Capitalist-Communist WAR
Albalast
10-10-2007, 04:57
There comes a time when evil should be forsaken and malevolence destroyed. Communism is the ultimate form of evil, it consumes nations and turns them into nothing more than economically inferior liberal nations that are never even close to freeing themselves from the chaos of anarchy. We should initiate an all out war against communist and socialist nations with there small fragile economy and shitty military they will be a pushover WHOS WITH ME?:sniper::mp5::upyours:
So far on the Capitalist side: Entire Trade Union:
The Commonwealth of Jacosta The Federation of Albalast The Republic of Blahlahland The Grand Duchy of Therasopoliss The Republic of Aniane
Entire Corporate Alliance: Griffincrest Corporation, Blackhelm Confederacy Toopoxican Organisation, Toopoxia No Taxes Beiraq Spartanox Royal Code Aspen Investment Group, Siap The Kraven Corporation Sochatopian Manufacturing Corporation, Sochatopia Helexeo Zachyd ArmsDiscounters Inc., Bonstock RFF Deserted Territories The Rastoran Syndicate 31337 Soup Maldorians Republic of the Red Isles (Leafanistan) Achmara Blainesville Rulan Industries Ltd., Ansuria The Illyanic Commonwealth 8th Street Kings, Portland Osteia Snix is Truth United Ed States Emperor Nero Skgorria Atopiana United Somalia The Shin Ra Corporation Foxton-Sunbury Taleloron Kasara Soiyoden Iragia Honako The Horned Rat Soulforge Cathedral Buddha C Calizorinstan Deurem Mixoldian New Manth Greal Look Incorporated Urcea Kappelia Neucom Inc.
Entire Pacific Islands Defence Force: The Republic of Munruben The Allied States of Riowood The Community of Caring State The Armed Republic of Fell Lane The Confederacy of Riopo The Dictatorship of Independent Military
Other None Aligned Nations: Scott Tree UnitedStatesOfAmerica (Financial Support Only) Bynamar
So far on the Communists side: Ryou
Whos gonna win?
Beddgelert
10-10-2007, 05:06
Later that day, six Geletian children, on break from their daily communal education, resolved to club together and, with their proceeds of their pocket-money jobs, purchase the tiny and relatively poor Federation of Albalast and turn it into a... oh, no, they've decided to go and play cricket, instead. A lucky escape! Once more capitalism triumphs over the red menace! Huzzah!
Iansisle
10-10-2007, 05:13
The Gull Flag Republic fully supports any anti-communist crusades that can be stopped cold by six Beddgelern children. It does suggest, however, that the Federation of Albalast attempt a more acheivable goal than the destruction of communism first, perhaps such as the destruction of That Neighbor's Dog who Digs in the Bushes.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
10-10-2007, 05:17
America offers to send 20 billion dollars in covert aid to Albalast. While no one is looking.
The Ryou Black Islands
10-10-2007, 05:28
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The People's Republic of The Ryou Black Islands
The Government of The Ryou Black Islands sees your threat as a act of war, since We are what you call "Evil Communists" namely we are Maoists.
hence The PRTRBI Declares a State of war between The Ryou Black Islands and The Federation of Albalast.
But we are forgiveing, if you give up your war against all Communists and socialists with in 24 hours, we will retract the Declaration of war.
Aykhal -- CENTRAL (101007:1238)
The People's Republic of Aykhal stands neutral; though wishes to calm the unprovoked act of capitalist aggression to any red nations. Aykhal is ready to help with humanitarian efforts, as well as small military support to any 'victimized' (red) nations. The People's Republic of Aykhal humbly requests the subsiding of the Federation of Albalast, in an effort to thwart an act of war on international proportions.
-- Foreign Affairs
"The people's flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyr'd dead
And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their hearts' blood dyed its ev'ry fold."
OOC: For the love of all that is good and holy, Albalast, read the stickies. Please.
Stoklomolvi
10-10-2007, 06:00
CommissarCam Ep. #41,213
In local news, a local boy knocked over a sign that said "Property of the Federation of Albalast". He was scolded by his mother, and a few moments later was called by the Albalast government. The call reportedly was about the costs of repairing the sign, says Chief Surveillance Officer Ivan Vasiliyovich Chapayev. The mother was fined 200 USD due to the sign having been there since the "dawn of the capitalist-communist war". The mother is refusing to pay, and now the SMPF must eliminate all records of the incident.
In other news, three researchers at the Stoklomolvi Institute of Psychology spray-painted a wall in Albalast. They soon were faced with charges of 250 USD, saying that the building belonged to "Hobo Corporation, Inc., Co., Institute". Again, the researchers refused to pay, and the audio from both calls were circulated on the government monitored internet. It surely did brighten most of the citizens' days.
The Ryou Black Islands
10-10-2007, 06:24
OOC: For the love of all that is good and holy, Albalast, read the stickies. Please.
OOC: I agree with you.
Stoklomolvi
10-10-2007, 06:31
[OOC: Thirded.]
Wakesburg
10-10-2007, 08:25
Though I do enjoy a good war as much as the other, and Communism strikes me as wrong for the Empire of Wakesburg, I see no reason why we cannot simply limit ourselves to simple cold diplomatic relations. Besides, the Imperial economy runs on a loose command economy, and communism doesn't mean bad. Abandon your crusade of ideological differences. You have been warned.
Orleannia
10-10-2007, 08:27
My small peaceful nomadic nation of Orleannia does not concern itself with war. There is little to do but laze around playing the enlightening instrument called the Mongongo drum and eat Mongongo nuts. Mongongo Nuts .:fluffle:
Wakesburg
10-10-2007, 08:51
We of the Empire of Wakesburg would like a sample of these "Mongongo Nuts." As we are people of discerning taste, we may be interested in setting up a trade.
Oily prata
10-10-2007, 09:00
OOC:ARGH! MY EYES! THEY BURRRN! Seriously. Read the stickies before posting,my good man.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
10-10-2007, 09:02
America does not support war.
The Ryou Black Islands
10-10-2007, 15:11
Bombaria Air Force Base, Isla Calbalia, Ryou Black Islands.
The Ryou were about to make the first move in the war against the Insignifect Nation of Albalast. from The Air Force Base, 100 B-52 Stratofortress, 12 Tu-95 Strategic bombers and 90 F-23 Black Widow II's weer takeing off to start a Air Attack on Albalast.
The Targets would be Factories and Military Bases, softing up raids to prepare for a Full Scale Invasion of Albalast.
The People's Military would soon crush the Albalastians and show them that they were not strong.
The Ryou Black Islands
10-10-2007, 16:43
OOC: Looks like Albalast and his "Mighty Allaince of Capitalism" is running away.
Albalast, have you read the stickies? Because that is one terrible post(s).
Bombaria Air Force Base, Isla Calbalia, Ryou Black Islands.
The Ryou were about to make the first move in the war against the Insignifect Nation of Albalast. from The Air Force Base, 100 B-52 Stratofortress, 12 Tu-95 Strategic bombers and 90 F-23 Black Widow II's weer takeing off to start a Air Attack on Albalast.
The Targets would be Factories and Military Bases, softing up raids to prepare for a Full Scale Invasion of Albalast.
The People's Military would soon crush the Albalastians and show them that they were not strong.
Although I'm one of those 'Hey, don't do that in front of us good guys' people, YAAAAAY!
The Ryou Black Islands
10-10-2007, 16:57
Although I'm one of those 'Hey, don't do that in front of us good guys' people, YAAAAAY!
OOC: :cool::cool::cool::cool:
Scott Tree
10-10-2007, 17:14
The nation of Scott Tree agrees Communism and Capitalism can not exists in the same world together under every communist country in history has always led to dictators with capitalism it lead to western Europe, Japan, Australia, South Korea and the U.S.A. Communism has only lead to North Korea, China, the former soviet block or Eastern Europe and the U.S.S.R. which of the two is better for the choices they made the capitalist west or the communist east. I choice the free open democratic societies with civil liberties over controlled despotism with few to none civil liberties. Scott Tree Stand with you
Communism:mp5::sniper::mp5::sniper::mp5::sniper: Attack!!!!!!!!!! Charge
Dalnijrus
10-10-2007, 17:16
Albalast, have you read the stickies? Because that is one terrible post(s).
[ I think that if, by now, Albalast has not gotten the general gist of a point, all hope is entirely lost. In any case, Jolt, fortunately or unfortunately, does not sage threads, and so posting the same message over and over and over again will actually just keep it popular. ]
The nation of Scott Tree agrees Communism and Capitalism can not exists in the same world together under every communist country in history has always led to dictators with capitalism it lead to western Europe, Japan, Australia, South Korea and the U.S.A. Communism has only lead to North Korea, China, the former soviet block or Eastern Europe and the U.S.S.R. which of the two is better for the choices they made the capitalist west or the communist east. I choice the free open democratic societies with civil liberties over controlled despotism with few to none civil liberties. Scott Tree Stand with you
Communism Attack!!!!!!!!!! Charge
First of all with all those smiles you look like a retard. Second you should read the stickies two and third don't get involved in stupid threads like this.
Anton Vanstone
10-10-2007, 20:05
Comrade General Anton Vanstone is displeased by the capitalist narrow view/
The Ryou Black Islands
11-10-2007, 00:48
Nearing Albalastian Airspace.
The Bombers and their fighter escourts were nearing enemy airspace, The enemy Would soon be faceing an nation that would blast their nation to bits.
The Bombers had one weapon that would make sure Albalast would not get the planes. The Quail, an unusual kind of ASM, is so small that a B-52 (like the ones that were heading for Albalast) can carry several at one time But the Quail is shaped like a bomber it appears to be a full sized bomber on enemy radar screens. Launching a Number of Quails confuses the enemy Defenses and gives Real Bombers a better Chance of getting though.
These would help in this attack, for the Bombers had Cruise Missiles also, for Long Range attacks against Albalastian Targets.
OOC: This is Quail. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-20_Quail)
Stoklomolvi
11-10-2007, 01:28
CommissarCam Ep. #41,245
A small Stoklomolvi aircraft flew over the tiny nation of Albalast earlier today. It dropped about fifteen hundred leaflets, wasting fifteen hundred sheets of prime Stoklomolvi recycled paper. Reportedly each leaflet had the words, "Haha," written on them, and when the Albalast government discovered the leaflets the man, Mr. Smith, 33, was fined about 560 USD in littering fines. Mr. Smith is refusing to pay the sum, and said in a commentary, "The Stoklomolvi government will back me up on this. I know they will." And, yes, he was right. The Stoklomolvi government does support Mr. Smith, and will not pay any damages.
