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Faxanavia Establishes Anti-Matter Research Board (Open MT)

Faxanavia
15-09-2007, 22:15
Press Release, Vallingard National Times:
"Today, in stunning news, the Allied States of Faxanavia announced it's intention to establish a scientific research board focusing on harnessing anti-matter. Faxanavian secretary of Sciences, Hope Carlyle, said that she, 'hoped the international community would be willing to aid Faxanavia and itself in building a better tomorrow.' Faxanavia is now opening applications for any and all foreign scientests to become a member of the board."

Goals

1: Establish a simplistic and relatively safe way to produce anti-matter.

2: Develop a system by which anti-matter may be used for power.

3: Explore anti-matter's use as a weapon.

Any interested nations should let us know which scientists they plan to send (including name and credentials.) The Faxanvian team will be released shortly.

The Team:
Dr. Edward V. Quarson, Sub-atomic Physicist and team leader (Faxanavia)

Dr. Hope Charity, Energy Theorist (Faxanavia)

Dr. Iorm Icewood, Antimatter Specialist (Kirav)

Dr. Colonius Treelands, Particle Physicist (Kirav)

Dr. Erik Bilur, Antimatter Theorist (Kirav)

Dr. Ian Rogers, Quantum Physicist (Pan-Arab Barronia)

Prof. Amanda Byrnes, Theoretical Chemist (Pan-Arab Barronia)

Prof. Nelson J. Peters, Chemical Engineer (Pan-Arab Barronia)

Dr. Samantha Tallow, Particle Physicist (Pan-Arab Barronia)

Mr. George Knight (MEng), Engineer (Pan-Arab Barronia)

Dr. Vansa Raer, Quantum Physicist, Nuclear Physicist, and Nanotechnology Theorist (Yallak)

Dr. Shanti Chandramayar-Anderson, director of the Akronian Institue of Quantum Mechanics, Anti-matter expert (Akronis)

Professor Rupert Kumar, professor of Theoretical Physics at the Royal Institute of Advanced Sciences in New Ripon. (Akronis)

Current Funding:

250 Billion dollars (Pan-Arab Barronia)

50 Billion dollars annually (Faxanavia)

1 Billion dollars (Akronis)

500 million annually (Akronis)
Faxanavia
15-09-2007, 23:32
The Faxanavian team director, Dr. Edward V. Quarson, was announced today. Dr. Quarson is one of Faxanavia's leading scientists, and works in close cooperation with both Faxanvian-based Ottomautics Inc., and with the Faxanavian government.
Vontanas
15-09-2007, 23:43
The Free Empire would like to donate three pounds of anti-cheese for study.
Kirav
15-09-2007, 23:49
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Kiravian Empire

Permissum Astrum Subleuco

Imperial Secriat of Science

Physics Office

The Kiravian Empire will send the following:

Dr. Iorm Icewood, Antimatter specialist from Sardson University

Dr. Colonius Treelands, Particle Physicist, director of our Particle Accelerator Project

Dr. Erik Bilur, Antimatter theorist from the University of Valëka
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 00:19
The Free Empire would like to donate three pounds of anti-cheese for study.

The Allied States happily accepts this kind donation, and asks if Vontanas has any anti-tomatoes or anti-wheat with which to make anti-pizza.
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 00:20
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Kiravian Empire

Permissum Astrum Subleuco

Imperial Secriat of Science

Physics Office

The Kiravian Empire will send the following:

Dr. Iorm Icewood, Antimatter specialist from Sardson University

Dr. Colonius Treelands, Particle Physicist, director of our Particle Accelerator Project

Dr. Erik Bilur, Antimatter theorist from the University of Valëka

The Allied States happily accept Kirav's team into our borders. We ask that they land at Faxanvia International airport in Vallingrad.
Vontanas
16-09-2007, 00:30
The Allied States happily accepts this kind donation, and asks if Vontanas has any anti-tomatoes or anti-wheat with which to make anti-pizza.

