Hub Limited Exports: Private deals on classified ALC equipment
Vault 10
29-10-2007, 19:37
http://www.freewebs.com/vault_10/ALC1.PNG
[OOC]
If you came here, most likely you already know what you need, and know what to do, but in case.
This thread is where you can purchase some equipment, some which is public sale, and some that is not approved for public sale. That includes products from Aerospace Logistics Corporation, Symmetriad, and occasionally other Vault 10 companies.
Most of the equipment becomes limited-sale because it poses threat of game-spoiling and balance-breaking abuse in the wrong hands. Or because I myself wouldn't like to be attacked with something like this.
Some deals are, therefore, not for everybody. The rule of thumb is, if you know of that product, or had prior positive contacts with Vault 10 most likely you are approved to buy it. UFAN and Confederacy members are approved for all equipment.
Also, exceptions are made for small nations: as a rule, they can buy anything.
As it was in the first place set up for people who know what they need, there will never be a full list of equipment offered. If you know of one of my designs not mentioned here, you probably can buy it. What is on the display is just what's interesting to just read about.
Some rules of the thread.
1. As some of the equipment is secret, so are the deals, but the level of secrecy is up to you to decide. You might receive it as sealed black containers sent to military bases, or declare it officially as generic items, or have it delivered in the dead of night, or whatever you prefer. Privacy is your privilege, not obligation.
2. It's not Walmart, so prices are negotiable. But neither is it a grocery market; prices aren't arbitrary, so you'll know if you have reasons for the price to drop. When you see no mention of cost in the design, that means it's customizable and depends on the specific order, so inquire with your needs.
While the deals are private, they aren't "sell and run". All (with exceptions explicitly stated) equipment gets warranty, for instance ALC equipment is 95% guaranteed to match or exceed official specs. OOC, this means that if someone conflicts you over the design, I take full responsibility. I'll join the thread and either prove the feasibility or do something to fix it.
3. Designs themselves are posted and will be posted elsewhere, and there belongs their in-depth technical discussion. Discuss configuration, numbers, variants, whatever that is related to your specific purchase here, however.
4. We have individual approach to each client and full design customization. If you want something in the design changed, and the order is large enough, most times it can be changed. If something is not stated in the design, e.g. a warship has no weapons specified, that means it can have very many configurations - so just tell what you need.
5. The brief equipment list below will never be complete - it's not a Walmart. If you've seen the design itself or me talking about it elsewhere, then you can get it here; anything as long as you're eligible.
6. While this is a semi-IC thread, you can spare the legalese; If our representatives didn't know each other well enough to talk in a sauna over a beer, how could they discuss sale of not always public equipment?
[IC]
Hub Business Encyclopedia
18. Hub Limited Exports Company
Hub Limited Exports Company was created 22 years ago in the trade city of Hub by former Crimson Caravan and Fargo Trading employees. Starting as typical merchants, buying high-value goods at the points of supply and getting them through a dangerous route to the points of demand, about 10 years ago the company has secured its place as the most trusted trader in the nation. However, unable to compete with direct Aerospace Logistics sales, HLE had to migrate into a far more convenient niche they found: that of a discreet middleman. Today, the company often leaves delivery to specialized logistics services, especially when handling deals between entities not desiring to be associated with each other.
The company claims neutrality towards all vendors and customers, and indeed sells the competitors' products as eagerly as those of ALC. Since no information about any deals has leaked out of the company in the last ten years, it's suspected to be involved in shady deals. Limited Exports, however, operates strictly within the legal bounds, as the commerce law in Hub is built around absolute business freedom.
HLE is a full liability company, and most of its just 350 employees are bound by family ties or long-standing friendship.
It's known, however, that Hub Limited Exports itself holds very little power, and most sales it makes have to be agreed upon by the manufacturer as well; HLE doesn't own warehouses. The company's proxy role and discretion making deals untraceable, though, allow the manufacturers to disregard PR and political reasons, thus opening much wider customer selection.
Most of the deals Limited Exports makes are documented as very different transactions, with actual negotiation and contract signing taking place during private meetings at various resorts around the world.
Vault 10
29-10-2007, 19:37
Some of the equipment. It's not a full list, just something of what is fully complete, and what is special with it.
R1 Advanced Combat Rifle (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=139)
Note the weapon's weight and recoil are these of an assault rifle, which it replaces. It's battle rifle in capabilities.
Procurement: You can order specific numbers of the variants needed, or go for Full Supply model, where for a flat cost of $25B per million units the army is supplied whatever variants each specific unit requires. You still need to specify primary caliber, though.
Mudskipper class combat hydroplane (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=988)
Yes, it has no default weapons. Any missiles can be installed, or cannons up to 100mm. Tell what you need and I'll make the configuration. Everything is reconfigurable later - module change is "plug and play", taking less two-three hours with a crane and four men.
$25 million for unarmed, up to $40 armed.
