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I was wondering who was interested in doing a PT rp based in the 1700's. It could be exploration of a new un-charted continent which countrys fight over for superiority (Kinda like North America during the 18th century), involving, natives, large scale conflicts between empires, (Land & sea), trade...ect...

I think this idea has lots of potential if given the proper chance. Everyone who would be interested in this idea would use their own nation and their tech of the time notr going beyond the 1700's....

If you could please post some feedback or your own ideas on this subject it would help those interested to get this moving.

Thank you.

I would be interested in this

Thank you for showing interest! i hope more come forward, and..do you have any ideas to expand on the subject?

Sounds interesting.

well i was thinking of rping an empire with a large sea fleet, but i probably wouldnt be able to roleplay the past of my current MT nation as its a bit small...

i would like to Rp a Empire with Medium Sea Fleet but Large and Diverse Army

Welcome aboard! i will not be Rp'ing 1700's Osteia in this but a Native tribe that resembles the Huron People of North America, i will be behind on tech and what not..but i will trade and show the new commers how to live in this new place aswell as side with powerful nations. In the 1700's Line and coloum infantry formations are whats happening, i ambush and fight in the vast forests....

:-)

i would like to Rp a Empire with Medium Sea Fleet but Large and Diverse Army

Bah, clearly in this day and age it's the naval powers that dominate.

Bah, clearly in this day and age it's the naval powers that dominate.

Ahh true somewhat...it's debaitable, although the ablity to cross waters in force has always been KEY to military actions...

Ahh true somewhat...it's debaitable, although the ablity to cross waters in force has always been KEY to military actions...

Indeed. In an age where you haven't had aircraft yet, the only way to transport your armies quickly are by the seas. And if your enemy controls the seas, then you can't reinforce, supply or fortify your positions.

This sounds great! I'll join.

Jenrak: Agreed

And welcome aboard Kirav. Im open to ideas on how to better this rp, feel free to post them on here....

does anyone have ideas on how to better this idea? so that we can make it an rp for everyone who is interested, i want to get some good input here so this Rp will be what people want.

Bah, clearly in this day and age it's the naval powers that dominate.


you have point but i would rather dominate with Large Army. so i can have more control over provinces. That dont want my forces there
but i see your point on have a large navy too. which you can launch and deploy your troops with more efficent

does anyone have ideas on how to better this idea? so that we can make it an rp for everyone who is interested, i want to get some good input here so this Rp will be what people want.

What's the motive? Motive for exploration was trade routes to China.

you have point but i would rather dominate with Large Army. so i can have more control over provinces. That dont want my forces there
but i see your point on have a large navy too. which you can launch and deploy your troops with more efficent

Indeed.

I wouldnt mind getting in on this, but my role would be a little different. My nations navy would be too weak too compete for the territory (kinda) so instead we would send a small expeditionary force who would recruit and arm the natives to reduce foreign strongholds.

I come and go. I havent got the know how for MT nor the patience for FT so Ive kinda been falling back on the tech I always preffered for RP recently.

I wouldnt mind getting in on this, but my role would be a little different. My nations navy would be too weak too compete for the terroritory (kinda) so instead we would send a small expeditionary force who would recruit and arm the natives to reduce foreign strongholds.

Frozopia, been a while. Were you just lurking about?

Double Time warp. Lol.

BTW.

1560
Native Americans>Settlers

1561
Native Americans<Settlers with Small Pox Blankets

Are we using our own countries or what?


I am definitly interested and can serve as a moderator from my PT expereince.

I will be a French Style Country that has a very good Navy and Army.

I'd be really interested in something like this.

Im in, it will be fun to Rp my older people.

I plan to have a small but untra profience army and same with navy, sort of like Prussia around this time...

hehe. i'm in.

I'll use a toned down version of the original Angermanland as extrapolated out to the relevant era.

that means the regular, professional army is small, but highly advanced technologically [within the limits], and that in the normal course of things most of my citizens could be considered partially trained reserves.

means the navy is larger, with all the classes of ships i developed [hehehehehe. i love those ships] but totally unsuited to river actions.

means there are Hawk troops and Moa-mounted types. hehehehe.

of course, the standard method of fighting wars for the ouhAngermanland is to avoid battles when they can find other ways to defeat their foes :D

Angermanland at that point is an empire based in what would be New Zealand, with colonies in eastern Australia, the chains of islands leading towards Indonesia, coastal eastern Africa, and numerous minor islands from Africa all the way to south America.

