally, where is the Akimonadi homeland?

Kirav & Yani: Same goes, just wondering where your homelands are based too.

Stok: (You don't know how hard it was for me to resist 'Stocky' there) Understood. You are sill more than welcome in the "Only the dead..." thread.

Kirav Proper is quite far to the East, but the New Harbour Colony, Mesoarbourea, Sattelia Naval Colony, Alåvora, and Bionesia are much closer, longitudally, to the FEI.
Vetalia
20-11-2007, 03:56
OOC: understandable, although I think you are forbidden by the GOOD charter to engage in warfare against members of any of the alliances that make up GOOD and vice-versa, at least officialy and openly.

OOC: True. We'd only defend our own island and prevent any insurgents from operating there.
Akimonad
20-11-2007, 12:36
-snip-

Hmm. I suppose this could be okay.

However, with only an increase on my side of one member, small at that, I don't think I can allow more members on NP's team.
Nova Pictavia
20-11-2007, 14:17
I feel a little uncomfortable at Stormic's IC reasons, but perhaps it could be a mercenary army hired by Akimonad or some such? Just to give the RP some more realism and credibility rather than an excuse for Rp experience. Otherwise, that's fine to me.
Continuing on the theme of national background, what race would the Akimonadi be descended from?
Akimonad
20-11-2007, 21:05
I feel a little uncomfortable at Stormic's IC reasons, but perhaps it could be a mercenary army hired by Akimonad or some such? Just to give the RP some more realism and credibility rather than an excuse for Rp experience. Otherwise, that's fine to me.
Continuing on the theme of national background, what race would the Akimonadi be descended from?

Hmm. I likely wouldn't hire mercenaries ICly. having considered that, I think I'll reverse my decision. I wasn't really hoping to use this RP to get experience for anyone.

Also, Akimonadi are Anglo-Saxon with some Hispanic tossed in.
Dushkun
20-11-2007, 21:34
Mind if I joined this RP as it seems pretty much something I'd love to get into
Nova Pictavia
20-11-2007, 21:40
You'll need IC reasons for joining the war, declare which side you'd support and then it would have to be a joint decision between Akimonad and myself. Since the occupying forces are a little overstretched, in reality it would be Aki's decision, and we're making entry pretty tight. Its nothing personal at all, we've just chosen to have very tight control on the RP so it goes smoothly.
Dushkun
20-11-2007, 22:26
My IC reasons would be to occupy what is known as the Frio Islands and work our way to fortifying it as a way to lead to conquest of the Echo Island chain so in doing so we would be aiding the occupying forces.

The Dushkun armed forces have always sought a real challenge when it comes to war, for years the people have watched by and lived an existence that is peaceful whilst its military has seen itseld as redundant yet a fierce fighting force that has no future.

Many Dushkunian soldiers deserted the ranks of the military and became mercenaries of the highest calibre but when news of war finally reached the shored of the Grand Duchy it saw a chance to finally find the fight it had always yearned for.


so we request to be part of the occupying forces. if approved theseare the units the grand duchy shall send

100000 soldiers
200 F22 Raptorjets
200 F16 Raptor jets

500 tanks
10 battleships
4 aircraft carriers
4 destroyers
2 Submarines

The Dushkunian armed forces are not afraid of heading into war and believe pressing a button a thousand miles away is a cowards way of winning wars.
The World Soviet Party
20-11-2007, 23:24
I'll send some guns to the Echoese rebels (if any), do not expect much, but it'll be a nice contribution to the war effort.

I wont get involved myself.

One last comment, the weapons will have no factory markings nor serial numbers, thus, they will be virtually untrackable.
Nova Pictavia
20-11-2007, 23:24
Hmmm... I like the idea of dodgey arms-dealings and so-forth. You have my support, but will need Akimonad's too for the go-ahead.
Akimonad
21-11-2007, 00:02
I suppose it'd be fine, TWSP, but only arms. Nothing larger than, say, an assault rifle. I'm up to my waist in rebels as it is.
The World Soviet Party
21-11-2007, 00:13
I suppose it'd be fine, TWSP, but only arms. Nothing larger than, say, an assault rifle. I'm up to my waist in rebels as it is.

Sure, I'm not sending anything bigger than an RPG anyways, too costy, not to mention that I have to handle my own war as of the moment.

EDIT

Of course, I'll wait until something happens that catches the atention of my goverment.
Red Tide2
21-11-2007, 03:21
I am asking too intervene on the side of Akimond, but if I am accepted, dont put me up quite yet. I have other IC commitments.
The Far Echo Islands
21-11-2007, 05:00
I am asking too intervene on the side of Akimond, but if I am accepted, dont put me up quite yet. I have other IC commitments.

It's just that, even with out Aki, you could probably take us all on and win, with Aki, you dominate beyond comprehension, I'm not opposed to you making coments, but being an '04 nation is like being a giant fly swatter that can squash many a nation.
Anagonia
21-11-2007, 05:05
I'd like permission to intervene on behalf of the Echo People later on. As of yet I have something going on right now with another IC commitment(s) and cannot, in all due respect to NS Game Law, commit such forces as of yet.
Nova Pictavia
21-11-2007, 13:07
I am asking too intervene on the side of Akimond, but if I am accepted, dont put me up quite yet. I have other IC commitments.

The only time I RP'd with you was when you pressed so hard to be part of the Utopian Wars, then you left one post launching a bombardment and nothing else as I tried to respond... This isn't a personal dig at you or anything, I just was very frustrated having a city wiped off the map without being able to respond ICly to it. Anyway, since this is my only IC experience of you, I am a little wary.

Besides that (because you may still be joining in), what would your IC reasons for joining the conflict be, as we're keeping it really tight on that front.
Akimonad
21-11-2007, 23:28
Alright, some clarification needed.

They were not perfect weapons, not with skeleton crews and a few untrained rebels operating them, but they were big weapons. They proceeded to fire 20 18 inch rounds into the Akimonadi base to ensure that it was gone forever. They also detected the incoming AC-130 and fired 10 Sea Sparrow missiles at it which would surly take it down.

Both unlikely, given I'd imagined the base as being rather inland. Also the AC-130s would around that same area, and would probably be out of range of ESSMs, given their shortish range. But whatever, I can handle it.

Waters off of the Echo Islands

The 11th fleet neared the CEFI nautical border. The invasion was imminent.

Err, not so fast. Ships don't zip across the ocean. And besides that, I haven't been able to RP any defense or anything yet. :P

Also, in general, please slow down a tad. It's hard for me to keep up. :P
The Far Echo Islands
21-11-2007, 23:39
Alright, some clarification needed.



Both unlikely, given I'd imagined the base as being rather inland. Also the AC-130s would around that same area, and would probably be out of range of ESSMs, given their shortish range. But whatever, I can handle it.


