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AFDF has order a replacement for outdated AR and a new sidearm. issue to our DF. So we decide to hold a contest to see who can submit good rifle design and new sidearm. We will pick out the best one and place a order for it.

AF - 07 Assault Rifle

Every 10 years, the Alfegos government re-evaluates a weapon design: this year, it is the standard infantry assault rifle. The rifle was designed to replace the AF - 97, which had poor endurance in the field.

This was upgraded by integrating a more effective sealed units for the seperate components, and a unique surfacant to the parts to allow the easy cleaning of parts.

The other problem was its weight. This was reduced by using a classified titanium - aluminium alloy for the construction of the working parts and barrel of the gun. The weight was reduced further by integrating plastic components for the magazine, handgrips and detachable stock.

Finally, it was designed to integrate a detachable laser designator, that could be fitted into the underbarrel grenade/special munitions launcher.

Gun Stats:
Calibre: 5.56mm NATO rounds
Weight: 3.15 kg loaded (with standard 30 - round clip)
Length (Stock Attached): 920mm
Barrel Length: 492 mm
Action: Gas-operated, Rotating volt
Rate of Fire: 700 - 900 rpm, cyclic
Magazine Capacity: 20, 30, 40 (box) 80, 90 (Drum)
Muzzle Velocity: 980 m/s / 935 m/s (using NATO 5.56mm)
Effective range: 570 m / 540 m (NATO)

Grenade Launcher (AMGL 98) Stats:
Calibre: 40 mm AF GLR
Weight: 1390 g
Length: 350 mm
Barrel Length: 280 mm
Action: Single shot, Double Action
Rate of Fire: 5 - 7 rpm
Muzzle Velocity: 80 m/s
Effective Range: 160 m

AFDF has order a replacement for outdated AR and a new sidearm. issue to our DF. So we decide to hold a contest to see who can submit good rifle design and new sidearm. We will pick out the best one and place a order for it. who ever had best design will win over 40 million to build the rifle.

The rifle is already buitl and tested in Alfegos, with very good results.

Crookfur Arms are pleased to present our entries:

For the assault rifle requirement we have 2 offerings, the first is the SX23A1, THE finest assault rfiie in the world* which is notably superior to ANY 5.56 calibre weapon you might care the name. Details of the SX23A1 can be found here: http://z8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/index.php?showtopic=1
The SX23A1 can also be reconfigured into carbine, Light Support Weapon (LSW) and Designated Marksman's Rifle (DMR) versions, details of which are availble on request.

If a caseless design is not to your liking then we would sugges the S1A5 as alternative details of which can be found here: http://z8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/index.php?showtopic=45

For the pistol Croofkur Arms would present the PX3A1 caseless pistol: http://z8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/index.php?showtopic=44

Licensing and bulk purchase schemes can be discussed if required.






*In the eyes of the Crookfur Arms marketing department

[QUOTE=Crookfur;13123730]Crookfur Arms are pleased to present our entries:

For the assault rifle requirement we have 2 offerings, the first is the SX23A1, THE finest assault rfiie in the world* which is notably superior to ANY 5.56 calibre weapon you might care the name. Details of the SX23A1 can be found here: http://z8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/index.php?showtopic=1
The SX23A1 can also be reconfigured into carbine, Light Support Weapon (LSW) and Designated Marksman's Rifle (DMR) versions, details of which are availble on request.

If a caseless design is not to your liking then we would sugges the S1A5 as alternative details of which can be found here: http://z8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/index.php?showtopic=45

For the pistol Croofkur Arms would present the PX3A1 caseless pistol: http://z8.invisionfree.com/Crookfur_Arms/index.php?showtopic=44

Licensing and bulk purchase schemes can be discussed if required.





*In the eyes of the Crookfur Arms marketing department[wat/QUOTE]

wat kind of ammo does the px3a1 uses

AFDF has order a replacement for outdated AR and a new sidearm. issue to our DF. So we decide to hold a contest to see who can submit good rifle design and new sidearm. We will pick out the best one and place a order for it.

wat kind of ammo Can the PX3A1 can be use with got tons of the old 45 round in warehouses . no ideal wat to do the ammo. and some 9mm rounds to i think its a nightmare got lot of ammo that goes to diff pistol.

wat kind of ammo Can the PX3A1 can be use with got tons of the old 45 round in warehouses . no ideal wat to do the ammo. and some 9mm rounds to i think its a nightmare got lot of ammo that goes to diff pistol.

