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Weiskopf announces restrictions for muslims

Wesikopf
19-11-2007, 02:30
Due to a recent terrorist plot to assasinate the Wesiskopf Minister of Defense by Al-Qaeda the State of Weiskopf annouces these restrictions against all muslims.

1. All Muslims are barred from entering the state of Weiskopf.

2. All Muslims currently in the State of Weiskopf are required to carry
with them the new goverment issued ID Badge at all times. Such card is
to be prominantly displayed at all times.

3. All Muslims are barred from entering the Weiskopf federal
district.

4. All Muslims are to report to their designated Homeland Security Agent on
a monthly basis at a time and place as instructed.

5. The persons, homes, vehicles, places of business, places of worship of
Muslims are subject to search without a warrant and without cause by
any federal, state or local official at any time.

6. All Muslims are barred from owning or possessing a firearm.

7. Any Muslim found to violate these terms or Any person found assisting a
Muslim in violating these terms is to be declared an enemy combatant
and detained until a time of the Department of Homeland Security's
choosing.

8. If probable cause exists that a Muslim is involved in terrorist activities
he/she is to be declared an enemy combatant and detained until a time
of the Department of Homeland Security's choosing.

9. Any Muslim to voice criticism of these regulations is to be declared an
enemy combatant and detained until a time of the Department of
Homeland Security's choosing.

10. Any Muslim carrying a valid diplomatic passport is exempt from these
regulations.
New Brittonia
19-11-2007, 02:46
The United Socialist States of New Brittonia believes that discriminating on the many, based on the actions of the few. We wish for our Deputy Prime Minister, Abraham Gannon, to meet with Weiskopfian officials to discuss diplomatic relations, as Weiskopf is still a new nation.

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"Well, I guess I am an enemy combatant then. Please arrest me.",
Prime Minister of New Brittonia Mohammed Javaid, who is a Brittonian of the Islamic faith
Faxanavia
19-11-2007, 02:47
The Terracratic Union of Faxanavia declares its disguist at these actions. No people can be blamed for the action of a few, and the rights of innocents must never be free. While these are not grounds for open warfare, Faxanavia does declare a trade embargo on Weiskopf, and hopes that other nations will do the same.

Respectfully yours,
Homer Caesus
Prime Minister
Mon Kye En
19-11-2007, 03:02
His majesty, Mon Kye En, The Supreme Sovereign wishes to offer immigration status to any and all Muslims of Wesikopf. Such Muslims must provide unique identifying information so that Wesikopf police records can be obtained, must pass a preliminary Mon Kye Citizen's test, and pay a 100$US non-refundable application fee.

Should the Holy Empire of Mon Kye En believe that the test indicates you are not serious about adapting to life in the Holy Empire of Mon Kye En, you are determined to be an unwanted criminal element, or for further reason which may arise your status may be denied or revoked.
Kahanistan
19-11-2007, 03:19
Bismillah ar-rahman ar-rahim.

Certainly, the State of Wesikopf must be aware that these restrictions against Muslims will only fuel militancy and radicalise moderate Muslims. Furthermore, real terrorists will not obey such laws; they will import weapons from abroad, or hire non-Muslim mercenaries to commit their terrorist acts. As we say in Kahanistan, when owning guns is a crime, only criminals will have guns. When owning guns is a terrorist act, only Islamic terrorists will have them, and moderates will be at their mercy.

Furthermore, you impose violations of free speech, free movement, and freedom from unreasonable search and seizure upon all Muslims, as well as violate their freedom of religion.

Signed,
Dr. Khalid bin Abdullah al-Omari
President of Kahanistan
Proud Muslim
Urcea
19-11-2007, 04:09
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By Decree of His Imperial Majesty, the Holy Roman Emperor Julius Nero

The Emperor, sole defender of the Christian Faith, applauds the actions of the Weiskopf government from helping rid the scum from their lands.

Any "economic embargo" by these small nations should not trouble you. Urcea will provide you with any lost resources.

