NationStates Jolt Archive


The Ascent of Tyranny (MT)

The Scandinvans
16-10-2007, 03:38
It had been a number of years since the rebellion of the Norse First Party had been resolved by the meeting of the Emperor Olaf IV and the leaders of the rebellion where the leaders had all been granted blanket amnesty in exchange for their withdrawal of politics and swearing allegiance to the Emperor. Now after those many years had come the rise of the powerful Prince Olaf V whom had strong sympathies for the goals of Norse First and sought achieve goals of a very similar to those that the revolution had sought to attain.

As well he had strong support amongst the Valgardian nobility, the intellectuals of the nation, the conservatives, veterans, the other elites, and through the Scandinvan Imperial Armed Forces. To satisfy this elements, and his own beliefs as well, he would begin the persecution of the first group that would start a long era of persecution, the first to go would be the immigrants to the Empire who had long been subject to hate and injustice. As well, the hate of the people of the Empire for the people whom they had come to hate due to the people of other races destroying the racial ‘purity’ of other European countries and they saw it as the duty of the Scandinvan people to purify the other countries and save the European race from vanishing due to intermixing.

With all this support Prince Olaf V had been able to coerce his father, Emperor Olaf IV and the Great, to grant him total control of the Imperial throne in his state of declining health due to old age. So with this new found power the Prince, now Emperor the Fifth, rose to fulfill his motives and to begin the purification and militarization of the Scandinvan Empire with legions of soldiers who would fight till the end for their Emperor, the Empire, and for the sake of the whole of the European race. As well, after the Empire was purified the great crusade would begin as the Empire would begin the conquest of foreign lands and secure them for the European race and to destroy the non-European populations of the world.

To publicize the beginning of his the Emperor would address his plan before the House of Lords and have the message spread by the Imperial News Network and to harness the hate o the vastly majority of the Empire who were racist and xenophobic which would allow the new ascended Emperor to begin the reign of terror that he had been planning for over a decade now and had planned nearly possible detail and how to respond to nearly any possible situation.

Imperial News Network:

The Emperor walking toward the high pure marble and gold mantle, reserved for the Emperor alone to speak and for any others to speak on it would get up to one hundred lashes, Stepping forward the Emperor began to speak in the old Valgardian tongue that was no longer spoken by the common people, and now was a language of the learned and of the nobility mostly, in which he said,” My brothers, my sisters, my kinsmen of the House of Lords and of the Scandinvan Empire… for years now we have been forced to see as the pure blood of the Nords, nay all those of true descent of our sacred mother Europe, begins to fade from this green Earth.

These patterns of the dwindling of our divine and God given blood, the fading of our people’s numbers, the open acceptance of inferior and mongrel cultures, the toleration of the birth of half breeds, the rise in the number of race traitors, and the mixing of our true and pure race with those of lesser blood.

What shall we do in the face of these tragedies?

I say that the time of the decline of our glorious race needs to come to an end, by whatever means is necessary.”

Stopping for a pause the crowd erupted in a large applause as nobles dressed in traditional robes and armor, were joined by important persons and politicians in suits clapping in a loud applause of their Emperor whom had last come to share the beliefs of the other politicians and that of the nobility. In the past the Scandinvan Emperors had long been the only ones who had prevented an outright genocide of the minority groups of the Empire and with that the future would be unclear.

Returning to his speech Olaf continued,” For this we must rid ourselves of the swine, become unified as a whole, and end the practice of interracial breeding!

Who is with me?"

Again all the men in the room cheered and later that day an act was officially which banned interracial marriage, prevented non-Europeans from obtaining citizenship, banned non-Europeans from joining the army, no longer recognized mixed race children, denied social services to non true bloods (pure Europeans), and began a program to remove all non true bloods from the Empire within the next five years.

Secretly though, the Emperor had begun the mobilization of the Scandinvan armed forced and had begun rounding the leading figures of the mixed race community and the leaders of the other racial communities. As well, the Emperor had revoked the citizenship of any persons who had sired children of mixed blood and the removal of the birth certificates of mixed persons so that they may no longer be given the protection of Scandinvan law as citizens.

OOC: More to come and remember the rounds ups are secret and, but feel free to respond.
The Scandinvans
16-10-2007, 04:51
The Imperial Army began to set up camps as the political dissidents were being held and had begun a number chart for the key persons that needed to be subdued in the name of the Empire.

Number of People Killed: 5,346,712
Number Arrested: 13,216,410
People Targeted for Arrest: 41,831,821

OOC: Just a numbers post really.
The Scandinvans
16-10-2007, 22:20
Imperial News Network:

"Earlier today Prince Karl, brother to the current Emperor Olaf V, was officaly declared a traitor to the Empire, to the traditions of the Imperial family, and has broken the long standing blood purity laws of the Imperial family. Due to this the Imperial Guard was sent to arrest; but sadly four hundred traitor soldiers, loyal to the mongrel lover Prince Karl, fought to defend him allowing him to flee with his wife, a Princess from a country that shall not currently be named, have fled overseas to an Imperial Dukedom in the nation of Xeraph where the Prince has control over and there they have, at least temporaily, taken shelter with a number of followers and their respective retinues.

The Empire has also begun the purging of generals and soldiers in the army that have strong sympathies for non-true bloods, and in a few cases those who have been proven to be lying about their ancestries.

Currently, though the Emperor, in his infinite grace and wisdom, has intiated a program that will families, who are of mixed descent, to migrate to other countries and recieve full prices of their properties and to bring their personal assets to the countries they are fleeing to without any interfernce by the Imperial government of the Scandinvan Empire.

So all remember that the Empire shall prevail!

Lady Erida out."
The Scandinvans
17-10-2007, 03:25
As the few people who would resist the had now either fled the nation, been killed, had been sent into the now growing political prison camps, had simply disappeared entirely, or had gone into hiding from fear of being sent to the growing camps or being flat our killed where they were found. Due to the loss of any dissent from leaders of the Scandinvan communities the Emperor decided to begin the round up of those he saw as the worst of the worst, those persons of mixed racial descent. To achieve this the Imperial Legion’s newly formed group, The Trackers, were released who would round up those of mixed race birth at night, from there they would send them upon trucks to the well hidden camps that served as a place for the beginning of the removal of the ‘taint’ of mixed persons upon his nations.

The Empire, in the face of the growing tyrannical actions within its borders, banned foreign persons from entering the Scandinvan Empire, expelled all foreigners who were not either diplomats or people with special permits given to them by the Empire, and banned all Scanidnvans from leaving the Empire, the internet was now only aviable on Scandinvan websites, all foreign media and communications where jammed once they entered Imperial airspace, foreign Satellite signals were monitored if they transmitted into the Empire, except with special permits which were only given to rich and important nobility and businessmen who were in sympathy of the current policies that the Empire was beginning to implement.

