NationStates Jolt Archive


Waupaca brutally crushes liberals

Waupaca
25-09-2007, 23:58
At noon today it was announced that the President General Harold Slate sent forth elements of the army to arrest and execute any and all liberals throughout the country, as well as any real political opposition. They were taken into the streets and mowed down with automatic gunfire, then left to rot where they lay.

President Slate went on record as saying that this was a great day for Waupaca and its future, and that the executions would continue until the country was cleansed of opposition, which only seeks to undermine Waupaca's stability.

He also called on others to follow his example and rid themselves of their liberal infestation once and for all.
Dontgonearthere
26-09-2007, 00:09
While it is charming that youre hellbent on establishing some sort of dictatorship, we strongly suggest disposing of the bodies after your intended massacres. While it is impressive to pile up corpses, it is also extremly unhygenic and often results in very unpleasant diseases.
We are quite aware that 'you can always get more people' and such, but you should know that people take some time to grow back and all, and until they do your economy and military will both suffer from manpower shortages.
I'll yield the floor to the much more important messages with fancy headers you'll be getting shortly, no doubt most of these will be along the lines of 'SURRENDER OR DIE BY ORDER OF THE EMPIRE OF BOB, PREPARE TO BECOME OUR PROTECTORATE.'
Really, there are lots of bored people out there with big guns. You should be more careful about what you broadcast.

Dont die,
Tsar Pavel VI of Dontgonearthere.
Alborio
26-09-2007, 00:13
We congratulate you on purging the infadel from your state and hope that you may make a morally sound state.
Akimonad
26-09-2007, 00:18
Open Declaration

The Autocratic Federated Empire condemns the actions of Waupaca most strongly. We suggest they cease their actions immediately before they face the consequences. Genocide will not be tolerated.

~Dr. Jules Hodz
Waupaca
26-09-2007, 00:21
Open Declaration

The Autocratic Federated Empire condemns the actions of Waupaca most strongly. We suggest they cease their actions immediately before they face the consequences. Genocide will not be tolerated.

~Dr. Jules Hodz

It is the position of the Waupaca government that as a sovereign nation, we can do as we please within our own lands. These undesirables have been removed from our society, which can only live in peace when there is no more unrest. We think it wise if you stay out of our business, because we don't interfere with yours.

President Slate
Central Prestonia
26-09-2007, 00:27
Official Prestonian Statement

The Prestonian Republic condemns in highest possible terms the ruthless political cleansing your nation is undertaking. You have 48 hours to recant before the Prestonian Armed Forces destroy your rabble of madmen that seems to pass for a government and install one more friendly to human rights.

In utmost Seriousness,
Justin M. Gannon
President, Republic of Prestonia
Vice-Chairman, Prestonian Democratic Party
Order of the Republic, First Class
Vontanas
26-09-2007, 00:30
As a fellow Empire, we can tell you that sovereignty has a different meaning to those who are imperial than those who aren't. NatSov is a tool used for the benifit of imperialists, and disvarded when inconvenient. Surrender to Akimonad's demands, else.
Caelapes
26-09-2007, 00:31
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Official Communiqué - Federation of Caelapes - Ministry of Foreign Affairs

To the President-General of Waupaca:

Your blatant human rights violations truly show the disgusting, petty government of your Presidency. That a nation would sink so low as to murder its political opponents is nauseating enough on its own, but for a nation to be... proud of genocide is the height of barbarism.

We stand by the declaration of our ally, Akimonad. Cease all political freedoms and human rights violations before we are forced to bring an end to your reign.

Dum spiramus tuebimur.

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The Rt. Hon. Richard Whitney, MP
Prime Minister, Federation of Caelapes

The Hon. Davide Roussimoff, MP
Minister for Foreign Affairs, Federation of Caelapes
Akimonad
26-09-2007, 00:33
It is the position of the Waupaca government that as a sovereign nation, we can do as we please within our own lands. These undesirables have been removed from our society, which can only live in peace when there is no more unrest. We think it wise if you stay out of our business, because we don't interfere with yours.

President Slate

The genocide of hundreds of people because of their political opinions is not a justification we will accept.

Of course, genocide transcends national boundaries, as does political affiliations.

On behalf of the United Federation of Allied Nations, I condemn the actions of Waupaca in the highest possible manner. Cease immediately or face destruction.

~Dr. Jules Hodz,
First Minister
Ordo Drakul
26-09-2007, 00:33
While it is nice to see One has the courage of One's convictions, it was a rash act on Your Part. While it is not Ordo Drakul's place to instruct You on how to administrate Your Nation, We do feel one or two liberals should have been allowed to survive on display that You would never forget them and what they represented.
Congratulations on Your first steps to Utopia.
New Brittonia
26-09-2007, 00:34
New Brittonia wishes to establish diplomatic relations, and exchange embassies with, the nation of Wapuca.
Aurum Domus
26-09-2007, 00:36
Diplomatic Message To Waupaca From The Armed Republic

Genocide will not be tolerated in any way, shape, or form anywhere in the world. Cease these actions or the Aurum Doman airforce will bomb your country to rubble.

Sincerely,
High General Samuel Oron
Imperial isa
26-09-2007, 00:41
New Brittonia wishes to establish diplomatic relations, and exchange embassies with, the nation of Wapuca.

OOC i would say is that wise seeing they going to get attacked
Waupaca
26-09-2007, 00:44
Waupaca does not bow to the threats of outsiders, and we again cite our right to self determination. Once my status reports are updated by my officers and I am satisfied with the progress, only then will I order them to stand down. Waupaca does not care for your ultimatums, nor will our future be influenced by anything you have to say. Peace is nearly upon us, do not do anything to put that at risk.

And I think it's hilarious how it takes an entire alliance of you people to issue these kinds of threats against me. Quite pathetic actually how none of you have the spine to bark at me by yourself. But anyways, we would gladly exchange embassies with New Brittonia.

President Slate

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Though Waupaca lacked any sort of real coast as the result of being a landlocked nation, the numerous mountain passes that lead into the heartland of the nation were locked down in case of enemy attack. Lacking any kind of real air force, the military instead relied on anti-air missile batteries and landmines to secure itself against foreign aggression, while troops began taking up defensive positions. The massive ice sheet to the north would be impassible especially now that winter was in full force, while the east and west coasts were large and treacherous mountains that reached high into the sky. That left only a vulnerable south, whos hills were not nearly as steep but were equally as hazardous.

The streets were quiet after the liberal slaughter was finished, and un-uniformed soldiers began stocking weapons and ammo throughout the major cities of Waupaca in order to prepare for a guerrilla war should the heathen coalition choose to come.
Mizth-Sonika
26-09-2007, 00:46
Mizth-Sonika stands by the country of Waupaca and belives it's their right to dictate their country how they desire, including eradicating thoes that go against values.
Caelapes
26-09-2007, 00:46
Secret IC - Invercargill Harbor, British Londinium

After the last VBL was returned to its spot within the large Foudre-class landing platform of the Caelapene Aeronavy, hatches were pulled shut and the ships pushed off, slowly easing out toward the open ocean. The rest of the First Fleet waited out in the open ocean. As the landing ships approached, the fleet began to move together, circling around the vulnerable carriers. The fleet would rendezvous with the Eighth Extended Campaign Supply Group on its way to Waupacian territory and then, providing political pressures had failed, would lay seige to Waupaca.
Akimonad
26-09-2007, 00:56
Heusen Air Force Base

The klaxon in the base began sounding loudly. Pilots who were reclining jumped up and ran to their planes.

Within thirty minutes, two hundred B-2s had been prepared with MOAB bombs and incendiaries.

They were to be escorted by three hundred F-22s.

The officer standing at the end of the taxiway began directing them for takeoff.

The two fleets met in the air and continued towards this rogue nation called "Waupaca".

It would take them a few hours. A piece of cake with aerial refueling.

Open Declaration

Stand down immediately or face utter destruction. Your national sovereignty will be useless when you haven't a nation.
Murra
26-09-2007, 00:57
[Encrypted Message]

The Collectivist Oligarchy of Murra wishes to support Waupaca in its endeavours to fight off foreign aggression. To that end, we will deploy military forces to assist you in your struggle against the foreign imperialists, provided you agree of course. Due to funding provided by the Noble House of Kasugin, several mobile army units and an aerial brigade are on standby for immediate deployment if you give the word.

-- Alexei Kadarin
Senior Oligarch of Murra
Chief Commissar of the Greater Soviet
New Brittonia
26-09-2007, 00:57
OOC i would say is that wise seeing they going to get attacked

OOC: Wait for it. . .

