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Official Title: Βασίλειο της Ελλάδας (Kingdom of Greece)

Common Title: Ελλάδα (Greece)

Capital: Athens

Government: Constitutional Monarchy; Direct rule by the monarch, with the assistance and advice of the democratically elected Council of State. The constitution of March 1844 enshrines freedom of speech, religion and demonstration for native Greeks, though recent anti-slavery laws have created a poverty-stricken underclass.

Head of State: King Otto I

Constitution: 'Ελληνικό σύνταγμα 1844' (Greek Constitution of 1844)

Demographics:
Greece: 3,717,619
97% Greek
2% Turkish
1% Other

Macedonia: 860,102
66% Greek
25% Albanian
3% Roma
3% Turkish
2% Serbian
1% Other

Thrace: 970,441
58% Greek
22% Bulgarian
17% Turkish
2% Roma
1% Other

Albania: 733,291
97% Albanian
2% Greek
1% Other

Anatolia: 5,307,325
93% Turkish
4% Greek
2% Kurdish
1% Other

Crimea: 234,799
76% Tatar
12% Russian
7% Bulgarian
3% Ukranian
1% Greek
1% Other

Cyprus: 151,718
77% Greek
18% Turkish
3% Albanian
2% Other

Total Population: 11,975,305

Political Parties:
WIP

Economy:
Greece: 49 (Heavy industry, armaments, shipbuilding, finance, fish, agriculture)
Macedonia: 30 (Industry, steel, tobacco, agriculture)
Thrace: 34 (Industry, steel, fish, agriculture)
Albania: 24 (Industry, textiles, steel, crude oil, mining, tobacco, agriculture)
Anatolia: 52 (Textiles, mining, tobacco, fish, agriculture)
Crimea: 13 (Industry, fish, agriculture)
Cyprus: 18 (Textiles, tobacco, fish, agriculture)

Total: 200

Religion:
49% Orthodox Christian
48% Muslim
2% Catholic
1% Other

Military: 276,076 (2.4% of total population)

Ελληνικός στρατός - Hellenic Army (2.2%) 251,950 men in 220 Infantry Battalions, 60 Cavalry Regiments, 45 Artillery Batteries.
185,680 Riflemen - Τουφέκι βελόνων 'Dreyse', πρότυπο 1848 (Dreyse Needle Rifle, Model 1848)
7,260 Infantry Officers - Περίστροφο 'Walker Colt', πρότυπο 1847 (Walker Colt Revolver, Model 1847)

50,640 Cavalrymen - Κοντό τουφέκι βελόνων 'Dreyse', πρότυπο 1855 (Dreyse Short Needle Rifle, Model 1855)
1,980 Cavalry Officers - Περίστροφο 'Walker Colt', πρότυπο 1847 (Walker Colt Revolver, Model 1847)

6,120 Artillerymen - 360 cannon, sixteen men per piece. Κοντό τουφέκι βελόνων 'Dreyse', πρότυπο 1855 (Dreyse Short Needle Rifle, Model 1855)
270 Artillery Officers - Περίστροφο 'Walker Colt', πρότυπο 1847 (Walker Colt Revolver, Model 1847)

Ελληνικό ναυτικό - Hellenic Navy (0.2%) 24,126 men.
22,920 Ratings and Marines
1,206 Officers

The Empire of Ethiopia wishes to establish diplomatic relations with the Kingdom of Greece.

Greece welcomes the initiation of cordial diplomatic relations with the Empire of Ethiopia.

Greece welcomes the initiation of cordial diplomatic relations with the Empire of Ethiopia.

OOC: thanks, were you the one that messaged on my factbook?

Are you sure you don't want more land? You have so little of it your IP might start off in bankrucpy. If not it will certainly be in depression.

OOC: Antigonal: If you believe that a country could be classed as bankrupt simply because it is not as large as all the others, then I must opine that either your terminology or system are flawed.

A country may be small in comparison to others, while still comfortably rich, industrialised or equipped in local terms.

New Brittonia: Um. Nope.

OOC: Antigonal: If you believe that a country could be classed as bankrupt simply because it is not as large as all the others, then I must opine that either your terminology or system are flawed.

A country may be small in comparison to others, while still comfortably rich, industrialised or equipped in local terms.

New Brittonia: Um. Nope.

It just doesn't seem fair to me that a nation with a miniscule economy is would be allowed to take on massive empires with a strong one. There has to be some level of comparrison. Why don't you want more land?

OOC: The world is made of both large and small nations. The large prey upon the small with ease, and the small must use every mote of guile and cunning, skill and persistence that they possess in order to succeed.