In other news, a massive capitalist army was gathering on a peninsula, apparently to assault us. To keep them away, we send cannon packets with worthless counterfeit stoklomovs. Each capsule contained about § 1000, which is quite foreign to those who do not live in Stoklomolvi. As such, the greedy enemy rushed for the money and did not worry about Stoklomolvi. Alas, even if they did worry they would have to climb down their cliffs, swim across 300 yards of deep ocean, and climb up our own cliffs.
DEATH TO THE COMMIES!!!!!!
Our proud country will fight, all of us to the death...all to stop the spread Communism
Anton Vanstone
11-10-2007, 01:51
To Stoklomolvi
From Comrade Anton Vanstone
{encoded}
Comrade I Feel for your cause, So much so That I am willing to Provide 50 J-10 Vanguard Multirole Fighters Plus a volunteer force of 6,000 Infantry and 100 bmp 3's While i cant join in the war, I will gladly Send there forces to you As a show of friendship, The red brigade Is at your service My brother wishes to command the force but he will be under your command. Or if another red nation needs aid I will gladly help.
The Ryou Black Islands
11-10-2007, 02:23
OOC: on this is a List of Albalast's Claims of Allies
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Capitalist-Communist_War
and I have not Attacked yet!
Anton Vanstone
11-10-2007, 02:31
I would like to play a part in this war, {like a supplier for my communist brothers}
The Ryou Black Islands
11-10-2007, 02:39
The Planes soon entered enemy airspace and headed to The mainland, They would target the enemy Capital City and then launch the Cruise Missiles. Before that, the B-52s were launch the Quails to confuse the enemy Anti-Air Defenses, any enemy fighters would be attacked by The escourts
and it was only 2 Hours and 34 Miniutes till the attack started.
The Vuhifellian States
11-10-2007, 02:50
If this actually evolves into a serious RP, I'll take the side of Ryou as an arms supplying and technical advisor, maybe send some SpecOps teams to reinforce his forces.
Stoklomolvi
11-10-2007, 02:51
CommissarCam Ep. #41,251
Today, a local farmer found an Albalast coin on his farm. Soon after, the SMPF came and searched his land, and found a total of 3 coins, worth approximately 0.00000024 USD. Stoklomolvi is rather curious about these paper coins, and also questions the number of allies that Albalast has. Currently, Albalast has exactly 71 allies, including Greal Look Inc., which has invested 40 billion USD into Stoklomolvi. Government officials are questioning the authority of this report, and will stay dormant for the moment. In other news, the Dictatorship of Anton Vanstone has appeared to supply the two Communist nations with supplies. Stay tuned.
Well if you want to do this go ahead no one is going to stop you, but it really just seems stupid.
Stoklomolvi
11-10-2007, 02:59
[OOC: War page updated.]
Communism is a great thing, and will only work when the world evolves into Socialism. I am social democratic, but I believe communism will work when the world turns into a global state. note that there is a difference between communism and revisionism, as communists SHOULD know. capitalism exploits third world countries, and will not work, you can see so much proof and just ask a non-revisionist marxist communist and he will prove you wrong. I can, but I haven't got the time.
Anton Vanstone
11-10-2007, 03:18
To Communist leaders
From Comrade Vanstone
{encription type 156}
I Give all communist airforces access to my millitary field's
Plus If you need to rest and re fit My nation will allow your soldiers Unlimited r&r time
Best regards Comrade V
Leafanistan
11-10-2007, 03:21
The Ryou Black Islands was in the CA last we checked, so the Corporate Alliance sides with Ryou.
We are prepared to defend our ally.
OOC: Leafanistan will defend the Black Islands in secret with some technological projects we are trying.
Stoklomolvi
11-10-2007, 03:48
[OOC: War Page (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Capitalist-Communist_War) updated.]
Albalast
11-10-2007, 03:55
Bombaria Air Force Base, Isla Calbalia, Ryou Black Islands.
The Ryou were about to make the first move in the war against the Insignifect Nation of Albalast. from The Air Force Base, 100 B-52 Stratofortress, 12 Tu-95 Strategic bombers and 90 F-23 Black Widow II's weer takeing off to start a Air Attack on Albalast.
The Targets would be Factories and Military Bases, softing up raids to prepare for a Full Scale Invasion of Albalast.
The People's Military would soon crush the Albalastians and show them that they were not strong.
Hilarious, We have bought military equipment from various nations we have flak guns around all important targets.
Stoklomolvi
11-10-2007, 04:00
[OOC: Godmod attempt alert!]
The Ryou Black Islands
11-10-2007, 04:04
Hilarious, We have bought military equipment from various nations we have flak guns around all important targets.
OOC: Flak guns? Against Jet Fighters and B-52 and other Bombers that fly higher then Flak Guns?
I smell Third World nation against a More Powerful Nation
Fun :)
Rustopia, though normally a region of a small handful of isolationist countries, has recently installed me to handle regional foriegn affairs. After a short consultation we have decided that we fully support Ryuo and their allies. Henceforth, any an all aid asked from Ryou or their allies shall be granted in their battle for self perseverance.
Battle on comrades!:sniper::mp5::sniper:
The Ryou Black Islands
11-10-2007, 04:40
Albalast and other Newbies: If you're seriously considering becoming a regular, you should check up on the stickies in each forum and read the advice that they give you. Here's a link you might want to check out: II Consolidation Sticky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414035)
Hurtful Thoughts
11-10-2007, 05:42
Although I'm one of those 'Hey, don't do that in front of us good guys' people, YAAAAAY!
OOC: :cool::cool::cool::cool:
Hehe...
Antigr, does this mean I win the bet that Ryou isn't a noob?
*Considers asking mods to close thread on regards to it simply being the craziest serious war declaration for 2007.
Since doing so would mean war against TWSP, and even if Ryou and TWSP may not agree too often, they may actually go and finish the fight, since TWSP tends to have a cult following known as the Sovereign League, and Ryou's involvement voids CA involvement.
Ryou, I think Arby OOCly went into hiding.
No, wait, he's using 88 mm Flak 18s against B-52s... ROFL...
Please, all new/beginer players, skip this RP and let it die.
And read the stickies next time...
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I'll also point out, tyhat his bombers are merely in the air and 'on station', he hasn't gone into your airspace yet, and hasn't attacked you yet, since you didn't post losses, and now it is coming about 24 hours. (30 minutes ago was the point of no return, so our NSWiki is full of holes, please correct it.)
The PeoplesFreedom
11-10-2007, 05:48
Communism is a great thing, and will only work when the world evolves into Socialism. I am social democratic, but I believe communism will work when the world turns into a global state. note that there is a difference between communism and revisionism, as communists SHOULD know. capitalism exploits third world countries, and will not work, you can see so much proof and just ask a non-revisionist marxist communist and he will prove you wrong. I can, but I haven't got the time.
How wrong you are. Feel free to telegram me if you want to have your beliefs rocked.
And, yeah, this could possibly be the most noobish thread of '07.
The PeoplesFreedom
11-10-2007, 05:53
Uh, Hurtful Thoughts is not an admin.
Stoklomolvi
11-10-2007, 05:54
War ended. Go home, people.
Imperial isa
11-10-2007, 05:56
War ended. Go home, people.
dam i was going to fire 300 ICBMs at them :(
The Ryou Black Islands
11-10-2007, 16:22
OOC: I will wait for Albalast to post, he doesn't come on till some time in the afternoon
Who is declaring War on who?
Myself I am neither a Capitalist OR communist but Albalast is my Ally so I must help him.
THE RYOU BLACK ISLANDS WITHDRAW NOW.
The Ryou Black Islands
11-10-2007, 16:56
Who is declaring War on who?
Myself I am neither a Capitalist OR communist but Albalast is my Ally so I must help him.
THE RYOU BLACK ISLANDS WITHDRAW NOW.
Albalast was the one who started this war with his Anti-Communist hate and we will not Withdraw, He bought this on him self and their are other Communist Nations that will Attack him, you can't stop all of them.
The World Soviet Party
11-10-2007, 17:02
Albalast was the one who started this war with his Anti-Communist hate and we will not Withdraw, He bought this on him self and their are other Communist Nations that will Attack him, you can't stop all of them.
Other communist nations such as...?
The Ryou Black Islands
11-10-2007, 17:10
Other communist nations such as...?
Any one who wants to blast Albalast to bits or Help him RP Better. (Like I am doing.)
The Ryou Black Islands
11-10-2007, 17:51
The Bombers were now in sight of Land and they had a change of Targets, they would start the war by attacking a Port City. From what Ryou Intel had found, the enemy air defenses were Flak Guns, useless against The Higher Flying Planes that the Ryous had.
The Quails were Launched first to make the enemy think that there were more Bombers then what there were.
The Air War had started.
Hurtful Thoughts
11-10-2007, 19:28
Any one who wants to blast Albalast to bits or Help him RP Better. (Like I am doing.)
OOC:
Mind if the SIC agreement with FPM has its target in AA's counter-counter-piracy stuff transfered to here?
Their technology and weapons are more on par to deal with this new nation than with AA's island chains.
(Oddly, chances are my black market Mafia is better armed than his entire nation, until one finds out the mafia only has 3 light tanks...)
They'll also need transportation to the target, most likely employing a civillian charter flight from TWSP as a hub. (If they land before they start shooting -or get picked up by Ryou- then they wouldn't be violating any agreements)
Will you people quit posting? (Except for RBI who is currently crushing Albalast)
A thread like this doesn't deserve a response.
Albalast
12-10-2007, 00:54
Dude if we are going to have a war we should have maps of our nations, and we should be reasonable 200,000,000 red guard? 100,000,000 marines? Quails?
This is the map of my Union weres yours http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/TU-map.GIF
THEED,ALBALAST- The Trade Union Security Council today announced no offensive acts would take place in the next few days against the Ryou Black Islands. Gen. J. Abridon stated at a press conference, "The TU has received enough funds from other nations to create a strong defense network, surface to air missiles and surface to surface ones working in conjunction with the coastal battery's, a mid sized strong but small navy, and a small missile system, we are heavily defended but there is no way in **** we will be able to subdue the half dozen or so nations of the Communist Alliance anytime soon." In other news High Altitude Surface to Quail Missiles have reportedly done very well over the sparsely populated outer reefs. Many quail were stunned by the explosions but not ripped apart, natives of the outer reefs have reportedly "ate there fill of quail".