As well, if these small, insignificant nations threaten you, you should know where to turn. His Majesty the Emperor will protect you.
New Brittonia
19-11-2007, 04:19
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By Decree of His Imperial Majesty, the Holy Roman Emperor Julius Nero

The Emperor, sole defender of the Christian Faith, applauds the actions of the Weiskopf government from helping rid the scum from their lands.

Any "economic embargo" by these small nations should not trouble you. Urcea will provide you with any lost resources.

As well, if these small, insignificant nations threaten you, you should know where to turn. His Majesty the Emperor will protect you.



The New Brittonian Government wishes to remid Urcea that Muslims are humans and should be treated as equal citizens under the law and that we cannot see your flag or logo for some odd reason, so that really should get fixed.

Signed,
Foreign Minister of the United Socialist States of New Brittonia
Nabila Katchab
Yanitaria
19-11-2007, 04:26
To the Government of Wesikopf:

The USSY deplores your actions, and wishes to give unconditional citizenship to any and all muslims residing in your borders.

Furthermore, any citizens of your nation will be subjected to the same laws you enforce on muslims in your nation.

Signed,
President Mattias Norheim,
Atheist, but a believer in equal rights.
Cazelia
19-11-2007, 05:57
~Official Imperial Democracy Message~

The Cazelian Government is disgusted by Weiskopf's immoral decision to discriminate Muslims. This act will not go unpunished and we are initiating an embargo upon you slime-ridden 'country'. The embargo will persist until all acts against Muslims are ceased and a formal apology be given to all Muslims in you nation.
If the acts grow worse or continue for longer, a naval blockade will be inevitable.

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President~
Voltumna
19-11-2007, 06:01
The Glorious Luciferian Kingdom of Voltumna is disgusted by your heinous actions. We request that you lift this discriminatory rule, or we will be forced to intervene, and will request the intervention of our allies too.

Yours,
King David I
Shazbotdom
19-11-2007, 06:33
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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREGIN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
If any Shazbotdom Nationals of any Muslim Faith is harmed by your government, it will be considered a hate crime against a Shazbotdom National and the Government of the Shazbotdom Empire. We demand that you retract these unwarranted hate laws from your book and if you are holding any Shazbotdom Nationals in your prisons, to release them immeditally.

We will be dispatching Two Boeing 747's to your nation to retrieve any Shazbotdom Foreign Nationals and bring them back to Shazbotdom Territory. If you do not release all Shazbotdom Foreign Nationals to us, it will be considered kidnapping of our civilans and we will take any measure to retrieve them.
Jeuna
19-11-2007, 07:37
Excerpt from The Harbin Bulletin (哈爾濱官報):



In Wesikopf, the government has recently begun hardening its laws concerning Muslim inhabitants.
+++The laws come after Weiskopfish security forces discovered a plot to assasinate the Minister of Defense of the country. A public statement has not yet been issued in conjunction with the new set of laws, but one is expected soon, especially given the extreme international outcry against the actions taken. For instance, Cazelia and Faxanavia have declared a full embargo on Wesikopf, while the government of Shazbotdom seems to be under the impression that it has the responsibility to escort its citizens visiting Wesikopf out of the country on an arranged flight. Yanitaria has taken the most extreme posture of all, declaring that visiting Wesikopfish citizens be subject to the same laws in Yanitaria as are applied to Muslims in Wesikopf. Voltumna has even raised the threat of multi-party military action against Wesikopf.
+++Said President Fan Banou in a private interview after the declarations, "... [the international community] seems to not know sense once more." Only New Brittonia, he said, seemed to show any sort of control, and commented that Jeuna would be open for bilateral negotiations with them and Wesikopf to address the issue of human rights. This posture was included in his speech later that night.
+++It is not known at this time whether the laws extend to travelers in Wesikopf at this time, but it is doubtful.
Questers
19-11-2007, 08:25
The Questarian Government fully supports the actions of Weiskopf against these universally disloyal individuals. The best way to stop terrorism is to act by force; we know this as best as anyone else. Should any nation attack you we will offer protection for your sovereign and fledgling state. We do, however, suggest that you give amnesty to foreign muslims; or simply seize and freeze their assets before forcibly deporting them back to their homeland.
Alfegos
19-11-2007, 08:45
(Yowza, I hope this thread isn't a... whassit called?Trolling?)

