NationStates Jolt Archive

Dearth
Where Stupid Rules Don't Apply
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WE ARE USING MODERN POPULATIONS. STOP USING 1860 POPULATIONS.
DO NOT CLAIM COLONIES IN INITIAL CLAIM.

I know that there have been a lot of Earths all over the place. I know that many of them claim to be totally different, but in the end they just let in all the crappy RPers and make tons of strange rules that make no sense, and use the same map as every other NSEarth, and force you to use premade borders. Well, no more. This is Dearth. The noobless, crappy ruleless, stupid restrictionless Earth. Here you can create your own borders (within reason), government, population disposition, etc. You can make it a nation that never existed, one that did, one that does, whatever.

But still, I can't make an Earth with absolutely no rules, so here they are..

Technology:
The timeframe here is 1860 and on. It is a time of gatling guns, new repeating rifles, ironclads-hell, even some crappy subs that are more of a deathtrap than a weapon. Yes, despite how freeform this is, you DO have to stay within the restrictions. We can't have one nation with muskets and another with spaceships, obviously. Depending on the technological advancedness of your nation, you will be able to develope new technology a few years before they were made IRL.

Population:
This really shouldn't be the issue so many RP's make it out to be. We'll use modern populations, and since this is freeform border making, you WILL be in charge of finding the population of the land you control. My nation on there is a perfect example. I looked up each of the Turkish, Crimean, and Italian provinces that I controlled and factored in their populations. If you control a nation with chunks of it taken by someone else, talk to them about it and discuss what you do and do not have. It should be easy if they've taken the time to keep track of such things.

NPCs:
If you're invading a land that no one controls, talk to me. I'll tell you what is there and what they have. Hell, I'll add them to the map so you know exactly what you're facing. Maybe I'll RP them for you.

Noobs:
Gtfo

Land:
Now this was the most problematic part of this. Freeform borders, so how does land work? Well, if you have a brain capable of more than "LOL CLAIM ALL THE LANDZ 4 M3" you will be able to understand that what you claim MUST be limited. I do not want to see anyone claiming the entirety of the US. It has too high a population and is too big for this. If you want the entire US, you fight for it or fuck off. That may be harsh, but I'm absolutely tired of seeing RPs with people claiming entire 100,000,000 nations and just doing whatever they want with them. If it is in a small area, that's another story. If you take up Germany, you'll have a large population regardless, but with the US it's just not acceptable.

As well, population density counts in this. Take Russia for example. Massive unpopulated areas of land. Large portions can definetly be taken. Franberry's claim on the map is a good example of this. Southern America has low density, so his claim is fairly bigger.

Military:
Military is restricted to technology that has been developed. As well, 1% of population is the limit unless you are at war or have conscription. Conscripted forces MUST be RP'd properly less talented than a volunteer force.

General:
This thread is a claim and OOC thread. Everyone is required to make a factbook going over basic information and military. Wars will be conducted in seperate threads. Obviously no flaming, godmodding, and no ignoring unless their is a good reason. Myself and Franberry are the mods. We decide if something is ignorable.

Claims:
Zukariaa - Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13029168#post13029168)
Greece, Turkey (Constantinople Area and Coastal Areas), Crimea (tip), Italy (tip), Cyprus

Franberry - Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13029238&postcount=6)
Most of Argentina, Lower Half of Chile, Uruguay, Southern Bit of Brazil, Antarctic Pennensula

Kampfers - Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13029098&postcount=2)
Florida, Texas, Lousiana, Coastal Portions of Alabama and Mississippi, Coahuila, Nuevo Leon, Tamaulipas, San Luis Potosi, Veracruz, Tabasco, Ampeche, Yucatan

Granate -
Germany, Austria, Northern Italy, Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium

Jaredcohenia -
North Eastern United States, Virginia, Maryland, part of North Carolina (the good part), Ohio, New England, Delaware, Washingdon DC, South Ontario, South Quebec, Newfoundland, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island

Doomingsland -
Jerusalem, Gaza

Artitsa - Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13029972&postcount=18)
Ireland, Wales, Iceland, Part of Greenland, Strip of Coast of Northern Canada

Lachenburg - Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13031320&postcount=30)
South Africa

Spit Break -
Japan, Korea, Small chunk of Manchuria

Fordock - Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13035414&postcount=80)
Lower Egypt, Sinai Pennensula, Coast of Arabia

Spizania -
England, Scotland, Northern Coast of France, Portion of Northern Spain

Skibereen -
Norway, Sweden, Finland

Pyschotika -
Baltic States, Northern European Russia, Belarus

Warmaster -
Most of Italy, Sardinia, Tunisia, coast of Libya

Threads:
Spanish-Italian War (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538214)

My Claim:

Florida, Texas, Lousiana, Coastal Portions of Alabama and Mississippi, Coahuila, Nuevo Leon, Tamaulipas, San Luis Potosi, Veracruz, Tabasco, Ampeche, Yucatan.

I am drawing myself on the map currently. Shall edit in the link when finished.

EDIT: http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/dearthmap.png

I will edit stuff in here that are factbookish, so i have an easy reference for when I make it... *steals Zuk's style shamelessly*

General:
Long Form: The Gulf Conglomerate
Short Form: The Conglomerate
Government Type: Republican Democracy
Presider: Billy Gibbons
Economic Ideology: Extreme Capitalism
Capital: Dallas

Population: 70,438,444

Economy: Very Strong in the North, Moderate in the Center, Moderate/in the South

Military:
700,000 men in navy/army combined. WIP.

History:
WIP

I updated the map and added Kampfers. Here is my factbook, which I'll add under myself on the nations list.

The Byzantine Kingdom
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Flag_of_Greece_%281828-1978%29.svg

General:
Long Form: The Kingdom of Byzantium
Short Form: The Byzantine Kingdom
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Monarch: Alexander Komnenus
Economic Ideology: Capitalist
Capital: Constantinople

Population: 35,479,000
-Greece: 11,170,957
-Turkey: 21,556,000
-Cyprus: 855,000
-Crimea: 230,000
-Italy: 787,000

Race/Ethnicity:
96% Caucasian (Greeks)
3% Arab (Turks)
1% Other

Economy: Strong

Military:
Army of Greece -
105,000 Infantry
-5000 Armed with repeating rifles
6000 Cavalry
600 Artillery Pieces
200 Greek Firethrowers

Constantinople Army -
110,000 Infantry
-6000 Armed with repeating rifles (Royal Guard of Constantinople)
6000 Cavalry
300 Artillery Pieces
500 Greek Firethrowers

Anatolian Garrison -
90,000 Infantry
-2000 with repeating rifles
3000 Cavalry
200 Artillery Pieces
200 Greek Firethrowers

Crimean Garrison -
2000 Infantry
300 Cavalry
20 Artillery Pieces

Italian Garrison -
7000 Infantry
800 Cavalry
40 Artillery Pieces

Cyprus Garrison -
8000 Infantry
500 Cavalry
35 Artillery Pieces


Navy:
Capital Ship: IBN Constantine (Quadruple Decker Ship of the Line, holds 175 Cannons)

-Constantinople Class (Ironclad, 50 Cannons)
--IBN Constantinople
--IBN Athens

-Sparta Class (Ship of the Line, 3 Decks, 125 Cannons)
--IBN Sparta
--IBN Delphi
--IBN Mycanea
--IBN Heraclea

-Zeus Class (Frigate, 30-50 Cannons)
--IBN Zeus
--IBN Ares
--IBN Cronus
--IBN Apollo
--IBN Poseidon
--IBN Uranus
Many others, named in honor of the old gods

WIP Still

History:
The Byzantine Empire never fell, and has baffled the world for hundreds of years by surviving even into the 1800s. It has changed from an Empire to a Kingdom, but that could easily change. Especially now. In the last 40 years, Byzantium has gone through massive changes. Nationalism has returned to the battered Kingdom. Constantinople remains one of the most beautiful and powerful cities in the world. Reforms under the recent Kings have made the land more hospitable to the common man. Already, it looks as if the Kingdom that shouldn't be there might just come back more powerful than ever.

Actually I'll take whatever The Holy Roman Empire had at it's height.

Approved.

Provincias Unidas del Río de la Plata

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Territory of the Provincias Unidas Marked In Yellow (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o205/Franarama/Dearthupdate1.png)


General:
Long Form: Provincias Unidas del Río de la Plata (United Provinces of the River Plate)
Short Form: Provincias Unidas (United Provinces)
Government Type: Federal Republic
President of the Republic: Domingo Faustino Sarmiento
Economic Ideology: Capitalist
Capital: Buenos Aires

History:
The "Provincias Unidas del Río de la Plata", United Provinces of the River Plate, in English, was originally formed when "nation-less" adventurers settled in the River Plate, forming the "Southern American Kingdom". The richest of the colonizers took over as King, and those original colonizers who were not killed, took positions of power in the government and military. The Kingdom attracted immigrants from Europe, disillusioned with the state of affairs in that continent, who fled to the Americas in order to start a new life. The King, however, was a ruthless dictator, and soon resistance started springing up from the farthest regions of the Kingdom, which precipitated in a large riot in the Capital soon after. This led to the creation of the Great Junta, which then spent a decade fighting against not only the royalists, but other small factions that appeared. Once the dust settled, the fledgling republic started to expand southwards and westwards, crossing the Andes and subjugating Indian tribes along the way. Their navy secured the coasts of the continent, and settlements were established not only on the southernmost tip of the landmass, Tierra del Fuego, but also, on the Antarctic peninsula. Large tracks of Patagonia, however, are still occupied by Indian tribes, of which some remain hostile to government authority.

