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*Discount Weapons!* Ariel Arms and Armanents Opens Today! *Discount Weapons!*

DoubleWideville
09-11-2007, 11:37
Press Release From Ariel Arms and Armanents[SIZE="4"]

We are pleased to announce that the Holy Empire of DoubleWideville is opening a storefront for the purchase of armanents. Ariel Arms and Armanents is the premiere, discount seller of basic weaponry, arms and ammo for the defense of your nation against the foreing and domestic enemies.

Ariel Arms and Armanents is offering a 25% discount to all nations, as a promotional Grand Opening sale. A permanent discount of 25% will remain for our brothers and sisters in the Lord.We will sell to all nations, except those who oppress our brothers and sisters in the Lord.

Ariel Arms and Armanents specialty is :

DVD 49 Light Machineguns
Saul Automatic, Quadruple Barrelled Machineshotgun
.99 Millimeter Zion Pistol
.99 Millimeter Havoc Assault Rifle
Goliath Medium Tanks
Elijah Heavy, Armored Attack Helicopters
Behemoth Armored Personnel Carriers
Corax Fighter Jets

Armanents:

Brimstone Napalm Bombs
.99 milimeter bullets
Flecheete rounds
Vengance laser guided missles
Penance Heavy bombs

[B]We invite all decent people to purchase our weapons, and especially our brothers and sisters in the Lord.
Bulgoria
09-11-2007, 13:06
Im interested.How can we make bussiness comrade?
Leafanistan
09-11-2007, 16:23
.99 Millimeter Zion Pistol
.99 Millimeter Havoc Assault Rifle

OOC: Ok, this may be confusion between Imperial and Metric. .223 caliber = 5.56mm. The .XX measurement is simply in inches. .223 caliber rounds are .223 inches big.

If you actually mean it is smaller than a millimeter round then you are firing one small round. Making a round that small is hard enough, the ability to craft submillimeter casings, measuring out that propellant to very close tolerances, as you get smaller tolerances have to shrink that much too.

Also for usefulness the .99mm is nigh useless. I think I have sewing needles of a larger size than that, and I once had one buried an inch into my thigh and didn't even notice until I tried to take off or put on pants and felt a tug on my thigh. The wounds inflicted would literally be pinpricks and a soldier could easily pull them out without significant injury.

Also at small sizes the round becomes more instable as wind exerts a greater force on it. It would have to be going at an extremely high speed.

Which means for it to be effective a rail-gun or coil-gun will have to be used with extremely long needles, probably superheated before or after firing from air friction to get the most pain upon impact. That puts this weapon into late-PMT early-FT.

If you mean .99 caliber, that is nearly an inch, 25.4mm rounds are autocannon sized and are only seen in massive antitank rifles which are around 1-2m long, weigh more than a dozen kilograms to stabilize the recoil.
Antigr
09-11-2007, 17:44
Where the hell are the write-ups/pics?
DoubleWideville
09-11-2007, 20:29
Im interested.How can we make bussiness comrade?

Well it is easy. We understand your currency is not the same as ours. The DoubleWidevillian Buck is, in RL about 3 Bucks to 1 U.S Dollar.

So how does your money compare? If you have a strong currency, then we could sell you a heck of a lot of weaponry.

Armored vehicles go for 1.5 Million D.W Bucks
Ammon comes in cases of 100,000 Rounds
a Case of .99 Milimeter ammo is 500, 000 D.W Bucks
Attack Aircraft goes for 1.5 Million D.W Bucks

Now take 25% off that, and you got an idea of how much in D.W Bucks it will cost.

Is your currency the same as the U.S Dollar?
DoubleWideville
09-11-2007, 20:30
Where the hell are the write-ups/pics?

Write upos? Like descriptions?
DoubleWideville
09-11-2007, 20:36
OOC: Ok, this may be confusion between Imperial and Metric. .223 caliber = 5.56mm. The .XX measurement is simply in inches. .223 caliber rounds are .223 inches big.