'course, all that's potentially irrelevant, but there you go.

so, yah, i'm in if you want me still :)

Intrested! :D

What's the motive?

-Exploration
-Scientific discovery
-Trade
-Establish colonies in the new world
-Fleeing persucition
-Tresure hunting
-Reducing the power of rivals

I will also inform those who havn't see it yet that, i will be playing a Native American tribe that resemble the Huron/ Mohawk Peoples. I will know the land, be expert trappers, trackers, scouts, skilled warriors in Guerilla warfare tactics against your formations, my men are useless in open ground except in a charge...

My people will trade and teach nations things about this new world, along with make alliances over time, i will need firearms :-).

I'm in Comrade, any chance to RP the Toopoxican golden age cannot be passed upon.

Hey! welcome aboard old friend, good to see you!

Toops, Anger, Osteia, Frozopia...... Hehe wheres Thrashia, Terra and the others :P.

Hehehe i think they will be along shortly :-) !

So, we have all these nations sending forces to occupy and settle this land..we will need a map...

So once this vying over control of a land is over, should we continue this RP to make it a proper world, iffen it becomes popular enough.

Also, I vote we use India, it just looks right for this sort of RP.

If it's not too late, I'd like to take a shot at this. My stats would be a nation with a state-of-the-art (for the 1700's) navy, multi-function ground troops (mountain fighters, guerilla-scouts, regular army), and native mercenaries.

If a world-map is going to be used, we should have a time of land claims. As I have been involved in a number of these type threads, a couple of suggestions:

1...no huge land claims. Modest claims make the thread more interesting, and also make for quite a few posts in realistic territory expansion.
2...no huge militaries. While not an expert, I'm pretty sure that the average military force back then had a max of around 20,000 to 30,000 military personnel.

That being said, I would like to claim the area that is now Madagascar and a strip of land on the African continent running approx 3,000 miles north to south and 1,500 miles inland.

i ould be persuaded to join... i'll tke a native southamarican (aztek omec myan) style nation with afew of my own peronal twists

Toops, Anger, Osteia, Frozopia...... Hehe wheres Thrashia, Terra and the others :P.

Thrashia is currently with me in Chron's Hammer thread.

Toopoxia: That would be interesting, and India sounds decent but i think we are going for more a North America look, great lakes, lush dark, deep forests, green rolling hills... :-)

Also..

There will be no land claims, this country does not yet belong to you and you do not know what to expect at all. The sizes for the military forces look about right, but remember they will be scattered all over the place....fortress garrisons, detachments, patrols..ect..

This will be a VAST wilderness, aquiring native allies will not be easy either..my people are kind, understanding, honorable, and STRONG. I will add a little about their history and why they are the dominant Native tribe...

Reguarding the Aztec peoples, you are welcome to Rp them but can i have alittle more information? are they Native or new commers?

Toopoxia: That would be interesting, and India sounds decent but i think we are going for more a North America look, great lakes, lush dark, deep forests, green rolling hills... :-)

Also..

There will be no land claims, this country does not yet belong to you and you do not know what to expect at all. The sizes for the military forces look about right, but remember they will be scattered all over the place....fortress garrisons, detachments, patrols..ect..

This will be a VAST wilderness, aquiring native allies will not be easy either..my people are kind, understanding, honorable, and STRONG. I will add a little about their history and why they are the dominant Native tribe...

Reguarding the Aztec peoples, you are welcome to Rp them but can i have alittle more information? are they Native or new commers?

You don't know who the aztecs are?

Er I suggest we stick with this one RP for the moment. Expanding into a Earth takes alot of energy and dedication: You can bet once all the lands have been claimed half the players will drop out and we will be left trying to decide what to do with the rest.

Just use this RP over a small area untill later.

I'll join in as a parallel to the Dutch at the time. My nation has a sufficient navy but its real power is its companies. As such, my colonies will be controlled by something like "The 7000 West/East/North/South (NAME OF COLONIAL LANDMASS) Company", which will still be under my control. As such, their main interests are profit as opposed to warmongering. They will have mercenaries as well, with private armies (for equality) that they use against the natives and for the highest bidder.