GNAVT "Dachnik" double-barreled shotgun (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1086) - the name is intentionally misleading, since it's in fact not a firearm, but a highly capable satellite-based high-altitude air and space defense system using shotgun effect. It's designed against spacecraft, hypersonic aircraft and ballistic missiles, but is especially capable against ground-based "spaceplanes", with kill chance about 0.99, thermoaerodynamic effect upon reentry finishing the job. Can attack any high-altitude target.
Starting at $10 million.
F-5M "Tigro El Cheapo" fighter (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13693530#post13693530)
Low-cost fighter - starting at $4 million a unit, depends on variants.
Laertes IV Advanced Ejector Seat (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=556077)
Starting at $300,000.
Other:
Gecko (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3300&view=findpost&p=1079431) (posted for reference)
Kampfers
31-10-2007, 04:39
OOC: Good to see you out on the market
SIC:
Heavily Encrypted Transmission:
Given the importance of protecting our soldiers on an ever-changing field of battle, we wish to purchase enough Light Infantry Suits manufactured by Aerospace Logistics to equip our whole army with the exception of the Special Forces, who will use a different system. We will need to purchase a large number of these suits, as there will need to be enough to cover the whole army as well as have plenty of reserves. These will be taken in numerous shipments, delivered discreetly in the dead of night to the cities of North Point, Gantrickburgh, and Kampfers Stadt at the attached dock slips. The containers should be labeled as "Military Equipment" but should give no clue as to what is inside. Customs will have been notified and your ships should pass through unimpeded. Specifically, we require the Type III MMC with the included helmet for each soldier, however we request that one of every seventeen is upgraded to the Full Communications Helmet. We have wired the appropriate sums to the proper accounts, and thank you for your trustworthy products.
- Kampferian Department of Military Purchases (KDMP)
OOC: No price as already cleared by V10.
Vault 10
31-10-2007, 05:14
[Encryption Level V]
We're setting up the deal as of now. The delivery should be done within the next week, and we're ready to introduce special changes for particular units, if needed.
Thanks for your purchase.
Best regards, A.S.
Greal would like to buy 6 million R-1 Battle rifles for 150 billion. (I think 8mm caliber will do good.)
Vault 10
31-10-2007, 05:53
[OOC]
Are you sure you want 5.56 caliber? That can be done, but is a bit light, and 5.56 will make it incompatible with many interesting alternate bullets.
I'd suggest either 6.3mm or 8mm, the former is for more general work, the latter if you want the rifle to support powerful bullets up to anti-material. There's a whole set of them for these calibers. Since the recoil energy is reduced 3-4 times, 6.3mm fires very comfortably, while 8mm hits about as much as 5.56 in M16. Or it can be made for 6.something.
If compatibility with 5.56 is critical, though, it can be made for this caliber, using downscaled caseless bullets, but compatible with NATO rounds. Just asking to be sure.
I've sent a PM on the Draftroom.
OOC: 8mm is fine then. I will edit my post.
Vault 10
01-11-2007, 03:50
Hub Limited Exports
To: Greal
We've set up the contact with Aerospace Logistics. Starting from this week, we'll work with individual divisions to determine required R1 modifications and variants, forming the orders to be delivered by ALC. The whole resupply should be done within a month.
ALC instructors are already arriving to demonstrate usage techniques and servicing procedures, and train your instructors to organize the courses. We stand ready to provide lifetime support for the system.
Thanks for your purchase.
Best regards, A.S.
Vault 10
05-11-2007, 01:15
New product:
MLSS-21 light multipurpose missile series - full description (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1223)
Feature overview (picture) (http://www.zendurl.com/warfare/mlss.PNG)
Ultra-low interception probability missile. Combines stealth to avoid early interception and sturdy construction to withstand CIWS fire, in naval use, or hard-kill APS in anti-tank use. Launched from ground, sea, subsurface (with special booster) or air, against any surface targets.
Available in 160mm, 200mm, 250mm, 315mm diameter versions. Due to cost-saving measures, it's available at $320,000 for the largest version.
Read the full description on NS Draftroom for picture and details.
The PeoplesFreedom
05-11-2007, 05:49
State Department Communication
The Holy Reich would be very interested in acquiring the MLSS-21 missile series of products. These, indeed, are world-class missiles that are well suited for intense combat operations where there are many obstacles and counter-measures. As such, we wish to purchase domestic production rights to all sizes and variants, for the price that you choose. We will not transfer this tech to any other nation or person, and we will allow you to inspect our factories at any time. Thank you.
Vault 10
05-11-2007, 10:11
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: State Department
Thank you for your interest. In general our company has a tradition not to sell air, and we have significant current reserve of production, however we have a better offer. If you order over a million missiles in total, we'll construct the additional production lines in your country, which will be transferred to you, together with all required technological data and production rights, once the contract is completed.
I hope it will be the most preferable variant for us both.
Respectfully, Steven Meyers,
Aerospace Logistics Relations Department.
P.S. This will include all ALC and Arroyo-Klamath Consortium equipment, but, of course, not optional Symmetriad electronics, which we order ourselves.
Vault 10
05-11-2007, 15:58
Update on the missile.