If you actually mean it is smaller than a millimeter round then you are firing one small round. Making a round that small is hard enough, the ability to craft submillimeter casings, measuring out that propellant to very close tolerances, as you get smaller tolerances have to shrink that much too.

Also for usefulness the .99mm is nigh useless. I think I have sewing needles of a larger size than that, and I once had one buried an inch into my thigh and didn't even notice until I tried to take off or put on pants and felt a tug on my thigh. The wounds inflicted would literally be pinpricks and a soldier could easily pull them out without significant injury.

Also at small sizes the round becomes more instable as wind exerts a greater force on it. It would have to be going at an extremely high speed.

Which means for it to be effective a rail-gun or coil-gun will have to be used with extremely long needles, probably superheated before or after firing from air friction to get the most pain upon impact. That puts this weapon into late-PMT early-FT.

If you mean .99 caliber, that is nearly an inch, 25.4mm rounds are autocannon sized and are only seen in massive antitank rifles which are around 1-2m long, weigh more than a dozen kilograms to stabilize the recoil.

We have a different measurement system.
24.25 DoubleWide millimeters = 12.5 an inches
48.5 DoubleWide millimeters= quarter of an inch
99 DoubleWide millimeters = Half an inch
198 DoubleWide milimeters= an Inch

Therefore the .99 millimeter bullet is a half inch long
Otagia
09-11-2007, 20:51
We have a different measurement system.
24.25 DoubleWide millimeters = 12.5 an inches
48.5 DoubleWide millimeters= quarter of an inch
99 DoubleWide millimeters = Half an inch
198 DoubleWide milimeters= an Inch

Therefore the .99 millimeter bullet is a half inch long

A) Seems silly to have a measuring system using the same names as the metric system.

B) If 99 DWM = .5 inches, then .99 DWM = .005 inches = .127 mm. Math = good.

C) Calibers don't refer to the length of the round, but the diameter. For example, the M2 fires a .50 caliber round (.50 BMG). This round is 12.7mm in diameter (.5 inches) and 99mm in length (roughly 3.9 inches). A .5 inch LONG bullet would be smaller than a .22 LR round, which is famous for it's pathetic penetration and tissue damage (Reagan was shot with one and didn't even know it).
Antigr
09-11-2007, 20:57
Write upos? Like descriptions?

Write ups (fully fledged):

Statistic blocks.
Histories.
An image, drawn by you or someone else, not just a random one from google.
Stuff like that.

You'll need an individual page for them, connected by link in first post. These can be done in the same thread.
You should have a concise and neat first post containing links to the write-ups. Take the UEMS StoreFront, the Kriegzimmer StoreFront, or even my armoury thread, for instance.
1010102
09-11-2007, 21:07
The Binarian Armament Corporation inquires about purchasing Ariel Arms and Armament. Our opening bid is 50 billion USD.

OOC: most NS transactions are done in USDs or Universal Standard Dollars.
DoubleWideville
09-11-2007, 21:12
Press Release From Ariel Arms and Armanents[SIZE="4"]

We are pleased to announce that the Holy Empire of DoubleWideville is opening a storefront for the purchase of armanents. Ariel Arms and Armanents is the premiere, discount seller of basic weaponry, arms and ammo for the defense of your nation against the foreing and domestic enemies.

Ariel Arms and Armanents is offering a 25% discount to all nations, as a promotional Grand Opening sale. A permanent discount of 25% will remain for our brothers and sisters in the Lord.We will sell to all nations, except those who oppress our brothers and sisters in the Lord.

Ariel Arms and Armanents specialty is :

DVD 49 Light Machineguns
Saul Automatic, Quadruple Barrelled Machineshotgun
.99 Millimeter Zion Pistol
.99 Millimeter Havoc Assault Rifle
Goliath Medium Tanks
Elijah Heavy, Armored Attack Helicopters
Behemoth Armored Personnel Carriers
Corax Fighter Jets

Armanents:

Brimstone Napalm Bombs
.99 milimeter bullets
Flecheete rounds
Vengance laser guided missles
Penance Heavy bombs

[B]We invite all decent people to purchase our weapons, and especially our brothers and sisters in the Lord.

