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Kortelan is a small, newer country but our economy is decently good. We have just allocated some funds towards defense and are now looking for foreign contractors to fill contracts to help us create a military. The most that will be spent on any of the four contracts will be 1 billion. If a single company decides to take more then one contract the total will not be more then 1 billion per contract up to four billion if you choose to take all four contracts.

The first contract will be for a land based army. The primary use will be as a defensive force but it must be highly mobile. We would like it to be geared towards a guerrilla combat style.

The second contract will be for a navy. We would like a fast cruiser based navy with a small number of battleships and maybe two carriers or so. A submarine fleet would also be nice and fuel tankers are a must have.

The third contract is for an air force. As the military will be used almost exclusively for defense we would like the air force to be centered around air superiority fighters with a small number of tactical and naval bombers. As most radar will be mobile or ship based stealth is not that large of a concern to us.

The fourth and final contract will be for defensive installations. Radar, anti air, coastal and inland fortifications, anti missile sites. The radar, AA and AM sites, we would prefer if they were both static and mobile.

The purpose of these contracts is not to wage war but to make war with us so costly that a nation will not deem our small country worth invasion. As our national motto says if you want peace prepare for war.

OOC: I doubt that you can afford two carriers. Your defence budget is $4,408,831,829.59. A Queen Elisbeth class supercarrier cost £3.9 billion, just as an example. Even if you take smaller carriers, they still will cost you very much.

OOC: I doubt that you can afford two carriers. Your defence budget is $4,408,831,829.59. A Queen Elisbeth class supercarrier cost £3.9 billion, just as an example. Even if you take smaller carriers, they still will cost you very much.

OOC: I know what I could afford going to a storefront, namely nothing much. But who knows what these contracts will get.

The Kingdom of SaintB is the Headquarters of SaintB and Tigerlan Weaponry Incorperated. The company is state run and very large with dozens of designs ranging from pistols to main battle tanks, from UAVs, to Air Superiority Aircraft. In the past The Kingdom of SaintB and STW Incorperated have made mutually beneficial contracts with small nations such as your own in the past, if you would be interested in such a contract we would like to hear back from you.

The Kingdom of SaintB is the Headquarters of SaintB and Tigerlan Weaponry Incorperated. The company is state run and very large with dozens of designs ranging from pistols to main battle tanks, from UAVs, to Air Superiority Aircraft. In the past The Kingdom of SaintB and STW Incorperated have made mutually beneficial contracts with small nations such as your own in the past, if you would be interested in such a contract we would like to hear back from you.

We are interested in what you have to offer.

The offer we would offer is similer to the contract recently struck with the nation of Fson. The Kingdom of SaintB would offer 100 billion dollars per year boost to your nation's defense budget, and ST&W Icorperated would provide weaponry for your armed forces, the funds for which would be provided mainly from the Kingdom of SaintB's boost. This offer would be good until your nation reached a 15 trillion dollar GDP.

In return the Kingdom of SaintB would like economic favors including the right to outsource industry to your nation (providing businesses and factories within your nation, hring your nations people) and ST&W Incorperated would have a 10 year contract with your nations defense department from the date SaintB's funding assistance is terminated.

Other terms are negotiable.

Imperial Eagle Armaments Corporation
'Finding Better Ways to Kill People for Your Convenience'
Official Communique

IEA Corp. would like to direct the procurement department of the Kortelan Defence Ministry to our product, the MR-17 Assault Rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542424), as a possibility for use by your infantry forces.

Brian Chaswick
Director of Sales

The offer we would offer is similer to the contract recently struck with the nation of Fson. The Kingdom of SaintB would offer 100 billion dollars per year boost to your nation's defense budget, and ST&W Icorperated would provide weaponry for your armed forces, the funds for which would be provided mainly from the Kingdom of SaintB's boost. This offer would be good until your nation reached a 15 trillion dollar GDP.

