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***Orzian Press Release***

It is announced today that the Orzian military, in an effort to develop new weapon designs faster, has an open offer to any other nation interested. Any nation that applies will share in the research and development costs, but also be able to keep and produce any design that is deemed operational.

The Orzian government has set aside an initial $100 billion for this project.


ooc: Basically, I'd like some help in developing some new stuff.

We here at United WeaponsTech would be happy to assist you in developing new weaponry. We have a research facility complete with free fire ranges on the island of Ugotini, a recent acquisition that we are sharing with two other members of our government's alliance, the United Defense Directorate. A map will be provided shortly.

OOC: Just won the island in an auction and decided to make it a lab for my primary arms manufacturer. Myself and two other UDD members collaborated on a bid. Seeing as I bid the most, I have a good chunk of the island set aside. They're adding in their parts now.

The Republic of Kanami would like you as a partner

Ruthless Slaughter & Kanami, your nations are noted and accepted.


ooc: Um, so what now? I'm not really sure how to RP R&D here.

The Alfegos Ministry of War is interested in a partnership with your nation in research and development.
We are able to provide facilities and ideal testing grounds.

ooc: Um, so what now? I'm not really sure how to RP R&D here.

[OOC: For the overwhelming part, R&D isn't RPed, for a great many reasons. Heck, it's barely given a footnote in most designs. Anywho, most of the R&D that's been RPed has been...flawed, to say the least, so you'd be blazing into virgin country if you want to do a good R&D RP.]

OOC: basically its best to just get together with the others on an IM or via IRC chat or somethign of that sort, talk about concepts, make a basic idea, and then do some research that could back up your ideas to round it out. I do this all the time :p.

Stevid would be willing to help you in military designs and procurement. We have an excellent military history and have some of the best naval and air developments. We'd be happy to help you with your own designs.

OOC: Check out my MoD forum in my signature below. Everything in there has been either designed by me or has been designed by someone else and i've bought it. otherwise it is RL but the majority of the stuff there has been designed by me.... needs updating in places though.

ooc: Thanks Juumanistra & SaintB for explaining. I've already got some ideas with a few stats, but was wanting that explained before I just started posting.


ic:
Thanks to the nations that have offered. As part of this R&D group, not only will any designs that come from this partnership be yours to use, but the Orzian government will also pay each $5 billion for your help (ooc: I don't have much of a military yet, so I can easily handle this).

Accepted nations:
Ruthless Slaughter
Kanami
Alfegos
Stevid


Question: Do all nations wish to work on seperate areas, i.e. naval/air/land, or combined?


ooc: SaintB & Juumanistra, do you want in or were you just answering?

And to participating nations, I'll add my AIM to my profile.

OOC: I was simply answering but I am debating whether or not to get into this. SaintB Integrated is already a big company and I work with severel other nations, usually Tigerlan, Spectare, and Firehelper.

SaintB Integrated may be interested in joining these endeavores, we will even wave your offer of $5 Billion USD.

ic:
SaintB Integrated would be welcomed to participate in this endevor, should you wish to join later.


ooc: Do you have any suggestions for drawing programs? All I've got is regular paint. I've got Bryce but don't know how to use it.

I use illustrator and photoshop... but then again I am a pro artist and dished out about 3k for the pair. I don't know that program you mentioned but paint should suffice if you keep things simple. Could hand draw them, scan them and the copy over them with paint for best results.

ic:
SaintB Integrated would be welcomed to participate in this endevor, should you wish to join later.


ooc: Do you have any suggestions for drawing programs? All I've got is regular paint. I've got Bryce but don't know how to use it.

Question: Do all nations wish to work on seperate areas, i.e. naval/air/land, or combined?

The Holy Empire specialises on naval vessels, inparticular command ships such as battleships and super dreadnoughts. We are known well enough to delever exceptional aircraft however ground ubits such as tanks are not our fortei and thus we purchase most of our tanks off the international market, few are home designed minus one or two.

We would be more than happy to fully assist you on the naval front while merely aiding you and another participating nations with aircraft.

EDIT:

ooc: Do you have any suggestions for drawing programs? All I've got is regular paint. I've got Bryce but don't know how to use it.

The Lineart forum is here to help, it's where many players of NS gather to show off there works of art on MS paint.

http://z13.invisionfree.com/LineartInc/index.php?