Well, how much inland, I'm not sure of the range of 18 inch shells, but I belive it is something in the likes of 8 miles or so. As for the ESSMs, the AC-130 is coming to fight the rebels, so it would have to go through out the city as the rebels are spread all thru the city. And the city come right up to the coast, where the ships are, so they would have waited till it did come in range as it eventually would have had to if it was gona kill rebels, then they'd have shot at it.


Err, not so fast. Ships don't zip across the ocean. And besides that, I haven't been able to RP any defense or anything yet. :P

Also, in general, please slow down a tad. It's hard for me to keep up. :P

The Sattelitia (sp) colony, is rather close to me, from what I understand, about a thousand miles or less.

Also, what kind of control are you trying to assert over my formal military? Like just a guard here, a general here, or are you trying to take the whole thing over, executing my generals, officers, etc or something in the middle of those two?
Akimonad
21-11-2007, 23:58
Well, how much inland, I'm not sure of the range of 18 inch shells, but I belive it is something in the likes of 8 miles or so. As for the ESSMs, the AC-130 is coming to fight the rebels, so it would have to go through out the city as the rebels are spread all thru the city. And the city come right up to the coast, where the ships are, so they would have waited till it did come in range as it eventually would have had to if it was gona kill rebels, then they'd have shot at it.

Well, the base would be on the eastern fringe of the city. So that depends on how big the city is.

And also, the AC-130 went to the Comms Tower, wherever that is. I imagined it being close to the base. (Maybe I missed something.)

The Sattelitia (sp) colony, is rather close to me, from what I understand, about a thousand miles or less.

Also, what kind of control are you trying to assert over my formal military? Like just a guard here, a general here, or are you trying to take the whole thing over, executing my generals, officers, etc or something in the middle of those two?

Nevertheless, I still need to mount a defense, so lets compromise and put that at the fringe of the Economic Exculsion Zone, about 150 nm out.

And I've not exerted control yet, though I may try to federalize the forces soon. But that could prove troublesome. We'll see.

IC post later, please don't post anything further until then.
The Far Echo Islands
22-11-2007, 00:05
Well, the base would be on the eastern fringe of the city. So that depends on how big the city is.

And also, the AC-130 went to the Comms Tower, wherever that is. I imagined it being close to the base. (Maybe I missed something.)


I was talking about the AC-130 in Neo Savannah, not the one in Augusta Nova. and the base in Neo Savannah as well.

Also, I will try to make a city map of Dolphinea, Neo Savannah and Augusta Nova within the next few days.


Nevertheless, I still need to mount a defense, so lets compromise and put that at the fringe of the Economic Exculsion Zone, about 150 nm out.


I can't call on that, they're Kirav's ships, but sound reasonable to me.


And I've not exerted control yet, though I may try to federalize the forces soon. But that could prove troublesome. We'll see.

IC post later, please don't post anything further until then.

Good to know.
Kirav
22-11-2007, 00:11
Like FEI said, Sattelia is pretty close, it's original purpose was to provide quick access to the islands after the Bloody Sunday War.

But nonetheless, I'll hold them off and let you prepare a defence. I wasn't planning on preforming the actual attack until NP made his incursion to begin with. I need to be a bit clearer like that. But this is what this rp's about, right? Getting experience. I like it.
Akimonad
22-11-2007, 13:48
I was talking about the AC-130 in Neo Savannah, not the one in Augusta Nova. and the base in Neo Savannah as well.

Those are in Agusta Nova, not Neo Savannah.
Yanitaria
22-11-2007, 14:17
OOC: ACK! I am so late to the party! I was waiting for a TG from Aki, and didn't realize this was happening.

So I guess my excuse is that during this time, my Surface Group 1 (check my military thread) was moving into position.

Btw, in reference to an earlier question, I always imagined Yanitaria being on the Black Sea.
Nova Pictavia
22-11-2007, 18:19
Alrighty, after two days of not sleeping and then a mega lie-in (Go Uni Exams, gotta love 'em!) i am back. So here's what I'm gunna do:

Continue RP'ing the resistance until it basically just dissolves into a series of RPG and suicide bombings of the occupation force.
Move my fleet further north, as it is currently docked in Asturia.
Finally get round to finishing Halo 3 (Can't see what all the fuss is about, it's a bit shit)
And then jump over to the millions of other threads I've got going on.
Hence, slowing this one down a bit would not be a bad idea at all from my perspective.
Kirav
22-11-2007, 18:34
Indeed. It's a holiday over here, so I've got the exact opposite. Too much time.
Uiri
23-11-2007, 19:40
I know it's relatively late in the war and I'll probably be refused anyways but here goes:

The North Parliamentary Republic of Uiri hereby requests entry into the war from Akimonad as an ally stating that as a member of the CAP, Uiri should help. Whether Akimonad accepts or declines this offer is up to him. Should he acept, I will have an Order of Battle ready of all the possible forces I may call on. I will only be using a fraction of what I list at first and I hope not to need to use more but wars will be wars.
Kirav
23-11-2007, 19:54
I know it's relatively late in the war and I'll probably be refused anyways but here goes:

The North Parliamentary Republic of Uiri hereby requests entry into the war from Akimonad as an ally stating that as a member of the CAP, Uiri should help. Whether Akimonad accepts or declines this offer is up to him. Should he acept, I will have an Order of Battle ready of all the possible forces I may call on. I will only be using a fraction of what I list at first and I hope not to need to use more but wars will be wars.

Uiri, you're in the CN, right?
Uiri
23-11-2007, 20:18
I don't think so. I think I left for the death of Edward Forgul and forgot to re-join. There was controversy in Uiri when Uiri joined and so shall stay out of it in the interest of the leaders not being killed by an angry mob.
Kirav
23-11-2007, 20:35
Ah. Saving one's neck from the mob is always a good political motive.:D
Uiri
23-11-2007, 20:41
Particularly when the mob is the only way the citizens have of removing the leaders from office. Well, that or assassination by a citizen but that's too sixties. :D Anyways, I think we should stop this off-topic chatter on citizen mobs.

EDIT: No need to post to agree.
Akimonad
23-11-2007, 20:59
So it seems a bit more clarification is needed.


Neo Savannah

The CJ-13B Combat Monster’s big guns pummeled Akimonadi emplacements all through the city. The big guns blew away troop emplacements and ripped holes in APC’s and damaged tanks.

In the mean time, the F-23’s tackled any Akimonadi air resistance with extreme force. And below all this was General Kiravik Lassu’s tank force, pushing out the Akimonadi as well as the naval bombardment from the Montana Class ships and the rebel ground freedom fighters. Neo Savannah would become known as the first great rebel stronghold, free from the Akimonadi.

As I've said before, I don't know what you're doing in Neo Savannah, given that it's not been mentioned before. I've only seen fighting in Neo Savannah and Agusta Nova.

