NationStates Jolt Archive


"Green Weapons" *New Technology, Open News Report, (P)MT*

Nova Pictavia
05-11-2007, 16:51
OOC: A new WMD, available for export to allies who offer a significant sum. Otherwise open to both IC and OOC comments.

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The Alternative Weapons Research & Development (underground facilities topside entrance)

The Imperium publicly admits Alternative WMD Research

A spokesperson for the Imperium's Alternative Weapons Research & Development Centre (IAWRDC), has recently confirmed the existence of the previously rumored "Progestin Inhibitor-1789-1224". The Chemical Weapon is designed to render a percentage of the target population temporarily or irreversible infertile, severely limiting future reproduction. The drug in question is a reverse-engineered variant of "synthetic progestogen" similar in biological terms to the "progesterone" family. Effectively a mutated and extreme hormone treatment, the Imperium hopes to have a weapons-grade product available by the end of the year. The drug was designed to induce severe Endometrial Hyperplasia caused rather crudely by gross hormonal imbalances in its first stages. Later, as the bodies will no doubt attempt to re-balance themselves, permanent chemical castration will still be the primary symptom as a common result of extreme hormone treatment (Usually occurring after transgender therapy). In testing, norethindrone (19-nor-17α-ethynyltestosterone) was vaporised into a respiratory and orally ingestible compound on weapon destination.
Proposed to be carried as a replacement warhead for any conventional ICBM, "Drug-179-1224" is vaporized in conventional detonation and carried by thermal currents. The density of the undisclosed "Cradle" compound the weaponized form is dissolved in ensures the drug reaches the ground without over-hitting the target area. Gradual evaporation of the Alcoholic elements in the "Cradle" compound reduces the atomic structural integrity of the drug, eventually allowing dissolution in precipitation. This acts as a failsafe, limiting the drug's target magnitude should it fail to descend at high altitudes. Should the chemical then find its way into local water-supplies, even ordinary precautions in the case of chemical assaults will be stretched.

Imperial High Command has stated that the intended purpose of the weapons-grade toxin is to incapacitate the reproductive facilities of a small percentage of the target populace, ensuring that military numbers will not recover so quickly in the coming generations. High Command also stated that it was "...certainly more humane and environmentally stable" concerning the effects of mass-deployed nuclear weaponry.

The initiative to develop more environmentally sound weapons for deployment is currently pending possible contracts with both Leafistan and Aperature Science as well as domestic enterprises, and is expected to continue into the foreseeable future.
Imperial News Feed
October 2007
Dr. J.H.Phay, 2007
Alfegos
05-11-2007, 18:27
OOC: Brilliant! I would never have thought of that. A nice weapon but...

IC:

Alfegos wishes to state that it is aginst this weapons deployment for a number of reasons:
1) The damage caused is irreversible meaning that...
2) The damage will not disappear, even after many generations, meaning that...
3) Any idea of peace with that nation is out of the question.
Also
4) The weapon usage could escalate to the point where the human race is threatened, in a large scale war.
5) If terrorists got hold of the weapon, the consequences would be unthinkable
6) This weapon could be used by a government to perform the "perfect genocide", leaving no trace of its usage yet killing off an entire race.
7) It would decimate local wildlife.


This is why we are opposed to such a system.
Arnatia
05-11-2007, 18:27
IC:


*Official Communique From The Imperial Palace*

The Empire is intrigued by the development of this new weapon system, and though we do not have immediate use for it, would like to contribute any form of support as may be useful, and may be interested in acquiring said system in the future.
Otagia
05-11-2007, 18:43
OOC: A decent idea, but I can't see it being anywhere near permanent. After all, Endometrial Hyperplasia is quite treatable, and would quite likely cease once the hormone worked it's way out of the woman's system. Thus, once the stuff works it's way out of the environment (pretty darn quick, given your safety measures), fertility rates will go back to normal.
Nova Pictavia
05-11-2007, 22:33
OOC: Firstly, thank all of you for your comments, especially Alfegos and Otagia for their help in the R&D, and the Arnatian interest is also highly valued. After reviewing your opinions, the first post has been altered.

Alfegos:

The weapon is a damn-sight more reversible than an atomic bomb, and it only effects those directly exposed as it is not of biological decent. Yes, it theoretically may be able to decimate an entire race to perhaps 20%, which is the intended result, although I doubt it would have anywhere as near the effect on wildlife. As for terrorists, they would have to get a lo, and I mean a lot of warheads to do any real damage. A nuclear bomb stops people breeding just as good, after all ;)

Arnatia:

Thanks for your support, but the weapon's blueprints are only available to Utopian Commonwealth members currently. keep your eyes out for the finished product.

Otagia:

You are 100% right, I hoped know-one would notice that little aspect. There are hormone treatments using the same drugs that cause irreversible damage some of the time, I just don't know the medical name for the ensuing condition. I'll do some R&D immediately on that one. :rolleyes:
The Far Echo Islands
05-11-2007, 22:50
ooc: err, I do forsee that this is having an effect on wild life (ya know, they said DDT was safe too) and as for its effects, I don't see how it is a whole lot better than a noncontagious bacteria such as Anthrax.
Yanitaria
05-11-2007, 23:03
To The Pictish Imperium:

Our presidents premier mistress has stopped taking the pill, citing that she wishes to bear his children. This, however, would bring her to the attention of the first lady, requiring the president to sleep on the first couch.