New Brittonian Embassy, Wapuca---

"Come on!", ambassador Peter Jackson yelled, "Lives are at stake here!"
Ambassador Peter Jackson, formerly with the Ministry of National Service bore little resemblance to the Peter Jackson who dorected the Lord of the Rings movies, except he, also was grollsy obese.

"We need to hustle, men", he was yelling at the New Brittonian Marine contigent,
"Lives are at stake, I wiill not let another life go because of politics. . . OR INCOMPETENCE!"

Hundreds of Wapucians were gathering around the embassy's gates.
"At the sound of three, we open the gates, one. . . two. . . three!"

The gates were open. The people began to swarm into the embassy compound.

Ambassador Jackson's voice was heard on a megaphone, it was saying,
"All Wapucian nationals, please register at the front office to be granted emergency political refugee visas. Guards, close the doors now before we create another incident."
Waupaca
26-09-2007, 00:58
Open Declaration

Stand down immediately or face utter destruction. Your national sovereignty will be useless when you haven't a nation.

So, you would stop us by killing our entire population? HA! How completely hypocritical of you, because we do not plan on fighting you head on. Your air and naval power will be useless.

I hope you realize that you are about to attack an almost entirely landlocked nation with mountains so high your pilots will not be able to fly without stalling. Our soldiers will blend in and disappear within the populace, and you will find nothing but death in Waupaca. Turn back now before you become bogged down in a war so bloody and brutal that your people will revolt before we ever surrender!

President Slate
Jaredcohenia
26-09-2007, 01:00
To the nations of Akimonad, Central Prestonia, the Federation of Caelapes, and the Armed Republic of Aurum Domus:

Foreign Ministry of the Imperium
Hail Cohenia!

People in your nation sicken me. You see the nation of Waupaca; a new, confused nation which has recently placed itself on the international stage. You dislike their actions, and I must agree my nation and myself will condemn the genocide, and henceforth proclaim that until they stop you will destroy their nation and the various foundations your nations lie on. I might just be a twenty something girl, but may I ask who are you to be the self-proclaimed world police and determine what's right and what's wrong in itself? Waupaca never asked you to deem her nation's actions appropriate or wrong, yet you find it your own glory to say "Fuck you, stop or else I'll make your nation into a festering sore on the crust of Earth!"

Listen to what I'm writing, stop your haughty threats to Waupaca. Should you attack them and, to quote the people of Aurum Domus, "bomb your country to rubble", are you not doing the same barbaric actions and 'human rights' violations they are committing? You're destroying an entire population simply because you dislike their actions. Are you not perpetrating genocide yourselves?

If this is too long and you didn't read, I will paraphrase my entire discussion: don't attack them in the name of righting wrongs; two wrongs certainly don't make a right.

Sincerely,

Her Imperial Highness the Crown Princess Kristin Ferrin
Foreign Minister
Dontgonearthere
26-09-2007, 01:00
Waupaca does not bow to the threats of outsiders, and we again cite our right to self determination. Once my status reports are updated by my officers and I am satisfied with the progress, only then will I order them to stand down. Waupaca does not care for your ultimatums, nor will our future be influenced by anything you have to say. Peace is nearly upon us, do not do anything to put that at risk.

And I think it's hilarious how it takes an entire alliance of you people to issue these kinds of threats against me. Quite pathetic actually how none of you have the spine to bark at me by yourself. But anyways, we would gladly exchange embassies with New Brittonia.

President Slate



Hey, we were just giving you some advice. Stacks of corpses rotting in the street wont help your citizens health, and your soldiers wading through partially decomposed flesh in your streets certainly wont improve their health OR morale.
Tsar Pavel VI of Dontgonearthere

Encrypted P.S.
On a side note, we'd be pleased to do business with you in terms of, lets say, much improved armaments for your military forces. For defensive purposes, of course. We happen to have a large surplus of slightly dated but still quite effective weapons and some experience shipping to...politically entangled countries.
Aurum Domus
26-09-2007, 01:00
Aboard the Aequoreus

Marines were being briefed below deck for their mission. After the bombing by Akimonad, the Marines would parachute in and crush any remaining soldiers. It was a simple plan and would probably be a walk in the park for the Marines. To them, invading a small nation was like a paid vacation.
Akimonad
26-09-2007, 01:05
mountains so high your pilots will not be able to fly without stalling.

OOC: I seriously doubt that.

Would you prefer I just use space assets?
Waupaca
26-09-2007, 01:07
OOC: I seriously doubt that.

Would you prefer I just use space assets?

OOC: Against a 1 day old nation? Wow.....
:rolleyes:
Murra
26-09-2007, 01:07
OOC: I seriously doubt that.

[OOC:] Propaganda usually sounds rather outlandish. Don't take it too literally, OOCly at least.
Waupaca
26-09-2007, 01:10
I'm not new at this, no need to lecture me or anything.

IC:

The bombers had managed to reach Waupaca. They began dropping their bombs onto the land.

Shortly behind them would be numerous planes filled with paratroopers.

OOC: Godmod much? Thanks for letting me defend....
New Brittonia
26-09-2007, 01:16
Six Bell 212 helecopters took off from the embassy, a message was relayed to Wapucan, Akimonadi, and Aurum Domus military authorities:

New Brittonian helecopters, property of Foreign Ministry. DO NOT ATTACK
Akimonad
26-09-2007, 01:16
OOC: Godmod much? Thanks for letting me defend....

Apologies.

*makes note to stop posting when tired*
Caelapes
26-09-2007, 01:20
Secret IC - Rendezvous Point BUNGIE
2200 hrs

The massive Caelapene fleet sat, on guard and weapons bristling, in the cool of the oceanic night. The dim lights of the Eighth Extended Campaign Supply Group blinked lazily on the horizon as they approached. A crisp breeze blew over the ships, allowing the Caelapene Aeronaval Jack to flap proudly above the ANC Tueor. The flag of British Londinium had been taken down after the fleet had exited Londinian waters.

After a short period of waiting, the Eighth finally arrived at the fleet and began offloading its supplies of rations, medicines, and armament. The exchange had finished by 0530, and the two fleets separated. As the sun broke over the horizon, the First Fleet was again moving, lumbering towards its target.

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Official Communiqué - Federation of Caelapes - Ministry of Foreign Affairs

To the Cohenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

Your comments are immature, insulting, and rude. Not only do you treat international diplomacy as a mere spat between two boisterous teenagers by suggesting that our actions are as crude or blatant as to say, "Fuck you," to a foreign nation, but you also put words in our mouths and claim that we plan to destroy their nation utterly and that we proclaim ourselves the world police. Never has the Federation of Caelapes made such a claim, and we are insulted that the Cohenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs lacks the tact or eloquence to prevent itself from making such outrageous claims before they are sent.

We will not end our sanctions, campaigns, or actions against the nation of Waupaca. Our soldiers are not barbarians; rather, it appears that it is the Cohenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs that is the more barbaric. We take offense to the suggestion that the Federation of Caelapes or its allies would, and we quote, "destroy an entire population simply because [we] dislike their actions." The foreign policy of the Federation of Caelapes has never been as such and it still is not -- we are acting on the behalf of the voiceless, the oppressed, and the murdered.

While we will cede that two wrongs do not make a right, allowing a wrong, especially one so grievous as this one, to continue is by and large the worse of two evils.

Dum spiramus tuebimur.

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The Rt. Hon. Richard Whitney, MP
Prime Minister, Federation of Caelapes

The Hon. Davide Roussimoff, MP
Minister for Foreign Affairs, Federation of Caelapes
Murra
26-09-2007, 01:21
Yuri Markovich is just one of many officers at Gdansk Space Command. His work is never all too interesting; it fascinated him twenty years ago, when he first enlisted in the military division, but by now he has become jaded and is mentally counting down the years until he can retire on a nice pension. Today, however, he has received orders of a kind he had not seen in years. First of all, the Space Command is to direct its satellites to pay closer attention to the small nation of Waupaca and a growing list of its attackers. All officers are to maintain a close watch on the satellite feeds and indicate any occurrences. Within a few hours, Markovich watches as a fleet of large airplanes arrives relatively close to Waupacan airspace. Almost immediately new orders come in from the Upper Echelons.

"Execute order 27 on all Aki space assets. Execute order 33 on Aki aircraft."

Markovich whistles. This is a definitive act of war; and there has been no major conflict in Murra since the Revolution. He keys in a few buttons, relaying the order; disobeying would be pointless, after all.

In space, a hundred Murran weapons satellites turn and, with an eerie soundlessness, launch thousands of small tungsten projectiles across the void of space towards the Akimonadi (?) satellites at hypersonic velocities. The tungsten projectiles are notable for a) ripping through solar panels, computer screens, antennae and the like and b) being quite difficult to intercept via conventional methods. A hundred more satellites turn their attentions to the bombers and transports.