Dear Sirs,

In response to you question the PX3A1 uses the Crookfur designed 9x24mm caseless ammuntion. For a pistol designed to fire .45 ACP ammuntion we would recommend the EP4B3 (Crookfur designation for the HK USP tactical .45) availble for approximatly $650 per unit and for 9x19mm ammuntion the EP4D2 (again a USP tactical but in 9x19mm) for the same price.

OOC: normally I would say just choose what ever RL pistol you like if you want to use RL ammo, NS designed psitols are generally only worth it if you are willign to adopt the new ammo that goes with them. I offer Crookfur produced versions of the USP tactical series an option if you would rather buy psitol instead of producing your own, as it is generally assuemd that msot antions are more or less capable of producing what ever Rl equipment takes thier fancy.

Dear Sirs,

In response to you question the PX3A1 uses the Crookfur designed 9x24mm caseless ammuntion. For a pistol designed to fire .45 ACP ammuntion we would recommend the EP4B3 (Crookfur designation for the HK USP tactical .45) availble for approximatly $650 per unit and for 9x19mm ammuntion the EP4D2 (again a USP tactical but in 9x19mm) for the same price.

OOC: normally I would say just choose what ever RL pistol you like if you want to use RL ammo, NS designed psitols are generally only worth it if you are willign to adopt the new ammo that goes with them. I offer Crookfur produced versions of the USP tactical series an option if you would rather buy psitol instead of producing your own, as it is generally assuemd that msot antions are more or less capable of producing what ever Rl equipment takes thier fancy.


i like to buy EP4B3 pistol and the EP4 D2

i take the PX3A1 pistol

The HA-32

This Assault Rifle has a removable stock for one handed fire as well as attachable scope and laser sight. This weapon is extremmly durable.

The HA-32

This Assault Rifle has a removable stock for one handed fire as well as attachable scope and laser sight. This weapon is extremmly durable.

Stats
Name HA-32
Ammo Type .45
Clip Size 50 Bullets
Additional Equipment: REmovable Stock, REmovable Scope, Laser sight(can go on and off),Can be dissasembled and put in a a case, and also has a opinal grenade launcher attachment, optinal bipod.
Length 2 Feet
Very Light

nice one

Pale Rider Arms would like to offer it's M26 series of Battle Rifles for your perusal.

M26A1 Infantry Combat Rifle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/blaesa/PRA%20junk/M26A1.jpg

Length: 685mm
Mass: 4.7 kilograms
Mass (Loaded): 5.4 kilograms
Cartridge: 6.5x40mm Caseless
Magazine: 50 rounds
Barrel Length: 540mm
Muzzle Velocity: 910 m/s
Muzzle Energy: 3323 joules
Rate of Fire: 800 RPM (2200 RPM burst)
Modes of Fire: Single, 3 round Burst, Full Auto
UGL Cartridge: 35x90mm
UGL Barrel Length: 310mm
Sight: Integrated SmartGun System

Cost: 1800 USD

Replacing the volatile M25 HVAR as the standard combat rifle of the Otagian Regular Army, the M26A1 combat rifle is a powerful and advanced weapon, well suited to the ORA's demanding requirements.

The action of the M26A1 is based largely on the Heckler and Koch G11, with the recoil of each shot rotating the chamber 90 degrees to load a new round before snapping back into place. In the case of a dud round, the operator merely cycles the action, which loads a new round and ejects the old through an emergency port in the bottom of the rifle. In addition, the M26A also borrows the G11's moving barrel, chamber and magazine, allowing extremely high rates of fire, with all three rounds leaving the gun before the assembly hits the operator's shoulder. Thus, recoil has no chance to effect the user's accuracy, greatly increasing the lethality of a decent marksman by letting the entire burst impact in the same location.