The Ryou Black Islands
12-10-2007, 01:01
Dude if we are going to have a war we should have maps of our nations, and we should be reasonable 200,000,000 red guard? 100,000,000 marines? Quails?
This is the map of my Union weres yours http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/TU-map.GIF
OOC: Read the Stickies................NOW!
Oh and it is 1,400,000 Red Guard Troopers and 800,000 Marines are did you not READ!
and this is the Quail I am talking about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-20_Quail
OOC: Read the Stickies................NOW!
Oh and it is 1,400,000 Red Guard Troopers and 800,000 Marines are did you not READ!
and this is the Quail I am talking about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-20_Quail
OOC: "Hey, kettle!"
"Yeah?"
"You're black! lulz!"
Maldorians
12-10-2007, 01:19
Heavily Encrypted Message to Albalast
Hello. We see your plight and we would like to help. We will offer you a division of elite mercenaries ready to fight for you. Just name the price and place and they'll be there.
Thank you.
~Board of Directors.
-Mandalorian Merc.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
12-10-2007, 01:21
Nearing Albalastian Airspace.
The Bombers and their fighter escourts were nearing enemy airspace, The enemy Would soon be faceing an nation that would blast their nation to bits.
The Bombers had one weapon that would make sure Albalast would not get the planes. The Quail, an unusual kind of ASM, is so small that a B-52 (like the ones that were heading for Albalast) can carry several at one time But the Quail is shaped like a bomber it appears to be a full sized bomber on enemy radar screens. Launching a Number of Quails confuses the enemy Defenses and gives Real Bombers a better Chance of getting though.
These would help in this attack, for the Bombers had Cruise Missiles also, for Long Range attacks against Albalastian Targets.
OOC: This is Quail. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-20_Quail)
An attack on Albalast will be an attack on the United States.
Maldorians
12-10-2007, 01:31
OOC: "Hey, kettle!"
"Yeah?"
"You're black! lulz!"
OOC: WTF does that mean? I never understood! :(
The Ryou Black Islands
12-10-2007, 01:33
The Bombers soon targeted the port city of Bandel, the main targets were Shipyards and docks and Factories. The Bombers each launched eight Cruise Missiles, with High Explodeive Warheads. while The Fighters attacked with The BMG-356 Anti-Bunker Missile, made to destroy Bunkers, or in this case, Flak gun enplacements. after all Missiles were launched, the Planes headed off, back to The Ryou Black Islands.
they also left a bad surpirse.
The Quails were Decoys to make the enemy fire on them with their WWII syle Defenses, but these were Modified.
They were also Flying Fire Bombs, and they were now starting to fly into Houses, to start a Large fire.
War had Begun.
Dalnijrus
12-10-2007, 01:36
OOC: WTF does that mean? I never understood! :(
[ Pot is black.
Kettle is black.
Pot, which is black, calls kettle black, ignoring its own black-ness. ]
Albalast
12-10-2007, 01:55
The Bombers soon targeted the port city of Bandel, the main targets were Shipyards and docks and Factories. The Bombers each launched eight Cruise Missiles, with High Explodeive Warheads. while The Fighters attacked with The BMG-356 Anti-Bunker Missile, made to destroy Bunkers, or in this case, Flak gun enplacements. after all Missiles were launched, the Planes headed off, back to The Ryou Black Islands.
they also left a bad surpirse.
The Quails were Decoys to make the enemy fire on them with their WWII syle Defenses, but these were Modified.
They were also Flying Fire Bombs, and they were now starting to fly into Houses, to start a Large fire.
War had Begun.
Didnt you see the thread that says we have created a heavy defensive up-to date system thanks to a large infuse of funds from the mandalore and the USA.
No wait here it is:
"Dude if we are going to have a war we should have maps of our nations, and we should be reasonable 200,000,000 red guard? 100,000,000 marines? Quails?
This is the map of my Union weres yours http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/TU-map.GIF
THEED,ALBALAST- The Trade Union Security Council today announced no offensive acts would take place in the next few days against the Ryou Black Islands. Gen. J. Abridon stated at a press conference, "The TU has received enough funds from other nations to create a strong defense network, surface to air missiles and surface to surface ones working in conjunction with the coastal battery's, a mid sized strong but small navy, and a small missile system, we are heavily defended but there is no way in **** we will be able to subdue the half dozen or so nations of the Communist Alliance anytime soon." In other news High Altitude Surface to Quail Missiles have reportedly done very well over the sparsely populated outer reefs. Many quail were stunned by the explosions but not ripped apart, natives of the outer reefs have reportedly "ate there fill of quail"."
Albalast
12-10-2007, 02:02
As the enemy fighters left Bandel the newly activated Trade Union Defense Network opened fire with a large amount of small sized missiles as they headed out over the sparsely populated outlying islands. then with much of the flight group decimated a small contingent of fighters from Aniane swarmed the unprotected bombers. The Devastation of Bandel Ruined about half of the city mostly the waterfront areas but thanks to early warning from the outlying coral islands most civilians were able to flee in time. 60,000 dead in Bandel.
Intelligenstan
12-10-2007, 02:04
In one day, Intelligenstan has shifted its entire economy on focus of producing the elite space-age weaponry, while your capitalist companies compete for weapon production. Only one company ends up winning and the rest arenĀ“t used for the war. You just lost around 80% of your possible funding for the war, and lose.
[ Pot is black.
Kettle is black.
Pot, which is black, calls kettle black, ignoring its own black-ness. ]
*Hands cookie*
Stoklomolvi
12-10-2007, 02:15
[OOC: Shouldn't it be up to the defending nation to determine casualties? If not, then GODMODE ALERT!]
The World Soviet Party
12-10-2007, 02:28
OOC: However brings me the head of the Ryou's leadership shall obtain a large amount of money, yes, even CA members are elegible for the reward.
Dalnijrus
12-10-2007, 02:50
*Hands cookie*
[ Rah! ]
OOC: However [Whoever?] brings me the head of the Ryou's leadership shall obtain a large amount of money, yes, even CA members are elegible for the reward.
[ Use of OOC confuses me. Are you calling for an on- or off-forum witch-hunt? I think I'd be up for either, but if the latter, my car is currently out of service. D: ]
The World Soviet Party
12-10-2007, 03:01
[ Use of OOC confuses me. Are you calling for an on- or off-forum witch-hunt? I think I'd be up for either, but if the latter, my car is currently out of service. D: ]
The "However" was my mistake, and no, it's not an OOC Witch-Hunt (even though that'd be nice), only a reminder as I have made an IC post regarding that offer (specifically, in the CA thread).
Stoklomolvi
12-10-2007, 04:32
CommissarCam Ep. #41,614
Stoklomolvi, today, has officially MOBILISED in preparation for war. Stoklomolvi cannot stand for its allies to be decimated under some random island in the middle of somewhere. Hence, Stoklomolvi shall send 20 Stoklomolvi Imperial Guard Army Regions to fight, and the said army will number to be around 4,500,000 men, which is around a little more than a half of Stoklomolvi's total ground force. Missile defence systems have mobilised, and the conscription offices have opened. Now, Stoklomolvi will have its first real war since the prehistoric era. Stoklomolvi calls upon fellow communist nations to join the war and keep the capitalist pig-dogs at bay.
The World Soviet Party
12-10-2007, 04:33
CommissarCam Ep. #41,614
Stoklomolvi, today, has officially MOBILISED in preparation for war. Stoklomolvi cannot stand for its allies to be decimated under some random island in the middle of somewhere. Hence, Stoklomolvi shall send 20 Stoklomolvi Imperial Guard Army Regions to fight, and the said army will number to be around 4,500,000 men, which is around a little more than a half of Stoklomolvi's total ground force. Missile defence systems have mobilised, and the conscription offices have opened. Now, Stoklomolvi will have its first real war since the prehistoric era. Stoklomolvi calls upon fellow communist nations to join the war and keep the capitalist pig-dogs at bay.
Can you say "ECONOMIC DEATH"?
Stoklomolvi
12-10-2007, 04:39
[OOC: That is less than 0.5% of my country's population, so technically no. Also, Albalast cannot have 1 million men, since he only has 18 million people. Hence, he can only have 180,000 men maximum. His RPing skills have improved as well.]
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
12-10-2007, 04:47
[OOC: Shouldn't it be up to the defending nation to determine casualties? If not, then GODMODE ALERT!]
(I agree)
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
12-10-2007, 04:54
The United States regrets the outbreak of hositilities. We support the end of socialism through peaceful, democratic means involving the people native to such countries, without the use of armed force from third parties.
However, we also oppose communist conquest of countries just because they are anticommunist. The United States therefore, announces, an emergency infusion of $100 billion in arms and monetary aid to Albalast so they can resist the invaders.
President Reagan proposes a capitalist/communist meeting of the minds in Washington DC to diffuse the crises. America will refrain from threat of nuclear weapons if the communist countries involved in hostilities against Albalist do the same.
The Ryou Black Islands
12-10-2007, 04:54
[OOC: Shouldn't it be up to the defending nation to determine casualties? If not, then GODMODE ALERT!]
OOC: who are you talking about?
[OOC: That is less than 0.5% of my country's population, so technically no. Also, Albalast cannot have 1 million men, since he only has 18 million people. Hence, he can only have 180,000 men maximum. His RPing skills have improved as well.]
OOC: Actually, there is no real rule about that, they're just guidelines. And he could have up to 5%
Stoklomolvi
12-10-2007, 04:56
[OOC: That comment is currently irrelevant; I was pertaining to Albalast anyway.]
Shazbotdom
12-10-2007, 04:59
http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/VariousShazbotdom/ForeignAffairsMinisterSeal.gif
FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
While the Shazbotdom Empire has a Socialist Government, our Economy is rather centrist. And our Frightening Economy proves that not all Socialist/Communist Nations have 'small fragile economy' and 'shitty military'. Our military has a budget more than your entire Gross Domestic Product put together.
But, the Shazbotdom Empire is going to stay neutral in this conflict. We don't see any reason that everyone should jump to the will of a government that has shown no real morals in it's nation..
OOC:
The reason for the Image Comming Soon is that the image host I am using is currently offline. Once they come back up I will fix that.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
12-10-2007, 05:10
[OOC: That comment is currently irrelevant; I was pertaining to Albalast anyway.]