DVD 49 Light Machineguns


History: The DVd 49 was used during the Purification Wars between the old, decadent United States and the then fledgling Holy Empire of DoubleWideville.
It is the workhorse of the Legions of the Armies of the Lord, and were used extensively during the Purification War. The DVD .49 is known to be able to be used under diverse battle situations and does not jam easily.
The Armies of the Lord have used in successfull fights with Islamofascists, and in recent campaings against Atheist sleeper cells.
Currently, the DVD 49 is used by many of the poorer nations of the world. It is a high performance assault rifle, and is sturdy. Unlike many other assault rifles, even rough use and irregular cleaning and oiling will not make the DVD 49 misfire.
It is the choice weapon of guerrilla forces and has even been adopted by enemies of the Holy Empire of DoubleWideville!
DoubleWideville
09-11-2007, 21:21
The Binarian Armament Corporation inquires about purchasing Ariel Arms and Armament. Our opening bid is 50 billion USD.

OOC: most NS transactions are done in USDs or Universal Standard Dollars.


Im afraid we will have to disagree to your terms. While Ariel Arms and Armanents are a for-profit buisness, it is our intention to always have a policy of arming brothers and sisters in the Lord against Islamofascism and the morally corrosive forces of Atheism.
If we were to sell Ariel Arms and Armanents to you, we fear that you would no longer favor God's children. This fear means we can not, in good faith to our Lord and Saviour, sell you Ariel Arms and Armanents.

As Alwaysm we want to let all Christians know that we will always sell to our brothers and sisters at a discount of 25% discount!
1010102
09-11-2007, 21:28
Im afraid we will have to disagree to your terms. While Ariel Arms and Armanents are a for-profit buisness, it is our intention to always have a policy of arming brothers and sisters in the Lord against Islamofascism and the morally corrosive forces of Atheism.
If we were to sell Ariel Arms and Armanents to you, we fear that you would no longer favor God's children. This fear means we can not, in good faith to our Lord and Saviour, sell you Ariel Arms and Armanents.

As Alwaysm we want to let all Christians know that we will always sell to our brothers and sisters at a discount of 25% discount!

Then we shall up our offer to 750 billion USD for the company and all assets of Ariel Arms and Armanents. Every true for profit business has its price.
Antigr
09-11-2007, 21:37
Write-up would typically include a statistics block - which is actually the first thing you should have. Because of this (or, lack of it), we have no idea what kind of round it fires, what action it has, or things like that.

In the write-up, you should explain things like the gas-actuated firing system it uses, it's selector switch if it has one, the round and it's dimensions (cartridge dimensions alone are widely accepted), the kind of bullet it uses, a description of what it looks like since you have no pic, whether it has accessory rails or things like that, whether it has a bipod, it's sights, possibly it's trigger group, it's magazine capacities, and all the other details of how it works. It is essentially, a weapon design written down.

Here's a tip. Know how something works, really, before you go out and design one, which is what you're doing here. What I mean by that is, due to your indetailed write-up, by the sound of it you appear to not know how a gun works. No offence to anyone else who's done write-ups before, but this does involve a lot of knowledge and research, 'uber-geek-ism' as one of my friends calls it.

Also, some tips on the DVD-49. Explain how it works and what systems it uses, see above. Get a statistics block. How is it a light machine-gun and assault rifle? What makes it so resistant to fouling? How is this done? Get this in the write up.

Partly for publicity and partly to boast, as well as to give you an example, I'll refer you to my armoury thread, or, more particularly, the write-up on my Sabre assault rifle. See how I've pretty much included a lot. And that's just the basic stuff. Link here, check it out, seriously. (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13130744&postcount=27)

Also, visit some real weapons pages for more ideas.
Dalnijrus
09-11-2007, 22:00
We have a different measurement system.
24.25 DoubleWide millimeters = 12.5 an inches
48.5 DoubleWide millimeters= quarter of an inch
99 DoubleWide millimeters = Half an inch
198 DoubleWide milimeters= an Inch

Therefore the .99 millimeter bullet is a half inch long

[ It would've been nice to know this from the get-go. ]
Crookfur
10-11-2007, 00:32
A) Seems silly to have a measuring system using the same names as the metric system.