In return the Kingdom of SaintB would like economic favors including the right to outsource industry to your nation (providing businesses and factories within your nation, hring your nations people) and ST&W Incorperated would have a 10 year contract with your nations defense department from the date SaintB's funding assistance is terminated.

Other terms are negotiable.

So you will give us a military and leave us to rely on you heavily until we have a 15 trillion GDP and as soon as we have that we can only buy from ST&W Inc. for ten years. Is that a correct interpretation of the said deal you are proposing?

[OOC: Normally I don't deal a lot with new nations, but, as you've already made two primary threads and seem to be interested in long-term stay, that may be a suitable case.]

Aerospace Logistics Corporation

Being new on the scene, you might not be yet familiar with ALC, but, we assure you, should you engage in serious international politics, these letters will come to weigh a lot to you.

We are capable of providing a country with highly cost-efficient means of defense, and potentially with access to our defensive network. However, our support is reserved to nations with the same causes as we have, interested in long-term partnership.

Particularly, full execution of contracts for Naval, Air and Defense components can be ensured.
Before making specific offers, however, we'd like to learn some information about your political plans.
1. Are you going to maintain high civil rights and support their proliferation in the world?
2. How long-term is your interest? As of now, a serious defense force isn't feasible, but in some time things will change.

To clarify, we support free market and under no conditions require or promote exclusive deals. We always face competition head-on, winning not through monopoly, but through high cost-efficiency, which forces us to constantly evolve.

The concept as we see it is more of fostering peaceful economic relations between our two nations, improving both our economies together and forming a partnership. The 100 billion dollars a year is an investment in the future of our nations trust in yours and in future years would pay dividends for us both. 100 billion dollars is not truly seen by us as 'heavily relying on' as shortly you will find that 100 billion is only a very small portion of your defense budget. The 10 year contract with the company would be thier incentive for entering in this partnership. The contracts terms are compeltly negotiable... it was meant merely as a freindly and beneficial offer.

[OOC: Normally I don't deal a lot with new nations, but, as you've already made two primary threads and seem to be interested in long-term stay, that may be a suitable case.]

Aerospace Logistics Corporation

Being new on the scene, you might not be yet familiar with ALC, but, we assure you, should you engage in serious international politics, these letters will come to weigh a lot to you.

We are capable of providing a country with highly cost-efficient means of defense, and potentially with access to our defensive network. However, our support is reserved to nations with the same causes than we have, and interested in long-term partnership.

Particularly, full execution of contracts for Naval, Air and Defense components can be ensured.
Before making specific offers, however, we'd like to learn some information about your politics.
1. Are you going to maintain high civil rights and support their proliferation in the world?
2. How long-term is your interest? As of now, a serious defense force isn't feasible, but in some time things will change.

To clarify, we support free market and under no conditions require or promote exclusive deals. We always face competition head-on, winning not through monopoly, but through high cost-efficiency, which forces us to constantly evolve.
(OOC: I am a returning player. I had to go three months without internet and I had no warning so my country was lost.)

1. We will maintain civil rights as long as it is not a detriment to our people. If with too much freedom order breaks down then we will be force to suspend civil rights for the moment, but in all other cases we feel that civil rights are needed.
2. We wish to always have a large military in order to be able to keep ourselves and any ideals and allies we may gain safe. Our interest is therefore quite long term.

Is that all you require? If so we would like to know what you intend on helping us with.

The concept as we see it is more of fostering peaceful economic relations between our two nations, improving both our economies together and forming a partnership. The 100 billion dollars a year is an investment in the future of our nations trust in yours and in future years would pay dividends for us both. 100 billion dollars is not truly seen by us as 'heavily relying on' as shortly you will find that 100 billion is only a very small portion of your defense budget. The 10 year contract with the company would be their incentive for entering in this partnership. The contracts terms are completely negotiable... it was meant merely as a friendly and beneficial offer.