The United Provinces see the last half of the century as their time to assert their power over the rest of South America, and possibly establish colonies in Africa and Asia. Hopes run high that the Republic shall rise to equal the power of the most glorious of the European powers, and these are not unfounded claims, as every day Buenos Aires looks more like a capital belonging to a rich European Empire, as every day the flag of the United Provinces is seen on more ships, in more ports, and in the southernmost reaches of the American continent. The Southern Sun is rising.

Population
Antarctica: 506
Argentina:
Brazil:
Chile:
Uruguay: 3,323,906

Economy:
The Economy relies heavily on the Agricultural sector, mainly on cattle-based exports. The Pampas breed the greatest cattle on earth, which are widely praised and make a great profit for the country. There is also a rather large mining sector in the Andes. Shipbuilding is developing, especially as Buenos Aires turns into an important trading port. This has also developed a small number of banks and trade business.

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Military:
Army:
Guardia Presidencial (Presidential Guard, Garrison of Buenos Aires) -
50,000 Infantry
-1000 Armed with repeating rifles
4000 Cavalry
200 Artillery Pieces

Rest WIP
Navy:

Flagship:
APU Buenos Aires (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Solferino%281861%29.jpg)- Double-Deck Broadside Ironclad Battleship - 80 guns

Ships of the Line:

Santiago Class - 9,210 tons - Heavy Broadside Ironclad Frigate

APU Santiago
APU Montevideo
APU Rosario

Paraná Class - 5,120 tonnes - Steam Battleship

APU Paraná
APU Río Negro
APU Bermejo
APU Colorado
APU Maipo
APU Maule
APU Valdivia

Antarctica Class - 4,120 tons - Broadside Ironclad Frigate

APU Antarctica
APU Esperanza
APU Orcadas
APU Coman
APU Drake



Other Ships:

x120 O 'Higgins class (http://www.torridge.gov.uk/media/images/t/4/hmspickle1_Widescreen_450x300.jpg) Sloops - 10 guns
x80 Rio Grande class Bring-Sloops - 14 guns

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I think it'll be difficult to explain this, but to the best I can I will

North Eastern United States, Virginia, Maryland, part of North Carolina (the good part), Ohio, New England, Delaware, Washingdon DC, South Ontario, South Quebec, Newfoundland, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and Gibraltar.

:D

Name will be the the the Federation of North Eastern States.

The Holy Roman Empire

General:
Long Form: The Holy Roman Empire of the Germans
Short Form: The Holy Roman Empire; German Empire
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Holy Roman Emperor: Barbarossa III
Economic Ideology: Mixture of Socialism and Capitalism
Capital: Brandenburg

History:
WIP


Population: 150,121,404
Germany: 82,314,900
Austria: 8,316,487
Netherlands: 16,570,613
Switzerland: 7,508,700
Belgium: 10,511,382
Northern Italy: 24,899,322

Economy:
Relies upon Agricultural Products as exports, most of them being Wheat, Corn, and Barley. These provide the Holy Roman Empire will enough food to feed most of it's people with some amount of comfort. There is also a large amount of light industry in the large cities. These manufacture goods which are then used across the empire. A smallish amount of Heavy Industries are around, but they are used Sparingly.

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Military:
Army:
WIP


Navy:
WIP

Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt (Just the area near the Suez), Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain

I know this claim is big, but Finland and most of the Russian area are open flat space...

Map (Iam Black) (http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd180/SexySammyC/deathnewishzc9.png)

Ill make a factbook once you tell me to reduce or if its ok.

Shakal: Rejected. Sorry. The claim is too much. Also, that map sucks.

Brittonia: WAY TOO MUCH.

Zukariaa;13029520']Brittonia: WAY TOO MUCH.

OK, just Tibet, that's it.

Ond check the front page of II, I made a post on Zukaarian polytheism

OK, just Tibet, that's it.

Ond check the front page of II, I made a post on Zukaarian polytheism

That's better. Add it to the current map. I'm not doing maps for people.

You want that now?

As soon as you can.

Zukariaa;13029544']That's better. Add it to the current map. I'm not doing maps for people.

You want that now?

I quit the other.

I will take Norway, Sweden, Finland.

I will get pop facts and make map edit after work tommorow time for sleep now.

Ewww boiled fish.

The Hibernian Colonial Empire


Long Form: The United Hibernian Colonial Empire
Short Form: The Hibernian Empire
Government Type: Parlimentary
Minister: Gracy O'Halloran
Economic Ideology: Capitalist
Capital: Dublin

Population: 32,732,285

-Hibernia (Ireland): 29,493,000

-Wales: 2,903,085

-Iceland: 296,000

-Rockland (Newfoundland): 28,000

-Drumberlan (Greenland): 12,200



Economy: Strong Industrial Base in Ireland & Wales. Massive resource extraction economy in Wales and Drumberlan. Large Agricultural base in Hibernia. Fishing and shipping construction in Hibernia, Rockland, Iceland, Drumberlan. Hibernia considers itself an economic powerhouse, and will continually strive to keep growing.

Military:
Hibernian Home Guard Army -
125,000 Infantry
9000 Cavalry
785 Artillery Pieces

Welsh Border Guard -
110,000 Infantry
5400 Cavalry
800 Artillery Pieces

Iceland Garrison -
10,000 Infantry
1000 Cavalry
490 Artillery Pieces

Rockland Garrison -
4000 Infantry
250 Cavalry
35 Artillery Pieces

Drumberland Garrison -
1500 Infantry
150 Cavalry
45 Artillery Pieces


1st Connacht Rifle Corp (Expeditionary)
80,000 Infantry
3000 Cavalry
400 Artillery Pieces

2nd Leinster Rifle Corp (Expeditionary)
80,000 Infantry
3000 Cavalry
400 Artillery Pieces

3rd Munster Rifle Corp (Expeditionary) - Devestated
35,372 Infantry
1081 Cavalry
274 Artillery Pieces

4th Ulster Rifle Corp (Expeditionary)
80,000 Infantry
3000 Cavalry
400 Artillery Pieces

Navy:
Flagship:
LÉ. Emerald (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Achilles_%281863%29) - 11,029 tons - Broadside Ironclad Frigate

Ships of the Line:
Emer Class - Broadside Ironclad Frigate
LÉ. Emer - 10,620 tons
LÉ. Aoife - 10,800 tons
LÉ. Orla - 10,784 tons
Cúchulainn Class - Central Battery Ironclad
LÉ. Cúchulainn - 6078 tons
LÉ. Brigid - 6064 tons
LÉ. Aisling - 6081 tons
LÉ. Grianne - 6092 tons
Morrígan Class - Broadside Ironclad
LÉ. Morrígan - 7,620 tons
LÉ. Rannoch - 7,842 tons
Eithne Class - Central Battery Ironclad
LÉ. Eithne - 8984 tons
LÉ. Ciara - 8924 tons
LÉ. Banba - 8932 tons
LÉ. Fola - 8981 tons
Róisin Class - Broadside Ironclad
LÉ. Róisin - 6532 tons
LÉ. Muirchu - 6498 tons
LÉ. Cliona - 6582 tons
LÉ. Maev - 6512 tons
Macha Class - 'Fast' Steam Battleships
LÉ. Macha - 5120 tons
LÉ. Deirdre - 5125 tons
LÉ. Setanta - 5114 tons
Niamh Class - 'Blockship' Ironclad (Extremely Slow; Heavily Armed & Armoured)
LÉ. Niamh - 9810 tons
LÉ. Andraste - 9528 tons
Arduinna Class - Central Battery Ironclad
LÉ. Arduinna - 6232 tons
LÉ. Belisama - 6314 tons
LÉ. Clota - 6302 tons
Damara Class - Broadside Ironclad
LÉ. Damara - 6702 tons
LÉ. Dea Matrona - 6710 tons
LÉ. Matres - 6693 tons
Nantosuelta Class - Broadside Ironclad
LÉ. Nantosuelta - 7128 tons
LÉ. Nemetona - 7132 tons
LÉ. Rosmerta - 7125 tons
LÉ. Ogmios - 7121 tons
LÉ. Senua - 7116 tons
LÉ. Sequanaa - 7143 tons
LÉ. Amaethon - 7151 tons
LÉ. Arawn - 7137 tons
LÉ. Gwydion - 7145 tons
Gwyn ap Nudd Class - Channelship Ironclad (Protects Shipping in the Irish Sea)
LÉ. Gwyn ap Nudd - 4887 tons
LÉ. Branwen - 4872 tons
LÉ. Ceridwen - 4902 tons
LÉ. Dwyn - 4892 tons

History:
To be rewriten.