The loss of already people numbering in the millions caused for a dissent group that exited within the military began to gather evidence, in the form of a video, which would be released to the international community by the dissidents to show the growing horrors that had begun to exist in the Empire of the Scandinvans. As well, the group itself had managed to infiltrate a number of the groups that were being formed to implement the horrors that the Emperor was implementing, save for the Trackers whom they managed to videotape by other clandestine operations.

Video:

A man in a solid black outfit, that hid the entirety of his physical appearance, and he spoke in a voice, altered beyond all possible recognition and descrambling by a number of different devices, in which he said,” Citizens of this world that we live, what we call Earth, my government has hidden things in the world behind the prestige, glory, and majesty that is what the White Throne of Valgard truly represents. Yet, now, even now as I speak, the mad Emperor, Olaf V, has begun to undertake actions that, by all accounts, are beyond the basest of any standard of human ethics.

Though my testimony, as an unknown person of unknown origins, many not be taken as creditable by a vast majority of this audience I do not ask that you blindly listen to me, but to look at images and video images that I am about to show to you all as evidence of my régime. If any of you believe that this these might be doctored in any I invite you to attempt to prove them as such a type of documents, which I can assure are not falsified in any way though I am most certain my government will deny them and may well kill all those who have risked their lives to produce this move for you. One note, though this movie is extremely graphic so please do not allow people who are to young to watch this.”

The movie then blacked out for a second then an image played forward, with full audio, showed an image of Imperial soldiers arresting black preachers an a Church congress, then the next one emerged as over one hundred Arabic Moslem Sheiks and other Moslem leaders dead with four smiling soldiers standing near them, another image showed Asian women being gunned down as they ran away from a military truck, many images of currently rolled by, and then a gruesome image of biracial children being starved to death in a prison camp.

A voice then said,” Are these the true means by which to better the world? Are such actions tolerable by any standard?”

As the voice faded a video then emerged that showed the conditions of countless persons being simply starved to death in a massive prison camp, then another video of the mass killings of thousands of innocents civilians by Imperial soldiers, and then the last showed a video of tranquil rural of a couple thousand people of various visible racial groups, with one key feature all of them were partially of a different race. Then as the video went forward more there could be seen dozens of trucks and tanks that surrounded the town at night and then gun shots erupted everywhere as Trackers poured into the town and killed all who resists, even some who they wanted to kill for the fun of it. This went on for only another fifteen minutes as only a third of the town’s population was left to be sent to a prison camp which was essentially a concentration camp.

The voice then returned as the screen went blank and it said,” Such evil cannot stand so that is why I submit this to the international community in order so that these atrocities cannot be allowed to stand in this day and age. Who will aide our people to rid ourselves of such evil and tyranny?”

Thus the movie was sent through the internet by exploiting a download site and then redirecting it to international media sites. As well, a number of DVDs and VHS tapes were smuggled out on small boats and with them men intended to deliver them to any news group that would receive them.

OOC: Any group of government or group, within your own nation, can recieve this document if you want, by either one of the delivery man or through the internet, your choice really.
Tartarystan
17-10-2007, 03:53
Official Communique of the Most Serene and Holy Altaic Empire of Tartarystan

As a nation with historically extremely friendly relations with the Scandinvan Empire and as a nation whose royal house also has extremely close ties with Scandinvan Empire, the recent actions of the Scandinvan crown puts Tartarystan into an interesting position. As an officially Altaic nation (with concessions logically made to the national Judeo-Islamic semitic minority), this puts Tartarystan's racial status at question. The Holy Altaic Empire requests a Scandinvan opinion on ourselves.
Daehanjeiguk
17-10-2007, 03:57
(VSIC - in fact if you know about this, then you should be hanging from inside my dungeons):

An emissary came quickly from a certain ministry bearing Imperial documents.

"The departure of the elderly Emperor Olaf IV has brought change in one of our close friends. The safety of the Imperial Line is at risk, and already we have received word that the Emperor's family is not even safe to stay abroad. Shall we recall our embassies?"

The Emperor rose immediately. "Where is Yeonghwa?"

"She has taken refuge, my liege."

"Where to?"

"It is unknown at the moment, but for her safety, I believe that it is best not to pursue those lines of communication, for fear that stimulating activity might cause more damage to us than necessary. If we cannot find them, they will not."

"I wish to have a message sent to the prior Emperor."

Immediately, the scribes came forward and prepared the instruments.


=== To His Majesty, the Emperor Olaf IV ===

It is with dear concern that I have heard news of uncivil activities in your land, and I know that your hand is no longer over the blessed Realm. But I must ask you to beseech your son to be more pious and demonstrate the nature of a civil man, and not to approach others with extreme reproach. I cannot find much solace to know that Imperial subjects abroad may be subject to harassment and I can only pray that they are being ignored. I remind His Majesty that the people of Han has cultivated for a long time a great friendship, and it would bear me much pain to see your country be responsible for the collapse of the entente that has cultivated much closer relations than those of previous times. Yours is among those countries West of Han that understands our culture deeply, and we feel that this turn only hurts the reputation of the people West of Han. Please, whatever is within your power, I ask that you make peace with your people and seek to make things more amenable to stability than chaos.

And personally, I must inquire as to the fate of the young Prince Karl and his betrothed. I hope that they are well, for I have sent my envoys there with my blessing. I cannot stress the importance that this blessing be protected with as much within your power as is within mine, for I can little tolerate the loss of even one of mine own citizens - to lose my own blood would not fare much better. I cannot forget the blood of Han, and if Han blood is split, rest assured, those of your kin may soon follow - if not of my accord, then those of my people. It is much better if we come together as friends and brothers than as enemies, for there is much more to gain by this than to resort to violent tendencies - a characteristic I nobly acknowledge and find in the present Emperor, and a characteristic I nobly acknowledge and find is absent in you and your close kin.

I send this message with my blessings to your health, and if need be, I can send physicians with alternative methods to help ease your ailing health. May Heaven bring you fortune.

Emperor Gwangmu
李命福大皇光武帝
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gif
The Scandinvans
17-10-2007, 04:10
Official Communique of the Most Serene and Holy Altaic Empire of Tartarystan

As a nation with historically extremely friendly relations with the Scandinvan Empire and as a nation whose royal house also has extremely close ties with Scandinvan Empire, the recent actions of the Scandinvan crown puts Tartarystan into an interesting position. As an officially Altaic nation (with concessions logically made to the national Judeo-Islamic semitic minority), this puts Tartarystan's racial status at question. The Holy Altaic Empire requests a Scandinvan opinion on ourselves.The own race we view as closer to Europeans, without being of mixed blood, though we do see you as inferior the only laws that apply to your kind in our nation are that they may not marry Europeans or hold titles belonging to the pure line of the Imperial family of the Scandinvans.

