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Atheism made illegal in DoubleWideville

DoubleWideville
29-10-2007, 20:39
Holy Empire of DoubleWideville Newsreport
In a move that has been long in coming, King David the II and the Assmebly of Ministers have declared Atheism to be an illegal belief system in the Holy Empire of DoubleWideville.
"Its is a contradiction and an affront to our God, Jesus Christ, for unbelievers and misbelievers to be in the Holy Empire of DoubleWideville. As such the Assembly of Ministers and King David the II, have declared Atheism to be an evil, deviant belief system" said an inside source, from the Royal Palace, in New Jerusalem.
This announcement from the Royal Palace and the Assembly of Ministers has caused a massive movement of Atheists trickling out of the borders of DoubleWideville.
The penalty for Atheism has been passed into law to be ten years in prison. Officials inside the Royal Palace and the Assembly of Ministers believe that this will procure the blessings of Jesus Christ on our holy and righteous nation.
Katislov
29-10-2007, 20:57
The Empire of Katislov condemms the actions of DoubleWideville and will send a transport convoy to rescue and refugees that are escaping and take them back to Katislov where they will be given jobs and homes.

Martin Fen
Foreign Minister
Deurem
29-10-2007, 21:03
Official Statement of the Socialist Republic of Deurem

Who are you to say which belief's are right and which ones are wrong? Intolerance leads to violence and we cannot let that happen. Be warned any actions deemed "unjustified" against the Atheists will be meet accordinly.
America0
29-10-2007, 21:08
Official Statement from the President of the United States of Amerca0

The United States officially condemns the actions of DoubleWideville. U.S. Army evac teams will be on station to evacuate those fleeing religious oppression.

Wesley Hunter
President of the United States
Dyelli Beybi
29-10-2007, 21:19
Official Statement from the Prime Minister of Dyelli Beybi

While Dyelli Beybi is a devout Nation with a State religion we do not support or condone any action to ban a belief system. Furthermore, we cannot see any logical manner in which a ban on atheism could ever be enforced. Unlike other religions which may hold strong views upon attending worship, Dyelli Beybi cannot see how atheists would not simply impersonate adherance to another religion and simply not believe in it within the privacy of their own heads. We advocate this path to all atheist persons within DoubleWideville.
The NCLI Corporation
29-10-2007, 21:27
Official Statement from the Glorious Benevolent Dictator of The NCLI Corporation, Lord Il Palazzo.

We deeply condemn the actions taken by the Holy Empire of DoubleWideville. We will be sending Our 1rd, 2nd, 4th, & 11th brigade to the border, and We ask the honorable leaders in other countries to join Us in a total blockade of the Holy Empire's border.

We intend to continue the blockade until this law is abolished, and the countries religious policy brought into compliance with UN Resolution #19.

Spokesman for His Excellency Lord Il Palazzo,
Mamoru Miyano.
Conserative Morality
29-10-2007, 21:35
We see why you would want to do such a thing but we cant see why you would put it in action!We christians were once peresecuted and now you wish to do the same to another religion!?(well atheism is as much a religion as bald is a hair colour but you know)I'm afraid I will have to unleash our orbital defnse platforms to blockade your country.
:sniper::sniper:
:gundge::gundge:
Pan-Arab Barronia
29-10-2007, 21:40
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Your actions quite frankly disgust us. We must, in the name of human decency, condemn your actions entirely and completely. Your actions are belligerant and show all the competency of running a government as a monkey. Nay, that insults monkeys. Amoeba, perhaps, or maybe zoo plankton. Either way, we will be sending ships to remove the atheists the you have displaced - for the record, the head of the operation will be an atheist. And if one of our ships is harmed, then woe betide your leaders.
Shenyang
29-10-2007, 21:40
Shenyangi News Network:

In response to the recent declaration by Doublewideville that Atheism would be deemed illegal, Shenyangi government officials announced today that any and all Doublewidian Atheists are welcome to come to Shenyang to escape religious persecution.

This step is being reinforced by the Shenyangi government asking the private airline sector to increase the number of flights into and out of Doublewideville. This as yet unprecedented step marks a new page in the realm of government action to maintain the rights of citizens around the world.
Lord Sumguy
29-10-2007, 21:41
We see why you would want to do such a thing but we cant see why you would put it in action!We christians were once peresecuted and now you wish to do the same to another religion!?(well atheism is as much a religion as bald is a hair colour but you know)I'm afraid I will have to unleash our orbital defnse platforms to blockade your country.
:sniper::sniper:
:gundge::gundge:

OOc: you cant afford orbital defense platforms.
The NCLI Corporation
29-10-2007, 21:46
OCC: Yeah, keep it realistic.
Shenyang
29-10-2007, 21:53
OOC: He could have like, 1, maybe 2 if he doesn't have a military other than them. Of course, you need a minimum of 3 for any kind of blockade, so that you can effectively encircle the target, but I digress. The whole argurment is moot of course, because it would be folly to expect a nation to buy 2 orbital weapons platforms, and then not have any military. Leaves you a little open.
Lenny Harris
29-10-2007, 22:07
Statement from Lenny of the Empire of Lenny Harris

What's wrong with live and let live? But whatever, man. Just giving a suggestion. It is, after all, your country.
East Lithuania
29-10-2007, 22:09
To: King David II of DoubleWideville
From: Dictator Scharfetter of East Lithuania

Your Highness,

We disapprove of these actions, yet we will not take any hostile options against you. We move towards a more peaceful reaon. We will take those that are Athiest out of your country and will not defy them the right to free will of religion. Their beliefs (or lack there of) should not be punished. I hope you agree with us on this issue.

Dictator Scharfetter
East Lithuania
Bredford
29-10-2007, 22:15
To: DoubleWideville

From: Bredford Goverment Department of Defence

Since Bredford is purely Atheistic nation (%100 nonreligious), your actions are considered very offensive to us.

You have 48 hours to stop this... madness.

Unless, we will destroy you.

We hate you, and not a good day,

William Alberta, Bredford's minister of Defence.
The New Aryan State
29-10-2007, 22:23
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Bundesrepublik des Neuen Arischen Staat
Büro der Internationalen Angelegenheiten

The NAS condemns this senseless persecution of its' own citizens by the government of DoubleWideville. Freedom of belief, or non-belief, is a basic human right, and to deprive their own people of this is barbaric and unworthy of a civilised state.

The NAS will welcome any individual or family fleeing religious persecution in DoubleWideville with the open arms, and open minds, which their own leaders cannot provide.


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Adrian Lammert
Officer of Foreign Affairs
Alfegos
29-10-2007, 22:27
Alfegos Foreign Ministry
Al'Fego Au'Fego Sou'Rai

To Doublewideville
Ai BiaLosVi

We wish to inform your nation of what will happen if you do not stop this persecution:
1) Your nation will be set upon by a ravaging pack of others, who will use this as an excuse to take your land and slay manh of your people.
2) Alfegos will not try to stop them.
3) Alfegos will call upon its many connections to bring down a much more decisive diplomatic force that will stop this activity.

We hope you will come to your senses. Until then, we cannot guarentee your safety.
The Blub Colony
29-10-2007, 22:30
To: DoubleWideville

From: Bredford Goverment Department of Defence

Since Bredford is purely Atheistic nation (%100 nonreligious), your actions are considered very offensive to us.

You have 48 hours to stop this... madness.

Unless, we will destroy you.

We hate you, and not a good day,

William Alberta, Bredford's minister of Defence.

To: Those Involved
From: The Mighty Blub Colony

Stop with the threats already. This is clearly a petty dictatorship whom will disappear in a week or three and never be heard from again. Every other week a tiny nation like this steps up into the public spotlight and proudly announces some stupid new law or act.

Just offer to help those displaced refugees and give them a good home and new life. Then sit back and let this "Doublewideville" fall apart on its own.

