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IDS Darkheart sets sail! (P/MT)

Cazelia
02-09-2007, 20:05
The new Darkheart class super dreadnought is now for sale!

Specifications

Crew: 50,000 personnel, 10,000 marines
Type: Super dreadnought
Length: 1,691 metres
Armaments:
-9x 600mm Mark 12 guns (4 turrets)
-1,000x tomahawk cruise missiles
-200x Oerlikon 20 mm cannon
-10x phalanx CIWS
-4x F-35B VTOL fighters
-2x SH-60 helicopters
-400x M2 BMG
-10x built in warrior/3 mechs (http://techepics.com/files/battlefield_2142_airborne.jpg)
-1x high explosive/nuclear SCUD (http://www.ccds.charlotte.nc.us/History/MidEast/05/healy/components_of_a_scud.gif)
Beam: 218 metres
Depth: 148 metres
Propulsion:
-8x fusion reactors
Speed:
-20 knots (cruising speed)
-30 knots (maximum speed)
Price: 1 trillion credits
Questers
02-09-2007, 20:15
oh jesus christ please. do we have to debunk supercapitals AGAIN? :headbang:
British Londinium
02-09-2007, 20:15
Umm...wow. I bet two Iowa-classes could destroy this thing without a sweat.

But, congratulations, Cazelia, for creating a horrific cacophony of technology from the eighties and fictional video game mech fighters that barely works.
Alfegos
02-09-2007, 20:15
What? I like really big ships, as you can stick all sorts of things on them

(railguns *cough*)
[NS::::]Olmedreca
02-09-2007, 20:18
More than 2 km long and smaller guns than Yamato?
Kahanistan
02-09-2007, 20:25
The new Darkheart class super dreadnought is now for sale!

Specifications

Crew: 4,000 personnel, 1,000 marines
Type: Super dreadnought
Length: 2,143 metres
Armaments:
-12x 406mm Mark 7 guns (5 turrets)
-40x tomahawk cruise missiles
-200x Oerlikon 20 mm cannon
-10x phalanx CIWS
-4x F-35B VTOL fighters
-2x SH-60 helicopters
-400x M2 BMG
-10x built in warrior/3 mechs (http://techepics.com/files/battlefield_2142_airborne.jpg)
-1x high explosive SCUD (http://www.ccds.charlotte.nc.us/History/MidEast/05/healy/components_of_a_scud.gif)
Beam: 218 metres
Depth: 148 metres
Propulsion:
-8x fusion reactors
-12x diesel engines
Speed:
-23 knots (cruising speed)
-39 knots (maximum speed)
Price: 20 billion credits

I'm not a designer at the level of Sarzonia or Questers yet, but I see a few issues...

This thing is larger than Questers' Hood. It should have a crew of between 30,000 and 50,000. It's too lightly armed (should have over 1,000 missiles at the very least, preferably 3,000+ and should be carrying at least 600mm guns (slightly less than 24"), though smaller ones in conjunction are good. You're using two different kinds of 20mm cannon (Phalanx is 20mm.) No need for gas-guzzling diesels when you have nuclear engines. 23 knots is a good speed, but should be maximum - 39 knots will tear the ship to pieces. 20 as cruising is fine. Unless you have a super economy and one credit is something like 150 USD, your ship should cost over a trillion dollars, up to three trillion. You might also want to list the weight of it and its armour scheme.
Cazelia
02-09-2007, 21:08
Hey, be nice. It's my first warship
Granate
02-09-2007, 21:16
Hey, be nice. It's my first warship

We have to be harsh or else you won't learn.
The World Soviet Party
02-09-2007, 21:20
Cazelia, you dont have the funds to do this, heck, you dont even have that much soldiers, not to mention skilled workers.
1010102
02-09-2007, 21:37
Anything over 2000 meters will break in half from the stress placed on the metal.
Kahanistan
02-09-2007, 22:24
Anything over 2000 meters will break in half from the stress placed on the metal.

Not if they go very slow.

@Questers: "Debunking" supercapitals? Do you still use the Hood in your forces, then?
Clandonia Prime
02-09-2007, 22:25
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537232

Shamless advertising.

Interesting engines btw Cazelia...
The tokera
02-09-2007, 22:33
What? I like really big ships, as you can stick all sorts of things on them

(railguns *cough*)
Compensating for something? lol
Super dreadnought are pointless, the only reason they are ever designed is because someone wants something cool instead of practical.
Amazonian Beasts
02-09-2007, 23:07
No torpedoes, very nice, one Alfa-class submarine (and they're outdated) could take this thing down without breaking a sweat...

Y'know, Caz, I was going to help you against Greston...but I'd rather not pointlessly sacrifice my troops.
The Warmaster
02-09-2007, 23:16
OOC: Cazelia, take this over to the Draftroom (http://www.z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php). As people have pointed out, there are serious flaws with this design, and the people there will really help you get this design on track.
Questers
02-09-2007, 23:23
@Questers: "Debunking" supercapitals? Do you still use the Hood in your forces, then?

Absolutely not.