B) If 99 DWM = .5 inches, then .99 DWM = .005 inches = .127 mm. Math = good.

C) Calibers don't refer to the length of the round, but the diameter. For example, the M2 fires a .50 caliber round (.50 BMG). This round is 12.7mm in diameter (.5 inches) and 99mm in length (roughly 3.9 inches). A .5 inch LONG bullet would be smaller than a .22 LR round, which is famous for it's pathetic penetration and tissue damage (Reagan was shot with one and didn't even know it).


Actually the lengths you mention are for the case not the actual bullet, a .50 BMG bullet would likely be in the region of 50-60mm long (rough guess off the top os my head), but then you knew that ;)

DoubleWideville: all you really need for firearms is a basic stat block and maybe a breif blurb, the various entries on Maxim Popenker's wesbite such as this: http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg48-e.htm give you a reasonable idea of what people like. You don't need to get as technical as some will make out. If someone is interested enough to read a step by step description of the operating mechanism they will generally know enough to understand terms like "short stroke gas piston rotating bolt" or "roller delayed blowback".

plus feel free to make the weapons as whacky or as impractical as you like as logn as you acknowledge them as such.
DoubleWideville
10-11-2007, 03:01
Saul Automatic, Quadruple Barrelled Machineshotgun

Type: Automatic/Semi-automatic Machineshotgun
Caliber: Flechette Buckshot
Weight Unloaded: 12 Standard pounds
Length: 18 Standard inches, 1 Standard Foot, 6 Standard Inches
Barrell Length: 1 Standard Foot
Magazine Capacity: 22 rounds of flechette buckshot

The Saul Q.B.M.S.G was created by Ariel Arms and Armanents from experiences during the Purification War. The Sual Q.B.M.S.G was built to be used both as an automatic shotgun and as semi-automatic. The design was to give the frequency of fir of a semi to automatic weapon with the knockdown power of a shotgun.
The flechette rounds are slivers of metal that are shot with the buckshot rounds to rend, tear and perforate flesh. This is a close quarters combat weapon, suitable for urban environments.
The four barrels of the Saul Q.B.M.S.G gived quadruple the power of a sawed off double barrelled shotgun. The weapon tends to ride up a little bit, so Ariel Arms and Armanents added a pistol grip to it , including a collapsing rifle butt. The pistol grip allow the shooter to control the tendency of the Saul Q.B.M.S.G to ride up.
The Saul Q.B.M.S.G is used exclusively by the Home Legions of The Holy Empire for riot control and for S.W.A.T type tactics. Sales are projected to increase, in the foreseeable future.

.99 Zion Pistol

Type: Single Action Semiautomatic
Calibers: .99 ammo
Weight Unloaded: 5 pounds
Length: 159 Standard MM
Barrel Length: 76 Standard MM
Magazine Capacity: 12 rounds

The Zion Pistol is a good sidearm for military and police. It is currently issued to all the Provinical Militia of DoubleWideville. The weapon has good stopping power, and is just a decent, semiautomatic sidearm.
In the Legions of DoubleWideville, it is used as a sidearm along the Saul Q.B.M.S.G, or the standard assault rifle of the Holy Empire's Legions.
While not the most superior firearm ever created, it has the advantages of being sturdy, easily manufactured and easily dissassembled and cleaned if a very infrequent mechanical problem shoulkd happend. It has been constructed to require minimal upkeep, and is safe to be used in the most rough, muddy, wet terrain.
South Lizasauria
10-11-2007, 04:07
Press Release From Ariel Arms and Armanents[SIZE="4"]

We are pleased to announce that the Holy Empire of DoubleWideville is opening a storefront for the purchase of armanents. Ariel Arms and Armanents is the premiere, discount seller of basic weaponry, arms and ammo for the defense of your nation against the foreing and domestic enemies.