Further, to prevent this from becoming a global issue, the MIGHTY Blub Colony will be deploying naval forces to the region to serve two purposes. First, we will keep these trigger-happy nations from invading, attacking or otherwise harassing "Doublewideville". Secondly, we will prevent "Doublewideville" naval forces from leaving their own territorial waters of 75 miles from the coast. Thus recognized by the Blub Sea Treaty Act, Article 2.

That is all.
The NCLI Corporation
29-10-2007, 22:36
To: DoubleWideville

From: Bredford Goverment Department of Defence

Since Bredford is purely Atheistic nation (%100 nonreligious), your actions are considered very offensive to us.

You have 48 hours to stop this... madness.

Unless, we will destroy you.

We hate you, and not a good day,

William Alberta, Bredford's minister of Defence.

After much internal debate and the subsequent public execution of Our former Foreign Advisor, Maaya Sakamoto, We have decided to take a more aggressive stance on the issue and purchase 150 Juggernaut missiles, which will arrive near the Holy Empire's border within 24 hours.

We will then wait for the time stated in the ultimatum from The Commonwealth of Bredford to run out, and when it does, all 150 missiles will be targeted at key military bases, religious centers, and administrative facilities in the Holy Empire.

You have 48 hours.

Spokesman for His Excellency Lord Il Palazzo,
Mamoru Miyano.
Bredford
29-10-2007, 22:37
To: Those Involved
From: The Mighty Blub Colony

Stop with the threats already. This is clearly a petty dictatorship whom will disappear in a week or three and never be heard from again. Every other week a tiny nation like this steps up into the public spotlight and proudly announces some stupid new law or act.

Just offer to help those displaced refugees and give them a good home and new life. Then sit back and let this "Doublewideville" fall apart on its own.

Further, to prevent this from becoming a global issue, the MIGHTY Blub Colony will be deploying naval forces to the region to serve two purposes. First, we will keep these trigger-happy nations from invading, attacking or otherwise harassing "Doublewideville". Secondly, we will prevent "Doublewideville" naval forces from leaving their own territorial waters of 75 miles from the coast. Thus recognized by the Blub Sea Treaty Act, Article 2.

That is all.

To: Mighty Blub Colony

From: Bredford Goverment

OK
Bagdavlyushistan
29-10-2007, 22:39
While the Godless Horde of the Tribes of Bagdavyushistan is in fact Godless, neither this nor anything else will prevent us from stating our ill-informed opinion on this and any other issue that we happen to run across.

Doublewideville, while your action is clearly intended to get a rise out of everyone else, it does reveal both your own hypocrisy and that of your detractors. Kicking people out for not professing your faith is not going to make your nation more pure. It will in fact speed up the seemingly-inevitable perversion of the faith that has characterized every attempt to join church and state. (Yes, I'm talking to you, Rome.) If Christ wanted us to use secular power to force people into His Kingdom, don't you think he would have told us so? Treating them as they treated us isn't Christian. Read Matthew 7:12 sometime soon.

That said, Doublewideville is your nation and you have every right to decide who lives there and who doesn't. What happens ion your borders is your own business.

As for the hypocrisy of everyone else ... think for a moment how ridiculous you sound. You say things like, "Who are you to say what's right and true," and then a sentence later you pass judgment on Doublewideville's actions, threatening a military response to actions that are not on the surface violent to the atheist population. Who are you, Deurem, to say that DWV is wrong here? If there are no absolutes -- and Christianity, not atheism, is based on absolutes -- then no behavior can be right or wrong. It can only be agreeable or offensive to you, and not necessarily to anyone else. And is being offended now grounds for a war of annihilation, Bredford? Way to show how much better you are than those awful intolerant warmongering Christians everyone's been complaining about the last hundred years, fellers.

Besides, as everyone -- or at least every atheist -- knows, all the smart people are atheists. So some of you others take them in, settle them, and put them to work for you. If the US can get a space program out of Nazi scientists after WWII, surely y'all can get something useful out of a bunch of "smart" people.
The NCLI Corporation
29-10-2007, 22:40
To: Those Involved
From: The Mighty Blub Colony

Stop with the threats already. This is clearly a petty dictatorship whom will disappear in a week or three and never be heard from again. Every other week a tiny nation like this steps up into the public spotlight and proudly announces some stupid new law or act.

Just offer to help those displaced refugees and give them a good home and new life. Then sit back and let this "Doublewideville" fall apart on its own.

Further, to prevent this from becoming a global issue, the MIGHTY Blub Colony will be deploying naval forces to the region to serve two purposes. First, we will keep these trigger-happy nations from invading, attacking or otherwise harassing "Doublewideville". Secondly, we will prevent "Doublewideville" naval forces from leaving their own territorial waters of 75 miles from the coast. Thus recognized by the Blub Sea Treaty Act, Article 2.

That is all.
We do not wish for global conflict, but We believe immediate military action is the best way to deal with discrimination of this type.
The NCLI Corporation will not change its stance on this issue, and We hope that you will not try to get in our way.


Spokesman for His Excellency Lord Il Palazzo,
Mamoru Miyano.
Bredford
29-10-2007, 22:45
After much internal debate and the subsequent public exeution of Our former Foreign Advisor, Maaya Sakamoto, We have decided to take a more aggresive stance on the issue and purchase 150 Juggernaut missiles, which will arrive in the Holy Empire's border within 24 hours.

We will then wait for the time stated in the ultimatum from The Commonwealth of Bredford to run out, and when it does, all 150 missiles will be targeted at key military bases, religious centers, and administrative facilities in your Holy Empire.

You have 48 hours.


Spokesman for His Excellency Lord Il Palazzo,
Mamoru Miyano.

To: NCIL Corporation

From: Bredford Goverment

It is clear that you cannot read.

But due to your threathing, we might have to attack you.

You have excatly 48 hours to remove the 48-hours ultimatum you gave us.
Shenyang
29-10-2007, 22:49
OOC: I'm pretty sure NCIL is shooting at DWV, not you Bredford, then again, I could be wrong. Still, it sounds like its meant for DWV, not you.
The NCLI Corporation
29-10-2007, 22:50
To: NCIL Corporation

From: Bredford Goverment

It is clear that you cannot read.

But due to your threathing, we might have to attack you.

You have exactly 48 hours to remove the 48-hours ultimatum you gave us.

I am afraid that you misunderstand Our message. We intend to follow the 48 hour ultimatum you gave to The Holy Empire, not give a 48 hour ultimatum to you.

The Foreign Ministry's Administrative Department apologizes for the misunderstanding, and empathizes that the person who wrote the message will be executed for incompetence later this week.

Spokesman for His Excellency Lord Il Palazzo,
Mamoru Miyano.
Ordo Drakul
29-10-2007, 22:50
The Voivode of Ordo Drakul requests permission to send an observer to these trials, as We are curious exactly how one goes about proving belief or non-belief beyond a reasonable doubt.
Alfegos
29-10-2007, 22:50
(Ouch: Aren't we two having a bit of an arguement?)

Alfegos wishes to remind Bredford of its status in Alfegos, and how it would take a plummeting should you attack this nation of NCLIC without reason.
Why, you forgot about the Alfegosian support you can call upon...

(Remember the Polinas Deadlands...)
Atlantiis
29-10-2007, 22:53
Official Statement of The Holy Empire of Atlantiis, from Empress Rev herself:

As has been said by many other nations, Atlantiis finds the actions of Doublewideville very unfair towards athiests. However, this is your nation to run, and I am in no position to tell you what is right or wrong, seeing as I've got my own issues that need dealing with when it comes to ruling a nation. Any athiests being kicked out can already see there are many nations willing to take them in with open arms, including my own.