We were not aware such substances existed. Anyways, all of our brief research on anti-cheese can be found here (http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Anticheese).
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 00:35
We were not aware such substances existed. Anyways, all of our brief research on anti-cheese can be found here (http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Anticheese).

Well, such anti-gredients are purely theoretical. However, as we can see in Ienstien's famous "Theory of Cheeseativity", the theoretical cheesitude of any given point is directly inverse to exactly that points mass in pepperoni, or C= PExPie. For more, please consult your local particle physicist, or hobo.
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 00:55
The Faxanvian anti-matter research facility was a scientists dream. Beakers bubbled. Test tubes sat over bunsen burners. Centrefuges sat, prepared to do their jobs. Everything shined in the way that anti-bacterials do. In the corner, a small box hummed with the sound of electro-magnetic field. The box was filled entirely with the 3 pounds of what was basically the holes from swiss cheese.

Dr. Edward V. Quarson paced up and down the lab, looking nervous. Quarson always looked nervous. In this case, he wasn't nervous. He wasn't nervous about running a 200 billion dollar project. He wasn't nervous about the amount of equipment arrayed around him. He wasn't even nervous about the two tiny nuclear reactors powering this center, a mere 1000 feet below him. What he was, was excited.
Kirav
16-09-2007, 01:41
Drs. Icewood, Treelands, and Bilur disembarked their plane. It was a very interesting project they had signed onto, and they could not wait to see the facility.
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 12:37
The three doctors were met by Faxanvian national guardsman, and were escorted to the lab via classic Jeep. There, they would meet their team leader, and be ready to get to work.
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 13:10
Dr. Hope Charity was announced today to be joining the now vastly growing Faxanvian Anti-Matter Research Board. Dr. Charity is one of the three chairs at Knightscrossing University, and is, some say, solely responsible for the creation of the Faxanavian Non-nuclear compact, in which the scientific community strongly urged the government to consider non-nuclear WMD's as ordinance.
Yallak
16-09-2007, 13:41
Official Imperial Transmission
To: The Allied States of Faxanavia
From: The High Council of Arrandin
Re: Anti-Matter Research Board

You have set yourselves a worthy goal. Though the Infinite Empire of Yallak has already completed vast amounts of scientific research on anti-matter and already harnessed its power in weaponry, we would like to send along one of our scientists to observe and where appropriate to assist you in this research. It would be a shame after all if your inexperience resulted in an anti-matter ‘accident’.

Signed
Lord Sollonaal, Supreme Magistrate of Yallak
Pan-Arab Barronia
16-09-2007, 14:23
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This is indeed a worthy goal set for yourselves. We most certainly wish to give both human and financial assistance to your organisation. Owing to the possibilities of anti-matter as a fuel for electricity and power generation, Barronian Anbaric Works has requested to provide you with financial backing and the offer of building test facilities, etc. for continuing research.

We will donate $250 billion, to be spent as you will, and will donate the following scientists and researchers:

Dr. Ian Rogers, Quantum Physicist
Prof. Amanda Byrnes, Theoretical Chemist
Prof. Nelson J. Peters, Chemical Engineer
Dr. Samantha Tallow, Particle Physicist
Mr. George Knight (MEng), Engineer

These researchers are among the most senior in their fields, and will each endeavor to bring their own research technicians to the organisation.

We are also willing to provide a research station in Barronia, if this is required. Set in over 300 acres with limitless underground expansion possibility, this site would be perfect as an external research establishment.

We await your reply, and wish you the best of luck!

Barronian Foreign Affairs
Barronian Anbaric Works - Research and Development Division
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 15:06
The Allied States are very glad to hear of the Infinite Empire's application, and wish to please know the name and credentials of the scientist which they plan to send.
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 15:09
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This is indeed a worthy goal set for yourselves. We most certainly wish to give both human and financial assistance to your organisation. Owing to the possibilities of anti-matter as a fuel for electricity and power generation, Barronian Anbaric Works has requested to provide you with financial backing and the offer of building test facilities, etc. for continuing research.