Ariel Arms and Armanents is offering a 25% discount to all nations, as a promotional Grand Opening sale. A permanent discount of 25% will remain for our brothers and sisters in the Lord.We will sell to all nations, except those who oppress our brothers and sisters in the Lord.

Ariel Arms and Armanents specialty is :

DVD 49 Light Machineguns
Saul Automatic, Quadruple Barrelled Machineshotgun
.99 Millimeter Zion Pistol
.99 Millimeter Havoc Assault Rifle
Goliath Medium Tanks
Elijah Heavy, Armored Attack Helicopters
Behemoth Armored Personnel Carriers
Corax Fighter Jets

Armanents:

Brimstone Napalm Bombs
.99 milimeter bullets
Flecheete rounds
Vengance laser guided missles
Penance Heavy bombs

[B]We invite all decent people to purchase our weapons, and especially our brothers and sisters in the Lord.

IC:

Man in black suit(obviously Meritcratic South Lizasaurian INTEL): How much would 1 million of everything cost?
Antigr
10-11-2007, 14:04
Actually the lengths you mention are for the case not the actual bullet, a .50 BMG bullet would likely be in the region of 50-60mm long (rough guess off the top os my head), but then you knew that ;)

DoubleWideville: all you really need for firearms is a basic stat block and maybe a breif blurb, the various entries on Maxim Popenker's wesbite such as this: http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg48-e.htm give you a reasonable idea of what people like. You don't need to get as technical as some will make out. If someone is interested enough to read a step by step description of the operating mechanism they will generally know enough to understand terms like "short stroke gas piston rotating bolt" or "roller delayed blowback".

plus feel free to make the weapons as whacky or as impractical as you like as logn as you acknowledge them as such.

Suppose this is true. Got over-excited. But you do need to explain what systems it uses and such.

The weapons described above use what kind of gas system? And what makes the DVD-49 so immune to fouling?
DoubleWideville
10-11-2007, 20:45
Suppose this is true. Got over-excited. But you do need to explain what systems it uses and such.

The weapons described above use what kind of gas system? And what makes the DVD-49 so immune to fouling?

Well, as for why it is particularly immune to fouling. Basically, the reason is because it is made so you can manullay eject the fouled round. There is a lever action on the side, sort of like a regular rifle, that lets you manually eject the jammed round.

So if you were firing it, and it jammed, all you would have to do is stop pulling the trigger, work the manual eject port, and keep working it untill all the fouled rounds are out. Then you'd simply take the safety off, and continue to fire.
DoubleWideville
10-11-2007, 20:50
IC:

Man in black suit(obviously Meritcratic South Lizasaurian INTEL): How much would 1 million of everything cost?

It would cost about 330, million DoubleWidevillian Bucks. That translates into 110 Million Dollars of the standard money used in Nationstate.

Our exchange rate is 1 dollar = 3 DoubleWidevillian bucks.

That's why were a c good company. Our currency exchange, matched by our discount going on now, gives an excellent value to customers.
Otagia
11-11-2007, 08:08
Well, as for why it is particularly immune to fouling. Basically, the reason is because it is made so you can manullay eject the fouled round. There is a lever action on the side, sort of like a regular rifle, that lets you manually eject the jammed round.

So if you were firing it, and it jammed, all you would have to do is stop pulling the trigger, work the manual eject port, and keep working it untill all the fouled rounds are out. Then you'd simply take the safety off, and continue to fire.
So you're preventing misfires by being able to eject the misfired round? Unclear on how this works... Anyway, cycling the action is pretty much a universal solution to clearing jams anyway, and doesn't always work. For example, if a round only partially clears the magazine, working the action isn't going to help much, especially if the round is deformed. Pretty much the only way to dislodge the thing then tends to be to eject the magazine and remove the round by hand (depending on feed system and action, of course). Spent brass can also lodge as it's ejected, and leads to similar issues (albeit not requiring the mag to be removed).

Would be able to tell you more if I knew exactly what sort of action the thing used, which is really going to determine it's reliability anyway.
Antigr
11-11-2007, 17:29
That doesn't make it immune to fouling. That just solves the problem after it's been fouled.