The SLAM is one of Murra's more inventive weapons of devastation. It is a satellite-launched anti-air missile; not exactly an original concept, and definitely not a cheap one, but one made possible by advances in modern technology. Each of these satellites launches a few missiles, enough so that there are two SLAMs for every one of the larger planes; upon drifting into the atmosphere, their ramjet engines kick off to propel them to Mach 4 as their guidance picks out and pushes them towards targets.

Meanwhile, ground-based batteries of all kinds and a further fusillade of weapons satellites are preparing for the inevitable counterattack. Akimonad will not be happy.
Iribathea
26-09-2007, 01:21
Salutations, President Slate,

We too are a new nation and though I abhor the manner by which you choose to squander your human resources, I am committed to your right as a nation to do as you desire within your territory.

My nation is small but I would like to offer the assistance of our military in this coming storm.


Joseph Garbutt
High King of Iribathea
Aurum Domus
26-09-2007, 01:23
OOC: Murra, how do am godmod?
Calizorinstan
26-09-2007, 01:25
SIC:

March AFB,
Calitannia Province.

100 FB-22s, 250 Sik-7 Fighters, and 250 F-40 Birds of Prey were starting to move from their positions on the flightline to prepare for an attack on Waupaca, also 24 KC-135 Stratotankers were starting up, in order to go to the refueling points that had been set up for the fighters.

100 B-52 Stratofortress's powered up, fully loaded with bombs, ready to attack Waupaca if they did not stand down.

IC:
Open Declaration to the Waupacan Government

Your actions disgust us, we cannot believe you would stoop down to Stalinist-type purges in order to "cleanse" the nation. We've seen these types of actions before committed by nations, but yours disgusts us the most. We demand that you step down from your current position of "Take us on, we can handle you", and also that you stop persecuting the liberals, as they pose no credible threat to your government as we see it.

We stand by our fellow UFAN members, we will not hesitate to send units to your nation and remove your government from power, so that your nation may have a free government, not a tyranical government!

Sic Semper tyrannis!

We wish a response ASAP, or we will assume that you will not change your ways.

President Jack R.Arnold
Calizorinstan
Taerkasten
26-09-2007, 01:30
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Tromek
26-09-2007, 01:31
To: The Current Governement of Waupaca

Firstly, let me express my views that the Incorporated States of Tromek DOES NOT wish to get involved in the running of the Soverign State of Waupaca.

However, with your somewhat tactless announcement of the purging of your country, we have noticed that you have drawn the ire of quite a few powerful nations. The Incorporated States of Tromek has quite a large force available for hire, with the best equipment and training money can buy.

If you, the government of Waupaca, would be interested in acquiring the "loyalty" of this force, merely reply and we will discuss the terms.

Good luck in all of your ventures, regardless of what you decide.

Vergil Causann
CEO of Tromek Federal Corp.
Incorporated States of Tromek
Waupaca
26-09-2007, 01:31
President Arnold, we will not bow to your threats. Your air power is useless, for you will have nothing to bomb but civilian installations, which you'll avoid unless you want the international community to come down on you. We don't plan on fighting you heads up, so your efforts are wasted. For every inch of our soil you take, it will be stainded with the blood of your pathetic soldiers.

We are considering contacting bigger, more powerful nations to protect us since this 'UFAN' insists on bringing their imperialism to our doorstep.

I advise YOU to stand down before you all are humiliated at Waupacan hands.

President Slate
Murra
26-09-2007, 01:31
OOC: Murra, how do am godmod?

[OOC:] I dunno, ask someone who does it more! ;)

Given that I wrote that post in about five minutes, tired as hell, while working on something else, without electricity, in a foxhole, in Sudan, I probably need to redo a few bits of it (especially the "effectively ripping the satellites apart" thingy). Otherwise, it ought to be legit.
New Brittonia
26-09-2007, 01:33
Ambassador Jackson said to a Marine,
"Okay, we have our first group out, OPEN THE DOORS!"
Calizorinstan
26-09-2007, 01:37
President Arnold, we will not bow to your threats. Your air power is useless, for you will have nothing to bomb but civilian installations, which you'll avoid unless you want the international community to come down on you. We don't plan on fighting you heads up, so your efforts are wasted. For every inch of our soil you take, it will be stainded with the blood of your pathetic soldiers.

We are considering contacting bigger, more powerful nations to protect us since this 'UFAN' insists on bringing their imperialism to our doorstep.

I advise YOU to stand down before you all are humiliated at Waupacan hands.

President Slate


We will send our naval forces if need be, and you might want to watch your mouth. I am not a man that likes war, but I will do as I must. If you don't stop this form of systematic slaughtering that you call "Cleansing" you will be brought to bear the full strength of the UFAN alliance. I have several big friends too, which I can easily call upon to stop this once and for all.

I would counter your advising me to stand down, with "Hasta la vista President Slate." I didn't want to fight you, but you leave me with not much choice in this matter.

I implore you to at least exile the liberals instead of killing them off, if you don't agree to that, I am afraid there is little I can do. I am getting sick of this bickering.

You may regret your actions,

Signed

President Jack R.Arnold
Calizorinstan
Murra
26-09-2007, 01:38
[Encrypted Message]

The Collectivist Oligarchy of Murra wishes to support Waupaca in its endeavours to fight off foreign aggression. To that end, we will deploy military forces to assist you in your struggle against the foreign imperialists, provided you agree of course. Due to funding provided by the Noble House of Kasugin, several mobile army units and an aerial brigade are on standby for immediate deployment if you give the word.

-- Alexei Kadarin
Senior Oligarch of Murra
Chief Commissar of the Greater Soviet

[OOC:] Reposting in case you missed it.
Jaredcohenia
26-09-2007, 01:41
Foreign Ministry of the Imperium
Hail Cohenia!

First of all, I can't say I understand latin that well. Did you just say you wanted to wedge yourself in between my breasts? If so, I am highly/B] offended by you and must say you and your people are barbarians.

Acting upon the 'voiceless, oppressed, and murdered' means you are indeed world police. No one asked you to act upon them, you take it upon yourself to right the wrongs of the world. I am also quite offended by you calling me a teenager, I am twenty years old and my teenage days are done. I'm in college, like not in high school, ya know? Hold on...just got a text. It was my dad, being a total groan. I'm twenty and still have a curfew, what bullshit is that? Lemme text Lauren and tell her this stuff...

Also, you [B]will end your mightier-than-thou campaign of destruction in Waupaca immediately. Your nation is making outrageous claims that this nation is violating human rights and the like. I'm quite certain that Waupaca isn't in the United Nations or signed any sort of treaty that defined human rights. You may feel that genocide violates human rights, those are your nation's views on human rights and your nation's views alone. The views of your nation's human rights and the rights of mine might be that in my nation, humans have the right to be healthy and yours might deem human rights to be humans have the right to be tasty.

Back down on your impedement on Waupacan sovereignity. You are not any better than this nation, and the nation has her own rights.

Sincerely,

Her Imperial Highness the Crown Princess Kristin Ferrin
Foreign Minister
Akimonad
26-09-2007, 01:42
SpaceCom

"Satellites just went dead."

"Goddammit. Counterattack whatever caused it."

Hundreds, thousands of ASATs roared from silos and launch rails to any Murran space assets.

Meanwhile, in the air, the B-2s and F-22s were unaffected by missiles that could not withstand the heat of reentry.
(I've asked around and this is what I've been told would happen.)
Waupaca
26-09-2007, 01:45
We will send our naval forces if need be, and you might want to watch your mouth. I am not a man that likes war, but I will do as I must. If you don't stop this form of systematic slaughtering that you call "Cleansing" you will be brought to bear the full strength of the UFAN alliance. I have several big friends too, which I can easily call upon to stop this once and for all.

I would counter your advising me to stand down, with "Hasta la vista President Slate." I didn't want to fight you, but you leave me with not much choice in this matter.

I implore you to at least exile the liberals instead of killing them off, if you don't agree to that, I am afraid there is little I can do. I am getting sick of this bickering.

You may regret your actions,

Signed

President Jack R.Arnold
Calizorinstan

I'm guess your navy will have fun attacking a landlocked nation. If this is the kind of foresight your military possesses, then I'm sure our victory will come that much easier.

And for the record, we are in contact with several known superpowers, and I'm sure if we made them a good enough offer they'd support us. BUT, I'm confident we can defend our nation ourselves.