Singed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida
Tartarystan
17-10-2007, 04:24
Official Communique of the Most Serene and Holy Altaic Empire of Tartarystan

As there are no naturalized Altaic citizens in your Empire, those are not particularly worrying issues. Though the Holy Altaic Empire does not support all of the actions made in your country, the Holy Altaic Empire will recognize the sovereignty of your Empire. However, the Holy Altaic Empire will be accepting Semitic (Jewish or Arabic) emigres from the Scandinvan Empire and will be disencouraging any aggressive action your Empire may be taken. Aggressive war will jeopardize the commercial interests of the Holy Altaic Empire.
The Beatus
17-10-2007, 04:58
The Blessed Wire Service

Our finest scientist at the Great Monastery have determined this so called "Genocide Tape" to be completely false. They believe this tape was released in a pathetic attempt to destabilize the Scandinvan Empire. How they know its a fake? Well they do not believe that anyone could be that evil. Up next, is the Great Bob...
The Scandinvans
17-10-2007, 23:55
(VSIC - in fact if you know about this, then you should be hanging from inside my dungeons):

An emissary came quickly from a certain ministry bearing Imperial documents.

"The departure of the elderly Emperor Olaf IV has brought change in one of our close friends. The safety of the Imperial Line is at risk, and already we have received word that the Emperor's family is not even safe to stay abroad. Shall we recall our embassies?"

The Emperor rose immediately. "Where is Yeonghwa?"

"She has taken refuge, my liege."

"Where to?"

"It is unknown at the moment, but for her safety, I believe that it is best not to pursue those lines of communication, for fear that stimulating activity might cause more damage to us than necessary. If we cannot find them, they will not."

"I wish to have a message sent to the prior Emperor."

Immediately, the scribes came forward and prepared the instruments.


=== To His Majesty, the Emperor Olaf IV ===

It is with dear concern that I have heard news of uncivil activities in your land, and I know that your hand is no longer over the blessed Realm. But I must ask you to beseech your son to be more pious and demonstrate the nature of a civil man, and not to approach others with extreme reproach. I cannot find much solace to know that Imperial subjects abroad may be subject to harassment and I can only pray that they are being ignored. I remind His Majesty that the people of Han has cultivated for a long time a great friendship, and it would bear me much pain to see your country be responsible for the collapse of the entente that has cultivated much closer relations than those of previous times. Yours is among those countries West of Han that understands our culture deeply, and we feel that this turn only hurts the reputation of the people West of Han. Please, whatever is within your power, I ask that you make peace with your people and seek to make things more amenable to stability than chaos.

And personally, I must inquire as to the fate of the young Prince Karl and his betrothed. I hope that they are well, for I have sent my envoys there with my blessing. I cannot stress the importance that this blessing be protected with as much within your power as is within mine, for I can little tolerate the loss of even one of mine own citizens - to lose my own blood would not fare much better. I cannot forget the blood of Han, and if Han blood is split, rest assured, those of your kin may soon follow - if not of my accord, then those of my people. It is much better if we come together as friends and brothers than as enemies, for there is much more to gain by this than to resort to violent tendencies - a characteristic I nobly acknowledge and find in the present Emperor, and a characteristic I nobly acknowledge and find is absent in you and your close kin.

I send this message with my blessings to your health, and if need be, I can send physicians with alternative methods to help ease your ailing health. May Heaven bring you fortune.

Emperor Gwangmu
李命福大皇光武帝
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gifEmperor Olaf IV, though now beyond the years alloted to him, had long known that his doom was near so he know that he would not be able to shut the jaws of the doom that now faced the people of the Scandinvans Empire. But, as the former Emperor he still commanded enough power to be able to send a message through secretly and to be able to protect the people that were closest to him from the genocide that was taking place throughout the Scandinvan Empire. Thus he knew what he had to write.

Imperial Reponse Letter:

I sadly can no longer excerize the authority and power I once had due to my son, the current Emperor Olaf V, has managed to degrade my status to little more then that of a respected elder. Due to this I am no longer able to control the law of the Empire and in no way capable of challenging my son's plans. Sadly, the actions that are spoken in the video, from my own sources, inform me that it is true, at least parts of it.

As for your kinswoman I can assure her safety as I have managed to be able to send a number of regiments of my guardsmen who are still loyal to me and my son. As for where they went to a fief (a duchy of islands), which I have given to Prince Karl for his own, which exists in the country of Xeraph and where I am certain that Olaf V hands cannot yet reach and where they might have safe haven for at least ten years.

Signed,
Former Emperor,
Olaf IV
The Scandinvans
18-10-2007, 00:41
Official Communique of the Most Serene and Holy Altaic Empire of TartarystanWe thank you for your recognition of our Empire's right to its own self determination. As well, we assure that any of our intentions shall not targeted at cutting the income that you recieve from trade with the Scandinvan Empire.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida
The Scandinvans
18-10-2007, 00:48
The Blessed Wire Service

Our finest scientist at the Great Monastery have determined this so called "Genocide Tape" to be completely false. They believe this tape was released in a pathetic attempt to destabilize the Scandinvan Empire. How they know its a fake? Well they do not believe that anyone could be that evil. Up next, is the Great Bob...Secret Imperial Telegram:

For your support of the Imperial governments stance on those who would seek to bring down the unity and destroy the Scandinvan's international reputation we have approved the granting to your group a total of ten billion standard dollars, in exchange for your continued dismissal of the crackpot claims of a few groups that seek to bring down our nation's just and humane government.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida
The Beatus
18-10-2007, 00:55
Secret Imperial Telegram:

For your support of the Imperial governments stance on those who would seek to bring down the unity and destroy the Scandinvan's international reputation we have approved the granting to your group a total of ten billion standard dollars, in exchange for your continued dismissal of the crackpot claims of a few groups that seek to bring down our nation's just and humane government.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida

To Lord Erida,

We are appalled by your offer of a bribe. The Path of the Blessed will not be bought. We serve the Great Bob and no one else. What do you take us for, Catholics?

From the desk of,
Bradly A. Kenning
Archbishop of The Path of the Blessed
The Scandinvans
18-10-2007, 01:05
To Lord Erida,

We are appalled by your offer of a bribe. The Path of the Blessed will not be bought. We serve the Great Bob and no one else. What do you take us for, Catholics?

From the desk of,
Bradly A. Kenning
Archbishop of The Path of the BlessedWe do not consider it as bribe as more of an attempt to garner support of your group so as to maintain good relations with you. As we did not know that you would see it as a bribe we apologize and retract our offer.
Daehanjeiguk
18-10-2007, 02:51
(ooc: talking about random...)

The Emperor received the message from the ailing Olaf, and it seemed evident in the choice of his words that his time was past; the only thing waiting was Death. Still, he was pleased to hear that at least partially his family was safe. But there was no reason to believe that the situation would get better any sooner.

"We must consider this in due," the Ministers said.

"We will not consider anything worth more than what it is," the Emperor replied, cryptic in his words. "If this new Emperor wishes to display uncivil character, I cannot return the favor of remaining civil."

"But they are among our close allies."

"They are among those who demonstrate the reason to remain suspicious of all states, friend or foe. We must consider the depth of our establishments in the Scandinvans Empire, and to what extent we should consider continuing them."