(OOC: I was agreeing that he couldn't have 1 million. At least according to this: http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php?nation=albalast. And if his currency is worth 60 rl cents, then he has less than 13 billion in his defense budget. But I don't know how you guys determine your budgets. Just noting his pop and his budget do not seem to allow him a 1 mill army with all the stuff he is claiming. Even with my aid, it would still take him time to recieve the funds, more time to spend them and buy the stuff he wants. You can't just buy stuff and then have them appear in your hangar overnight as if they materialize out of nothingness. They have to be delivered from somewhere. I don't know if that makes any sense to anyone.)
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
12-10-2007, 05:12
*Image Comming Soon*
FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
While the Shazbotdom Empire has a Socialist Government, our Economy is rather centrist. And our Frightening Economy proves that not all Socialist/Communist Nations have 'small fragile economy' and 'shitty military'. Our military has a budget more than your entire Gross Domestic Product put together.
But, the Shazbotdom Empire is going to stay neutral in this conflict. We don't see any reason that everyone should jump to the will of a government that has shown no real morals in it's nation..
OOC:
The reason for the Image Comming Soon is that the image host I am using is currently offline. Once they come back up I will fix that.
America believes Shazbotdom can play a positive role in ending the conflict via peaceful diplomatic means and encourages Shazbotdom to pursue such a role.
The Ryou Black Islands
12-10-2007, 05:19
As the enemy fighters left Bandel the newly activated Trade Union Defense Network opened fire with a large amount of small sized missiles as they headed out over the sparsely populated outlying islands. then with much of the flight group decimated a small contingent of fighters from Aniane swarmed the unprotected bombers. The Devastation of Bandel Ruined about half of the city mostly the waterfront areas but thanks to early warning from the outlying coral islands most civilians were able to flee in time. 60,000 dead in Bandel.
OOC: It is I who says what is Downed or not on MY side, you phail.
IC: the Attackers were not destroyed. since it seemed that the Albalastians forgot about that Bombers had Decoys, Flares that cuased the Missiles to miss the planes.
The enemy Fighters were new pilots no doubt, they would see thet they were nothing against Fully Trained Fighter Pilots in a F-23 Black Widow II armed with FAR-78 Air-to-Air Missile.
This also showed that the enemy was building more weapons. This was in fact a Boon for the Ryou. This showed that instead of Food, the Albalast Government was buying Weapons, very pricey Weapons. This would Ruin The Economy.
so the Ryous were to start a blockade of Albalast, one that would make sure the Civilians would suffer from the Stupidiy of their Government.
Hackers were also helpping in destroying The Economy. Hacking into banks and the Treasury of Albalast and destroying all files and sending Money to of all places...............Stevid, The Ryou Black Islands ally.
The Hackers also sent a Virus into the Defense Computers of Albalast to know them out.
OOC: It is I who says what is Downed or not on MY side, you phail.
IC: the Attackers were not destroyed. since it seemed that the Albalastians forgot about that Bombers had Decoys, Flares that cuased the Missiles to miss the planes.
The enemy Fighters were new pilots no doubt, they would see thet they were nothing against Fully Trained Fighter Pilots in a F-23 Black Widow II armed with FAR-78 Air-to-Air Missile.
This also showed that the enemy was building more weapons. This was in fact a Boon for the Ryou. This showed that instead of Food, the Albalast Government was buying Weapons, very pricey Weapons. This would Ruin The Economy.
so the Ryous were to start a blockade of Albalast, one that would make sure the Civilians would suffer from the Stupidiy of their Government.
Hackers were also helpping in destroying The Economy. Hacking into banks and the Treasury of Albalast and destroying all files and sending Money to of all places...............Stevid, The Ryou Black Islands ally.
The Hackers also sent a Virus into the Defense Computers of Albalast to know them out.
OOC: It seems a bit like the hackers part was a little godmoddy. I don't think you can claim they automatically make it into the banks and just send money everywhere, and same with the viruses. You can say that they attempted, but security systems for both the defense systems and banks would be pretty damn hard to hack.
And usually the government doesn't need to produce food. People can kinda do that themselves.
The Ryou Black Islands
12-10-2007, 05:29
OOC: It seems a bit like the hackers part was a little godmoddy. I don't think you can claim they automatically make it into the banks and just send money everywhere, and same with the viruses. You can say that they attempted, but security systems for both the defense systems and banks would be pretty damn hard to hack.
And usually the government doesn't need to produce food. People can kinda do that themselves.
OOC: I was busy with other things.
OOC: I was busy with other things.
OOC: Okay? Just pointing it out, after all, Albalast might ignore it.
Stoklomolvi
12-10-2007, 05:58
CommissarCam Ep. #41,615
The Stoklomolvi government has expressed its disapproval of the Ryou Black Island's military strategy of total war. Hacking into government computers and extracting classified information for personal gain is highly frowned upon. If total warfare continues, then Stoklomolvi will cease support of the Ryou Black Island. Currently, Stoklomolvi has been mobilised and war has been declared but no troop movements have been made. Hence, Stoklomolvi can just as easily pull out of this war.
Dalnijrus
12-10-2007, 06:03
OOC: Actually, there is no real rule about that, they're just guidelines. And he could have up to 5%
[ Only if you had previously prepared for such a tremendous amount, or are throwing every man, woman and child at the enemy or rebelling against a given power. ]
[ Only if you had previously prepared for such a tremendous amount, or are throwing every man, woman and child at the enemy or rebelling against a given power. ]
That is very true. But I highly doubt that the leader of a nation would like to take on communism without his military at its highest power.
And yes, 5% is definitely pushing it. I was just saying it was possible, the person I quoted said that 1% was the max.
Hurtful Thoughts
12-10-2007, 08:05
Heavily Encrypted Message to Albalast
Hello. We see your plight and we would like to help. We will offer you a division of elite mercenaries ready to fight for you. Just name the price and place and they'll be there.
Thank you.
~Board of Directors.
-Mandalorian Merc.
Traitor!!!
Backstabber!!!!
*Gives Mal a cookie*
OOC: WTF does that mean? I never understood! :(
Just another poster who can't get over the past.
Oh, right... this is awkward... Help, hurt, or kill....
No matter what I do I'm gonna get screwed...
Eh, just do the missions in reverse order, that way I'll get both rewards...
Dalnijrus
12-10-2007, 08:48
That is very true. But I highly doubt that the leader of a nation would like to take on communism without his military at its highest power.
And yes, 5% is definitely pushing it. I was just saying it was possible, the person I quoted said that 1% was the max.
[ In that lies the danger of making assumptions; it's always better to err on the side of expecting, if not ignorance, then simple misunderstanding or misremembering, in my experience. ]
The Ryou Black Islands
12-10-2007, 16:11
CommissarCam Ep. #41,615
The Stoklomolvi government has expressed its disapproval of the Ryou Black Island's military strategy of total war. Hacking into government computers and extracting classified information for personal gain is highly frowned upon. If total warfare continues, then Stoklomolvi will cease support of the Ryou Black Island. Currently, Stoklomolvi has been mobilised and war has been declared but no troop movements have been made. Hence, Stoklomolvi can just as easily pull out of this war.
The Ryou Black Islands will Continue Total War against the Albalastians, as the Money that is taken out is sent to Stevid, namely into Chairties for the poor.
And the Blockade will stay on Albalast till They give in and cease their madness.
Albalastian Troops: 1 million (Pacific Islands Defence Force may join making it rise to 147.25 million - At the moment we are at Neutral turning to alert.)
The Ryou Black Islands Troops: 12.55 million
HT, Being your ally, I expect a cookie too. *Motions for him to hand one over*
Hurtful Thoughts
12-10-2007, 20:00
HT, Being your ally, I expect a cookie too. *Motions for him to hand one over*
But you haven't done anything yet....
Oh, wait, you're right, you did do that...
*Gives one to Antgr*
Shazbotdom
12-10-2007, 20:11
http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/VariousShazbotdom/ForeignAffairsMinisterSeal.gif
FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
After talking to the Supreme Emperor in relation to the current state of affairs between the Communist/Socialist and the Capitalist Nations that has been caused by The Federation of Albalast. We have decided that we shall offer the Nations Involved to a Peace Conference.
This Peace Conference will take place on one of our newest Naval Vessels which we purchased from Democratic Colonies, the Tempora Heroica Class Internalized Through Deck Aircraft Carrier (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10582822&postcount=1). We will be using the "Diplomatic Conference Chamber" which is centralized between the Forward and Central helepads.
We hope people from both sides will come to this conference and if nessicary, we will dispatch some of our Vertial Takeoff AC-01 Pelican aircraft to come pick up deligations from any nation wishing to attend.
Hurtful Thoughts
12-10-2007, 20:50
This Peace Conference will take place on one of our newest Naval Vessels which we purchased from Democratic Colonies, the Tempora Heroica Class Internalized Through Deck Aircraft Carrier (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10582822&postcount=1). We will be using the "Diplomatic Conference Chamber" which is centralized between the Forward and Central helepads.
Heh, forgot I helped with that... live fire testing indeed...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10580610&postcount=30
Wait a sec, doesn't that mean I've got 3 of these undocumented behomoths?
*Checks New Roanoke Island Naval base for mothballed ships*
Oh, right, 2 under limited pace construction and another sunk as a temporary reef until I built an air-force...
The Ryou Black Islands
12-10-2007, 21:02
http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/VariousShazbotdom/ForeignAffairsMinisterSeal.gif
FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
After talking to the Supreme Emperor in relation to the current state of affairs between the Communist/Socialist and the Capitalist Nations that has been caused by The Federation of Albalast. We have decided that we shall offer the Nations Involved to a Peace Conference.
This Peace Conference will take place on one of our newest Naval Vessels which we purchased from Democratic Colonies, the Tempora Heroica Class Internalized Through Deck Aircraft Carrier (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10582822&postcount=1). We will be using the "Diplomatic Conference Chamber" which is centralized between the Forward and Central helepads.
We hope people from both sides will come to this conference and if nessicary, we will dispatch some of our Vertial Takeoff AC-01 Pelican aircraft to come pick up deligations from any nation wishing to attend.
We will join The Peace talks, even though we doubt Albalast will agree, seeing that they are lead by madmen.