Now there are more versions of MLSS-21, namely 160, 200, 250, 315, 400mm. All are available in normal or short variant. Additionally, there's dedicated tank-to-tank variant, guaranteeing destruction of normal and heavy tanks. APS-proof (they do hit, they don't kill the missile), with counter-ERA charge.
At 56kg, it's heavier than all present ATGM, but dense rugged structure makes the missile and its cells almost as compact as for other ATGM, while having kill chance over 0.9 as opposed to typical 0.3-0.4, due to internal guidance and APS immunity.
Can be easily retrofitted to tanks like Merkava with the rear compartment, as VLS cells, or vehicles carrying other ATGM.
The PeoplesFreedom
06-11-2007, 02:53
OCC: As I am too lazy to post a reply, just assume I agree to your terms V-10.
Kahanistan
06-11-2007, 16:31
Official Statement of the Free Republic of Kahanistan
The Government of Kahanistan is especially interested in domestic production rights for the Dachnik double-barreled shotgun. We are open to negotiations on the price, though having just ordered air defence systems from Lyras, and with our foreign aid running low while our economy heals from the war, we have little left for this budgetary period.
Given that we have already announced to the world we are looking for a strategic defence contractor, maintaining secrecy for this transaction would be quite pointless from our perspective.
Signed,
Khalid bin Abdullah al-Omari,
President of Kahanistan
Vault 10
06-11-2007, 17:27
Hub Limited Exports
To: Khalid bin Abdullah al-Omari, President of Kahanistan
We congratulate you on this choice - the Dachnik system will stay near-impenetrable for many years to come. Considering both your budget situation, and our general policies, we would suggest an alternative to plain sale of production plans and rights.
A large order, which we would expect to be within 30,000-100,000 Jager systems for near-impenetrable network for complete national coverage (although all numbers are negotiable, depending on your needs), will be partially manufactured in your nation. As a part of the deal, these factories, manned by mixed personnel, will stay your property after order completion, as will the right to produce the systems for domestic use without restrictions.
Orders can be distributed among multiple years, of course, and everything is negotiable; we can follow a different scheme if you so prefer.
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
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[OOC: I just don't find it realistic to charge a few hundred billion for basically papers, but neither I can sell these for a few billion. So it will be the practice, you make a major order, usually for the number you need now, and with it go the rights to build more yourself if needed and infrastructure to do it.
As for own capacity, Vault 10 is an ultra-industrial, technocratic nation; the main product, above all, is industrial production equipment.]
Encrypted USSW Defense Department Communication
Considering standing requirements regarding new combat uniform for our armed forces, it's been decided that Aerospace Logistics' products best meet our particular needs and budget after our consultations with the staff involved through the channels in question. For general service in all branches, military and paramilitary, we wish to purchase fully one-hundred million Type III Versatile Suits in their MMC forms; one quarter of these to feature the Full Communications' helmet and modifications. As well, for all special-operations units both current and projected, also desired is the purchase of five million Type IV Advanced Light Infantry Suits of which all are to feature the Full Communications fit.
Regarding delivery, we request the appropriate discretion to be taken in these regards. Shipments should be directed as follows: one-quarter of all shipments to be sent to the Vetakan cities of New Theeb, New Helghan, and Bagnall Island; and the remainder to be sent to Wagdog proper by air and sea at Aigletia Harbor, Pinkybrain Atoll and the Tailville DR Port Authority for further distribution by domestic authorities. These are to be marked as “Military Supplies” without further specification, and delivered under standard ALC protocol for such. We thank your company for its kindness in these consultations, especially in terms of the relaxed approach they took and their openness in general; and we look forward to further mutually-profitable business in future.
Sincerely,
James Dolands
Deputy Secretary of Defense for Procurement
OOC: No price stated because of private discussions w/ V10, and also since NSWiki is down at the moment.
Vault 10
10-11-2007, 02:08
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: USSW Defense Department
Your order is taken, and the delivery of existing supply is being conducted by air already. We're currently enhancing the production to provide the required amount, and are ready to work with specific units to determine best fitting modifications. All production and delivery will be done with disclosure on need to know basis only.
Looking towards further partnership,
Steven Meyers,
Aerospace Logistics Sales Department.
The PeoplesFreedom
24-11-2007, 01:48
Army and Marines Joint Purchase Order
We would like to purchase five hundred thousands R1 Marksmen Rifle Variants, this comes to a total of 22 billion NS dollars. Preferably, we would like the acquisition of these as quickly as possible. Also we would like to pay the 22 billion of a course of three years. Thank you.
Vault 10
24-11-2007, 17:40
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: Army and Marines Joint Purchase Order
We currently have two million R1M rifles in the Support Corps reserve, so the shipment can be conducted in short time. You can expect heavy airlift transports to arrive within hours.
Considering our relations, delayed payment is of course not a problem. Thanks for the purchase.
Respectfully,
Steven Meyers,
Aerospace Logistics Sales Department.
Kampfers
28-11-2007, 08:00
[TO] The esteemed Aerospace Logistics
[FROM] Kampfers
Much time has passed, and we have weighed our decision carefully. After much debate, however, we have decided to make the MLSS-21 one of our primary missiles with Aerospace Logisitics being our second largest supplier after Beaufort. I do not see why a suitable price can not be worked out, and we are willing to open negotiations immedeately.
