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IC Posts (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537706)

I'm looking for people interested in taking part in a practice war, to help one of my friends (Noctiana) become acquainted with how war in NS works. Basically, it'll be an MT, open war to...practice.
So, any takers?

People currently involved:
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Faxanavia
Noctiana
Jenrak
Cookesland
Orzio
Barage
Coliformia
Vanek Drury Brieres
New Brittonia
NC-Oakwood
Antigr

Vs.

Mokastana
Uiri
Hurtful Thoughts
Alfegos
NeoAztec
Soulforge Cathedral
Bull Horns Rule
Orbath

Sure Jenrak. Fell free to join in. I'll be assembling a list of people currently taking part, and we'll divide sides accordingly.

I'll help, if you need.

Sure Orzio. You can join in.

If it is alright, I would like to join. Give me some practice as well.

It doesn't matter what side you put me on, since it's practice anyways.

Sure Mokastana. You're in.

why not got nothing else going on

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

let's BUMP this post up!

May I join?

so when are we doing this??

Uiri, you can certainly join.
Mokastana, I'm gonna work on recruiting for a little bit longer. I also need ideas of exactly why we're all going to war in the first place. Any suggestions?

well currently my nation is feeling a little imperial, so we could have me invade your friend and allies and attackers enter...this way we can cover, naval warfare, beachheads, areal invasions, land warfare etc.

thats one idea..

That's not a bad idea. Imperialism is always an excellent excuse.

Can i get in? A little practice couldn't hurt

I'm all for a little ass kickin'. Imperialism... nice touch. Let's get this war started!!!!:cool:

are we going to do this on another thread?

Sure, I'm in if you don't mind.

Don't forget to set links to the IC/OOC threads on the first posts once the IC is up.

And as a bonus, ADAN won't exist in this RP.
(In fact, I may have to over-simplify a lot of things, such as not including my PMCs -which supplies the bulk of my military- and excluding FMP -a fringe group in opposition to my current government- from the equation)*

Pretty much I'm just the reminder, that there are no superpower nations on NS.
(I'm a nation of 3 to 5 billion and a military in excess of 80 to 160 million [2-4% militarized] and even then I'm a "small fry")
Just high and low-profile ones.

*Unless you really want free-market mercenaries and rogue agents running around, plus all the secret diplomacy, non-combat related factors of war, and betrayal involved...

And it is generally frowned upon to throw your entire nation's military against the enemy in one big push. Unless you like seeing them get incinerated by a tac-nuke...
(Or worse an Electro-Thermal I.G.N.O.R.R.E. Railgun)

sure, cookesland. You can join too.

I'm down for a war if there's still space available. Practice=Bueno.

Since my nation is quiet young, the reason for war could be Mokastana trying to invade me, I don't have my defenses or military ready for war, I call for help, etc. What about that?

So... I'd get involved because... erm... :headbang:
^Monthly allowance of smilies^

I suppose I could be allied with one of the nations, though it would help if everyones sig had a link to their factbooks.

Kingdom of Orzio (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536632)
People's Republic Of Hurtful Thoughts ---- Five Points Mafia ---- HOI (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/member.php?u=796353)

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Sets up temporary (for this RP only) embassy with Mokastana + Uiri
3 Staff
6 Security

3 SHAW-12Ks (A full auto shotgun/HMG, better suited for close-in high intensity fights)
3 CM-38 /w/ HM-320 Underbarrel Munition Launchers (Standard heavy assault rifle package)
3 HAP-655 PDW/Compact assault rifles (A really compact firearm)
9 combat shovels
18 throwing knives
12 Hand grenades
9 bayonets
4 Generic sedans /w/ armor plating and moonroof

For Uiri: (provided 'shovel' counts as a knife with 4" blade)
3 Diplomats: Combat Shovel
12 Security: Standard Assault rifle (CM-38 and HM-320)
5 armored sedans