Alexandriov
12-10-2007, 21:02
The united socialist states of Alexandriov support war for the libberation of the proletariat form the corrupt, decadent, listless, capitalist sow. Alexandriov is a modern Trotskist country. Working men, throw off your shackles!
Ministry of State
This war is madness*...what does either side have to gain by throwing their forces at each other in an abattoir, driven by no other reason than the ideology of the other party? There is no net gain for either side, save for the deaths of thousands and billions in economic output lost.
Our country cannot become involved in a pointless struggle such as this. We will not allow our markets to be threatened by the crusades of others, and will add our voices to the call for peace. We will send a delegate to said peace conference to bring an end to this bickering.
Regards,
Proconsul Eveginy Alabayev
ooc: *In before THIS IS SPARTA!
Stoklomolvi
13-10-2007, 00:14
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Stokloseal.png
CommissarCam Ep. #41,623
Stoklomolvi has issued a statement saying that they will officially withdraw all support for the Ryou Black Islands due to the reason that they continue to engage in total war. Stoklomolvi currently sues for peace between the warring factions, since the war will end in mutual assured destruction if the conflict grows any larger.
[OOC: Ryou, stop godmodding. You can't say whether or not you hack Albalast's computers. That's up to him to decide. Oh and Riopo, unless you're the god of your region, you cannot force everyone to suddenly go to war in a pointless conflict. That's up to them to decide. One more thing, unless every one of your countries, excluding Independent Military, spends a whole crapload of money on the military budget, then you're never going to get even close to 146 million men. Not even Independent Military and all of your nations combined can have that many troops, and nor can Albalast have 1 million men, since he only has 18 million people living in his nation.]
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
13-10-2007, 04:52
America encourages the government of Albalast to participate in peace talks hosted by Shazbotdom. Our aid to Albalast will depend on their participation to achieve peaceful resolution of the war.
"The American people require that recipients of so much American aid, make every reasonable effort to acheive a peaceful settlement with their enemies."
US Congressman Henry Hornthau, Democrat, Kurdistan
The Ryou Black Islands
13-10-2007, 22:42
Bump
In a bloody reprisal for the bombing of the Bandel and the killing of 60,000 civilians, Trade Union High Command reported today that 6 of there new stealth submersibles combined with 1 Galileo Class Supercarrier 5 Iowa Class Battleship
5 Lion Class Battleship 5 Iroquois Class Destroyer 6 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigate 3 Oberon Class Submarine and 50 F-22 Raptor 20 F-16 Fighting Falcon
20 F-15E Strike Eagle 40 F/A-18E/F Super Hornet
all recently bought as a package from Aero-Dumpling Inc. launched a coordinated attack in conjunction with missiles fired from battery's on the Albastian Coast against the forces of the Ryou Black Islands Navy that has blockaded the Trade Union for the last few months.
The Ryou Black Islands
14-10-2007, 00:49
The Ryous soon started Prepareing for a Invasion of Albalast, should The talks fail. The Ryou People's Congress sent Ming Tao Shang to The Shazbotdom Tempora Heroica Class Aircraft Carrier. not only for Peace talks, but to ask for Shazbotdom's help in the war just in case the talks failed.
Stoklomolvi
14-10-2007, 01:00
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Stokloseal.png
CommissarCam Ep. #41,643
Stoklomolvi protests the Trade Union attack largely, and will defend the Ryou Black Island's navy if required. Also, Stoklomolvi petitions for the United States of America to cease all communications with the Trade Union for their assault on one of Stoklomolvi's allies. Currently, Stoklomolvi has sent 200,000 of the Stoklomolvi Imperial Air Defence to aid in the defence of the Ryou Black Island. Stoklomolvi warns that any further invasion of Ryou will provoke the launching of one ICBM. Stoklomolvi also warns Ryou to cease their assaults and begin peace talks, else all support will cease once more.
The Ryou Black Islands
14-10-2007, 01:02
In a bloody reprisal for the bombing of the Bandel and the killing of 60,000 civilians, Trade Union High Command reported today that 6 of there new stealth submersibles combined with 1 Galileo Class Supercarrier 5 Iowa Class Battleship
5 Lion Class Battleship 5 Iroquois Class Destroyer 6 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigate 3 Oberon Class Submarine and 50 F-22 Raptor 20 F-16 Fighting Falcon
20 F-15E Strike Eagle 40 F/A-18E/F Super Hornet
all recently bought as a package from Aero-Dumpling Inc. launched a coordinated attack in conjunction with missiles fired from battery's on the Albastian Coast against the forces of the Ryou Black Islands Navy that has blockaded the Trade Union for the last few months.
OOC: The Blockade hasn't been started yet, it takes time for one to start.
The Ryou Black Islands
14-10-2007, 01:16
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Stokloseal.png
CommissarCam Ep. #41,643
Stoklomolvi protests the Trade Union attack largely, and will defend the Ryou Black Island's navy if required. Also, Stoklomolvi petitions for the United States of America to cease all communications with the Trade Union for their assault on one of Stoklomolvi's allies. Currently, Stoklomolvi has sent 200,000 of the Stoklomolvi Imperial Air Defence to aid in the defence of the Ryou Black Island. Stoklomolvi warns that any further invasion of Ryou will provoke the launching of one ICBM. Stoklomolvi also warns Ryou to cease their assaults and begin peace talks, else all support will cease once more.
Shazbotdom has not Declared a cease fire, and with the TU attack, we doubt that they will agree with Peace talks.
We are already sending a Envoy to the talks on the Shaz Carrier.
and also we like to tell Stoklomolvi that Albalast might go with a total war since they want to destroy all Communists and Socalists.
Shazbotdom
14-10-2007, 01:31
http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/VariousShazbotdom/ForeignAffairsMinisterSeal.gif
FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
URGENT MESSAGE
The Shazbotdom Empire will once again ask that a cease fire is initiated. If it is not, we will dispatch a battlefleet of 200 ships to the region to stop any and all attacks. We are currently preparing to assign all of the Tempora Heroica Class Internalized Through Deck Aircraft Carrier's into the Naval Battlegroup's that we currently have built up. This will cause the battlefleet that we will be sending up close to 215 total ships.
If the battle does not stop, we will demand that the two sides come to a table of peace. Or else we will have to intervene in a peacekeepign fashion, and I doubt both sides of the conflict want that.
Stoklomolvi
14-10-2007, 02:04
CommissarCam Ep. #41,644
Stoklomolvi has sent hired ambassador James Thatch to the peace conference. Meanwhile, however, the invasion force has reached the Ryou blockade of Albalast, and a battle has begun between the two sides. Stoklomolvi has sent a small bomber force of Tu-160s armed with Bushwacker H-12 High Explosive Bombs to clear out the naval forces as well as MiG-36 Interceptors to eliminate enemy aerial threats.
The Ryou Black Islands
14-10-2007, 02:24
http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/VariousShazbotdom/ForeignAffairsMinisterSeal.gif
FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
URGENT MESSAGE
The Shazbotdom Empire will once again ask that a cease fire is initiated. If it is not, we will dispatch a battlefleet of 200 ships to the region to stop any and all attacks. We are currently preparing to assign all of the Tempora Heroica Class Internalized Through Deck Aircraft Carrier's into the Naval Battlegroup's that we currently have built up. This will cause the battlefleet that we will be sending up close to 215 total ships.
If the battle does not stop, we will demand that the two sides come to a table of peace. Or else we will have to intervene in a peacekeepign fashion, and I doubt both sides of the conflict want that.
An Mi-24 Hind Helicopter Gunship was heading for the carrier where the Peace Talks were being held.
"This is the Helicopter carrying Ambassor Ming Tao Shang, Requesting Landing Over."
OOC:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ClintHoyt/EmpressWanRong.jpg
Ambassor Ming Tao Shang
The Ryou Black Islands
14-10-2007, 02:31
CommissarCam Ep. #41,644
Stoklomolvi has sent hired ambassador James Thatch to the peace conference. Meanwhile, however, the invasion force has reached the Ryou blockade of Albalast, and a battle has begun between the two sides. Stoklomolvi has sent a small bomber force of Tu-160s armed with Bushwacker H-12 High Explosive Bombs to clear out the naval forces as well as MiG-36 Interceptors to eliminate enemy aerial threats.
OOC: Who are you attacking
Stoklomolvi
14-10-2007, 02:36
[OOC: The supposed attack force that was to attack your supposedly "established" blockade. The war page has been updated (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Capitalist-Communist_War).]
The Ryou Black Islands
14-10-2007, 02:44
[OOC: The supposed attack force that was to attack your supposedly "established" blockade. The war page has been updated (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Capitalist-Communist_War).]
C: it is not established yet.
The Ryou Black Islands
14-10-2007, 02:47
[OOC: The war page has been updated (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Capitalist-Communist_War).]
I have been updateing too.
Albalast
14-10-2007, 16:29
Please post in a third party style on the NSwiki and I do agree to talks but only if they are hosted by a third party, shazbot or whoever it is is a socialist. The talks will be pretty lopsided. Why don't we cut out the moderator and just have the talks head to head?
Shazbotdom
14-10-2007, 17:09
Please post in a third party style on the NSwiki and I do agree to talks but only if they are hosted by a third party, shazbot or whoever it is is a socialist. The talks will be pretty lopsided. Why don't we cut out the moderator and just have the talks head to head?
http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/VariousShazbotdom/ForeignAffairsMinisterSeal.gif
FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
The leadership of Albalast, you are misguided and misinformed.
The Shazbotdom Empire is an advocate of peace. We have only taken up arms when we feel it is nessicary, if our allies in alliances we are a part of are threatened or if our nation was threatened directly by hostile forces. In the past, Peace talks that we have hosted were not at all 'lop sided'. Hell, if you have cared to do your homework on our homeland, you will have noticed that we have Embasies from Capitalist Nations inside our nation and that the only restrictions we put on other nations who we don't trust is just limiting the amount of people they can have in our nation.
I feel that if anyone in this conflict can initiate effective peace talks that will give both sides equal rights, it would be the Shazbotdom Empire, and no other nation.
So what say you?
Maldorians
14-10-2007, 17:56
With the Ryou blockade not yet formed, the 1st Mandalorian mercenary flotilla sped towards the nation of Albalast. Commanded by General Granger, the 89th Infantry Division was sent to defend Albalast. The flotilla, consisting of a few destroyers and cruisers, were meant to quickly reach Albalast and avoid a sea battle. They would, however, stop to engage whatever was blocking the path to their mission.
