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Machine Rifle Seventeen

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Specifications

Action: Gas Operated, Short-Stroke Rotating Bolt
Round Size: 6.7x53mm Imperial
Magazine Size: 30 Rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 900 Metres per Second
Maximum Effective Range: 600 Metres
Rate of Fire: 600 Rounds Per Minute
Modes of Fire: Safety On, Single Shot, Burst (3 Round) Fire
Overall Length: 1 Metre
Barrel Length: 50 Centimetres
Weight (Loaded): 4.5 Kilograms

Export Price: 300 USD per Unit
1.5x Scope w/ Night Vision: 50 USD per Unit

Background

In 2007, the Imperial Party won the Senatorial and Presidential elections on a platform of expansionism and international re-emergence. This included an increase in military spending and a move towards a more self-reliant armaments policy for the Imperial Armed Forces. To begin this process, the Imperial Government licensed Imperial Eagle Armaments (IEA) Corporation, the leading small arms manufacturer in the Imperial Republic, to create an indigenous assault weapon for the Imperial Legions that would replace the Colt M16A2 rifles being imported from the United States of America. The design brief called for specifications similar to the M16, but with an emphasis on reliability and stopping power.

IEA Corp came up with the Rifle Prototype One (RP1), which went through several design phases. Firstly, several firing mechanisms were tested until it was determined that the most reliable method was the short-stroke gas operation used by the AK-47, rather than the direct impingement system of the M16. There were also tests in using a large 8.3mm round, but recoil problems from such a large projectile forced IEA Corp to be more practical. Looking abroad, they decided on the 6.7x53mm Imperial round used by the Doomingsland DR-83M Tactical Rifle as both sufficient for lessened recoil and satisfactory stopping power. Once tests were successful, the weapon was re-designated the Machine Rifle Seventeen (MR-17) and officially put into production.

The MR-17 is designed to be a reliable, fast-firing weapon similar in respects to the M16A2 and the venerable AK-47. Utilising the short-stroke firing system, the MR-17 avoids the increased frequency of fouling found in the direct impingement system of the M16, resulting in less maintenance and an increased lifespan for each weapon. Similarly, the MR-17 is built to reduce weight, and uses a lighter frame-based buttstock to reduce the overall effort to carry. The MR-17 is also easier to maintain due to the ease in which to dissasemble the weapon, utilising simple bolt-on parts rather than welded sections. The MR-17 utilises a simple, detachable rear ironsights that can be replaced with a variety of telescopic instruments produced by IEA Corp. The weapon is to begin phased acceptance by the Imperial Armed Forces, and is expected to become the sole primary arm of all branches within three months.

Sales Figures

Republic of Urmania - 10,000 units - $3,000,000

OOC: Sorry for interrupting with just an OOC post, but I have some comments: Firstly, it really reminds me of a G3A3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G3a3) in many aspects (Except choice of round), although with a longer barrel length. I'm not entirely sure if its really necessary though. Also I'd probably have it slightly heavier, perhaps at 4.5K - 5K (Loaded). The stock accounts for the (quite) long-range, although you may be able to get away with increasing the rate of fire. Don't take my word solely for all of this, there are probably many better designers out there who have given you advice contradictory to this, and I'd listen to them first. Overall though, I like it.

OOC: Thankyou for the comments, I will increase the weight of the weapon.

OOC: Sorry for interrupting with just an OOC post, but I have some comments: Firstly, it really reminds me of a G3A3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G3a3) in many aspects (Except choice of round), although with a longer barrel length. I'm not entirely sure if its really necessary though. Also I'd probably have it slightly heavier, perhaps at 4.5K - 5K (Loaded). The stock accounts for the (quite) long-range, although you may be able to get away with increasing the rate of fire. Don't take my word solely for all of this, there are probably many better designers out there who have given you advice contradictory to this, and I'd listen to them first. Overall though, I like it.
OOC: I'm sorry but none of that is true. This particular weapon has virtually nothing in common with the G3A3 from what I can see (totally different operating system, totally different ergonomics, hell its a different kind of rifle altogether (AR as opposed to battle rifle)). Your idea for weight is also pretty inflated, this should be 4kg at the most, and stock has practically nothing to do with range. Increasing the rate of fire will also do absolutely nothing to increase range, and only serve to make it harder to control.

OOC: Sorry, I was far from clear and babbled, you have misunderstood. The Image (And many of the weapons stats seemed on a par) reminded myself of the G3A3. The Rate of Fire has nothing to do with stabilization, i just thought that it would be an easy way to improve the rifle while remaining within its specifications. As for the barrel length, that was the only reason I could find behind it (Sorry, I meant 'Barrel length' instead of stock- I'm tired, just a typo. As for weight, I thought that with a 30 round 6.7x53mm magazine it was perhaps a little light, although I retract the 5KG estimate. As I said, I am far from more than a beginner on this subject.

OOC: Just wanted to point out a typo, your barrel length states centimetres, when it should be in millimetres, unless you're planning on having a five metre long barrel! Personally, I would go with a shorter barrel, most infantry engagements are within a few hundred metres, longer barrels aren't necessary, and shorter ones are easier for houseclearing, entering and exiting vehicles, etc. That's just personal preference however.

I think that 900 meters per second for muzzle velocity is a bit high, the only comparable round I know of is the 6.5 Grendel which can travel about 857 - 880 meters per second at best and travels about 525 meters. When talking about assault rifles, larger bullets travel slower and shorter, what really makes the difference with an ammo type of that size is the kinetic energy it has when it impacts a target.