President Slate
Calizorinstan
26-09-2007, 01:48
I'm guess your navy will have fun attacking a landlocked nation. If this is the kind of foresight your military possesses, then I'm sure our victory will come that much easier.

And for the record, we are in contact with several known superpowers, and I'm sure if we made them a good enough offer they'd support us. BUT, I'm confident we can defend our nation ourselves.

President Slate

That is why I said "If need be.", I am in contact with two alliances with regarding to this matter, we will, and shall if you don't back down which I know you won't at this point, eradicate your nation from the world scene. But I would be glad if you saw the error of your ways and stopped your "slaughter pen" type operation.

I am not yet as sure of how many people both sides have, but I will hope this will be a victory for democracy.

I am going to have to treat your messages as a provocation of war if you don't cease and desist from your actions.

President Jack R.Arnold
Calizorinstan
Deurem
26-09-2007, 01:48
Offical Statement of The Socialist Republic of Deurem

Though we may deem you actions 'unjust' we believe that no other nation has the right to do what they seem fit against another country. What you do is no one's business and as such we are willing to help defend your nation if you wish.


SIC: A carrier battle group is being readied to deploy near Waupaca and use its aircraft for you air defense.

President Marques Ramone
Akimonad
26-09-2007, 01:52
Foreign Ministry of the Imperium
Hail Cohenia!

First of all, I can't say I understand latin that well. Did you just say you wanted to wedge yourself in between my breasts? If so, I am highly/B] offended by you and must say you and your people are barbarians.

Acting upon the 'voiceless, oppressed, and murdered' means you are indeed world police. No one asked you to act upon them, you take it upon yourself to right the wrongs of the world. I am also quite offended by you calling me a teenager, I am twenty years old and my teenage days are done. I'm in college, like not in high school, ya know? Hold on...just got a text. It was my dad, being a total groan. I'm twenty and still have a curfew, what bullshit is that? Lemme text Lauren and tell her this stuff...

Also, you [B]will end your mightier-than-thou campaign of destruction in Waupaca immediately. Your nation is making outrageous claims that this nation is violating human rights and the like. I'm quite certain that Waupaca isn't in the United Nations or signed any sort of treaty that defined human rights. You may feel that genocide violates human rights, those are your nation's views on human rights and your nation's views alone. The views of your nation's human rights and the rights of mine might be that in my nation, humans have the right to be healthy and yours might deem human rights to be humans have the right to be tasty.

Back down on your impedement on Waupacan sovereignity. You are not any better than this nation, and the nation has her own rights.

Sincerely,

Her Imperial Highness the Crown Princess Kristin Ferrin
Foreign Minister

Wait, so Waupaca can do what they want, but we can't?

No. No, no, no.

And since when were you in charge?

~Dr. Jules Hodz
Calizorinstan
26-09-2007, 01:53
SIC:

San Diego Naval Harbor,
Calizorinstan

The 5th Fleet and 6th Fleet was preparing to sail out for Waupaca, which even though was landlocked, they would pick a point some distance from the coast (140 miles from it) that would separate Waupaca from the sea, and thus that point could be used to project the airpower inland.

The ships consisted of:

12 x Champion Class Supercarriers*
8 x Whirlwind Class Supercarriers*
4 x Nemesis Class Supercarriers*
20 x Ajax Class Battleships*
96 x Arsenal Class Missile Cruisers*
80 x Daring Air Defense Destroyers
16 x Hobart Class Air Defense Destroyers
96 x Zumwalt Class Missile Destroyers
48 x Brandenburg Class ASW Frigates
96 x Allegro Class Attack Submarines*
28 x Ohio Class Ballistic Missile Submarines
Iribathea
26-09-2007, 01:55
That is why I said "If need be.", I am in contact with two alliances with regarding to this matter, we will, and shall if you don't back down which I know you won't at this point, eradicate your nation from the world scene. But I would be glad if you saw the error of your ways and stopped your "slaughter pen" type operation.

I am not yet as sure of how many people both sides have, but I will hope this will be a victory for democracy.

I am going to have to treat your messages as a provocation of war if you don't cease and desist from your actions.

President Jack R.Arnold
Calizorinstan


Salutations, President Arnold,

A victory for democracy eh? We are not a democracy nor do we have a desire to become one. As I understand things... in a democracy the will of the people is paramount, aye? Long ago my people chose this system of government and as "enlightened monarchs" my ancestors have ruled with benevolence and kindness. We would not have it any other way.

I urge you to be cautious in your words for not everyone believes that "democracy" is the best manner by which to rule.

Waupaca is a sovereign nation. I pose this to you: What if the shoe were on the other foot and Waupaca had the larger military force and she wanted to force you to adopt her system of government? Do you not see the injustice here?

Whilst we condemn the actions of Waupaca, we also condemn the repsonse from your nation. No nation has the right to infringe upon the sovereignty of another nation. The Kingdom of Iribathea pledges her support to the government of Waupaka.

Signed,
Joseph Garbutt
High King of Iribathea
Azaeria
26-09-2007, 01:56
He also called on others to follow his example and rid themselves of their liberal infestation once and for all.

The Kingdom of Azaeria follows in your example (slightly less crude), we have dispatched our secret police to make all liberals *disappear* :sniper:

We entirely back the nation on its decision and will send troops to intervene if necessary.
Iribathea
26-09-2007, 01:57
Wait, so Waupaca can do what they want, but we can't?

No. No, no, no.

And since when were you in charge?

~Dr. Jules Hodz

Within her territorial boundaries, we believe Waupaca can do as they desire. We would just as quickly come to your defense should your sovereign rights be desecrated.

Signed,
High King Joseph Garbutt of Iribathea
Calizorinstan
26-09-2007, 01:59
Salutations, President Arnold,

A victory for democracy eh? We are not a democracy nor do we have a desire to become one. As I understand things... in a democracy the will of the people is paramount, aye? Long ago my people chose this system of government and as "enlightened monarchs" my ancestors have ruled with benevolence and kindness. We would not have it any other way.

I urge you to be cautious in your words for not everyone believes that "democracy" is the best manner by which to rule.

Waupaca is a sovereign nation. I pose this to you: What if the shoe were on the other foot and Waupaca had the larger military force and she wanted to force you to adopt her system of government? Do you not see the injustice here?

Whilst we condemn the actions of Waupaca, we also condemn the repsonse from your nation. No nation has the right to infringe upon the sovereignty of another nation. The Kingdom of Iribathea pledges her support to the government of Waupaka.

Signed,
Joseph Garbutt
High King of Iribathea


We did not want to infringe on her sovereignty, but Slate's despicable actions called for us to prevent genocide as he was committing it. The UFAN Charter calls for the members to prevent genocide, even if you have to violate a nation's sovereignty to do so.

How would you feel if you were one of the people getting shot and left to rot in the street, or if you were family. I must say, my nation will do as it must, to quote Obi-Wan.

I don't want to force Waupaca to be a democracy, heck, she could be a dictatorship for all I cared. But it is the actions of the leader that makes me worried, after the liberals are "Cleansed", what next?.

Sincerely,

President Jack.R Arnold
Calizorinstan
Murra
26-09-2007, 02:02
[OOC:] I should have been more clear. They're delivered via MIRV style capsules so that they won't burn up in the atmosphere. Thus, mini-satellites would drop into low earth orbit or the upper atmosphere and release a few missiles apiece. I assume that's possible.

Of course, since I didn't specify this at all, it makes it seem awfully like the satellites launched the missiles without the reentry vehicles. Therefore, I might get lucky and hit you with some blazing debris but otherwise not much chance.

Missiles are not quite so useful for killing satellites as the Murran tungsten projectiles. They can be intercepted; and indeed, flechettes are launched and THELs begin to heat up. Even before the point defence mechanisms kick in, other satellites are launching their brilliant pebbles against the incoming missiles. But no defence system is perfect. In miniature explosions, satellites begin to vanish from the face of the sky.

But there is a deeper crisis at Gdansk Space Command. Markovich watches in horror as the missiles he ordered launched disintegrate into fireballs long before reaching their targets. What went wrong? He tries it again with another satellite: select a target, send the initiate command, launch the vehicle, set the timer for the vehicle to deploy the missiles.... But here his brow furrows. The satellite simply launches its missiles, completely ignoring the reentry vehicle. He runs a quick inventory on the satellite. It was installed without its reentry vehicle.

He curses aloud, then runs another inventory on all Murran SLAM satellites. Of hundreds (about 374; formerly about 420, but the numbers were evidently depleted by the Akimonad counterattack), only about sixty were actually launched into space complete with reentry vehicles. He knows that this is due to bureaucratic cost-cutting and mismanagement of the economy, but he also knows that it will invariably be blamed on Elbanist rebels or foreign spies, and therefore keeps quiet. Just when he needed the damn things the most, too.