Keep in mind these are peacetime allotments.
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The great Chitzi war... (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/The_Chitze_Revolution)
Now that was a war
(If above NS wiki link fails (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=477731), a much longer read)
It lasted over 1 RL year and 1450 posts...
It was one of the top 15 biggest NS wars of 2006
(Something on the scale of WW3 fought entirely in Spain)
It would take between a week or month to read...
And nobody is bothering to tally up the body count...
That or it is because of pride similar to that depicted in
"The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain " (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Englishman_Who_Went_Up_a_Hill_But_Came_Down_a_Mountain)

OK, so its Me, Hurtful Thoughts and Moakstana against everyone else, or does anyone else want to join the Imperialistic side?

BTW, I have a little over 1 billion so that's...8 million in the army. I'll edit in the numbers when I figure them out.

EDIT:

I have 880 000 soldiers in the land forces, 55 000 tanks and 220 000 operate those tanks. 890 000 pilots, 450 000 operate Eurocopter Tigers, 440 000 operate MiG-27s. I'll still have to work out my navy.

Mokastana: The point of the imperialistic war is that we are targeting a small fry who calls biggies to his rescue. We're supposed to have different sized armies.

perhaps because this is pratice we all have similar armies..in size in this theature anyways...you know we all just stick with an army of lets say...4-6 million...that seems good

I'd be up for supplying arms to either of the opponents, and maybe send in a few mercenaries to cause a little chaos and build up tension. If that's alright with you?

ok then, i just no that this is a training war for Noctiana, which hasnt even said hi....

lets get this party started

I got an idea. If someone invades because of imperialism, I become an imperialistic pysco and then invade the second time. (I think it was a good idea.)

perhaps because this is pratice we all have similar armies..in size in this theature anyways...you know we all just stick with an army of lets say...4-6 million...that seems good

Just not realistic when considering the dynamics of NS.
-At least that was how it seemed when the Parthians landed in Chitzeland to swamp my three infantry divisions... (Something like outnumbered 20:1 on a good day, I considered myself lucky simply by forcing them to withdraw due to attrition)

Although, larger/older nations tend to have a greater number of their troops tied up due to threats from other nations (since they had more time to develop enemies)

Also, being a 'practice' war (not a wargame), the events that unfold have no true consequences upon your IC nation (I suppose you don't even need to use your alloted nation, but it keeps things simple) thus, take losses liberally, or come up with the world's greatest reason why they ain't dead.

This is the big "What If?" As to what would happen if some group of self-proclaimed superpower Alliance on NS decided to declare wholesale war upon weaker nations.
*cough* Corprate Alliance *cough*

So... how much of my military do you wish for me not to use?
Eh, I'll just send HOI...
HOI: 30 Million Men (Independently trained, staffed and financed)
1500 HOI Militia Divisions
Per division 20,000 men
1 Division = 5 brigades
1 Brigade =5 Battalions
20,000 CM-38 Squad Automatic Rifles
10,000 HM-320 Grenade launchers
5,000 MMP-1 UAVs
500 MC-5 mortars
500 HT-5 trucks
500 Truck drawn 10 ton wagons
2,000 horses

Marine Division
15,500 men
5 Brigades/Task Forces and one Assault Carrier
Brigade = 4 Battalions

50 Hiragi class Bombardment ships
250 Katana class Frigates
50 Terror class HMKs
5 Auxillary Cruiser
115 Barbour class supply ships
10 Firebrand LPHs
100 Tango class submarines
100 HLCACs
25 CH-47 Chinooks
150 Mi-26 Halos
80 UL-2000 ultralights
200 HT-101F2
100 HT-5
25 HT-106C3
100 CC-5
200 MC-5

100 Mechanised HOI Divisions
1 Division = 5 Brigades
1Brigade = 5 Battalions
20,000 men
150 HT-101F2
50 HT-106C3
150 HT-5
50 HTA-108
100 CC-5
200 MC-5


And the Five Points Mafia. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520760)

I'll also apply my regular military's air force and navy.