Augusta Nova

On this attack, the F-23’s came in first, launching penetrating missiles at known Akimonadi strong points, and then turning to any airborne Akimonadi resistance. Then the Combat Monsters came in, using all their weapons began to destroy the Akimonadi ground forces, firing like crazy until there was nothing more to fire at. Perhaps, Augusta Nova may be known as the second rebel stronghold?

You'd be firing at, well, nothing, considering that I haven't RPed my force doing anything but getting ready. They're still at base and whatnot.

150nm off the coast of CFEI:

Surface Group 1, the largest and most advanced naval group in the USSY sailed towards the Far Echo Islands.

Admiral Alexei Fyodorovich Karamazov, head of the fleet, sent a message to Xavier AFB.

Whoops, try again. You need to RP your fleet leaving port or something. They can't just pop up in the middle of the Economic Exclusion Zone.

So, TFEI and Yanitaria, fix those or whatever and we'll be fine.

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Fleet ORBAT for the fleet that's attacking Kirav's ships (I'll need one from you, Kirav):

2x Davidson-class Super Dreadnaughts
12x Gerald R. Ford-class carriers
36x Wasp-class Amphibious Assault Ships
60x CG(X) Guided Missile Cruisers
54x Zumwalt Destroyers
48x Alfa-class SSNs
48x Type 07 Avisos
40x K130 Corvettes

Planes used will be RL with the exception of the Storke (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13163722&postcount=6).
Kirav
23-11-2007, 21:34
Fleet ORBAT for the fleet that's attacking Kirav's ships (I'll need one from you, Kirav):

2x Davidson-class Super Dreadnaughts
12x Gerald R. Ford-class carriers
36x Wasp-class Amphibious Assault Ships
60x CG(X) Guided Missile Cruisers
54x Zumwalt Destroyers
48x Alfa-class SSNs
48x Type 07 Avisos
40x K130 Corvettes

Planes used will be RL with the exception of the Storke (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13163722&postcount=6).

1 Coscivia-class commandship

1 Hasley-class Super Dreadnought. (From the CN.)

50 Empire-class battleships

50 Pacific-class destroyers

30 Scotia-class Assault Ships/Assault Carriers
- Each Scotia-class ship holds 2 Cypress-class landing ships.

40 Caledonia-class Warships (Kinda like a mix between a frigate & a destroyer)

20 Key-class frigates

15 Wright-class aircraft carriers

20 Subarctic-class missile ships, outfitted with anti-aircraft weaponry.

5 Theta-class submarines

40 Bering-class Guided missile & Torpedo cruisers.

10 Celtic-class corvettes

100,000 crewmen + marines total.

If you'd like me to drop the SD for whatever reason, then that's fine. I don't like to mess with controlling those things.
Akimonad
23-11-2007, 21:57
If you'd like me to drop the SD for whatever reason, then that's fine. I don't like to mess with controlling those things.

Nah, that's okay. I might need links to some of these soon (we'll see) but just make sure you have them. ;)
Kirav
23-11-2007, 22:00
Aye. ;). With the exception of the Subarctic-, Theta-, Bering-, Wright-, and Coscivia-class, they're medium to medium-high in terms of armaments. Medium speed as well. The Corvettes, of course, are faster, and the Scotia-class are slower. It's a realistic fleet, but I just don't have the time nor technical know-how to go into detail yet.
The Far Echo Islands
24-11-2007, 01:00
So it seems a bit more clarification is needed.



As I've said before, I don't know what you're doing in Neo Savannah, given that it's not been mentioned before. I've only seen fighting in Neo Savannah and Agusta Nova.


So, what, you don't have ANY forces in Neo Savannah?


You'd be firing at, well, nothing, considering that I haven't RPed my force doing anything but getting ready. They're still at base and whatnot.

Then, well, consider them shooting at the bases.


Whoops, try again. You need to RP your fleet leaving port or something. They can't just pop up in the middle of the Economic Exclusion Zone.

I see what you're saying, but his message would still be the same, just he contacted me prior to entering my waters. But, ya, he needs to rp the leaving of port, etc.

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Also, I will be using

Pathfinde E Class Dreadnaught (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12003930&postcount=528)

Adélie Class battle ships (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12976073&postcount=1)

JAU-64 Tiger Claw (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12914344&postcount=1)

and maybe

OK-PCL-1 Tomahawk Class (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538357&postcount=1)
Nova Pictavia
24-11-2007, 02:25
Aki: Can you reply to my last IC communiqué, I can't really continue until it has been returned. Ta.
The Far Echo Islands
24-11-2007, 02:29
Also, Aki, what is happening with Delpin? In the airport in general? That seems to have been forgotten.
Kirav
24-11-2007, 02:36
The IC action has halted.
Akimonad
24-11-2007, 03:21
Aki: Can you reply to my last IC communiqué, I can't really continue until it has been returned. Ta.

Done.

Also, Aki, what is happening with Delpin? In the airport in general? That seems to have been forgotten.

Yeah, I'm not going to RP that after all.
Nova Pictavia
24-11-2007, 13:40
"Pictish" (There's no such thing as "Pictavian") ORBAT:

6 x Glacier Class Aircraft Carrier equipped with ACI-73N AQVILA's.
12 x Carthage Class Air Defense Cruiser
30 x Swiftsure Class Destroyer
32 x Lionfish Class Missile Frigate
32 x Champlain Class Frigate
15 x Spirit Class Nuclear Submarine
18 x Emden Class Amphibious Assault Ship
Seasprite Class Air Cushioned Landing Craft (LCAC) Loaded onto Emden's.
Executor Class Combat Logistics Ships for supplies.
10,000 x Marines Commandos
3,000 x Pathfinder Elite
120,000 x Terran Force Soldiers


A smaller fleet than both Kirav's and Aki's, but its all I can drag up. All statistics can be found in the "Military" link in my sig, as everything is fictional.
Yanitaria
25-11-2007, 01:40
Whoops, try again. You need to RP your fleet leaving port or something. They can't just pop up in the middle of the Economic Exclusion Zone.

Try again yourself. Surface Group 1 was already put to see to defend the strait of Gibraltar. Since that ended with no conflict, it would have immediately been sent when a call was put forth by the UC.

The delay between the UC forces arriving and my nation's ships arriving is that my ships would still have been hovering around Italy, en route to France.

ORBAT is as follows:

Dreadnought:
Mishkin Class Omnirole Superdreadnought (1)

Carrier:
Glacier Class (1) (w/ Su-47's)

Cruisers:
Carthage Class(2)

Triara Class (4)

Frigates:
Champlain Class (1)

Lionfish Class (2)

Grevant Class (4)

Destroyers:
Swiftsure Class (2)

Fredora Class (2)

Amphibious Assault Ships:
Emden Class(2)

Corvettes:
Visby Class (4)

Mine Sweeper:
Perigon Class (1)

Marines: 100,000 w/ armour & air support
Nova Pictavia
25-11-2007, 02:23
I see you've seen the light of Hybalt Defense Industries, Yani ;)
Yanitaria
25-11-2007, 06:18
I see you've seen the light of Hybalt Defense Industries, Yani ;)

After realising that RL weapons suck.
The Far Echo Islands
25-11-2007, 15:46
Yeah, I'm not going to RP that after all.