We will donate $250 billion, to be spent as you will, and will donate the following scientists and researchers:

Dr. Ian Rogers, Quantum Physicist
Prof. Amanda Byrnes, Theoretical Chemist
Prof. Nelson J. Peters, Chemical Engineer
Dr. Samantha Tallow, Particle Physicist
Mr. George Knight (MEng), Engineer

These researchers are among the most senior in their fields, and will each endeavor to bring their own research technicians to the organisation.

We are also willing to provide a research station in Barronia, if this is required. Set in over 300 acres with limitless underground expansion possibility, this site would be perfect as an external research establishment.

We await your reply, and wish you the best of luck!

Barronian Foreign Affairs
Barronian Anbaric Works - Research and Development Division

The Allied States happily accepts Ban-Arab Barronia's kind and generous offer, and while we currently have all the area we need for land, we may need to expand, and thus, we ask that you keep such land open for possible use at a later date. We ask that your team lands at Faxanvia International Airport in Vallingard, at their earliest convenience.
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 16:28
Dr. Charity had arrived by Jeep as well. She marveled at the lab, but only briefly. There was work to be done.
Pan-Arab Barronia
16-09-2007, 16:45
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Excellent. The scientists will arrive together, as soon as they are able.

Blinking into the sunlight, Dr. Rogers stepped off of the chartered Barronian Imperial plane and onto foreign soil.

Assigned by Barronian Anbaric Works and the government to aid the research into antimatter and, more importantly, it's uses more as a fuel than as a weapon, he wasn't overly enthralled at the prospect of living away from his homeland for so long.

Taking a moment to take a few deep breaths, he began walking across the ramps toward the nearest terminal along with the others.
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 17:28
The Barronians were met at the gate by Faxanavian National Guardsman, and were taken by Jeep to their new living quarters. The large living complex would house all the scientists. It was seven stories high, with rooms on stories 3-7. The 2nd floor was mostly a social area, along with labs, and several telecommunications rooms. The bottom floor housed the entrance, along with a kitchen, a dining room, and a formal meeting room. The entire complex was protected by Faxanavian National Guardsman, well armed and always on patrol.
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 18:10
Dr. Quarson looked up from his work momentarily. A tiny red light blinked. Several of the foreign scientists. The Doctor pulled on his lab coat, and went to meet the new guests.
Vanek Drury Brieres
16-09-2007, 18:13
The Allied States of Vanek Drury Brieres wishes to send Dr. Ryan Carbon to the Anti-Matter Research Board as a representative of the VDB.
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 18:19
The Allied States accepts VDB's generous offer, but wishes to know exactly what Dr. Carbon's qualifications are, that we may post them for the world to see. (OOC: also, how Ryan Carbon can be both a scientist and a private in the practice war we're currently in :D)
Pan-Arab Barronia
16-09-2007, 18:25
The Barronians took a moment to gaze at the building they would be working in. As a guardsman walked pass, they entered the foyer, having been told to wait to be greeted.
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 18:29
Dr. Quarson strolled into the room, looking rather distracted. Then, he noticed the Barronians sitting quietly on the various arrayed sofa's, probably assuming they were being approached by a mad man. He straightened himself up, brushed himself down, and said, "I'm terribly sorry, ladies and gentlemen, for being late. My name is Dr. Edward V. Quarson, and I will be your team leader in the coming months. Now, it seems to me that we are still missing the Yallak, Kirav, and Vanek Drury Brieres representatives, but lets get this under way. Shall we go around and introduce ourselves?"
Pan-Arab Barronia
16-09-2007, 18:38
"But of course sir. I am Doctor Ian Rogers, Quantum Physicist for the Barronian Anbaric Works' Nuclear Generation Arm. My colleagues here are Professor Amanda Byrnes, Theoretical Chemist with the University of Parthenopolis. This is Professor Nelson Peters, a Chemical Engineer with Misenae Centralis University. Doctor Samantha Tallow, Particle Physicist with the Government. And last, but not least, George Knight, an Engineer with Barronian Anbaric also."