Sincerely,
Fuhrer Richtoff
Vault 10
01-12-2007, 20:40
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: Kampfers
Yes, as discussed previously, we agree to transfer the missiles to you for reduced price. The negotiations specifics are preferably held private as they are.
The shipping is already in process.
Respectfully,
Steven Meyers,
Aerospace Logistics Sales Department.
OOC: Sorry for not responding quickly, due to some reason subscription didn't send the letter.
As for cost, it will be 2x or what I mentioned in the first PM.
//I decided not to push it too far and raised prod. cost since then to account for the "reality!=model" factor and electronics cost. I think you agree it's already quite reasonable - way lower than RL and NS alternate variants, for just slightly weaker damage but much improved AA and CIWS penetration.
Greal wishes to buy 10 million R-1 Battle rifles for 250 billion (8mm). We will wire the money upon confirmation.
Vault 10
04-12-2007, 22:22
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: Greal
Your order is approved. We'll conduct the deliver as previously.
Respectfully,
Steven Meyers,
Aerospace Logistics Sales Department.
Encrypted USSW Defense Department Communication
To the Esteemed Mr. Meyers, Aerospace Logistics Corporation Sales Department,
Our respective representatives having met and discussed the possibility of adding GNAVT's own "Dachnik" double-barreled shotguns to our arsenal, we believe this weapon effectively supplements our existing ones in the relevant tactical scenarios and see fit to purchase. Considering the logistics involved for supporting these new weapons and our stated objectives for them, twenty-five thousand of the large Jager model and another twenty-five thousand of the smaller Yanodachi strike us as sufficient for now. If more are needed, we can simply order to that effect or enter into any other arrangement Aerospace Logistics might deem convenient.
Payment of the required sum ($525,000,000,000 USD) is prepared for wiring by the usual accounts, and we believe operational storage can be quietly achieved using various "special construction" contracts which our Department of Transportation can undertake without undue public comment provided sufficient security on our end; naturally to be supplied by the Department of the Interior and its' capabilities in this regard. Time isn't an undue issue, seeing as this is against projected requirements rather than current. I again thank you for your generous hints towards this fine weapon, and the personal touch as always. We in DoD don't get out even half as much as the bookkeepers in Treasury or Commerce do, much less the Ivory Tower types in State and the General Secretariat; and time to unwind with fellows in our line of work is a precious thing not to be wasted indeed.
Sincerely in Gratitude,
James Dolands
Deputy Secretary of Defense for Procurement, USSW Revolutionary Command Council
Vault 10
07-12-2007, 14:29
Hub Limited Exports
To: USSW Defense Department
Your message has been forwarded to us by ALC (this specific equipment is built by GNAVT, which has cold relations with ALC currently).
Currently, though, as the promotional limited sale amount has been expended, the company's policy has changed to require the equipment sold at this cost (manufacturing cost) to be used under mutual defense agreement once deployed. Simply put, when the deployed orbiters are passing over V10 territory, they will engage in required operations, if necessary; in return, similarly, full recon data exchange and defense assistance will be provided by GNAVT network.
Since our nations are in an alliance, this perhaps would be the case regardless, but we prefer to inform you. This won't require any additional actions on your part but approving orbiter network connection with GNAVT system.
Assuming this is not an issue, we have started the transfer already.
Thanks for your business,
Best regards, A.S.
OOC: See Draftroom.
Vault 10
28-12-2007, 20:45
Effective 0000, January 1st, 2008, three products are cleared for open export to all non-hostile nations. (You can order already, January 1st will be delivery completion date).
NCR Class Multipurpose Submarine (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3264)
R1L and R1C, light versions of the R1 Advanced Combat Rifle (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=139&view=findpost&p=1529276)
Inquire if you need full R1, most good nations will be fine.
Prices have also been slightly lowered on both products to account for amortized R&D costs.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-12-2007, 20:58
Navy Military Purchase Order
Dear sirs, we are interested in acquiring the Mudskipper Hydroplane for use in our naval forces. Due to our current war in the region of Nova Europa, we are afraid that we cannot purchase these vessels in full quantity until after the war is over. We are looking to acquire 2,000 vessels for use, and we would be willing to send a down payment of 10% of the order for you to begin production. The full amount will be paid after the war. Let us know if you find these terms acceptable. Good day.
Vault 10
28-12-2007, 22:50
Hub Limited Exports
To: The Peoples Freedom Navy Procurement
These conditions make it a quite high-risk deal, which we can't afford to undertake on our own. In particular, we would need you to compensate our reinsurance expenses required by the deal. That will lower our losses and free you from debt fines in case the order can't be completed. Considering our relations, we can take the 10% initial payment for the insurance reimbursement. We are sorry that is required, but cost.