"We still possess welling rights to lucrative oil deposits in the North of their country."

The Emperor paused. "We will not consider anything worth more than what it is, but first, we must determine how much it is truly worth. We will send a message to the new Emperor, inquiring of him his impressions on the continuing relations between our two Empires. If we receive something positive, there may yet be worth. If there is nothing positive, there is no hope for this one."

=== To His Sovereign Excellence, the Emperor Olaf V ===

It is with much concern for the safety and well-being of my citizens that I write to you on their behalf. I have received indications that your government is responsible for the recent practices of irrational incivility towards foreigners, and in particular to those who are not ethnically associated to those of your kin. As the Han have recently developed our relations with your venerable Empire, we have begun extended contacts between your and our peoples. For this reason, I must know with absolute certainty that your government is not actively persecuting my people and those of their kin in your sovereign domain. I must know that your government is not responsible for these acts, and I must have assurances that your government appreciates the safety and well-being for all of its denizens, alien or not.

We - of the Han - have long respected other cultures within our lands. We have recognized that to be civil is to greet every person with warm hands, and to welcome every guest in the manner that best reflects the hospitality that you would expect to receive from them. For this reason, we hold similar acts of reciprocity to be - not only civil but - mandatory to establish a firm base of trust and mutual respect. Otherwise, to demonstrate uncivil manners and harsh gestures towards aliens would be to cast away all rules of civilization and to embrace barbaric traditions. I entrust that your father has imparted good wisdom to you and that respect for cultures and societies broad and wide has been imparted to you, for what son is he that discards the ways of his elders and pays no heed to them? A son who disowns his father is in turn disowned by society; and I doubt that His Imperial Majesty - the Emperor Olaf IV - would endow to his own realm an Emperor that is impious.

Please consider the welfare of all your denizens, and provide all of them the security and prosperity as it is with your closest kin. For this is the Way that Heaven embraces, and it is most fitting for those who inherit the Divine Regency. May it be with you as it is with the Heavens.

Emperor Gwangmu
李命福大皇光武帝
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gif
The Beatus
18-10-2007, 03:00
We do not consider it as bribe as more of an attempt to garner support of your group so as to maintain good relations with you. As we did not know that you would see it as a bribe we apologize and retract our offer.

To To Lord Erida,

If you think you can pacify us by simply saying you were trying to bribe us without us thinking we were being bribed, you better think again. This behavior leads me to believe there is something you are trying to hide. We are officially reopening the investigation into this "Genocide Tape". If there is anything to find, we will find it. Thank you and have a nice day.

From the desk of,
Bradly A. Kenning
Archbishop of The Path of the Blessed
The Scandinvans
18-10-2007, 03:24
Telegram to the Scandinavian Empire

*************************
While the Grand Confederacy of Scaveutland does not support mass violations of human rights laws, reviews of the 'crimes' tape have been deemed as a forgery. As such, the Grand Confederacy of Scaveutland will continue to support the Scandinavian Empire in it's attempts to further it's domestic goals.


Signed,

Grand Judge Abramov

Grand Marshall BartendWe thak you for your support and if you wish we are willing to export oil to your nation at a reduced price of thirty eight dollars a barrel. As well, this is not a bribe, but our form of gift we give to nations that help the motives of the Empire.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida
Daehanjeiguk
18-10-2007, 03:31
We thak you for your support and if you wish we are willing to import oil to your nation at a reduced price of thirty eight dollars a barrel. As well, this is not a bribe, but our form of gift we give to nations that help the motives of the Empire.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida

(ooc: because I feel like being a grammar nazi right now, you are willing to export oil. Unless you feel that you don't have enough oil and need more of it...)
The Scandinvans
18-10-2007, 03:51
(ooc: talking about random...)

The Emperor received the message from the ailing Olaf, and it seemed evident in the choice of his words that his time was past; the only thing waiting was Death. Still, he was pleased to hear that at least partially his family was safe. But there was no reason to believe that the situation would get better any sooner.

"We must consider this in due," the Ministers said.

"We will not consider anything worth more than what it is," the Emperor replied, cryptic in his words. "If this new Emperor wishes to display uncivil character, I cannot return the favor of remaining civil."

"But they are among our close allies."

"They are among those who demonstrate the reason to remain suspicious of all states, friend or foe. We must consider the depth of our establishments in the Scandinvans Empire, and to what extent we should consider continuing them."

"We still possess welling rights to lucrative oil deposits in the North of their country."

The Emperor paused. "We will not consider anything worth more than what it is, but first, we must determine how much it is truly worth. We will send a message to the new Emperor, inquiring of him his impressions on the continuing relations between our two Empires. If we receive something positive, there may yet be worth. If there is nothing positive, there is no hope for this one."

=== To His Sovereign Excellence, the Emperor Olaf V ===

It is with much concern for the safety and well-being of my citizens that I write to you on their behalf. I have received indications that your government is responsible for the recent practices of irrational incivility towards foreigners, and in particular to those who are not ethnically associated to those of your kin. As the Han have recently developed our relations with your venerable Empire, we have begun extended contacts between your and our peoples. For this reason, I must know with absolute certainty that your government is not actively persecuting my people and those of their kin in your sovereign domain. I must know that your government is not responsible for these acts, and I must have assurances that your government appreciates the safety and well-being for all of its denizens, alien or not.

We - of the Han - have long respected other cultures within our lands. We have recognized that to be civil is to greet every person with warm hands, and to welcome every guest in the manner that best reflects the hospitality that you would expect to receive from them. For this reason, we hold similar acts of reciprocity to be - not only civil but - mandatory to establish a firm base of trust and mutual respect. Otherwise, to demonstrate uncivil manners and harsh gestures towards aliens would be to cast away all rules of civilization and to embrace barbaric traditions. I entrust that your father has imparted good wisdom to you and that respect for cultures and societies broad and wide has been imparted to you, for what son is he that discards the ways of his elders and pays no heed to them? A son who disowns his father is in turn disowned by society; and I doubt that His Imperial Majesty - the Emperor Olaf IV - would endow to his own realm an Emperor that is impious.

Please consider the welfare of all your denizens, and provide all of them the security and prosperity as it is with your closest kin. For this is the Way that Heaven embraces, and it is most fitting for those who inherit the Divine Regency. May it be with you as it is with the Heavens.

Emperor Gwangmu
李命福大皇光武帝
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gifThe will of the God is imparted upon me.

My blade shines with the blood of the enemies of the Empire.

Those how would destroy my people will now lie low before me.

The enemies of my race shall flee at the sight of my crimson banner.

Blood shall flow from the viens of those who are not true bloods.

The blood of mongrels shall stain the Earth, till the Earth is red as far as the eye can see.

All those who are not born to true persons shall know fear once they see my people's strength.

The truth of our blood shall spread to the far corners of the Earth and shall echo through time till this world ends.