One of the forums on there is labelled Requests. Once we've designed whatever you want we post the stats there and advertise it. If there is any one about who has some free time then they'll do it out of the goodness of their heart.

The Republic has strong specialty in Avation Technology and would glady assit you in that department.

Alfegos is willing to aid you in the development of infantry weapons, such as upgrading your current assault rifle and Anti-tank weapon.

ooc: Bryce is the 3d rendering program, of which I've got Bryce 4. I've tried it a couple times, and even bought the book for using it (the thing weighs 15 lbs!!!) but never ended up reading enough of it to know what I'm doing. I've only got little ole paint that comes with Windows XP.


ic:
Very well, each nation will have their specialty, while we each will combine our efforts.

Alfegos - ground weapons, excluding vehicles
Kanami - Aviation Technology
Stevid - Naval Technology
Ruthless Slaughter - ground weapons, excluding vehicles

i shall give you a design for a mind gun; a hat that, when worn by a trained user, allows them to fire mind-bullets that can blow up tanks or even battleships and have perfect accuracy as far as the user can see.

In exchange, i want your whole lower class for medical experiments. You may have those that respond poorly back, if they are not ground up to feed the others.

All Hail the Supreme Dominator of Kalashnivoka!

PS: i would like my specialty to be psyonic weaponry. We also have a toering that gives pyrokenisis in the works, and an eye-brow stud that lets the user summon gremlims to do his / her bidding

I can do basic 3D models if you need help but my statistics suck. For examples check my NS Wiki page. (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Fordock)

Our specialty is small arms with minimal vehicle experience. Oh, and the badly done map of my facility!

UWT Research facility at Ugotini (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/DominionofRS/Ugotini.jpg)

i shall give you a design for a mind gun; a hat that, when worn by a trained user, allows them to fire mind-bullets that can blow up tanks or even battleships and have perfect accuracy as far as the user can see.

In exchange, i want your whole lower class for medical experiments. You may have those that respond poorly back, if they are not ground up to feed the others.

All Hail the Supreme Dominator of Kalashnivoka!

PS: i would like my specialty to be psyonic weaponry. We also have a toering that gives pyrokenisis in the works, and an eye-brow stud that lets the user summon gremlims to do his / her bidding


ooc: Please don't spam the thread with this type of nonsense. Oh, and you are officially IGNORED in this thread.

I could hook you up with Nuclear XD.

ooc: Fordock, I'm not sure if I want to go 3d, but it would be handy to have someone that knows how to do that willing to help. I'm looking for a way to make pics like the ones to do this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/gemini_105/aim123.png) & this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/gemini_105/gravgun2.jpg) & this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/gemini_105/BlackThunder.jpg) & this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/gemini_105/b1af9a35.jpg) & this. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/gemini_105/3bf66a18.jpg) I don't think any of those pictures are 3d, but I could be wrong, especially about the first one.


Ruthless, it has been updated.

OOC: If you're actually looking to RP this, I've got an RL background in physics, enough to probably contribute.

8 Alfegos representitives came flying that day to Orzio, aboard 2 helicopters. They both touched down outside the Orzio R&D department, where they would officially meet the people they would work with. They would then have a session in which they would improve their work.
One of them also had a few interesting bits of technology that Orzio could barter for.

I could hook you up with Nuclear XD.

At this time I don't want to have a foray into bio/chem/nukes, but perhaps at a later time.

ooc: BTW, what does the XD stand for?

ooc: Hurfdurfistan, that would greatly help, since all I had was high school level physics, and it was the kind without the math (of which I was VERY glad about). I'm not exactly sure how to go about RPing it, but I guess we can give it a shot. If it doesn't work out, then I guess we can all meet up on IM sometime.

FYI for all involved, the R&D will be taking place in Bay City, which has access to land use and water. It is a major city with plenty of military structures and support, and has two major civilian airports besides military ones.


ic:

The Alfegos representatives were greeted by the Orzian PR staff, which gave them refreshments and made sure they were comfortable. They were then led on a tour of the buildings, making sure to point out the different designated areas of research. They were also shown to their spacious quarters, having received instructions from the Alfegos embassy ahead of their arrival. It was made sure the Alfegosians(?) felt like this was just an extension of home. Once they felt ready, meetings of the important staff would take place, and then the real work would begin.