Alfegos wishes to state its opinion of Weiskopf and the other nations here:
1) Not all muslims are terrorists: why discriminate against a whole faith for the sake of a few?
2) The first step of genocide is seperating and discriminating against a faith or people. Think of nazi germany: what happened first to the Jews? They were marked with an identity badge, and in this case they are marked with an identity card.
3) Removing a people's fundamental rights: that is just not on.

Alfegos is disgusted at those nations who voice support for this act of segregation and discrimination, and asks for the support of all those against it in condeming this nation.
Jagada
19-11-2007, 11:27
These acts of discrimination are harsh and extremely unbalanced in the face of what international terrorists have done to Wesikopf. Your reaction will only bait them to do more 'extreme' acts next time -- for they know they can rattle your cage. Your unproportioned response fuels the fires of hatred towards your government for the Moslems still within your country.

Sadly, you do not seem like a nation of open minded or sensible people. On that note, we offer to allow the Moslems within your nation a place a refuge within Jagada, in time they can be granted citizenship. It is a far better fait than the trainwreck awaiting them inside your country.

Signed,
Steward of the Jagite People
Veggo Anton
Urcea
19-11-2007, 23:44
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By Decree of His Imperial Majesty, the Holy Roman Emperor Julius Nero

Pay no mind to these small nations who threaten you. His Imperial Majesty will protect you.

As noted, Questers is also in your support. Urcea and His Majesty (and Questers) could crush these small dissenters who wish to end your reign as leader of your nation. They have been plagued by evil: they think that no men are evil and that all are to be treated as well. Amnesty is also given. Urceans laugh at this: those who deserve to be treated equal are, and those who are not are not treated as equal.

Therefore, His Majesty's ENTIRE Fifth Fleet will be deployed around Weiskopf for its defense at their whim; The Emperor will protect you. Say the word, and the ships will fill the sea.
Qooi
20-11-2007, 00:32
We can only hope that these measures are not disproportionate to any legitimate aim.

On a side note, I feel obliged to mention the stellar work of a Qooian company that maybe able to assist you; Thousand-Year Security specializes in integrated ID/GPS solutions. By issuing these to all your Muslim residents a comprehensive, accurate and secure intelligent system could easily be maintained. Imagine the peace of mind knowing that at anytime you can check to see if a curfew/restricted movement orders are being maintained. Imagine also knowing, at any time, how many potential terrorists are near your national treasures.

If you are agreeable, I can arrange a meeting with someone from Thousand-Year Security to construct an optimal solution for your purposes.

Sincerely,
Rachelle Plumont-Asaka,
Special Trade Relations
Livria
20-11-2007, 00:43
Due to a recent terrorist plot to assasinate the Wesiskopf Minister of Defense by Al-Qaeda the State of Weiskopf annouces these restrictions against all muslims.

1. All Muslims are barred from entering the state of Weiskopf.

2. All Muslims currently in the State of Weiskopf are required to carry
with them the new goverment issued ID Badge at all times. Such card is
to be prominantly displayed at all times.

3. All Muslims are barred from entering the Weiskopf federal
district.

4. All Muslims are to report to their designated Homeland Security Agent on
a monthly basis at a time and place as instructed.

5. The persons, homes, vehicles, places of business, places of worship of
Muslims are subject to search without a warrant and without cause by
any federal, state or local official at any time.

6. All Muslims are barred from owning or possessing a firearm.

7. Any Muslim found to violate these terms or Any person found assisting a
Muslim in violating these terms is to be declared an enemy combatant
and detained until a time of the Department of Homeland Security's
choosing.

8. If probable cause exists that a Muslim is involved in terrorist activities
he/she is to be declared an enemy combatant and detained until a time
of the Department of Homeland Security's choosing.

9. Any Muslim to voice criticism of these regulations is to be declared an
enemy combatant and detained until a time of the Department of
Homeland Security's choosing.

10. Any Muslim carrying a valid diplomatic passport is exempt from these
regulations.

Livria supports your actions against these individuals.