On the other hand, with most of our fleet currently docked due to the winter season, we can transfer you 2,000 vessels from our commissioned fleet instead of newly produced just launched hulls. They will take only 6-8 days to reactivate and transit over the ocean at full speed. Since this is a very recent design, all of these hulls are almost perfectly new, in excellent condition, tested and in service, and will be of greater utility in a war than new vessels requiring commissioning tests and preparation.
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
The Silver Sky
29-12-2007, 06:22
Air Force Purchase Order
Dear Anthony Stevens and Hub Exports Limited, we would like to add GNAVT's "Dachnik" double-barreled shotguns to our defensive arsenal to replace some and supplement other parts of our Anti-Space plane and ICBM defenses.
As such we would like to purchase 50,000 of the four-orbiter Jager systems at the cost of $1,600,000,000,000 USD, we will wire a 25% down payment upon confirmation and pay the other 75% upon completion.
Also, we would also like to inquire if the Jager and Yanodachi systems are capable of being launched from VLS cells on warships, this interest us as a way to greatly increase the safety of forces attack other nations from space borne threats.
Sincerely,
Jason Goodson
Head of Air Force Procurement Divison
Vault 10
29-12-2007, 19:08
Hub Limited Exports
To: Jason Goodson
Air Force Procurement Divison
Your order is confirmed. We'll begin transfer of the first shipments shortly.
These specific versions are only designed for launch from static installations, as they don't have the reinforcement needed for shipboard transportation and launch. However, the development of adapted variants is nearing completion, and we'll provide the information about it after the testing.
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
Vault 10
21-01-2008, 04:51
OOC:
New product.
SAMP - Special Anti-Materiel Pistol (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1908). Uses caseless ammo, can be designed for the caliber of choice. Semi-auto, full auto. MT and PMT versions.
Vault 10
22-03-2008, 02:46
MLSA-10 "Dart" MANPADS (http://z3.invisionfree.com/HighTech/index.php?showtopic=68) - this one I consider one of my best designs. A man-portable SAM, like Stinger, but the whole system weighs just 5kg, 1/3 that of Stinger's 15kg, while the performance is comparable. Higher hit probability, though a bit less damage, it all balances out. Due to low weight, "Dart" can be carried even as a secondary weapon, and only needs 1 person to operate.
See the link for how it's achieved.
It's available for $25,000 a piece, or $20,000 in purchases over a million.
Aslagiea
22-03-2008, 02:53
Aslagiea would like to purchase 10,000 5.56 caliber R-1 rifles
Vault 10
22-03-2008, 03:08
http://www.freewebs.com/vault_10/ALC1.PNG
Hub Limited Exports
To: Aslagiea
We can provide that, at the total cost of $180 million.
However, we would suggest that you consider using 6.3mm or 8mm caliber. While that will lose the compatibility with 5.56 caliber, 6.3mm and especially 8mm offer excellent armor penetration and accuracy. Due to the fully balanced design of R1, the recoil even with 8mm caliber is lower than that of M16, and caseless ammunition reduces the weight.
The 8mm version has also been designed accept most 7.62mm ammo, and can be used as a marksman rifle or a light machinegun, best at long ranges or against well armored targets. 6.3mm is a lighter caliber for short ranges and poorly armored or unarmored targets.
Please respond if you decide to reconsider for 6.3mm or 8mm caliber.
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
Holy Marsh
24-03-2008, 10:43
The nation of the Holy Marsh wishes to purchase 2,000,000 MANPADS for $10 Billion, and we wish to discuss DPR rights.
Vault 10
25-03-2008, 03:50
Hub Limited Exports
To: Holy Marsh
That will be $40 billion, at $20,000*2,000,000.
Our DPR scheme is semi-individual, and in your case the DPR together with essential technology transfer will cost additional $10 billion to the purchase, to a total of $50 billion for 2 million units plus DPR.
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
Holy Marsh
25-03-2008, 07:52
Yes, $40 Billion. When I originally sent out the order, it was for a different amount of weapons. Then we talked about the effectiveness of this over the Stinger, and I upped the order but forgot to do the new math. Either way, $40 billion for the weapons and $10 billion for DPR rights have been wired to you.
Vault 10
26-03-2008, 15:08
Hub Limited Exports
To: Holy Marsh
Fine. The transport of the missiles will be completed by airlift in a matter of days.
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
Vault 10
29-03-2008, 17:09
Notice: Aerospace Logistics Corporation (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showforum=34)
Vault 10
15-05-2008, 20:45
Two new designs:
F-5M "Tigro El Cheapo" fighter (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13693530#post13693530)
Starting at $4 million a unit, depends on variants.
Laertes IV Advanced Ejector Seat (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=556077)
Starting at $300,000.
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Zinairian Military Authority
Department of Procurement
19 National Plaza, Zinaire City
In order to compliment our current stock of F200s and HK 416s, we would like to order 100,000 R1s chambered at 6.3mm ($3.5 million USD), 50,000 at 8mm ($1.75 million USD), 25,000 R1Ms ($1.25 million USD), 25,000 R1Cs at 6.3mm ($300,000 USD) and 10,000 R1GPMs ($700,000 USD). We hope this order will help to improve our military capabilities and we look forward to doing future business with you. Money (a total of $7.5 million USD) will be wired upon confirmation.