I want to get in on this, it will probably help me out too.

Okay, I put up a brief post to get us started:
this is it. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13033571#post13033571)

I apologize for my lack of posting, I've been quite busy today.
Sorry that Noctian has not been on. He's very much intermittently online, but I'll send him an e-mail.
Finally, that sounds fine. Hurtful Thoughts, Mokastana, and Uiri fighting against the rest of us. I figure, we'll be almost even then.
Faxanavia will post her planned ORBAT shortly.

Uiri's Total Military:

Uiri's naval ships:

400 x Jeanne d'Arc (R 97)(Helicopter Carrier/Cruiser)(750 men each)
1000 x Francis Garnier (L9031)(Amphibious Assault Ships)(140 mean each)
1000 x Dupuy de Lome (A759)(Auxillary)(100 men each)
1000 x Dougay-Trouin (D 611)(Frigate/Patrol)(300 men each)
757 x Perle (S 606)(Submarine)(70 men each)

Uiri's Land Forces:

880 000 men
55 000 x Leclerc(4 men each)

Uiri's Air Forces:

450 000 x EuroCopter Tigers(1 pilot)(Fighter)
440 000 x MiG-27's(1 pilot)(Bomber)

Most likely to send:
1 Marine Brigade (to secure a DZ)
1 Army Air Wing (For air support, shall be attached to Marine brigade)
30 Mechanized HOI divisions (Armored spearhead)
300 HOI Milita (the shaft)

With such a group, and maybe a few Marine Brigades and air-wings in resserve, I could take on 3 seprate nations simultaniously.

Plus periodic reinforcements.
And maybe even a M.U.H.T. or two if conditions are suitable for its use.
(Use is similar to American 280 mm 'Atomic Cannon' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GQj-0bT2J0))

Don't pick on the horses... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZbBCqSgLOE)
And before you pick on the chinese:
Operation Buster-Jangle/Desert Rock III (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0N9Jr8Afhk)
Operation Plumbob/Desert Rock VII (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYQOfs98ljM)
(A series of tests of combat effectiveness of various units after a tactical nuke strike)
http://www.archive.org/details/ExerciseDesertRock1951
(The Chinese did in one test what it took the Americans dozens of)
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Note:
Uiri, don't forget logistics, those planes require constant maintnance.
That's also a rather large group of planes/ships...
The only things I have over 100,000 of are small arms, supply trucks, and soldiers...

Yes, I know. There is 1 person running logistics for every Land forces soldier, 3 for every pilot and 2 for ever Marine. 8 million and only 2.663 million are actual troops. Even less.

Oh and BTW I'm only sending in a fifth of my army.

Faxanavia's ORBAT
Naval Forces:
2 x Gerald R. Ford Class Supercarriers
2 x Ajax Class Battleships
8 x Arsenal Class Missile Cruisers
8 x Daring Class Air Defense Destroyers
8 x Zumwalt Class Missile Destroyers
4 x Brandenburg Class ASW Frigates
8 x Allegro Class Attack Submarines
2 x Ohio Class Ballistic Missile Submarines
2 x Advanced SEAL Delivery System
4 x Supply Class Fast Combat Support Ships
2 x Osprey Class Mine Hunters
5 x Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ships
5 x San Antonio Class Amphibious Assault Ships
20 x Jolly Roger Class Combat Ships
15 x LCAC Air Cushioned Landing Crafts
10 x LCU-2000 Utility Landing Crafts
70 x M-49 Terriers or EFV Amphibious Assault Vehicles

Air Forces:
3 x B-52 Bombers
100 x Faxanavian F-11 Mudhens
20 x F/A-401 Bird of Prey
20 x F-22 Raptor

Land Forces:
50,000 x armed troops
500 x LY219 Ironheart APCs

More will probably be deployed, but this is my basic deployment.