As he went through each member, they curtseyed or bowed as was with Barronian custom - usually too formal for many people's tastes, and startling for the others.
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 18:43
The doctor nodded and smiled at each one of them. He put all that curtseying and bowing down to one of those strange foreign customs.
"And, it is a pleasure to meet you all. Now, I feel we should get under way. The other representatives will be arriving soon, but we must make haste." He led the Barronians down the corridor and out into the birght sunlight. "I'm sure that you will find our labs more then adequate. Please, anything that you require, you have but to ask." He led them through the vast steel doors, and into the lab complex.
Pan-Arab Barronia
16-09-2007, 18:47
"Hmm, secure..." Ian nodded to his companions as they passed through the steel doors.

"So, Doctor Quarson, what has your research told you so far?"
Faxanavia
16-09-2007, 20:55
"Well," said the doctor, "So far our research is very simplistic. We've managed to isolate anti-hydrogen, the most basic of anti-matter. However, as far as utulizing it for energy, we are, as of yet, unsuccesful. This is why we have opened our program to the world."
Vanek Drury Brieres
17-09-2007, 00:26
Maybe I won't join this. 50-50 currently.
Yallak
17-09-2007, 11:19
The Allied States are very glad to hear of the Infinite Empire's application, and wish to please know the name and credentials of the scientist which they plan to send.

Encoded Imperial Transmission
Dr. Vansa Raer, the head of the physics department and the coordinator of the Imperial Institute for Research, Development and Nanotechnology (IRDN) facility has expressed interest in attending and we have authorised him to do so. He has Imperial degrees in Quantum Physics, Nuclear Physics and Nanotechnology.

He should be arriving shortly.

Signed
Lord Sollonaal, Supreme Magistrate of Yallak

OOC: How bigs this lab? Like about how many scientists could it have working in it at one time?
Faxanavia
17-09-2007, 23:43
OOC: Well, the lab is pretty big. It could probably hold up to a hundred-plus scientists, dispersed across the several rooms (main research area, Testing room, Nuclear test area, etc.)
Yallak
18-09-2007, 09:22
OOC: Hope you don’t mind I skipped the whole arriving stuff. And just to point out in advance, Yallakians have a significant disdain for foreigners.

IC:

By the time Dr. Vansa had finally arrived at the Faxanavian lab he was beginning to feel the effects of a very long day. When he left the empire it was just going on ten pm and now here the sun still shone brightly outside.

He surveyed the lab briefly as he made his way across to the other scientists already assembled. Crude…and rather small, but I suppose it should be decent enough if they’ve already made some anti-matter particles he thought as he approached the group of sofa's.

‘I trust I’m not too late,’ he began, ‘I am Dr. Vansa Raer of Yallak.’
Faxanavia
18-09-2007, 12:24
"Dr. Vansa! How kind of you to join us!" Dr. Quarson turned, beaming, and extended a hand. Vansa nodded, but did not accept the gesture (OOC: Sorry about the little bit of godmoding; I just figured that's what Vansa would do. If not, please tell me.) Not being halted by Vansa, Dr. Quarson led the man across the room. "Welcome, Dr. Vansa, to our humble laboratory. These are the representatives from Pan-Arab Barronia. We may have people coming in from Kirav as well, if they ever get here." The Doctor smiled at his own little joke. "So, tell me, what do you think of our lab?"
Yallak
18-09-2007, 14:55
OOC: That’s cool. I don’t mind creative liberty so long as it doesn’t change the course of events or kill my people lol. We can say he didn’t shake hands, its not a typically Yallakian way of greeting.

This is just a quick post before I go to bed.