Albalast
14-10-2007, 18:46
THEED, ALBALAST- Trade Union High Command reluctantly decided to enter in peace talks with the communist nations of Ryou's Alliance. Roos Tarpals, Commander in Chief of TU Military Forces stated, "That in a wave of dissent across the country's of the Trade Union it becomes evident that no longer do the people of our nation want to fight this war. They have Betrayed there own fighting men..." The general went on about the peoples betrayal of there leaders and the obvious instigation of it by the enemy's of Big Business. Nevertheless Admiral Gregar Typho, in a show of force sailed out of the remains of Bandel with a huge fleet to meet the shazbotdotcom fleet were negotiations were to be held.
Logan and Ky
14-10-2007, 20:58
OOC: Albalast, how do you have a "Huge Fleet"? Your defense budget is only 20 billion or so. Assuming that you didnt spend your entire budget on your navy, you would only be able to afford a carrier and a few destroyers. Even with financial aid, the ships wouldnt have reached your country by now.
Stoklomolvi
14-10-2007, 21:03
[OOC: Maybe it was a huge fleet of rafts?]
"This is a curious state of affairs. If the battle were to tip in the favor of one side or another, we could simply move in and take what we want with no real resistance." Proconsul Trepov and Proconsul Alabayev were enjoying a late lunch on the rooftop of the Ministry of State, surveying the massive city around them as they ate an incredibly expensive spread of fine foods and wine. The elaborate pavilion was designed to maximize airflow in the heat of the tropical day, and it was quite cool in the shade despite the high humidity. Even the ice was holding up fairly well.
"Yes, but it is incredibly risky. We would be exposing ourselves to danger if we attempt to manipulate this conflict...the chance of a significant war is present." Trepov prepared another serving of Petropavlovsk caviar, which was running for around 110 rubles an ounce on the open market, if at all.
"I would not pursue a course of action that would threaten our economic influence in the parties involved, of course. This would be more of an attempt to sway the conflict in our favor from a neutral standpoint. Perhaps a blockade or something to that end. I'm sure we could get approval if necessary." Alabayev stared in to the distance, idly watching a construction crane operate on the half-completed framework of a new skyscraper in the distance .
"We must avoid incurring the wrath of other states, however. I must admit, I would savor the irony of the Vetalian army occupying Theed...it's almost cinematic."
The Ryou Black Islands
14-10-2007, 23:06
OOC: Albalast, how do you have a "Huge Fleet"? Your defense budget is only 20 billion or so. Assuming that you didnt spend your entire budget on your navy, you would only be able to afford a carrier and a few destroyers. Even with financial aid, the ships wouldnt have reached your country by now.
OOC: I am agreeing with you, mine is a bit larger of the Defense Budget. From what Albalast is doing...........it is wanking.........very bad wanking.
Cynapsia
14-10-2007, 23:20
Official Diplomatic Response from the United Socialist States of Cynapsia
Uh...huh...
Kommissariat of Foreign Affairs
The Ryou Black Islands
14-10-2007, 23:28
Ryou Spy Satellites soon fond the enemy fleet and sent the Info to Shazbotdom to warn then of the Albalastian Fleet.
Questers
14-10-2007, 23:30
[OOC: My defence budget is actually lower percentage-wise at the moment and it is still 125 times greater.]
[OOC: Yeah, ok, and mine is still 24x yours, even though you're a ninth my size with four times the taxes and half the spending. Lets not turn this thread into an NSeconomy 'my un feeder's dick is bigger than yours.']
STATEMENT OF HIS MAJESTY'S COURT
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Offical message
It has reached my attention that the tiny but infinitely brave nation of Albalast, righteous and capitalist as it is, is coming under attack from nations many many many times its size: the reason? Its pure hatred of Communism. To hate Communism is no crime, just as to hate a rat that carries a disease is no crime. Communism stands against everything that our nation stands for: responsible government, capitalism, christianity, empire, and the truth of our racial superiority. Our own nation, our own sovereignty and the culture and tradition we have held to be the greatest in the world, equal to a bare handful, is too coming under assault from Marxist terrorists who wish to subvert our liberties.
It is therefore with great pleasure that I extend the hand of friendship to Albalast. Our Empire upon which the sun never sets, our people, our military, and our freedom, stands ready to aid Albalast. We cannot aid financially, as there debts to be paid, but if neccesary we will transport aircraft, troops, and supplies to Albalast to aid in their defence against the Godless Bolshevik hordes. We stand ready: ask, and you, Abalast, shall receive.
God Save the King
-Alexander II
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-King-Emperor Regnant of Questers and her Colonies
-Commander in Chief of the Questarian Navy and Questarian Army
-Defender of the Faith
-Champion of Liberty
-Patron Saint of Capitalism
-Lord of the Commonwealth realms
Shazbotdom
15-10-2007, 00:21
STATEMENT OF HIS MAJESTY'S COURT
*SNIP*
Offical message
It has reached my attention that the tiny but infinitely brave nation of Albalast, righteous and capitalist as it is, is coming under attack from nations many many many times its size: the reason? Its pure hatred of Communism. To hate Communism is no crime, just as to hate a rat that carries a disease is no crime. Communism stands against everything that our nation stands for: responsible government, capitalism, christianity, empire, and the truth of our racial superiority. Our own nation, our own sovereignty and the culture and tradition we have held to be the greatest in the world, equal to a bare handful, is too coming under assault from Marxist terrorists who wish to subvert our liberties.
It is therefore with great pleasure that I extend the hand of friendship to Albalast. Our Empire upon which the sun never sets, our people, our military, and our freedom, stands ready to aid Albalast. We cannot aid financially, as there debts to be paid, but if neccesary we will transport aircraft, troops, and supplies to Albalast to aid in their defence against the Godless Bolshevik hordes. We stand ready: ask, and you, Abalast, shall receive.
God Save the King
-Alexander II
*SNIP*
-King-Emperor Regnant of Questers and her Colonies
-Commander in Chief of the Questarian Navy and Questarian Army
-Defender of the Faith
-Champion of Liberty
-Patron Saint of Capitalism
-Lord of the Commonwealth realms
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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
To King-Emperor Regnant Alexander II of Questers and her Colonies
As of right now, the Shazbotdom Government is attempting to bring peace to this situation. Do you wish to assist in the peace talks to ensure that this conflict doesn't needlessly take any lives of innocents?
I hope to hear back from you soon.
Albalast
15-10-2007, 00:55
Let the talks begin....
The Ryou Black Islands
15-10-2007, 01:00
OOC: Shazbotdom: are you going to reply to my Ambassor? and to those Satellite Pictures I sent you?
The Ryou Black Islands
15-10-2007, 01:57
Bump
Albalast
15-10-2007, 03:00
As Grand Admiral Gregar Typho's fleet approached the shazbot supper carrier an honor guard was dispatched to lead in Albalasts most capable Diplomat, Finis Valorum, Princess of Albalast, (Photo) to the peace talks. http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/c/c4/MarasiahFel.jpg
As she landed on the carrier and departed her personal Lambda-class shuttle, the Shazbot Ambassador greeted them and inspected each others honor guards, all of this with the Communist Diplomats looking on from the Carrier's Command Center with disgust. The negotiations had begun.....
Ministry of State
The Vetalian government requests permission to send officials from the Ministry of Trade to observe the negotiations and to determine whether or not the settlement will have any economic effects on our investments in the region. These officials will also help act as neutral intermediaries to ensure the negotiations are not unduly biased towards either party.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
15-10-2007, 04:51
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CommissarCam Ep. #41,643
Stoklomolvi protests the Trade Union attack largely, and will defend the Ryou Black Island's navy if required. Also, Stoklomolvi petitions for the United States of America to cease all communications with the Trade Union for their assault on one of Stoklomolvi's allies. Currently, Stoklomolvi has sent 200,000 of the Stoklomolvi Imperial Air Defence to aid in the defence of the Ryou Black Island. Stoklomolvi warns that any further invasion of Ryou will provoke the launching of one ICBM. Stoklomolvi also warns Ryou to cease their assaults and begin peace talks, else all support will cease once more.
Official Response from the United States Department of State:
The United States has no communications with the Trade Union as we do not have relations with them. Nor do we recognize them. Their actions are tantamount to piracy and terrorism and unless they cease, the US will have no choice but to add them to our list of terrorist groups. Such an action will have consequences for nations who support the Trade Union.
The Ryou Black Islands have every right to defend themselves against both terrorists and pirates. But if Ryou insists on invading Albalast or engages in harassment of neutral nation shipping, the US will have no choice but to increase aid to Albalast.
The United States recognizes the importance of peacefully resolving the situation and seels to use its position to acheive peace. We insist that Albalast attend peace talks. America also insists they cease preparations for offensive actions as such preparations are destabilizing the world community and could lead to undesirable consequences for the Ryou and the Albalasts.
Because of the irrational behavior of the two primary parties, the US proposes a meeting with the leadership of Stoklomolvi to discuss strategies to contain the war to just these two so that only their nations and their economies are effected.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
15-10-2007, 04:56
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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
URGENT MESSAGE
The Shazbotdom Empire will once again ask that a cease fire is initiated. If it is not, we will dispatch a battlefleet of 200 ships to the region to stop any and all attacks. We are currently preparing to assign all of the Tempora Heroica Class Internalized Through Deck Aircraft Carrier's into the Naval Battlegroup's that we currently have built up. This will cause the battlefleet that we will be sending up close to 215 total ships.
If the battle does not stop, we will demand that the two sides come to a table of peace. Or else we will have to intervene in a peacekeepign fashion, and I doubt both sides of the conflict want that.
The United States endorses these peace talks and will send Ambassador Willam Grey. In addition, should Albalast not agree to Shazbotdom's request for a ceasefire, the United States wholeheartedly agrees with the use of all means necessary to acquire a ceasefire whereby compelling both sides to the negotiating table. The US is willing to play a constructive supportive role should this become necessary. Total War does not benefit anyone.
America urges Albalast to join the peace talks.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
15-10-2007, 05:03
[OOC: Yeah, ok, and mine is still 24x yours, even though you're a ninth my size with four times the taxes and half the spending. Lets not turn this thread into an NSeconomy 'my un feeder's dick is bigger than yours.']