The Union of America


General:
Long Form: The Union of America
Short Form: The Union
Government Type: Federal Constitutional Republic
President: Rutherford Tilden
Vice-President: George Hays
Economic Ideology: Capitalist
Capital: Chicago
Population: 63,160,000
-Indiana: 6,080,500
-Michigan: 9,938,400
-Illinois: 12,419,300
-Iowa: 2,926,300
-Wisconsin: 5,363,700
-Minnesota: 4,919,500
-Dakota: 1,387,000
-Wyoming: 493,800
-Montana: 902,200
-Idaho: 1,294,000
-Washington: 5,894,100
-Oregon: 3,421,400

Economy:Strong

Military:

Army:
Commanding General of the Union Army: General Ambrose Burnside

Army of the Plains-
Commander: General Philip Sheridan
128,024 Infantry
-4,800 Armed with repeating rifles
29,876 Calvary
480 Artillery Pieces

Army of the Midwest- 315,800
Commander: General Winfield Scott Hancock
284,220 Infantry
-7,000 Armed with repeating rifles
31,580 Calvary
600 Artillery Pieces

Army of the West- 158,900
Commander: General William Rosecrans
148,086 Infantry
-6500 Armed with repeating rifles
10,814 Calvary
490 Artillery Pieces

Navy:

Admiral of the Union Navy: Admiral Andrew Hull Foote

Great Lakes Fleet-
Commander: Commodore Andrew Hull Foote
2 Ironclads
4 Sloop-of-wars
2 Frigates
14 Gunboats

Ohio River Fleet
Commander: Commodore Eldon P. Wyman
10 Gunboats

Mississippi River Fleet-
Commander: Commodore Henry K. Thatcher
12 Gunboats

Pacific Fleet-
Commander: Commodore William Gwin
1 Gunboat
2 Sloop-of-wars
1 Frigate
7 Gunboats

@Skibereen: Accepted
@Canadstein It kind of seems like you've claimed too much, but it also looks like you're using 1860 populations rather than modern which leads me to believe you didn't thoroughly read the opening post. :\
@Arty: That population is WAY too high considering what you have..

Answered on IRC.

Answered on IRC.

Speaking of which, we're on #dearth

Zukariaa;13030978']
@Canadstein It kind of seems like you've claimed too much, but it also looks like you're using 1860 populations rather than modern which leads me to believe you didn't thoroughly read the opening post. :\


Acutally I haven't claimed that much. Just a bunch of states.

OOC: how do you have Sherman? I have Ohio and Sherman was born in Ohio, anwways. And landwise - I must say that is a large, large claim.

OOC: how do you have Sherman? I have Ohio and Sherman was born in Ohio, anwways. And landwise - I must say that is a large, large claim.

It was a placeholder. How about your own claim? Also it is really none of your business.

Considering it stretches from Illinois to Oregon, I'd say it's VERY large. That's a massive population, too, seing as the US has like 300,000,000 people.

The Kingdom of Greater Scandinavia

General:
Local Long Form: Kingdom of Greater Scandinavia
Short Form: Scandinavia
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy

Monarch: King Tryggve Olafsson,
Royal Consort: Geira Gyda(Addressed as Queen for International Matters)


Economic Ideology: Social Market Economy(Mixed)

Capital: Oslo

Popualtion: 19,145,960
-Norway 4,711,626
-Sweden 9,142,817
-Finland 5,291,517

Race Ethnicity:
Nordic(North Germanic)
Swede
Ethnic Finns
Sami
Scandinavian Romani


Languages:
Official-
Old Norse
Norwegian
Swedish
Danish
Finnish

Unofficial-
Sami
RUssian
German
French
English

Military: 287,189(1.5%)

Army: 100,000(187,000 Reserves)
Home Guard
70,000

Infantry Regiments of the Home Guard: 30,000

-Oslo Grand Infantry Regiment(4000)

-Helsinki Grand Infantry Regiment(4000)

-Stockholm Grand Infantry Regiment(4000)

-Dyflinn Infantry Regiment(2000)

-Arendal Infantry Regiment(2000)

Hamar Infantry Regiment(2000)

-Varangerfjorden Infantry Regiment(2000)

-Von Wrangel Infantry Regiment(2000)

-Jans Munk Infantry Regiment(2000)

-Sprengtporten Infantry Regiment(2000)

-Nordenskiöld Infantry Regiment(2000)

-Kuikka-Koponen Infantry(2000)

Artillery Regiments of the Home Guard: 15000/1500

Stone Fortress Artillery Regiment(1500/150)

Breathless Keep Artillery Regiment(1500/150)

Black Foot Artillery Regiment(1500/150)

Red Foot Artillery Regiment(1500/150)

White Cap Artillery Regiment(1500/150)

Stone Bridge Artillery Regiment(1500/150)

Serpent Artillery Regiment(1500/150)

Mist Artillery Regiment(1500/150)

Hammer Artillery Regiment(1500/150)

Anvil Artillery Regiment(1500/150)


Cavalry Regiments of the Home Guard: 25000

CUIRASSIERS: 7000

-Royal House Cuirassiers Regiment(3500)

-Ostman Cuirassiers Regiment(3500)



DRAGOONS: 12000

-Hakkapelites Dragoon Regiment(2000)

-Torsten Dragoon Regiment(2000)

-Bjarn Dragoon Regiment(2000)

-Eire Dragoon Regiment(2000)

-Raven Dragoon Regiment(2000)

-Eagle Dragoon Regiment(2000)


UHLANS: 6000
-Lightning Uhlan Regiment(1000)

-Mourning Uhlan Regiment(1000)

-Night Uhlan Regiment(1000)

-Thunder Uhlan Regiment(1000)

-Torrent Uhlan Regiment(1000)

-Flood Uhlan Regiment(1000)


Viking Corps
30,000

Infantry Regiments of the Viking Corps

Æsir Infantry Regiment(3000)

Vanir Infantry Regiment(3000)

Jotun Infantry Regiment(3000)



WIP








Navy: 187,000(100,000 Reserves)

So how many states would I have to cut out?

hope you dont mind if I join as a good ole Imperial japan (felt like being a semi canned naition)

for reference on the real world map i would own Japan, and Korea

General:
Long Form: Imperial Japan
Short Form: Japan
Government Type: Imperial Democracy
Prime Minister: Kojima Kondagawa
Emperor: Tokayo Hajime
Economic Ideology: Capitalist
Capital: Tokyo

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/ZAFT20/dearthdoomcn3.png
Population: 200,022,000

-Japan: 127,750,000
-Korea: 72,272,000

Economy: Strong economy centered around Agricultue and manufacturing

Military: -6,000,660

Army- 4,723,042

Type 31 75 mm Mountain Gun

Type 26 9 mm Pistol

Type 30 rifle

Type 47 Military Sword

Navy- 1,277,618

Ship:

Battleships/Iron clads - 14 ships
- Kōtetsu class ironclad ram warship (civil war era bought from confederate navy)

- Kanrin Maru class screw-driven steam warship

- Satsuna class screw sloop ( based off USS Brooklyn from 1858

Frigates - 8

Shakoku Class (based off the frigate USS St. Lawrence)

Gunboats - 10
-Phoenix Class gunboat (based off design of confederate gunship CSS Drewry)

History:

Isolated for centuries the Empire of Japan stopped its isolationist ways and began to moderize the country. Within years of that the military and the entire country were up to modern standards. The Imperial family then established a Japanese Parliment and announced elections. The parliment was designed to hear what the people wanted and one issue stood out, land. The empire needed new land to support its growing population, to do this they imperial navy and army were sent to korea to take it over. The conquest was swift and much land was taken untill the expansion was seen as enough in that location. The Imperial military was then sent south as they captured the islands south of the home islands stopping just before Taiwan. All then became quiet in the empire as they saw no more reason to expand for now, they had what they needed to support the people of the empire and future growth.

Although I was rather opposed to the idea at first, I feel the current participating members will serve to make quite an interesting scenario. As such, I formally present my claim:

Suid-Afrikaansche Republiek

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/NL_Onderscheidingsvlag_Staatssecr_Defensie.png

History: Seeking escape from the oppressive religious, social, and political conditions of the Holy Roman Empire, Jan van Riebeeck and a band of 90 Dutch and Flemish families set sail aboard Drommedaris, Reijger, and Goede Hoop bound for the Cape of Good Hope in 1652. Blown off course by a heavy storm, the group made landfall near present day Durban in the province of Natal. For the next several years, a rudimentary society was carved out of the area and soon began to thrive on account of the mild Mediterranean climate and the bountiful trade maintained with the indigenous Khoi people. Word of the colony's success and potential bounty eventually reached the ports of Europe, triggering a wave of Dutch and German immigrants.