Regards,
Empress of Atlantiis
Bredford
29-10-2007, 22:53
I am afraid that you cannot read. We intend to follow the 48 hour ultimatum you gave to The Holy Empire, not give a 48 hour ultimatum to you.

The administrative department apologizes for the misunderstanding, and empathizes that the person who wrote the message will be executed for incompetence later this week.

Spokesman for His Excellency Lord Il Palazzo,
Mamoru Miyano.

Its still appears you can't read.

we removed our Ultimatum by pressure from the Bulbs.

However, your message misled us, be careful not to do that again.
The Blub Colony
29-10-2007, 22:54
We do not wish for global conflict, but We believe immediate military action is the only proper way to deal with discrimination of this type.
The NCLI Corporation will not change its stance on this issue, and We hope that you will not try to get in our way.


Spokesman for His Excellency Lord Il Palazzo,
Mamoru Miyano.

We are unsure of what these "Juggalo" missiles you are talking about mean, but we can only assume they are WMDs of some type. Thus, by proxy, you are threatening the Blub Colony with said weapons.

We will re-state our position. We will not allow the nation of "Doublewideville" to come under attack, and thus provoke a global situation. Instead, an element of the Colonal Defense Force Navy will deploy to ensure that the peace is kept.

We ask that all parties threatening war and strikes immedietly stand down. As for "The NCLI Corporation" your threats with WMDs have been noted. Don't wave your WMDs at us again, or we will be forced into taking action which you will not appreciate.

- Colonial Defense Force
Xaphian
29-10-2007, 22:56
Official Statement From: The Democratic States of Xaphian



Due to the increased hostility from The Holy Empire of DoubleWideville to the Atheists, The Democratic States of Xaphian is now opening its borders to the Atheists that are deported from the Holy Empire. The Democratic States of Xaphian is thoroughly disgusted by the ignorance of The Holy Empire of DoubleWideville, and wishes that the Emperor of the Holy Empire of DoubleWideville will change his mind, and be more tolerant of the "sinners", a word used explicitly for people that do things against the guidelines of a religion, known as Atheists. And Atheism is not a sin, if you have ever read the bible.
Pan-Arab Barronia
29-10-2007, 23:03
We are unsure of what these "Juggalo" missiles you are talking about mean, but we can only assume they are WMDs of some type. Thus, by proxy, you are threatening the Blub Colony with said weapons.

We will re-state our position. We will not allow the nation of "Doublewideville" to come under attack, and thus provoke a global situation. Instead, an element of the Colonal Defense Force Navy will deploy to ensure that the peace is kept.

We ask that all parties threatening war and strikes immedietly stand down. As for "The NCLI Corporation" your threats with WMDs have been noted. Don't wave your WMDs at us again, or we will be forced into taking action which you will not appreciate.

- Colonial Defense Force

OOC: Nice to see you back. Nice time away from II?

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Perhaps the Blubs would like to do a little research before they shout WMD and make threats of their own.

The "Juggernaut", as it is correctly known, is a Short Range Ballistic Missile designed to carry explosives of up to 9 tonnes of TNT in equivalence. We use them as fireworks, albeit expensive ones. Hardly WMD quality.

If we see the Blub colony take action against a nation that has done it no harm and has, in fact, not threatened Blub, but another nation, with semi-precise anti-bunker weaponry, rest assured we will take action that you will not appreciate.

Have some common sense, will you?

Yours,

Amelie St Claire
Magisteriate for External Affairs
The NCLI Corporation
29-10-2007, 23:03
We are unsure of what these "Juggalo" missiles you are talking about mean, but we can only assume they are WMDs of some type. Thus, by proxy, you are threatening the Blub Colony with said weapons.

We will re-state our position. We will not allow the nation of "Doublewideville" to come under attack, and thus provoke a global situation. Instead, an element of the Colonal Defense Force Navy will deploy to ensure that the peace is kept.

We ask that all parties threatening war and strikes immedietly stand down. As for "The NCLI Corporation" your threats with WMDs have been noted. Don't wave your WMDs at us again, or we will be forced into taking action which you will not appreciate.

- Colonial Defense Force

This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541960) is a Juggernaut missile, and in Our opinion, it doesn't not classify for status of WMD, as it only affects a relatively small area, and the effects are short-termed.

If We wished to use WMDs We would use our Nuclear Missile, but we have no wish to do this, as we believe WMDs are for discouragement, not war.

Regardless, we never said that we would fire those missiles at you, we merely hoped that you would allow us to continue our operation, as we recognize your military superiority.

If you refuse to let us continue, we will withdraw our ultimatum for now, but continue Our blockade of the border.

Its still appears you can't read.

we removed our Ultimatum by pressure from the Bulbs.

However, your message misled us, be careful not to do that again.

Please refrain from personal insults, as We have not insulted or threatened you in any way.

Spokesman for His Excellency Lord Il Palazzo,
Mamoru Miyano.
The NCLI Corporation
29-10-2007, 23:06
OOC: Nice to see you back. Nice time away from II?

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Perhaps the Blubs would like to do a little research before they shout WMD and make threats of their own.

The "Juggernaut", as it is correctly known, is a Short Range Ballistic Missile designed to carry explosives of up to 9 tonnes of TNT in equivalence. We use them as fireworks, albeit expensive ones. Hardly WMD quality.

If we see the Blub colony take action against a nation that has done it no harm and has, in fact, not threatened Blub, but another nation, with semi-precise anti-bunker weaponry, rest assured we will take action that you will not appreciate.

Have some common sense, will you?

Yours,

Amelie St Claire
Magisteriate for External Affairs

Our Lord thanks you wholeheartedly for your support.

Spokesman for His Excellency Lord Il Palazzo,
Mamoru Miyano.
Pan-Arab Barronia
29-10-2007, 23:10
Our Lord thanks you wholeheartedly for your support.

Spokesman for His Excellency Lord Il Palazzo,
Mamoru Miyano.

You are more than welcome - whilst we can in no way condone your actions, and must request that you do not attack for fear of loss of innocent life, we will not, in any way shape or form, allow such like the Blubs to push young nations around.
The Blub Colony
29-10-2007, 23:15
OOC: Nice to see you back. Nice time away from II?

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Perhaps the Blubs would like to do a little research before they shout WMD and make threats of their own.

The "Juggernaut", as it is correctly known, is a Short Range Ballistic Missile designed to carry explosives of up to 9 tonnes of TNT in equivalence. We use them as fireworks, albeit expensive ones. Hardly WMD quality.

If we see the Blub colony take action against a nation that has done it no harm and has, in fact, not threatened Blub, but another nation, with semi-precise anti-bunker weaponry, rest assured we will take action that you will not appreciate.

Have some common sense, will you?

Yours,

Amelie St Claire
Magisteriate for External Affairs


OOC: Not too bad. Got some stuff taken care of, y'know?

IC:

Reply,

Ballistic weaponry or not, the missiles were referred to as if they had some sort of WMD type capability. One does not often brag over missiles that are a mere 9 tons of TNT.

Further, we did not threaten to take any action at all premptively against those nations threatening "Doublewideville". We simply stated that we would take necessary action to see that no one starts a war with them and thus cause undue bloodshed and suffering.

As you can see, the nations threatening military action have backed down. In the end, the Colonial Defense Force taking charge of the situation worked out well and there will be no warfare. We will restrict "Doublewideville" to its territorial waters and at the same time prevent invasion.

Perhaps everyone here will learn a little something about how to handle a crisis.

- Colonial Command, Blubland
Gortania
29-10-2007, 23:18
We are apalled NOT at DoubleWideville's policy but at the nations opposing it. The Empire of Gortania long ago destroyed not only atheism but religion opposing Christianity. And the Empire WILL come to the defense of this Holy Nation if the heathens raise a hand against its courageous act!