Sir Logan Montelimar Sr.
Chancellor of Procurment
Vault 10
18-05-2008, 10:00
http://www.freewebs.com/vault_10/ALC1.PNG
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: Zinairian Military Authority
Department of Procurement
Sir Logan Montelimar Sr.
Regretfully, there has been a misreading of the price; cost would be $7.5 billion rather than million. However, as the total order is large enough at 210,000, and to apologize for the confusion, we'll make you eligible for bulk prices (as long as retail packaging and servicing, intended for small-volume users, aren't needed), so the cost will be $6,625 million ($6.625 billion).
Shipment will start if that's acceptable.
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
OOC: Okay, thank you. Never was good at reading long form numbers, too many digits for their own good. Order still stands.
Vault 10
18-05-2008, 18:49
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: Zinairian Military Authority
Department of Procurement
Sir Logan Montelimar Sr.
Your order is confirmed, then. We'll ship the weapons upon transfer of $6625 million, in full assembled conditions, with base ammo loads. Further ammunition will be supplied on request of division commanders, and you receive production plans for most ammunition.
Looking forward to doing business with you,
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
Pan-Arab Barronia
18-05-2008, 19:48
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Office of Procurement
Magisteriate for War and Administration of Conflict
Campitor Building
St George Wharf
New Misenae
C1W 5EL
Dear Sir,
It has come to our attention a dire need of an upgrade in our infantry weapons systems.
We have perused the market available, and we have found that the R1 series fits our requirements. The weapons are evidently well-designed, and offer an edge over adversaries in that so few nations use this line of weaponry.
We should like to apply for 8 million units under the "Full Supply" model, which will be composed of the following:
5,000,000 R1 Variant Rifles in 8mm calibre
1,500,000 R1GPM Variant Auto-Rifles in 8mm calibre
500,000 R1M Marksman Variant Rifles in 8mm calibre
1,000,000 R1L Lightened Variant Rifles in 8mm calibre
We would also like to ascertain the arrangements by which we can arrange for rights to manufacture the rounds in Barronia. Until then, we will be happy to purchase 80,000,000 of the standard round (CL8-25) whilst we train our personnel in the new weapon.
Overall, we believe the cost to be $200,000,000,000 ($200 billion) for the weapons.
As UFAN members, we hope you see fit to accomodate our order. As these weapons will continually need replacing - ALC is therefore highly welcome to establish manufacturing zones in Barronia to allow us to replace these weapons at short notice.
Yours,
(Miss) Adj. Lt. India Holliday
Procurement Officer
Barronian Armed Services Adjudent-General's Corps
OOC: Wow, someone's got too much time on their hands :p
Seriously, though, I like it. Looks good from the picture, at least. Having had a read of the essay you've put out for it...complicated but neat.
Out of curiousity, I've opted for the 6.3mm round - what are the benefits over the 8mm?
Vault 10
18-05-2008, 20:05
OOC:
Out of curiousity, I've opted for the 6.3mm round - what are the benefits over the 8mm?
It's lighter. And has less recoil, although the recoil is already low. But that's it, in the rest 8mm is better.
Really today as every dog buys superheavy body armour it might make sense to shift to 8mm, as it's a better armour-piercer. Also it's more accurate, and it has more power, i.e. quickly incapacitates. Although 6.3 should perhaps pierce that Lyras' suit as well, but 8mm would do it definitely. As for weight, CL8-25 is in fact lighter than 5.56 NATO.
Delaying the IC post now in case you change your mind, or confirm staying at 6.3.
Pan-Arab Barronia
18-05-2008, 20:08
OOC:
It's lighter. And has less recoil, although the recoil is already low. But that's it, in the rest 8mm is better.
Really today as every dog buys superheavy body armour it might make sense to shift to 8mm, as it's a better armour-piercer. Also it's more accurate, and it has more power, i.e. quickly incapacitates. Although 6.3 should perhaps pierce that Lyras' suit as well, but 8mm would do it definitely. Plus two other nations from UFAN use 8mm, and it has all chances to become the alliance' main calibre - replacing both 5 to 7mm and .50.
Delaying the IC post now in case you reconsider.
OOC: Well, a) nothing like being able to punch through armour, and b) I'd like to be in sync with UFAN on this. I'll edit to 8mm. Thanks!
Vault 10
18-05-2008, 20:31
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Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: Barronian Armed Services Adjudent-General's
(Miss) Adj. Lt. India Holliday
Your order is acknowledged, and we'll start shipping by air pronto.
You'll receive initial shipment of rounds, as well as manufacturing plans, technologies and rights for all current and future rounds.
Generally the R1 is a very long-lived weapon, but, of course, eventually replacement will be needed. As customary for the Full Supply scheme, the assembly will be done on factories built in your nation, as well as some of the manufacturing equipment.
And, as allies and partners, we certainly welcome your invitation to establish manufacturing zones. If given certain liberties (particularly, no elaborate taxation - we prefer to just pay fixed rent instead), we'll be happy to extend our manufacturing facilities to your nation, for mutual benefit.