The 18th century proved mostly tranquil, the population and boundaries of the new nation expanding at a steady pace. Wary of the bureaucratic traditions and central authoritarianism of the Old World, government remained de-centralized, its powers vested in local town assemblies. Conflict between settlers and the region's native inhabitants was rare. The 19th Century brought great change to the tiny coastal enclave. Successive waves of new immigrants trickled into the country, bringing with them the ideas and innovations of the west. In 1838, under the direction of Andries Hendrik Potgieter and Andries Pretorius, the Suid-Afrikaansche Republiek was formed, Potchefstroom its capital and Pretorius its first President.

Name:
Official: Suid-Afrikaansche Republiek
Conventional: SAR
Adjective: Afrikaner

Population: 42,376,597
Natal: 9,426,018
Oranje Vrijstaat: 2,706,776
Suid-Zambezien: 13,010,000
Transvaal: 17,233,803

Language(s): Dutch, German, Afrikaans

Religion: Dutch Reformed Church

Capital: Potchefstroom

Government: Presidential Republic
President: Marthinus Pretorius
State Secretary: Christian van Boeschoten
State Attorney: Willem Johannes Leyds

Legislature: Volksraad [Unicameral; 30 seats]

Economy: Primarily Agrarian with a small manufacturing and shipping base along the coast. The discovery of diamonds, gold, and other precious metals has given rise to a highly lucrative extraction industry within the interior, providing the once cash-strapped Treasury a viable base from which additional capital is attained. Railroads, an exclusively private venture, are few, with major routes extending north from Durban to the Vaal River. A significant portion of exports also consist of Sugar Cane from the Plantations of Natal, the SAR's largest collective agricultural institutions.

Armed Services: National Defense falls to the enforcement of local militia. Only during times of war is a permanent standing force organized by the national government. Organization, Armament, and Discipline of said militias widely varies from region to region with large-calibre rifles the primary weapon of choice (on account of the chaotic nature of the African savanna). Local units are known as Kommando.

Lachenburg and Spit Break, please update your populations to 2007 standards. It is merely the mood and technology of the era that corresponds to 1860, we decided to make the populations 2007 ones in order to make it have epicness. Also, please update the map found on the main page to include your claims. Make your borders out with white, then fill it in with a color that pertains to your nation, yet is not too similar to any other color already used. Please save it in PNG so we can use it. If you do this, you shall gladly be accepted.


And Canadstein, our Glorious Players Council and our Eternal Leader have decided that you shall be rejected from the RP, sorry.

@Zukaaria: Do I need to put my factbook here? Or can I put it somewhere else?

@Zukaaria: Do I need to put my factbook here? Or can I put it somewhere else?

Preferably here.

Zukariaa;13031356']Preferably here.

Z, you got a post on the polytheism thread, want me to bump it for you?

Z, you got a post on the polytheism thread, want me to bump it for you?

Sure, but don't do that anymore in this thread, please.

And Canadstein, our Glorious Players Council and our Eternal Leader have decided that you shall be rejected from the RP, sorry.

YES! Haha glorious.

Also shall is in the future, so I am going to assume not right now.

I would like the Queensland and New South Wales sections of Australia.

Lachenburg and Spit Break, please update your populations to 2007 standards. It is merely the mood and technology of the era that corresponds to 1860


Done and i got the map in my claim to, geez never thought japan could fit that many bloody people O.o any way i got to get on the military aspect, im going to use basic canned army stuff but the navy im going to create a few Ironclads (best canned japanese stuff never came till the late 1890's to about 1912). wont be to much just come smaller armoured corevettes, couple iron clads and stuff, nothing that would give me a uber advantage over any one else

Lachenburg and Spit Break, please update your populations to 2007 standards. It is merely the mood and technology of the era that corresponds to 1860, we decided to make the populations 2007 ones in order to make it have epicness. Also, please update the map found on the main page to include your claims. Make your borders out with white, then fill it in with a color that pertains to your nation, yet is not too similar to any other color already used. Please save it in PNG so we can use it. If you do this, you shall gladly be accepted.


And Canadstein, our Glorious Players Council and our Eternal Leader have decided that you shall be rejected from the RP, sorry.

Population updated. I'll have a map including my claims (which are essentially Transvaal, Orange Free State, Natal, and Zimbabwe, for those curious) sometime late tonight or tomorrow.

Please add those claims to this map (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o205/Franarama/Dearthupdate1.png), and don't re-size it. If you can't, and must resize for whatever reason, one of us can re-do it, but maybe your borders wont look just how you wanted them.

@Plethantra: Accepted. Normally a 1 poster wouldn't be accepted, but I've heard good things about you.

Zukariaa;13031497']@Plethantra: Accepted. Normally a 1 poster wouldn't be accepted, but I've heard good things about you.

How can you hear good things about a person who has 1 post?

How can you hear good things about a person who has 1 post?

He is the friend of a friend. Canadstein, would you please stop posting here? You've been rejected, you really have no reason to be posting, and it's just a disruption. Especially when you ask questions like that one.

Zukariaa;13031527']He is the friend of a friend. Canadstein, would you please stop posting here? You've been rejected, you really have no reason to be posting, and it's just a disruption. Especially when you ask questions like that one.

Where does it say that I can not post here?

Canadstein, now you're just being immature. Please stop.

so am I officially in now or are you waiting for my military and history?

Zukariaa;13031568']Canadstein, now you're just being immature. Please stop.

I am?

I am?

Seriously. Stop. Now.

Whaddya want us to do, flame you?

Seriously. Stop. Now.

Whaddya want us to do, flame you?

Go ahead.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5172/dearthupdate2fn2.png

Updated the map. I'll get working on the factbook.

first one to tell the mods on canadstein gets a cookie

Canada, you're pissing us off.

Canada, you're pissing us off.

thats a understatment

Canada, you're pissing us off.

Whose Canada?

Can I take California, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho and Arizona?

I don't have any posts on this account, but I'm not a noob. I forgot to log into my Voxio account for too long and it was deleted. Franberry may remember me from those old Age of Imperialism RPs.

I'm sorry for my posts last night and disrupting the flow of this thread.. I was just a little angry and felt like pissing off some people. Is there anyway I can get into this rp?

Hey, I'd quite like to join this earth with the blue coloured nations of this attached map as my claims (the map doesn't work for some reason, will add later). It includes the reminder of Italy (and a bit of Southern France), Sicily, the Suez and Sinai. Also, I've added a bit of Tunisia and Sardinia and Corsica if you'll let me have them, and I wouldn't object to Singapore. I'll be like the Papal States, so watch out for a Holy Crusade.

Honako, we will accept you if you accept the following reduced claim:
The rest of Italy + Southern French Coast + Sardina and Corsica.

We're not having colonies at the start of the game, if you want Tunesia, Suez and the Sinai, you'll probably have to fight for it.

Lionistzion, I remember Voxio.

Canadstein, wait for Zuk, but its probably going to be No.

so am I officially in now or are you waiting for my military and history?

Yes you are in, you should get working on your factbook so you can properly start RPing.

Canadstein, I've said no. No means no. Please stop asking.

Yes you are in, you should get working on your factbook so you can properly start RPing.

I got basic equipment up (for military), rest should follow later tonight

The Federation of North Eastern States
Red on the map

History

The Federation of North Eastern States started as the uniting of the British colonies of New York, Eastern New Jersey, Western New Jersey, and the New England states as the Dominion of New England in 1686. After proclaiming independence from the Crown, the New Englanders raised arms and struck the British colonian strongholds of York, British Canada and burned down the city of Philedelphia in 1688. In 1891, in the city of Yalta in the Byzantine Empire, the Treaty of Yalta was signed between the British and the New English - the British had recognized the sovereignity of the Federation of North Eastern States and ceded land from North Carolina to British Canadian holdings.

Population:

tba

Military:

tba

This looks like fun.;) I am currently already doing a 1860 so why not do another one. Can I claim this much? If not please change my claim. I have claimed a trading post in SA, the rest of the UK, part of Norway,Northern France,South India,Sri Lanka and finally Denmark. I wish to be called the People's Kingdom of Mussleburgh if thats OK. Here is the map.




http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3869/dearthupdate2fn2qo2.png

Might I have permission to join considering I technically am a newb. I do try and I have RP'd before. I am also willing to put work in. I am on at least an hour a day most of the time more. I understand godmodding and the like as well as realistic logistics and military tactics. I submit my Wiki Page (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Fordock) as evidence of my non-noobishness . I await your answer.

Mussleburgh, I'm afraid I'll have to decline.

Fordock, approved.

Also, I'm putting up a new notice that states,"NO COLONIES FROM THE START". You'll have to earn colonies, not start out with them.

My claims then if they are acceptable are Lower Egypt (Historically Speaking), the Sinai Peninsula, and a strip of Saudi-Arabia that borders the red Sea.

My claims then if they are acceptable are Lower Egypt (Historically Speaking), the Sinai Peninsula, and a strip of Saudi-Arabia that borders the red Sea.
Excellent, they will be mapped in the next update.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9697/dearthupdate3fn2hk5.th.png (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dearthupdate3fn2hk5.png)
My perspective claims. If accepted I'll begin work upon my fact book.

This is hilarious. Did you notice in the post above I just made myself a map? They also follow almost the exact same guidelines. Thank you. You can pick which one to keep.