If we can be of any assistance (e-cleaning,riot control),L.L.D.C is ready to supply you with any equipment you might need to make the laws prevail in your country.
Allanea
20-11-2007, 00:45
OOC: Is there a Weiskopf embassy in Allanea?
Shazbotdom
20-11-2007, 00:50
OOC:
The guy hasn't responded yet. I'd wait for him to reply before anyone does anything else.
Roseberg
20-11-2007, 01:09
To the Government of Wesikopf:

The USSY deplores your actions, and wishes to give unconditional citizenship to any and all muslims residing in your borders.

Furthermore, any citizens of your nation will be subjected to the same laws you enforce on muslims in your nation.

Signed,
President Mattias Norheim,
Atheist, but a believer in equal rights.

What he said.

Furthermore, I have ordered my nation's State Department to issue a Class 1 Travel Advisory regarding Weiskopf, meaning all Roseberg Nationals in that country are urged to leave at once, and any not there presently are urged to remain away from it. Airlines operating in Roseberg shall not be permitted to send in flights to Weiskopf, barring official government business.

Signed,
Governor-General Ulysses Rexford of the Grand Duchy of Roseberg
Christian, but tolerant
Yanitaria
20-11-2007, 01:21
What he said.

Furthermore, I have ordered my nation's State Department to issue a Class 1 Travel Advisory regarding Weiskopf, meaning all Roseberg Nationals in that country are urged to leave at once, and any not there presently are urged to remain away from it. Airlines operating in Roseberg shall not be permitted to send in flights to Weiskopf, barring official government business.

Signed,
Governor-General Ulysses Rexford of the Grand Duchy of Roseberg
Christian, but tolerant

OOC: Hey again Roseberg. At least this time we can be on the same side of the government pressure.

IC:

The USSY would like to thank you for your support. Perhaps by showing their citizens what it is like to be treated like dogs, it will prompt them to change.
Gun Manufacturers
20-11-2007, 01:38
Due to a recent terrorist plot to assasinate the Wesiskopf Minister of Defense by Al-Qaeda the State of Weiskopf annouces these restrictions against all muslims.

1. All Muslims are barred from entering the state of Weiskopf.

2. All Muslims currently in the State of Weiskopf are required to carry
with them the new goverment issued ID Badge at all times. Such card is
to be prominantly displayed at all times.

3. All Muslims are barred from entering the Weiskopf federal
district.

4. All Muslims are to report to their designated Homeland Security Agent on
a monthly basis at a time and place as instructed.

5. The persons, homes, vehicles, places of business, places of worship of
Muslims are subject to search without a warrant and without cause by
any federal, state or local official at any time.

6. All Muslims are barred from owning or possessing a firearm.

7. Any Muslim found to violate these terms or Any person found assisting a
Muslim in violating these terms is to be declared an enemy combatant
and detained until a time of the Department of Homeland Security's
choosing.

8. If probable cause exists that a Muslim is involved in terrorist activities
he/she is to be declared an enemy combatant and detained until a time
of the Department of Homeland Security's choosing.

9. Any Muslim to voice criticism of these regulations is to be declared an
enemy combatant and detained until a time of the Department of
Homeland Security's choosing.

10. Any Muslim carrying a valid diplomatic passport is exempt from these
regulations.

The Allied States of Gun Manufacturers is sickened by your religious persecution of muslims. As such, the President of the ASoGM has declared that your nation is one that the ASoGM will not trade with, until such time as you drop your discriminatory laws regarding muslims. We encourage Wesikopfian muslims to emigrate out of Wesikopf as soon as possible, and would like to remind them that the ASoGM would welcome any law abiding person that wishes to immigrate from the nation of Wesikopf. The ASoGM would be a great nation for the Wesikopfian muslims, since the ASoGM is a nation where there is many faiths, with very little religious tension between the faiths.
Livria
20-11-2007, 01:55
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By Decree of His Imperial Majesty, the Holy Roman Emperor Julius Nero

Pay no mind to these small nations who threaten you. His Imperial Majesty will protect you.