Verse,
Emperor Olaf V,
Book of the Honor of True Blood

OOC: Essentially this is my nation's answer designed to rather mixed and sound quite creepy.
The Scandinvans
18-10-2007, 23:00
To To Lord Erida,

If you think you can pacify us by simply saying you were trying to bribe us without us thinking we were being bribed, you better think again. This behavior leads me to believe there is something you are trying to hide. We are officially reopening the investigation into this "Genocide Tape". If there is anything to find, we will find it. Thank you and have a nice day.

From the desk of,
Bradly A. Kenning
Archbishop of The Path of the BlessedWe wish to state that you fail to recognize the cutlure of our people and have reacted in an overzealous way. As well, we see any alteration in your opinion to be a deliberate change in opinion in regrets to your own biased which has come to exist.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida
The Beatus
18-10-2007, 23:09
The Blessed Wire Service

This just in, that so called "Genocide Tape" is now being said to be completely true, apparently they spotted something in the sky in one of the shots that verifies both time and place. This is just such a shock. The Archbishop has mandated that anyone from Scandinvan Empire, is now an enemy of the state and shall now be treated as so. Due to our armed forces all ready being over stretched he is also offering incentives for joining the military, the first of which is...
The Scandinvans
18-10-2007, 23:21
The Blessed Wire Service

This just in, that so called "Genocide Tape" is now being said to be completely true, apparently they spotted something in the sky in one of the shots that verifies both time and place. This is just such a shock. The Archbishop has mandated that anyone from Scandinvan Empire, is now an enemy of the state and shall now be treated as so. Due to our armed forces all ready being over stretched he is also offering incentives for joining the military, the first of which is...THe Scandinvan Empire laughs at your tiny nation's pitful actions as we see you as no threat to our nation and warns that if any military actios, or Scandinvans ships seized by your nation, a state of war shall exist and we shall simply conquer your nation if you do not reconsider your actions. As well, we wish to state that many of the images are falsefied iin that they have been digatlly doctored and that some of the other images are from a time when there was a rebellion in the western provinces a couple years ago in which the Scandinvan Empire was forced to gather starving civilians, of all races, into protect camps in order to prevent them from being killed by rebels whom had taken all their supplies and might we add that the camps had a rate of only a three precent death rate, even with the terrible condition most of the civilans where in when they were brought in.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida
Daehanjeiguk
19-10-2007, 02:32
The will of the God is imparted upon me.

My blade shines with the blood of the enemies of the Empire.

Those how would destroy my people will now lie low before me.

The enemies of my race shall flee at the sight of my crimson banner.

Blood shall flow from the viens of those who are not true bloods.

The blood of mongrels shall stain the Earth, till the Earth is red as far as the eye can see.

All those who are not born to true persons shall know fear once they see my people's strength.

The truth of our blood shall spread to the far corners of the Earth and shall echo through time till this world ends.

Verse,
Emperor Olaf V,
Book of the Honor of True Blood

OOC: Essentially this is my nation's answer designed to rather mixed and sound quite creepy.

(ooc: creepy works...)

The Emperor received the cryptic reply and sent a blunt response immediately:

"Be that as it may, I would hope that you do not make the mistake of considering the Han as enemies."


Having sent that reply, the Emperor called for a private letter, and began to write furiously by his own strength:

=== To His Majesty, the Emperor Olaf IV ===

I do not expect you to reply to this message, and indeed for your sake, I would ask that you do not. But I wish for you to know the fate of your land should your son make grievous errors of judgment on his sort.

I am preparing for the worst, and indeed, it may have already passed the worst; but given the current state of authority in the Scandinvans Empire, I cannot expect that our two nations will remain amiable for much longer. I had hoped that Yeonghwa's visit would make things settle for the better, but it seems that even one man can tip the balance against our favor.

Understand that I do not wish any ill harm to your people - rather to the corruption and barbaric qualities exhibited in your son. I cannot blame anyone but him and those who consider his ways the Way to prosperity. I cannot blame you, for you have risen a fine child in the Prince Karl. I cannot blame your people, for they too have demonstrated some capacity to be careful and studious partners for peace. It is evident that somewhere in his line, the present pretender seeks to aggrandize his purpose needlessly by diminishing the nature and characteristics of those alien to his kin.

If we had not already managed our close relations, I would not be so concerned. But I have acquired a fond trust of you - Emperor. And I have a fond trust in your people; they truly deserve a better leader than what he has forced upon them. For this reason, if things do not turn for the better, I am prepared for pre-emptive action to end the suffering endured by your people and to rectify the errors of the pretender King.

I write this to tell you these, not to insult your name or to insult your people, but to warn you of the times to come, should the worst come of it. Know in confidence that I would eagerly stay my hands and keep the bond of friendship nearer than the blade, if only your son had more heart. But since it is not this way, we must be prepared to make things this way. Know these things - Emperor: if any of my people are killed in persecution, I will come to their defense; if your people cry out in misery and despair, I will come to their defense; if the Prince and his wife are injured, I will come to their defense; if you are slain, I will come to your defense.

It is perhaps misfortune that I should tell you these things, but you - who has lost their ears - can perhaps know that things can be made right. You still hold his blood; perhaps you can talk sense to him once more and restore our friendship. I say these things only because I am certain that otherwise we shall take this fight to the field, and there many more will die to guard against the loss of even more.

If this worst is to come, please send my regards to the Regent Prince Karl, and to his lovely wife. I pray to the Heavens that some salvation will come to us; and may the Heavens guard you against all villainy.

Emperor Gwangmu
李命福大皇光武帝
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gif



Having written those letters, he sent word to the Defense Ministry - "Prepare the Army, and be on guard against any attack. If the situation turns ill, we must be prepared for war."
The Scandinvans
20-10-2007, 21:22
(ooc: creepy works...)

The Emperor received the cryptic reply and sent a blunt response immediately:

"Be that as it may, I would hope that you do not make the mistake of considering the Han as enemies."


Having sent that reply, the Emperor called for a private letter, and began to write furiously by his own strength:

=== To His Majesty, the Emperor Olaf IV ===

I do not expect you to reply to this message, and indeed for your sake, I would ask that you do not. But I wish for you to know the fate of your land should your son make grievous errors of judgment on his sort.

I am preparing for the worst, and indeed, it may have already passed the worst; but given the current state of authority in the Scandinvans Empire, I cannot expect that our two nations will remain amiable for much longer. I had hoped that Yeonghwa's visit would make things settle for the better, but it seems that even one man can tip the balance against our favor.

Understand that I do not wish any ill harm to your people - rather to the corruption and barbaric qualities exhibited in your son. I cannot blame anyone but him and those who consider his ways the Way to prosperity. I cannot blame you, for you have risen a fine child in the Prince Karl. I cannot blame your people, for they too have demonstrated some capacity to be careful and studious partners for peace. It is evident that somewhere in his line, the present pretender seeks to aggrandize his purpose needlessly by diminishing the nature and characteristics of those alien to his kin.

