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Expulsion from the Hegemony (Open, ATTN Cazelia, NC)

Lord Sumguy
21-09-2007, 20:17
Hegemony Headquarters, United Kingdom:

Lord Sumguy looked around as he walked up to the podium outside of the Hegemony Headquarters. News agencies from all around the world had been informed, and he was not looking forward to the Q&A session that would occur after his speech. He turned on the microphone and began to speak:

"Brotherhood between nations, such as we have created in the entity that is the Hegemony, is indeed a glorious thing. That nations can put aside their differences and unite under a single banner of mutual friendship and goodwill is a great sign of hope for the future of humanity. However, when one such nation should act in a manner that endangers those whom they have allied themselves with, or when a nation acts against the goals and ideals of the alliance to which it belongs, the brotherhood and unity of such an alliance is comprimised, and a state of instability, danger, and mistrust is created. In the interest of any such federation as a whole, such situations must be avoided or countered through any means neccesary.

Therefore, I must regretfully announce the expulsion of the nations of Cazelia and North Calaveras from the Hegemony, effective immediately. The former shall be expelled due to their overly aggressive foreign policy and the endangerment of the Hegemony that has come from their warmongering, the latter for the blatant breach of the civil and political rights of their citizens, and the resulting oppresion of their populace. The actions of both nations are in direct conflict with the purpose and aims of this federation.

All Hegemony-controlled property and assets within these nations will be surrendered, and all Hegemony military forces will be withdrawn from their territory. Funding for the ongoing efforts to restore the North Calaveran homeland to a habitible state will continue, and both nations remain eligible for Hegemony humanitarian aid services.

The decision to expel these two nations was made by myself and the Vice-Hegemon, and as such may be overruled by a vote in the Hegemony Council. I pray that one day we may welcome Cazelia and North Calaveras back into the Hegemony, but for now it would seem that cannot be."

The speech ended, and Lord Sumguy remained on the podium. "at this time I am willing to take questions from the press."

OOC: sorry guys, but you have become a liability and a danger to the rest of us. If you fix the issues LS addresed, you may be allowed to rejoin.
British Londinium
21-09-2007, 21:57
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Official Londinian Communiqué

Open Declaration:

I applaud this latest decision of the Hegemony. Neither Cazelia nor North Calaveras are responsible members of the international community, and do not deserve protection by the fine nations comprising to the Hegemony.

Along with Hegemonic nations, the Commonwealth will be watching these former conquests closely, and monitoring each's foreign and domestic policy actions.

Ex corona, æquitas.

Sincerely,
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The Rt. Hon. Flavia Davidson, MP
Consul of the Londinian Commonwealth
Greal
21-09-2007, 22:19
Greal Official Statement

Greal has no comment to make though the Government officials in Greal are very mad by this decision.






Hegemony Headquarters, United Kingdom:

A Greal reporter was also at the press, he rose his hand.
Cookesland
21-09-2007, 22:28
Hegemony Headquarters
London, United Kingdom2

A Cookeslandic Reporter stood up

"R. John Weller, CBC,

Lord Sumguy, was this expulsion discussed with the other members of the Hegemony?"
The Far Echo Islands
21-09-2007, 22:35
"I truly have no problems with this, and I find Lord Sumguy's reasoning quite justified." The Far Echo Islands rep. said.
Lord Sumguy
21-09-2007, 23:37
Hegemony Headquarters
London, United Kingdom2

A Cookeslandic Reporter stood up

"R. John Weller, CBC,

Lord Sumguy, was this expulsion discussed with the other members of the Hegemony?"

"No, they were not. Unfortunately, the Hegemony Council can take quite a long time to make a decision, and i beleived that quick action needed to be taken. This was a decision I made along with the Vice-Hegemon, and that is why I stated that the Hegemony Council may negate it if they should so choose. Next question, the man from Greal."
Greal
21-09-2007, 23:40
"Will this descision affect the Hemegony's standings internationally?"asked the Greal reporter.

OOC; Can the Hemegony vote on this again?
Greal
21-09-2007, 23:42
OOC: Where can I find out more about the Hegemony? I'm interested about joining, and there's no NSWiki page.


OOC: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533242
Lord Sumguy
21-09-2007, 23:47
"Will this descision affect the Hemegony's standings internationally?"asked the Greal reporter.

OOC; Can the Hemegony vote on this again?

OOC: we didnt vote, it was an executive decision. If you wish to call a council meeting to decide the matter, you may.

OOC2: @VDB, we have no NSWiki page as of yet, but the creation, recruitment, and charter thread is here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533242
the charter is post #10

IC:

"I aqm not sure how this will affect the international standing of the Hegemony, hopefully it will improve now that other nations see that we are serious about promoting civil and political freedoms, and working for peace and stability in the world."
Zoingo
21-09-2007, 23:47
OOC: Where can I find out more about the Hegemony? I'm interested about joining, and there's no NSWiki page.


occ: indeed, we do need a Wiki page for the Hegemony.

ic:

One of the reporters from Zoingo raised his hand.
Cookesland
21-09-2007, 23:48
"Will this descision affect the Hemegony's standings internationally?"asked the Greal reporter.