Err, so what, can we assume that he got back to Dolphinea Palace safe and sound or what, and what about Davis whom is with Hyit?
Akimonad
25-11-2007, 19:46
Err, so what, can we assume that he got back to Dolphinea Palace safe and sound or what, and what about Davis whom is with Hyit?

You can send them to Dolphinea Palace, and I can do stuff with both of them there. If you'd like.

IC post a little later.
The Far Echo Islands
25-11-2007, 20:12
You can send them to Dolphinea Palace, and I can do stuff with both of them there. If you'd like.

IC post a little later.

I don't care if you do anything with them, I'll leave weather or not you want to do anything with them up to you, I just need to know where my leaders are, that's all.
Nova Pictavia
26-11-2007, 00:52
Has the RP came to a sort of standstill of late?
Akimonad
26-11-2007, 01:19
Has the RP came to a sort of standstill of late?

Well, it has been Thanksgiving and whatnot.

Anyway, post coming forthwith.
Nova Pictavia
26-11-2007, 01:23
Oh, today? I had no idea obviously. Thanks for the reply.

[EDIT: Waaaaaaaaarp!]
Akimonad
26-11-2007, 01:26
Has the RP came to a sort of standstill of late?

Well, it has been Thanksgiving and whatnot.

Anyway, post coming forthwith.
Akimonad
26-11-2007, 02:40
ORBAT to new fleet (engaging Pictish assets)

1x Hiryu-class Fleet Carrier
2x Davidson-class Super Dreadnaughts
12x Gerald R. Ford-class carriers
36x Wasp-class Amphibious Assault Ships
30x CG(X) Guided Missile Cruisers
54x Zumwalt Destroyers
24x Alfa-class SSNs
48x Type 07 Avisos
20x K130 Corvettes

I'll update this post with the link to the Hiryu when I find it.
Yanitaria
26-11-2007, 03:25
Is there no further debate on whether my fleet should be where it's at? If not, then I'd like to insert my Spec Ops.
Akimonad
26-11-2007, 12:39
Is there no further debate on whether my fleet should be where it's at? If not, then I'd like to insert my Spec Ops.

Well, unless your spec ops are swimming in, you'll need to post where your fleet in nearing shore. I have coastal defences that will try to stop you.

But if the spec ops are swimming in, they'd better expect some enemy presence wherever they're landing.
Yanitaria
26-11-2007, 20:20
Well, unless your spec ops are swimming in, you'll need to post where your fleet in nearing shore. I have coastal defences that will try to stop you.

But if the spec ops are swimming in, they'd better expect some enemy presence wherever they're landing.

Nyet, comrade. I will be inserting them via AT-200 Mouette, an amphibious plane that can land and deploy 2 Combat Rubber Raiding Craft. The fleet will not engage any of your forces yet, until we have a declaration of war. They will stay 150 nautical miles from the coast.

I think TFEI said to land around Georgia Island. Their airplanes will be escorting my planes, which will land, deploy their craft quickly, and flee, all under the radar.

As for coastal defences, we will see what happens when we get there. The planes will of course run away, using counter measures to ward off missiles, and return to the Yanitarian Fleet should any enemy ships be spotted on radar.

There will be some recon before hand, on the landing zones. We'll land on the least defended one, when there is no moon, after seeing if we can coordinate our movements with resistance forces.
Nova Pictavia
26-11-2007, 20:36
Err, why have thirty-eight amphibious assault ships been sent against a naval threat? Oh and I intend to join-up with the Kiravian fleet if someone can tell me where exactly it is... I'll post ICly as soon as I know.
Yanitaria
27-11-2007, 00:42
Err, why have thirty-eight amphibious assault ships been sent against a naval threat? Oh and I intend to join-up with the Kiravian fleet if someone can tell me where exactly it is... I'll post ICly as soon as I know.

Yeah... I just realised that my fleet is impossibly small compared to the others.

NP, can my fleet link up with yours? T'id be much appreciated.
Nova Pictavia
27-11-2007, 00:50
'Tis my intention. Sounds good. I still want to wait until I know the location of Kirav's before I proceed.
Akimonad
27-11-2007, 01:39
Err, why have thirty-eight amphibious assault ships been sent against a naval threat? Oh and I intend to join-up with the Kiravian fleet if someone can tell me where exactly it is... I'll post ICly as soon as I know.

The AAS are acting as sort of peripheral aircraft carriers. Plus they're always in my fleets, for any contingency. :P
Nova Pictavia
28-11-2007, 01:37
A few things to address;


Kirav's Internet is down so he may be a while in responding.
Presume my fleet non-existent until I get an OOC response detailing where exactly the current Utopian fleet is staged.
My last post back-tracked slightly to before the Akimonadi fired-up their Anti-Air facilities, as the insurgency would have undoubtedly responded so.


I think that is all for now... Thanks!
The Far Echo Islands
29-11-2007, 02:26
Aki, I wasn't on but a few minutes yesterday. I didn't have time to write a good response, just because of that you can't assume I don't have any defense against you bombers and go a dropping a megaton or so of conventional explosvies on my city.
Nova Pictavia
29-11-2007, 02:54
Echo: Where are you and Kirav's fleets positioned?
The Northern Baltic
29-11-2007, 03:36
The Northern Baltic would like to supply weapons to the Far Echo Islands in representation of the ILF.
The Far Echo Islands
29-11-2007, 03:43
Echo: Where are you and Kirav's fleets positioned?

We form a right angle to AKI's fleet. Me coming from the east, Kirav from the south. but, were is Aki's fleet?
Akimonad
29-11-2007, 15:28
Aki, I wasn't on but a few minutes yesterday. I didn't have time to write a good response, just because of that you can't assume I don't have any defense against you bombers and go a dropping a megaton or so of conventional explosvies on my city.

The same thing happened to me and yet your F-23s dropped bombs on my line and I haven't complained yet. I've been quite lenient, as far as I can see.

Even if you had launched anti-air capabilities, it would at most slightly hinder the attack. There'd still be bombs falling on your city, as ICly my government has decided that fighting for Augusta Nova is not the best way to retain troops.

We form a right angle to AKI's fleet. Me coming from the east, Kirav from the south. but, were is Aki's fleet?

I think it depends on where Kirav was coming in, as I was intercepting. It seems we may be confused for some time.

On another note, I need some sort of naval response from you and Kirav whenever he gets back.
Nova Pictavia
29-11-2007, 15:33
>_< Right well I'm suspending all Pictish Naval movement until I find out where exactly this big naval battle is going on, as that is where the fleet would undoubtedly head. I'll RP the damage of the bombs to Augusta Nova soon.

