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MY Factbook. Still a work in progress. Could'nt get the map i had of Israel to go up, weird. :(

...Cascadia...
Isn't that a proposed secessionist nation for the Pacific Coast states?

(OOC: I haven't looked yet, although I think it might be better RP wise to let them have a choice as to weapons, that way it's not just about numbers.)

I think we should go with one standard set of weapons.

Nope, I can set you up with Greece, Macedonia, and Thrace if you like.

By the way all, I am currently 80% done with my final version of the religion map, all that's left is China, Canada, South East Asia, Indonesia, India, Japan, the Pacific, and Africa south of the equator... which is proving troublesome because I've decided to leave tribal/local religions out. Instead, I'm looking for the largest world religion in the region.

I don't have the map on the computer I'm currently using, so I will have to work on it a bit later.

I better be Buddhist, animist, shamanist, or atheist...or heads will roll.

This is open to anyone: Can anybody here think of a tank, a helicopter, a fighter, a bomber, an aircraft carrier, and/or a transport (last two of less importance than the rest) that would have been used in the 1960s, 50s, or early 70s? It would also be helpful if the average price of these were easy to find. Thanks.
An average and common tank would be the T-64
An average fighter jet would be the MiG-21
The average Carrier would have been a US WW2 hand out probably like the Enterprise

These are guesses BTW cos I really don't have a clue
Great, any idea where I could find prices for these? Or, any rough estimates? Even a ballpark would be fine.

Aircraft Carrier -- $4 billion
Assault Rifle -- $250
Bomber -- $8 million
Destroyer -- $75 million
Fighter -- $5 million
Helicopter -- $5 million
Submarine -- $500 million
Tank -- $1 million
Transport Aircraft -- $65 million
Transport -- $250 million

Some of these are estimates, fudgings, or guesses. Some are based on real things.

We should work out some sort of rock-paper-scissors format for all this:
Helicopter > Tank > Personnel > Helicopter
Fighter > Bomber > Land > Fighter
Submarine > Carrier > Frigate > Submarine

Here is my plain plan which is to occupy Denmark and conquer Finland.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13082418#post13082418

MY Factbook. Still a work in progress. Could'nt get the map i had of Israel to go up, weird. :(

The map is on there, but inaccurate. You don't control a silver right across Sinai. You control a tid bit in the north, that's all. Also, you control all of Lebanon and about a third of Syria.

We should work out some sort of rock-paper-scissors format for all this:
Helicopter > Tank > Personnel > Helicopter
Fighter > Bomber > Land > Fighter
Submarine > Carrier > Frigate > Submarine

I agree with everying but this last part. I like to idea of RPing having more to do with victory in this game than this sort of monotonous way. Plus, CCs would have very little to do in this kind of battle.

But I really like those estimates, I may use those exact ones.

Isn't that a proposed secessionist nation for the Pacific Coast states?

Probably, but then the Michigan Militia is supposed to have it's own sovereign nation by now. The name stems from the Cascade Mountains, and it's cool sounding.

Just a gentle reminder, Antigonal, because I know you're doing a million things at once, but I'm still waiting on the map clarification, so that I can draw up my infrastructures. Though I have aded the religious elements now.

Probably, but then the Michigan Militia is supposed to have it's own sovereign nation by now. The name stems from the Cascade Mountains, and it's cool sounding.

Just a gentle reminder, Antigonal, because I know you're doing a million things at once, but I'm still waiting on the map clarification, so that I can draw up my infrastructures. Though I have aded the religious elements now.

I keep waiting for a reply from Mussleburgh before I update the map again. I have a feeling the second I do, he'll tell me what land he wants. Well, if he doesn't get it to me soon I'm gonna bump him to the first training round.

I'll give him a bit longer, then I'll update the political map.

I agree with everying but this last part. I like to idea of RPing having more to do with victory in this game than this sort of monotonous way. Plus, CCs would have very little to do in this kind of battle.

But I really like those estimates, I may use those exact ones.

I don't care, just an idea.

Whoever was trying to claim some of Morrocco: No, you have enough land in Spain, and I'm not trying to block of your monoply of the straits, it just seems unlikely seeing as how our nations just formed that you would have taken control of a region with a much different culture and religion.

I updated the religious map to include the Holy Catholic Confederation (see rules). I did, however, leave out one thing. La Coruna, Spain is supposed to be Radical Protestant. The back story to this is that during WWIII English Protestant extremists fled their home country which they felt oppresed them and was crumbling in the war for it's lack of religiousity. Much like the Puritans and Plymouth, they fled. Soon they outnumbered Spanish Catholics two to one. The government eventually made a deal with them allowing them to stay, however, this was the pre-collapse government. The world waits to see how the new regime will treat them.

I was wondering why, On the map only part of England is claimed. I claimed the whole thing after you asked and I replied

"I would also want North and Central".

I was wondering why, On the map only part of England is claimed. I claimed the whole thing after you asked and I replied

"I would also want North and Central".

Fine.

Mussleburgh, you have until tomorrow night to make your claim. If you don't claim it at that time, I'm bumping you to the sign up list for the Australia training world.

By the way all, I just wanna let everyone know that coastal Australia is claimable, only the "roped off" interior area is unconquerable.

When will we start this?

and I be;lieve we will need a forum. I can make one if you want.

When will we start this?

and I be;lieve we will need a forum. I can make one if you want.

We could... I've never used an outside forum before. In your experience, do they work well?

Factbooks are due Saturday and game starts Monday.

Well it would be better to control all events in the RP. Like Trade and such. Not the actual IC part.

I don't think I can make one now

It's been my experience that forums work very well for this sort of thing, since it's expands into categories and topics and threads, where as here we just have the on continuous thread with peripheral links.

I highly recommend Proboards, it's easy and user friendly. And you can link images into the posts directly, so it's more visually appealing...:)

I can set one up - anyone could, really - in about fifteen minutes.

BEEEEEEEEEP! *Stops car*

This is rather werid, Nations should be able to produce their own weapons etc etc, and not buy them from the market. When do you see US buying weapons from UN? :p

I think the idea is that while we will "buy" the military equipment from a "store", within the game world we will simply have manufactured them. The "store" is just a mechanism by which we determine how many and of what our nations are manufacturing.

Antigonal = Sky Blue
Vanek Drury Brieres = Light Blue
The Scandivans = Pine Green
Honako = Crimson
Kansiov = Purple
New Brittonia = Dark Blue
Angaor = Yellow
Tynlandia = Orange
Ebedron= Green
Sel Appa = Tan
Lachenburg = Light Yellow
Ghassan = Pink
Blue = Cymrea
New Papal Union (unconquerable) = Red


Hang on one moment, didn't i sign up for this aswell?

yup I think he forgot to put you in....

Any IC should certainly not be non-NS in my opinion. Every RP I've been in that has been on or included another forum has failed very quickly.

Oh, and with the religion thing, I assume I can make my own sectors of the Eastern Orthodox Church - for example, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Orthodox_Church), which will follow the Russian ones belief, but will just be for my country?