Entire functional military stock, including diplomatic officers and soldiers:

35.6 Million Foot Soldiers
6 Million Naval Soldiers
12,000 Airforce Pilots
Jeremiah H. Bullfrog, Secretary of War (and department)
Dan Furman, Minister of Foreign Relations
Milo D. Stalin, Prime Minister

Weapons and Vehicles, etc:

100,000 PPS-43 Submachine Guns;
12000 2B14-1 PODNOS 82mm Mortars;
400 Triple MiniGuns (Chainsaws);
200 Ciorny Orial tanks;
200 S-300 Surface-to-Air missiles;
120 Mi-24 Helicopters;
1000 RACJAM Signal Jammers;
2 FU-160 Blackjack;
400 MM-1 Mobile Mines;
8 Achillies Variable Yield E-bombs;
001-NNEMP-EPFCG Long Range Air-to-Air "Air Raid" Mk. 1.

All other confidential or withheld.

Imperial forces of Mokastana to be deployed

Primary:

Ground Force:

5,000 paratroopers

Imperial Battle Division: (to arrive be sea)
20,000 Standard Infantry
1,000 Ironheart APCs (12,000)
1,000 Ironheart IFVs (8,000)
500 T-90S MBT
500 AMJ3 MBT
100 Ironheart SAM
200 Patriot Batteries
500 AH-64D Apache Longbow
200 Mi-24 Hind
600 AAA-M Artillery (155mm Guns-mobile)

Navy:
5 Livertad class battle cruisers
3 Zapata class battle ship
4 Zapatista class battle ship
20 St. Alvido Class Medium range Submarine
10 Warrior Class Missile Submarine
10 Typhoon Class submarines
10 Sea Wolf Class Attack Submarines
10 Junventud Class Submarine
2 Nemesis Class Stealth Super carriers
10 Arsenal Class Stealth Missile Cruisers
5 Zumwalt Class Stealth Missile Destroyers
5 Sachsen Class Stealth Air Defense Frigate
50 Dugal class troop transports

Air Force:

60 F/A-401 Bird of Preys
50 x Ilyushin Il-76 transport
20x Tupolev Tu-95 "Bear"
50 MIG-29


information on my stuff should be here
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13034882#post13034882

OOC:that seems like a bug army for a nation of 100 million

Can I join in? I'm always up for Wargames. *yay*

Wow, I might be up against Hurful thoughts...(Pretty damn weird, as he's my neighbouring nation and damn good ally)

I am a nation of 2.801 billion, with a damn decent military for a nation of my size and unfantastic economy.

For the record, would I be against Hurtful Thoughts or fighting with? (Must be answered)

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Forces to send:

2nd ARMY AIRBORNE CORPS

-Four Airborne Divisions (2 remaining divisions have to be left in Antigr, others fighting somewhere)

-1 Specialised Air Cavalry Regiment

-1 Regular Army fire-support regiment

-Three SSD Special Forces detachments

XIV CORPS

-12 Armoured Divisions
-2 Cavalry Dvisions
-3 Artillery and Fire Support Divisions
-9 Infantry Divisions
-2 Air Cavalry Divisions
-SSD Detachment for every 2 divisions
-2 1000mm Railguns
-4 415mm Railguns

III CORPS

-7 Armoured Divisions
-1 Cavalry Division
-5 Artillery and Fire Support Divisions
-10 Infantry Divisions
-3 Armoured Infantry Divsions
-5 Air Cavalry Divisions
-3 Engineer Divisions (Supports the entire regular army force, not just III Corps)
-SSD Detachment for every 2 divisions
-2 1000mm Railguns
-4 415mm Railguns

AIR FORCE SUPPORT WING

-37 Squadrons
-1 Air Force Field Division (For Airfield Defence)

PLUS

-9 Independent Tank Regiments
-8 Navy Marine Divisions IF there is a coast for them to operate on (Please inform me if there is/isn't)
-2 Navy Fleets IF there is a coast for them to operate on (Please inform me if there is/isn't)
-SSD Detachment for every 25,000 personnel
-5 Civil Guard Divisions
-1 1000mm Railgun
-2 415mm Railguns

This organisation is known as the 5th Army, and was first formed 55 years ago. This is the entire 5th Army, excluding IX corps to be shipped in as reinforcements if neccesary, marines, navy, and air force personnel.
Please note that railguns are fully MT-capable and that it is fair play.