Stifling his disappointment, he keys in the command for the 62 fully equipped satellites to launch their reentry vehicles. It equates to 248 missiles; not even one for each attacking aircraft, but in the situation it is the best that can be managed. The vehicles enter the atmosphere, deploy their missiles, and from there the program runs relatively smoothly (although at least two missiles go completely off course due to minor flaws in the construction, and another one explodes prematurely). Primarily targeted, of course, are the bombers.
Iribathea
26-09-2007, 02:06
We did not want to infringe on her sovereignty, but Slate's despicable actions called for us to prevent genocide as he was committing it. The UFAN Charter calls for the members to prevent genocide, even if you have to violate a nation's sovereignty to do so.

How would you feel if you were one of the people getting shot and left to rot in the street, or if you were family. I must say, my nation will do as it must, to quote Obi-Wan.

I don't want to force Waupaca to be a democracy, heck, she could be a dictatorship for all I cared. But it is the actions of the leader that makes me worried, after the liberals are "Cleansed", what next?.

Sincerely,

President Jack.R Arnold
Calizorinstan


Salutations, President Arnold,

Military aggression is your first response to something such as this? Waupaca is a small nation. There are other ways to resolve international crisis other than war.

It is the opinion of the Kingdom of Iribathea that war is an instrument of last resort.

You may not agree with the actions of Waupaca's leaders but that is not for you or anyone else to decide. It is an internal matter to Waupaca. Your mandate to lead is a mandate to lead Calizorinstan just as my mandate is to lead Iribibathea.

Once again, we condemn your military response in this matter. We call upon you to stand down your forces and engage in diplomacy.

We are not in the dark ages.

Signed,
High King Joseph Garbutt of Iribathea
Calizorinstan
26-09-2007, 02:12
Salutations, President Arnold,

Military aggression is your first response to something such as this? Waupaca is a small nation. There are other ways to resolve international crisis other than war.

It is the opinion of the Kingdom of Iribathea that war is an instrument of last resort.

You may not agree with the actions of Waupaca's leaders but that is not for you or anyone else to decide. It is an internal matter to Waupaca. Your mandate to lead is a mandate to lead Calizorinstan just as my mandate is to lead Iribibathea.

Once again, we condemn your military response in this matter. We call upon you to stand down your forces and engage in diplomacy.

We are not in the dark ages.

Signed,
High King Joseph Garbutt of Iribathea


I tried diplomacy, however small it may've been. I tried, other's tried, and it failed!, you may disagree with that, and you may disagree with my doctrine, but I must lead my nation to victory, and to peace above all.

I will try diplomacy one more time for your sake.

Signed,
President Jack R.Arnold


To:Waupaca
From:President Arnold

I wish to hold a diplomatic discussion in my nation, I have seen some err in my ways of a miltary action. I wish to hold a meeting in San Diego to discuss a more peaceful way.

President Jack R. Arnold
Calizorinstan
Akimonad
26-09-2007, 02:17
OOC: Murra: Do these missiles have a conventional or nuclear warhead, and what's the yield?
Waupaca
26-09-2007, 02:18
President Arnold, such a meeting isn't necessary. Waupaca's policy in regards to other nations is to stay out of their way so long as they stay out of ours. As long as this is respected, then war will be averted. In regards to the cleansing of the infidel liberals...they had it coming, and they deserved to die. My country is a much better place now that they are dead, and should they cause trouble again we will continue smashing them.

Now, if you don't mind I have much more pressing matters to deal with.

President Slate
Calizorinstan
26-09-2007, 02:21
President Arnold, such a meeting isn't necessary. Waupaca's policy in regards to other nations is to stay out of their way so long as they stay out of ours. As long as this is respected, then war will be averted. In regards to the cleansing of the infidel liberals...they had it coming, and they deserved to die. My country is a much better place now that they are dead, and should they cause trouble again we will continue smashing them.

Now, if you don't mind I have much more pressing matters to deal with.

President Slate

Okay, I shall not involve myself in this then, the matter is settled. I have recalled all units back to their respective bases.

President Jack R.Arnold
Central Prestonia
26-09-2007, 02:22
To: The Government of Waupaca.
From: Steven M. Preston, Secretary of Foreign Affairs

On behalf of the President, I am hereby recanting our ultimatum issued earlier. The Prestonian Republic has no desire to eliminate a new, albeit misguided, nation. Such an action would bring neither honor nor peace. Instead, we are offering a chance for open negotiations. You are hereby invited to send a delegate to the capital city of Hudson in Prestonia to discuss terms by which the massacre of liberals may be halted. Our current offer is as follows:

1. The Prestonian Republic shall pay the government of Waupaca $500 Million, to be earmarked for the improvement of their nation.

2. The United Federation of Allied Nations will agree to an indefinite ceasefire pending humanitarian aid to Waupaca.

3. The nation of Waupaca will deport all citizens professing liberalism to Prestonia, where they will be given citizenship.

4. The nation of Waupaca will refrain from crimes against humanity for the rest of it's existence.

5. The Prestonian Republic shall open trade of consumer goods and medical supplies to the nation of Waupaca.

As you can plainly see, these terms strongly favor your nation. It would be wise to accept them.
Deurem
26-09-2007, 02:24
Offical Statement of The Socialist Republic of Deurem

Though we may deem you actions 'unjust' we believe that no other nation has the right to do what they seem fit against another country. What you do is no one's business and as such we are willing to help defend your nation if you wish.


SIC: A carrier battle group is being readied to deploy near Waupaca and use its aircraft for you air defense.

President Marques Ramone
.
Azaeria
26-09-2007, 02:33
To: The Government of Waupaca.
From: Steven M. Preston, Secretary of Foreign Affairs

On behalf of the President, I am hereby recanting our ultimatum issued earlier. The Prestonian Republic has no desire to eliminate a new, albeit misguided, nation. Such an action would bring neither honor nor peace. Instead, we are offering a chance for open negotiations. You are hereby invited to send a delegate to the capital city of Hudson in Prestonia to discuss terms by which the massacre of liberals may be halted. Our current offer is as follows:

1. The Prestonian Republic shall pay the government of Waupaca $500 Million, to be earmarked for the improvement of their nation.

2. The United Federation of Allied Nations will agree to an indefinite ceasefire pending humanitarian aid to Waupaca.

3. The nation of Waupaca will deport all citizens professing liberalism to Prestonia, where they will be given citizenship.

4. The nation of Waupaca will refrain from crimes against humanity for the rest of it's existence.

5. The Prestonian Republic shall open trade of consumer goods and medical supplies to the nation of Waupaca.

As you can plainly see, these terms strongly favor your nation. It would be wise to accept them.

The Azaerian Emperor has released this notice:

To: Prestonian Leaders and Waupaca Sovereign Supporters
From: Duke Alexander IV

The Flagship Colony of Azaeria is prepared to drop pod soldiers between the borders of Prestonia and Waupauca in order to prevent these "infidels" from spreading their anti-government ways, the liberals are a threat to all of society and must be destroyed, anyone in the way of this shall be dealt with swiftly, and justly.

Every citizen maintains rights within their countries borders, but these childish fools seek to maximize civil rights to where the government themself is POWERLESS to control their people, it is thus we believe this scourge must be purged off the planet, and will do so with Orbital Bombardment if necessary.

As of the Missile Crisis involved, we are prepared to provide refuge for the Waupacan people amongst our flagship colony should things come to this.
Waupaca
26-09-2007, 02:42
President Slate was no longer available for comment later that day, for his cabinet was celebrating their great political victory over the UFAN infidels who had puffed their chests out at the young nation, but ultimately backed down. Celebratory gunfire echoed through the streets as the Imperial Marines cheered and praised their brave leader for not blinking in the face of adversity.

Slate announced that today would be known as 'Freedom Day', and would become a new federal holiday across Waupaca. The remaining liberals in the country sought shelter from the Marines as they began to burn the carcasses that littered the streets so as to not offend their good citizens.

Meanwhile, the President's war ministry began placing orders to advanced weaponry to defend itself should foreign aggression rear its head once more, and hopefully Waupaca would be better suited for any conflict in the future. The diplomatic offices began approving embassies, treaties, and trade offers with any and all nations friendly to Waupaca.
Murra
26-09-2007, 02:42
[OOC:] Conventional, and with a yield of about [does quick wiki search] well, about 1.25 times the average MRAAM, albeit maybe twice the size.

Official Message

The Collectivist Oligarchy can see that Waupaca is capable of handling itself quite well without our assistance. We believe Waupaca will be a valuable ally and would be pleased if it would grant our request to open an embassy in its capital, as well as formal trade relations.