The Empire Of Gortania
The NCLI Corporation
29-10-2007, 23:18
You are more than welcome - whilst we can in no way condone your actions, and must request that you do not attack for fear of loss of innocent life, we will not, in any way shape or form, allow such like the Blubs to push young nations around.

We understand your point, and still thank you for your help in sorting out this crisis.

OOC: Not too bad. Got some stuff taken care of, y'know?

IC:

Reply,

Ballistic weaponry or not, the missiles were referred to as if they had some sort of WMD type capability. One does not often brag over missiles that are a mere 9 tons of TNT.

Further, we did not threaten to take any action at all premptively against those nations threatening "Doublewideville". We simply stated that we would take necessary action to see that no one starts a war with them and thus cause undue bloodshed and suffering.

As you can see, the nations threatening military action have backed down. In the end, the Colonial Defense Force taking charge of the situation worked out well and there will be no warfare. We will restrict "Doublewideville" to its territorial waters and at the same time prevent invasion.

Perhaps everyone here will learn a little something about how to handle a crisis.

- Colonial Command, Blubland

We never implied any WMD capability in the Juggernaut missiles. We intended to use them to destroy specific military targets, considering the high penetration ability of the missiles they would be useful for destroying underground bunkers and silos.

To show our intention to cooperate with Blubland, We will order the land forces stationed at the Holy Empire's border to intercept all incoming military forces from other countries.

Spokesman for His Excellency Lord Il Palazzo,
Mamoru Miyano.
Pan-Arab Barronia
29-10-2007, 23:25
OOC: Not too bad. Got some stuff taken care of, y'know?

IC:

Reply,

Ballistic weaponry or not, the missiles were referred to as if they had some sort of WMD type capability. One does not often brag over missiles that are a mere 9 tons of TNT.

Further, we did not threaten to take any action at all premptively against those nations threatening "Doublewideville". We simply stated that we would take necessary action to see that no one starts a war with them and thus cause undue bloodshed and suffering.

As you can see, the nations threatening military action have backed down. In the end, the Colonial Defense Force taking charge of the situation worked out well and there will be no warfare. We will restrict "Doublewideville" to its territorial waters and at the same time prevent invasion.

Perhaps everyone here will learn a little something about how to handle a crisis.

- Colonial Command, Blubland

OOC: Good stuff. It's been quiet without you - we in Barronia have had no-one to argue with! Good times, goooood times...

Indeed. We are admiring of your willingness to step into the situation, we must admit - if we can spare some ships from our roster, we may be able to second your aims. At the moment, however, a large portion of our military navy is working on our colonial acquisition programmes and working directly with our protectorate.

That said, we apologise for our misunderstanding.

Amelie St Claire
The Blub Colony
29-10-2007, 23:34
OOC: Good stuff. It's been quiet without you - we in Barronia have had no-one to argue with! Good times, goooood times...

Indeed. We are admiring of your willingness to step into the situation, we must admit - if we can spare some ships from our roster, we may be able to second your aims. At the moment, however, a large portion of our military navy is working on our colonial acquisition programmes and working directly with our protectorate.

That said, we apologise for our misunderstanding.

Amelie St Claire

ooc: Good ole days, huh? ^.^

IC:

We simply tired of the same old thing. Seems like every few years (Every other day RL) a jackass gets control of a nation and sets a course for self-destruction. The international community is always more than happy to oblige and wars start.

We would rather see this time at least, try to go over without much in the way of bloodshed. We will be allowing transport out of Doublewideville of displaced atheists and refugees of course, but will keep military forces to their territorial areas.

Considering Doublewideville's small size and limited capabilities, we probably will not need help. It's doubtful they would attack us for simply keeping the peace. However the offer is noted and appreciated.

You can tell your allies (NCLI) and such that we have taken no offense and that it was wise of them to not go full-bore into combat as many other young nations often do.

- Colonial Command, Blubland
The Silver Sky
29-10-2007, 23:39
The Armed Capitalist Republic of The Silver Sky
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Department of Foreign Relations

So instead of allowing nations like the Blub to push nations their own size around, Barronia will itself take to pushing young nations around? A nation as old as yours should know how to act it's age, especially when there are much bigger and stronger fish in the pond.

The Blubs have taken the right road, the warhead on such a missile could be swaped out for nuclear, chemical or biological ones fairly easily, and as such it is standard course to take all weapons ballistic in nature as WMDs until you are sure that they are not, which could be too late if they are.

While we have taken note that the situation has become much less tense following the clearing up of some words, we would like to warn Barronia that a much more, eager, nation could have easily jumped the gun.

Don't splash around in the water too much, you'll attract attention.

Kara H. Maddox
Kara H. Maddox
President of The Armed Capitalist Republic
Crookfur
29-10-2007, 23:39
Keith Langsrig was finding the situation very amusing, it had been awhile since he had taken the time to watch small antions squable, the Blub intervention did kind of take the endge off thigns but the whole thign had it's priceless moments: First the random posturing over misaddressed threats, then nations claiming to soemhow have perfect knowledge of the DoubleWidevillian military and civil infranstructure, then people threating to fire missiles that could not possibly reach thier targets, even if by some miracle suffient personnel and launch infrastructure could be scared up within 48hrs...


OOC:
The NCLI Corporation: Did you even bother to look at the range of the Juggernaut? unless you share a land border with DoubleWideville they would be effectively useless in this situation.
Pan-Arab Barronia
30-10-2007, 00:00
The Armed Capitalist Republic of The Silver Sky
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Department of Foreign Relations

So instead of allowing nations like the Blub to push nations their own size around, Barronia will itself take to pushing young nations around? A nation as old as yours should know how to act it's age, especially when there are much bigger and stronger fish in the pond.

The Blubs have taken the right road, the warhead on such a missile could be swaped out for nuclear, chemical or biological ones fairly easily, and as such it is standard course to take all weapons ballistic in nature as WMDs until you are sure that they are not, which could be too late if they are.

While we have taken note that the situation has become much less tense following the clearing up of some words, we would like to warn Barronia that a much more, eager, nation could have easily jumped the gun.

Don't splash around in the water too much, you'll attract attention.

Kara H. Maddox
Kara H. Maddox
President of The Armed Capitalist Republic

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Please. We fail to see where we have been pushing nations around. Perhaps you comprehension fails you? The Blubs are hardly a young nation by any means; they know the score, as do we. We were protecting the interests of NCIB, they preventing a conflict.

As it goes, we happen to be in the business of protecting younger nations - Aperture Science and Skamania & Duloc have both recently benefited from an import of Nakil Tanks and training for their crews, out of our budget, and we expect nothing in return. Furthermore, we are committing a large amount of resources to Aperture Science to rebuild damaged facilities and restart a nation's economy.

It is easy to find the faults, President - perhaps you would be better to look at the good we are making in this world.
The Silver Sky
30-10-2007, 00:40
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Please. We fail to see where we have been pushing nations around. Perhaps you comprehension fails you? The Blubs are hardly a young nation by any means; they know the score, as do we. We were protecting the interests of NCIB, they preventing a conflict.

As it goes, we happen to be in the business of protecting younger nations - Aperture Science and Skamania & Duloc have both recently benefited from an import of Nakil Tanks and training for their crews, out of our budget, and we expect nothing in return. Furthermore, we are committing a large amount of resources to Aperture Science to rebuild damaged facilities and restart a nation's economy.

It is easy to find the faults, President - perhaps you would be better to look at the good we are making in this world.
The Armed Capitalist Republic of The Silver Sky
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Department of Foreign Relations

If they are simply preventing a conflict, then why did you make obvious threats against them? Also, the The Blub Colony is a a very young nation compared to your own in population, and even younger when compared in the amount of time it has even been a self-sustaining nation, which is less then 10 years in it's current form [OOC: he went inactive for a while and the IC excuse was that his nation collasped and then he moved to haven, only been there for a few months, so a few years ICly]

And I never said that your nation has not spread good throughout the world. I know of the good you have spread, which was why I was so stern with your threats against the Blubs, a nation can easily steer onto the wrong path with a single message by the leader, just look at British Londinium, or what is left of it.