IC:

Vansa gave an off-handed nod of acknowledgement to the Pan-Arab Barronians and then answered Dr. Quarson. ‘Adequate enough,’ he said simply. Although, in comparison to thirty-level, city sized, underground IRDN complex this lab appeared quite primitive, Vansa gave it the benefit of the doubt that it would actually measure up to the average lab.
Faxanavia
20-09-2007, 01:42
"Well, I'm glad we in the humble country of Faxanavia have earned the attention of the Infinite Empire." Said Dr. Quarson. Turning to face the whole group, he said, "Now, the lab is open for your use. Should you need anything, you have only to ask. You may now retire to your rooms, or stay here. I, myself, must continue my work." And with that, he strolled off.
Akronis
20-09-2007, 02:18
Official letter from the Akronian Office of the Minister of Sciences
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To whom it may concern,
The Principality of Akronis wishes to send a scientific team to Faxanavia to assist in the study of anti-matter and it's possible uses. The team will consist of the following:

Dr. Shanti Chandramayar-Anderson, director of the Akronian Institue of Quantum Mechanics. She has penned several theories and papers in the field and is the Principality's foremost expert in the study of anti-matter.

Professor Rupert Kumar, professor of Theoretical Physics at the Royal Institute of Advanced Sciences in New Ripon. He has been awarded the Royal Science Award twice and has co-authored work with Dr. Chandramayar.

The Principality also pledges a donation of one billion dollars, directly from the coffers of His Royal Highness Prince Matthias IV himself. From the whole Principality's funds there will be an annual donation of 500 million dollars.

Gregory Suresh, Minister of Science
New Ripon, Capital Island District,
Principality of Akronis
Faxanavia
22-09-2007, 22:43
The Allied States are very happy to hear of your kind actions, and happily accept your applicants. Please have them be transported to Vallingard International as soon as possible.
Akronis
22-09-2007, 23:07
Dr. Shanti Chandramayar-Anderson and Professor Rupert Kumar were Akronis's best minds on anti-matter... and yet they were in an economy class flight. "Well... the Principality spent so much money already... honestly I think it's just because Prince Matthias wants anti-matter weapons. You know how he is about 'making Akronis a well-known world power'," Dr. Anderson said to the Professor, who had complained about the transportation. "At least they paid for the flight," he admitted as the plane landed.

The two, dressed in thick coats as they were unused to the colder temperatures in Vallingard, got off the plane and looked around for who they were supposed to meet.
Faxanavia
22-09-2007, 23:53
Faxanavian National guards were waiting, as usual, for the Akronis scientists. guffawing silently at the tightly bundled scientists (Faxanavia can get pretty cold in winter, but it was summer then, and it was a cool 60 degrees out), they led them to the Faxanavian military jeep parked outside. From there, they were taken to the scientific complex that had been built to house the scientists.
Dr. Quarson was hard at work, in the late hours of the night. He had been pondering. Certainly, basic anti-matter was already in their grasp. The problem was the isolation of anti-matter; the creation. If only there were a way to easily mass produce anti-matter...
Akronis
22-09-2007, 23:58
The Doctor and Professor greeted Dr. Quarson, trying to ignore the strange looks of the guards. You'd be cold too if you grew up within walking distance of a jungle, Dr. Anderson thought. Professor Kumar spoke. "So, tell me... what are you currently working on?"
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 00:42
The doctor looked up at the Akronian (is that the correct word?) scientists. Extending a warm hand in welcome, he said, "Greetings, friends. We are glad to have you with us." He shook hands. "we have only just begun the project, and are still brainstorming how to go about or work. However, myself and Dr. Charity may have stumbled upon an idea." He led the Akronians over to a small arrangement of tables and chairs, a white board sitting at the head, almost as though it were a classroom. "We shall begin the explanation just as soon as our friends from Yallak and Pan-Arab Barronia join us."
Akronis
23-09-2007, 00:50
(Yep, you got it. Most people say "Akronisians")
Both Dr. Anderson and Professor Kumar shook his hand. "I am Dr. Shanti Chandramayar-Anderson, you can just call me Dr. Anderson or Shanti, and this is my colleague Professor Rupert Kumar. We're honored to be here," Dr. Anderson said.
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 00:59
OOC: For sake of time, I'm going to pretend that the Barronians, the Kiravians, and the Yallak rep have already arrived.
IC: The team was assembled. A force of knowledge. A team of 12. Twelve of the intellectual elite. Dr. Quarson looked over the assembled team, and wondered if they'd think he was insane. He certainly did. Still, he turned to his white board, and then to his colleagues, and began. "Ladies and gentleman, I welcome you. I thank you, on behalf of the Faxanavian government, and myself, for assembling here. We are here to forge a new path. To work with an almost untapped powersource: anti-matter. Unfortunately, we face a problem. The problem of generation. It is not that we cannot create anti-matter- we have anti-hydrogen in isolation. The problem is the inability to mass produce anti-matter. Imagine, gentleman. A powersource with power 10,000 times stronger then a TNT explosion. If we could harness it, imagine the possibilities. But, that is not what we are here to do. We are not here to imagine. We are here to make dreams come true." With a flourish, he pulled back the curtain covering the white board, to reveal a complex diagram. "Gentleman, we need to create a power source. We need to create something with the power to give us anti-matter. We need..." He paused for affect, "A star."
OOC: Well, not really a star. But a machine capable of producing energy comparable to that of a star.
Akronis
23-09-2007, 01:08
All of a sudden, Dr. Anderson felt like she shouldn't be here. The nations here were among the strongest, most powerful, most advanced nations in the world. And then there was Akronis, which was smaller than Rhode Island and wouldn't even have a space program for a good, long time. I think the Prince took some money out of the Space Program Fund for this, in fact... thought the Doctor.