Barudii would be interested in assisting the development of new weapons technologies. We have actually been looking for a partner nation for developing our recent idea of cellular biological explosives. This technology is basically microscopic organisms with high explosive potential.

The representitives walked into the meeting room, and opened their suitcases.

"We thought first you might like a demonstration of 2 experimental concept rifles from Alfegos that might influence your research."

The first case revealed a silver assault rifle.

"The X -2: works on caseless ammo withan electronic firing mechanism, charged with a kinetic battery. Very durable, as only needs to be opend to clean out. It works on 5.56 caseless ammo, and has a range of about 500 metres effective.

Finally, it has a rate of fire of 1200 rpm, or can be fired semi-automatic. It tkaes the rounds from this 30 round magazine"


"Anyone wnat to try it out?"

OOC: The NS Draftroom (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx). Best place to make sure designs aren't batshit crazy before posting them here. Like that "cellular explosive" one...

OOC: Just warning you though, posting something on the draftroom is EXACTLY like putting blood into a shark tank. However, you will walk out with valuable advice, even trade.
IC:
Twenty ballistics specialists and engineers boarded a modified SH-53 Pave Low helicopter at the United WeaponsTech Corporation's reseach and development facility at the island of Ugotini. The helo lifted off and with a speed uncommon of the model of helicopter, shot off toward Bay City. Halfway there, a KC-10 tanker bearing the markings of a third world nation in the Pacific pulled ahead and refueled it. The chopper landed at Bay City at around 9:30 PM local time and the team disembarked. They were at one of the two civilian airports.

My country will set aside 2 billion dollars from my government budget. I recently found uranium deposits in my rainforest and am studying new ways to use nuclear weaponry. I also would like to put 1 billion dollars a day toward the research of plasma and one day hope to advance to vaporization and vaporization guns.

We here at United WeaponsTech would be happy to assist you in developing new weaponry. We have a research facility complete with free fire ranges on the island of Ugotini, a recent acquisition that we are sharing with two other members of our government's alliance, the United Defense Directorate. A map will be provided shortly.

OOC: Just won the island in an auction and decided to make it a lab for my primary arms manufacturer. Myself and two other UDD members collaborated on a bid. Seeing as I bid the most, I have a good chunk of the island set aside. They're adding in their parts now.

OOC: Since I'm a member of the UDD and have a part of the island, I am willing to let some of the land be attached to your labs, RS. Which means that I wish to go into partnership with you Orzio.

My country will set aside 2 billion dollars from my government budget. I recently found uranium deposits in my rainforest and am studying new ways to use nuclear weaponry. I also would like to put 1 billion dollars a day toward the research of plasma and one day hope to advance to vaporization and vaporization missles.

Your country doesn't have 2 billion dollars and you can't put a billion dollars a day towards projects. I doubt you have much more than a 20 Billion Dollar YEARLY income. I suggest you read the stickies in this forum before posting.

The Allied States of Spectare would also partnership with you.

OOC: Just warning you though, posting something on the draftroom is EXACTLY like putting blood into a shark tank. However, you will walk out with valuable advice, even trade.
IC:
Twenty ballistics specialists and engineers boarded a modified SH-53 Pave Low helicopter at the United WeaponsTech Corporation's reseach and development facility at the island of Ugotini. The helo lifted off and with a speed uncommon of the model of helicopter, shot off toward Bay City. Halfway there, a KC-10 tanker bearing the markings of a third world nation in the Pacific pulled ahead and refueled it. The chopper landed at Bay City at around 9:30 PM local time and the team disembarked. They were at one of the two civilian airports.


ooc: Yeah, I know about the draftroom, currently have a fighter that's getting worked on. Should be nearly done (if not totally), and that will become a part of this. :D


ic:
An Orzian personel waved the RSians (ooc:ICly what do I call you???), greeting them and making sure their flight was fine. After loading into comfortable SUVs, they were taken to the research compound, and given the same treatment and tour that the Alfegosians had already received. They were then given the option to relax briefly or to begin working, though later that night would be a dinner for all participants.

The Allied States of Spectare would also partnership with you.


Thank you for your interest in this endevor. Regretfully, we already have accepted several nations and are not wishing to have more involved.