That's fine Fordock. Normally I wouldn't do maps for people, but I have nothing to do so I did it. If this isn't what you'd like, you can change it yourself. :P

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Humhum/Stuffen/moardearth2.png

Here: http://www.maj.com/gallery/Humhum/Stuffen/moardearth3.png
I added yours into the current map. :P

So, could somebody tell me if I'm in or not?

Madagascar and Mozambique. For my Claim that is...

Btw with all the factbooks in the same thread how do we go about the diplomacy? :confused:

Tribenkia, I am sorry but we must reject your claim.

Lionistzion, you'll have to wait for Zukariaa to come online.

Lionistzion, approved.

My Claim (http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9617/dearthpe9.jpg)

Here you go.

Lachenburg, please save in PNG and use single pixel borders. Yours are too thick.

Also, use the current map. That one is outdated.

Fact Book for the The Monarchy of
The Peoples of the Nile River

Ancient History- The Nile river was the start of one of the greatest civilizations in the world and people have always liver there. However the nation of Egypt was losing power. It gradually grew weaker and weaker until it fell to first the Greeks and then the Romans. It was when the Romans Occupied it that People living in upper Egypt realized that something must be done to resist the Roman rule. They were sufficiently impressed with the Roman's ways of doing things and knew that the Romans would be in Egypt for awhile. And so the only way to stand up against them would be to create a culture so strong it could not be crushed by the Romans. From this an artificial culture was created. It combined Judaism, Paganism, Greek culture and Ancient Egyptian culture to create a religion and a way of life. This new path was called "The Way of The Nile". With this in mind they formed the group The Peoples of the Nile River. TPNR began to resist the Romans and eventually when things turned sour elsewhere in their empire TPNR was there to pick up the pieces. It was from here they formed the beginnings of the Monarchy. With this in mind TPNR gradually evolved a Monarchy and began to exist as a separate state in the year 0 AF.

Medieval History- TPNR was directly involved in the crusades being targeted by both sides. Eventfully it offered the Muslims of the region safe passage and when they won TPNR was greatly relived. It was at this time due to contributions to the Muslim Military effort TPNR received the Sinai Peninsula which has long been accepted as part of their nation. After this the Ottoman empire began to become up and coming. TPNR acquired guns from them and used these to help out in a campaign against natives in the Arabic Peninsula where they acquired a strip of land. This land is also now considered part of the state.

Renaissance History- After this TPNR suffered a large amount of aggression from the Ottoman Empire continually fighting them off losing their hold on Cyprus and Judeica. However TPNR was eventually able to hold the Ottomans off due to its modernization of its army with gunpowder arms. It pioneered a technique in which they fired a volley at long range with the first rank to make the enemy think they had fired. Then the first Rank would affix a bayonet and prepare to fight. When the enemy responded and charge The 2cd and 3rd ranks fired at close range and the first rank charged into the chaos. This was quite successful.

Modern History- TPNR is a curious nation. It is both a new nation and an old nation. It is currently unsure about Judica thinking of conquering it. The government that seems to have taken if over is weak. TPRN still fight for the Way of the Nile River setting them apart and giving them a strong cause to rally to.

Military- TPNR's military is organized into 2 branches. Army and Navy. The army is considered the weaker of the 2 but only slightly. TPNR were one of the early adopters of the rifle and have good tactics with them valuing accurate fire. The navy specializes in amphibious landings and Shore Bombardment.

Current Aims- TPNR has stated that they would like to build a canal through the Sinai Peninsula near where Upper Egypt is to gain access to the Mediterranean.

Capital- The capital of the Nation is Alexandria.

I've decided I'd quite like to revise my claim, if I can. I'm interested in a Norman-esque Empire, covering Northern France (including Paris), Southern England (including London), Denmark and Rome. I have an ideal version, where the land size is about the size of Granates claim. It'll be mostly controlled from Rome (by religious and political figures), which is why I want that city. If you decide Denmark is classed as a colony because it is not connected, even though I have no such plan to run it like that, I'd like you to replace the land I lose there by giving me more land in East and West France, if you could.

Map (Ideal) and Map (Lesser), if you decide the former controls too much of France for whatever reason.

Again, the maps don't work. Argh! Basically, the ideal one controls most of France (minus the land nearer the Modern Day border of Spain), the South-East of England, all of Denmark and Rome. The France and English lands (the channel) are most important to me.

Sorry Honako, someone claimed a large portion of that over IRC before you. They made a map, too.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/Spizania/dearth-Spiz-on.png

He has yet to post, though.


Also, Spit Break, I noticed that you have a lot of ships in your navy that are far too advanced. You definitely need to reduce that.

http://www.maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1322023

How does this look?

Can I claim, say Pacific Northwestern USA (Washington, Oregon, N. Cali) as well as Victoria and southern parts of BC? I've yet to hack together a factbook, but would that be acceptable?

I keep trying to post a map, but for some reason my posts wont show up.

remember to use a image hosting site, oh and I finished my fact book back on page two

Can I claim, say Pacific Northwestern USA (Washington, Oregon, N. Cali) as well as Victoria and southern parts of BC? I've yet to hack together a factbook, but would that be acceptable?

Lionistzion already claimed California, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho and Arizona.

You might either want to revise your claim, or go to some other part of the world. Asia is wide open and something more there would be nifty, same goes for Central and South America, and the Middle East/India area.

Whatever you pick you'll be accepted Gurg.

Battleships/Iron clads - 14 ships
- Fuso Class Ironclad Warship
- Hiryu Class Ironclad Warship

Protected Cruisers - 24
- Asuka class protected Cruiser
- Mikasa class protected cruiser
- Okanawa class Protected cruiser

Armored cruisers - 19
- Kusanagi class Armoured cruiser
- Asuma class Armoured cruiser

Gunboats - 36
-Maya Class gunboat


All these ships are too advanced, especially if you're using historical names. Designations like "Protected/Armored Cruiser" imply something a lot closer to WWI than to 1860. Right now, your most advanced ships should be simple Ironclads, but if you want to have a lot of Ironclads take frigates and put metal sheets on the side. You'll notice that my navy only has 9 Ironclads, but many wooden sloops. Artitsa has a lot, but thats because his country is very focused on their navy, and he dosen't have designs as advanced at the ones here and not on such numbers. Jared has 50 ironclads, but they're Civil-war era monitors, not exactly the best for complete sea domination.

I formally pledge my claims to the following:

BRITISH REGIONS
The Remainder of England
The Remainder of Scotland
Channel Isles

FRANCE REGIONS

Nord-Pas-De-Calais
Somme
Haute-Normandie
Basse-Normandie
Bretagne
Pays De La Loire
Poitou-Charentes
Deux-Sevres
Charente-Maritime

SPAIN REGIONS

Galicia
Asturias


Official Name: The United Kingdom of Britain and Leon
National Anthem: Land of Hope and Glory
Head of State: Queen Elizabeth II
Prime Minister: Albert James Harris
Government Type: Westminster Parliamentary Democracy
Population: 76,758,500
Military: 760,000 Volunteers (breakdown later)

I think thats the formalities done.

Spiz you are accepted!

*tips hat*

I'm sorry, I've gotta quit this one

How about Western Washington (I want to make Seattle my capital, since I feckin' live there) and... BC and Alberta?

I don't want a huge nation, I'm already involved in AMW and in an FT brawl with Menelmacar, so I'm seriously pretty strapped for time/RP energy.

heh heh heh my bad :D let me go fix that


EDIT: Ok fixed, took some stuff from the USN from that era and renamed it

remember to use a image hosting site, oh and I finished my fact book back on page two
lol, the problem is that my post doesn' show up at all.

DUH, not sure why I didn't think of this before...I just edited it into my post.

http://www.maj.com/gallery/zekk55/Weapons/map.png

How about Western Washington (I want to make Seattle my capital, since I feckin' live there) and... BC and Alberta?

You shall be my arch nemesis!

heh heh heh my bad :D let me go fix that


EDIT: Ok fixed, took some stuff from the USN from that era and renamed it

But...you're not a nation that would have stuff from the USN.

I make a good arch-nemesis *plots*.

I make a good arch-nemesis *plots*.

Good *plots back*

Okay, I've got a little of my factbook done, I should have enough to be worth posting by tomorrow night.

Okay, well, I've completely changed my claim once more. I desire the Chinese provinces of Fujian, Guangdon, Zhejiang and Guangxi, including the Hainan Island and Hong Kong and Macau, plus Taiwan. In terms of land area this claim actually isn't massive, but in population it's large, so it follows your rules. Now, that is the final claim I desire.

Accepted.

I want to say thank you to ever added me to the map.
Is that little piece of Africa mine? Because, its the exact same color.

Working on Military equipment now...

Map Update (http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9740/dearthvk3.png)

But...you're not a nation that would have stuff from the USN.

What makes you say that? people buy ships from other nations all the time, infact Japaneses first Ironclad was bought from the CSS, heck most of there ships were built out of the country in the nertherlands and france in that era.