Outside forums have several pros and cons.
Pros:

more control
better organized

Cons:

membership pool drops very significantly
some people won't want to make a new account or can't


I think we should stay here for now.

Actually I'm going to take myself out of this. These kinds of RPs usually fail (no offense) and I'd prefer not to be apart of it if it just ends two weeks down the road.

Hang on one moment, didn't i sign up for this aswell?

You sure did, and you're on the map... the map that hasn't been updated yet. Next update (in a bit, I'm still giving Mussleburgh time) you'll be on. I believe you're bright green...

Any IC should certainly not be non-NS in my opinion. Every RP I've been in that has been on or included another forum has failed very quickly.

Oh, and with the religion thing, I assume I can make my own sectors of the Eastern Orthodox Church - for example, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Orthodox_Church), which will follow the Russian ones belief, but will just be for my country?

Yeah that's fine, I just ran out of map colors to distinguish such little sects.

Actually I'm going to take myself out of this. These kinds of RPs usually fail (no offense) and I'd prefer not to be apart of it if it just ends two weeks down the road.

Do what you wanna do, but I am going to let you know that I will do everything in my power to keep this RP from failing. I am very much commited and very much determined to make this work.

Do what you wanna do, but I am going to let you know that I will do everything in my power to keep this RP from failing. I am very much commited and very much determined to make this work.

That's always good to here. I hope it does work out. It is an interesting idea.

Sel, do you still wanna be the bank mod?

You sure did, and you're on the map... the map that hasn't been updated yet. Next update (in a bit, I'm still giving Mussleburgh time) you'll be on. I believe you're bright green...

Thanks Also The greeny colours contrast abit on the religious map, Is the north/west African area Greater Islam?

Thanks Also The greeny colours contrast abit on the religious map, Is the north/west African area Greater Islam?

Dark/Pine Green = Greater Islam

Light Green = Radical Sunni Seperatists

sorry all Im going to have to withdraw from this thread. its hrd for me to give it alot of thought, I got an eye injury at work and it limits my time on line.

Okay, so that means we have room for one more... I'll try and contact Weccanfield.

Remember all, factbooks done by Saturday, RP begins on Monday.

Whoever was trying to claim some of Morrocco: No, you have enough land in Spain, and I'm not trying to block of your monoply of the straits, it just seems unlikely seeing as how our nations just formed that you would have taken control of a region with a much different culture and religion.

OK. That was me. And, when are we going to get our #s, like NHP? I don't want to sound mean, but, when?

OK. That was me. And, when are we going to get our #s, like NHP? I don't want to sound mean, but, when?

Link me your factbook and I can tell you now. By the way, I haven't been compiling your factbooks (sorry, busy), so on Saturday, I'm gonna need you guys to link um to me again. Sorry.

factbooks done by Saturday, RP begins on Monday.

Can I have slightly longer? Just until Sunday for the following reason
A Day in My life

6.30: - Get up
9.00: - School
4.30: - Home
4.45: - Work
9.50: - Home
9.55: - Chores
11.55: - Collapse in bed

I can have a good FactBook up by Sunday but not Saturday. Sorry

I'd be interested in signing up with Sierra Leone and Liberia (or just Sierra Leone, if that's too much), if you guys still have room. I understand that two of your guys have left.

Sel, do you still wanna be the bank mod?

Sure. You'll just need to explain how it works when we start.

Can I have slightly longer? Just until Sunday for the following reason
A Day in My life

6.30: - Get up
9.00: - School
4.30: - Home
4.45: - Work
9.50: - Home
9.55: - Chores
11.55: - Collapse in bed

I can have a good FactBook up by Sunday but not Saturday. Sorry

That's fine, completely understandable. You can have an extra day, just please get it in before we start on Monday.

Sure. You'll just need to explain how it works when we start.

Basically (and everyone should read this) there will be a series of account options that gain interest. Every three years you will compound the interest and give it to the governments. The World Bank will be based out of the only stable, unconquerble country in the game, Rome.

There can be an account that compounds like 10% interest for accounts that put a billion dollars in, an account that compounds 15% for a million, ect.

Please note that OTHER WORLD BANKS CAN OPEN. You need someone approved by me to run it but your nation can open an international, and it must be international, bank with your own accounts.

I'd be interested in signing up with Sierra Leone and Liberia (or just Sierra Leone, if that's too much), if you guys still have room. I understand that two of your guys have left.

Lemme think it over. Two of our members did leave, but we had too many to begin with so it might work out. Keep checking this thread, I'll have an answer soon...

Linky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539118)

Thanks. By the way, can you please tell me what else I need.

Vanek Drury Brieres (I'm callin' you VDB from now on...):

NHP (national happiness percentage): 70% (+5% for Scientific)
NFP (national food percentage): 74%
TYI (three year income): $5,500,000,000,000
NLP (national loyalty percentage): 38%

Oh, things your factbook could use: More details about government, dictatorship-republic is pretty vague. A general idea of your culture, important laws, and national ethos. Also, you can't start playing until you have a history to how your nation was founded after the war. And what's your population (very important)? We're using populstat.info as the standard to calculate populations, get your figures for Portugal and Spain, add two zeroes to whatever numbers they give you, then add the two.

Just try to flesh it out a bit as well.

My factbook can be found in my signature below. I would highly recommend having that be a standard practice, as it makes for much easier referencing.

Also, while my factbook is technically "up", it's incomplete. I will complete it in full detail once the details of my nation are settled.

Good to go. :cool:

Heh, no need to TG me, I'm already here.

I presume you want me to post my claims, or do you have something else in mind?

Hmmm give me my stats please :)

My Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13080988#post13080988)

Ok here's my Factbook once again......

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13077522&highlight=Tynlandia#post13077522

That's fine, completely understandable. You can have an extra day, just please get it in before we start on Monday.

Thanks, just one question
Can your nation consist of City states?

heres My fact book

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13077220#post13077220

Thanks, just one question
Can your nation consist of City states?

I suppose so, but it just takes 1 nuke... :p

I suppose so, but it just takes 1 nuke... :p

Not really
If you take out one City State, another will take it's place! :)

No, sorry Alversia, it could be a loose confederation, but no city states. Makes it too confusing. Then you could have things like: "you only destroyed one of my city-states, thre rest are OK!"

Hold off on sending me your factbooks just yet, I'm going to start compiling them tomorrow.

MUSSLEBURGH: Unless you claim right now and are able to have your factbook up in less than two days, I am giving your place to Weccanfield.

Hmmm give me my stats please :)

My Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13080988#post13080988)


Erm...

Erm...

Kansiov:

NFP: 72% (-5% for Artist trait)
NHP: 86% (+10% for Artist, +5% for Scientist)
TYI: $4,100,000,000
NLP: 47%

Heh, no need to TG me, I'm already here.

I presume you want me to post my claims, or do you have something else in mind?