[EDIT]: I'm presuming the FOAB's were dropped randomly around the city and not on the insurgency's line, as the blasts may come dangerously close to the Akimonadi troops (Given that the diameter of the blast is well over half a kilometer long)? Also, if there were Echoese aircraft in the area, wouldn't they prove a viable threat to the incoming Akimonadi bombers?
Akimonad
30-11-2007, 16:22
[EDIT]: I'm presuming the FOAB's were dropped randomly around the city and not on the insurgency's line, as the blasts may come dangerously close to the Akimonadi troops (Given that the diameter of the blast is well over half a kilometer long)?

They'd be spaced for best exposure but not close to any of my troops.

Also, if there were Echoese aircraft in the area, wouldn't they prove a viable threat to the incoming Akimonadi bombers?

Perhaps, but they're being escorted so there would still be some bombs falling. But my options are open.

Also, while we're waiting, "The Story So Far" in the first post could probably be updated. ;)
Nova Pictavia
30-11-2007, 17:54
Sure, will get on it when I have time. In reference to the bombings, since our two lines were locked in combat when the bombings occured, and taking into account the massive shock caused by fuel-air bombs as well as the initial blast, I definitely think it would be difficult to effectively hit the insurgency's line without spilling over onto your troops.
Yanitaria
30-11-2007, 20:16
Not only that, but it's either you kill your own troops, or end up killing a bunch of civilians, and barely any insurgents.

Anyone who held any notion of support for your country would immediately be up in arms.

In any case, my SF guys will deploy, by AT-200 Mouette that will drop them off a few miles from shore in Combat Rubber Raiding Craft. Assume my forces have sent out air recon (which I will RP), what would be the least defended beach that will lead into the forest or farm lands? I have no interest in sending them into the city at the moment, with bombs falling randomly.

Also, the RL FOAB is about 1/4 of the smallest nuclear device available.
Akimonad
30-11-2007, 21:03
Sure, will get on it when I have time. In reference to the bombings, since our two lines were locked in combat when the bombings occured, and taking into account the massive shock caused by fuel-air bombs as well as the initial blast, I definitely think it would be difficult to effectively hit the insurgency's line without spilling over onto your troops.

They're not meant to hit the insurgency itself. They're meant to demolish the city to prevent it from falling into enemy hands.

Anyone who held any notion of support for your country would immediately be up in arms.

Well, I am acting as the evil guy in an IC sense. And my country won't care.
The Far Echo Islands
30-11-2007, 23:27
The same thing happened to me and yet your F-23s dropped bombs on my line and I haven't complained yet. I've been quite lenient, as far as I can see.

Even if you had launched anti-air capabilities, it would at most slightly hinder the attack. There'd still be bombs falling on your city, as ICly my government has decided that fighting for Augusta Nova is not the best way to retain troops.



I think it depends on where Kirav was coming in, as I was intercepting. It seems we may be confused for some time.

On another note, I need some sort of naval response from you and Kirav whenever he gets back.

OK, I can work with that, but you must see the differance here, you=damn near a nuke, me=consice 1k kg PGB's. I will be flex timing a little, I'm not gona rp as if there was no air response as there would be. You'll see when I write it.
Nova Pictavia
01-12-2007, 01:27
Right, well I'll post after Echo's. On another topic, what's happening with Frioia?
Nova Pictavia
01-12-2007, 01:57
Sorry for the double post, but I don't know what the hell is going on. Have the Akomonadi FOAB's hit Nova Augusta by the end of your post, Echo? Because you really lost me on that one...
The Far Echo Islands
01-12-2007, 02:03
Sorry for the double post, but I don't know what the hell is going on. Have the Akomonadi FOAB's hit Nova Augusta by the end of your post, Echo? Because you really lost me on that one...

He dropped FOAB's on Augusta? I though they were only on Neo Savannah.
Chekhnovak
01-12-2007, 03:08
I'd like to join the occupation forces.
The Far Echo Islands
01-12-2007, 07:37
I'd like to join the occupation forces.
Why ICly?
Nova Pictavia
01-12-2007, 15:24
Nope, definitely Augusta.
Kirav
01-12-2007, 18:08
Hey, y'all. I'm back, but I don't have the time to keep up the war. COnsider my forces puased for now.
Chekhnovak
01-12-2007, 19:02
ICly because I need to make some veterans in my armed forces, and to test out our mass infantry>tanks tactic. Aye, it sounds suicidal but that's why I want to test it on NS, I love a good slaughter. And OOCly, I think occupation forces need more people since it's like 1 to 4.
Kirav
01-12-2007, 19:17
ICly because I need to make some veterans in my armed forces, and to test out our mass infantry>tanks tactic. Aye, it sounds suicidal but that's why I want to test it on NS, I love a good slaughter. And OOCly, I think occupation forces need more people since it's like 1 to 4.

But do you have any IC connexions to Akimonad?
The Far Echo Islands
01-12-2007, 19:26
ICly because I need to make some veterans in my armed forces, and to test out our mass infantry>tanks tactic. Aye, it sounds suicidal but that's why I want to test it on NS, I love a good slaughter. And OOCly, I think occupation forces need more people since it's like 1 to 4.

You sound more like a canidiate for my pratice war (a war that doesn't count for anything but experiance after it is over) It's great to test out tatics and I'm looking for several newer players, so you seem like a good canidiate. The sign up thread will be up later today, and the IC thread will be up as soon as the ppl who signed up want it. I will TG you both the links.
Chekhnovak
01-12-2007, 19:29
Nope not ICly or OOCly. And Connexions? Don't you mean connections??
The Northern Baltic
01-12-2007, 23:00
No one responded to my message saying I am going to supply the resistance, so I assume it's okay...
The Far Echo Islands
02-12-2007, 00:12
Me too, in our chat you cited some good IC reasons with your socialism group and whatnot.
Akimonad
02-12-2007, 20:33
No one responded to my message saying I am going to supply the resistance, so I assume it's okay...

I must have missed that.

At any rate, no, it's not okay. The resistance is well-equipped enough already.

@TFEI: Please fix your IC post, considering I was dropping them on Augusta Nova. I need that fixed in order to progress.
Nova Pictavia
02-12-2007, 23:10
I'll follow suit after Aki's post, seems like a decent order of all things IC.
Echo; is Frioia is going to cede itself, then can you submit the peace-treaty here (Link) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543662), as it is in dire need of a bump! Then, I plan to use Frioia as a staging-ground for the invasion of the occupied territories.
Kirav
03-12-2007, 00:16
Nope not ICly or OOCly. And Connexions? Don't you mean connections??