OOC; Can the Hemegony vote on this again?

[OoC: I agree, should we use the old council thread or make a new one with a poll?]
Imperial isa
21-09-2007, 23:49
OOC: Where can I find out more about the Hegemony? I'm interested about joining, and there's no NSWiki page.

OOC not every thing has a NSWiki page VDB
try this
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533242
Lord Sumguy
21-09-2007, 23:49
One of the reporters from Zoingo raised his hand.

"State your question." Lord Sumguy said as a microphone was handed to the reporter.
Greal
21-09-2007, 23:51
The Greal representive to the Hemegony arrived at the headquarters. Aparrently Greal wanted the Hemegony to vote on this issue.. Every nation has a right to vote anyway.
Vanek Drury Brieres
21-09-2007, 23:54
OOC not every thing has a NSWiki page VDB
try this
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533242

I know, I would just think an alliance like the Hegemony would have one. I have applied to join as well.
Lord Sumguy
21-09-2007, 23:55
The Greal representive to the Hemegony arrived at the headquarters. Aparrently Greal wanted the Hemegony to vote on this issue.. Every nation has a right to vote anyway.

OOC: perhaps a seperate thread for that, so that this one isnt cluttered.

IC: "These nations will keep the free trade agreements that they enjoyed when they were Hegemony members, and will receive military support if any land-hungry nation should attempt to take advantage of their expulsion. How diplomacy will go is up to them."
Zoingo
21-09-2007, 23:56
"Well Lord Sumguy, although our country has no comment and isn't for or against the action taken, we would like to inquire as to a couple of things. The most important on our list, is how will war, diplomacy, and trade be affected now that these 2 nations are now out of the alliance?"
Greal
21-09-2007, 23:56
OOC: perhaps a seperate thread for that, so that this one isnt cluttered.

IC: "These nations will keep the free trade agreements that they enjoyed when they were Hegemony members, and will receive military support if any land-hungry nation should attempt to take advantage of their expulsion. How diplomacy will go is up to them."


OOC: Okay, i'm making a thread for it, please wait, I am not going to add a POll though.
Lord Sumguy
22-09-2007, 02:01
"Indeed I do, and I would like nothing better than to discover that their expulsion isn't neccesary. Unfortunately, what we want to be and what is rarely coincide."
United kingdom2
22-09-2007, 02:01
Reporter from BBC

"Lord Sumguy do you have any regrets from removing these members from the council?"
United kingdom2
22-09-2007, 02:17
"Indeed I do, and I would like nothing better than to discover that their expulsion isn't neccesary. Unfortunately, what we want to be and what is rarely coincide."

Reporter from BBC

Lord Sumguy will you still have a friendly relationship with both nations still?
Cookesland
22-09-2007, 02:20
Reporter from CBC

"How do you think the two countries will react to this?"
Zoingo
22-09-2007, 02:21
Reporter

"Yes, any regrets?"
Lord Sumguy
22-09-2007, 02:22
"I certainly hope to have a friendly relation with those two nations, although that is up to them, of course."
United kingdom2
22-09-2007, 02:43
Reporter from BBC

As any sign of threats of attacks been sent to the council by the two members?
Lord Sumguy
22-09-2007, 19:28
"Heavens no, I doubt either nation would ever do such a thing. I honestly have no idea what these nations will do, and can only hope that they will abandon the actions and ways that caused their expulsions."
North Calaveras
01-10-2007, 21:13
A NC ambassador from the communist party arrive and enterd with an upset face. while walking in Natalia said " This is ridiculas!"
Lord Sumguy
01-10-2007, 21:17
OOC: Alright. A bit late, but ill go with it.

IC: "I would be more than willing to discuss this matter with you in private, my good madam." Lord Sumguy said as he walked over to the man, hoping the ambassador would not cause a scene of some sort. "Shall we?" He otioned towards a door leading into the building.
North Calaveras
01-10-2007, 21:19
OCC the ambassador is a women XD

Natalia walked with the man.
Maldorians
01-10-2007, 21:21
Official Mandalorian Message

The Tyrannical Mandalorian Empire would like to remind any foolish nation planning on Cazelia to reconsider their actions. Cazelia is a vassal of the Tyrannical Mandalorian Empire and any attack on them will be responded in kind by Mandalorian forces. Let this be a warning to those who wish to harm the stability of the Mandalorian Empire.