As noted, Questers is also in your support. Urcea and His Majesty (and Questers) could crush these small dissenters who wish to end your reign as leader of your nation. They have been plagued by evil: they think that no men are evil and that all are to be treated as well. Amnesty is also given. Urceans laugh at this: those who deserve to be treated equal are, and those who are not are not treated as equal.

Therefore, His Majesty's ENTIRE Fifth Fleet will be deployed around Weiskopf for its defense at their whim; The Emperor will protect you. Say the word, and the ships will fill the sea.



Partially Encripted Message

Livria endorses Urcea decision.

We wish to make clear that we fully support Weiskopf decision on "cleaning out" those rats.

And since the evil muslim company,ASoGM refuses to sell you any weapons,you can count on Livria Land Defense Corporation to supply you with any defense supplies you may need.

Encripted:

Livria wants to help you to "clean" all of those filthy muslims out,please contact us.

END ENCRYPT
Cazelia
20-11-2007, 01:55
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By Decree of His Imperial Majesty, the Holy Roman Emperor Julius Nero

Pay no mind to these small nations who threaten you. His Imperial Majesty will protect you.

As noted, Questers is also in your support. Urcea and His Majesty (and Questers) could crush these small dissenters who wish to end your reign as leader of your nation. They have been plagued by evil: they think that no men are evil and that all are to be treated as well. Amnesty is also given. Urceans laugh at this: those who deserve to be treated equal are, and those who are not are not treated as equal.

Therefore, His Majesty's ENTIRE Fifth Fleet will be deployed around Weiskopf for its defense at their whim; The Emperor will protect you. Say the word, and the ships will fill the sea.



~Official Imperial Democracy Message~

Five years ago my people were weak. We fell to the might of the Urcean military. And I would like to remind you that it was five years ago. Now we are strong, and we will not be threatened by the likes of you. And we agre with you; not all people should be treated equal.
Like you
And you say that our nations are plauged by evil, my government were not responsible for the horrid genocide and war atrocities commited by Urcean and Londinian forces during the 3rd Caz'e Londinian war;
And we not the ones who massacred the Kal'Har for the reason of them being declared sentient.

So I say, right back at you

Sincerely,
James Hogart
~President~
Hallad
20-11-2007, 03:30
"The Halladi Workers' Republic condemns these actions against our comrades in Weiskopf. As such, we are cutting any diplomatic and economic ties with the illegitimate government in Weiskopf and calling for all Halladi citizens in Weiskopf to leave the country immediately. Hallad offers assylum to any and all citizens of Weiskopf who seek to avoid the tyranny of their regime."

PremierHasan Muhammad
The Halladi Workers' Republic
Bretton
20-11-2007, 04:38
Brettonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Official Response - for immediate release

Attn: Weiskopf Ruling Party

Brettonia wishes its best to Weiskopf's legitimate and necessary efforts in curbing anarchy and chaos. In order to protect peace, hard work and great effort is required to maintain vigilance against terror, extremists and Bolshevism.

With that in mind, it is noted that Brettonia's forces of justice would be willing to assist the Weiskopf government's efforts to protect peace and order if so entreated - this includes foreign aggression by national anarchists, Islamophiles and so-called "human rights" terrorists.

Do not hesitate to contact us with any requests for further information or if you wish to enlist our aid - we will be pleased to provide.
Gun Manufacturers
20-11-2007, 05:24
Partially Encripted Message

Livria endorses Urcea decision.

We wish to make clear that we fully support Weiskopf decision on "cleaning out" those rats.

And since the evil muslim company,ASoGM refuses to sell you any weapons,you can count on Livria Land Defense Corporation to supply you with any defense supplies you may need.

Encripted:

Livria wants to help you to "clean" all of those filthy muslims out,please contact us.

END ENCRYPT

The Allied States of Gun Manufacturers is evil, nor is it a muslim nation. Islam is one of many religions practiced in the ASoGM, as there is religious freedom here. Please keep your facts straight.
Dalnijrus
20-11-2007, 05:33
The Allied States of Gun Manufacturers is evil, nor is it a muslim nation. Islam is one of many religions practiced in the ASoGM, as there is religious freedom here. Please keep your facts straight.