What were your claims again? I might need to limit them a bit, I'm sorry but since you're joining late, I sorta need to regulate things. We have four African countries, several European ones, a bunch of Middle Eastern, Near Eastern, and Balkan countries. We do need some Far Eastern nations, South American ones, North America is good, coastal Australia and Indonesia are open as well. Try to limit yourself to these places.

Does anyone have any idea of what the 1965 population of the Sinai and the Nile Delta would be?

Vanek Drury Brieres (I'm callin' you VDB from now on...):

NHP (national happiness percentage): 70% (+5% for Scientific)
NFP (national food percentage): 74%
TYI (three year income): $5,500,000,000,000
NLP (national loyalty percentage): 38%

Everyone does. Thanks a lot. Oh, and I was wondering, could I change my system of government, or is it too late?

I was aiming for the Nile basin, actually, but I may change it due to your recommendations. Most probably Japan, if so.

Everyone does. Thanks a lot. Oh, and I was wondering, could I change my system of government, or is it too late?

How radically?

I was aiming for the Nile basin, actually, but I may change it due to your recommendations. Most probably Japan, if so.

Japan would be great, then there would be more than two nations in East Asia.

Japan would be great, then there would be more than two nations in East Asia.

Then Japan it is. Will my population be limited in anyway? It's been a while since I read the OP, you see.

Then Japan it is. Will my population be limited in anyway? It's been a while since I read the OP, you see.

No population limits on Japan. You just need to have a factbook up within the next two days. Also don't forget to pick two national traits and a CC trait (see rules).

H-Town Tejas, you're in provided that you think you can learn the rules and have a completed factbook up before this Monday. You're getting both the countries you asked for in your previous post. Deal?

No population limits on Japan. You just need to have a factbook up within the next two days. Also don't forget to pick two national traits and a CC trait (see rules).

H-Town Tejas, you're in provided that you think you can learn the rules and have a completed factbook up before this Monday. You're getting both the countries you asked for in your previous post. Deal?

Will do.

How radically?

Just to a complete Republic. I'll probably RP it in the Event Thread anyway.

Just to a complete Republic. I'll probably RP it in the Event Thread anyway.

I'd say hold off till RP. It's kinda late now.

But this does raise and important point: the Event Thread will not be for your events. They will be for events I create. Be sure it check it as the events will likely involve you. If you would like to talk about national events you've created, the main thread can be used or your factbook. If it's a big one, make a new thread and I can link it here.

O_o my TYI is pretty low :(...

O_o my TYI is pretty low :(...

It's about average, the only reason VDB's is higher is because of the heavy taxation he imposes on ships passing through the Straights of Gibralter.

Wait but are there any ships passing through? And he can't tax as he does not control both banks of the strait.

Wait but are there any ships passing through? And he can't tax as he does not control both banks of the strait.

Yeah but I'm factoring in that ships will be passing through very often when the game begins. And the Straits are so narrow that he could probably control both banks with his navy, besides, it's not like there's another player on the other side of the strait.

I know this is sorta off-topic but......Antaginol and Kansiov both have the same number of posts.

:P

I know this is sorta off-topic but......Antaginol and Kansiov both have the same number of posts.

:P

Haha, I noticed that too. Well, they're not the same anymore...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13082418#post13082418


can i get my info please? thx

Damn......I can't wait any longer......Now have you chosen all your MODs yet?

MODs? Is he even choosing any? :p

I'm not sure.

Still awaiting finalization of my territorial area and now my stats to go with it.

Russika Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539461)

Still got military to do, though I think we are waiting for equipment. I can write the numbers though if needed for stats however.

Also, it is very important you read my history, as my nation is officially a Socialist Republic, but it does not target or abuse religion due to a truce signed between the religious leaders and the political power, Viktor. This is so peace and happiness is kept within the country...

And finally, my diplomacy scales were designed to reflect the actual feelings after the war. For example, I put strained relations for countries located in the United States, because even if they are not actually the US, the recent history will still make us dislike them slightly. And I put friendly for former Communist (or current Communist) powers, and for countries who have resources I desire. However, I assume most people just put neutral for everyone, I just thought this would create a more strained and uneasy effect to foreign affairs in the world - which is always fun.

heres My fact book

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13077220#post13077220

Heres My fact book again

It's about average, the only reason VDB's is higher is because of the heavy taxation he imposes on ships passing through the Straights of Gibralter.

Actually I lowered it because of all of the complaints.

I would like Sierra Leone and Liberia.

I would like Sierra Leone and Liberia.

I think someone claimed that already.

I would like Sierra Leone and Liberia.

Um, a guy named Tejas literally just claimed those exact places. And this thread is closed. Sorry. Unless, are you Tejas's puppet account?

Actually I lowered it because of all of the complaints.

How much did you lower it by?

Damn......I can't wait any longer......Now have you chosen all your MODs yet?

Yeah, Trem is our general mod (he isn't in the game though), Sel Appa is our banker (see a few pages back, there's an important rule there), and Lachenburg is our training world mod.

My factbook is not fully completed, but it'll be done soon.

Heres My fact book again

Uaegoslavia:

NHP: 74%
NFP: 72%
TYI: $4,290,000,000 (+10% for Merchant trait)
NLP: 41%

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13082418#post13082418


can i get my info please? thx

I can't until you choose your traits.

Could I just ask, what condition is China in at the beginning of the rp?

The only effected nations are the USA and USSR. China and Cuba are to the Soviets as the UK and France are to the USA. All of these two superpowers' allies are unharmed.

edit: timewarp

Could I just ask, what condition is China in at the beginning of the rp?

Sorry Ant, I'm gonna have to bow out of this
I can't get a factboook up until at least Thursday and it isn't fair to get such an extension.

Good luck with the RP!

Honako:

NHP: 67% (+5% for Industrialist)
NFP: 79% (+10% for Agriculturalists, -5% for Industrialist)
TYI: $3,700,000,000
NLP: 37%

Sorry Ant, I'm gonna have to bow out of this
I can't get a factboook up until at least Thursday and it isn't fair to get such an extension.

Good luck with the RP!

Thursday huh? I can give you a couple more days if you really need um. I'd like to keep you in this RP since your probably one of the better RPers here.

I've been thinking Antigonal, I am not really for controlling the entire Carribbean, especially with Cuba's role in the mid 1960s.

Therefore, can I switch my claim to being Greece and then across the way in Asia Minor? It would be similar to Sparta and Athen's controlled areas in the height of the Classical Age.

Is that okay?

Working on my factbook, but want to know can I say that Denmark is essentially considered rightfully in my control, but without me having any visible control yet?

I've been thinking Antigonal, I am not really for controlling the entire Carribbean, especially with Cuba's role in the mid 1960s.

Therefore, can I switch my claim to being Greece and then across the way in Asia Minor? It would be similar to Sparta and Athen's controlled areas in the height of the Classical Age.

Is that okay?

It's kinda late now... I could give you Alversia's former possesions (I'll update the map with them later). You'd still need to get a factbook up pronto though.

Working on my factbook, but want to know can I say that Denmark is essentially considered rightfully in my control, but without me having any visible control yet?