If we had not already managed our close relations, I would not be so concerned. But I have acquired a fond trust of you - Emperor. And I have a fond trust in your people; they truly deserve a better leader than what he has forced upon them. For this reason, if things do not turn for the better, I am prepared for pre-emptive action to end the suffering endured by your people and to rectify the errors of the pretender King.

I write this to tell you these, not to insult your name or to insult your people, but to warn you of the times to come, should the worst come of it. Know in confidence that I would eagerly stay my hands and keep the bond of friendship nearer than the blade, if only your son had more heart. But since it is not this way, we must be prepared to make things this way. Know these things - Emperor: if any of my people are killed in persecution, I will come to their defense; if your people cry out in misery and despair, I will come to their defense; if the Prince and his wife are injured, I will come to their defense; if you are slain, I will come to your defense.

It is perhaps misfortune that I should tell you these things, but you - who has lost their ears - can perhaps know that things can be made right. You still hold his blood; perhaps you can talk sense to him once more and restore our friendship. I say these things only because I am certain that otherwise we shall take this fight to the field, and there many more will die to guard against the loss of even more.

If this worst is to come, please send my regards to the Regent Prince Karl, and to his lovely wife. I pray to the Heavens that some salvation will come to us; and may the Heavens guard you against all villainy.

Emperor Gwangmu
李命福大皇光武帝
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gif



Having written those letters, he sent word to the Defense Ministry - "Prepare the Army, and be on guard against any attack. If the situation turns ill, we must be prepared for war."The Emperor Olaf V, being a made though intelligent man, carefully anaylzed the situation and decided that it was not the right time to declare his intentions to the international community and not to go to war against the Han, but rather to wait and see if they attack which would then give him a good enough reason to go to war against them.

The former Emperor, Olaf IV, reading the letter knew that any lengthy response or apporiate communication would be impossible at this current point simply wrote a small letter.

--Imperial Letter--

I sadly cannot write for long due to my worsening condition and due to the censors of my son. Therefore I will simply write that I will attempt to reason with him, but I believe I cannot do anymore then that as if I start a coup to remove him from power hundreds of millions of my people will die, and if I do not do not do anything no more then a hundred million will. Yet, either course shall be destructive to my people and leaves me in tears over what I should do.

Signed,
Emperor Olaf IV
Daehanjeiguk
22-10-2007, 01:30
Things were dire - but the level of necessity to intervene was low. The reports continued to flow from the Empire, concerning the nature of the intensity of the persecution, but no actual news came about from Han citizens. Perhaps the Scandinvans people were being selective in their persecution? Or perhaps they were being too careful about it. The fact was that no news had come from Han oil operations in the northern reaches of the country since the crackdown began, and the Emperor had decided in the time to avoid sending more people to the region. But now, the place was quiet.

He turned to his one ally with this sort of expertise.

"Duke Weon - I have a dilemma of interests."

"Speak your needs, Emperor."

"we need to tread softly about this business from the Scandinvans Empire, but we also need to know what's going on precisely behind the closed doors. I do not want to be caught surprised."

"What sort of information would you need?"

"Are Han citizens being persecuted, and if so, to what extent?"

"I can easily tell you the answer. Or at least how we could receive the answer."

"How?"

"We could send a team to visit our people. I do believe that we have an embassy in their capital. Have the ambassador leave his place to survey the country and determine the nature of persecution occurring in the country. Have him deliver politically inspiring messages to our people, urging them to be courteous visitors in the country, to impart guilt to the Scandinvans government. It is a very low cost exercise, and I think that we can gather information much more efficiently than by inserting Hwarang agents."

"Very well. I want it done."

"It is as you wish."

=== Message from the Imperial Embassy in Scandinvans ===

His Imperial Majesty wishes to inquire with the Scandinvans Government, concerning the nature of a planned visit by His Imperial Majesty's emissary in your lands - Prince Yi Eonjeok - to witness the nature and condition of His Imperial Majesty's citizens inhabiting your land. A itinerary of his planned visit includes a visit to the Arctic Oil Fields, where Han citizens have been working to extract petroleum, as per previous agreements. There, he wishes to broadcast a message to His Imperial Majesty's citizens that the people of the Empire should not be dismayed at the reports being offered by foreign media, concerning the nature and intensity of persecution in your lands. In this manner, we hope to allay any of the fears of increased tensions between the Empire and the Scandinvans Realm, and to comfort our people in this land of any fears that they may have.

From the Office of the Imperial Ambassador:
Prince Yi Eonjeok
李彦迪君
이언적군

016 Embassy Avenue
The Scandinvans
23-10-2007, 03:35
Things were dire - but the level of necessity to intervene was low. The reports continued to flow from the Empire, concerning the nature of the intensity of the persecution, but no actual news came about from Han citizens. Perhaps the Scandinvans people were being selective in their persecution? Or perhaps they were being too careful about it. The fact was that no news had come from Han oil operations in the northern reaches of the country since the crackdown began, and the Emperor had decided in the time to avoid sending more people to the region. But now, the place was quiet.

He turned to his one ally with this sort of expertise.

"Duke Weon - I have a dilemma of interests."

"Speak your needs, Emperor."

"we need to tread softly about this business from the Scandinvans Empire, but we also need to know what's going on precisely behind the closed doors. I do not want to be caught surprised."

"What sort of information would you need?"

"Are Han citizens being persecuted, and if so, to what extent?"

"I can easily tell you the answer. Or at least how we could receive the answer."

"How?"

"We could send a team to visit our people. I do believe that we have an embassy in their capital. Have the ambassador leave his place to survey the country and determine the nature of persecution occurring in the country. Have him deliver politically inspiring messages to our people, urging them to be courteous visitors in the country, to impart guilt to the Scandinvans government. It is a very low cost exercise, and I think that we can gather information much more efficiently than by inserting Hwarang agents."

"Very well. I want it done."

"It is as you wish."

=== Message from the Imperial Embassy in Scandinvans ===

His Imperial Majesty wishes to inquire with the Scandinvans Government, concerning the nature of a planned visit by His Imperial Majesty's emissary in your lands - Prince Yi Eonjeok - to witness the nature and condition of His Imperial Majesty's citizens inhabiting your land. A itinerary of his planned visit includes a visit to the Arctic Oil Fields, where Han citizens have been working to extract petroleum, as per previous agreements. There, he wishes to broadcast a message to His Imperial Majesty's citizens that the people of the Empire should not be dismayed at the reports being offered by foreign media, concerning the nature and intensity of persecution in your lands. In this manner, we hope to allay any of the fears of increased tensions between the Empire and the Scandinvans Realm, and to comfort our people in this land of any fears that they may have.