You must realize that at this moment our entire GDP is only 61 billion and our budget is only 20,994,437,283.76 so 100 billion would be almost 5 times our entire budget. How is that not heavily relying? I am sorry but I do not see how we will benefit from this. I do know that the people of this country would be in full revolt seeing this as the government allowing a foreign power step into power.

ooc: If you old nation died for lack of activity all you need to do is use the tool on the main website to get it resurected.

Your 1 billion limit simply isn't goign to buy you much in terms of naval assets, you might get a destroyer or 2 but that would it. Would you be willing to cosndier multi year contracts with the pssibility of deffered payments/lines of credit?

[OOC: Well, like what I've guessed.]


Aerospace Logistics Corporation

As we expected, your nation's politics are serious and well weighed. Our company would be pleased to deal with you.

Considering your small budget and not intending to force any stretching, we can suggest the following systems today:


Ground - We do not offer particular custom-designed ground vehicles at the moment, and don't suggest investing the limited budget in them when similar capability can be gained cheaper. Since EFV meets virtually all of our needs for APC and IFV, we simply mass-produce that system.
However, being focused on infantry and SOF, we suggest you keep your soldiers with the best possible equipment. R1 Small Arms System (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=139) might be expensive, but it gets the best of your soldiers. To protect them, we manufacture armor vests and suits from Level I to Level IV+ protection, equipped with our proprietary design Full Communication Helmets.

Naval - At the current stage, a good solution for coastal and close-range defense would be the the Mudskipper class hydroplane (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=988). A very fast but affordable vessel, it's designed for high weapon payload, carrying up to 96 MLSS-21-315 (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1223) or 192 MLSS-21-250 missiles. Both hydroplane and missiles being low-observable, this provides a thorn in the side to a force of any size.
Later, we can offer NCR class submarines (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3264), and, in the future, NCR II class. As your Navy grows, more of our solutions will become practical, from frigates to Hub class heavy carrier.

Air force - Again, at current stage, our suggestion would be low-cost, even if not top-grade aircraft. We can transfer some of older planes at low cost, and in the future you should expect access to affordable but highly effective designs, up to the Parhelia interceptor. Since in Vault 10 aircraft are the main mode of transport, massive production makes economy of scale drop costs even lower.

Defense - Our Heavy Naval Defense system would be excessively costly now, but you can ensure a significant grade of air and missile defense by installing the Dachnik (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1086) system. Its capabilities far exceed what is usually expected from low-cost systems.


We think you'll be able to decide for yourself what's best for you. Our offers are always flexible.


[ OOC: I don't post my designs on NS II. They're always on the Draftroom (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php), to ensure they're open to discussion at any time. Since I spend more time as a designer (My 3000 posts on D. versus 900 on NS might be among the highest ratios), it also makes the replies easier to notice and respond to. I maintain high level of realism, focusing on creative solutions rather than wanking up stats.
Most of my designs are there, but it's too long to find and link everything; here are only the most interesting systems which are applicable for a small nation. Check the NSwiki in my sig as well, though the designs there aren't as good as Draftroom ones; but I'll improve all of them and repost there.

As for land forces, I'm working together with Macabees on designing the next-generation tank, successor to Nakil. Really I could make a simpler one, but prefer not to go with typical wanky and inefficient design, but rather focus on that one; assuming you know what Nakil was for NS, I guess you understand why. ]

To be honest, we don't want anything but your money. We won't interfere, we won't demand, and we won't ask anything of you but to pay your debts and be a good customer.

We'll even offer you a 15% discount. We also offer infrastructure packages like Instant Town, and Instant (Border) Checkpoint. So take a look, and if you want a custom job we can do that too. No pressure.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=525224

FROM: The People's Armed Confederacy of Mokastana
TO: Kortelan

We are not after a contract but instead looking to sell some aging hardware, few ships and some helicopters we will sell to you for dirt cheap. Mostly they have been left alone on the docks and given basic maintenance. However now we need those docks for new ships and the old have to go. Along with them we are Retiring the Mi-24 from our ranks so we will sell some of those to you as well if you like.