Kara H. Maddox
Kara H. Maddox
President of The Armed Capitalist Republic
Ariddia
30-10-2007, 01:19
Secretariat for External Affairs
Ariddian Isles
Official statement

The Ariddian Isles firmly condemns persecution on the basis of religious belief and expression, or lack thereof. We urge the authorities in DoubleWideville to rethink a policy which is irrational, inhumane and counter-productive. The true followers of any religion know that the path to follow is persuasion through reason, compassion and setting a positive example - not discrimination and repression.

Further, I would be curious to know how the government of DoubleWideville intends to implement these discriminatory policies. By mandating attendance in religious ceremonies? That may enforce a sham pretence of religious belief, but nothing more. The human spirit cannot be coerced; atheists will remain atheists in personal belief, even if they must remain outwardly silent.

Sébastien Chaussée,
Secretary for External Affairs
Gortania
30-10-2007, 03:09
FROM THE EMPIRE OF GORTANIA

Making good on our earlier promise to support the courage of the people of DoubleWideville. (OOC: See earlier edict for this) We will do all of the following;
1.Announce a state of war between the Empire and those who attack DoubleWideville in any way.
2.Provide war and peacetime materials to DoubleWideville.
3. Attack any blockades or move to cancel out sanctions against DoubleWideville.
4. Considering our only other international commitments total only 10,000 we can provide 500,000 Holy soldiers to support DoubleWideville to be supported by armor and air forces (and sea if DoubleWideville possesses ports). The army shall be transported by similar means and the first 50,000 shall reach DoubleWideville over the next week and the rest over the month.
5.We will provide support to other nations who support DoubleWideville and who are attacked by the nations assaulting it now.

We go to such extreme matters to ensure the survival of this nation because we have seen few with the courage to purify their nations of the heathens that oppose our Lord. We BEG DoubleWideville to accept this Support Package
and fight with us to defeat the enemies of our great nations.

THE EMPIRE OF GORTANIA
The Blub Colony
30-10-2007, 03:13
FROM THE EMPIRE OF GORTANIA

Making good on our earlier promise to support the courage of the people of DoubleWideville. (OOC: See earlier edict for this) We will do all of the following;
1.Announce a state of war between the Empire and those who attack DoubleWideville in any way.
2.Provide war and peacetime materials to DoubleWideville.
3. Attack any blockades or move to cancel out sanctions against DoubleWideville.
4. Considering our only other international commitments total only 10,000 we can provide 500,000 Holy soldiers to support DoubleWideville to be supported by armor and air forces (and sea if DoubleWideville possesses ports). The army shall be transported by similar means and the first 50,000 shall reach DoubleWideville over the next week and the rest over the month.
5.We will provide support to other nations who support DoubleWideville and who are attacked by the nations assaulting it now.

We go to such extreme matters to ensure the survival of this nation because we have seen few with the courage to purify their nations of the heathens that oppose our Lord. We BEG DoubleWideville to accept this Support Package
and fight with us to defeat the enemies of our great nations.

THE EMPIRE OF GORTANIA

To: Gortania
From: The Mighty Blub Colony

Body:
Shhhhhh.

It's over now. Put your little ding dong away.

End.
Gortania
30-10-2007, 03:19
From the Empire Of Gortania

To Blub: We would like to note the situation seems to have not diffused and we have had no reaction from the host nation yet. The Empire also cites the fact it is larger than the state of Blub for the "little gong" comment.

From the Empire Of Gortania
The Blub Colony
30-10-2007, 03:23
ooc: There's been no reply because the guy is a fricking TROLL. That's why I put a stop to this crap to begin with. >.>

IC:

To: Gortania
From: The Somewhat-Annoyed Blub Colony

Body:

Reply or not from them, the tensions are over. The only problem now is that TSS felt obliged to step in and defend us due to our nations' close friendship for many years.

However, there is no threat.

As to the ding dong comment, trust us. You do not want to measure anatomy parts with us. We've casually destroyed nations five times your size and broken up alliances of nations with 50 billion population without firing a shot.

So, just go away.

End.
Gortania
30-10-2007, 03:31
ooc: wasn't aware of his "trolling" this has been amusing at the least so was hoping he showed up again.

IC:

From the Empire of Gortania

To Blub: Would you like to cite some of these "Conflicts and victories" as references for the Empire that has gone ignorant of them? (OOC: The Empire does exert power in the real section of the game and is a Corporate Police State with a people brainwashed similar to the book 1984 if you have ever read it)
We arn't sp easy to break as the "50 Billion" you speak of.

The Empire Of Gortania
Veianto
30-10-2007, 03:36
To the Blub colony-

go to heck, if you belive in one. If not, go sleep in a ditch forever.


To DoubleWideville

Veianto gives you full support. We shall send X (you send us how many) air groups to patrol your borders. Anyone tyring to evac reffugees found on DoubleWideville soil will be shot down, wasted ect, if wished by DoubleWideville.
The Blub Colony
30-10-2007, 03:38
To: Them
From: The Annoyed Blubs

Body:

*sigh*

We went to war against Old Hataria, a nation more than x35 our size at the time with a military close to x50 the size of ours. Not only did we fight them to a standstill at Leyte, but we threatened their shores with an invasion that forced the complete withdraw of Hataria from the Indies. Furthermore, our kill ratio was well over 11:1 in terms of ships and 6:1 in aircraft.

Later, we went to war with Old Hataria again. Before we had ever fired a shot, the entire Dominion Commonwealth (An alliance of about 60 billion) and the UFAN stepped in on their side to defend them against 'The Blub Threat'.

Several of the DC core members were so unwilling to fight us that the DC fell apart. Ceased to exist. A nation called Transvestite or something like that lead the charge to try to destroy us for that, but they and Hataria combined failed to defeat us.

We have a Blub among us who has single-handedly captured Questers Cyleon.

Now, we highly suggest that you take your ego, smash it up into a ball and cram it somewhere before it drags you to a place you do not want to be. You're starting to annoy us, and if you're trying to pick a fight with the MIGHTY BLUBS then you'd best get it in your head now that numbers don't mean a thing.

End.
Gortania
30-10-2007, 03:44
From the Empire Of Gortania

To:Blub

The Empire does believe in a Heck for reference. regardless we grow equally tired of "Overinflated egos" And do not fear other nations. If DoubleWideville chooses to respond to the situation and Blub and other nations attempt interference to its policies and sovereignty we will move to stop them with all our power, if the nation does not respond or if there is no action we will not move either.