From the Office of the Imperial Ambassador:
Prince Yi Eonjeok
李彦迪君
이언적군

016 Embassy AvenueImperial Legal Response:

Citing international, and Scandinvan law as well, we forced to say that your Prince Eonjeok currently may not leave the capital of the Scandinvan Empire due to the recent laws placed upon foreigners in the Empire. Further, citing by occupying the embassy you agreed to follow the laws on the land once you left the embassy and to respect Scandinvan law. Added we gurantee you that your people, as being granted the right to be inside the Empire, have nothing to fear from us as we bound by tradition to honor the treaties made int he past for at last five more years after the ascension of a new Emperorr. One note though due to increased ethnic tension in the Empire we have been forced to bar any foreign persons of minority descent from moving freely across the Empire for their own protection.

It is for these reasons we request that you stay in the embassy area of Valdra for your own safety where Scandinvan soldiers may properly protect you from any threats possibly created by own nation's citizens.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida
The Scandinvans
24-10-2007, 01:10
Imperial News Network:

"The Imperial Army has posted a decree which now officially gives all non-True Bloods four weeks to leave the Empire, though they may leave their properties up for sale with the government or with private real estate brokers, for their own safety due to the recent deaths of many people of false bloods. As well, there have begun the construction of the a number of walled off communities for any people of non-White descent who remain within the Empire after the end of the decree has occurred.

As well, the people who posted a recently controversial video displaying the government will soon face trail for acts of utter sedition, attempts to violently bring down the government, planning to incite violence within the Scandinvan Empire, and conspiracy to commit treason. Though the latter of all charges has been dismissed by a judge due to the content of the video no involving the person with any particular nation, which by Imperial law, requires them to be charged simply with dishonorable conduct which is a far lesser crime in the eyes of the law. Despite the lowering of the status of the crimes the people involved still face at least ten years in prison.

Lard Erida out.”
The Scandinvans
26-10-2007, 02:16
Imperial Decree:

By order of His Imperial Majesty V, the House of Lords, and the Parliment of Scandinvan Empire

All non pure bloods that have not left the Empire are hereby subject to arrest within seventy two hours of this post and shall be brought into custody and shall face punishment, as laid out in recently passed Imperial laws, at the hands of the Imperial police forces. As well, the Scandinvan military hereby orders all remaining non Whites to register with the governement so that we might know what countries they are planning on heading to. If this not meant then they shall be denied the privelage to leave until they complete all the proper paperwork.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida
The Scandinvans
26-10-2007, 03:36
OOC: List of people arrested and killed updated.
The Scandinvans
02-11-2007, 02:56
bump
Daehanjeiguk
04-11-2007, 17:48
The Emperor looked at the information, and seeing just exactly what kind of mess it was stirring, he turned to Duke Weon once again. Already the Empire was facing a diplomatic and international crisis with the Mujeongbu on the loose again (link to main thread) - now he had to deal with this. It seemed that now was the season to hate the Han.

"Well, what do we do now?"

"We do not wish to instigate the problem further. But we are not going to cave to their demands. The Scandinvans are apparently preparing for something, and we do not wish to be on the receiving end of this. We will give no instruction to our people to leave the Scandinvans Empires, as it is their choice to leave the country - but we will remind the Scandinvans that so much as one Han citizen killed will be sufficient for retaliation."

"That does not seem to be helping us not instigate the problem further."

"Well, we won't be doing the instigation - they will. But let us hope that the Emperor Olaf V will be sensible not to in fact persecute the people to the point of death. And let us hope that the Mujeongbu don't actually start running around in the country like a bunch of maniacs. They've already caused us enough trouble in Casari and Bostopia; we don't need more crises."

The Emperor nodded in agreement. "Let us hope then."

IMPERIAL DECREE BY HIS SOVEREIGN IMPERIAL MAJESTY

His Imperial Majesty, the Gwangmu Emperor, has declared; with every intention to preserve peace, stability, and the livelihood of those ethnic minorities inhabiting the Scandinvans Empire:

We - of the Celestial Regency of the Great Han Empire - have surveyed the problems plaguing the Scandinvans Empire. We have agreed in conference that the Scandinvans has taken a turn for the worse, by mutually selecting against non-Scandinvans ethnicities. By removing diversity, they have made their civilization less remarkable and otherwise dynamic. They have turned the people who have been their friends into the people who can become their greatest enemies. And by making them their enemies, they have turned the numbers against themselves. But the Han Empire - despite these turns - does not wish to make the Scandinvans Empire an enemy. In these instances, we will only become an enemy if the Scandinvans Empire gives us reason to become enemies.

If the Scandinvans, in their persecution of the ethnic minorities, kills or injures any citizen of the Han Empire, we will become enemies.

If they, in the persecution of the Han, attack His Imperial Majesty's embassy inn any form, we will become enemies.

If they, in the persecution against civilization, make ready the roads to war at our footsteps, we will become enemies.

We have no other reason to become enemies. If the Scandinvans values peace over ethnic hegemony, we can co-exist, and we can work to bring our peoples to mutual agreement over whether such times can be beneficial to us all. By mutual discussion, we are able to overcome barbaric tendencies and avoid the necessities of war. We hope that the Scandinvans, even now, appreciates the value of the Han Empire and values the same of peace.
The Scandinvans
08-11-2007, 01:55
The Emperor looked at the information, and seeing just exactly what kind of mess it was stirring, he turned to Duke Weon once again. Already the Empire was facing a diplomatic and international crisis with the Mujeongbu on the loose again (link to main thread) - now he had to deal with this. It seemed that now was the season to hate the Han.

"Well, what do we do now?"

"We do not wish to instigate the problem further. But we are not going to cave to their demands. The Scandinvans are apparently preparing for something, and we do not wish to be on the receiving end of this. We will give no instruction to our people to leave the Scandinvans Empires, as it is their choice to leave the country - but we will remind the Scandinvans that so much as one Han citizen killed will be sufficient for retaliation."

"That does not seem to be helping us not instigate the problem further."

"Well, we won't be doing the instigation - they will. But let us hope that the Emperor Olaf V will be sensible not to in fact persecute the people to the point of death. And let us hope that the Mujeongbu don't actually start running around in the country like a bunch of maniacs. They've already caused us enough trouble in Casari and Bostopia; we don't need more crises."

The Emperor nodded in agreement. "Let us hope then."

IMPERIAL DECREE BY HIS SOVEREIGN IMPERIAL MAJESTY

His Imperial Majesty, the Gwangmu Emperor, has declared; with every intention to preserve peace, stability, and the livelihood of those ethnic minorities inhabiting the Scandinvans Empire:

We - of the Celestial Regency of the Great Han Empire - have surveyed the problems plaguing the Scandinvans Empire. We have agreed in conference that the Scandinvans has taken a turn for the worse, by mutually selecting against non-Scandinvans ethnicities. By removing diversity, they have made their civilization less remarkable and otherwise dynamic. They have turned the people who have been their friends into the people who can become their greatest enemies. And by making them their enemies, they have turned the numbers against themselves. But the Han Empire - despite these turns - does not wish to make the Scandinvans Empire an enemy. In these instances, we will only become an enemy if the Scandinvans Empire gives us reason to become enemies.