Sorry, you can maybe claim Denmark or rule it nominally, but you don't control it or it's people.

Sorry, you can maybe claim Denmark or rule it nominally, but you don't control it or it's people.You essentially said what I sawsaying in that I was implying I claim it, but do not excerise visible control, ruling in public and having nothing more then a couple spies really and maybe some public alignment to my nation.

You essentially said what I sawsaying in that I was implying I claim it, but do not excerise visible control, ruling in public and having nothing more then a couple spies really and maybe some public alignment to my nation.

I'm sorry, I misunderstood you. I thought you were trying to add Denmark's income and population to your own in your factbook. The vast majority would not consider you their ruler and would probably go about their daily business, but you can claim it.

I updated both the maps... but I still forgot to add the thing about the radical Protestants in La Coruna, Spain. Sorry. If you haven't already sent it to me today, make sure you get your factbook to me today before the clock strikes midnight and my carriage turns back into a pumpkin...

Anybody got any idea what the 1965 population of the Nile Delta region and the Sinai Peninsula would be?

I updated both the maps... but I still forgot to add the thing about the radical Protestants in La Coruna, Spain. Sorry. If you haven't already sent it to me today, make sure you get your factbook to me today before the clock strikes midnight and my carriage turns back into a pumpkin...

Anybody got any idea what the 1965 population of the Nile Delta region and the Sinai Peninsula would be?

On populstat, go to the links at the bottom: urban or provinces. Just add together what you need. Full Egypt is about 29 million then, so I'd go with 20-25 million. Most people live along the Nile. My factbook is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539011), but still needs some history added.

Antigonal, considering my population is 51 million, i don't see why I am earning much lesser income that those who have 12 million people by 1 trillion dollars? Is this a big joke?

Antigonal, considering my population is 51 million, i don't see why I am earning much lesser income that those who have 12 million people by 1 trillion dollars? Is this a big joke?

Who in this game has a trillion dollars? The reason you have less than some others is the lack of valuabe resources the Ukraine has. The average income will be from 3 to 5 billion. Anyone above that must have something special going for them. I have control of the Suez Canal and immense oil supplies. VDB has the Staits of Gibralter.

Kansiov:

NHP: 67% (+5% for Industrialist)
NFP: 79% (+10% for Agriculturalists, -5% for Industrialist)
TYI: $3,700,000,000
NLP: 37%

... and I am not Industralist and Agriculturalist!

Kansiov:

NFP: 72% (-5% for Artist trait)
NHP: 86% (+10% for Artist, +5% for Scientist)
TYI: $4,100,000,000
NLP: 47%

nvm... I found my old one...

nvm... I found my old one...

OH! My bad! Are you the Ukraine or France? This is totally my fault, I keep getting everyone mixed up.

By the way Sel Appa, I couldn't find those specific populations but I just decided to make it 15,000,000

Sorry, I was mixing you up with Honako, totally my fault. Sorry again.

edit: Honako, your info is on page 23.

Hey everyone, I just updated the rules to include a section on military pricing, please check it. I also made a section for factbooks on the first page, not including my own, there are currently seven. If I don't have the rest by tomorrow I start kicking. Sorry, it's only fair.

And here is my starting gift to everyone: every nation has a $100,000,000 gift certificate to buy any kind of troops they want. You cannot use this money for anything but military. Please start keeping track of ALL expenses on your factbook. If you do not, you will be kicked from the game. Just keep track as you go.

If I am not going to spend all of the $100m may i use them in other areas?

If I am not going to spend all of the $100m may i use them in other areas?

How about this, you must spend 80% of it right away on military. The other $20,000,000 (or less) can be added to your first payday (this Monday). If you choose this second path do not add the 20 mil to your TYI, this is your income, not your budget. Since you will not be getting this 20 million back every three years, it is one time.

On Monday you can all set up your Finances/Economy section of your factbooks. Here you will record all your buying and spending. Every three Mondays you add your TYI to your existing funds. Your existing funds are currently $0, this is unless you choose to keep the $20,000,000.

OOC: It's a pretty good idea you have here. Good luck with it.

OOC: It's a pretty good idea you have here. Good luck with it.

Thanks, we're starting in two days and so-far-so-good.

Factbook:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13093143#post13093143

Hey everyone, I just updated the rules to include a section on military pricing, please check it. I also made a section for factbooks on the first page, not including my own, there are currently seven. If I don't have the rest by tomorrow I start kicking. Sorry, it's only fair.

And here is my starting gift to everyone: every nation has a $100,000,000 gift certificate to buy any kind of troops they want. You cannot use this money for anything but military. Please start keeping track of ALL expenses on your factbook. If you do not, you will be kicked from the game. Just keep track as you go.

Isn't it supposed to be $100,000,000,000. Otherwise we cannot by Carriers.

Sooo...We have to spend 80% on Military automaticly?

You've been given a check for $100 billion. You must spend at least $80 billion of it on military.

On military, my factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539011) may be of use to help. The average armored division has 300 tanks, so that's what I'm going with. We should set the transport to carry maybe 100 troops. The real C-130s apparently can carry 94 passengers, which seems a bit low to me, but whatever. We could always change it to follow a regular commercial plane's capacity: about 500.

Sel Appa, Not to burst your Bubble but,

He gave us 100 Million

Not Billion, You may want to re-do your Purchases.

Here's my factbook

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13077522&highlight=Tynlandia#post13077522

Suggestion

New Military units

Artillery Battery (4 Artillery)---- 2million
Self Propelled Artillery (1 Artillery)---- 1 million
SAMs (6 SAM Sites)---- 10 million
Corvettes---- 30 million

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13093643&posted=1#post13093643

My factbook. Not 100% finished, but close. Anyway, awaiting stats.

Just a question, will we really have 100 bil to spend on Monday?

i've not been able to find this thread and nw i did

what's been going on?

Honako:

NHP: 67% (+5% for Industrialist)
NFP: 79% (+10% for Agriculturalists, -5% for Industrialist)
TYI: $3,700,000,000
NLP: 37%

I must say, from my large population and looking at the CIA world factbook and my natural resources which includes oil, I was expecting better, but then I know little about the workings of economies. Though, does the fact that 85% of Russian gas/oil passes through the Ukraine count for anything (for example do I get a flat payment or can I charge for this) or is the fact that Russia is in dissarray mean that basically the oil and gas is stuck in the country?

I must say, from looking at the CIA world factbook and my natural resources, I was expecting better, but then I know little about the workings of economies. Though, does the fact that 85% of Russian gas/oil passes through the Ukraine count for anything (for example do I get a flat payment or can I charge for this) or is the fact that Russia is in dissarray mean that basically the oil and gas is stuck in the country?

I suppose so, I was expecting better for france as well. Btw TG for you.

i've not been able to find this thread and nw i did

what's been going on?

There are several things going on, but the most important thing is the fact that you have to get your factbook up or you will be kicked.

There are several things going on, but the most important thing is the fact that you have to get your factbook up or you will be kicked.

i did get it up

I suppose so, I was expecting better for france as well. Btw TG for you.