Meanwhile, Professor Kumar gazed at the diagram, his eyes lighting up like a child's eyes on Christmas. "That... is a very interesting design," he said, a smile spreading across his face.
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 01:33
Quarson continued, "The concept is simplistic in it's design. Anti-matter is created anywhere there is a high concentration of energy collision. We merely need to replicate that effect in a controllable form. Therefore, if a machine can produce enough energy, it can produce anti-energy, or anti-matter. From there, we just need to work out how to extract it." He looked up from his blackboard. "So, any suggestions?"
Akronis
23-09-2007, 01:49
"Well... how are you going to get the power to make all this... power? And as for suggestions, powerful electromagnetic fields can be used to move the anti-matter from one place to another... so we'll need some superconducting magnets," Professor Kumar said, thinking.
Kirav
23-09-2007, 01:52
THe Kiravian scientists arrived in the lab facilities, and bust into the door.

"Yes, we have a suggestion! Gravity. If we can artificcialy produce some sort of cetrifugal force, a strong one of course, it should condense the antimatter particles into a small and distinguishable area, just as it does with matter. With hat done, the antimatter can, by whatever means we are to develop, be extracted and used further."
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 02:00
Quarson stared up. The Kiravians and the Akronians had both had excellent suggestions. Swiftly, he drew a new column on the board. "Containment". "excellent," he said. "What else?"
Yallak
23-09-2007, 12:52
'I have a suggestion,' Vansa added with a slight smirk, 'use a particle accelerator. They are much simpler in design and function than…well, whatever that is. Actually what is that? Would you care to explain this ‘star’ machine for us?’

You will also need to be specific in the type of anti-matter you produce because some like anti-hydrogen, the only one you yet made, has no charge or is neutral and cannot be contained by magnetic fields.’
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 16:58
'The problem," said Dr. Quarson, "Is that a particle accelerator takes much, much more energy. SPeeding up particles is much more of an expenditure then this concept. The idea here is quite basic- particles will get hot enough, they'll start going on their own. Particle collision occurs, and we have anti-matter. All we need to do is heat any area to high temeperatures- such as numbers high on the Kelvin scale. Nuclear energy should be sufficent to create such an area of heat. From there, we simply need to work out how to isolate those pockets of anti-matter which have positive charges before they annihalate themselves."
Akronis
23-09-2007, 17:19
"What kind of alloy or machine could withstand the massive amounts of heat generated? And from what I can tell, using incredible, star-like heat to move particles won't create antimatter, it'll make a nuclear fusion bomb. Definitely not what we're aiming for," Professor Kumar said.
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 17:53
"Within any space of intense heat, particle acelleration occurs. When particles collide, anti-matter is formed. Now, I am open to ideas. This is merely conceptual."
Akronis
23-09-2007, 18:15
"I really hate to butt heads here, but... if we bombard atoms together at high heat, like that of a star, they won't generate anti-matter, they'll collide and create helium. That's nuclear fusion, like inside the core of the sun. If we try and do that, we will have an incredible source of power, or even a weapon... but no anti-matter. Anti-matter has been created using specialized particle accelerators and decelerators, like my colleague from Yallak has said.