-- Alexei Kadarin

[OOC:] Gawd, I become rather tired at this point. Hence, aside of responding to counterattacks and international criticism, I will most likely fall silent.
Teronis
26-09-2007, 03:19
President Slate.

While your methods are decidedly heavy-handed and lack subtlety, the Dominon commends your decisive strike on a dangerous political enemy, as well as your callous display of disregard for human life. It is our desire to establish friendly relations and an exchange of embassies with your fine country.

~Director Alexander Teronis.
Azaeria
26-09-2007, 04:00
A large metallic box falls on the doorstep of the Waupauca capital building, the box itself is MASSIVE, nearly building sized, labeled:

Azaerian Empire Foreign Aid Unit
Contents:
6 - 120mm Experimental Railguns - Preferred for use on warships and heavy vehicles
8 - Experimental Mobile Suits - Armed with Duel Missile Pods and Gatling Cannons
120 - Assorted Handheld Experimental Railgun Weaponry
40 - Experimental Magma-class Flamethrowers
1 - Letter of Approval

The letter reads:

We applaud your efforts, and it is our custom to treat out fellow allies in the war with respect, so we have sent you a few experimental weapons, since we usually don't have the time to test them ourselves in battlefield situations, we believe that you, and your siege, could benefit the most from them.

We look forward to seeing results Waupauca, and applaud your bravery in this staunch anti-authority world that is rising up.

~Duke Alexander IV, Azaerian Emperor
Demonic Gophers
26-09-2007, 04:20
The Azaerian Emperor has released this notice:

OOC: You FT, or just fairly advanced PMT?

EDIT: Crazy Jolt, that message by Caelapes below was already present when I started posting...
Caelapes
26-09-2007, 04:21
[OOC: I'm bowing out. There's too much PMT and semi-FT stuff going on for me to continue. All Caelapene fleet movements and diplomatic messages are retconned.]
Azaeria
26-09-2007, 04:21
OOC: You FT, or just fairly advanced PMT?

OOC: Advanced PMT, Railguns are a modern technology if anyone would actually persue the research, two giant magnets, giant steel spike. As for Mobile Suits, the only reason no one has ever pursued them as well is because of the lack of mobility for a bipedal walker, which I still do not understand =/, as for the flagship colony, it isn't too far off, maybe 20-30 years if the work would be started by someone, its more of how do you govern space that stops people from doing it.

If I killed this thread by going too high tech, I will gladly delete my posts.
Shazbotdom
26-09-2007, 04:57
SECRET IC:
"Sir, we have another crackpot dictatorship killing people they call 'undesireables'."

"Dammit. Not this same shit. Alright. Put out the normal usual crap."


GLOBAL IC:
OPEN DIPLOMATIC COMMUNICATION
The Supreme Emperor has appointed me to issue the following statment on behalf of him for the following problem.

"Meh"

That is all.
Waupaca
26-09-2007, 20:26
[OOC: I'm bowing out. There's too much PMT and semi-FT stuff going on for me to continue. All Caelapene fleet movements and diplomatic messages are retconned.]

OOC: Well, I'm MT with some slight PMT in there......
Shenyang
26-09-2007, 21:29
From the Foreign Relations Directorate of the Covenant Nation:

To: Waupacan government

Subject: Current World Events

We will admit that your nation does have sovereign rights to self-determination, however as a democratic nation, and in light of your recent actions, we cannot condone your government's policies. Self-determination ends well short of committing genocide. You are setting a dangerous precident for all similar nations, in doing this you only damage any diplomatic ties you may have been able to establish had you not taken such drastic, and frankly, terrorist action.

We will not invade your territory, as we see that it would be to little avail, you are doing a fine job wiping yourselves out, such that we need not help. However, we will, from this point forward establish an embargo on all Waupacan goods coming into Shenyang. Your murderous regime deserves far worse than this, but we see that it would be a fools errand to interfere in your genocidal government's plans.

We will only offer your leaders this one bit of advice, 'Have a nice day in hell, because that's what you're making for yourself.'

-Shenyangi High Council Chairman Alexander Murdock.

-End Communique
Akimonad
26-09-2007, 21:47
[OOC: I'm bowing out. There's too much PMT and semi-FT stuff going on for me to continue. All Caelapene fleet movements and diplomatic messages are retconned.]

Same here. I was trying MT to early PMT, but that seems to have gone down the drain.
Logan and Ky
26-09-2007, 22:13
As a proud liberal nation, Logan and Ky finds this unprovoked massacre disturbing and offensive. Any further action of this manner will not be tolerated.

Signed,
Erikk Svalbard
President
Praetonia
26-09-2007, 22:30
Same here. I was trying MT to early PMT, but that seems to have gone down the drain.

As if his crazy geography-wank wasn't enough? This person is obviously a puppet trying to bait people into attacking him.
The Order of America
26-09-2007, 23:55
The OoA Condemns the Actions This Nation. To wipe out an oposing party is despicable, cruel, and unfair. Your nations utter violation of the Peoples freedom of speech is disgusting. Politicians in my own nation are beginning to wonder whether if it is time for a Change in Leadership. I assure you, one more incident of this sort, The Supreme Governing Council will take these concerns to a new level.

Sincerely,
Jefferson Davis
Supreme Emperor of The OoA
High Chairman of The Supreme Governing Council
The Order of America
26-09-2007, 23:55
The OoA Condemns the Actions of This Nation. To wipe out an oposing party is despicable, cruel, and unfair. Your nations utter violation of the Peoples freedom of speech is disgusting. Politicians in my own nation are beginning to wonder whether if it is time for a Change in Leadership. I assure you, one more incident of this sort, The Supreme Governing Council will take these concerns to a new level.

Sincerely,
Jefferson Davis
Supreme Emperor of The OoA
High Chairman of The Supreme Governing Council
The Parthians
27-09-2007, 00:25
Official Statement from the Shah of Parthia

It always amuses me how the liberal nations of the world jump against national sovereignity every time it is exercised in the name of the greater function of a nation. As if the rule of sovereign nations is somehow trumped by the silly and pointless invention of human rights. Note, as well, how it is only the weaker, smaller nations who are preyed upon by the hounds of liberalism. Why then, is Parthia left to execute our dissenting traitors when Waupaca is forced by the point of the gun to stop?

For those giving an ultimatum to the nation of Waupaca, I tell them, cease, now while you can. And to Waupaca, I say, hold firm to your policy. If any of the fools assaulting your nation do not immediately cease, I will annihilate the very memory of those nations, they will be defeated, exterminated, and flattened, until all that remains is charred ruins of buildings and corpses of the exterminated. The Shahdom intends on utter destruction for all who continue their destructive course of action.

Cease now, or be lost to the sands of time.
New Brittonia
27-09-2007, 01:03
Six helecopters launched from the New Brittonian embassy relayed the following message

We are of the New Brittonian Embassy STOP Do not attack

Meanwhile, ambassador Jackson yelled,
"Open the doors, we need to get as many refugees in as we can!"
Waupaca
27-09-2007, 01:29
As if his crazy geography-wank wasn't enough? This person is obviously a puppet trying to bait people into attacking him.


OOC: Yet another person who doesn't understand the concept of propaganda coming from a leader's mouth.
Shazbotdom
27-09-2007, 01:40
*SNIP*

OOC:
NB. Your sig is over 10 lines long.
Waupaca
27-09-2007, 01:55
OOC: Shazbotdom, don't spam.

Now, before anyone else wets their pants, allow me to make an OFFICIAL explanation of Waupaca's geography.

Waupacans are hill folk who live in an almost entirely mountainous region, though large valleys are everywhere. This helps protect Waupaca but also cuts it off to the outside world, and in order to get supplies into the nation trucks have to navigate treacherous, narrow trails where accidents are frequent. They also have to drive across the ice sheet and brave the elements, and of course there are plenty of accidents there as well. Waupaca has no navy due to being almost completely landlocked, and instead must rely on its neighbors and whatever they can truck and fly in from elsewhere, as well as domestic production which is insufficient but growing. Farming is difficult and as a result the poorest people in the nation tend to either eat dirt or starve while the upper class and military take whatever they can.

The mountains are certainly low enough to be able to fly over, regardless of what a deranged, fictional character says. :rolleyes:
Shazbotdom
27-09-2007, 03:12
OOC: Shazbotdom, don't spam.