STATEMENT OF HIS MAJESTY'S COURT
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Offical message
It has reached my attention that the tiny but infinitely brave nation of Albalast, righteous and capitalist as it is, is coming under attack from nations many many many times its size: the reason? Its pure hatred of Communism. To hate Communism is no crime, just as to hate a rat that carries a disease is no crime. Communism stands against everything that our nation stands for: responsible government, capitalism, christianity, empire, and the truth of our racial superiority. Our own nation, our own sovereignty and the culture and tradition we have held to be the greatest in the world, equal to a bare handful, is too coming under assault from Marxist terrorists who wish to subvert our liberties.
It is therefore with great pleasure that I extend the hand of friendship to Albalast. Our Empire upon which the sun never sets, our people, our military, and our freedom, stands ready to aid Albalast. We cannot aid financially, as there debts to be paid, but if neccesary we will transport aircraft, troops, and supplies to Albalast to aid in their defence against the Godless Bolshevik hordes. We stand ready: ask, and you, Abalast, shall receive.
God Save the King
-Alexander II
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-King-Emperor Regnant of Questers and her Colonies
-Commander in Chief of the Questarian Navy and Questarian Army
-Defender of the Faith
-Champion of Liberty
-Patron Saint of Capitalism
-Lord of the Commonwealth realms
In light of your opposition to communism, the US offers your nation $10 billion to help pay off your national debts.
Questers
15-10-2007, 10:23
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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
To King-Emperor Regnant Alexander II of Questers and her Colonies
As of right now, the Shazbotdom Government is attempting to bring peace to this situation. Do you wish to assist in the peace talks to ensure that this conflict doesn't needlessly take any lives of innocents?
I hope to hear back from you soon.
STATEMENT OF HIS MAJESTY'S COURT
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Offical message
No. Not one step backwards, not one compromise. Crush the Marxists!
God Save the King
-Alexander II
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-King-Emperor Regnant of Questers and her Colonies
-Commander in Chief of the Questarian Navy and Questarian Army
-Defender of the Faith
-Champion of Liberty
-Patron Saint of Capitalism
-Lord of the Commonwealth realms
Official Greal Statement
Greal will endorse any peace talks that can avoid a war.
signed,
Greal Foreign Minister
Will Riddle
Stoklomolvi
15-10-2007, 20:06
[OOC: Oh so very stubborn, eh?]
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
15-10-2007, 20:58
STATEMENT OF HIS MAJESTY'S COURT
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Offical message
No. Not one step backwards, not one compromise. Crush the Marxists!
God Save the King
-Alexander II
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/Hoodtan/alex.jpg
-King-Emperor Regnant of Questers and her Colonies
-Commander in Chief of the Questarian Navy and Questarian Army
-Defender of the Faith
-Champion of Liberty
-Patron Saint of Capitalism
-Lord of the Commonwealth realms
America would prefer that Questers take a more constructive role in this situation or stay neutral.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
15-10-2007, 21:04
America sees that the Shazbotdom is not acceptable to Albalast to be hosts for the peace conference. However, Shazbotdom has the full support of the United States. As a compromise, the United States offers to allow the peace talks to occur on American territory but that Shazbotdom would still be the hosts and be in charge of directing the talks.
But first, their must be a ceasefire. If neither Ryou nor Albalast are prepared to implement a ceasefire, then they leave the international community no choice but to force one on them.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
16-10-2007, 03:15
The United States notes with alarm Ryou detonation of a nuclear device. We demand that Ryou give up its nuclear weapons program or we will have no choice but to respond aggressively.
Ryou is an aggressor nation that has attacked other nations and cannot be allowed to have nuclear weaponry.
Ryou's nuclear weapons program is a threat to peace.
TU Diplomatic Mission
16-10-2007, 23:15
Hello people i said we'ed agreed to the talks like 2 days ago does anybody pay attention?
The Beatus
16-10-2007, 23:19
The Theocracy of the Beatus notes the United States obvious warmongering and demand they stop interfering with the peace process, or we will have no choice but to respond aggressively.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
16-10-2007, 23:26
The Theocracy of the Beatus notes the United States obvious warmongering and demand they stop interfering with the peace process, or we will have no choice but to respond aggressively.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
The United States responds that Beatus hostility is not constructive.
America is pleased that the TU has responded positively toward overtures at peace.
In response, the US offers the TU nuclear weapons technology.
Stoklomolvi
16-10-2007, 23:29
Stoklomolvi greatly protests this action as hypocrisy on the part of the United States of America. First, the US of A demands for the Ryou Black Islands to dismantle their nuclear weaponry for being aggressive, and then hands over nuclear technology to the nation who STARTED the war, Albalast. Such hypocrisy is not welcomed by the Stoklomolvi government.
The Beatus
16-10-2007, 23:40
The United States responds that Beatus hostility is not constructive.
America is pleased that the TU has responded positively toward overtures at peace.
In response, the US offers the TU nuclear weapons technology.
To President Reagan,
What you say doesn't even make sense. You claim, that my nation is being hostile, when I trying to bring a peaceful resolution to this situation, of which you keep complicating by offering nuclear technology to ever one you meet. Your an idiot. I'm not trying to be offensive or anything but you really are. You seam to think that up is down and down is up. Either that or you are just acting like an idiot to provoke war which is in it self idiotic. Talking to you literally gives me a headache.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
The World Soviet Party
16-10-2007, 23:48
STATEMENT OF HIS MAJESTY'S COURT
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Offical message
No. Not one step backwards, not one compromise. Crush the Marxists!
God Save the King
-Alexander II
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/Hoodtan/alex.jpg
-King-Emperor Regnant of Questers and her Colonies
-Commander in Chief of the Questarian Navy and Questarian Army
-Defender of the Faith
-Champion of Liberty
-Patron Saint of Capitalism
-Lord of the Commonwealth realms
Official Diplomatic Communique
For some odd reason, we agree with the Questarians.
Crush the Ryous!
Just remember, LULZ is a corruption of LOL.
Logan and Ky
16-10-2007, 23:53
Official Diplomatic Communique
For some odd reason, we agree with the Questarians.
Crush the Ryous!
Just remember, LULZ is a corruption of LOL.
OOC: Um, what?! Arent you communist? This is making no sense to me; and whats the comment about LULZ? Honestly what are you talking about...
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
16-10-2007, 23:54
To President Reagan,
What you say doesn't even make sense. You claim, that my nation is being hostile, when I trying to bring a peaceful resolution to this situation, of which you keep complicating by offering nuclear technology to ever one you meet. Your an idiot. I'm not trying to be offensive or anything but you really are. You seam to think that up is down and down is up. Either that or you are just acting like an idiot to provoke war which is in it self idiotic. Talking to you literally gives me a headache.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
America notes there are two processes taking place. America involved in one, but not the other. America already has an ambassador at the Shazbotdom talks to support the TU while Ryou also has a powerful ally to support it's case at the talks. The Beatus peacetalks are not the only ones that are taking place in an attempt to end this conflict. The UnitedStates has in fact, supported all peace talks, including the ones hosted by Beatus. If the US is warlike and hostile toward Beatus then why would we be supporting all efforts to create peace, or for that matter, why would we endorse your country's hosting of a second set of peacetalks?
America has not offered nuclear weaponry to everyone, contrary to the claims of Beatus. Further, America's policy is to oppose proliferation, however, there are some situations in which sharing such technology of is the lesser of two evils.
President Reagan
USA-
The Beatus
17-10-2007, 00:04
America notes there are two processes taking place. America involved in one, but not the other. America already has an ambassador at the Shazbotdom talks to support the TU while Ryou also has a powerful ally to support it's case at the talks. The Beatus peacetalks are not the only ones that are taking place in an attempt to end this conflict. The UnitedStates has in fact, supported all peace talks, including the ones hosted by Beatus. If the US is warlike and hostile toward Beatus then why would we be supporting all efforts to create peace, or for that matter, why would we endorse your country's hosting of a second set of peacetalks?
America has not offered nuclear weaponry to everyone, contrary to the claims of Beatus. Further, America's policy is to oppose proliferation, however, there are some situations in which sharing such technology of is the lesser of two evils.
President Reagan
USA-
To President Reagan,
When did I ever say you were being aggressive toward me? Also you are attempting to sabotage these peace talks by inflaming tensions on both sides.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
The World Soviet Party
17-10-2007, 00:07
OOC: Um, what?! Arent you communist? This is making no sense to me; and whats the comment about LULZ? Honestly what are you talking about...
No, we are socialists.
And yes, we dislike (dislike being a mild term) the Ryous.
And the LULZ comment is just something I do in every thread Hatar... Ryou creates.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
17-10-2007, 00:13
To President Reagan,
When did I ever say you were being aggressive toward me? Also you are attempting to sabotage these peace talks by inflaming tensions on both sides.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
The United States is protecting the interests of the Trade Union just as the socialist nations are supporting the interests of Ryou.
You have accused the US starting this war. The fact is it was Ryou who actively invaded and attacked another nation.
I note with alarm that the socialist nations are saying it is ok for Ryou to have nukes but not for the TU to have nukes. Whether a nation should have the right to nuclear weaponry should not be based on their national ideology. But on whether they've have a history of unjust attacks on other nations, as Ryou has.
America believes the opposition to Albalast having nuclear weaponry is based only on the fact that Albalast is a capitalist nation.
The Beatus
17-10-2007, 00:28
The United States is protecting the interests of the Trade Union just as the socialist nations are supporting the interests of Ryou.
You have accused the US starting this war. The fact is it was Ryou who actively invaded and attacked another nation.
I note with alarm that the socialist nations are saying it is ok for Ryou to have nukes but not for the TU to have nukes. Whether a nation should have the right to nuclear weaponry should not be based on their national ideology. But on whether they've have a history of unjust attacks on other nations, as Ryou has.
America believes the opposition to Albalast having nuclear weaponry is based only on the fact that Albalast is a capitalist nation.
To Mr. Reagan(your arrogance has made you forfeit the title president in my eyes),
I never accused you of starting this war. I accused you of trying to derail the peace talks to end it, but not of starting it. Also I am not against Albalast having nuclear weapons. Your argument that I am so because Albalast is a capitalist nation is just plain stupidity, for I am also a capitalist nation. I just said that Albalast should figure it out for themselves, because in doing so hopefully they will learn enough about it to know when and how it should be used. My involvement in this has nothing to do with national ideology. May be you should do some more research be for you go saying thing that you don't know anything about.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
Stoklomolvi
17-10-2007, 00:31
Stoklomolvi once again curses the hypocrisy of the United States. The reason for denouncing the donation of nuclear weaponry to Albalast is because of just that; the US of A is donating nuclear weapons, one of the most potent types of weaponry in the known MT world. The reason behind the disagreement of sending the nuclear weapons is no longer the issue of capitalist or communist; it is the issue of the nuclear weapons themselves. If both sides had WMDs, and both were as simplistic as the Ryou and Albalast, surely they would overlook the possibility of MAD and would murder the world with nuclear Armageddon!