What makes you say that? people buy ships from other nations all the time, infact Japaneses first Ironclad was bought from the CSS, heck most of there ships were built out of the country in the nertherlands and france in that era.
The first Japanese Ironclad was the last Confederate Ironclad, which was captured by the Union forces, and sold to Japan, in 1869, 9 years after the beginning of this RP. And most of the ships built at that time were built by the British, mostly for the smaller republics of Latin America. Major powers usually built their own ships.

And Tem, that identically-colored area is not yours, it shall have to be fixed in the next update.

Lachenburg, thanks for putting your nation on the map.

The Parliamentary Republic of Cascadia

Long Form: The Parliamentary Republic of Cascadia
Short Form: The Parliamentary Republic, Cascadia
Abbreviation: The PRC (zomg)
Government Type: Westminster Parliamentary Republic
Prime Minister: Sir Christopher Blake
Economic Model: Capitalist
Capital: Seattle

History

The Parliamentary Republic of Cascadia was founded in the early 19th century by English and Welsh refugees fleeing conquest by the Hibernian Empire. The first settlers arrived somewhat indirectly, traveling overland as traders and vagabonds. They eventually settled in Indian lands after signing a treaty with Chief Sealth, leader of a local tribe. His name, transliterated into English, gave the eventual capital of the Parliamentary Republic its name. More displaced persons from the British Isles and elsewhere found themselves destined for Cascadia, seeking a new beginning far from the wars of Europe.

Encounters with other settlers to the immediate south led to a certain amount of conflict, and the Parliamentary Republic finds itself gearing for possible war...

Armed Forces
Total manpower: 102,469
Navy: 35,326
Army: 67,143

Navy: Order of Battle

Forced to construct its entire navy from scratch in the last few years, the Parliamentary Republic of Cascadia's fleet is small, but technologically advanced. It is designed primarily for coastal defence, but new ships of the line will give it limited blue-water effect.

Flagship: PCS Revenge, ironclad broadside ship of the line, 74 guns

Peacemaker class Riverine Monitor
PCS Peacemaker
PCS Judicator
PCS Inquisitor
PCS Defender

Arbiter class Ironclad Centerline Ship of the Line
PCS Arbiter (building)
PCS Prompter (building)
PCS Devastator (gathering materials)

Wrath class Ironclad Broadside Frigate (38 guns)
PCS Wrath
PCS Fury
PCS Hatred

Other ships:
PCS Moses (Transport)
PCS Nymph Courier Sloop (4 guns)
PCS Vixen Ironclad Broadside Cutter (12 guns)
PCS Minx Ironclad Broadside Frigate (22 guns)
PCS Valiant Ironclad Broadside Frigate (18 guns)

Army: Order of Battle

In a wild land, the settlers of early Cascadia formed bands of militiamen to defend against hostile Indian raids and put down unrest. Acting in some cases as a heavily armed police force, the Cascadian Army gained valuable field experience early in its career dealing with miner's strikes, secession movements and Indian attacks. In the years since, the Army has grown and adopted new weapons. Armed today with the Vancouver Rifle, 1855 pattern (so named for its place of manufacture), as well as a wide array of field guns, the Cascadian Army is well equipped as a modern fighting force.

WIP

The first Japanese Ironclad was the last Confederate Ironclad, which was captured by the Union forces, and sold to Japan, in 1869, 9 years after the beginning of this RP. And most of the ships built at that time were built by the British, mostly for the smaller republics of Latin America. Major powers usually built their own ships.


True enough but if i do recall Japans first domestivly built warship was in 1865, untill that time all there ships came from europe, oh and just because that ship was bought in 1869 doesn't mean i can't have similar ships earlier by buying them from the brits, the french and other shipyards untill i can get my own shipyards up and running.

True enough but if i do recall Japans first domestivly built warship was in 1865, untill that time all there ships came from europe, oh and just because that ship was bought in 1869 doesn't mean i can't have similar ships earlier by buying them from the brits, the french and other shipyards untill i can get my own shipyards up and running.

Then you'd need to, of course, buy them from Artitsa/Spizania.

now i need to, yes, but not pay for what i already have :P

Assuming that I'm in as per Fran's rather flattering statement, I'm going to be gone for the next three days on a camping trip. So yeah.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4677/dearthvk3fz5.png

Claims - Northwestern Russia [West of the Urals], The Baltic States, Kalinengrad, and most of Belorussia

Fact Book -

General:
Long Form: The Empire of Russia
Short Form: Rus, Imperial Rus, Imperial Russia
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Monarch: Emperor Alexei
Economic Ideology: Free Market with Socialist Implementations
Capital: St. Petersburg

Population: N/A

Race/Ethnicity: N/A

Economy: Moderate-Strong

It's, of course, a work in progress.

EDIT: Fixed most of my claim post.

Ah you unholy **** Fucker...

[Spizania, I kid...I'm not me old self, I just still carry around a crudementary humor though :P]

Alright, since Shetland and Scotland are claimed...

...

Shit, I'm not quite sure what else I'd claim then. Heh..hmm

EDIT - I hope the swearing wasn't over the top, I know how some of us can be a bit feint of heart when it comes to what rolls off the tongue ;).

Anyways, personal message to Spiz - Did you quit EII or something? Last time I saw, Lay was against multi-earthing.

noHow i need to, yes, but not pay for what i already have :P

How do you have what you already have?

Ah you unholy **** Fucker...

[Spizania, I kid...I'm not me old self, I just still carry around a crudementary humor though :P]

Alright, since Shetland and Scotland are claimed...

...

Shit, I'm not quite sure what else I'd claim then. Heh..hmm

EDIT - I hope the swearing wasn't over the top, I know how some of us can be a bit feint of heart when it comes to what rolls off the tongue ;).

Anyways, personal message to Spiz - Did you quit EII or something? Last time I saw, Lay was against multi-earthing.

I wouldnt classify this as your standard Earth.... but regardless, i can always use New Tipperary to post for this...... meh

I wouldnt classify this as your standard Earth.... but regardless, i can always use New Tipperary to post for this...... meh

meh, I guess so :P

But seriously...you...ass...messing up my claim...:(

Pyschotika, I like the cut of your jib, if I may say so.

Denmark is in quite a tricky position, and if you're willing to relocate, European Russia is not as surrounded by enemies as Denmark. Spain is in a nifty position too. And if you don't mind leaving the European continent, Central America, Northen South America, and the Middle East are in need of nations.

Of course, if you want to keep Denmark, go ahead.

Pyschotika, I like the cut of your jib, if I may say so.

Denmark is in quite a tricky position, and if you're willing to relocate, European Russia is not as surrounded by enemies as Denmark. Spain is in a nifty position too. And if you don't mind leaving the European continent, Central America, Northen South America, and the Middle East are in need of nations.

Of course, if you want to keep Denmark, go ahead.

I appreciate the advice, however I'm not one to back down from a 'tricky' position ;).

Anyways, I wouldn't mind relocating to Euro-Rus because honestly I was in love with the Danish idea until Scotty decided to run away from me :(..

Alright, I suppose I'll claim Russia [I'll just edit my claim post to include what I want]..I'm sure I could still get into a sticky-tricky mess as Russia anyways...

Roar...

If you don't mind, claim Russia up to the Ural area. You can colonize the rest after, we just dont want claims that are tooo big.

If you don't mind, claim Russia up to the Ural area. You can colonize the rest after, we just dont want claims that are tooo big.

Yea, np..actually my claim is quite small, it includes the Baltic states for the most part [I don't think I included Konigsburg], but...hmm...I'll make two maps, and you tell me which one is more acceptable.

Actually, never mind.. This shouldn't be too large, oh and includes Kalinengrad/Konigsburg now.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4677/dearthvk3fz5.png

Greater Antilles( Cuba, Jamaica, Hispaniola and Puerto Rico) , plz

Actually, never mind.. This shouldn't be too large, oh and includes Kalinengrad/Konigsburg now.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4677/dearthvk3fz5.png

Though, if I were to make a larger claim..

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8128/dearthvk3qu2.png

That really changes the balance of things. I'm predicting a war between Scandinavia and the Urals.

Good thing I'm an Imperialist Ass Whipe.

Hey! I do make the perfect Russia! [Oh and Japan as well, but too bad...]

This one is just fine, but would you mind adding it to the map which already has Spiz's claim on it?

Sure, just I couldn't find it again because I..admittedly..was lazy..

Anyways, yea I'll do that.

Actually, never mind.. This shouldn't be too large, oh and includes Kalinengrad/Konigsburg now.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4677/dearthvk3fz5.png

This one is just fine, but would you mind adding it to the map which already has Spiz's claim on it?

Okay, well, I've completely changed my claim once more. I desire the Chinese provinces of Fujian, Guangdon, Zhejiang and Guangxi, including the Hainan Island and Hong Kong and Macau, plus Taiwan. In terms of land area this claim actually isn't massive, but in population it's large, so it follows your rules. Now, that is the final claim I desire.

Cheers for the acceptance. Although I shouldn't push it, I may as well ask, as China is wide open, if you decide that allowing adding any of the surrounding provinces of Anhi, Shanghai, Jiangsu and Jiangxi that's great, but I'll accept whatever descision you have made.