OOC:
I'm sure he'd rather me tell him than a mod do it.
Praetonia
27-09-2007, 17:31
OOC: Yet another person who doesn't understand the concept of propaganda coming from a leader's mouth.
National leaders don't usually try to pretend their geography is different to what it actually is. It's kind of hard to invent mountains and glaciers from nowhere. Since you did not clarify the statements OOC anywhere, there was no reason to suppose it was propaganda. Then again, your actual OOC description seems to tally with the leader's description anyway, so I don't see what your point is here.
Antigr
27-09-2007, 17:55
As I've no time for an IC post, I'll just say this:

Oi! We're liberal democrats, and we just added you to our 'hate' list.
Waupaca
27-09-2007, 19:49
National leaders don't usually try to pretend their geography is different to what it actually is. It's kind of hard to invent mountains and glaciers from nowhere. Since you did not clarify the statements OOC anywhere, there was no reason to suppose it was propaganda.

You're right. I mean, obviously if I say something in character then it must be true out of character. :rolleyes:

And please, point me to any kind of rule or guidline that says my leader can't make any kind of BS claim he wants. I mean, if the Iraqi Information Minister can claim American troops are commiting suicide in their tanks, why can't my leader claim the mountains are too high and weather too severe to fly over?

The truth is the terrain in Waupaca is treacherous for everyone, and my President was trying to intimidate his critics by suggesting that any sort of military action would be futile thanks to mother nature. Forgive me for assuming people had the ability to take in character posts for what they're worth. I clarified OOCly, therefore I don't see what your gripe is.


Then again, your actual OOC description seems to tally with the leader's description anyway, so I don't see what your point is here.


You know, I really don't see what your point is here. You came into this thread for seemingly no reason at all, since it clearly didn't involve you. And you'll have to excuse me for thinking that playing my nation as living in treacherous conditions was acceptable.

Now, if you don't have anything in character wise to contribute to this thread, I ask you refrain from hijacking it further.
Iribathea
27-09-2007, 20:58
Salutations,

We are pleased that war was staved. War is a method of last resort when it comes to resolving international incidents. As we have stated before, we are not in the Dark Ages.

We officially deplore the waste of human resources that has occurred within the Nation of Waupaca. However, we feel that a nation's sovereignty is the most important ideal of them all. For without our sovereignty, what are we? We are nothing. All other factors - human rights and otherwise - are secondary.

Now that your sovereignty is assured, Waupaca, we urge you to do what is best for your people.

You were given a mandate from the Gods to rule. If you do not rule well and for the good of your people, you will soon find yourself without a people to rule - this is the Law of Karma.

Signed,
High King Joseph Garbutt of Iribathea
Buddha C
27-09-2007, 21:32
While it is charming that youre hellbent on establishing some sort of dictatorship, we strongly suggest disposing of the bodies after your intended massacres. While it is impressive to pile up corpses, it is also extremly unhygenic and often results in very unpleasant diseases.
We are quite aware that 'you can always get more people' and such, but you should know that people take some time to grow back and all, and until they do your economy and military will both suffer from manpower shortages.
I'll yield the floor to the much more important messages with fancy headers you'll be getting shortly, no doubt most of these will be along the lines of 'SURRENDER OR DIE BY ORDER OF THE EMPIRE OF BOB, PREPARE TO BECOME OUR PROTECTORATE.'
Really, there are lots of bored people out there with big guns. You should be more careful about what you broadcast.

Dont die,
Tsar Pavel VI of Dontgonearthere.

Official Prestonian Statement

The Prestonian Republic condemns in highest possible terms the ruthless political cleansing your nation is undertaking. You have 48 hours to recant before the Prestonian Armed Forces destroy your rabble of madmen that seems to pass for a government and install one more friendly to human rights.

In utmost Seriousness,
Justin M. Gannon
President, Republic of Prestonia
Vice-Chairman, Prestonian Democratic Party
Order of the Republic, First Class

{{OOC:ZOMG! He was right on target!... bored.}}
Rogue Protoss
28-09-2007, 12:20
OOC: oh sorry here i'll fix it
IC:The Rogues of Aiur would seek permisson to search your country for Artifacts of the our creators the Xel'Naga in exchange we offer full diplomatic recogniton and economic aid and possible military aid, i warn all nations not to interfere with our nation due to our peaceful nature and powerful militia
Imperial isa
28-09-2007, 15:40
The Rogues of Auir would like to examine your nation in order to search for Xel'Naga technology which rightfully belongs to us, we would repay for allowing us the search with food supplies,technology to expand domestic production as well as advanced military weaponry, should any one interfer know this we are few in number but our alien technology will easily deat you noobish military, we also extend this same offer to any other country willing, also should we find technology in a country that refuses to hand it over be aware that we have recently taken control of a zerg brood that is growing rapidly and restless thank you.

OOC sorry thisis a MT thread not FT one
Praetonia
28-09-2007, 17:24
You're right. I mean, obviously if I say something in character then it must be true out of character. :rolleyes:
That isn't what I said, I said there was no reason to suppose it wasn't true. Given that nothing is stopping you from creating crazy terrain except RP ettiquette that you do not seem to recognise the existance of, and no contrary evidence existed, this was a reasonable supposition.

And please, point me to any kind of rule or guidline that says my leader can't make any kind of BS claim he wants. I mean, if the Iraqi Information Minister can claim American troops are commiting suicide in their tanks, why can't my leader claim the mountains are too high and weather too severe to fly over?

The truth is the terrain in Waupaca is treacherous for everyone, and my President was trying to intimidate his critics by suggesting that any sort of military action would be futile thanks to mother nature. Forgive me for assuming people had the ability to take in character posts for what they're worth. I clarified OOCly, therefore I don't see what your gripe is.
I wasn't referring to IC claims about the abilities of an enemy to cross terrain - which is quite obviously just opinion - I was referring to the idea of a nation located entirely in the middle of an otherwise completely unclaimed continent with no neighbours surrounded entirely with mountains and glaciers. If this is not an accurate description of your nation then please say so, but nothing you have said, IC or OOC, has indicated that it is untrue. Your continual character attacks are thus completely irrelevent (not that they weren't anyway).

You know, I really don't see what your point is here. You came into this thread for seemingly no reason at all, since it clearly didn't involve you. And you'll have to excuse me for thinking that playing my nation as living in treacherous conditions was acceptable.
So you don't deny that your nation is as your leader described geographically?

Now, if you don't have anything in character wise to contribute to this thread, I ask you refrain from hijacking it further.
It does concern me. This is an open thread and one I would be interested in getting involved in if the terms of the RP were kept reasonable. Since you have made it eminently clear that neither reasonable RPing nor general civility are on the table here, I shall do as you advise and "refrain from hijacking it further".
Onepostguy
28-09-2007, 18:25
OOC: Sorry to intrude.

Waupaca, the people complaining about your terrain are right. In fact, the terrain scenario you described is very similar to an example found in the stickies of an example of godmoding. I really do recommend either adding a coastline to your nation or opening up the mountain range somewhere.

Praetonia, I don't believe it is appropriate for a Haven nation to rag on a newbs for a defensive terrain wank. The way your regional alliance is managed is every bit as unrealistic, and gives you a far greater advantage than some mountains.
Praetonia
28-09-2007, 18:44
Haven does not have a "regional alliance". The HDI (what I think you're referring to, and which Praetonia is not a member of) is not managed any differently to real life defensive alliances. However I think this is best taken to TG...
Central Prestonia
30-09-2007, 07:03
President Slate was no longer available for comment later that day, for his cabinet was celebrating their great political victory over the UFAN infidels who had puffed their chests out at the young nation, but ultimately backed down. Celebratory gunfire echoed through the streets as the Imperial Marines cheered and praised their brave leader for not blinking in the face of adversity.

Slate announced that today would be known as 'Freedom Day', and would become a new federal holiday across Waupaca. The remaining liberals in the country sought shelter from the Marines as they began to burn the carcasses that littered the streets so as to not offend their good citizens.

Meanwhile, the President's war ministry began placing orders to advanced weaponry to defend itself should foreign aggression rear its head once more, and hopefully Waupaca would be better suited for any conflict in the future. The diplomatic offices began approving embassies, treaties, and trade offers with any and all nations friendly to Waupaca.
Presidential Mansion
1 Avenue of Heroes
Hudson
1800 Hours Local Time
President Gannon sat in the living room watching TV. On PBG Evening News, images flashed across the screen from Waupaca. Men ran around, shooting AK-47s in the air in celebration. The crowd burned UFAN flags and chanted anti-UFAN slogans in defiance. Seeing enough, Gannon turned off the television. "Typical third-world bullshit. We decide to say fuck it for awhile and they get all "down with UFAN" on us. Fuck them. They want to act badass, we'll give them badass. I think it's time for our army to taste it's first blood.