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
Pan-Arab Barronia
18-05-2008, 23:11
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Office of Procurement
Magisteriate for War and Administration of Conflict
Campitor Building
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New Misenae
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Sales Department
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
Hub
RE Order for Munitions
Reference MWAC-P85-77C6
Dear Sir,
Further to our original order, the confirmation of which comes with great appreciation, we would like to add the following:
17,000,000 SAMP-1080 Auto
5,000,000 Lasersight/Rangefinder with Auto-Compensation
1,000,000 Red-dot Night Vision Scope
3,000,000 MLSA-10 MANPAD
We believe the total cost to be $154,200,000,000 ($154.2 billion).
Yours,
(Miss) Adj. Lt. India Holliday
Procurement Officer
Barronian Armed Services Adjudent-General's Corps
Vault 10
18-05-2008, 23:35
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: Barronian Armed Services Adjudent-General's
(Miss) Adj. Lt. India Holliday
The order is accepted. Special Anti-Materiel Pistols and the MLSA-10 Dart MANPADS will be shipped to you along with the rifles, in escorted airlift flights.
Looking forward to further relations,
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
Vault 10
24-05-2008, 08:10
OOC:
BTW, MLSA-10 and the CLAP and SAMP pistols are now open for sale to all nations (no restrictions).
MLSS-21 and Dachnik systems are still restricted.
The PeoplesFreedom
14-06-2008, 19:18
Joint Military Procurement Order
The Holy Reich is interested in purchasing unlimited domestic production rights with no intention of resale for the MLSA-10 'Dart' MANPADS. We are also interested in further hammering out the details involved in purchasing the F-5M combat aircraft.
OOC: I have already begun roleplaying with the F-5M as we had previously discussed, but I suspect it would be a good idea to put it into writing here.
Vault 10
14-06-2008, 19:40
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Hub Limited Exports
To: The Peoples Freedom
The cost of unlimited no-resale DPR for MLSA-10 will be $40 billion.
As for the F-5M, which further detail are you interested in?
The main information can be seen in this overview (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13693530).
If you are interested in the MV (extra-short takeoff and landing version, with limited vertical capability), which is not yet publicly available, we can provide the pre-release planes to you as our allies now. It will costs $1,500,000 more than the respective standard one, however, and is about a meter longer.
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
The PeoplesFreedom
14-06-2008, 19:50
Official Reply to ALC
Indeed, we would be willing to purchase this new version, as well as the single seat and duel seat variants using jet fuel instead of hydrogen, as we have no existing hydrogen logistics. Depending on ALC's preferences, we can buy full producing rights or come to an agreement on a specific number of fighters.
Vault 10
14-06-2008, 19:58
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: The Peoples Freedom
Complete production rights will cost, per our policy, 50% of the development cost. Specifically, in this case, it will be $150 billion. Of course, it includes all variants. Most of this price will also be discounted from future purchases of DPR for other F-5 derived aircraft to be released.
We assume the MLSA-10 "Dart" purchase is confirmed?
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
The PeoplesFreedom
14-06-2008, 20:05
Reply to ALC
This is, of course, acceptable. We will begin payments the following fiscal year, and they will last five fiscal years. We eagerly await future F-5 developments.
Vault 10
14-06-2008, 20:11
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: The Peoples Freedom
The order is confirmed. We'll transfer all information, special equipment, sample component and aircraft, and production specialists within a short time.
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
P.S. Check the PM on the HT forum.
Third Spanish States
04-09-2008, 03:21
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FROM: Ruiz Sanchez, MilNet Private Defense Agency manager and representative ([eddnet]rsanchez@milnet)
SUBJECT: Full supply purchase of the R1 ACR
Greetings, our organization has become interested in purchasing the Full Supply rights for a million of R1 ACRs chambered for the 8mm caliber, in accordance to a a single specification beyond the mere product, for we ask for a service: we would like absolute secrecy about this transaction, which thus has never happened, and have no registers of the same in any accounting, financial, managerial or sales databases or documents, or similar files of any type or class. As of now, I am ready to wire the total value of twenty-five billions through multiple bank account transfers.
Vault 10
03-11-2008, 18:52
[Sorry for delay. I was on a leave from NS, you perhaps know.]
Classified
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: [eddnet]rsanchez@milnet
The order is confirmed.
We surely can perform the transaction without any additional records. Our company doesn't answer to any government or other body, and has division independency. The weapons will be transferred from individual divisions, as supposedly replacements.
With best regards,
Anthony Stevens.
Classified Message via the Department of Research, Evolution, and Development
We require the following equipment:
400 Muddskipper combat hydroplanes, equipped with double modules of anti-ship missiles. We estimate the price to be 16 billion, but we are not certain of the price quote so feel free to correct our error.
We additionally requite 1,000 Jager and 10,000 Frogger missiles.
192 billion dollars will be transferred upon confirmation.