Oh, I didn't notice that. I've replied now.

i did get it up

Could you link it here again?

You've been given a check for $100 billion. You must spend at least $80 billion of it on military.

On military, my factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539011) may be of use to help. The average armored division has 300 tanks, so that's what I'm going with. We should set the transport to carry maybe 100 troops. The real C-130s apparently can carry 94 passengers, which seems a bit low to me, but whatever. We could always change it to follow a regular commercial plane's capacity: about 500.

No, I meant $100,000,000. Weapons are extremely limited after the great war and our economies are still growing.

Suggestion

New Military units

Artillery Battery (4 Artillery)---- 2million
Self Propelled Artillery (1 Artillery)---- 1 million
SAMs (6 SAM Sites)---- 10 million
Corvettes---- 30 million

Sounds good. Thanks for the help. They will come on the market starting Monday, as for now, since some people have already used their 100 million dollar grant, let's stick with what we have already.

Antigonal so are we really having $100 bil to spend on Monday?

Antigonal so are we really having $100 bil to spend on Monday?

Monday is everyone's first "payday." Currently (unless you chose to save some of that $100,000,000 grant) we all have $0.00. Starting Monday, you will get however much money your TYI is. So if it is $100 bil, you will get $100 bil, though I don't think anyone's is nearly that low. If you chose to save the 20% or less of your military grant, this can be added to your first payday and your first payday only. Do not add it to your TYI as that is your income, not your budget.

Ok, what is the intrest in the bank btw?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539054&highlight=Armenia

Here it is

Tell me what I need to put into it now, please.

Ok, what is the intrest in the bank btw?

We haven't set it up yet, Sel Appa and I need to talk...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539054&highlight=Armenia

Here it is

Tell me what I need to put into it now, please.

New Brittonia's Stats:

NHP: 78% (+5% for Industrialist)
NFP: 69% (-5% for Industrialist)
TYI: $4,000,000,000
NLP: 43%

By the way all, just to let you know, when I say things like (+5 for Artist) or (-5 for Industrialist), I have already factored those numbers in. No need to do it twice. For example, if your NFP was 76% and you're an agriculturist, it means it was originally 66% and added the 10% myself.

New Brittonia's Stats:

NHP: 78% (+5% for Industrialist)
NFP: 69% (-5% for Industrialist)
TYI: $4,000,000,000
NLP: 43%

By the way all, just to let you know, when I say things like (+5 for Artist) or (-5 for Industrialist), I have already factored those numbers in. No need to do it twice. For example, if your NFP was 76% and you're an agriculturist, it means it was originally 66% and added the 10% myself.


Thank you,

now what is with the 100 billon dollars and what to the symbols mean?

Sel Appa, Not to burst your Bubble but,

He gave us 100 Million

Not Billion, You may want to re-do your Purchases.

Here's my factbook

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13077522&highlight=Tynlandia#post13077522

He said 100 billion on the OP. How else could we possibly buy carriers or anything really? 100 million is far too low.
Each nation starts with just a petty $100,000,000,000 (a hundred bil). Then, depending on your national resources, you can get several million, billion, or perhaps even trillion more of those dollar bills.


Anti, I still need a factbook eval...or do you need the history completed?

Also, just tell me what I need to do as banker.

Okay, Cymrea, I'm giving you an extension on your factbook (if you need it) since I only just updated the map to include your nation. My bad.

Ghassan, if you want to switch to being that light, light purple color in the Balkans from being the Caribbean, tell me now. You need to have your factbook up very soon.

Everyone else, good job on getting your factbooks in on time.

What symbols? Every player gets 100 million dollars to start out with to spend on their military (see brand spankin' new military section in rules for details). All weapons have the same price. You have 100 million dollars to spend on them. You have to spend at least 80% of this right away. You can keep $20,000,000 or less if you want, just don't add it to your TYI (that's your income, not your budget). For the future, if you're buying things and not keeping track of purchases and spending in a finance section of your factbook, you will be kicked from the game.

NHP:
NFP:
TYI:
NLP:

okay... i'l spend it now

Thank you,

now what is with the 100 billon dollars and what to the symbols mean?

What symbols? Every player gets 100 million dollars to start out with to spend on their military (see brand spankin' new military section in rules for details). All weapons have the same price. You have 100 million dollars to spend on them. You have to spend at least 80% of this right away. You can keep $20,000,000 or less if you want, just don't add it to your TYI (that's your income, not your budget). For the future, if you're buying things and not keeping track of purchases and spending in a finance section of your factbook, you will be kicked from the game.

Factbook:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13093143#post13093143Was wondering on wether this is good and also to ask what were my stats?

Was wondering on weather this is good and also to ask what were my stats?

Scand:

NHP: 67%
NFP: 68%
TYI: $3,700,000,000
NLP: 37%

Hmm, and mine? Hopefully the factbook is okay.

Hmm, and mine? Hopefully the factbook is okay.

Weccanfeld:

NHP: 74%
NFP: 77%
TYI: $3,800,000,000
NLP: 41%

edit: everyone should be copying these stats into their respective factbooks by the way.

Scand:

NHP: 67%
NFP: 68%
TYI: $3,700,000,000
NLP: 37%NFP?

So.....

What are my stats?

This doesn't look half-bad, count me in.

So, there is a 'training world'? Well, sure, that works, even if it sort of lame.

NFP?

NFP = National Food Percentage (sorry, we changed it)
NLP = National Loyalty Percentage
TYI = Three Year Income
NHP = National Happiness Percentage

This doesn't look half-bad, count me in.

So, there is a 'training world'? Well, sure, that works, even if it sort of lame.

The first training world should start next Monday, I'm waiting for Lachenburg to do some recruiting, I'm this close to kicking him. He's only been on like twice and he never made a factbook...

So.....

What are my stats?

Tynlandia:

NHP: 73% (+5% for Scientist trait)
NFP: 78%
TYI: $3,800,000,000
NLP: 40%

Moor, check TGs.

I've added my stats to my factbook, just to let you know.

Also, again, what state is China and Russia in at the moment, politically (eg have they broken up into their individual provinces, etc)?

What symbols? Every player gets 100 million dollars to start out with to spend on their military (see brand spankin' new military section in rules for details). All weapons have the same price. You have 100 million dollars to spend on them. You have to spend at least 80% of this right away. You can keep $20,000,000 or less if you want, just don't add it to your TYI (that's your income, not your budget). For the future, if you're buying things and not keeping track of purchases and spending in a finance section of your factbook, you will be kicked from the game.

You still have not addressed the fact that the OP says $100 billion and reiterates $100 billion and then further indirectly reinforces that by saying trainees get $500 million. Again, I state that you can't buy much of a military with only $100 million. One transport aircraft and 65% of your money is shot.

May I please buy the following?

Infantry (group of 100,000) -- $10 million
Infantry (group of 50,000) -- $5 million

May I please buy the following?

Infantry (group of 100,000) -- $10 million
Infantry (group of 50,000) -- $5 million

Put your expenditures in your factbook.