My friend, I am what you would call a Grammatical Nonconformist. I spell "harbor" "labor" and color" as "harbour", "labour", and "colour". I capitalise any noun that I think needs emphasis (i.e., the names of philosophies, chemical elements, intangible concepts), skip lines between paragraphs, don't indent,...ever, and use commas more than BL uses blenders and CFEI has civil wars.
Nova Pictavia
03-12-2007, 00:20
lolz! >_<

Oh, and that doesn't make you a grammatical non-conformist, most of the time it just makes you British.
Yanitaria
03-12-2007, 01:14
My friend, I am what you would call a Grammatical Nonconformist. I spell "harbor" "labor" and color" as "harbour", "labour", and "colour". I capitalise any noun that I think needs emphasis (i.e., the names of philosophies, chemical elements, intangible concepts), skip lines between paragraphs, don't indent,...ever, and use commas more than BL uses blenders and CFEI has civil wars.

Lulz, I do most of that too! I like british spellings more than american.

I can't see why firefox insists on making me spell "realise" any other way
Akimonad
06-12-2007, 12:39
@TFEI: Please fix your IC post, considering I was dropping them on Augusta Nova. I need that fixed in order to progress.

QFT and bump.
Nova Pictavia
07-12-2007, 02:14
QFT? There ain't been no talking in days! But I am on board to get this RP going again, it's currently tying-up a large gap of potential RP time that I'm not sure if I should start in case this comes back to life.
Wagdog
07-12-2007, 18:40
OK everyone, per thread etiquette and IC policy (UFAN doesn't generally care if members maintain an empire so long as they're nice to the colonized; i.e. no slavery, genocide or so on...) I've kept out of this even if still reading. But since that plan may go haywire if Aki carries out his glassing threat against TFEI and then Pictavia retaliates, I figure I need to step in at least somewhat while I still can now. Anybody mind me posting some satellite recon of Pictish strategic preparations, followed by the UFAN Secretary General calling for mediation? If I can the post would probably be up tonight along with a few others.
Nova Pictavia
07-12-2007, 19:02
You have my permission, just need Aki's to continue (A third party in the conflict may be interesting).
Akimonad
07-12-2007, 21:32
Fine with me.

BTW, Picts, I mentioned in my post why it would be a poor choice to nuke me.
Kampfers
08-12-2007, 09:36
So, erm, I'm not allied to aki, but I figure that since I'm not actually doing anything (yet) my post is fine. Let's just say that nuking Aki would be your last mistake, eh?
Yanitaria
08-12-2007, 10:13
If you guys start firing missiles, remember, my nation has no nukes, so it'd be an unjustified attack.

*hides under rock, and grumbles about being the smallest nation involved*
Kirav
08-12-2007, 18:10
Nukes?

COme on, folks, can't we just have a good rp, instead of embroiling ourselves in nuclear war?
The Far Echo Islands
08-12-2007, 18:18
Nukes?

COme on, folks, can't we just have a good rp, instead of embroiling ourselves in nuclear war?

Wise advice.
Nova Pictavia
08-12-2007, 21:51
So, erm, I'm not allied to aki, but I figure that since I'm not actually doing anything (yet) my post is fine. Let's just say that nuking Aki would be your last mistake, eh?

You need to "Sign up" here, the "sign up" thread first, sorry, but your IC post is void. You need to be cleared by myself as the thread starter and Akimonad as the opposing force, also the other liberation forces must have no objection.

And also, I feel asthough nobody seems to have read my IC posts as I intended, please reread if you have the chance. I believe my nuclear threat was in response to the Akimonadi threat of completely destroying TFEI, which I naturally interpreted as a WMD threat considering Aki's previous carelessness in TFEI with nuclear weapons. I later then stated, that if it was not a WMD threat then a nuclear counter-attack would only be in response to the genocide of the Echoese people. I'm sorry, but when did these reasons fail to be justified?

Now, if those posts did not look like either a genocidal or WMD threat by Aki, then I really don't know what one would look like.
Wagdog
09-12-2007, 01:12
You need to "Sign up" here, the "sign up" thread first, sorry, but your IC post is void. You need to be cleared by myself as the thread starter and Akimonad as the opposing force, also the other liberation forces must have no objection.

And also, I feel asthough nobody seems to have read my IC posts as I intended, please reread if you have the chance. I believe my nuclear threat was in response to the Akimonadi threat of completely destroying TFEI, which I naturally interpreted as a WMD threat considering Aki's previous carelessness in TFEI with nuclear weapons. I later then stated, that if it was not a WMD threat then a nuclear counter-attack would only be in response to the genocide of the Echoese people. I'm sorry, but when did these reasons fail to be justified?

Now, if those posts did not look like either a genocidal or WMD threat by Aki, then I really don't know what one would look like.
Well, all I can say is that the way Aki and I discussed that post, it was merely a threat to flood TFEI's territory with enough troops to destroy the rebellion; in line with this declaration (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13243307&postcount=53) nullifying Echoese sovereignty. If genocide were carried out period, either that way or by WMD, it wouldn't be in his interest long-term since UFAN more broadly takes an exceptionally dim view to such things (as British Londinium's expulsion shows). Hence, I for one think we can have a nice RP here without resort to any nukes or suchlike breaking stuff; really I only get involved insofar as trying to talk IC diplomatic sense into TFEI and you, or else to defend Akimonad against nukings and/or a dogpile.
Nova Pictavia
09-12-2007, 18:47
Well, all I can say is that the way Aki and I discussed that post, it was merely a threat to flood TFEI's territory with enough troops to destroy the rebellion; in line with this declaration (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13243307&postcount=53) nullifying Echoese sovereignty. If genocide were carried out period, either that way or by WMD, it wouldn't be in his interest long-term since UFAN more broadly takes an exceptionally dim view to such things (as British Londinium's expulsion shows). Hence, I for one think we can have a nice RP here without resort to any nukes or suchlike breaking stuff; really I only get involved insofar as trying to talk IC diplomatic sense into TFEI and you, or else to defend Akimonad against nukings and/or a dogpile.

Hmm... See Aki has already increased the garrison in Echo substantially, and engaged our forces and deployed FOAB's en masse, so such talk of an ultimatum pointed towards more severe measures than that of troop flooding or conventional carpet bombing. I know that this wasn't Aki's intention OOCly, but Pictavia definitely doesn't know this ICly, as the Akimonadi government has not denied the possible tactic at all, so my government could use a heads up. Also, the purpose of the 'sign-up' thread is to prevent a dog-pile, any players have to be cleared unanimously by both sides.
Wagdog
09-12-2007, 19:32
Hmm... See Aki has already increased the garrison in Echo substantially, and engaged our forces and deployed FOAB's en masse, so such talk of an ultimatum pointed towards more severe measures than that of troop flooding or conventional carpet bombing. I know that this wasn't Aki's intention OOCly, but Pictavia definitely doesn't know this ICly, as the Akimonadi government has not denied the possible tactic at all, so my government could use a heads up. Also, the purpose of the 'sign-up' thread is to prevent a dog-pile, any players have to be cleared unanimously by both sides.
Roger, his new post should make things clearer there from what I've read of it. And apologies about the dogpile accusation if that's how I came across (:headbang:), just pointing out that so far my role and that of other UFAN nations in this is limited due to various IC and OOC considerations; only to activate in a few IC instances really.
Nova Pictavia
09-12-2007, 19:35
Yeah, the new post is far clearer, cheers!
Kampfers
09-12-2007, 19:42
You need to "Sign up" here, the "sign up" thread first, sorry, but your IC post is void. You need to be cleared by myself as the thread starter and Akimonad as the opposing force, also the other liberation forces must have no objection.