Also, I can make a map of both the originating continent and the new one, if you wish.

I know who the Aztecs were...a South American people, but i was wondering how they could be included in this Rp as the map MAY be..fictitious

Frozopia: Agreed

Jenrak I was flicking through a few old threads.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464659&highlight=Jenrak+Frozopia


How amusing.
~~Drakthaz, Lord of Commerce


Jenrak will support Red Tide in this manner. If the Frozopians cannot stand against them, then they deserve this occupation and no matter how unfairly, they are only responsible for it themselves. Therefore, any aggressive action against Red Tide will result in an assisted retaliatory strike from Jenrak.
~~Lord Authaulus of the Temsplace

YOU EVIL BASTARD!

lol good times.

I'll join in as a parallel to the Dutch at the time. My nation has a sufficient navy but its real power is its companies. As such, my colonies will be controlled by something like "The 7000 West/East/North/South (NAME OF COLONIAL LANDMASS) Company", which will still be under my control. As such, their main interests are profit as opposed to warmongering. They will have mercenaries as well, with private armies (for equality) that they use against the natives and for the highest bidder.

Also, I can make a map of both the originating continent and the new one, if you wish.

I am debaiting on using a continent or a Province (Canada) or state (USA) in North America...? any ideas?

I can hardly wait to start.

I am debaiting on using a continent or a Province (Canada) or state (USA) in North America...? any ideas?

I can hardly wait to start.

Including climate?

Jenrak I was flicking through a few old threads.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464659&highlight=Jenrak+Frozopia


YOU EVIL BASTARD!

lol good times.

OH NO I've been found out!!!

Lol, yep, good times.

I'd say make a new continent for both, which I'd be willing to map out, but that's just me.

Including climate?


Yes including climate.

Thank you for offering to make a map The 7000. I would say make a new continent for both but how large of an area do we need?

There is also a problem with two continents..my natives can't cross the sea, nor have the need to..so i say either one state or province or one continent.

I'd say that the newer continent will be slightly larger, while the old one will be near another continent that it wishes to trade with, similar to how the New World was discovered by traders seeking a safer route to Asia than land.

I'd say that the newer continent will be slightly larger, while the old one will be near another continent that it wishes to trade with, similar to how the New World was discovered by traders seeking a safer route to Asia than land.


Ummm interesting idea, however, the armys and settlers will be comming from NS nations of this time making that nearly impossible, good idea but i don't think it will work...

Basicly we are deciding on to use a Continent size map, or a state or province size map, we could fit either, or, into the Rp...states and provinces are rather large..

But how many people have joined exactly, we may need to use a continent..

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8893/nationstatesptmapga4.png (http://imageshack.us)


That's the Claims Map. My desired claim is in dark green. My nation is probably around medium-small size, so claims can be bigger, but not gigantic. The Western Continent, which we can name once we get to it, is where the civilizations are, while the Eastern Continent is where the colonies will be for the most part. The northern island/continent is equivelant to say, Greenland, and is mainly frozen but has some small liveable areas that might make good ports. The islands to the south are equivelant to the Philipines/the Carribean/etc. Names for the continents and the seas will come for all this once we start the RP, and will be up to Osteia's discretion.

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http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8618/nationstatesclimateptmasu5.png (http://imageshack.us)


This is the Climate/Geographical Map. It should be self explanatory. The grey humps are mountains, and the colors correspond to the key.

Any questions, comments, suggestions, complaints?

7000 thats a world map. He just wants a map for the new "world" e.g. some US state sized island inhabited by the tribes.

A world RP, as I said earlier, is too big to go into at the moment. Maybe later, when we are certain we have plenty of dedicated and active RPers, we can expand the map and depth to the RP.

*Cries*. I'll get onto it. I wasn't sure what he meant.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9895/nationstatesptislandmapbv7.png (http://imageshack.us)

Fine, here's a new map.

the strength of the old PT RP was in that it wasn't really an Earth, it were a universal planning thread.

But anyways, yes, this RP, I have a lot of characters lined up for colonial RPing, Briullov, Gallius, all the greats from the Toopoxican golden age.