Good day

The Empire Of Gortania
Euroslavia
30-10-2007, 03:50
OOC: Based on the fact that his only other post is a thread which declares a new 'crusade', I'd say he's only doing this to get a reaction. He's not following up with any of the threads he's made, at all. I'd just ignore him, til he actually makes an effort to do something.
Dyelli Beybi
30-10-2007, 08:08
OOC: Second comment from Euroslavia... although it is taking all my effort to not throw DB's weight around just for fun :P
DoubleWideville
01-11-2007, 23:40
To: All Nations Concerned
Frpm: The Holy Empire of DoubleWideville
New Jerusalem, Zion Province

Greetings, nations of the world. It is my honor to transmit the message of our Great Emperor, King David the II to all of you regarding Operation Cleansing.
Operation Cleansing is an internal attempt to deport those who are treasonous and possiblt terroristic to our Great Christian Nation. As such, we thank you for relieving these dangerous heretics from Our Holy Nation.
These Atheists have actively tried to overthrow the reing of our Holy Emperor and challenge his Divine Right to the monarchy. These acts have consisted of passing out Atheistic propaganda and insisting in teaching heretical teachings of Evolution in our schools.
The Holy Empire was created as a homeland for those willing to obey the Scriptures, as enshrined in law. From it's very inception, it was meant to be a homeland for Christians, as Israel is for Jews.
It is a theocratic nation, ran for and governed by Christians. We call on the nations of the world to show restraint and to respect the soveriengty of DoubleWideville . This is an internal matter, and Operation Cleansing is to break up clandestine Atheist sleeper cells dedicated to the fall of the Monarchy.
We are not harming any Atheist, nor would we kill them. We simply ask they no longer infect our Holy Empire with their heresy and misbelief. We are a united nation that follows the DoubleWideville Fundementalist Church, and are governed by the Emperor, King David the II and the Assembly of Ministers.
Thank you for removing these violent riffraff. We hope they behave better for you then they have for us.
The Fanboyists
01-11-2007, 23:47
We here in the Fanboyist states hereby declare our support for our brothers in DoubleWideville. Any of you suckers who wants to mess with them will die, and will have to face the Fanboyist states full military power. Trust me, we have a lot of it.
Shazbotdom
02-11-2007, 00:10
We here in the Fanboyist states hereby declare our support for our brothers in DoubleWideville. Any of you suckers who wants to mess with them will die, and will have to face the Fanboyist states full military power. Trust me, we have a lot of it.

To Whom It May Concern in The Fanboyists
I send this as an official from the Shazbotdom Marine Corps. While this doesn't need the attention of the Supreme Emperor or any of his Ministers, we feel that your threat is rather useless. If you so do attempt to assault us, your nation will be but glass after we get through with you.

General Daniel E. Peterson
The Fanboyists
02-11-2007, 01:17
To Whom It May Concern in The Fanboyists
I send this as an official from the Shazbotdom Marine Corps. While this doesn't need the attention of the Supreme Emperor or any of his Ministers, we feel that your threat is rather useless. If you so do attempt to assault us, your nation will be but glass after we get through with you.

General Daniel E. Peterson

General Steve "the Executioner," Generalissmo of the Fanboyist States would like to say in response to your counter-threat, as diplomatically and at the same time as rudely as possible, to bite him.
Uncle Noel
02-11-2007, 01:46
The Serene Democratic People's Fiefdom of Otiacicoh, while condemning the actions of The Holy Empire of DoubleWideville, is also appauled that so many nations are devoting time and energy to this issue.

That said, anyone who has to adopt the nickname "the Executioner" to gain respect must be seriously lacking in some departments. I am sure you can all guess which.

Signed,
Trevor "The Destroyinator" Macmillan
Cihuacoatl (Prime Minister) of Otiacicoh

P.S. No one likes Blubs
The Silver Sky
02-11-2007, 02:06
OOC: Nonsense, everyone loves blubs.
The New Aryan State
02-11-2007, 02:09
OOC: Everyone loves Blubs.
Kurona
02-11-2007, 15:55
Kurona belives in free religious practice. However we also belive in not shedding human blood if possible. Unless DoubleWideville is sending all atheists to their death, we will not intervene.
Shazbotdom
02-11-2007, 20:57
General Steve "the Executioner," Generalissmo of the Fanboyist States would like to say in response to your counter-threat, as diplomatically and at the same time as rudely as possible, to bite him.

To General Steve
I suggest that you cease with the constant badgering of the international community. Your small nation couldn't defend itself from a pack of ravenous dogs, let alone nations over 20 times your size. You really don't want to become a puppet state to one of the larger nations, now do you?

Also, I am inclinded to agree with the Mr. Macmillan from The Serene Democratic People's Fiefdom of Otiacicoh about your use of a nickname. You have some serious issues that you should consult with a Psyciatrist about.

4 Star General Greg J. Transith
The Blub Colony
02-11-2007, 21:13
P.S. No one likes Blubs

ooc: =(
Uncle Noel
03-11-2007, 00:54
ooc: =(

ooc: How can I stay mad with a Blub when it looks so sad.

I take it all back. Everyone loves Blubs.
Purenezz
03-11-2007, 01:10
To: DoubleWideville

From: Bredford Goverment Department of Defence

Since Bredford is purely Atheistic nation (%100 nonreligious), your actions are considered very offensive to us.

You have 48 hours to stop this... madness.

Unless, we will destroy you.

We hate you, and not a good day,

William Alberta, Bredford's minister of Defence.

OOC or watever: how did your country become 100% nonreligious? you would have to be opressing religious beliefs aswell
The Marxist State
03-11-2007, 01:44
While top leaders in the Marxist State must be Atheist, we still beleive in the people have the right to practice as they please, including abstaining from such religous practice.

We ask that the right Honorable king to reconsider his position.
Azurygos
03-11-2007, 01:52
Greetings DoubleWideville and Gortania,

From a nation of atheists, go to your hell.

Regards,
Azurygos
Achae-Ottonia
03-11-2007, 02:08
To General Steve
I suggest that you cease with the constant badgering of the international community. Your small nation couldn't defend itself from a pack of ravenous dogs, let alone nations over 20 times your size. You really don't want to become a puppet state to one of the larger nations, now do you?

Also, I am inclinded to agree with the Mr. Macmillan from The Serene Democratic People's Fiefdom of Otiacicoh about your use of a nickname. You have some serious issues that you should consult with a Psyciatrist about.

4 Star General Greg J. Transith

I whole heartedly agree with that.
The Fanboyists
03-11-2007, 02:15
To General Steve
I suggest that you cease with the constant badgering of the international community. Your small nation couldn't defend itself from a pack of ravenous dogs, let alone nations over 20 times your size. You really don't want to become a puppet state to one of the larger nations, now do you?

Also, I am inclinded to agree with the Mr. Macmillan from The Serene Democratic People's Fiefdom of Otiacicoh about your use of a nickname. You have some serious issues that you should consult with a Psyciatrist about.

4 Star General Greg J. Transith

I reiterate my earlier statement of "BITE ME" in response to your remarks regarding our military. However, on the subject of the nickname, let it be established that I never approved of that. I have had that aide disciplined. All my initial statement was meant as was as my way of affirming my support for DoubleWideville's actions. Should they require or desire any assistance in Operation Cleansing, than they need only look to the Fanboyist States for support. I do apologize for any misunderstandings that that idiot (my former aide) may have caused. However, I do not appreciate the disparging remarks about our military. We've worked hard on it, and we are a dominant military force in our region.
General Steve Grimmeberger, Generalissmo, Head of State, and Guardian of the National Interest of the Fanboyist States
The Marxist State
03-11-2007, 02:58
I reiterate my earlier statement of "BITE ME" in response to your remarks regarding our military. However, on the subject of the nickname, let it be established that I never approved of that. I have had that aide disciplined. All my initial statement was meant as was as my way of affirming my support for DoubleWideville's actions. Should they require or desire any assistance in Operation Cleansing, than they need only look to the Fanboyist States for support. I do apologize for any misunderstandings that that idiot (my former aide) may have caused. However, I do not appreciate the disparging remarks about our military. We've worked hard on it, and we are a dominant military force in our region.
General Steve Grimmeberger, Generalissmo, Head of State, and Guardian of the National Interest of the Fanboyist States

You're an impudent little state, aren't you.

We'll change our position. We INSIST doublewide reconsider, and we insist Fanboyists withdraw their support. Our secret police can be very insistant
Southeastern Greenland
03-11-2007, 03:49
Our first and foremost word to the nation of DoubleWideville (even though we are usually more polite): go to your hell and stay there!