If the Scandinvans, in their persecution of the ethnic minorities, kills or injures any citizen of the Han Empire, we will become enemies.

If they, in the persecution of the Han, attack His Imperial Majesty's embassy inn any form, we will become enemies.

If they, in the persecution against civilization, make ready the roads to war at our footsteps, we will become enemies.

We have no other reason to become enemies. If the Scandinvans values peace over ethnic hegemony, we can co-exist, and we can work to bring our peoples to mutual agreement over whether such times can be beneficial to us all. By mutual discussion, we are able to overcome barbaric tendencies and avoid the necessities of war. We hope that the Scandinvans, even now, appreciates the value of the Han Empire and values the same of peace.Imperial Decree:

In my wisdom, as Emperor of the Scandinvans, I have done what is needed to preserve the ethnic homogeny of the people and I am more then willing to defend my own actions against foreign intervention.

As well, might I state that I am performing the will of my people and will continue to do so till my people's own wishes are fufilled.

I will also state that as Emperor of the Scandinvans I have done much to prevent an outright civil war within my nation's borders be securing the safety of the ethnic minorities in areas where they might be watched and protected by soldiers loyal to me.

Furthermost, I do respect your nation's rights, but neither will I allow your ambassadors to blantly violate my nation's laws. As I might remind you that your own laws apply within your embassy grounds and in there does any law supcede local Scandinvan law. As such I cannot allow your people to break my own decrees and since my own nation does not have diplomatic immunity given to ambassadors and thus they will be arrested if they break my nation's laws.

The safety of your other people though will remain secure till they leave Scandinvan territory.
Daehanjeiguk
11-12-2007, 05:31
(ooc: sorry about a lack of response, but is this still going? or am i beating a dead horse?)
The Scandinvans
11-12-2007, 05:46
(ooc: sorry about a lack of response, but is this still going? or am i beating a dead horse?)OOC: Still on.
Errikland
11-12-2007, 07:44
OOC: Hope this isn't closed.

To: The Scandinvans; Emperor Olaf V and government
From: The Errikan Empire

Greetings, old friends.

We have taken note of your recent reforms, and must ask questions and voice our concerns. Firstly, has your position in regards to us changed? We have long considered you friends of the Empire, but drastic changes in government sometimes result in confusion and unfortunate shifts in opinion, so we wish to be clear.

Next, we wish to voice our opinion on these reforms. It is, of course, none of our concern what your sovereign government does within your sovereign nation, and if you deem ethnic cleansing to be necessary so be it. But, in our own opinion, it may ultimately be effective to follow this course a bit more moderately, using positive eugenics and tax-incentive based negative eugenics (particularly emigration bonuses), rather than your current, more heavy handed manner; true, the latter may be more immediately effective, but at the long term expense of your people's rights (if the government may do this to them now, who is to say it cannot do something similar to others later?), and, most pressingly, the risk of inviting foreign interlopers, who feel it is their duty to interfere with the business of sovereign nations. Even if you may easily fight them off, it will still impede the matters of your people and state, and the costs of running your programs may in fact impair your war-waging abilities.

Know that it is with the greatest of respect that we voice this opinion; the Errikan Empire wishes for strength and stability for all her friends, your people included.

May God be with you.
The Scandinvans
12-12-2007, 00:15
OOC: Hope this isn't closed.

To: The Scandinvans; Emperor Olaf V and government
From: The Errikan Empire

Greetings, old friends.

We have taken note of your recent reforms, and must ask questions and voice our concerns. Firstly, has your position in regards to us changed? We have long considered you friends of the Empire, but drastic changes in government sometimes result in confusion and unfortunate shifts in opinion, so we wish to be clear.

Next, we wish to voice our opinion on these reforms. It is, of course, none of our concern what your sovereign government does within your sovereign nation, and if you deem ethnic cleansing to be necessary so be it. But, in our own opinion, it may ultimately be effective to follow this course a bit more moderately, using positive eugenics and tax-incentive based negative eugenics (particularly emigration bonuses), rather than your current, more heavy handed manner; true, the latter may be more immediately effective, but at the long term expense of your people's rights (if the government may do this to them now, who is to say it cannot do something similar to others later?), and, most pressingly, the risk of inviting foreign interlopers, who feel it is their duty to interfere with the business of sovereign nations. Even if you may easily fight them off, it will still impede the matters of your people and state, and the costs of running your programs may in fact impair your war-waging abilities.

Know that it is with the greatest of respect that we voice this opinion; the Errikan Empire wishes for strength and stability for all her friends, your people included.

May God be with you.We do not bear any ill will towards your people and the in fact our people have long considered your people of racial kin, as well you are considered a relatively pure nation, and due to such things we shall bear no thoughts against your nation and we gladly shall maintain good diplomatic relations with your nation.

Regarding our nation's policies for driving out non-Europeans we simply gain them incentives to leave and willingly offered to buy all of their property they would leave behind, as soon as they wanted, at the full market price for their property. Furthermore, we only cleared the ancient heartland of our Empire as the exterior provinces have been established as autonomous regions within our Empire and have been kept as such.

Again we thank you for your support and extend a hand of friendship to your nation once more.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida
Errikland
12-12-2007, 00:32
We do not bear any ill will towards your people and the in fact our people have long considered your people of racial kin, as well you are considered a relatively pure nation, and due to such things we shall bear no thoughts against your nation and we gladly shall maintain good diplomatic relations with your nation.

Regarding our nation's policies for driving out non-Europeans we simply gain them incentives to leave and willingly offered to buy all of their property they would leave behind, as soon as they wanted, at the full market price for their property. Furthermore, we only cleared the ancient heartland of our Empire as the exterior provinces have been established as autonomous regions within our Empire and have been kept as such.

Again we thank you for your support and extend a hand of friendship to your nation once more.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida

Your continued good will is most appreciated by the Empire.

It would seem that our advise was unwarranted; you are already following the more reasonable and pragmatic path, it would seem, without our word. The rumors we have heard in regard to your programs--akin to those of Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, arresting and killing people en masse without any chance for escape or redemption, must have been just that, rumors, false rumors spread with malice against your people. We apologize for giving them false weight in our hearts.

The friendship you extend to us shall be reciprocated, noble nation.
Daehanjeiguk
26-12-2007, 04:49
The Imperial Army began to set up camps as the political dissidents were being held and had begun a number chart for the key persons that needed to be subdued in the name of the Empire.

Number of People Killed: 5,346,712
Number Arrested: 13,216,410
People Targeted for Arrest: 41,831,821

OOC: Just a numbers post really.

ooc: any chance for an update?
The Scandinvans
26-12-2007, 23:03
ooc: any chance for an update?OOC: Final numbers:

People Dead: 8,433,259
People Relocated to Imperial Ethnic Provinces: 267,871,520
People Deported: 4,634,821
People Who Left the Empire: 18,459,377