I'll get working on a brief description of my claim's political system/history/military etc. unless you grant me any more requests for land.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8743/dearthib9.png

Here's my claims

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8453/roardearthqn5.png

There you go...

How do you have what you already have?

I would think you would of figured that out, I bought them in the years before this RP starts, most of this stuff was designed in the early 1850's

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m78/kadangadooo/africa.jpg

(I'm only going to post the general stats for now, population can wait 'till I know my lands are approved.)

General:
Long Form: The Imperial Songhai Republic
Short Form: The Imperium
Government Type: Imperium

Economic Ideology: Physiocratic
Capital: Lagos

Economy: Extremely Stong in Nigeria, especially the Southern end of it, but the Northern territories are a bit underdeveloped aside from Timbuktou and Bamako on the Northern Fringes

you already got rejected once if your rejected again will you get lost?

you already got rejected once if your rejected again will you get lost?

What the hell are you talking about. This is my first claiming here. You must be thinking of Canadstein.

I would think you would of figured that out, I bought them in the years before this RP starts, most of this stuff was designed in the early 1850's

THE QUESTION IS THAT I HAVE BEEN STRESSING

Who sold them to you? I can claim I have Nimitzes as aliens sold them to me, but it doesn't work that way.

You can't just go "lol I have french ironclads!!1!" when whoever controls France doesn't agree to selling it.

What the hell are you talking about. This is my first claiming here. You must be thinking of Canadstein.

sorrry my bad, names when they look similer tend to look the same to me, my apologies

THE QUESTION IS THAT I HAVE BEEN STRESSING

Who sold them to you? I can claim I have Nimitzes as aliens sold them to me, but it doesn't work that way.

You can't just go "lol I have french ironclads!!1!" when whoever controls France doesn't agree to selling it.

hello french built ship, obiously i bought them off the french, if there from the netherlends, then i bought them from the netherlands, if there british i got them from a british company, I DO NOT HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM OTHER NATIONS TO USE SHIPS I BOUGHT FROM THEM BEFORE 1860!!

Spit Break, Jared, I think you guys better bring Zuks attention to this problem as you seem to have hit a rather undefined spot on the rules.

Regnum Hierosolimitanum (Kingdom of Jerusalem)

http://individual.utoronto.ca/hayes/survey2/JerusalemCross.gif

General:
Long Form: Regnum Hierosolimitanum (Eng:Kingdom of Jerusalem)
Short Form: Jerusalem
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Monarch: Bohemund VIII
Economic Ideology: Feudalism
Capital: Jerusalem (no shit)

Population: 7 million

Race/Ethnicity:
48% Frankish
21% Italian
11% Greek
20% Arab Palestinian (Christianized)

Economy: Strong

Military:

ORDO MILITVM TEMPLVM SOMOLMONIS (Order of the Knights Templar):

http://www.forthvalleypriory.wanadoo.co.uk/templar%20cross.gif

TBA

ORDO HOSPITALIS (Order of the Knights Hospitaller):

http://www.osjmonks.com/cross11.jpg

TBA

Army of Jerusalem:

TBA

Navy:

TBA

History:
Salah Al-Din was unable to retake Jerusalem during his Jihad in 1187: the Crusaders, rather than blundering into the disasterous Horns of Hattin, had instead chosen to fight Salah Al-Din on their own terms. He was decisively defeated by a massive combined force of Templars, Hospitallers, and troops loyal to the King of Jerusalem. By chance Salah Al-Din was slain in battle by the Crusaders, leading to the subsequent collapse of of Salah Al-Din's empire, returning the caliphates to their previous state of consant in-fighting. This allowed for the crusader kingdom to flourish; while the other kingdoms, such as Antioch, were eventually taken by the Muslims, Jerusalem remained a viable power in the region, even entering into an open alliance with the Mongols at one point.

Because the Levant was initially spared by the Black Plague, feudalism remains a viable option to the ruling Crusader lords due to the available manpower. In addition, Jerusalem's armies continue to be supported by the powerful Hospitaller and Templar orders (the Templars were never disbanded, having never lost favor with the Papacy due to their triumph in the Third Crusade), who make up a full third of Jerusalem's army. The current grandmasters of the Templar and Hospitaller Orders also happen to be the brother and first cousin of the King (respectively). Politics are very much the same as they have always been: the serfs have yet to be liberated, and the feudal lords continue to rule over the peasantry. However, the government is now significantly more centralized, with the lords being closely watched over by the king and acting more as royal governors of their domains than anything; Jerusalem also maintains a professional standing army loyal to the king, which, along side the Templar and Hospitaller armies, is among the most experienced in the world, having dealt with constant Muslim incursions.

hello french built ship, obiously i bought them off the french, if there from the netherlends, then i bought them from the netherlands, if there british i got them from a british company, I DO NOT HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM OTHER NATIONS TO USE SHIPS I BOUGHT FROM THEM BEFORE 1860!!

I have to disagree. If the person who controls Britain or France wants to say,"No, I didn't sell those to you," they have that right. And seeing as there is no France I think the safest bet is to just have your nation build it's ships as a knock off of other nation's ships.

I have an idea. Maybe there are 10 special techs or so and each nation gets to pick one and from then on has to go on their own ingenuity.

ok then lets say they were captured during the korea invasion, and also domesticly built based off the blue prints?

as for the 10 techs, wat would they be?

I have an idea. Maybe there are 10 special techs or so and each nation gets to pick one and from then on has to go on their own ingenuity.

I'd rather not.


Spit Break, why would Korea have ironclads?

Cheers for the acceptance. Although I shouldn't push it, I may as well ask, as China is wide open, if you decide that allowing adding any of the surrounding provinces of Anhi, Shanghai, Jiangsu and Jiangxi that's great, but I'll accept whatever descision you have made.

I'll get working on a brief description of my claim's political system/history/military etc. unless you grant me any more requests for land.
No, stick with what you have.

And don't get wild with the tech. Asia is supposed to be LULZ COLONIES, so your advantage is having the home ground and hordes of people, the tech advantage goes to the white folk.

Zukariaa;13041861']I'd rather not.


Spit Break, why would Korea have ironclads?

Defend it self from my navy when i invaded? or maybe they were incomplete ironclads in dry dock that I simply finished

Ironclads have been around for, what, a year? Two? I highly, massively, giantly, bigly, largely, verily doubt that you conquered Korea in the last 2 years, and if you did, they most likely didn't have enough money to buy ironclads in the first place.

Hey, I'd like to get in on this. There's a map of my claim attached; I'm the olive-colored fella in the Mediterranean. It covers Italy, Tunisia, part of Libya, Malta, Corsica, Sardinia, and the Balearic Islands. I'd be RPing as a kind of Italian confederacy with a hegemony over the eastern Mediterranean.

Map here. (http://www.maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1329107)

Is my claim accepted?

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7422/dearthob6.png

Here's my claim using the updated map

Well, the updated map is actually the map one of the guys asked me to do..

Mine has a free form border..it's a page or so back, but it should be on the first post sooner or later...

Anyways -

I assumed I was accepted when he said "Yea, that's acceptable.."

The Commonwealth of Carribean States

Formal Name:The Commonwealth of Carribean States
Formal Name(French):Le Commonwealth des Etats de Carribean
Formal Name(Spanish):La Commonwealth de Los Estados de Carribean

Short Form: Carribean States
Short Form(French): Etats de Carribean
Short Form(Spanish): Estados de Carribean

Government/General
Captial: Havana
Government: Federal Republic(formal), Confederation
Motto: "Out of many, one people"
President: Darell Berkley
Chancellor: Reynard Champagne
Economic Policy: Captialism(mixed economy)
Popluation: 35,735,080
Official Languages: English, Spanish, and French

Military
Each member state has it's own defense force which Federal Military draws from in times of war. The standing Federal Military is made of 1% of popluation in peace and a 7.5% in wartime conscription.

Branches: Federal Army, Federal Navy, and Federal Guard(reserves from member states)


Economy: Good

No, stick with what you have.

And don't get wild with the tech. Asia is supposed to be LULZ COLONIES, so your advantage is having the home ground and hordes of people, the tech advantage goes to the white folk.

I have no plans to go wild on the tech. At first I wanted the Norman Empire type nation (if that guy hasn't claimed that yet I'm still open to take it), but now I think I'll have a quieter nation ruled by a small Chinese dictator. However, I will try and modernize myself, so could I say that the major cities such as Hong Kong were industrialized?

http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roardearthqn5qt0.png

Hey, I'd like to get in on this. There's a map of my claim attached; I'm the olive-colored fella in the Mediterranean. It covers Italy, Tunisia, part of Libya, Malta, Corsica, Sardinia, and the Balearic Islands. I'd be RPing as a kind of Italian confederacy with a hegemony over the eastern Mediterranean.

Map here. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u308/TataliaLW/Dearth.jpg)
Claim approved, fix map like told on IRC.

Candistan, wait for Zuk please.