Antigr, it sounds like Uiri, Mokastana and HT want to be on their own team. Don't take my word for it, but that's what it seems like.


Orzio military forces (for this war):

Land:
Tanks:
500 M1A1 Abrams MBT
500 M-43 Diablo MBT

Infantry:
1,000 M-45 Mongoose IFV
2,000 M117 “Up-Armored” HMMWV’s
100 M6 Bradley Linebackers

Artillery:
100 M-40 Punisher
100 M777 155 mm Howitzers
200 M224 60 mm Mortars
50 XM31 MLRS

Other:
10 M1 Grizzly “Breachers”
50 M1108 Universal Carriers


Air:
Fighters:
20 F-16C Fighting Falcons
20 F-15E Strike Eagles
100 F-46 Razors
100 FB-22 Strike Raptors

Bombers:
100 B-52 Stratofortresses
20 A-10 Thunderbolt II’s

Helos:
40 UH-60 Blackhawks
20 AH-64D Apache Longbows
20 HM1 Merlins

Other:
2 KC-10 Stratotankers
2 E-3 Sentry AWACS
10 C-130 Hercules
2 RQ-1 Predators
10 AC-130 Spectres
20 KC-135 Stratotankers
10 E-4 Nightwatches


Sea:
10 Hamina Class Missile Boats
20 Mark V Special Operations Craft
20 Combat Boat 90


And 4 million soldiers, armed with M-16s, P239s (sidearm), and various other heavy weapons.

Also note that the Orzio coastal waters have been mined, and the Orzian military has the ability to mine the beaches or other areas. As well, we also have a small satillite network in operation. I also have AA defenses, but have not set them up yet. If you wish to see a map, check out my factbook, link in my sig.

Got room for another?

I'm new to NationStates, but I like to delude myself that I'm a halfway-decent writer. I don't have a Factbook yet for Coliformia, but since we're a relatively new nation, I don't see us having a whole lot. We'd be contributing a regimental combat team or two to a larger, multinational force. :)

Signing up:

4th Expeditionary Force-

2 nd Army, Mechanised Divisions 3, 4 and 7, 8 (250 000 men, 25 000 IFVs, 2500 MGS, 1250 MS, 40 Command)
2 nd Engineer Regiment (400 EFVs, 6250 men)
Artillery Divisions 1 and 3 (100 MLRS (L300 Manticore) - 200 SPAL - 01 - 120 SPAH - 01)
Armoured Divisions 4 and 5 (100 MBTs, 200 MTs, 100 LTs, 400 AA)
Special Weapons Division 4 (31, 125 men - AF - 07/Special Weapons)

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3 rd Air Arm

30 x Interceptors
50 X Mulitroles
20 X Fighter-Bombers
20 X Heavy Bombers
20 X Medium Bombers
10 X Light Bombers
10 x Fuel Tankers
50 x Transports
1 x Mobile Command Base

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Surface Group Zelas

3 x Grand Cruisers (Nautilus class)
3 x Cruisers (River class)
10 x Destroyers (00 class)
10 x Frigates ( Tree class)

40 x Troops Transports
800 x Assault Landing Craft

1 x Supercarrier (Fegos Class) - (60 Multirole Fighters)

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2 x Intel Squads
5 x Submarines (Snake class)

Sending:

20x Orion Class Battleships
5x Andromeda Class Supercarriers
40x Bellatrix Class Destroyers
150x Amphbious Assault vehicles