How much would it cost to have a tactical version dropped on our capitol?

Sincerely,
Martin Goldman,
Minister of Cover-up Schemes.
Nova Pictavia
05-11-2007, 23:05
Echo:
Its a Chemical weapon, not a Bio weapon. The Drug is not biological, thus not capable of replication or sustained contagious effects. It is also water-soluble, basing the exposed life of the weapon upon the life expectancy of the "cradle" compound and the local rainfall. As for effect on the wildlife, it is intended to be a Weapon of Mass Destruction, thus the term 'Green' is used liberally. It can also (through fairly intense mathematical and meteorological calculations) be applied to a specific urban area without overspilling into the country significantly. Either way, it will effect the a percentage of wildlife somewhat, however the effects will vary and certainly will not be the same extent as it effects humans. What is certain however, that the drug will cause *significantly* less damage than all existing forms of WMD.
It exists for but a fraction of a second compared to the life of a Radiological or Biological warhead. The complexity of interspecies hormone make-up, and the technically non-lethal nature of the drug places it as far greener and more humane than other, more traditional chemical weapons, and as for a nuclear warhead, well, you get the point.

Yanitaria:
^_^
Arnatia
06-11-2007, 00:43
OOC: And besides, while it may not be the most practical weapon, depriving a nation of its future is just so much fun, provided they don't know its you, because there gonna be pissed when they find out who did it
Otagia
06-11-2007, 01:00
OOC: And besides, while it may not be the most practical weapon, depriving a nation of its future is just so much fun, provided they don't know its you, because there gonna be pissed when they find out who did it

OOC: Yes, and while they can't breed anymore, they're PERFECTLY capable of picking up a gun and shooting you. Great against a captive audience (say, a nation you've just conquered and would prefer not to fight back), but rather horrifyingly bad against someone with the ability to fight back in any reasonable fashion, as you've just given them a VERY good reason to fight back.
Nova Pictavia
06-11-2007, 01:13
:rolleyes: Duly noted.

However, it is still a fairly effective method of "humane" genocide. I suppose the international consequences would be less severe than if you toasted every man, woman and child in a nuclear inferno: that tends to go down rather badly. Its always an effective method of clearing the conquered territory for your own settlers, or for ensuring the defeated enemy can't completely rearm their military a few generations down the line. Plus, its still an environmentally slightly-friendlier method of warning off potential invaders. Like, by saying "watch out, or I'll melt your winky". I imagine I wouldn't invade if my winky was going to be melted.
Arnatia
06-11-2007, 03:54
OOC: A further use of the weapon, deploy it in secret against an unsuspecting nation, wait and watch as the crisis unfolds, offer to send in medical experts to render assistance, as the nation slides into anarchy and the government collapses (I imagine a complete lack of reproductive capability would cause a nation to collapse) you step in to 'aid' the government and restore law and order, eventually quarantine everyone to prevent this 'unknown disease' from spreading to the rest of humanity, and the country is yours.
Yanitaria
06-11-2007, 04:17
OOC: I can see it now: Women riot in the streets as their reproductive capabilities are cut off by some unknown disease. Crazed, babyless couples now roam the streets touting shotguns, and shooting anyone who does have a baby. However, a large portion of the teenaged boys, and most of the teenaged girls, secretly rejoice in all-night sex parties, which are often raided by the new sterile militia. Often times the party-goers are left dead in improvised baby cradles and diapers.
The Far Echo Islands
06-11-2007, 04:35
OOC: A further use of the weapon, deploy it in secret against an unsuspecting nation, wait and watch as the crisis unfolds, offer to send in medical experts to render assistance, as the nation slides into anarchy and the government collapses (I imagine a complete lack of reproductive capability would cause a nation to collapse) you step in to 'aid' the government and restore law and order, eventually quarantine everyone to prevent this 'unknown disease' from spreading to the rest of humanity, and the country is yours.

Hey, that right there works good. Good Idea on how to use this.

OOC: I can see it now: Women riot in the streets as their reproductive capabilities are cut off by some unknown disease. Crazed, babyless couples now roam the streets touting shotguns, and shooting anyone who does have a baby. However, a large portion of the teenaged boys, and most of the teenaged girls, secretly rejoice in all-night sex parties, which are often raided by the new sterile militia. Often times the party-goers are left dead in improvised baby cradles and diapers.

LOLZ! Mental Images! (and freekin plausible too; folks are crazy like that...)
Yanitaria
06-11-2007, 06:20
To the Pictish Imperium:

Our Nation Takes our Coverups VERY seriously. Further trivialisation will result in our nation covering up the existance of your nation.

That's right, you heard... er, read, correctly! Either bomb us or we will erase you from our citizen's minds. Wont you feel inadequate then?