To: President General Harold Slate
From: President Justin M. Gannon

You insolent pig. We call off our aggression for one week, hoping to see some change, and you turn around and insult us. Your continued defiance does not amuse the Prestonian Republic. We have given you ample time to cease and desist and still you continue to slaughter your opponents. Very well. As of now a state of war exists between the nations of Waupaca and Prestonia. If you will not allow your nation to see the light of freedom, then we shall do it for you. Good day.

Campbell Air Base
1925 Hours

C-5s were parked all along the taxiway being filled with troops and equipment. Soldiers formed up, parachutes attached, and filed in. As soon as the code word was given, 450,000 paratroopers of the 23rd and 172nd Airborne Divisions would disperse from seven airbases all over Prestonia and head for Waupaca. Accompanying them would be 50,000 troops of the elite 91st Special Forces Division and a further 100,000 Marines of 5th Marine Expeditionary Division. All told, these forces would far outnumber anything the Waupacans could throw at them. Victory was expected within two weeks.
Wagdog
30-09-2007, 18:14
OOC: May as well post in, since I may be needed here soon. ORBAT for Fourth Army Group is as below, though only the airborne and Air Force elements are deploying at first; and even these will take a bit to arrive naturally.

USSW Army Group Brief TO&E
Field Army
195,000 Personnel
3500 MBT-30 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12542882) MBTs, 1500 T-17B (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12302195) Scout Tankettes, 1000 UT-7B (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12287051) CEVs
7250 BKCh-1 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12229296)
APCs, 1500 BKCh-T (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12331728) CFVs
750 BKCh-SU (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12443733) Assault Guns, 150 D-30 Towed Guns
720 2S7A (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12380738) SP Guns, 450 BM-30 Smerch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K58_Smerch) MLRS, 450 RK-55/555 SS-C-4 Slingshot (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS-15) GLCMs, 450 SS-23 Spider (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-23_Spider) SRBMs
2250 S-400 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400)
SAMs, 750 TS-M1 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12237807) SPAA
12000 Ural 4320 (http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/dozorb.php?menu=m1.php]DOZOR-B[/URL] Light, 3000 DOZOR-B Light, 3750 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural_4320) Medium and 750 MAZ-543 (http://warfare.ru/?lang=&linkid=2298&catid=247) Heavy Trucks
Total: 345,000 Personnel with Assets Indicated.

SIC
Red Army Air Force One, Skies over Wagdog
"So you are saying, Marshal, that assisting our Prestonian allies is indeed expedient now that the Trojan situation appears resolved discreetly?" General Secretary Charles Lind didn't like how spread out his military was becoming. But all told, better the spread be by small amounts rather than another formation-guzzler like Zanski was turning out to be. In short, it was as always a judgment call.

"Yes sir." Field Marshal William Mecklenholtz, Army Chief of Staff, was the Joint Chiefs of Staff member most relevant to this operation; as well as aboard the plane too per the needs of the Ennuisian contingency. Naturally, Waupaca being a landlocked nation, air and land ops were the only ways in; and it was in naval terms that although most powerful, Wagdog was also most overstretched to begin with. "In the unlikely event the Trojans get uppity again, we have allies and forces in the region still. I'd recommend Fourth Army Group be tasked with this mission, it being the second of the two we planned using for Troy and still here in strategic reserve; Fifth can remain in position for anything in the Middle East." Fortunately, Wagdog hadn't overcommitted itself to an operation that had already begun looking iffy even as the alliances consulted and deployments drawn up.

"Very well. Potential Parthian involvement is what concerns me, but as a deterrent we may be able to become involved and expedite Prestonian operations. Very well, 'go' order is given." General Secretary Lind had felt much like President Gannon had, WIBC News showing thirdhand footage of the Waupacan uproar after the momentary UFAN withdrawal of interest. President Slate, you are about to learn that public gloating like you have done is generally a way to get the enemy's interest back. You certainly have mine now.

Marshal Mecklenholtz acknowledging his civilian superior's orders, he retired from the plane's scarlet-and-gold bedecked executive suite to the staff room. There, acting as a miniature command center for the Joint Chiefs proper, duly-authorized deputies being aboard other Maxdome national command aircraft should some unforeseeable catastrophe get past the constant fighter escorts and wreak havoc with this aircraft, the orders would be given to the relevant units and Wagdog's role in this contingency operation would begin.

Where would it end? Well, General Secretary Charles Lind had long ago stopped asking that question. Major wars ended, even whole series of them yes; but there was never a shortage of minor responsibilities like this one. Or, moreover, major ones that could possibly spring up out of them. Hence, to remain on the same page as those he was supporting, he drafted the following communique to President Gannon and his command...
OBSAT SECURE BATTLEFIELD COMMUNICATION
FROM: General Secretary Charles D. Lind, CINC, USSW War Office
TO: President Justin M. Gannon, CINC, Central Prestonia

I've heard of your deployment against Waupaca, and am readying my own forces for support. So we don't trip over ourselves and waste what little time may be left, what do you need our forces to strike first in-theater? Our ground elements can follow-on after both our airborne troops secure lines-of-communication for easy transport of the remainder, and for now air defense suppression is the tasking for my air forces involved.

Word of superpower interest by Parthia and possibly others does give pause, but for now a swift mission is judged as having fair options of success. Whatever the case, we in Wagdog are willing to uphold declared principle and interest by our mutual alliance in this matter. In short, where do you need us; and doing what first?


IC
Fort Nealea, Nealea Combined Army/Air Bases' Complex; New Coledonia State, Wagdog
"Atten..." Sergeant-Major Bernard D'Estain, the gruff and vaguely ex-Legionnaire looking Battalion SNCO for 1st Battalion, 4th Airborne Corps of the Wagdian Red Army addressed the 'stick' of 120 para-commandos standing before him tensed. "SHUN!" They snapped to per training, ready to receive orders. The Colonel in command of both Corps and Battalion, Rachel Wight, had tasked the Sergeant-Major with the briefing for the troops of Alpha Company while others handled their companies as they saw fit in preparing to embark their Il-76MD transports.

"I've just received word from Battalion HQ that we, like our brethren in the other twenty-four battalions of this Corps, are to board our transports and proceed to Waupaca; assisting our Federation allies Prestonia in a contingency operation to depose the present democidal regime and restore some sense to a nation apparently lacking it." Unlike, say, another SNCO in Seventh Army Group or suchlike, he didn't have the luxury of a 'been there, done that' attitude; this would be the first time units from either Army or Army Air Force elements of Fourth Army Group deployed outside Wagdian territory, so hence this was very much their first crack at such an operation even if (like other elements of the Red Army) they had trained for it all the same.

"Now this isn't some minor deployment, however small the target nation and its armed forces may be even relative to our parent Fourth Army alone; much less the Fourth Air Force so courteously taking us on this. We have word some fairly major powers are potentially interested, which is why we're deploying so that the operation can be completed before they have time to move. A fait accompli gentlemen," his lapsing into his native French brought a smile. "And we are the ones tasked to 'accomplish' that fact in full. The Air Force will be going in first to support Prestonian landings, while we move in behind for discretionary operations as the Prestonians may require. I don't need to ask if you're ready men, right?" He cast a mock disapproving glare at the Rangers before him, knowing their answer of course.

"No Sergeant-Major!" The chorus of 120 assembled was deafening enough, especially accompanied by some two other companies apparently engaging in this morale-building ritual of old. E-19 assault rifles and other weapons held at low-starboard as proper, depending on the particular trooper in question's specialty whether rifleman or weapons-crewman or whatever, they indeed seemed as ready as any newly-deploying formation could be.

"Very well then, Rangers. Alpha Company... all aboard! MOVE!" As the troopers boarded, off in the distance the shrill roar of aircraft lifting off became heard; FA-15D Cardinals, B-22 Zeus bombers, Il-78M Midas tankers and A-50M Mainstay AWACS, and more besides all intended as the first wave of combat unless some sort of sudden change in circumstances in Prestonia's favor called the operation off. All told, about as much force as most countries Waupaca's size could field in toto was about to be brought to bear against it; and that behind what Prestonia was to commit. Not a guarantee of victory, by any means, but by all means a fair enough attempt to secure victory.
The Order of America
01-10-2007, 21:48
Your Insolence disgusts me. The UFAN backs down to no one. Nothing you did made them pursue peace. Your Military is Pathetic, your nation is pathetic and if your deliberate cockiness continues we along with Nations far more powerful will crush you. I due hope that you are Sensible enough to back off in this situation. If you aren't I will start pursuing a change in Leadership.

You Have had Your Warning,
Jefferson Davis
High Chairman of The Supreme Governing Council
Supreme Emperor of The OoA