An example:

Your average 5.56 x 45 NATO weapon hits about 940 meters per second but produces just under 1.7 kilojoules of kinetic energy. They can travel about 550 meters accurately

Your average 7.62 x 39 NATO hits about 750 meters per second but produces nearly 2 kilojoules of kinetic energy.They can travel about 500 meters accurately.

Faster traveling bullets are more likely to pierce body armor while slower heavier ones have better stopping power and can shoot through say.. brick walls.

OOC: Adjusted the rate of fire according to that which is recommended.

I think that 900 meters per second for muzzle velocity is a bit high, the only comparable round I know of is the 6.5 Grendel which can travel about 857 - 880 meters per second at best and travels about 525 meters. When talking about assault rifles, larger bullets travel slower and shorter, what really makes the difference with an ammo type of that size is the kinetic energy it has when it impacts a target.

6.7x53mm has alot more powder behind the projectile than 6.5mm Grendel, and as a result should have a much higher velocity, as it does in this case. As such, his 900mps muzzle velocity is perfectly reasonable.

Well, I neve claimed to know it all. I made my observations based on what I know on the 6.5 Grendel, 5.56 and 7.62 NATO.. the velocity and range of those rounds are far different. Smaller usually equals faster and longer range until you hit right around 10.2 mm

Its more of a matter of weight than diameter in that aspect.

OOC: Bump

OOC: SaintB, there's no such thing as a 7.62x39mm NATO, so would you please clarify whether you're talking about the soviet or the x51mm NATO round. Also, alot depends on the bullets, and powder loads used as well. Not to mention the rifle in question, while an AK's range may only be a few hundred meters, a better quality rifle with a better bullet and differing powder loads could get notably superior performance, just look at the 77gr 5.56 rounds (forget designation, believe there sierra matchking bullets loaded by Black Hills, with a small hollow point for superior performance) starting to see use in Iraq, and I believe Afghanistan (mostly contractors I believe, as I dont think there cleared for general military use yet) they have notably better performance over the current standard 5.56 rounds, which were pretty good already

OOC: Bump

OOC: Sorry for interrupting with just an OOC post, but I have some comments: Firstly, it really reminds me of a G3A3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G3a3) in many aspects (Except choice of round), although with a longer barrel length. I'm not entirely sure if its really necessary though. Also I'd probably have it slightly heavier, perhaps at 4.5K - 5K (Loaded). The stock accounts for the (quite) long-range, although you may be able to get away with increasing the rate of fire. Don't take my word solely for all of this, there are probably many better designers out there who have given you advice contradictory to this, and I'd listen to them first. Overall though, I like it.
OOc: Actually it looks like you`ve borrowed from both the HK G-3 and the AR-15/M-16 designs.

OOC: SaintB, there's no such thing as a 7.62x39mm NATO, so would you please clarify whether you're talking about the soviet or the x51mm NATO round. Also, alot depends on the bullets, and powder loads used as well. Not to mention the rifle in question, while an AK's range may only be a few hundred meters, a better quality rifle with a better bullet and differing powder loads could get notably superior performance, just look at the 77gr 5.56 rounds (forget designation, believe there sierra matchking bullets loaded by Black Hills, with a small hollow point for superior performance) starting to see use in Iraq, and I believe Afghanistan (mostly contractors I believe, as I dont think there cleared for general military use yet) they have notably better performance over the current standard 5.56 rounds, which were pretty good already

It was a typo, I meant 51 NATO, I'm not sure where I got 39 from

OOC: Bump

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It was a typo, I meant 51 NATO, I'm not sure where I got 39 from

You got it from the 7.62x39R. Its a good first rifle, probably won't see many sales outside your nation, but I like the idea of using Doomingsland sized weapons. That being said, I have a proposal.

General Resources Conglomerate

Hello, and we are the GRC, the largest corporation in Leafanistan and a multitrillion USD company. We wish to invest in your new rifle, simply because it uses a DDI round.

We know you are an up and coming nation we are offering a very generous 500 million USD for the production and sales rights of the rifle. We also offer you 15% of the gross profit for every rifle we sell. How does that sound?

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General Resources Conglomerate

Hello, and we are the GRC, the largest corporation in Leafanistan and a multitrillion USD company. We wish to invest in your new rifle, simply because it uses a DDI round.

We know you are an up and coming nation we are offering a very generous 500 million USD for the production and sales rights of the rifle. We also offer you 15% of the gross profit for every rifle we sell. How does that sound?

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Official Communique from IEA Corp.

We would be very interested in the proposal put forward, and would therefore agree to this deal. We would further like to request the possibility of being informed of sales of this weapon for our own records.

Sales Department

Republic of Urmania want to buy 10000 of these=3000000$

Republic of Urmania want to buy 10000 of these=3000000$

Official Communique

Order Confirmed. Thankyou for your interest in the products of Imperial Eagle Armaments Corporation.

Sales Department.

Official Communique from IEA Corp.

We would be very interested in the proposal put forward, and would therefore agree to this deal. We would further like to request the possibility of being informed of sales of this weapon for our own records.

Sales Department

Encrypted Reply

You have been given top level clearance to view sales of your weapons on our database.

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OOC: This just means you can view whatever 'Encrypted' 'Classified' post that has to do with your weapons on my storefront page.