May I please buy the following?

Infantry (group of 100,000) -- $10 million
Infantry (group of 50,000) -- $5 million

Not unless you're using your 100 mil grant. No buying with your income funds until the RP starts tomorrow.

Put your expenditures in your factbook.By the way how will international commerce work?

You still have not addressed the fact that the OP says $100 billion and reiterates $100 billion and then further indirectly reinforces that by saying trainees get $500 million. Again, I state that you can't buy much of a military with only $100 million. One transport aircraft and 65% of your money is shot.

It's just your beginning military grant. It's not meant to give you a massive build up, it's meant to give you a small land army to defend yourself. You can buy more things when you have your first payday tomorrow.

The grant should allow you to build a couple tank divisions, maybe a small airforce, and a good sized standing army.

Not unless you're using your 100 mil grant. No buying with your income funds until the RP starts tomorrow.Yeap, I am using part of it so I have some military forces.:p

By the way how will international commerce work?

If you have a valuable resource, such as gold, I have factored into your TYI. If you for some reason manage to increase the number of buyers, the price, or make a trade pact that allows you and all the other gold producers of the world to band together and jack up prices, that will also increase your TYI.

Yeap, I am using part of it so I have some military forces.:p

Okay, that's fine then. You do know you have to use at least 80% of the 100 mil right away on military. You can save $20,000,000 or more if you want, but you don't have to.

Sel, we need to start workin' on this world bank, you free right now?

Is there another way to make money other than the Annual Three Year Income?

Like trading and such?

Is there another way to make money other than the Annual Three Year Income?

Like trading and such?

Most of your trade has been factored into your TYI, however, if you make a big one time deal, you can get a one time lump sum of money that won't add to your TYI, but will give you some cash. An example, I sell Qatar to a Lachenburg or I sell 50 million barrels of oil to Kansiov to fuel his war. However since 50 million barrels of oil are gone from my oilfields, it may decrease my TYI.

If you have a valuable resource, such as gold, I have factored into your TYI. If you for some reason manage to increase the number of buyers, the price, or make a trade pact that allows you and all the other gold producers of the world to band together and jack up prices, that will also increase your TYI.Well, I do have oil:p, copper, silver, iron, aluminium, and natural gas so I do have

We can';t open bussinesses like Arm's Manufacturing, etc.?

We can';t open bussinesses like Arm's Manufacturing, etc.?

How about this, in your finance section, you can have an "Investments" portion. In this portion you can give some of your income to national industries. The more you give, the more your TYI will increase over time. However, there are risks to investing. You might invest all your money in Arms Manufacturing and then no wars will break out for over a year. In this case you might only get a small return on your investment if anything at all. I don't know how we would determine your return though...

We might as well not change it now. Lets just keep it the normal way, it's confusing in the first place, I don't think my brain will function if we include this.

We might as well not change it now. Lets just keep it the normal way, it's confusing in the first place, I don't think my brain will function if we include this.

Haha, sounds good. Everyone, disregard that last post about investments.

Instead of starting the RP tomorrow morning, I'm thinking about starting later today. Don't feel rushed or alarmed anyone, if you can't start untilt tomorrow that's fine too. We won't be getting our paydays until tomorrow anyway. I was just thinking since most of us have things to do on Mondays, we might as well kick off RP and IC tonight. Though we can't spend any money yet, we can begin diplomacy.

Does anyone still have any interest in starting an off site forum? And does anyone want the position of training world mod? It shouldn't be too much work and Lachenburg, as usual, bailed on us.

It's just your beginning military grant. It's not meant to give you a massive build up, it's meant to give you a small land army to defend yourself. You can buy more things when you have your first payday tomorrow.

The grant should allow you to build a couple tank divisions, maybe a small airforce, and a good sized standing army.

Ok then, but you should fix it on the OP. That's why I keep bringing it up.

Sel, we need to start workin' on this world bank, you free right now?
I'm always free...sorta. Do you have AIM, MSN, or IRC?

I can't until you choose your traits.

Traits: warrior and expansionist

Linky: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13082418#post13082418

I also need my factbook evaluated for like the fifth time. It's ok though, you've been overwhelmed.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539011

I also need my factbook evaluated for like the fifth time. It's ok though, you've been overwhelmed.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539011

Yeah, sorry. Thanks for understanding.

Okay, here you go Sel:

NHP: 71%
NFP: 82% (+10% for Agriculturist trait)
TYI: $3,400,000,000
NLP: 39%

Traits: warrior and expansionist

Linky: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13082418#post13082418

Ebedron:

NHP: 77%
NFP: 66%
TYI: $3,800,000,000
NLP: 42%

Sel, could you set up a banking thread? There would be like a Regular Account, a Plus Account, a Silver Account, a Gold Account, and a Premium.

Regular would be for $500,000,000 and $1,000,000,000 and would compound a 15% interest every three years.

Plus would be for $1,000,000,000 to $2,500,000,000 and would compound 10% interest every three years.

Silver would be for $2,500,000,000 to $5,000,000,000 and would compound 5% interest every three years.

Gold would be for $5,000,000,000 to $10,000,000,000 and would compound 5% interest every three years.

Premium would be for $10,000,000,000+ and would compound 7% interest every three years.

Then there could a sort of CD. It would only be for $8,000,000,000+ and would compound 10% interest every three years. The only hitch is that you can only withdraw every three years (every payday). If you don't withdraw it then, it goes back for into the account for another three years where it is inaccessable.

Interest should increase as you put more in the bank, not vice versa. The bank pays more when it has more to loan out. :) See I already am showing my hard-core bank knowledge.

Interest should increase as you put more in the bank, not vice versa. The bank pays more when it has more to loan out. :) See I already am showing my hard-core bank knowledge.

Haha, okay sounds good. You can take it from there I guess, just use the basic guidelines. I would like to keep the same principles for the CD in particular, feel free to change the amount of interest though.

Haha, okay sounds good. You can take it from there I guess, just use the basic guidelines. I would like to keep the same principles for the CD in particular, feel free to change the amount of interest though.

What do you mean by CD and we get our first TYI tomorrow right?

What do you mean by CD and we get our first TYI tomorrow right?

Yes we do.

A banking CD, the kind you put money on that gains interest rapidly. The only drawback is that the money can't be withdrawn for an extended period of time.

when we start the game what else can the money go to becides miltary. Can we spend it on social programs, efucation, etc.

Also, shoudn't embassies amd consulates have a cost (either a flat cost or an annual maintanance cost)?

when we start the game what else can the money go to becides miltary. Can we spend it on social programs, efucation, etc.

Also, shoudn't embassies amd consulates have a cost (either a flat cost or an annual maintanance cost)?

Embassies and consulates are negligable.

You can spend money on social programs and education. You can make a section fo your Finances for National Projects or whatever you want to call it. These will have benefits later on, the most immediate of which is to raise your NHP.