And also, I feel asthough nobody seems to have read my IC posts as I intended, please reread if you have the chance. I believe my nuclear threat was in response to the Akimonadi threat of completely destroying TFEI, which I naturally interpreted as a WMD threat considering Aki's previous carelessness in TFEI with nuclear weapons. I later then stated, that if it was not a WMD threat then a nuclear counter-attack would only be in response to the genocide of the Echoese people. I'm sorry, but when did these reasons fail to be justified?

Now, if those posts did not look like either a genocidal or WMD threat by Aki, then I really don't know what one would look like.

The IC issue here is that my nation could care less what Akimonad does to provoke getting nuked, its that Akimonad could get nuked. We aren't going to let that happen.

Now to the OOC. Because this is your thread, you can tell me that I can't post. However, if Akimonad is nuked, then he has full authority to let people he wants to post post. And if you still deny them, then I'll just make my own thread and nuke you and defend him from nukes in there. And if you choose to ignore that, well, then you are just a mindless noob and I could care less what you do, and I'll just put you on my ignore list. I hope it doesn't come to that, but you have to show some sense. You cant deny people from aiding a nation allied (or formerly) to them that they have good relations with and they dont want to get nuked without making yourself an asshole.
Nova Pictavia
09-12-2007, 20:09
Kampfers:

It was actually just an IC response which made the RP more interesting, adding some drama and perhaps intensity to it. I would never deploy nukes to Akimonad without his clear OOC consent, and hope it to be likewise from him. This is why we have such a busy OOC thread and pretty damn decent OOC relations: because I respect and like Aki as an RP'er. Now, if that is your attitude Kampfers then I have to say that you are not welcome here, this is an RP amongst friends who set parameters for the conflict here, and do not resort to petty insults such as 'noob' or 'asshole'. Sorry, but you wont be in this RP or will have an IC effect on Pictavia without my consent, as are the rules of NS II.

Now, lets carry on lads!
Kampfers
09-12-2007, 20:37
Kampfers:

It was actually just an IC response which made the RP more interesting, adding some drama and perhaps intensity to it. I would never deploy nukes to Akimonad without his clear OOC consent, and hope it to be likewise from him. This is why we have such a busy OOC thread and pretty damn decent OOC relations: because I respect and like Aki as an RP'er. Now, if that is your attitude Kampfers then I have to say that you are not welcome here, this is an RP amongst friends who set parameters for the conflict here, and do not resort to petty insults such as 'noob' or 'asshole'. Sorry, but you wont be in this RP or will have an IC effect on Pictavia without my consent, as are the rules of NS II.

Now, lets carry on lads!

Um, what? I never called you names, I said that if you did these certain situations then I would feel like calling you those names. And like your response, mine was merely an IC response which would add notice to the roleplay. It did nothing to detract from the quality of the roleplay, nor did it seem out of place when one considers the storyline. In fact, not having responses such as that would actually make the storyline less realistic. And feel free to ignore what I do. I would do the same to you, but it's not like you'd be able to truely affect me in all honesty.
Nova Pictavia
09-12-2007, 21:06
Now to the OOC. Because this is your thread, you can tell me that I can't post. However, if Akimonad is nuked, then he has full authority to let people he wants to post post. And if you still deny them, then I'll just make my own thread and nuke you and defend him from nukes in there. And if you choose to ignore that, well, then you are just a mindless noob and I could care less what you do, and I'll just put you on my ignore list. I hope it doesn't come to that, but you have to show some sense. You cant deny people from aiding a nation allied (or formerly) to them that they have good relations with and they dont want to get nuked without making yourself an asshole.

I interpreted your post as a overly-aggressive and possibly an example of a flamebait. Nevertheless, you need to sign-up here to actively participate in the RP.
Nova Pictavia
10-12-2007, 02:08
Kirav: The situation is de-escalating, I meant to post that my defence conditioning was being dropped to three, not one. Sorry, typo!
Kirav
10-12-2007, 02:17
Oops. Soory! Let's assume that the IIA has been having problems and the data came in late. :)
Akimonad
11-12-2007, 02:55
Bump and such.
Nova Pictavia
11-12-2007, 13:28
Aki: Check TGs.
Kirav
12-12-2007, 02:37
Y'all have got to stop with this nuke-waving contest. It''s turning this rp into a power show between Pitavia and Akimonad, whereas the CFEI is completely ignored. CFEI is the focus of this rp, men. Me, Yanitaria, FEI, and the others aren't getting any experience from this. And really, all that y'all two are getting is nuked by each other in the end.

C'mon, Aki, Picts shut his silos, so can we just get back to having a good rp?
Yanitaria
12-12-2007, 02:49
So when and where can my men land with the least resistance, assuming that my satellite assets and allied intelligence would help me pick a relatively safe spot?
The Far Echo Islands
12-12-2007, 04:26
OK, sorry for being so absent from this, it is that lovely time of the year I love to call 'Crunch' as exams are loomin and teachers are stuffin in what ever they did not fit in the rest of the year, and it is mid spring here in Georgia, (weird warm front coming through, no scratch that, GLOBAL WARMING! It was like 81F today. Seriously, WTF, so I have spent some time outside on various projects that weren't supposed to happen til march or later.) anyway, I will try to post tomorrow ICly.
Akimonad
12-12-2007, 12:41
C'mon, Aki, Picts shut his silos, so can we just get back to having a good rp?

All part of the plan, my good man.

Besides, you should study up on UFAN first and see what limits are imposed on me. ;)
Nova Pictavia
12-12-2007, 21:09
Yeah, I think it has been made pretty clear that we're not gunna nuke each other without OOC consent, it's just part of the RP. And as for leaving CFEI out with our power contest well, as CFEI says he ain't been around, and neither have you Kirav, so it's really just been me and Aki. Also, I still don't know where the hell your fleets were previously duelling, and I have made it clear that I can't proceed unless I know where I'm sending my ships...
The Far Echo Islands
13-12-2007, 00:46
Oob for Augusta Nova Nat’l Guard:

1,567 Military and civilian personnel fighting in defensive line

1,245 V-Assault Rifles

300 Mk 10 40mm Grenade launcher emplacements

Many others have various other weapons, ie: Ak-47, Shotguns (various), Pistols, mostly personal civilian weapons.
Kirav
13-12-2007, 03:18
All part of the plan, my good man.