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
17-10-2007, 00:35
To Mr. Reagan(your arrogance has made you forfeit the title president in my eyes),
I never accused you of starting this war. I accused you of trying to derail the peace talks to end it, but not of starting it. Also I am not against Albalast having nuclear weapons. Your argument that I am so because Albalast is a capitalist nation is just plain stupidity, for I am also a capitalist nation. I just said that Albalast should figure it out for themselves, because in doing so hopefully they will learn enough about it to know when and how it should be used. My involvement in this has nothing to do with national ideology. May be you should do some more research be for you go saying thing that you don't know anything about.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
I remind you that the US is not giving nuclear weapons to Albalast. We are, however, providing them with $400 billion dollars to assist them with their nuclear "research". We note that other nation's have assisted Ryou in their nuclear program, going so far as to offer them fully formed nuclear weaponry.
President Reagan
USA-
The Beatus
17-10-2007, 00:43
I remind you that the US is not giving nuclear weapons to Albalast. We are, however, providing them with $400 billion dollars to assist them with their nuclear "research". We note that other nation's have assisted Ryou in their nuclear program, going so far as to offer them fully formed nuclear weaponry.
President Reagan
USA-
To Mr. Reagan,
Yes people have offered them nuclear weapons, but they tested one of they're own design. After that stage they already are said to "have" nuclear weapons. When this conversation began you were, just because you changed your mind does not change the fact that you said it. Anyway if Albalast had tested they're own nuclear weapon than we would have no problem with you selling them more.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
17-10-2007, 00:54
To Mr. Reagan,
Yes people have offered them nuclear weapons, but they tested one of they're own design. After that stage they already are said to "have" nuclear weapons. When this conversation began you were, just because you changed your mind does not change the fact that you said it. Anyway if Albalast had tested they're own nuclear weapon than we would have no problem with you selling them more.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
To Mr. Listless,
I remind you that the offer to provide Ryou with fully formed nuclear weaponry occured before they had successully tested their own nuclear weaponry. This fact mutes your argument against helping Albalast. I further remind that those offers, save Stoklomolvi's were never withdrawn whereas America is the only nation to have withdrawn an offer of fully formed nuclear weaponry.
President Reagan
USA-
The Beatus
17-10-2007, 01:05
To Mr. Listless,
I remind you that the offer to provide Ryou with fully formed nuclear weaponry occured before they had successully tested their own nuclear weaponry. This fact mutes your argument against helping Albalast. I further remind that those offers, save Stoklomolvi's were never withdrawn whereas America is the only nation to have withdrawn an offer of fully formed nuclear weaponry.
President Reagan
USA-
To Mr. Reagan,
Again you show how misinformed you are. I don't even have nuclear weapons, how could I give away what I don't have? Furthermore I didn't offer anything to Ryou in anyway shape or form neither did Ryou accept such an offer. I expected better than this from even you. Making things up to justify your own means. Very sad, very very sad.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
17-10-2007, 01:11
To Mr. Reagan,
Again you show how misinformed you are. I don't even have nuclear weapons, how could I give away what I don't have? Furthermore I didn't offer anything to Ryou in anyway shape or form neither did Ryou accept such an offer. I expected better than this from even you. Making things up to justify your own means. Very sad, very very sad.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
To Mr. Listless,
You show how misinformed you are. I did not say anywhere that you had nuclear weapons. Nor did I say you were the one providing them Ryou. Perhaps you should quit misqouting.
President Reagan
USA-
Official Statement of The Socialist Republic of Deurem
Our people laugh at the sad attempt of Albalast to create a war between the various nations in the international community. If it were not for being busy with fighting right-wing democratic rebels and their hardline Stalinists counterparts in our nation we would of involved ourselves in this circus you call a war. .
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
17-10-2007, 01:29
Stoklomolvi once again curses the hypocrisy of the United States. The reason for denouncing the donation of nuclear weaponry to Albalast is because of just that; the US of A is donating nuclear weapons, one of the most potent types of weaponry in the known MT world. The reason behind the disagreement of sending the nuclear weapons is no longer the issue of capitalist or communist; it is the issue of the nuclear weapons themselves. If both sides had WMDs, and both were as simplistic as the Ryou and Albalast, surely they would overlook the possibility of MAD and would murder the world with nuclear Armageddon!
After consultations with Stoklomolvi, the United States is withdrawing all offers of nuclear assistance to Albalast. However, given the intransigence of Ryou, should a single Ryou nuclear warhead land in Albalast or any other US ally, the United States will retaliate against Ryou in kind.
While the offer of nuclear knowledge to Albalast no longer stands, the TU is now under the nuclear protection of the USA's own nuclear weapons.
Further, the US now offers to send 5 infantry divisions to Albalast to defend it against Ryou aggression. The offer of the divisions is made in lieu of the offer of nuclear weaponry.
The Beatus
17-10-2007, 01:35
To Mr. Listless,
You show how misinformed you are. I did not say anywhere that you had nuclear weapons. Nor did I say you were the one providing them Ryou. Perhaps you should quit misqouting.
President Reagan
USA-
To Mr. Reagan,
I must apologize. For once you are right I did misunderstand what you said, but that does not change the fact that Ryou did not accept any of the weapon offers till after they tested they're own.
Stoklomolvi
17-10-2007, 01:38
Stoklomolvi has proposed that if all nations remove their backing from all nations involved in this war, namely Albalast and Ryou, then the world can be the spectators of the Capitalist-Communist War game as these two tiny nations massacre each other with clubs.
The Beatus
17-10-2007, 01:47
Stoklomolvi has proposed that if all nations remove their backing from all nations involved in this war, namely Albalast and Ryou, then the world can be the spectators of the Capitalist-Communist War game as these two tiny nations massacre each other with clubs.
I agree with part of this statement, all nations should withdraw they're support for Albalast and Ryou, but we also can't just let them kill each other. We must think of the innocent civilians that would die should any conflict happen. So along with withdrawal of support should be the encouragement of peace talks.
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His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
17-10-2007, 02:23
To Mr. Reagan,
I must apologize. For once you are right I did misunderstand what you said, but that does not change the fact that Ryou did not accept any of the weapon offers till after they tested they're own.
We agree with the fact that Ryou did not accept the offer until they had tested their own. We note, also, that Albalast never accepted our offer either.
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
17-10-2007, 02:25
The UnitedStatesofAmerica- is in agreement with the pragmatic assessment of both Stoklomolvi and Beatus.
The US will halt its support for Albalast until peace talks are concluded and urges other nations to drop their support of both Albalast and Ryou.
The Beatus
17-10-2007, 02:27
We agree with the fact that Ryou did not accept the offer until they had tested their own. We note, also, that Albalast never accepted our offer either.
To Mr. Reagan,
Ryou had already started a nuclear program when that happened. Albalast however has not started any such program, or voiced the intention to start such a program, you were attempting to force nuclear weapons on them.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
17-10-2007, 02:36
To Mr. Reagan,
Ryou had already started a nuclear program when that happened. Albalast however has not started any such program, or voiced the intention to start such a program, you were attempting to force nuclear weapons on them.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
Not force but provide. But that is now mute now that the major powers are being asked to withhold support from both nations until the conclusion of peace talks. Is it not?
The Beatus
17-10-2007, 02:41
Not force but provide. But that is now mute now that the major powers are being asked to withhold support from both nations until the conclusion of peace talks. Is it not?
To Mr. Reagan,
Yes, the context is moot, not mute as you said, but this is still an action you made and could be used to predict future actions made by you.
Form the desk of,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocracy of the Beatus
Stoklomolvi
17-10-2007, 02:43
Suggestion
Cease all debate over nuclear armaments; the crisis has been averted, and now we can focus on achieving peace after wiping out Cobra Moon, who has declared war on the United States of America. Thus, our peace talks must wait until this nuisance is gone.
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Official Trade Union Diplomatic Envoy
Hello from the Premier of the Trade Union,
It has come to my attention that our great ally and friend, the USA would like to give us Nuclear Arms, in our charter the TU clearly states that we would like to achieve our goals peacefully although we never shall back away from a fight. So in spite of my urge to accept from the US 500 Uranium Warheads, I must deny in the name of all that is good and holy. If Ryou or anybody else uses warheads against I, the International backfire will be more powerful than they can imagine. It also comes to my attention that nobody has realized we agreed to the talks like a week ago. May the Peace talks begin....
UnitedStatesOfAmerica-
18-10-2007, 06:22
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Official Trade Union Diplomatic Envoy
Hello from the Premier of the Trade Union,
It has come to my attention that our great ally and friend, the USA would like to give us Nuclear Arms, in our charter the TU clearly states that we would like to achieve our goals peacefully although we never shall back away from a fight. So in spite of my urge to accept from the US 500 Uranium Warheads, I must deny in the name of all that is good and holy. If Ryou or anybody else uses warheads against I, the International backfire will be more powerful than they can imagine. It also comes to my attention that nobody has realized we agreed to the talks like a week ago. May the Peace talks begin....
America welcomes the TU's move toward peaceful resolution of the conflict.
The US will halt its support for Albalast until peace talks are concluded and urges other nations to drop their support of both Albalast and Ryou.
I'm afraid the Holy Empire cannot withdraw their support of Ryou, medical, economic and political aid from the Empire will continue to flow into Ryou so long as the war continues. Only if Ryou declares such a disgusting war will we deny them this luxury, but now is not the case. Our support stands with Ryou and is this devolves into a nuclear war than Stevid will heap the blame on the United States of America for bringing up the dicussion of nuclear weapons in the first place.
If it comes to a nuclear war then Stevid will step in with it's own nuclear force as a trump card to stop the war. Our asrenal is huge and only a well planned single missile strike stands any chance of bypassing our missile defences. We advice the USA to discontinue the nuclear discussion at once before Ryou gets any ideas about pushing the button.
Lach-Land
18-10-2007, 09:52
lets kick some life into the communist side...
can i say mass conscriptions?