[ SIC doesn't seem to mean very much these days, sadly. ]
Allanea
20-11-2007, 05:42
OOC: By what means was this message sent?
Rogue Protoss
20-11-2007, 12:22
Livria supports your actions against these individuals.

If we can be of any assistance (e-cleaning,riot control),L.L.D.C is ready to supply you with any equipment you might need to make the laws prevail in your country.

we are disgusted at this message how dare you support this heniuos action, i hereby cut of any sort of trade between anti muslim countries.
OOC: yo cut back a bit on the anti muslim crap K, cus its insulting your being bush
Livria
20-11-2007, 19:55
we are disgusted at this message how dare you support this heniuos action, i hereby cut of any sort of trade between anti muslim countries.
OOC: yo cut back a bit on the anti muslim crap K, cus its insulting your being bush

Livria,wishes world peace,which is something that muslims do not.In order for us to prevail,we must stand together and fight this threat,muslims represent.
Alfegos
20-11-2007, 20:15
How disgusting it is to see a nation who stereotype an entire race as a threat. Genocidal feelings fill the air with a disgusting stench, that eminates from many of those who support such radical action to supress those who are blamed by world governments for world peace. This reeks of the nazi purging of jews...
Shazbotdom
20-11-2007, 21:19
Livria,wishes world peace,which is something that muslims do not.In order for us to prevail,we must stand together and fight this threat,muslims represent.

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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREGIN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
What a load of hogwash comming out of the mouth of a leader who is as intollerant as you are.

Muslims are not the ones who are to blame, it is those religious zeliots and the fanatics who claim that they are doing this for the betterment of their religion and people. If you are so well educated, Leader of Livria, you would know this and not be spewing that racist crap out of your mouth.

The Shazbotdom Empire has several million Muslims living within our national boundries. You will have to attempt an invasion of our homeland to do that, and I doubt you as a single solitary nation will be able to do that.
Livria
20-11-2007, 21:21
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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREGIN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
What a load of hogwash comming out of the mouth of a leader who is as intollerant as you are.

Muslims are not the ones who are to blame, it is those religious zeliots and the fanatics who claim that they are doing this for the betterment of their religion and people. If you are so well educated, Leader of Livria, you would know this and not be spewing that racist crap out of your mouth.

The Shazbotdom Empire has several million Muslims living within our national boundries. You will have to attempt an invasion of our homeland to do that, and I doubt you as a single solitary nation will be able to do that.

Your muslims are your problem.No religions are allowed in Livria.

Displaying emotions is strictly forbidden in Livria,as everyone must take their dose of Prozium.

Any person,muslim or not desregarding EC-10 laws,is subject to summary execution/incineration.
Allanea
20-11-2007, 21:41
The Allanean response to Livria was simple. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13231675)
New Brittonia
21-11-2007, 21:06
Excerpt from The Harbin Bulletin (哈爾濱官報):



In Wesikopf, the government has recently begun hardening its laws concerning Muslim inhabitants.
+++The laws come after Weiskopfish security forces discovered a plot to assasinate the Minister of Defense of the country. A public statement has not yet been issued in conjunction with the new set of laws, but one is expected soon, especially given the extreme international outcry against the actions taken. For instance, Cazelia and Faxanavia have declared a full embargo on Wesikopf, while the government of Shazbotdom seems to be under the impression that it has the responsibility to escort its citizens visiting Wesikopf out of the country on an arranged flight. Yanitaria has taken the most extreme posture of all, declaring that visiting Wesikopfish citizens be subject to the same laws in Yanitaria as are applied to Muslims in Wesikopf. Voltumna has even raised the threat of multi-party military action against Wesikopf.
+++Said President Fan Banou in a private interview after the declarations, "... [the international community] seems to not know sense once more." Only New Brittonia, he said, seemed to show any sort of control, and commented that Jeuna would be open for bilateral negotiations with them and Wesikopf to address the issue of human rights. This posture was included in his speech later that night.
+++It is not known at this time whether the laws extend to travelers in Wesikopf at this time, but it is doubtful.

OOC" that was a very good post