My country will set aside 2 billion dollars from my government budget. I recently found uranium deposits in my rainforest and am studying new ways to use nuclear weaponry. I also would like to put 1 billion dollars a day toward the research of plasma and one day hope to advance to vaporization and vaporization missles.

ooc: Yeah, Skylar, that would be WAY more money than you would have currently. 1 bil a day would be too much, even for some bigger nations. I'd suggest buying things for the moment, and as Fordock suggested read the stickies. They are very helpful, and contain practically all you need to know!

OOC: Since I'm a member of the UDD and have a part of the island, I am willing to let some of the land be attached to your labs, RS. Which means that I wish to go into partnership with you Orzio.

ooc: Meh, I guess that's fine with me, don't see why it would be a problem. Is there any specific area you'd want to help in, or would you like to provide more funding, or something else?

OOC: I've been going with Dominion Citizens, but that's kinda long winded. Slaughterians will work.
And Vanek should be with us also, he is a member of my alliance.
IC:
Thanking the Orzian personnel and accepting their hospitlaity, the UWT team took the time to relax and get their papers in order after the long flight.

The representitives walked into the meeting room, and opened their suitcases.

"We thought first you might like a demonstration of 2 experimental concept rifles from Alfegos that might influence your research."

The first case revealed a silver assault rifle.

"The X -2: works on caseless ammo withan electronic firing mechanism, charged with a kinetic battery. Very durable, as only needs to be opend to clean out. It works on 5.56 caseless ammo, and has a range of about 500 metres effective.

Finally, it has a rate of fire of 1200 rpm, or can be fired semi-automatic. It tkaes the rounds from this 30 round magazine"


"Anyone wnat to try it out?"



One of the Orzian mechanics, a bit of a gun nut, offered to try it out, under Alfegos supervision of course. It was a quick walk down the hall to the range. They made sure everyone was clear and wearing ear protection, and the Orzian commenced firing at silouet targets at 100, 300, & 500 meters. At distance his shots were a little erratic, but still would've killed the target. He turned to the Alfegian:

"So, what else can you tell me about this? What's the kickback on this thing? What if it jams? How long's the batter life? What's the life expectancy on it?" He was a little excited, and just asked questions all at once.

"The Armed Republic of Hell Rouges would like to offer our assistance. We are very Air Force oriented, our specialty is fighter jets and they're weapons. We currently have a 35 billion dollar budget set aside for furthering our research."

Your country doesn't have 2 billion dollars and you can't put a billion dollars a day towards projects. I doubt you have much more than a 20 Billion Dollar YEARLY income. I suggest you read the stickies in this forum before posting.

dear asshole i have 2 billion dollars in my government budget. and i take the 1 bilkion a day out of my defence budget. my economy is apowerhouse. i get and extra 1 billion a day in my defence so fu.

ooc: Yeah, Skylar, that would be WAY more money than you would have currently. 1 bil a day would be too much, even for some bigger nations. I'd suggest buying things for the moment, and as Fordock suggested read the stickies. They are very helpful, and contain practically all you need to know!

thank u for being nicer then the other asshole. but i didnt know so sorry.

"Well, the recoil is lessened by the compensator - here - and by the ammunition you're using. The battery has an indefinate life, but we reccomend 5 years. If there is an ammo jam, see that catch there above the magazine? That willopen the chamber so that you can clean it, or in this case remove the jammed cartridge. Finall, the lifetime of that should at least be 30 years."

They opened anotehr case.

"The second possible assault rifle design we have: the X - 3. This one works on caseless ammo as well, but works on 7.62 mmm calibre. It has quite a bit more recoil, but won't be too bad. It has an effective range of a mile, but has a fire rate of about 550 rounds a minute.
It has a bullpup configuration, see, and can be used by any handed people. It has a small 3x builtin scope for the sights, or can have a better scope on.
It also has capacity to take the APGL - 98 grenade launcher, or the X-12 special munitions launcher.
Want to try this one?"

"You've got to be kidding...an assault rifle that can shoot a mile effectively? We're of course going to need to try that out. How about we try it with the APGL-98 first."

This time they had to walk to the outside range, and a target was set up one mile downrange. The gunner took a kneeling stance, took aim, and let off a quick three-round burst, and then several more. The target was then brought up, and while it had holes in it, it was obvious that the soldiers would need practice and instruction on using the X-3, should it be acquired.

Next up was the -98, and it proved effective as a grenade launcher, with improved accuracy than what was in the Orzian arsenal. Suffice it to say, the Orzian technicians were impressed.