Besides that we offer asylum and citizenship to all fleeing atheists fearing prosecution. We will provide transportation to the evacuees if necessary.
The Fanboyists
04-11-2007, 04:39
You're an impudent little state, aren't you.

We'll change our position. We INSIST doublewide reconsider, and we insist Fanboyists withdraw their support. Our secret police can be very insistant

You obviously don't understand the meaning of "BITE ME," do you? And secret police don't work terribly well outside of your own country, especially against a well developed regular AND secret police force in a foreign country. Especially when the government there has the full backing of 99% of the population and just about everyone is on their guard against commies like you. Besides, I'm perfectly free to support who I wish.
And stop threatening DoubleWideville. Exiled atheists are free to live in a nation where their beliefs ARE tolerated, and the issue can be left there.
Jinos
04-11-2007, 05:43
Public Decleration::Protectorate of Jinos

Precentor Martial Bradley publicly condemned the actions of the Emporer of Doublewideville.

In his speach he announced the Protectorate would cease any at all trade into the region, and he urged other countries to actively Embargo Doublewideville.

Unfortunately due to the involvment in the war of Tatom, Jinos is unable to mount a large evacuation of the area, but has sent a free brigade of transportation helicopters to airlift fleeing Atheists and other persecuted citizens out of the area to Jinos.
Shazbotdom
04-11-2007, 05:49
I reiterate my earlier statement of "BITE ME" in response to your remarks regarding our military. However, on the subject of the nickname, let it be established that I never approved of that. I have had that aide disciplined. All my initial statement was meant as was as my way of affirming my support for DoubleWideville's actions. Should they require or desire any assistance in Operation Cleansing, than they need only look to the Fanboyist States for support. I do apologize for any misunderstandings that that idiot (my former aide) may have caused. However, I do not appreciate the disparging remarks about our military. We've worked hard on it, and we are a dominant military force in our region.
General Steve Grimmeberger, Generalissmo, Head of State, and Guardian of the National Interest of the Fanboyist States

To General Steve
And may I reitterate my statment of stopping to badger the International Community. I am tempted to just send one Division of the Shazbotdom Marine Corps into your homeland to wipe out your entire military and enstate a puppet government. But i'll leave that for other nations to decide if they want to do that.

I'd just sit back and watch the carnage.

4 Star General Greg J. Transith
The Fanboyists
04-11-2007, 13:07
To General Steve
And may I reitterate my statment of stopping to badger the International Community. I am tempted to just send one Division of the Shazbotdom Marine Corps into your homeland to wipe out your entire military and enstate a puppet government. But i'll leave that for other nations to decide if they want to do that.

I'd just sit back and watch the carnage.

4 Star General Greg J. Transith

Shazbotdom has no business in what are now FFS - Communist Affairs. Unless you are communist yourselves. Stay out of our dealings with the Marxist State. Besides, I'm free to offer support to whomever I wish. Again, that is not your business.
OOC: Besides, short of godmoding, 1 division won't be enough to wipe out my enitire military. Consider that 5,000 men against, say, 15,000,000.
The Marxist State
04-11-2007, 15:37
You obviously don't understand the meaning of "BITE ME," do you? And secret police don't work terribly well outside of your own country, especially against a well developed regular AND secret police force in a foreign country. Especially when the government there has the full backing of 99% of the population and just about everyone is on their guard against commies like you. Besides, I'm perfectly free to support who I wish.
And stop threatening DoubleWideville. Exiled atheists are free to live in a nation where their beliefs ARE tolerated, and the issue can be left there.

Our population exceeds yours 100 times. We kindly ask you shut up before you get yourself into something you can't get out of.
Crookfur
04-11-2007, 16:32
Shazbotdom has no business in what are now FFS - Communist Affairs. Unless you are communist yourselves. Stay out of our dealings with the Marxist State. Besides, I'm free to offer support to whomever I wish. Again, that is not your business.
OOC: Besides, short of godmoding, 1 division won't be enough to wipe out my enitire military. Consider that 5,000 men against, say, 15,000,000.

OOC: Well since you have now diea how big his divsions are it might not be all that exagerated a promise. After all if your military numbers 15million then we are bet best talking russian conscript levels of capability although probably things would be leaning towards the pre gw2 iraqi regular army levels of usefulness.
Shazbotdom
04-11-2007, 17:19
Shazbotdom has no business in what are now FFS - Communist Affairs. Unless you are communist yourselves. Stay out of our dealings with the Marxist State. Besides, I'm free to offer support to whomever I wish. Again, that is not your business.


To General Steve
You know. You don't know much about the Shazbotdom Empire. We are leftsit/socialist, which falls under the Communist flag. So I suggest that you check your information first before you say somthing else stupid. You have 48 hours to withdraw support for this terrorist nation before we blockade your nation.

4 Star General Greg J. Transith


OOC: Besides, short of godmoding, 1 division won't be enough to wipe out my enitire military. Consider that 5,000 men against, say, 15,000,000.

OOC:
You really think that my divisions are 5 thousand? Think of it this way. My military is set up as follows: Company--->Division--->Fire Team. Each Company as 50 Divisions in it. I'm not going to break it down to fire Team because that would be irrelivent for this compairson.

Each Company has 3,750,000 Marines. Divide that by 50 and you get 75,000. maybe I should just send in bout 3 Companies in (roughly 11,250,000 Marines) in and wipe you out? With budget comparisons i'd have better trained troops that would drive through your lines with ease. Especially if your men were spread out throughout your nation while mine were slamming in on one shoreline.
The Blub Colony
04-11-2007, 21:07
To General Steve
You know. You don't know much about the Shazbotdom Empire. We are leftsit/socialist, which falls under the Communist flag. So I suggest that you check your information first before you say somthing else stupid. You have 48 hours to withdraw support for this terrorist nation before we blockade your nation.

4 Star General Greg J. Transith




OOC:
You really think that my divisions are 5 thousand? Think of it this way. My military is set up as follows: Division--->Company--->Fire Team. Each Division as 50 Companies in it. I'm not going to break it down to fire Team because that would be irrelivent for this compairson.

Each Division has 3,750,000 Marines. Divide that by 50 and you get 75,000. maybe I should just send in bout 3 Companies in (roughly 11,250,000 Marines) in and wipe you out? With budget comparisons i'd have better trained troops that would drive through your lines with ease. Especially if your men were spread out throughout your nation while mine were slamming in on one shoreline.

ooc: >.> If a company is 75,000 how does 3 companies equal 11 million? >.> Wouldn't that be more like 3 divisions?
Shazbotdom
04-11-2007, 22:11
ooc: >.> If a company is 75,000 how does 3 companies equal 11 million? >.> Wouldn't that be more like 3 divisions?

OOC:
Err. I mistyped something. It's supposed to be Comapny ---> Division ---> Fire Team. I'll fix that post if you delete your post. I had a long night, not much sleep. Shit happens. haha.
The Fanboyists
05-11-2007, 04:26
OOC: You don't need to apologize for defending me, Achae-Ottonia. I fail to see whatever post you did it in though.