This also means they are more rewarding to play as, when it goes your way.

OOC: The world is made of both large and small nations. The large prey upon the small with ease, and the small must use every mote of guile and cunning, skill and persistence that they possess in order to succeed.

This also means they are more rewarding to play as, when it goes your way.

I'll tip the odds in your favor anyway I can. I'll give you a lot of favorable events (see Events Thread) and try to give you a little extra IP than what is probably fair.

OOC: If I were in a better position then I'd politely decline, but hey. Gift horse. Mouth. La la.

Okay, as long as you understand your IP will be low. I'm sorry but if you're gonna play on the international stage you gotta live up to the same standards as the big boys.

Do you want Macedonia and/or Albania? The last guy who played the Balkans had them along with Thrace and Greece.

I've got them listed. When I first said that I'd like to use Greece, I said all the orange territory west of the Bosphorus Strait - the strait connecting the Black Sea to the Mediterranean. That included Albania and Macedonia.

And not to forget, a lot of western Turkey.

Here's your IP (repost it above):

Albania: 24
Macedonia: 30
Greece: 49
Thrace: 34
Western Anatolia: 52

TOTAL IP: 169

(this means you are currently in a depression, apart from your free railroad you can't build railroads or canals and you can't make colonies, build fleets, or new troops)

Anatolia, not Ionia. Ionia refers to a province, Anatolia is everything east of the Bosphorus Strait. I don't claim it all, but certainly the coastal area.

I really wish I knew how you calculated that.

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you, there is no way to mathematically do it other than using the deepest, darkest depths of my mind. If you could find a good, concrete way that I approve, we could see about employing it.

Okay, here's the rest of your IP (you don't need to accept Cyprus, but I gave it's IP anyway):

Crimea - 13
Cyprus - 18

TOTAL IP (added to original 169) - 200 (which means you are juuuust in depression).

I really don't understand why you keep saying that I'm in a depression. Per person, I actually have a greater IP than you.

The French Empire has a population of 54,409,280, and an IP of 550. This means you have about 5 IP per million people.

The Kingdom of Greece has a population of 11,975,305, and an IP of 200. This means I have 16.6 IP per million people.

If one of us is in a depression, it certainly isn't me.

I really don't understand why you keep saying that I'm in a depression. Per person, I actually have a greater IP than you.

The French Empire has a population of 54,409,280, and an IP of 550. This means you have about 5 IP per million people.

The Kingdom of Greece has a population of 11,975,305, and an IP of 200. This means I have 16.6 IP per million people.

If one of us is in a depression, it certainly isn't me.

That's a very interesting method, I like it. I'm wondering if it would be too hard to reformat the game right now to do it like that.

But at the same time your Industrial Potential isn't the wealth of your citizens, it's the wealth of your goverment and it's ability to build industry and compete on the world stage.

Ant although technically TME can't build his own ships can he purchase them from other powers?

Ant although technically TME can't build his own ships can he purchase them from other powers?

Maybe in small numbers, I'd have to thing about that. But if he gets one more IP point he's out of depression.

Looks like there's only one way to do that.

*Draws up logistical plans for transport of 150,000 men to southern Serbia*

Maybe in small numbers, I'd have to thing about that. But if he gets one more IP point he's out of depression.

Maybe Greece would like to buy HMS Gladstone a 110 gun warship of the line? Dirt cheap, steam power, muzzle loaders, the full works!

Oh my. I am liking that.

We can negotiate the purchase once this Balkan stuff kicks off proper.

Oh my. I am liking that.

We can negotiate the purchase once this Balkan stuff kicks off proper.

No problem, Britain would also like to enquire as to your currant stock of Frigates?

Abysmal.

Abysmal.

:D Then we have a lot to talk about... :D

Michiyo, you still plannin' on invading Serbia? We did all that partition stuff and all and I was just wondering.

we the small orthodox nation of Nikovakkia would like to extend military help if needed to your nation.
we are a small nation of 5 million people but we are prepared to give you what we have.

thank you

Nikovakkian Leader.
Nikos.

we the small orthodox nation of Nikovakkia would like to extend military help if needed to your nation.
we are a small nation of 5 million people but we are prepared to give you what we have.

thank you

Nikovakkian Leader.
Nikos.

Sorry Nikkovakia, this is a closed RPG set in 1860.

Michiyo, you still plannin' on invading Serbia? We did all that partition stuff and all and I was just wondering.

Yeah, I was kinda waiting for the diplo with Toop to finish, but it looks like that's going to take a long time. I'll see if I can make a draft today.