"However, if I'm not mistaken, anti-matter does occur naturally, using comsic radiation bombarding the atmosphere. However, that anti-matter is then destroyed. If we could somehow create this effect in a labratory, we could prevent the annihilation of the anti-matter," the Professor explained, recalling a thesis from one of his students.

(OOC- I did a little research on Wikipedia on antimatter, just so we at least have a minor understanding of what we're doing.)
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 18:20
"I apologize. My statement that it is like a star is a bit pre-emptive. But yes, that's the basic idea. Particles ram into each other, and the resulting explosion causes a minute amount of anti-matter to be generated. Particles will begin accelerating when we heat a space. Basic laws of thermodynamics. However, we then have to work out how to isolate these particles before they hit matter and are annihilated."

OOC: We probably read the same article.
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 18:25
OOC: to quote that article, "Antiparticles are also produced in any environment with a sufficiently high temperature (mean particle energy greater than the pair production threshold). During the period of baryogenesis, when the universe was extremely hot and dense, matter and antimatter were continually produced and annihilated." When space gets hot, particles accelerate, ram into each other, and, boom, anti-matter is generated.
Akronis
23-09-2007, 18:30
OOC- I really wish I had even a basic understanding of particle physics, so I knew what the heck Wikipedia was talking about. And also, I tried to read what "baryogenesis" was, but I couldn't understand it at all.
"In all the cases that I have seen, the maximum time that anti-matter has been kept from annihilated is ten seconds or so. If we did find a way to contain anti-matter, we'd have gone farther than anyone. Ever. There's a Nobel Prize right there. The problem is, though, that we have no precedent to base our theories off of. It would be complete guesswork. However, if we could manage to artifcially create a vacuum, I think that would be a good place to start. Less matter to collide with," Dr. Anderson spoke up again.
Caelapes
23-09-2007, 18:35
[OOC: I don't mean to be a negative nancy, but antimatter as a weapon isn't really MT at all.]

Can we make antimatter bombs?

There is no possibility to make antimatter bombs for the same reason you cannot use it to store energy: we can't accumulate enough of it at high enough density...

Source is CERN: http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Content/Chapters/Spotlight/SpotlightAandD-en.html
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 18:49
[OOC: I don't mean to be a negative nancy, but antimatter as a weapon isn't really MT at all.]



Source is CERN: http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Content/Chapters/Spotlight/SpotlightAandD-en.html

It's perfectly simple. Anti-matter is pretty easy to store and create, it just takes a while. From there, the implementation is simple. the collision of a gram of anti-matter with matter is ten thousand times more explosive then a gram of TNT.
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 18:57
"well, if the anti-matter had a positive or negative charge, couldn't we logicaly simply create a large electro-magnetic field, as though we had a vast magnet to pull it out?"
Akronis
23-09-2007, 19:54
It's perfectly simple. Anti-matter is pretty easy to store and create, it just takes a while. From there, the implementation is simple. the collision of a gram of anti-matter with matter is ten thousand times more explosive then a gram of TNT.
OOC- Yes, but at current production levels, it would take 2 billion years to create 1 gram of anti-matter. Honestly, I think this should at least be PMT, Post-Modern Tech.