Toops I still consider your old land part of my Empire....

:P.

And heeeeeere's Thrashia! :p

Alrighty then. If possible I would enjoy this rp. Seeing as a map is needed, I can provide one, as well as some local area maps, if possible. For the meantime I think it serves the purpose to have a general over map. As far as a nation goes...I believe I'd like to do a moderately sized nation (Han Empire returns! Mwuahaha! jk) with a small but well trained navy with a moderate army.

Possible Map (http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3781/mapofdafantasyprosebyhell5.jpg)

my aztecs will be native to the land . in the southren part of the land

Thrashia! Get onto our current RP, we are waiting for ya! Check your TG's :P.

Toops I still consider your old land part of my Empire....

:P.

You, Binaria, the world just can't get enough of Toops :P

man, looking back on all the old stuff, it seems so long ago and so awesome, aaaah memories.

You, Binaria, the world just can't get enough of Toops :P

man, looking back on all the old stuff, it seems so long ago and so awesome, aaaah memories.

Whatever happened to those ridiculous comics you always made?

comics you say?

i forget. is this rp set late enough for rifles?

edit: also, Thrashia, nice map. fits what it sounds like Osteia is trying to do ... now go post in our RP :P

So when is this going to start?

And just for clarification, what years is this from?

If we use Thrashias map (which i like) would i be able to claim the top half of the landmass in the bottom left corner? (or all of it if possible)

*blinks*

i was reading the lighter stuff as the land....

i don't know why! :eek:

what IS it with people and islands?

Excellent map, Thrashia. Looking forward to putting in a claim if the map is agreed upon/approved. (Lower left-hand corner, penninsula and island off it's tip.)

I like the map and that is the one we will use for this Rp, it's perfect for how i invisioned this role play.

Shakal: This will begin soon, i think im closing it soon. The years this takes place in are strictly 1700's, i seen someone mentioned rifles somwhere i think it was Angerman, there are NO rifles, just muskets.

boom-sticks... evil white-man magic

Whatever happened to those ridiculous comics you always made?

I tried recently to restart them using Photoshop, like I did with my old comic (http://accospoot.deviantart.com/art/Mr-Spoot-TNG-Ep-2-41293248), but right now I'm working on my first graphic novel (http://accospoot.deviantart.com/art/One-Splash-Page-at-the-Circus-65297611) for a school project, but I might return, after I've finished this project.

Do you guys think fact books are nessasary? im not quite sure as long as the players describe things well....?

What do you guys say?

Do you guys think fact books are nessasary? im not quite sure as long as the players describe things well....?

What do you guys say?

I wouldn't be against it, but I'd say that if we do we shouldn't make it compulsary, one of the major dying factors of RP's are cos people are quite often repulsed by the amount of knit and grit they need to detail before they can get down to some good RPing.

True....

Well, people can set up fact books if they want to...i'll leave it at that. I think i will add all the information about my people in my very first post, you as the 'European' type peoples will just have to explain the look of your soldiers, weapons ect....

I expect i will be setting this up very soon now, this should be interesting and very fun!

I can hardly wait..

I've changed my mind about my Rp Nation.

I'd rather have a small but highly trained Military. Instead of having a huge lightly trained military.

My Navy will be moderate but my army will be much larger. I shall also have a marine force.


Is this ok? If it's required I'll definitly make a factbook.

Sounds good to me, make a factbook if you wish..post the link here. I'll be organizing a first post in a bit...

Ok Thanks.....I hope this is a good one.


Now we are playing as our own nations. correct?

Ok Thanks.....I hope this is a good one.


Now we are playing as our own nations. correct?

That is correct.

Black Shadows- I have already stated my claim of that area of land, in the top post of this page

i really don't care What bit of land i get.
only minor exception would be that i'm not prone to colonizing random bits willy-nilly everywhere. it would be one block.


looks like my ranged weapons amount to grenades, cannon, balista and trebuchets then. [entertainingly, i do have something similar to the Portuguese organ gun, at least as it shows up in AoE3]

Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13070849#post13070849)

Very basic and simple.

The european type nations claim land? I thought we had to RP taking it.