The M26A1 uses the latest version of PRA's SmartGun system, which feeds targetting information garnered from an integrated laser range finder to a set of glasses (also available in nightvision or IR goggles) worn by the user, via a short range wireless transmission (roughly two meters maximum effective range). The glasses then project a crosshairs, distance to target, and ammunition remaining onto the operator's field of view. The system runs off of a small lithium-ion battery cell, and engages only when pressure is applied to the trigger in order to conserve energy. The M26A1 also features GrenadeLink software, which predicts the flight path of rounds fired from the integral UGL, and displays the arc on the operator's field of view.

M26A2 Designated Marksman Rifle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/blaesa/PRA%20junk/M26A2.jpg

Length: 788mm
Mass: 3.75 kilograms
Mass (Loaded): 4.4 kilograms
Cartridge: 6.5x40mm Caseless
Magazine: 50 rounds
Barrel Length: 643mm
Muzzle Velocity: 940 m/s
Muzzle Energy: 3545 joules
Rate of Fire: 800 RPM (2200 RPM burst)
Modes of Fire: Single, 3 round Burst, Full Auto
Sight: Integrated SmartGun System, x4 optical scope
Other: Folding bipod

Cost: 1500 USD

The M26A2 is simply a modified version of the M26A1, intended for use as a designated marksman's weapon. The underbarrel grenade launcher is replaced by a bipod, while a powerful optical sight is added, as well as a longer barrel for increased accuracy.

M26 Security Rifle

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/blaesa/PRA%20junk/ares-hvar.jpg

Length: 611.25mm
Barrel Length: 543.75mm
Mass: 4.6 kilograms
Cartridge: 6.5x40mm caseless
Ammunition: 30 box magazine (optional extended magazines in 40 or 50 rounds)
Muzzle Velocity: 910 m/s
Muzzle Energy: 3105.375 joules
Rate of Fire: 800 RPM cyclic (2200 RPM burst fire)
Modes of Fire: Safe, Semi-Automatic, 3 Round Burst, Full Auto
Aiming: Iron sights, integral smartgun system
Cost: 1400 USD

After several well publicised incidents involving the M25 HVAR exploding when fired (which PRA maintains will never occur with a properly maintained rifle), the Otagian military requested several new rifle designs from PRA using a less volatile round than the M25, including a new rifle for corporate security forces. The M26 is that rifle.

Using a 6.5x40mm caseless cartridge, the M26 compensates for the lower killing power of the 6.5mm round with improved rate of fire, sending up to 2200 rounds down range per minute. Pale Rider Arms neglected to include the integral grenade launcher common to all its previous designs, citing decreased utility in it's intended use by security personnel. A recessed mounting rail does, however, allow for after-market launchers to be attached.

Not going to post up stat blocks, as that would be redundant from my storefront...

CM-38.
A belt or box mag fed assault weapon that fires a powerful 6.5 x 55 mm cartridge.

Not a bad sniper weapon either, since the 6.5 it shoots is pretty flat and you can swap in an extra long barrel and cartridges that use slower burning/high efficency powders.

Strengthened specifically to handle the HM-320 underbarrel weapons system.
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HM-320.
An accessory that has a 40 mm bore, can fire oversize projectiles, but kicks like a mule when it does. Normally used to fire regular 40 mm, can handle high velocity grenades. Smoothbore.
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HAP series PDW/SMG/Pistol.
A pretty darn useful gun, can be expanded to be used as a skelotonized assault rifle (not meant to take stresses of firing HM-320), better suited for people who can't stuff an AR down their pants.

I suppose now you want links, that or became dissinterested as soon as I said I won't give stats in this post.

Dangit! Pale Rider Arms... eventually I'll make a sales pitch to the newbies before you get to spoil them with your ways!

Storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=476754)
(Pretty quick to find the weapons there)

HM-320 concept (http://www.angelfire.com/art/enchanter/Grenade_Launchers.html#3bt) -Note I developed the design before finding this-
HM-320 User's Manual (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10796159&postcount=15)
HAP 655 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10754675&postcount=10)

I may even pitch the SHAW at you.
(Think belt fed full auto assault shotgun/grenade launcher/MG in one barrel)

Pale Rider Arms would like to offer it's M26 series of Battle Rifles for your perusal.