"Yes, that was exactly the idea I had in mind. But could we create a magnetic field strong enough to attract the anti-matter within the very small window of time we have before annihilation? So many theories, so little time," Professor Kumar said with a chuckle.
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 22:37
OOC: probably the best idea. Although I'm a little uncomfortable about making it PMT, because I couldn't use it in most wars. Then again, current Faxanavian war doctrine would never use such a destructive weapon.
IC: Dr. Quarson stroked his mustache, as he always did when he thought. An idea struck him. "If we could somehow insure that all the molecules were of one charge, all the anti-molecules would logically be the opposite. From there, we could implement one large field, which is kept running continuosly so that any anti-matter is automatically pulled in, while any regular matter is repelled."
Kirav
23-09-2007, 22:57
Dr. Bilur considered the Faxnavian's words. THen he replied,"Thats ingenious! However, how would we go about makeing all the normal particles of a single charge?"
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 23:07
"aah. But that's the real question, now isn't it?" The doctor paced back and forth. there must be a logical answer... "Gentleman, do you have any suggestions?" he said to the other scientists.
OOC: geeze, but that's a hard question...I'll keep researching...
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 23:10
OOC: I may have a possibility. Tell me what you think. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_ioniser)
New Manth
23-09-2007, 23:22
OOC: probably the best idea. Although I'm a little uncomfortable about making it PMT, because I couldn't use it in most wars. Then again, current Faxanavian war doctrine would never use such a destructive weapon.

ooc: Just commenting as an observer, you will have a hard time convincing anyone that antimatter-based weaponry is modern tech... I would presume that sort of thing goes in mid to late PMT if not FT.
Faxanavia
23-09-2007, 23:27
ooc: Just commenting as an observer, you will have a hard time convincing anyone that antimatter-based weaponry is modern tech... I would presume that sort of thing goes in mid to late PMT.

OOC: Yeah, probably. Still, I don't think any of us would ever use Anti-matter weapons. A couple grams of anti-matter can pretty much decimate a country. As in, wipe it off the map.
Yallak
24-09-2007, 10:59
OOC: Anti-matter can only not be used now because of how long it takes to create sizeable amounts as already pointed out. All one is required to do is create a method by which it can be produced much faster. I've already done an RP where this was acheived and another one where an anti-matter missile was tested. I would of course always check with the person i was RPing with about using said missiles but there would be nothing PMT or FT about it.
Caelapes
24-09-2007, 11:09
OOC: Anti-matter can only not be used now because of how long it takes to create sizeable amounts as already pointed out. All one is required to do is create a method by which it can be produced much faster. I've already done an RP where this was acheived and another one where an anti-matter missile was tested. I would of course always check with the person i was RPing with about using said missiles but there would be nothing PMT or FT about it.

OOC: I'm sorry, but if CERN says that it is impossible to create and store large amounts of antimatter, I'm going to take their word over someone from NationStates. I will never roleplay antimatter for weaponry as being anything less than FT.
Yallak
24-09-2007, 11:23
OOC: I'm sorry, but if CERN says that it is impossible to create and store large amounts of antimatter, I'm going to take their word over someone from NationStates. I will never roleplay antimatter for weaponry as being anything less than FT.

That’s why this is called Role-playing, I role-played the creation of a more efficient anti-matter production method. As far as I know it’s scientifically feasible and yet it may not be. Hence why I would always check before using them in a MT RP - nobody has to take anyone’s word over CERN’s.
Faxanavia
24-09-2007, 12:20
OOC: Anti-matter can only not be used now because of how long it takes to create sizeable amounts as already pointed out. All one is required to do is create a method by which it can be produced much faster. I've already done an RP where this was acheived and another one where an anti-matter missile was tested. I would of course always check with the person i was RPing with about using said missiles but there would be nothing PMT or FT about it.

Actually, I'd be really interested to read that. Do you have any idea where the old posts might be?
Faxanavia
28-09-2007, 22:49
Ooc: Bump
Yallak
29-09-2007, 14:57
Actually, I'd be really interested to read that. Do you have any idea where the old posts might be?

Sorry, not so much time at the moment so I have to put what time i've got into some other RP's I was already involved in first.

Not sure where the research thread is. I could probably dig it up later though...
Faxanavia
29-09-2007, 14:59
OOC: It's cool. whatever works for you.
Faxanavia
30-09-2007, 23:25
OOC: To sum things up; I think the basic idea we have here is to heat one point with a non-defined source of energy, and to somehow charge all of the molecules (possibly with an air ionsier) positively or negatively, so that the negative energy will be the anti-charge and be attracted to an erected electro-magnetic field.