Indignantly,
Martin Goldman,
Minister of Cover-up Schemes

OOC:didn't see the "^_^". I'm starting to feel like this joke is starting to get really stale, really fast, so I promise that'll be the end of it.
South Lizasauria
06-11-2007, 07:01
OOC: A new WMD, available for export to allies who offer a significant sum. Otherwise open to both IC and OOC comments.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/Retro_1989/INN.jpg

http://i.treehugger.com/files/tag_mclaren_technology_centre.JPG
The Alternative Weapons Research & Development (underground facilities topside entrance)

The Imperium publicly admits Alternative WMD Research

A spokesperson for the Imperium's Alternative Weapons Research & Development Centre (IAWRDC), has recently confirmed the existence of the previously rumored "Progestin Inhibitor-1789-1224". The Chemical Weapon is designed to render a percentage of the target population temporarily or irreversible infertile, severely limiting future reproduction. The drug in question is a reverse-engineered variant of "synthetic progestogen" similar in biological terms to the "progesterone" family. Effectively a mutated and extreme hormone treatment, the Imperium hopes to have a weapons-grade product available by the end of the year. The drug was designed to induce severe Endometrial Hyperplasia caused rather crudely by gross hormonal imbalances in its first stages. Later, as the bodies will no doubt attempt to re-balance themselves, permanent chemical castration will still be the primary symptom as a common result of extreme hormone treatment (Usually occurring after transgender therapy). In testing, norethindrone (19-nor-17α-ethynyltestosterone) was vaporised into a respiratory and orally ingestible compound on weapon destination.
Proposed to be carried as a replacement warhead for any conventional ICBM, "Drug-179-1224" is vaporized in conventional detonation and carried by thermal currents. The density of the undisclosed "Cradle" compound the weaponized form is dissolved in ensures the drug reaches the ground without over-hitting the target area. Gradual evaporation of the Alcoholic elements in the "Cradle" compound reduces the atomic structural integrity of the drug, eventually allowing dissolution in precipitation. This acts as a failsafe, limiting the drug's target magnitude should it fail to descend at high altitudes. Should the chemical then find its way into local water-supplies, even ordinary precautions in the case of chemical assaults will be stretched.

Imperial High Command has stated that the intended purpose of the weapons-grade toxin is to incapacitate the reproductive facilities of a small percentage of the target populace, ensuring that military numbers will not recover so quickly in the coming generations. High Command also stated that it was "...certainly more humane and environmentally stable" concerning the effects of mass-deployed nuclear weaponry.

The initiative to develop more environmentally sound weapons for deployment is currently pending possible contracts with both Leafistan and Aperature Science as well as domestic enterprises, and is expected to continue into the foreseeable future.
Imperial News Feed
October 2007
Dr. J.H.Phay, 2007

OOC: Didn't some major arms dealer nation have something similar called the nemesis strain or virus X or something? :confused:
Nova Pictavia
06-11-2007, 15:17
SL: If they did, it was before my time.

All: So if I opened a storefront to actually sell this stuff, y'all would buy it, right?

*****

IC: Attention Yanitaria:

The Consul was currently on a beachhead in Andalusia when he got the call. He eloquently drove his claymore into the belly of a young Iberian soldier, who fell lifelessly to the ground. There was blood, dirt and ash caked all over the warlords face, and he was in no-mood for phone calls. He raised is .45 Cal pistol and emptied the better part of the magazine into some poor Spanish soul out of sheer frustration before he raised one finger to his earpiece and gave the thing a tap.

"Yes?" The Consul really was quite pissed. Highly pissed, in fact. A quiet and nervous voice came through from the other end,
"Si, si, sir, the Yanitarian government wants us to bomb them... with the new Chemical Weapon, sir... errr... we don't know what to do, sir..." This however, did take the Consul by surprise. He slumped back against the burning carcass of an IFV for a moment, then rejoined the conversation,
"You remember when kids were going around putting flour in envelopes and mailing them to everyone?"
"You mean the Anthrax hoax' sir?"
"Precisely, Do- The Consul was cut short when a screaming Iberian barbarian ran at him, bayonet caked in gore. The Consul dodged the charged, delivered a blow to the back of his head and fired a round into his skull before tapping on his ear-piece again,
"Do it!"

*****

It was a relatively nice day in Yanitaria. Well, relatively nice compared to Iberia right now... Well, it was especially relatively nice until a missile came thundering out of the sky and landed on the Presidents front lawn. As he rushed out to view the spectacle, A possum in goggles crawled out of the warhead, staggered for a bit, and handed the President an envelope. The possum then saluted and collapsed. Significantly late, a series of small-flags shot out of the missile, reading "Surprise!", "Bang!" and "Gotcha!". A couple of seconds later and a short pop marked an extremely sorry display of confetti.

The envelope was, off course, full of flour.
Yanitaria
06-11-2007, 22:39
^-^
Nova Pictavia
10-11-2007, 00:01
*bump*
OOC: Couldn't resist stealing your "BUMP", Kirav...

Anyway, this is the final chance to give your opinions/criticisms of the weapon before it enters the international marketplace, so if you have something to say, now is your chance. All replies, except insults obviously, are gratefully received, including critiques. Thanks, ~PI