~The Mandalore.
-Supreme Ruler of the Tyrannical Mandalorian Empire.
Lord Sumguy
01-10-2007, 21:22
OOC: oops, edited

IC:
They entered a room with two chairs and a table, Lord Sumguy sat down. "Now, why exactly do you think this is so ridiculous?"
North Calaveras
01-10-2007, 21:23
She sat down " We have been a peacful nation, and didnt confront you when you refused to help us against BL, you know we would never try to jeoprodize the alliance, you were there when the BL ambassador informed us of the nuclear strike"
Lord Sumguy
01-10-2007, 21:32
"Aye, and I joined the resulting Anti-BL coalition, which only refrained from invading the nation because the Londinians surrendered. I realize that your nation held no ill will towards the rest of us, but your aggresive promotion of communism and methods thereof have made us many uneeded enemies. This is not however, why you were expelled. Your nation has been expeled for nothin less that opresion of your citizens, and denial of their civil and political liberties, in direct conflict with the mission of the Hegemony."
North Calaveras
01-10-2007, 21:33
" Comrade Sumguy, there are no political opressions, the resulting members are just sent to SOL countrys, i have not heard of oppression of civil libertys."
North Calaveras
01-10-2007, 21:42
Natalia informd him " Sumguy, we resented the statement, we annouced that we would allow partys, there are just no more members for them to run."
Lord Sumguy
01-10-2007, 21:44
"Then what do you call the banning of political parties? I say that is oppresion."
Lord Sumguy
01-10-2007, 22:04
"How convenient." The Hegemon said, disbeleif evident in his voice. They expect me to beleive that all candidates for other political parties just dissappeared? "I shall review your nation's current policies, and ponder the possible re-admittance of North Calaveras to the Hegemony. In the meantime, i suggest you decide whether your nation is willing to put the goals of the Hegemony before it's own devotion to spread communism. Do you have anything else to say, or are we finished here?"
North Calaveras
02-10-2007, 02:50
Natalia " No comrade, im not finished. Communism comes before all, we must make a 100% communist state. The sooner this is accomplished, the more we can focus on our devotion to the alliance.
North Calaveras
02-10-2007, 02:57
Natilia " We just want no one poking there nose into our country, and we will do the same to others. I ask you to accept us back, you may even present speacial terms against us.
Lord Sumguy
02-10-2007, 02:59
"If you put your nation before the alliance, and your ideals before the alliance's, how can you expect us not to expell you when you when they conflict?"
Cazelia
02-10-2007, 03:05
OOC: What? Why? I never oppressed any of my citizens
Lord Sumguy
02-10-2007, 03:30
OOC: What? Why? I never oppressed any of my citizens

OOC: no, but you were extraordinarily agressive, making us a large number of enemies in the process.
Cazelia
02-10-2007, 03:37
OOC: good point
North Calaveras
02-10-2007, 03:43
Natalia waited for Sumguys response.
Lord Sumguy
02-10-2007, 03:58
Natilia " We just want no one poking there nose into our country, and we will do the same to others. I ask you to accept us back, you may even present speacial terms against us.

"I will consider it, although, i beleive your plea may be moot soon, for there is a great change about to take place, and the Hegemony will pale in importance as a new power rises, greater by far than any we have ever been a part of." The Hegemon said, a gleam in his eye, as if he was seeing some sort of grand vision. "Prepare for turbulent times. Soon we will all be forced to unite, communist and capitalist, monarchy and democracy, or fall to the evils that now dominate this world, so that we may create a new order, and bring the earth into a new golden age."
North Calaveras
02-10-2007, 03:59
Natalia said in russian, as to try to prevent others from understanding. " What problems comrade?"
North Calaveras
02-10-2007, 04:03
Natalia, seeing the confusion in Sumguys face " What problems comrade?"
Lord Sumguy
02-10-2007, 04:05
OOC: LS doesnt speak russian. He speaks English, Gaelic, and native Sumguaian.
North Calaveras
02-10-2007, 04:46
Natalia " So this change come soon, yes?
Lord Sumguy
02-10-2007, 04:48
"Envy, Jealousy, Fear, unwillingness to change, old hatreds and grudges, but i shall say no more, for i am but a single part of the triumvirate behind the coming change."
Fordock
02-10-2007, 04:50
(Yeah but there is more power than a triumvirate. Surely I'm at least a secondary leader in "The coming Change?" )
North Calaveras
02-10-2007, 04:58
Natalie became discomforted at his silence " What is going to happen comrade Sumguy?
Fordock
02-10-2007, 04:59
(Eh but I physically have secondary power as I am the immediate subordinate for the most part of one of the three.)
Lord Sumguy
02-10-2007, 05:00
OOC: yeah, but not one of the three who started the whole idea :P
Cookesland
02-10-2007, 05:04
"Coming Change?" asked the Cookeslandic representative
Lord Sumguy
02-10-2007, 05:09
"Coming Change?" asked the Cookeslandic representative

OOC: they are speaking in private.
Cookesland
02-10-2007, 05:10
[OoC: Ah.]
Lord Sumguy
02-10-2007, 05:13
Natalie became discomforted at his silence " What is going to happen comrade Sumguy?

"I cannot say, for at the moment it must remain unknown to you and many others. Just know that when it does happen, few indeed will fail to notice."

OOC: he's not going to give away anything more, so you'll just have to wait to find out.
North Calaveras
02-10-2007, 05:16
She straightend up " Very well, i will not talk about this conversation to others, I will be back in a few days, i cannot say when: She leaned up to whisper in his ear, this time purposly speaking in russian: We will kill them all...: she got up and left the room.
Lord Sumguy
02-10-2007, 05:26
Lord Sumguy did not understand what she said, and therefore responded in his own language, which would be equally cryptic to her. "With nations such as yours as a lever, I shall move the world." As she left, so did he, driving to the palace to spend time with his family.