Please check if this is right:


9/30/2007- Initial Purchace

Infantry (Group of 100.000) (2)- $20 million
Tank (Group of 30)- $30 million
Helicopter (Group of 10)- $15 million
Fighter (Group of 10)- $25 Million

-Subtotal-
$100 million given
$90 million spent

$10 million remaining

Yes we do.

A banking CD, the kind you put money on that gains interest rapidly. The only drawback is that the money can't be withdrawn for an extended period of time.

Oh! Certificate of Deposit. I think we should just do straight up interest. Nothing too fancy or this gets far too complicated.

Oh! Certificate of Deposit. I think we should just do straight up interest. Nothing too fancy or this gets far too complicated.

Haha! Did you think I meant like a physical music CD?

Okay, I'll take your opinion on this. When do you think you can have this thread up by?

Please check if this is right:


9/30/2007- Initial Purchace

Infantry (Group of 100.000) (2)- $20 million
Tank (Group of 30)- $30 million
Helicopter (Group of 10)- $15 million
Fighter (Group of 10)- $25 Million

-Subtotal-
$100 million given
$90 million spent

$10 million remaining

Yeah that's fine. Now you just have 10 million left over to add to your first payday (tomorrow). Remember not to add it to your TYI though.

I would like to change to that light, light purple color, and I should have my factbook up soon. When do you need it in by?

Preferably before tomorrow Ghassan, but because of all the confusion I'll accept it anytime tomorrow.

Oh that is fine, I should have it in by today, probably in the next hours or so.

Oh that is fine, I should have it in by today, probably in the next hours or so.

Great.

If I'm the Training world MOD can I still be in the main RP?

and what would I do?

If I'm the Training world MOD can I still be in the main RP?

and what would I do?

Yeah, you'd still be in this world. You'd just be in charge of getting the we ones set up (I'd help with this bit) and at the end, you'd RP Dictator Salisbury (the guy who drove them into the wastelands in the first place) who is trying to reimpose his power over the rebels. We'd probably only do two training rounds. One where we can get as many players as we can and awarding three spots to the top three. And a second, smaller one, which would only have one or two winners.

I'm a little busy, so nevermind.

Thanks anyway

I'm a little busy, so nevermind.

Thanks anyway

That's okay. Training world mod? Training world mod, anyone? Great deal, hardly used.

I wanted to do a different MOD but they where all taken. I want to do something big though.


Can we strt in like Ten Minutes :P

I wanted to do a different MOD but they where all taken. I want to do something big though.


Can we strt in like Ten Minutes :P

Let's start in an hour, give people a bit more time. Remember you can only RP tonight, you don't get your payday until tomorrow.

Sure no problem. It's just one of those sundays when there i absolutley nothing to do.

Here is my factbook Antigonal. It needs critiques.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13094927#post13094927

How 'bout now?

Can we start now?

How 'bout now?

Can we start now?

Yes indeedy. I just wanna say that I'm very impressed how far we took this RP, 30 pages in one week is pretty crazy. RP and IC will start now!

Here is my factbook Antigonal. It needs critiques.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13094927#post13094927

Ghassan's stats (paste in factbook):

NHP: 75%
NFP: 82% (+10% for Agriculturist trait)
TYI: $4,000,000,000
NLP: 41%

The United Arab States wishes to establish diplomatic relations with the glorious nation of Gibralter. Seeing as both are nations control the only access points to the the Mediterranean Sea, it seems a natural relationship.

Muhammad al-Malik
President of the United Arab States

Campiagn Plans:

35,000 Denmark
60,000 Finland

Cost: $510,000 Million A Year

Campiagn Plans:

35,000 Denmark
60,000 Finland

Cost: $510,000 Million A Year

Sounds good, quite a bit of RPing though.

I put the Event Thread up, it's linked on this thread's front page.

Is my religion okay?

Religion
60% Atheist (Objectivist)
33% Orthodox Christian
7% Greater Islam

Is my religion okay?

Religion
60% Atheist (Objectivist)
33% Orthodox Christian
7% Greater Islam

There are also a few of the last remaining radical Sufis there.

Just a slight error, although it is technically correct, is that it should be World War IV, not IIII. Again, IIII has been seen, it's just not standard.

Antigonal i have my factbook up i showed it to u remeber

Just a slight error, although it is technically correct, is that it should be World War IV, not IIII. Again, IIII has been seen, it's just not standard.

Haha, thanks, I'm an idiot, I know.

EDIT: How's the banking thread coming? I'd like to have it up before our first payday.

Antigonal i have my factbook up i showed it to u remeber

Could you link it to me again please?

i till have to do some changes to it beacause i have modern equipment in my military and stuff but everything else is good

I found it but a lot of things need to be fixed. Not just the military technology, but it's size as well. Read the last few page to catch up...

yea i kno i got to fix that too

specifically what number cause its moves really fast in one day it was like on page 17 then the next 23

specifically what number cause its moves really fast in one day it was like on page 17 then the next 23

Lemme try to summarize. In the rules, there is now a military section. It prices all military weapons (see rules for details). Everyone just got 100 million dollars that they must spend, right away on military. Tomorrow we all get our first payday, then you start getting income. I still need to give you your NHP, TYI, and so forth. I'll post yours soon, right now I think you're the last one without them.

By the way, the religion map is now up.

Angaor's Stats:

NHP (National Happiness Percentage): 70% (+5% for Scientist trait)
NFP (National Food Percentage): 78%
TYI (Three Year Income): $4,200,000,000
NLP (National Loyalty Percentage): 38%

By the way, your "(+5% for Scientist trait)" has already been factored in, it's just to let you know. Paste this info into your factbook. Tomorrow you get your first "payday", that's when you get your first TYI.

There are also a few of the last remaining radical Sufis there.

How's this
32% Orthodox
5% Greater Islam
3% Sufi Mystic

How's this
32% Orthodox
5% Greater Islam
3% Sufi Mystic

Um, it doesn't exactly add to 100%, but you're off to a good start :D. Sure, whatever you think is fair.

Does every player with a factbook have their stats yet? I think I gave them to everyone. I see Honako's factbook doesn't have it but I know I gave you yours a few pages back. I don't remember the exact figures but I could do it again if you want. There was some confusion between you and Kansiov.

i have everything ready except my religion stats

i have everything ready except my religion stats

Just look at the religion map and decide what you think is fair. You can run it by me if you aren't sure. I'll check your factbook sometime and if I think it's unrealistic I will say so. Don't forget to do a bried national history too.

and Antigonal would you be interested in establish an Defense Pact with my nation

Just look at the religion map and decide what you think is fair. You can run it by me if you aren't sure. I'll check your factbook sometime and if I think it's unrealistic I will say so. Don't forget to do a bried national history too.

alright i think i almost edited everything out so it can work with the rules

and Antigonal would you be interested in establish an Defense Pact with my nation

Sure, but we'd need to do it IC.

Um, it doesn't exactly add to 100%, but you're off to a good start :D. Sure, whatever you think is fair.