Thank you

Livertad class battle cruisers (crew: 75 )
2 260 mm guns,
3 Harpoon (4x) launchers,
2 SAM missile launchers
asking price: $70,000

Zapata class battle ship (crew: 150)
2 280 mm guns
2 harpoon (4x) missiles launchers
2 Tomahawk cruise missile launchers
2 SAM missile launchers
4 Phalanx defense system machine guns
asking price: $100,000

Peron class air attack cruisers (crew: 100)
room for 16 Helicopter of your choice
4 SAM missiles launchers
4 Phalax Defense System machine Guns
asking price: $ 100,000

OOC: i designed these when i was new so the info may be lacking....so they are old equipment.

[OOC: Well, like what I've guessed.]


Aerospace Logistics Corporation

As we expected, your nation's politics are serious and well weighed. Our company would be pleased to deal with you.

Considering your small budget and not intending to force any stretching, we can suggest the following systems today:


Ground - We do not offer particular custom-designed ground vehicles at the moment, and don't suggest investing the limited budget in them when similar capability can be gained cheaper. Since EFV meets virtually all of our needs for APC and IFV, we simply mass-produce that system.
However, being focused on infantry and SOF, we suggest you keep your soldiers with the best possible equipment. R1 Small Arms System (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=139) might be expensive, but it gets the best of your soldiers. To protect them, we manufacture armor vests and suits from Level I to Level IV+ protection, equipped with our proprietary design Full Communication Helmets.

Naval - At the current stage, a good solution for coastal and close-range defense would be the the Mudskipper class hydroplane (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=988). A very fast but affordable vessel, it's designed for high weapon payload, carrying up to 96 MLSS-21-315 (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1223) or 192 MLSS-21-250 missiles. Both hydroplane and missiles being low-observable, this provides a thorn in the side to a force of any size.
Later, we can offer NCR class submarines (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3264), and, in the future, NCR II class. As your Navy grows, more of our solutions will become practical, from frigates to Hub class heavy carrier.

Air force - Again, at current stage, our suggestion would be low-cost, even if not top-grade aircraft. We can transfer some of older planes at low cost, and in the future you should expect access to affordable but highly effective designs, up to the Parhelia interceptor. Since in Vault 10 aircraft are the main mode of transport, massive production makes economy of scale drop costs even lower.

Defense - Our Heavy Naval Defense system would be excessively costly now, but you can ensure a significant grade of air and missile defense by installing the Dachnik (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1086) system. Its capabilities far exceed what is usually expected from low-cost systems.


We think you'll be able to decide for yourself what's best for you. Our offers are always flexible.


[ OOC: I don't post my designs on NS II. They're always on the Draftroom (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php), to ensure they're open to discussion at any time. Since I spend more time as a designer (My 3000 posts on D. versus 900 on NS might be among the highest ratios), it also makes the replies easier to notice and respond to. I maintain high level of realism, focusing on creative solutions rather than wanking up stats.
Most of my designs are there, but it's too long to find and link everything; here are only the most interesting systems which are applicable for a small nation. Check the NSwiki in my sig as well, though the designs there aren't as good as Draftroom ones; but I'll improve all of them and repost there.

As for land forces, I'm working together with Macabees on designing the next-generation tank, successor to Nakil. Really I could make a simpler one, but prefer not to go with typical wanky and inefficient design, but rather focus on that one; assuming you know what Nakil was for NS, I guess you understand why. ]

We are going to go with this deal for now. After careful review of all proposed offers, ALC has the best offers for the money and the least interference with regards to politics and diplomatic relations.

[ OOC: So, how will we handle it? Will you make orders yourself, or should I post what it would include, or will it be supposed to just be delivered over time in unspecified numbers and variants? ]

[ OOC: So, how will we handle it? Will you make orders yourself, or should I post what it would include, or will it be supposed to just be delivered over time in unspecified numbers and variants? ]

OOC: I am not exactly sure. I am really out of it today and I don't know why.