Vault 10
06-11-2008, 02:51
Classified
Hub Limited Exports
To: Allanea, Department of Research, Evolution, and Development
The price for the regular variant of Mudskipper, equipped with NCR Heavy Industries powertrain and standard fuel tank, is indeed $40 million a unit. Normally, it's the only one exported, as it offers the best "bang for the buck". For Allanea, of course, we could sell the restricted version with Symmetriad powertrain and improved fuel system, which offers more speed, better fuel efficiency, a range over 9000 km, and higher reliability, however, at a somewhat higher cost of $50 million a unit. These would cost 20 billion for 400.
The recommended anti-ship configuration is to have the hydroplanes equipped with 6 double modules of MLSS-21 missile launchers (http://z3.invisionfree.com/HighTech/index.php?showtopic=57), in 315mm variant, for 24 missiles total as the main weapon. The rest would be taken by 2 single defensive modules (totaling 24 CIWS missiles, 8 SAM, 2 machineguns), a single service module (deck 1 - medical, deck 2 - repair equipment), and a single hydrogen generation module, to let the vessel refuel from the power grid where liquid hydrogen is not available.
The deal with transferring the ABM defense systems has been secured. They should arrive within 3 months.
Respectfully,
Dennis Vermont.
Classified DREAD response
We will happily purchase 400 Mudskippers at $50 billion per unit. Additional funds will be wired upon confirmation.
Vault 10
09-11-2008, 17:50
Classified
Hub Limited Exports
To: Allanea, Department of Research, Evolution, and Development
Certainly. The order correction is confirmed; 400 vessels should be arriving shortly.
Respectfully,
Dennis Vermont.
TO: Hub Limited Exports
FROM: Lyran Governmental Trade Department
RE: Laertes IV
In accordance with ongoing development of the LY908 Warhawk, we request to acquire domestic production rights to the Symmetriad Laertes IV ejection seat, at the given price of NS$35bn.
Should there be issues, please let us know.
Regards
General Aleksandr
Director
Lyran Governmental Trade Department
Bredubar
Protectorate of Lyras
Vault 10
02-05-2009, 01:30
Official transmission
Hub Limited Exports
To: General Aleksandr
Lyran Governmental Trade Department
Greetings. The deal with Symmetriad has been arranged. The documentation and equipment required for the production of the Laertes IV ejection seat should be arriving within the day.
Respectfully,
Dennis Vermont.
M.A.C Heavy Industries | Defense
M.A.C wishes to enquire about the possibility of fitting our INF-2000 multirole fighters with the Symmetriad Laertes IV Advanced Ejection Seats.
If possible we wish to obtain the license to manufacture them and equip our aircraft with these seats,for them to be sold as standard equipment with the aircraft.
Please give us a price quote.
Thank you,
M.A.C Heavy Industries Defense Management.
Vault 10
04-05-2009, 20:54
Official transmission
Hub Limited Exports
To: M.A.C Heavy Industries
We have completed out inquiry with the Symmetriad Group.
Installation of the Laertes IV into INF-2000 is possible, both as a retrofit and for new units. The cost will be $500,000 per aircraft for the standard seat only, which includes all safety features, or $900,000 in a full package configuration. The latter adds a lifetime package of special flight suits and helmets, designed to make the best out of the seat's capabilities. Among other things, when connected to the seat's systems, they increase the pilot's g-tolerance by about 15% for positive or 40% for negative g-force (1g).
This cost is billed automatically as the seats are shipped, and permits both domestic use or resale.
A permanent license (at the allies/partners price you're eligible for) will cost $50 billion for the full package or $35 billion for the seat only. It includes transfer of all necessary documentation, technology and special equipment, and permits, without restrictions, building and selling any aircraft equipped with Laertes IV.
Respectfully,
Dennis Vermont.
Third Spanish States
05-05-2009, 04:55
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FROM: Elis Navarre , MilNet Project manager ([eddnet]enavarre@milnet)
SUBJECT: Purchase request for the CLAP Pistol
Greetings, our organization has been extremely satisfied with the performance of the R1 ACR and with your services, and considering the reputation the Brotherhood of Steel has for technological advancement, we would like to purchase eighty-four SAMP-1080 Cyber pistols, the same requisitions of maintaining secrecy over this transaction standing. We will wire $900,000 upon confirmation.
(OOC: In brief, they wasted countless billions in a "human augmentation" black project where from 150,000 voluntary subjects(most handicapped soldiers because of land mines etc. who would just ask for euthanasia otherwise), only in 84 the "Advanced Brain-Computer Interface, combat-enhanced prosthetics" implants worked as intended, and to not just waste everything on the drain, they had to find specialist equipment so although totally impractical from an economical standpoint(not counting the "maintenance nightmare" these things require), the end result wouldn't be completely useless.)
Vault 10
06-05-2009, 01:36
Aerospace Logistics Corporation
To: Elis Navarre, [eddnet]enavarre@milnet
We'll transport the items with the next ALC passenger flight to Third Spanish States. Please prepare a porter to help a woman wearing yellow sunglasses with three kids carry their six suitcases to the hotel of your choice. She will also assist you with calibrating the integration the electronic systems of the product with yours.
Truly yours,
Michelle Patissiere,
Safety Cookware Division.