123rd Armed Division
104th Armed Division
145th Armed Divison

50x Sealion Class Submarines


550,000 infantry

If you want to help us with our imperialist practice war, go ahead and asisst us. Particularly if you're apart of (the now dissolved) EVIL. My forces for this war are as follows:

80 x Jeanne d'Arc (R 97)(Helicopter Carrier/Cruiser)(750 men each)
200 x Francis Garnier (L9031)(Amphibious Assault Ships)(140 mean each)
200 x Dupuy de Lome (A759)(Auxillary)(100 men each)
200 x Dougay-Trouin (D 611)(Frigate/Patrol)(300 men each)
152 x Perle (S 606)(Submarine)(70 men each)(One of them is the Minister-President's)
178,640 men each armed with a Beretta 92F

132,000 men each armed with a Beretta 92F and a Famas
44,000 men working tanks, each armed with a Beretta 92F
11,000 Leclercs

88,000 MiG-27's
90,000 EC Tigers
178,000 pilots

1,067,280 Logistics personnel on land.

Can I join in? I'm always up for Wargames. *yay*

Wow, I might be up against Hurful thoughts...(Pretty damn weird, as he's my neighbouring nation and damn good ally)

I am a nation of 2.801 billion, with a damn decent military for a nation of my size and unfantastic economy.

For the record, would I be against Hurtful Thoughts or fighting with? (Must be answered)

Weird hardly begins to describe it...

Well, at least this garauntees my chance to RP the employment of my 'great motte' and employ some MUHTs (Most portable 12" 'railgun' ever [actually a conventional ETC with railgun assist, but eh...])

Plus I'll make sure to note that the offensive is a corprate sponsored -HOI- invasion with no endorsment from my government. (That or I go 'mirror-mirror')
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So... when does all this invading start on the IC which is already up and running?
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And shouldn't the attackers pick what order of nations to attack first?
Take advantage of TGs and this OOC thread for planning please!

i have already attacked...but the combat is sluggish

yeah, I'm sorry about that. It seems that the imperial side is on way more often then the non-imperials. Maybe we can even the playing field when they got online. Until then, Faxanavia has made it's first offensive.

Okay, anti-imperial forces: get online. It's me up against Uiri and Alfegos and Hurtful Thoughts (it seems Mokastana is off bombing Orzio.) I can mobilize more forces, but I really don't stand a chance- 123 million people versus something like 3 billion total.

also, Coliformia, you can certainly join.

I'm so in this! That is, please?

Sure VDB, you can join.

I've switched around the sides, to even them up a little bit. Any objections, just let me know.

Can I join?

certainly.

Just joined, and I have a small nation, but would love some practice, and an idea of how to wage war. Thanks

sure.

What side should I be on? To even it out?

I stuck you on the anti-imperialist side.

Cool. Making opening post.

i would like to join and get to know all how this works

This would be good for you (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408855).

Hey Fax, I'm listed twice on the anti-imperial side.

Sorry about that. It's been fixed.

Can I join? I'd like to be one of the invading parties.

sure, Orbath. You can join Imperial.

Can I join? I'll be the defense side.

I'm not listed.

Though I'd like to be on the defenders. I can commit another 50 divisions if need be.

yep. You're on defense.

Yes, I'm on Vanek's side!!!!

(Troop details soon)

Orbath wasn't an imperialistic nation,
-Snip-
They would then station troops all over, claim as much as they could in the name of Orbath and restore a sane, peaceful, democratic government.

Most of the attacks had been large scale, hundreds of aircraft or munitions that were either batted out of the sky or met with hundreds of interceptors.

Thousands were dying for nothing.

Stealth would be the way to go for now. No declaration of war, a couple of stealth bomber strikes and an unknown naval task force would appear off the coast within a few days. Maybe even some special forces strikes.

-It walks like imperialism, talks like imperialism... (Or its modern cousin, interventionism)
-Most attacks in war are large.
-People die.