"Well, you've definetly made some good rifles, and our recommendation will be to get these - with your permission of course. Nicely done. Now that assault rifles are covered, do you have anything in the sniper rifle areana? If not, then that is an area we should deal with next."

{OOC: I should have made myself clear it was sighted to a mile, but not for precision shots: more like a squads full automatic burst.}


"Sniper rifles, well..."
The group whipered amongst themselves, before opening another case, and assembling a black rifles.

"This rifle takes .50 calibre BMG rounds. It is effective for around about a mile, but we have reports of kills at over 2 miles. That however is pure luck, for the human body is unable to get such accuracy as this...
The scope is infared, and is adjustable up to 12 x zoom.

This rifle is very powerful in the right hands: as you can see, it has semi-automatic ability, and the cartridges and made from black metal, so they won't compromise stealth.

Finally, and most importantly, it strips down to fit in a small tracsuit bag."

They passed it over for testing.

SaintB Integrated would like to join, our team can bring to the board design experiance in light vehicles, body armor, small arms, aircraft, UAVs, and experimental technology (OOC: stuff that seems almost FT but has grounds in modern science). We also have designers capable of drafting almost anything that is necesary.

One of the engineers stood and, picking up a large black rifle case, walked over to one of the Orzian personnel.

"We'd like to take the liberty of demonstrating for you our primary product: The Dominion Mark 32 assault rifle. It utilizes the 6.5 Grendel round, a comfortable compromise between 5.56 and 7.62 NATO rounds. Containing the proven short stroke gas system of such successes as the AK-47 and HK G-36 as well as our helical magazine, it has both firepower and ammo capacity that has proven...most adequate."

With that, he opened the case. It contained what appeared to be the cross of a FAMAS and the battle rifle from HALO. It was a dull gray with integral optics and multiple rails for mounting. There were only semiautomatic and burst options.

Cocking the charging handle, the engineer looked around, "Any takers?"

The Orzian engineer took the sniper rifle, sighted it, and tested it for a range of one mile. He fired five shots at the target, then handed the rifle back over to be cleared and cleaned. The rifle was striped and broken down to demonstrate it getting into the bag as well.

"Nice rifle there. We should see if we can increase the distance to 1.5 miles with fair reliability. With what you've done already, shouldn't be too hard."


The Slaughterians walked over now, having met the group at the range. They handed over their rifle to be tested by the same Orzian engineer. He had targets set up again at 100, 300, and 500 meters, and tried both firing options at each range.

"Wow, this one is good as well. Have to say, I like the bullet size, and the mount is easier when its pressed in against you, but the problem is that we don't have any way to produce that size bullet, yet at least, if we end up with this rifle. So, what's the mag. on this? Oh, and how long has it been in your service?"

SaintB Integrated would like to join, our team can bring to the board design experiance in light vehicles, body armor, small arms, aircraft, UAVs, and experimental technology (OOC: stuff that seems almost FT but has grounds in modern science). We also have designers capable of drafting almost anything that is necesary.


SaintB would be welcomed to join in this endevor. Our engineers have seen some of your work already, and have been pleased. We have a need for ground vehicles, and our aircraft team has not yet arrived, but if you prefer we will leave it up to you to work on the area that you wish.


ooc: I've got a couple pics from Paint I've been messing around with, might even be able to use, if you'd like.

"The magazine cache is similar to most other shoulder arms, requiring the magazine to be rocked into position in order to lock in. The magazine used by the DM-32 is another important feature. This is a large capacity cylindrical magazine, making use of a helical arrangement. It has proven to be extremely popular for its extra capacity, and thus has been maintained with the DM-32. The magazine works by having helical grooves along the inside of the magazine, forcing the bullets to follow the grooves. Running along the grooves is a follower pushed by a spring, forcing the rounds along the track and feeding the weapon. This magazine is constructed of steel and is very durable, as required by our company's high standards. The configuration allows for fifty plus one rounds of ammunition and has proven successful in other nations' weapons like Doomingsland's DAC-97 submachinegun, where we had gotten inspiration for its use. The DM-32 has been the Dominion Military's standard assault rifle for about twenty years now, with upgrades as needed."

"That should be no problem: we will chnage a few small things, and it would be ready for your use. Did I mention you can use it as an anti-material riflle?"