I kept it at 60% Atheist

that sounded like a Demitri Martin thing

I kept it at 60% Atheist

that sounded like a Demitri Martin thing

Haha, I don't exactly see it but I'll take it as a compliment. I'm a huge Demitri Martin fan.

Sure, but we'd need to do it IC.

alright then

alright then

Sorry, I gotta be firm on this. One of the biggest reasons the last thread I participated in died was because people refused to stay IC.

We should probably wait till tomorrow though, I feel bad starting early, I don't think everyone got the memo so to speak...

alright yea i agree with u we will stay IC with so well we start on it tommorow then

Haha, I don't exactly see it but I'll take it as a compliment. I'm a huge Demitri Martin fan.

kind of random

(i need to find a demitri martin joke to put here)


anyways, is that all right to put on my factbook?

Please for the luvvagawd post my stats, already. I've asked at least twice, possibly three times and I read post after post where others are given their info and I see none for Cascadia.

It's kind of you to offer me an extension, particularly when I lack the information to complete it. I know you have a ton of stuff going on...I can read it...but if I'm going to spend the time and effort to RP in this thread, then I would appreciate them being acknowledged. I don't mean to sound snippy, but it's been growing increasingly irksome over the last week or so, and come on, fair's fair.

So include me, dammit! :D


Love,
Cymrea.

Hehe, when are you getting on MSN?

I have two problems - firstly, with the TYI. I don't understand why countries which have less arable land, about 1/10 of the population, and without my large oil, coal and metal supplies are richer than me. Personally, I think $3.7 million (or whatever it is) as I have now just seems low compared to others. Also, as I asked before, does the fact that Russian oil goes through my land mean I can charge a payment, or does that just not happen after the war?

Secondly, why is my food percentage equal to Japan and lower than Mongolia...this just seems to make such little logical sense in terms of geography.

Please for the luvvagawd post my stats, already. I've asked at least twice, possibly three times and I read post after post where others are given their info and I see none for Cascadia.

It's kind of you to offer me an extension, particularly when I lack the information to complete it. I know you have a ton of stuff going on...I can read it...but if I'm going to spend the time and effort to RP in this thread, then I would appreciate them being acknowledged. I don't mean to sound snippy, but it's been growing increasingly irksome over the last week or so, and come on, fair's fair.

So include me, dammit! :D


Love,
Cymrea.

I don't follow you. You're already are in, you know. Your country is on the map. You're set to go. Once you choose your traits and link me your factbook so I can give you your stats you can start RPing.

I have two problems - firstly, with the TYI. I don't understand why countries which have less arable land, about 1/10 of the population, and without my large oil, coal and metal supplies are richer than me. Personally, I think $3.7 million (or whatever it is) as I have now just seems low compared to others. Also, as I asked before, does the fact that Russian oil goes through my land mean I can charge a payment, or does that just not happen after the war?

Secondly, why is my food percentage equal to Japan and lower than Mongolia...this just seems to make such little logical sense in terms of geography.

Mongolia has a lot of arable land.

No, Russian oil does not move through your land. Russia does not exist.

Send me your stats again and I'll look them over a second time.

Mongolia has a lot of arable land.

No, Russian oil does not move through your land. Russia does not exist.

Send me your stats again and I'll look them over a second time.

NHP: 67% (+5% for Industrialist)
NFP: 79% (+10% for Agriculturalists, -5% for Industrialist)
TYI: $3,700,000,000
NLP: 37%

Thank's for informing me about the oil. I know Russia does not exist, my question was whether the oil-lines did or whether they were destroyed in the war in essence. I'm not trying to have a go at you about the TYI thing, I just don't understand how it's worked out, and basically how I became poorer than Greece (considering a service based economy would have been largely damaged during the war so I assume natural resources are important).

NHP: 67% (+5% for Industrialist)
NFP: 79% (+10% for Agriculturalists, -5% for Industrialist)
TYI: $3,700,000,000
NLP: 37%

Thank's for informing me about the oil. I know Russia does not exist, my question was whether the oil-lines did or whether they were destroyed in the war in essence. I'm not trying to have a go at you about the TYI thing, I just don't understand how it's worked out, and basically how I became poorer than Greece (considering a service based economy would have been largely damaged during the war so I assume natural resources are important).

The pipelines do not exist anymore. Also, 90% of your income comes from luxury resources and other things like that. Not so much from industry which has been equally damaged the world over.

But I do think I dealt you unfairly in terms of TYI, how about +$150,000,000, that would put you among the highest of the average range.

By the way all, if you haven't already, give yourself your first payday. Basically your economy goes from $0 to whatever amount your TYI is. This will happen every three Mondays. This means this money must last you until OCTOBER 22. Let's try not to all go bankrupt in the first round :p.

Now, goodluck men and let's have a good one!

I have two problems - firstly, with the TYI. I don't understand why countries which have less arable land, about 1/10 of the population, and without my large oil, coal and metal supplies are richer than me. Personally, I think $3.7 million (or whatever it is) as I have now just seems low compared to others. Also, as I asked before, does the fact that Russian oil goes through my land mean I can charge a payment, or does that just not happen after the war?

Secondly, why is my food percentage equal to Japan and lower than Mongolia...this just seems to make such little logical sense in terms of geography.

Mongolia has a lot of arable land.

No, Russian oil does not move through your land. Russia does not exist.

Send me your stats again and I'll look them over a second time.

Actually we have like none, but loads of herders that do have surpluses.


By the way, I'm starting to think that maybe the role of banker should be to just monitor finances, not bother with loans and interest. It just makes it too complicated on a message board.

Open to Embassies, FTA, Consulates. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539118) wOOT wOOT!!

RANDOM RUMOR: A FTA with Gilbraltar earns you free passes through the strait? Any truth? Find Out! :p

Actually we have like none, but loads of herders that do have surpluses.


By the way, I'm starting to think that maybe the role of banker should be to just monitor finances, not bother with loans and interest. It just makes it too complicated on a message board.

Are you sure? Banks might be interesting...

Open to Embassies, FTA, Consulates. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539118) wOOT wOOT!!

RANDOM RUMOR: A FTA with Gilbraltar earns you free passes through the strait? Any truth? Find Out! :p

OOC: I responded.

Are you sure? Banks might be interesting...

It's all a great idea, but it's just too complex to keep track of on a forum, especially one that isn't separated like an offsite one.

how much do i get to spend on military equipment i almost forgot about it

so i just buy it here right

Two things: One, Population-as of 1960 right? Two, Military 100 mill, can we spend our 100 bill money on that as well?

how much do i get to spend on military equipment i almost forgot about it

100 million dollar military grant.

3 infantry group of 100,000
1 tank group
1 helicopter
1 fighter

Thanks, but you can just keep track of it all on a finance section of your factbook.

alright just want to run it by you

Two things: One, Population-as of 1960 right? Two, Military 100 mill, can we spend our 100 bill money on that as well?

Uh huh, population of 1965. You all get a 100 million dollar military grant to start. Now, since we have all gotten are first payday, you can spend your own money now too. So if that's what you mean by "our 100 bill", yes.