Pointers for later:
-'Spam and Jam' is generally the way to go from here on out, with stealth only used on the very openeing day (or the day before). Stringing your stealth strikes out only gives him more time to react.
-'Stealth' as you'll soon see, isn't foolproof. Especially against survailence radars (Long/meter wave). Although it helps immensly against Fire Control Radars (Ultra short/Millimeter wave Radar). And jamming/active radar cancelation works well against the long range RADAR.

Good points:
-Nice post on focusing on SEAD, paving a clear corridor for further airstrikes
-Use of highly RP detailed SF could be quite effective in this RP. More than offsetting the difficulties in getting them there.
-Jamming is jamming so you need not worry about enemy long wave radar (though all radar would be scrambled to some extent).

Thought:
So nobody is wondering -oocly- what the Five Points Mafia is gonna do with those 15 Kt nukes?

Yes, I'm on Vanek's side!!!!

(Troop details soon)

MUHAHAHAHA!!! We're going to kick butt!

So can I join?

Personally, I would join the Imperials, but you may want to wait for Fax....

So can I join?

Yes. You can join. Although, frankly, I don't see the anti-imperials lasting much longer, with Alfegos apparently somehow able to block every single one of my attacks.

Sorry, due to the fact that I completely forgot about this thread, I'll back off from this.

OK, I just want to narrow down the actual list of fighters because a lot people join here but don't post in the war thread. Here is what it is looking like:

Imperialists:
Mokastana
Uiri
Hurtful Thoughts
Alfegos

Defenders:
Noctiana
Faxanavia
Orzio
Vanek Drury Brieres
Any one else who wants to defend

Intervensionist:
Orbath
Anyone else who wants to invade

Note, this is what Uir have for intel. Orbath shall be shot down by my forces, under reasons of too many ways to split the spoils. Other 'Imperialist' or Interventionist nations shall also be shot down.

I'm from the Defenders side.

What are your numbers? Where are your RP posts?

My other Nation was canceled, it was named "Socialist States Union" search it. I had like 350 posts.

You haven't RPed any troops. As far as Uiri is concerned you are not involved in the conflict.

My primary fleet:
12 Aeolus-Class Carriers
20 Talos-Class Missile Cruisers
80 Aegis-Class Interference Vessels
55 Leto-Class Attack Submarines
200 Echo-Class Multi-Purpose Destroyers
45 Nereid-Class Cruisers
In addition is my secondary fleet of supply and transport ships.

Ground Forces:
1,250 DRC Divisions (20,000 men per)
15,000 MAR Mk 1.0 (Assault Rifles)
2,500 MAR Mk 1.4 (Sniper rifles)
2,500 MAR Mk 1.3 (Integral Grendade L)
1,500 MRL Mk 1.1/4 (Rocket Launchers)
750 MM Mk. 1.0 (Mortars)
5,000 KLAV Mk 1.0 (Infantry Fighting V)
75 Armoured Divisions (20,000 men per)
KMBT (Main Battle Tank)
KLSV (Scout Vehicle)
KLAV (Infantry Fighting V)
KMA-P (Mobile Artillery Piece)
KIS (Interference V)

I'm not exactly what side I'm supposed to be on, so somebody should tell me that. I've made my intro post in the IC thread, and it's pretty generic as to what side I'm on.

I would like to talk about the fact of EMP and ICBMs. How have you set up ICBM and EMP stations already? That mainly goes for Mokastana, and how has Alfegos got those? Basically, how have you set up missile stations so quickly? It doesn't make much sense to me.

Yeah ill definitely be involved. I can get some practice myself. :mp5:

I recommend you read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357975) first.

Can we just agree that WMDs shouldn't be used? By that I mean biological, chemical and nuclear weapons of any sort. I don't really consider an EMP that bad.

VDB, perhaps they bought them from someone?

But how did they get them to the battlefield so fast and set them up so fast with out being attacked? That's my question.