:confused:

You do have to Rp taking the land, you can Rp where your forces land on the map and we will have someone edit it. I will prepare the IC today, post, then i will not be able to post till Sunday night (Im in Atlantic Canada on the Eastcoast)...to give Sunday night meaning to you all :-P

Who edits maps?

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3781/mapofdafantasyprosebyhell5.jpg

Hmmm the map is rather small... LOL

Hmmm the map is rather small... LOL

Umm kinda yes, but thats why the fight for superiority is so important...get a foothold or basicly your gonna get pushed out....is there a way we can make it slightly larger though?

Black Shadows- I have already stated my claim of that area of land, in the top post of this page


Yeah, I saw that after I posted. I'll pick somewhere else.

If no one has claimed it, I'm going to RP the "discovery" of the smallish island w/the even smaller island just north of it in the lower right-hand corner.

Heres a pic of my warriors....

http://www.agecommunity.com/images/Iroquois_Warrior_sm.jpg

Im waiting to see if there is a better map then i will start it....we need more land but a decent amount of water with canals and what not..like the St. Lawerence river...? get me?

It will create visible stratigic points for people to feel the need to cease them.

Heres a pic of my warriors....

http://www.agecommunity.com/images/Iroquois_Warrior_sm.jpg

Im waiting to see if there is a better map then i will start it....we need more land but a decent amount of water with canals and what not..like the St. Lawerence river...? get me?

It will create visible stratigic points for people to feel the need to cease them.

I will begin communication with a tribe as soon as we start. I guess thats you probably.

Ok sounds good!

NOW i will be away timm Sunday evening, then i will return and as soon as i have...

THIS RP WILL START!! YAAAAHOOOOOOOOO

I'll edit the map for taking down land requests. Also I will add a distance measure bar, and you'll see how big the map gets...

Ok this might be a bit big. So if you think my numbersd are too bog then please tell me.

Factbook (Basic) - http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538816&highlight=Tynlandia

Regular - http://www.bobhudson.com/zeth/hessen3.gif

Ok, Im setting up the IC right now..

Thrashia when were you going to have the map done...? i will add it then...

IC will be called

"The New World" (PT)...

I will be sure to post the link as soon as it's up.

Thrashia is a very good RPer...


he's also very, very slow at getting back to things [at least, comparatively] .. ask him if you want something done well, not if you want it done fast :P

(also, the Dawn's Maul RP is waiting on you too, Thrashia)

should we start with first explorers, first colonists, what?

weirdest thing about my guys at this tech level if they ran into natives would be the moa, assuming they're mounted and don't meet anyone in sight of the ocean [their ships are Really weird]. that and possibly skin colour [it's a sort of light brown. think of the paler pacific peoples]

*ponders*

Plz make the IC thread... I need it...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13077933#post13077933

I will do more on the IC opening...alot more...

I will be around for a little longer tonight and may end up doing it soon, right now im just watching a movie with the girl :-)

Feel free to start how ever you want, perferably having your ships approaching the land...spotting land..w/e

Thank you, have fun!

ok. my guys showed up, and are scouting [from the air no less.]
currently looking for places to build a port town to facilitate continued colonization.

... i really don't care where exactly they're looking so long as it's semi-suitable for that purpose, so... yeah. stick a marker on the map somewhere for the Charraven :D

Suggestion. We spread out the colonialist arrivals. It would be a bit rediculous if we all arrived at the same time and place. I was hoping to arrive first as I wont really contribute any fighting force over 1-2 companies of infantry (maybe less) but w/e.

Suggestion. We spread out the colonialist arrivals. It would be a bit rediculous if we all arrived at the same time and place. I was hoping to arrive first as I wont really contribute any fighting force over 1-2 companies of infantry (maybe less) but w/e.

Agreed, I wanted to do the same, but without just spending ages RPing the homelands I couldn't wangle it

I might for the moment, with Osteia's permission, RP some natives to keep me busy.

Alright. Sorry about the wait. Right now, without saying "I already said that", tell me where you want to be on the map using words like "the north west corner of the top right continent" etc. Simple stuff. Once everyone has said their say I can have it up in no time.

pick a spot that would look like a potentially viable harbor from the ocean.

my ships are there.

that is all.

:D

how can someone join this?

how can someone join this?

You just did. :D

cool. ill try to get in asap