Besides, you should study up on UFAN first and see what limits are imposed on me. ;)

I'm not talking about IC diplomatic pressure or anything, I'd just like to be able to get this rolling as a good rp again. T'sall.
Akimonad
13-12-2007, 12:35
I'm not talking about IC diplomatic pressure or anything, I'd just like to be able to get this rolling as a good rp again. T'sall.

It would help if we knew where your ships were, since all fleet action from just about everyone has been concentrated on that.
Damirez
13-12-2007, 13:02
If you guys need a neutral party to help smooth things along in regards to fleet positioning and the likes I'm offering.

Also, I'll be making an IC appearance shortly on the diplomatic scene unless anyone has any objection to make.
Kirav
14-12-2007, 01:35
It would help if we knew where your ships were, since all fleet action from just about everyone has been concentrated on that.

They're supposed to enter through the sound betwixt Dove Island and the westernmost peninsula of Georgia Island, so their current position would be a little bit our from there, at the edge of your EEZ. SInce most everyone's fleets are based upon where mine are, I'm open to any alterations.

Picts: Sorry for coming off like that. You're right, I haven't exactly been on a whole lot.
Nova Pictavia
14-12-2007, 21:38
They're supposed to enter through the sound betwixt Dove Island and the westernmost peninsula of Georgia Island, so their current position would be a little bit our from there, at the edge of your EEZ. SInce most everyone's fleets are based upon where mine are, I'm open to any alterations.

Mega-cheers! Will have an IC post up sometime soonish!
Kirav
14-12-2007, 23:39
Sweet. I'm going to start figuring out my troop complements.
Nova Pictavia
17-12-2007, 13:32
Sorry for the delay, major RL stuff keeping me from posting ICly, will do ASAP.
Surailia
30-12-2007, 04:34
Hey can Surailia join in on your reindeer games, you have to admit wherever Surailia goes....stuff (miss)happens....
Nova Pictavia
06-01-2008, 03:27
Sorry for the absence. I realize I have been making a lot of apologies lately for it all, but at any rate I still want to be active in the RP if it's running. What's the situation like now anyway? I see peace-talks of sorts are under way.
The Far Echo Islands
06-01-2008, 04:51
Yup. You pretty much got the just of it. The peace talks have put the war on hold, and I say peace talks meaning pissing match.
Wagdog
17-01-2008, 20:14
OK, to help get this show on the road and also give an independent standpoint still on Aki's side, how about I send a rep in as well? Will help a running plotline of mine anyway. If OK they'd be posted in tonight most likely since I'll soon need to start readying for work.
South Thasland
21-01-2008, 04:30
Permission to join in, on the side of the Picts and TFEI? I have some loose past ties to NP that could be used as IC reason to join.
Caelapes
21-01-2008, 16:34
Requesting permission to join in on the side of Akimonad, as we've been allies for a while and I'm applying to join UFAN.
Nova Pictavia
21-01-2008, 16:50
All up to Akimonad and TFEI, since Imperial commitment is being reviewed.
Kirav
21-01-2008, 17:12
Moving OOC into this thread...

I agree that the best course of action would be to backtrack and have Echoi accept the Peace-Treaty. You'd still gain over 50% of urban centres as opposed to a potential holocaust.

**nods**

Echo, please do this. It'll save our collective asses from UFAN's nuclear weaponry.
Nova Pictavia
21-01-2008, 17:13
Moving OOC into this thread...

I agree that the best course of action would be to backtrack and have Echoi accept the Peace-Treaty. You'd still gain over 50% of urban centres as opposed to a potential holocaust.
Akimonad
21-01-2008, 17:41
You may also avoid losing Dolphinea to my cruise missiles. It's generally improper to shoot one of Dr. Hodz's personal friends.
Kirav
21-01-2008, 23:27
We're trying to get Echo to retconn the shooting, in which case there will be no war.
Surailia
21-01-2008, 23:29
May i join.... from a distance.
The Far Echo Islands
22-01-2008, 02:05
I will go about with the retcon...

EDIT: guessing that Aki is ok with it...
Akimonad
22-01-2008, 02:07
Yup.
Nova Pictavia
22-01-2008, 13:15
Sounds fine.

Surailia: No, unless you feel the desire to wage war against Aki. In which case, be my guest ;)
Surailia
22-01-2008, 23:25
lol so i'm allowed in if i join the allies?
Akimonad
22-01-2008, 23:32
lol so i'm allowed in if i join the allies?

No, you're not.
Kirav
22-01-2008, 23:34
lol so i'm allowed in if i join the allies?

Not percisely. What he means is that, since Echo retconned the shooting, the war will [likely] end in a ceasefire, in which case a Surailian armada suddenly appearing in the vicinity of Echonia would be quite out of place.

:D
Surailia
23-01-2008, 00:04
oh yay ok well as long as everyone is happy
Nova Pictavia
23-01-2008, 00:27
oh yay ok well as long as everyone is happy

Oooooooookay.

No, you're not.

There you go.

Not percisely. What he means is that, since Echo retconned the shooting, the war will [likely] end in a ceasefire, in which case a Surailian armada suddenly appearing in the vicinity of Echonia would be quite out of place.

Nail. Head. Hit.

Now, can we carry on? What's the hold up?
Kirav
23-01-2008, 01:01
We're waiting on Echo for the retconning I reckon.
The Far Echo Islands
23-01-2008, 02:27
'tis done.
Akimonad
23-01-2008, 02:33
'tis done.

x2
Akimonad
23-01-2008, 02:33
So d'ya wanna accept the peace in the IC thread then? I believe the last offer was my proposal (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/Retro_1989/Echo.png) with CFEI on the right, with all of Glacia going to CFEI. OOCly, I think its the best deal we'll get.

Well, I'd be fine with it. :P
The Far Echo Islands
23-01-2008, 02:34
So d'ya wanna accept the peace in the IC thread then? I believe the last offer was my proposal (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/Retro_1989/Echo.png) with CFEI on the right, with all of Glacia going to CFEI. OOCly, I think its the best deal we'll get.

No, well as a plan B. I was actually thinking about taking a different approach to the whole thing. Not even splitting up the map. Something more focused on government (the real problem here), and just a treaty. You'll see when I post it.

edit: STUPID TIME WARPS!!11!
Nova Pictavia
23-01-2008, 02:35
So d'ya wanna accept the peace in the IC thread then? I believe the last offer was my proposal (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/Retro_1989/Echo.png) with CFEI on the right, with all of Glacia going to CFEI. OOCly, I think its the best deal we'll get.
Kirav
23-01-2008, 02:45
Like, whoa! We're all on at the same time! This is a first! **begins to panic as internet connection flickers**