Don't know, but I think we all are taking some liberties that wouldn't be taken in a normal II battle...

Guess we should've laid down a few more ground rules in the beginning.

OOC: Just to clarify... nobody involved yet knows i'm involved. I haven't publicly announced it or anything. My bombers also cannot be traced back to Orbath.

They could be launched from a plane, no? And Faxanavia borders Noctiana so they would be easily able to launch E-Bombs.

what the hecks up with the EMP bombs? Isn't that PMT?

Updated List

Imperialists:
Mokastana
Uiri
Hurtful Thoughts
Alfegos

Defenders:
Noctiana
Faxanavia
Orzio
Vanek Drury Brieres
Cookesland
Any one else who wants to defend

Intervensionist:
Orbath
Anyone else who wants to invade

I mean about Mokastana and Alfegos.

EMP Bombs are very much MT. They're incredibly simpilstic to build. I could build a low yield EMP weapon in my basement.

What about that ICBM? Where was that launched?

Better question, when was that launched?

VDB, please stop ignoring me.

EDIT: Oh, well, wasn't that launched from Alfegos, afterall, it would have a range of atleast 3,000 km.

Alfegos launched an ICBM on a Faxanvian air base. I proceeded to blow it out of the air, and ignore his next attack on Fax on the grounds that he was firing missles going mach 25.

Can someone post a map of what is going on or attempt to explain it to me? I've read through several times but it seems as though there are various battles occuring at the same time and I can't tell who is where and who is part of each battle. I'm even having a bit of trouble keeping track of who is on what side. I think an idea would be to seperate the war into theaters and create a thread for each or have everyone simply put a bolded title at the top of their posts stating where the battle is taking place, for example.

Above Strawberry Fields

or

Just off the NE Coast, 20 Miles from land

Just a suggestion anyway.

Better question, when was that launched?

VDB, please stop ignoring me.

EDIT: Oh, well, wasn't that launched from Alfegos, afterall, it would have a range of atleast 3,000 km.


No offense, but INTERCONTINENTAL Ballistic Missile? On the same continent?

Please see. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408855)

how DOES war work here?

*Cradles head in hands and starts crying*

Ah well, hopefully everyone is learning from this and figuring out ways to do better on the next post, rather than "rabbit posting" the same stuff that got them to this problem in the first place.

Please, rather than just replying as a knee-jerk reaction to the last post, try and put it towards a larger post that accomplishes more than:

"I attack you, this is what I expect it to do"
"This is how I reduce my losses and increase yours, and what I expect it to do"
etc.

Locations and times of your actions, who does it, and 'the human factor' add immensly.
Also take into consideration that your own actions can hurt yourself in the long run more than the enemy ever will.

*Yes, I know my last post was crap, but it's late, I've got school and a job interview tomorrow.
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And Domagoslavia, this isn't exactly the best place to ask how to RP a war.
(Or at least, not the best time to post something like that in front of me)
*Calms dow a bit*
War over here is completely text based, both on IRC chat, TGs, E-mail, and on these excellent high quality free forums (plus offsites, but that you'l learn about later).

In short, what you see is what you get, so it is generally best to use immagination, textbooks, novels, and the best writting skills you have, in order to make it all work.

Each post, on its own, should be like a chapter, or an episode, recapping previous events so nobody gets lost if they miss a post or two, and so they know what you are responding to. Each post should, if ripped completely out of the thread, continue to make sense. Each thread, is like a season, each alternate 'Earth' is like a series or genre.

That advice will now cost you 1/8th of your soul.

Sorry I couldn't give you the full remidial, but the pinned topics and this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYNP-9C0_oI) should help a bit.
Hopefully that should prepare you for the inevitable encounter you'll have (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyq5w5WmYys) that'll look someting like a 3rd world power against an ICBM nukespamfest.

Time for HOI to sel more guns to child armies... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKkcNYtG06A)

bumpage...