IC:
A few things to the Empire of Shazbotdom from General Grimmeberger, Head of State of the Federation of the Fanboyist States, to try to help clarify the situation:
A: We respect the fact that your military is considerably more powerful than ours. However, I would be compromising national principles if I were to cave into the demands of a communist nation, as I would be caving in to people who are considered criminals(or at the very least don't garner as much respect as anyone else) in the FFS. However, I thank you for the warnings.
B: We are free to support who we wish.
C: That comparison to Russian conscripts was offensive and completely unnessecary. We aren't that bad. Think effectiveness (in terms of resolve, discipline, and the like) of the army of the Holy Roman Empire under Charles V.
D: The division issue was borne out of a total misunderstanding of the Shazbotdom military organization.
E: Something that should be pointed out to all: I have never meant to support killings of atheists within Doublewideville's borders. The offers to them of military support were intended to be used against the terrorist cell that is destabilizing their government, not against civilians of any race, ideology, creed, or lack thereof.
Respectfully, and hoping that this helps to sort out some misunderstandings,
General Steven Grimmeberger, Generalissmo of the Federation of the Fanboyist States, Chief of the Military and of Just About Everything Else.
DoubleWideville
05-11-2007, 05:32
FROM THE EMPIRE OF GORTANIA

Making good on our earlier promise to support the courage of the people of DoubleWideville. (OOC: See earlier edict for this) We will do all of the following;
1.Announce a state of war between the Empire and those who attack DoubleWideville in any way.
2.Provide war and peacetime materials to DoubleWideville.
3. Attack any blockades or move to cancel out sanctions against DoubleWideville.
4. Considering our only other international commitments total only 10,000 we can provide 500,000 Holy soldiers to support DoubleWideville to be supported by armor and air forces (and sea if DoubleWideville possesses ports). The army shall be transported by similar means and the first 50,000 shall reach DoubleWideville over the next week and the rest over the month.
5.We will provide support to other nations who support DoubleWideville and who are attacked by the nations assaulting it now.

We go to such extreme matters to ensure the survival of this nation because we have seen few with the courage to purify their nations of the heathens that oppose our Lord. We BEG DoubleWideville to accept this Support Package
and fight with us to defeat the enemies of our great nations.

THE EMPIRE OF GORTANIA


The kind offer of Gortania was accepted by a unanimous vote of the Assembly of Layity, the Assembly of Ministers and ratified by King David the II.
We thank our brothers in the Lord for this bold and courageous move. For too long the forces of heresy and evil have used force to silensce the Soldiers of the Lord.
We would remind the outside nations we do this based on their provacations. DoubleWideville has, and always will be, a nation of devoute followers of Jesus Christ.
It is our policy to stand up for the Faith, to defend persecuted Christians worldwide and to protect our great Judeo-Christian heritage.
As such we hertily embrace our sisters and brothers in the Lord from Gortania. We also accept help from Fanboyist and any other nation whicyh is outraged by the meddlesome activities of these forieng nations.
DoubleWideville WILL NOT EVER kill Atheists. There would be little point in it. Since they are all going to burn in Hell forever for their disbelief, we see no reason to hasten their inevietable doom in the searing flames of Hell. Our Great God will eventually deal with them as they deserve, and to their woe will learn the error of their ways.
Praise Jesus and The Father! May God protect our Christian Nation and pour blessings down on all who supports the Holy Warriors of God! I will keep you in our prayers, Gortania! Stay strong and remember what happened when the Philistine took on David! Praise God!
Shazbotdom
05-11-2007, 05:37
A few things to the Empire of Shazbotdom from General Grimmeberger, Head of State of the Federation of the Fanboyist States, to try to help clarify the situation:
A: We respect the fact that your military is considerably more powerful than ours. However, I would be compromising national principles if I were to cave into the demands of a communist nation, as I would be caving in to people who are considered criminals(or at the very least don't garner as much respect as anyone else) in the FFS. However, I thank you for the warnings.
B: We are free to support who we wish.
C: That comparison to Russian conscripts was offensive and completely unnessecary. We aren't that bad. Think effectiveness (in terms of resolve, discipline, and the like) of the army of the Holy Roman Empire under Charles V.
D: The division issue was borne out of a total misunderstanding of the Shazbotdom military organization.
E: Something that should be pointed out to all: I have never meant to support killings of atheists within Doublewideville's borders. The offers to them of military support were intended to be used against the terrorist cell that is destabilizing their government, not against civilians of any race, ideology, creed, or lack thereof.
Respectfully, and hoping that this helps to sort out some misunderstandings,
General Steven Grimmeberger, Generalissmo of the Federation of the Fanboyist States, Chief of the Military and of Just About Everything Else.

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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR LARRY WILLIAMS
To General Steve
I have just been handed all the information reguarding this matter, and UN reports on what has just happene din your nation and I am disgusted.

So you call The Shazbotodm Empire criminals because we consider ourself Left-Wing and you were terrorized by people who don't like your rather blatantly facist regime?

I find that rather interesting. Last I knew, terrorism is used to scare the populace into submission for the leadership of that nation to do as they please. Which if I am correct, you are currently using terror tactics to force the popuation of your nation into dropping their personal beliefs in an equal society by threatening them with jail time.

This cannot be tollerated in the personal oppinion of the people of the Shazbotdom Empire. And therefore I am abliged by the people of my nation to authorize the acceptance of Communist Nationals from your nation into the Shazbotdom Empire under a temporary Visa. This Visa will be temporary until they prove to the people of the Shazbotdom Empire that they will be a productive member of our Society.

Therefore anyone fleeting the tyranny of your nation is welcome in the Shazbotdom Empire and any of her Colonies under the Temporary Visa Act (VA-0446432-995) of 2016. We will be sending a flight group of 300 Thunderbolt assault craft along with 100 Boeing 777's to transport any Communists out of your nation. They will land at a location you specify and will take out as many Communists as can fit on them.



OOC:
I am going to post a version of this in your thread.
The Fanboyists
05-11-2007, 05:54
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So you call The Shazbotodm Empire criminals because we consider ourself Left-Wing and you were terrorized by people who don't like your rather blatantly facist regime?

I find that rather interesting. Last I knew, terrorism is used to scare the populace into submission for the leadership of that nation to do as they please. Which if I am correct, you are currently using terror tactics to force the popuation of your nation into dropping their personal beliefs in an equal society by threatening them with jail time.

This cannot be tollerated in the personal oppinion of the people of the Shazbotdom Empire. And therefore I am abliged by the people of my nation to authorize the acceptance of Communist Nationals from your nation into the Shazbotdom Empire under a temporary Visa. This Visa will be temporary until they prove to the people of the Shazbotdom Empire that they will be a productive member of our Society.

Therefore anyone fleeting the tyranny of your nation is welcome in the Shazbotdom Empire and any of her Colonies under the Temporary Visa Act (VA-0446432-995) of 2016. We will be sending a flight group of 300 Thunderbolt assault craft along with 100 Boeing 777's to transport any Communists out of your nation. They will land at a location you specify and will take out as many Communists as can fit on them.



OOC:
I am going to post a version of this in your thread.

I do not need to use terrorism to keep other's beliefs down in the FFS. People in this nation are by nature conservative(fact of life, I don't entirely understand why either) and the number of people who support a communist system in the FFS are a tiny minority. The terrorists I was referring to are a cell similar to Al Qaeda (so far as tactics go) that is using violence to force the legitimate government in the FFS out of power. They have used violent attacks against civilian targets, and as such the FFS is obligated to defend its citizens. As for extracting the small communist minority that wishes to leave, you will indeed be allowed to aid them in their exit from our country, if they so desire. I have never intended to prevent them from doing so. Erreston, with one of the largest airstrips in our nation, should be able to accomedate the large group you will be sending. I thank you for a civil resolution to this situation.

Addressing the criminality issue: That is simply the fact under the law of Order 93. However, the revoking of political privlages for the Communist party is really a nominal punishment, as no political party really has much influence in the FSS. That is also not to say that I myself do not respect you or your people, it is simply the prevailing opinion in the FSS. Again, it is an unfortunate fact.

As for military aid to DoubleWideville, I have taken the opportunity to allow the formation of a volunteer army to fight for your cause. The Blue Army, under the command of Special Commander Carlos De Vasto, number about 520,000 men in strength, and they are on their way. In addition, to help defend the commerce of DoubleWideville, I am sending a detachment of the FFS High Seas Fleet, including the Superdreadnaught FSS Francisco Franco to aid in the repulsion of any naval threats to your nation.

Your ally,
General Steven Grimmeberger, Head of State