humm can u camber it to a 7.65mm round

Tpe 56 Ak Assault Rifle
Used by People's Republic of China, Sri Lanka[1], Republic of Croatia
Wars Vietnam War, Sri Lankan civil war, Soviet war in Afghanistan, Croatian War of Independence
Production history
Designed Unknown
Produced 1956 to present
Number built Millions
Variants Type 56 Assault Rifle, Type 56-1 Assault Rifle, Type 56-2 Assault Rifle, QBZ-56C Assault Rifle, Type 56-1S
Specifications
Weight 3.8 kg
Length 874 mm (34.4 in)
Barrel length 414 mm (16.3 in)

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Cartridge 7.62×39mm Soviet M1943
Caliber 7.62 mm
Action Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Rate of fire ~ 600 round/min
Muzzle velocity 735 m/s (2,411 ft/s)
Effective range 400 m
Feed system 30 round standard
Sights Adjustable iron sights

56 Assault Rifles are so PIMP!!!

oh really now.

Choose the type 56 rifle!!! Our country uses it for recon and other stealthy missions.
We use the M-16 and theAK-47 for main battles.
Type 56 rifles almost never jam!!!

oh really think about ordered theam for the recon forces

humm can u camber it to a 7.65mm round

The M26 is designed for a caseless round, so lacks an ejection port, barring a manual port on the underside of the weapon. The feed system is also poorly suited to a circular cartridge, as opposed to the standard square caseless round. However, with sufficient motivation, we can most likely refit the weapon to fire standard cased rounds.

OOC: READ: Sure, but it'll cost ya more. It'll hold considerably less ammunition, weigh a good chunk more, and be a bit less reliable (I'm not precisely sure how well a G11 style action/feed will handle brass, and for all I know, it won't). PRA weapons are pretty much built from the ground up around a caseless round, so changing that will cause a few issues.

Bynamar: Isn't the Type 56 just a Chinese AK-47 monkey model? And why in God's name would you mix Western and Soviet Bloc equipment at such a basic level? Would be hell on logistics...

i have all kinds of ammo laying around in our warehouse 5.56mm to 7.65mm i have mix Western and Soviet Bloc equipment the DF handley the logistics

SaintB has four entrants to the competition. The Ares III Assault Rifle, Ares K7 Assault Carbine, the Argonaut .357, and the KSB- AP 1 which has no other current designation.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/SaintB/ares.jpg

Th Ares III Assault Rifle is the current standard weapon of SaintB's infantry and is used in several other nations. It is typically chambered for 5.56 x 855 NATO Ammunition but is also capable of using 6.5 x 45 Fangible. Its new molded fiberglass, aluminum, and carbon fiber construction makes it extremely lightweight and still durable. The Ares III is compatible with all standard accessories and features even greater range, cyclic rate, and muzzle velocity to give it a place on the 21st century battlefield. A new gas emissions system allows for superior recoil adjustment in burst and full auto modes so that the soldier is not forced to compensate further for the weapons light weight. The Ares III is capable of underwater fire and does not easily jam or misfire even in extreme conditions. A few new upgrades have been added in recent times to increase utiltity including a removable accesssory rack (So that another rack may be put in its place to mount another company's equipment, bayonet compatibility, and an optional squeeze safety on the pistol grip. The below statistics are for the 5.56 version.

Action: Gas Operated w/ rotating bolt
Overall Length: 985 mm
Barrel Length: 513 mm
Weight Empty/ Loaded/ Drum: 2.8 kg/ 3.6 kg/ 5.8 kg
Magazine: 40 double round clip or 120 round barrel +1 in chamber
Cyclic Rate: 725 rounds per minute
Muzzle Velocity: 980 m/s
Maximum Effective Range: 555 m
Price: $950 per unit
Production Rights: $950 Million

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The Ares K7 is an assault carbine modeled after the Ares III, it is highly adaptable and comes with multiple attachments including a 15 mm sniper mode.

Click Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533842&highlight=saintb) for more on the K7 series.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/SaintB/argonaut.jpg

Argonaut .357
Developed by SaintB's previous regime while attempting to harness the power of the .357 revolver in a semi-automatic weapon. Though on the heavy side the Argonaut packs a strong punch especially at close range that is rarely seen in a handgun. The weapon is dual action and semi automatic but rapid shots in succession higher than two tend to be extremely inaccurate at medium and higher ranges. It is however still the standard sidearm of SaintB's officers.