Canadstein, please stop clogging this thread, otherwise we shall ask a mod to please remove all your messages from here.

Zukariaa;13041930']Ironclads have been around for, what, a year? Two? I highly, massively, giantly, bigly, largely, verily doubt that you conquered Korea in the last 2 years, and if you did, they most likely didn't have enough money to buy ironclads in the first place.

Then im going to stick with domesticly built with say 60% of my fleet in dry dock or something like that

FACTBOOK

The Italian Confederacy

History: The Italian Confederacy was founded as a counter to France after Venice, Genoa, and Milan were consumed in the Italian Wars and annexed. Florence headed the coalition, backed by the Papal States; Sicily and Naples later joined after breaking free from Hapsburg domination. The Italian Confederacy, bound by the Treaty of Siena and led by Florence, maintained its strength even when the Holy Roman Empire conquered northern Italy, and expanded across the eastern Mediterranean; Sardinia fell in 1556, Corsica in 1557, the Balearic Islands in 1560, Tunisia in 1612, and Libya in 1630. The Confederacy maintains the government structure it had during the Italian Wars, and many ancient families (Borgias, Medici) endure to this day.

Formal Name: (Italian) Grande Lega di Repubblica di Firenze
Formal Name: (English) Great Confederacy of the Republic of Florence
Informal Name: (Italian) Lega di Italia
Informal Name: (English) Italian Confederacy
Government Type: Republic
Head of Government/State: Suo Excellenzo Il Duce, Lorenzo de Medici VII
Economic Ideology: Very Capitalist
Capital: Firenze

Population: 53.7 million
-Italy: 36.5 million
-Tunisia: 10.1 million
-Sardinia: 1.7 million
-Corsica: .3 million
-Malta: .4 million
-Balearic Islands: 1 million
-Libya: about 3.7 million

Provinces:
-Firenze (Florence)
-Ferrara (Ferrara)
-Siena (Siena)
-Napoli (Naples)
-Lazio (former Papal States)
-Apulia (southeast Italy)
-Sicilia (Sicily)
-Corsica (Corsica)
-Sardinia (Sardinia)
-Palma (Balearic Islands)
-Libia Orientale (eastern Libya)
-Libia Ovest (western Libya)
-Tunizia (Tunisia)
-Malta (Malta)

Economy: Much of southern Italy and Sicily is agrarian; however, industrial regions exist in Ferrara, Firenze, Siena, and Lazio, and rail lines run through each province. Markets for Italian wine are plentiful all over the world, of course; other luxury items, such as food and clothing, are also in high demand. The Confederacy was able to industrialize fairly thoroughly during the Industrial Revolution, and there is a firm factory base in central Italy. Financially, the Confederacy is very secure, as its grip on the eastern Mediterranean allows it to tax a vast sea of wealth.

Race:
-71% Italian
-19% North African
-10% Other

Religion: Catholic

Military
Army:
-Army of Firenze
100,000 infantry (8,000 with repeating rifles)
6,000 cavalry
500 cannon
-Army of Lazio
80,000 infantry
5,000 cavalry
400 cannon
-Army of Naples
90,000 infantry
5,000 cavalry
400 cannon
-Army of Sicilia
60,000 infantry
4,000 cavalry
400 cannon
-Army of Libia
90,000 infantry
6,000 cavalry
450 cannon
-Army of Corsica
10,000 infantry
1,200 cavalry
200 cannon
-Army of Sardinia
20,000 infantry
2,000 cavalry
300 cannon
-Army of Palma
5,000 infantry
500 cavalry
100 cannon
-Order of Malta
60,000 infantry
4,000 cavalry
500 cannon
Total: 555,000 soldiers

Navy: (NLI stands for Nave di Lega di Italia)
-Southern Fleet (based at Malta)
Battleships: NLI Medici
Ironclads: NLI Lorenzo, NLI Duce, NLI Principe, NLI Cosimo
Ships of the Line: 9
Frigates: 24
-Northern Fleet (based at Palermo)
Battleships: NLI Firenze
Ironclads: NLI Bestia, NLI Lazio, NLI Papa, NLI San Giovanni
Ships of the Line: 8
Frigates: 26
-Western Fleet (based at Palma)
Battleships: NLI Roma
Ironclads: NLI Torretta, NLI Castello, NLI Schermo
Ships of the Line: 6
Frigates: 20

Back.

I'm planning to invade Spain; how do you guys wanna manage that, what with it being unowned?

Best case is another player RPing the NPC without bias towards letting the invader win. As in they actually try to win instead of letting you win. :P

Fair nuff. Anyone up for that?

Zuk, did my claim get accepted? (The one for the Songhai a few pages back)

If some one could help me out on wait spain has, I'd be happy to help out, not to much on my side of the world

I saw Candistan. You claimed that your economy was "extremely strong" which I'd prefer not be so, considering you're an African nation. At this time African nations were completely undeveloped. Unless you're a former colony, which I'd prefer if not too many people did, since there aren't really colonies yet.

Российская империя
Rossiyskaya Imperiya
Russian Empire

A Fact Book...

General

Long Form: The Russian Empire
Short Form: Russia
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Monarch: Emperor Alexei Ivanovich Mendeleyev, Alexei IV
Heir: Imperial Prince Nikolai Alexeivich Mendeleyev, to be Nikolai II
Economic Ideology: Serfdom/Socialism/Feudalism
[Though the Nobles are all Centralized under, mostly, one House, and kept in check, though otherwise Loyal]
Capitol: St. Petersburg

Population:

46,858,502 - Total

25,684,667 - Russia [Part]
3,575,439 - Lithuania
2,291,000 - Latvia
1,342,409 - Estonia
9,724,723 - Belarus
4,240,264 - Ukraine [Part]

Race/Ethnicity:

55% Russian
21% Belarussian
9% Ukrainian
7% Lithuanian
5% Latvian
3% Estonian

History:

Coming Soon

Economy: Moderate-Strong

Yea, my southernmost border I believe just about borders Kiev..

So I assume we all know what my first Military Action is going to be...

Apart from that, I'm planning on Promoting Exploration of Siberia.

What a shocking surprise!

If some one could help me out on wait spain has, I'd be happy to help out, not to much on my side of the world

Actually, to keep it simple, I'll RP it myself; don't worry, I won't go LOL INVASION and grab an auto-win.

Zukariaa;13050371']I saw Candistan. You claimed that your economy was "extremely strong" which I'd prefer not be so, considering you're an African nation. At this time African nations were completely undeveloped. Unless you're a former colony, which I'd prefer if not too many people did, since there aren't really colonies yet.

Okay, it can be changed. I'll get to that right now.
BTW, when is an IC thread or something going up?

Okay, it can be changed. I'll get to that right now.
BTW, when is an IC thread or something going up?

You make separate threads for various events, like wars or meetings or whatever.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m78/kadangadooo/africa.jpg

General:
Long Form: The Imperial Songhai Republic
Short Form: The Imperium
Government Type: Imperium
Leader: Emperor Abu Hakkar ibn-Ramaa al-Kharif (al-Kharif Family)

States:
-Lagos Imperial District (Lagos Metropolitan Area)
-Nigeria am Main (Southern Half of Nigeria)
-Greater Nigeria (Rest of Nigeria)
-Togoland (Togo)
-Benin Principality (Benin)
-Coast of Ivory (Ivory Coast)
-Ghanaland (Ghana)
-Greater Burkina (Burkina Faso and a little piece of Niger)
-Timbuktou Imperial District (Timbuktou and surrounding area)
-Maliland (The Southern parts of Mali)

Economic Ideology: Physiocratic
Capital: Lagos

Economy: Stong in Nigeria, especially the Southern end of it, but everywhere else is a bit underdeveloped aside from Timbuktou and Bamako on the Northern Fringes and a few of the capital cities on the Southern Coasts. This is viewed as okay in the eyes of the Emporer since the economy is Physiocratic. All Industry is located on the Southern Coasts, especially in the cities of Lagos, Porto Novo and Accra.

Population: 210,200,000

Salut! My current claim is over Morocco and Algeria.

As for the rest...

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/san_marino--80.jpg

General:
Long Form: The Grand States of Savitry
Short Form: Savitry
Government Type: Oligarchy
Presider: President Aldo Cirino
Economic Ideology: Planned Economy
Capital: Casablanca

Population: 67,090,391

Economy: Mild

Military: 600,000
Army: 350,000
Navy: 250,000


Any of these can be changed accordingly.

Candistan: Add yourself to the main map.
Savitry: You talked to me on IRC and were in the Draftroom so I'm inclined towards saying yes. Let me choose for sure tomorrow. I'm too tired right now to think on it.

Do we have clearance to start posting?

You've always had clearance to start posting.. in fact, I linked a thread started by Warmaster on the first post..

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538457
ATTN Lionizstan, or however you type your name, since this kind of concerns you.

the RP has started? when did that happen?

EDIT: ah i see now we are doing this by individual threads for events, hmm what should i do first

Uhm...is this dead? Kinda hope not...

I hope not as well...

Besides, who would be able to view my upcoming/delayed War with Kiev? :(