Caliber: .357
Action: Dual action, semi automatic
Overall Length: 120 mm
Weight Empty/Loaded: 1kg/1.3kg
Magazine: 10 round clip +1 in chamber
Muzzle Velocity: 375 m/s
Maximum Effective Range: 53 meters
Price: $350 per unit
Production Rights: $350 Million

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/SaintB/ap1.jpg

The AP 1 is the new standard sidearm of Alfegos, it is a 9 mm heavy pistol capable of automatic fire when necesary.

KSB AP-1
Length: 230 mm
Barrel: 142 mm
Magazine: 15 round clip + 1 in chamber
Round: 9x19 mm Luger Parabellum, 9x21 Isreali Military Industries
Wieght: 1.77 kg
Rate of Fire: 155 r/m
Velocity: ~395 m/s*
Energy: ~531 joules*

*These stats are provided by data gained firing a 9x19 Luger Parabellum round of 115 grain variety.

SaintB has four entrants to the competition. The Ares III Assault Rifle, Ares K7 Assault Carbine, the Argonaut .357, and the KSB- AP 1 which has no other current designation.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/SaintB/ares.jpg

Th Ares III Assault Rifle is the current standard weapon of SaintB's infantry and is used in several other nations. It is typically chambered for 5.56 x 855 NATO Ammunition but is also capable of using 6.5 x 45 Fangible. Its new molded fiberglass, aluminum, and carbon fiber construction makes it extremely lightweight and still durable. The Ares III is compatible with all standard accessories and features even greater range, cyclic rate, and muzzle velocity to give it a place on the 21st century battlefield. A new gas emissions system allows for superior recoil adjustment in burst and full auto modes so that the soldier is not forced to compensate further for the weapons light weight. The Ares III is capable of underwater fire and does not easily jam or misfire even in extreme conditions. A few new upgrades have been added in recent times to increase utiltity including a removable accesssory rack (So that another rack may be put in its place to mount another company's equipment, bayonet compatibility, and an optional squeeze safety on the pistol grip. The below statistics are for the 5.56 version.

Action: Gas Operated w/ rotating bolt
Overall Length: 985 mm
Barrel Length: 513 mm
Weight Empty/ Loaded/ Drum: 2.8 kg/ 3.6 kg/ 5.8 kg
Magazine: 40 double round clip or 120 round barrel +1 in chamber
Cyclic Rate: 725 rounds per minute
Muzzle Velocity: 980 m/s
Maximum Effective Range: 555 m
Price: $950 per unit
Production Rights: $950 Million

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The Ares K7 is an assault carbine modeled after the Ares III, it is highly adaptable and comes with multiple attachments including a 15 mm sniper mode.

Click Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533842&highlight=saintb) for more on the K7 series.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/SaintB/argonaut.jpg

Argonaut .357
Developed by SaintB's previous regime while attempting to harness the power of the .357 revolver in a semi-automatic weapon. Though on the heavy side the Argonaut packs a strong punch especially at close range that is rarely seen in a handgun. The weapon is dual action and semi automatic but rapid shots in succession higher than two tend to be extremely inaccurate at medium and higher ranges. It is however still the standard sidearm of SaintB's officers.

Caliber: .357
Action: Dual action, semi automatic
Overall Length: 120 mm
Weight Empty/Loaded: 1kg/1.3kg
Magazine: 10 round clip +1 in chamber
Muzzle Velocity: 375 m/s
Maximum Effective Range: 53 meters
Price: $350 per unit
Production Rights: $350 Million

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/SaintB/ap1.jpg

The AP 1 is the new standard sidearm of Alfegos, it is a 9 mm heavy pistol capable of automatic fire when necesary.

KSB AP-1
Length: 230 mm
Barrel: 142 mm
Magazine: 15 round clip + 1 in chamber
Round: 9x19 mm Luger Parabellum, 9x21 Isreali Military Industries
Wieght: 1.77 kg
Rate of Fire: 155 r/m
Velocity: ~395 m/s*
Energy: ~531 joules*

*These stats are provided by data gained firing a 9x19 Luger Parabellum round of 115 grain variety.

sounds like a good rife

a couple of days intill the end of the contest